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Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. It is a frigid here in

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Speaker 2: is even colder than that because whips across here as

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Speaker 2: odin I believe for zeus, I should say, you know,

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Speaker 2: let's loose on the winds.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, Yeah, Lion High again was on when I came in,

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Speaker 3: so I was in a good mood. Didn't matter I was.

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Speaker 3: That was under the Aussie. Yeah, there you go. Love

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Speaker 3: the DV being on the background coming.

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Speaker 2: It's usually something a CD in Yes, but Matt Lancier

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Speaker 2: line has come out with his Yeah, he's roasting of

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Speaker 2: all the prospects from this year's combine. Uh starting to

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Speaker 2: populate some of the grading systems and things that the

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Speaker 2: NFL that they use on NFL at dot com to

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Speaker 2: differentiate these guys. And I'm looking here at the defensive.

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Speaker 3: Real quick, folks. I mean, Lance does like every player

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Speaker 3: in the draft. He has a write up on and

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Speaker 3: you can go back and search and find his write

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Speaker 3: ups from five years ago. Still I still do it sometimes.

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Speaker 3: I do, like, you know, accurate heights and things like

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Speaker 3: that that don't change. Or Steelers signed this guy and

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Speaker 3: know much about what was his profile coming out of

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Speaker 3: college blah blah blah. And his dad was a Steelers

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Speaker 3: oh line coach and he was also the Brown Zoe

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Speaker 3: knows the stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he does this all for NFL dot com.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking here at some of the positions.

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Speaker 3: I can't help myself that it's a funny dude, And

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Speaker 3: I'm fine. I'm friends with him on Facebook. And like

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Speaker 3: when his kids were young, they were like this big.

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Speaker 2: So if you want Google Lancier line rankings NFL dot com, right.

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Speaker 3: I just retweeted it. Yeah, And.

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Speaker 2: They have the grading system here on NFL dot com

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Speaker 2: And basically, if you're six tozer or above, you're a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the only section I clicked on other than

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Speaker 2: Right now as of this as we sit here at

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Speaker 3: Eighteenth, and these aren't final evaluations by Lance, but he's

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Speaker 3: trying to get every Combine guy up there with something

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Speaker 2: And he hasn't gotten everybody done yet, right right, right,

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Speaker 3: Don't try to I'm not going to try to tell

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Walter Nolan his top ranked tackle, and honestly it's

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Speaker 3: I don't think Nolan's getting the twenty one. I just don't.

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Speaker 2: He didn't get there. He didn't get the twenty one

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Speaker 2: He drew a six point seven to one grade. That's

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Speaker 2: The guys that he puts at six of six four

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Speaker 3: Okay, there is again. I don't even remember the system,

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Speaker 2: Then it's Derek Harmon out of Oregon third, Kenneth Grant fourth.

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Speaker 3: I not concerned, but I think when it's all said

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Speaker 2: After those guys, After Collins and Turner, he has Cam

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Speaker 3: Time, all the time. He's just wreck stuff. He just

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Speaker 3: the twenty two snaps he's out there aren't fun. No,

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Speaker 3: Every snap, every snap years out. Yeah yeah, and you

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's that's Braden Fisk.

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Speaker 2: It's the same thing, like they just go just wind

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Speaker 3: As I say, it might the strength of this class.

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Speaker 2: There's so many dudes right right right then you're looking

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Speaker 2: Jamari Callball out of Oregon six one nine.

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Speaker 3: He's interesting too.

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Speaker 2: He has the perfect body type. Yeah as a you

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Speaker 2: Vernon Broughton defensive tackle out of Texas a six to one. Oh.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how they do it. And he is

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Speaker 3: Not a lot of pass rush with Phillips, but I

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Speaker 2: And those guys, if you're under six, that, especially the

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Speaker 2: Then Tess Johnson out of Oregon at six two three,

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Speaker 2: Genty is the number one guy at seven one five.

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Speaker 3: Really doesn't usually.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh, yeah, I think so, right, Yeah, is that good? Yeah? Right?

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Speaker 3: but there's a couple of land mines for him. Yeah, Denver, Chicago, Dallas.

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Speaker 2: Put it this way, So Lance also does comps for

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Speaker 3: Of course he was. He was the second pick in

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Speaker 2: Yes, I would. I would take Ladanian Tomlinson picked.

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Speaker 3: Even if running backs don't matter and you're not supposed

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Speaker 2: Uh his, I can rate a bank as Travion Backus

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Speaker 3: I know every time I listen to McShay or DJ,

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Speaker 3: Then ever, explosives are harder to come by than they

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Speaker 3: it's a nice way to go.

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Speaker 2: Dylan Samson is his three. He has some explosive trade too, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Omarion Hampton is his four.

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Speaker 3: He's clearly my two.

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Speaker 2: Quinn Shawn Jenkins is his five.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Then you're looking at Bachelle Tooton at a Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a real steal.

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Speaker 2: He's smaller than I thought. Caleb Johnson that where's Johnson?

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Speaker 2: Six ' two three. Damian Martinez out of Miami is

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Speaker 3: It was last week you mentioned I'll have Steelers stuff

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Speaker 2: Jordan James out of Oregon a six one six.

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Speaker 2: Ollie Gordon out of Oklahoma, state of six one five,

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Speaker 2: Trevor Atn out of Georgia six one five, Woody Marks

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Speaker 3: So I bet you named eighteen names there with a

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Speaker 2: Still hasn't gotten the guys like Laquinn Allen. Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: other guys on there. They're going to jump onto Richard Smith. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think we've mentioned that mel Kiper has

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Speaker 2: thirty five running backs with a draftable grade. Now six

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Speaker 3: If he's got eighteen with a top three or four

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, co it's not right. Yeah, I mean, it's just

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Speaker 2: the reality of it.

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Speaker 3: How many teams really have running back needs?

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Speaker 2: What other position? Well, let's look at quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Cam Ward a six three nine.

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Speaker 3: It's not a stellar grade.

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Speaker 2: Not a stellar grader number might go number one overall.

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Speaker 3: He puts no position value on it. That's why Gent's

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Speaker 3: way ahead of Ward. Gent's better at what he does

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Speaker 2: Shador Sanders is a six ' three oh, and.

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Speaker 3: You say he was a sixty three nine Ward. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: they're closer. I thought. Uh.

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Speaker 2: He has Jackson Dart and Quinn Ewers both at six

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Speaker 3: Take more time too. You need to watch extra.

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Speaker 2: This is a huge undertake.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine writing a four hundred players? And the

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Speaker 3: other insane thing he does is if people that are

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Speaker 2: You know, looking at the cornerback position, he is Travis

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Speaker 2: Hunter at a six eight nine. That's usually where about

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and Hunters in that conversation, he might

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Speaker 3: go one overall Heisman winner.

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Speaker 2: You know he is a higher grade on GENTI yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Will Johnson's a six seven ozer out of Michigan. A

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Speaker 2: Zerie A Thomas a six three eight.

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Speaker 3: I get it. I noticed today that you had him

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Speaker 2: He's gize he played.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, you can play man right, Yeah. John A.

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Speaker 2: Barron a six three five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, our boy might pursued to had him going real

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Speaker 2: Maxwell Harriston is six two nine out of Kentucky, like

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Speaker 2: we drafted him yesterday. Chavon Revel is a six '

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Speaker 3: I wonder how Lance does it with like a Revel

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Speaker 3: what he saw on tape.

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Speaker 2: It would be something if we were able to get

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Speaker 2: him on try to track him down. Yeah, you'd ask him.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to dig more into the.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the process and how many players per date does

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Speaker 3: he get done? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Darrian Porter out of Iowa State a six two to one,

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Speaker 2: Benjamin Morrison out of Notre Dame of six two oh.

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Speaker 2: As is Jacob Parrish at a K state.

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Speaker 3: What's Parish's height and weights on there?

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Speaker 2: He's like six to one.

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Speaker 3: I thought he's she fits.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's got some length to him. Uh no,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay has screwed up five yeah, yeah, Wait.

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Speaker 2: For this reload here where we at Benjamin Morrison, Dorian

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Speaker 2: Denzel Burke out of Ohio State, Caleb Ransaw and Kobe

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Speaker 2: then Quincy Riley out of Louisville a six to one.

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Speaker 3: Oh. Okay, I had a good senior Bowl and it

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Speaker 3: seems to be coming on pretty sure.

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Speaker 2: If you're you're getting a six to oh or better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Being viewed as a potential starter down the road.

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Speaker 3: I mean, these few position groups that you picked that

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Speaker 2: Not bad.

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Speaker 3: Wide receiver is not where it usually is, but it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's never going to be awful again. This is

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Speaker 2: still still. We'll talk a lot about this and all

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Speaker 2: those kind of things when we get to the get

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Speaker 2: to the combine move with live results, top performers, all

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Speaker 3: Guy you thought was six three six one and a half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's just a fun day because there's

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Speaker 2: names on here that I haven't gotten to yet in

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Speaker 3: And you know, I'll just do some homework.

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Speaker 2: I'll pick I'll pick up three or four guys at

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Speaker 2: night and just go watch tape. Go watch tape, go

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Speaker 2: watch tape. There there's a new guy. I gotta go

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Speaker 2: watch tape.

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Speaker 3: There nothing about that guy? Yeah, fit the bill, right, because.

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Speaker 2: I don't get to do that during college football season,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyways, No, that's cool.

441
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So go check out land Zeer lines rankings on

442
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Speaker 2: find on NFL dot com.

443
00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,439
Speaker 3: Better off just googling, Yeah, just follow one of us why,

444
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Speaker 3: I retweeted, I think he did too. Or go find

445
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Speaker 3: lands right? Yeah? Like to Google?

446
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is a Google. Or not to Google's

447
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Speaker 2: a question. Anyways, He's Matt Williamson. I am Dale LOLLI.

448
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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network,

449
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Speaker 2: Matt and I'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

451
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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back Guy and Dale Lolly. He is the Matt

454
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Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt looking here at that. Rob Rang has

455
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Speaker 2: his rankings out on a running back class on Fox Sports.

456
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Speaker 3: I say, where's rob Ward down here?

457
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 2: He's with Fox. He also has Ashton genty number one.

458
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 3: The no brainer. It just depends where he goes. But

459
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:21,919
Speaker 3: we all know the first back.

460
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Speaker 2: Off the boards and said he is a top ten talent.

461
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Speaker 3: Easy. Yeah.

462
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 2: I don't know that he's going to go top ten though,

463
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Speaker 2: That's the thing.

464
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Speaker 3: So that bugs me a little. I'muck even Rob a

465
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Speaker 3: hard time. Rob's does good work and he has for

466
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Speaker 3: a long time. But like when Beijeon came out, people

467
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Speaker 3: are like, oh, yeah, he's a top ten talent. No,

468
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,640
Speaker 3: he's like Lance, he's the best talent in the draft.

469
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Speaker 3: This doesn't matter where he goes, you know. I mean

470
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Speaker 3: he's the best player in the draft. Is when are

471
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Speaker 3: you going to take him?

472
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Speaker 2: He has Omari and Hampton number two.

473
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Speaker 3: He'll be my two too. Yeah. I might do my

474
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 3: running backs tonight. I think he's going to be my two.

475
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Speaker 3: He's his home run speed too.

476
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Speaker 2: You know, has him as a top fifty player. His

477
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Speaker 2: comp on him is Jonathan Taylor.

478
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 3: M I think he's a better receiver than Taylor. I

479
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 3: don't know if he's a better runner than Taylor, but

480
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,360
Speaker 3: that's not bad. I mean he's big, strong, fast. Yeah.

481
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 2: Uh. He has greeted his third guy, Caleb Johnson out

482
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 2: of Iowa, again a top fifty guy. His comp is

483
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Speaker 2: Nauseie Harris.

484
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Speaker 3: I don't agree with that for the one reason just

485
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Speaker 3: kind of nerd out. I was about to say Caleb

486
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Speaker 3: Johnson is a noticeably better outside zone Arthur Smith type runner,

487
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Speaker 3: and then you mentioned a Steeler back that I don't

488
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Speaker 3: think is necessarily a good Arthur Smith outside zone runner.

489
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Speaker 3: You know, I don't think there's I think he's just

490
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Speaker 3: at the size, size, strength. Yeah, a tough guy to

491
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Speaker 3: put on the ground, absolutely right. But I think in

492
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Speaker 3: terms of.

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Speaker 2: Play style no, yeah, uh quit you'll know him as

494
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Speaker 2: a receiver, haven't not much?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not much.

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Speaker 2: He had one hundred and eighty eight receiving yards capable period.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of why I asked stakes will be

499
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Speaker 3: my next.

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Speaker 2: He has Quid Shaw Jenkins four.

501
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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm leaning towards Henderson at.

502
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Speaker 2: Four, but his comp on Judkins is Joe Mixon. He

503
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Speaker 2: has him as a second round guy in Joe Mixon.

504
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Speaker 3: Okay, Mixon was a pretty acomplished receiver. Yeah, especially coming

505
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Speaker 3: out of school.

506
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Speaker 2: Judkins caught the ball.

507
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Speaker 3: He's not terrible, right, I mean, not necessarily his role

508
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Speaker 3: in the Ohio state.

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Speaker 2: Uh. He has Travon Henderson five. Yeah, although his comp

510
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Speaker 2: on Travion Henderson is Josh Jacobs and I don't see

511
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Speaker 2: that at all. Not.

512
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Speaker 3: I think they're very different. I mean, Henderson's fat, not

513
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Speaker 3: that Jacob's slow, but Henderson's more of a big play

514
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 3: Pollard's not than the right one. But there's more every

515
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Speaker 3: downish than Pollard. But I'm terrible at comps.

516
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't do them well either. But I know

517
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Speaker 2: when I see one of them.

518
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Speaker 3: I like it or when I hate when I like,

519
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 3: I notice it.

520
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't want to be if I watched

521
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Speaker 2: tape on somebody kind of reminds me of this guy.

522
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I never want to be in charge

523
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Speaker 3: of give me your comps on these guys. Uh.

524
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Speaker 2: Here's Dylan Samson of Tennessee six that seems to be

525
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: not far off. Yeah, I don't think he's for the

526
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Speaker 2: Steelers though. Now five two one's camp for him as

527
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Speaker 2: James Cook, and I do see that, Yeah, I.

528
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Speaker 3: Could see that. Yeah, I mean Cook's turned into a

529
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Speaker 3: really good player of the last year. But that was

530
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Speaker 3: kind of what he looked like coming out of Georgia.

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Speaker 2: He has Baseell Teuton number seven out of Virginia Tech.

532
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Speaker 3: His car to tackle.

533
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Speaker 2: His comp is Kenneth Walker.

534
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Speaker 3: That's not bad. I mean Walker was better. I would yeah, I.

535
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Speaker 2: Would like tooting more if he didn't put the ball

536
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Speaker 2: in the.

537
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Speaker 3: Ground, that's a big concern. Yeah, I mean I would

538
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Speaker 3: have to really like if he was in my area

539
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Speaker 3: and I was area scoured, I would study every fumble

540
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 3: window And why, you know, is it just the bad luck?

541
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Speaker 3: Is he terrible at it or I mean, do we

542
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Speaker 3: have to correct this or what? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Uh he has camp scatter bout eight mm hmm. And

544
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 2: again the compass nagee Harris.

545
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Speaker 3: I kind of get that. I mean he hates being tackled.

546
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Speaker 3: I forget who I was talking to. That's a good

547
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: way to put it, hates it. I would have Scott

548
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 3: a bow higher than that. And I know he's a

549
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: fan favorite, but I do know some people in the

550
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 3: league are concerned about his long term to rebellity. Yeah.

551
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: I mean he's taken a beating and runs into things. Really,

552
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 3: but you also know he catches the ball well, oh

553
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 3: do way better receiver than people give him credit for.

554
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Speaker 2: You. His favorites are the rest of the guys he likes.

555
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,239
Speaker 2: Call mcgonaughay out of Rutgers. I haven't done a lot

556
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: on him yet, Jordan James out of Oregon. Yeah like James, Yeah,

557
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: Devin Neil out of Kansas, Tars Brooks out of Texas Tech,

558
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 2: and Woody Marks out of usc Okay.

559
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Speaker 3: I just know that Marx's name. I don't know a

560
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: ton about him either. Yeah, there's definitely some other names

561
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Speaker 3: that he hasn't brought up. I mean the Miami dude.

562
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Speaker 3: Martinez would be in my top ten, especially just for

563
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Speaker 3: a steeler a lens.

564
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean, it's a good It's.

565
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Speaker 3: Hard to narrow him down. Yeah, I mean we're gonna

566
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Speaker 3: do five for our triple take. That's not hard because

567
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Speaker 3: I think there's five that are kind of at the

568
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Speaker 3: top his same five and whatever, or but narrowing at

569
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Speaker 3: the ten would be tough.

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Speaker 2: And here's so again. People have asked a lot, you know,

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Speaker 2: would you take Ashton Genty if he's there? Yes, we've

572
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: also been asked would you trade up for Ashton Genty?

573
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 3: That answer is no.

574
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Speaker 2: For that's a no, I'm not I'm not giving.

575
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Speaker 3: I might move up two spots and give up a

576
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Speaker 3: fourth or fifth or something, but I'm not giving up

577
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 3: two real picks for no.

578
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Speaker 2: But I don't know that after that that I'm real

579
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: interested in taking one of these guys in the first round.

580
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Speaker 2: If I don't get one, I.

581
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Speaker 3: Think was it yet? I get our mocks mixed up?

582
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 3: But yesterday we did. We've seen trade down.

583
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we traded out of the first round and we had.

584
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: All these other picks that I knew we were going

585
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: to get. The tackles and receivers and stuff like that,

586
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Speaker 3: and then we took Hampton earlier. Second. Yeah, you know, okay,

587
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and that I had no

588
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 3: problems with I knew the other needs would be met.

589
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Speaker 2: Which is something that is there. I know, in reality

590
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Speaker 2: there's a difference between being the twenty sixth pick in

591
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Speaker 2: the draft and being the thirty fourth. But the reality is,

592
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Speaker 2: but the reality is, there's no, there's no differ, no,

593
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Speaker 2: in terms of the real grades.

594
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Speaker 3: I mean, if this was an NFL war room and

595
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: you're looking at the horizontal board and the vertical board,

596
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 3: they're probably right in the same area, and ten teams

597
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 3: might have that guy higher vertically.

598
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: You know, that was a great spot for YouTube, by

599
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: the way, but doing this, yeah, you're looking at there

600
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 2: radio that doesn't translate, right, but YouTube, So go watch

601
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 2: the YouTube show channel and you'll get.

602
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 3: To see board right over there and not let show anybody. Yeah, absolutely,

603
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 3: do the horizontal We get the bang that's out.

604
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 2: But I mean, you don't just take the position just

605
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 2: to take the position.

606
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: Especially if we know that they're so deep. Yeah, I

607
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 3: mean it's you're going to find one.

608
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: You like, and do you let me ask you this

609
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: do you think that the NFL give them what happened

610
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: this season with running backs blowing up this year, starts

611
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Speaker 2: to value them differently in the draft.

612
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, it's so easy to part

613
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 3: to point to Henry in Barkley and no one puts you,

614
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: like nobody puts Josh Jacobs in that category either. But

615
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 3: he changed teams and was really really good too, you know,

616
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 3: but they were all really really good before that. Henry

617
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 3: did a lot of good stuff on a dreadful Titans

618
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: team two years ago. Barkley was phenomenal on a horrible

619
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: Giants team his whole career, and then you put them

620
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 3: in great situations and they do better. I'm not sure

621
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: what we learned there, you know what I mean, To

622
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 3: be honest, this isn't what you asked. But like Nausey

623
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 3: hitting free agency, I don't think he's gonna be thrilled

624
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: with this contract because.

625
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: Of all the names, because, yeah, the guys that are available, right, I.

626
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 3: Mean, if you're gonna get a Hall of Fame Barkley,

627
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 3: Henry dude, and you put them on an already good team,

628
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: maybe the Bills, or I mean teams that are contenders,

629
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 3: the Chiefs might look at it like we never spent

630
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: on back, but maybe we will this year. And the

631
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: way I describe it as the cherry on top the

632
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: Sunday's already built. You know that's not gonna be my

633
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 3: first piece of the Sunday.

634
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: I could see it for nausey, in particular in a

635
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: place like the Raiders, who are looking to change the culture.

636
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I do think that he brings up suitors.

637
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: He brings a toughness and a mentality to your to

638
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: your to your room, to your team.

639
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 3: You know, I bet Harbaugh likes him with the Chargers,

640
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 3: you know. I mean there's gonna be teams that want

641
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 3: to and I'm sure Pete Carroll would like them, you know,

642
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 3: no doubt. But those teams need a lot of other

643
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: stuff too. I mean, well then, and that might be

644
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: one of the twelve million That.

645
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: Might be why they dip into the free agent market

646
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: as opposed to, well, we're going to try to draft

647
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: a young running back here and.

648
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: Get the bird in the hand right now. And you know,

649
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 3: the Raiders make a lot of sense. Do you think

650
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 3: we've talked about maybe the Bears think he's David Montgomery

651
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 3: and they draft give yeah, right, right.

652
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, We've talked about this before. The Steelers seem

653
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: to have a certain style or certain size of back

654
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: that they like, and it seems like there's some of

655
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: these guys if they had their choice, right and they

656
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: do and they do right right. You know, Willie Parker

657
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: was an undrafted guy. They didn't draft. He fell from

658
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: the Scott He felt Scott he was free. Yeah, you're right,

659
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: So you take that. I think people misunderstand or don't understand.

660
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: I should say Jaylem Warren in today's NFL is a bigger.

661
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: Back, is a bigger back, and he also fell out

662
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: of scot Yeah, like I'm much saying they were twenty pounds, right,

663
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: I mean you're over two fifteen. I think you're a

664
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: big back. Yeah, I mean you're probably in the top

665
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: half of starting weights. And not to mention like BM,

666
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 3: I like his body. I mean he's he's put together,

667
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: his legs are yeah. Yeah, tackle breaking and physicality is

668
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: high on their list. I mean, there's no doubt about that.

669
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: That's why I think like Martinez and Scatobow will be desirable.

670
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, and genty he almost he's

671
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: kind of fits in of that mold is everything. He's

672
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: five nine two fifteen. Yeah, he's not a small back,

673
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: not at all.

674
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 3: I mean he's with Danian Tomlinson like, yeah, I mean right,

675
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: I mean he can jump cut, he can catch just

676
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: tons of yards after the catch, he can break the

677
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 3: home run. The only slight negative I've heard on him

678
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: is pass protection. So what I mean, he's gonna if

679
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: he's on the field, I want him get in the

680
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: ball or running routes. Yeah, And he's because he's got

681
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: shorter arms and sometimes you know, two hundred t. J.

682
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: Watt might run.

683
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: Through you know, of course it's gonna run through a

684
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: lot of guys, right right, right, you know the long

685
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: edge guys. Yeah, Hampton is two hundred and twenty pounds.

686
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 3: He's a bigger back. He's a bigger back, big too. Yeah.

687
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 3: Is he five eleven ish six foot Yeah? I thought

688
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: he would be under that when it's all sudden.

689
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

690
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson two hundred and twenty five pounds, he's a

691
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: big back. Quinn Shawn Jenkins at five eleven two nineteen

692
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: is a big back.

693
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: By These guys got thighs and thickness and big butts,

694
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: and you know.

695
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: Some of the other guys on the lines, I mean

696
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: scatter bows. He's as a big bat, a big back

697
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: five ten, two twenty five. Yeah, it's a big back.

698
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: And I mentioned BMI body mass index. That's big with

699
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: running backs too, like Maurice Strones. Drew was kind of

700
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: a big back even though he's this short. I mean

701
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 3: he was round, you know, I mean, there's it's not

702
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: fun tackling him.

703
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: Devin Neil at five eleven two twenty big back.

704
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: If he plays it as big as some of these

705
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: other guys.

706
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't. Yeah, but some of that's the system

707
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: that he played as well.

708
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and Taj I don't dislike him, but he's

709
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: not a banger. Banger TOAJ Brooks out of Texas stack

710
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: five nine, two twenty nine, that's a big back, Yeah,

711
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: it is. Martinez is big.

712
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: Martinez a big bat.

713
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: I think he's over two thirty. Yeah, I mean the combine.

714
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: Maybe he'll come in at two twenty five because he's

715
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 3: gonna run.

716
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: And that would be great. Maybe maybe teams looking and

717
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: go that's the way we want you. That's what happened

718
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: with Bell. Yeah, with Leveon Bell. Leveyon Bell played over

719
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: to forty in Michigan State. At Michigan State, people said, well,

720
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: he didn't look like it at Michigan State, Yeah, because

721
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: they wanted them playing a two hundred and forty plus.

722
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: Pounds plugish in the Big Ten.

723
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: And you know, right, he played his rookie year about

724
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: two and he kept losing weight as he went on and.

725
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: Got better and better.

726
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: He got better and better and better, he got quicker.

727
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, all that division was there at forty, but

728
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: he wasn't.

729
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: Right.

730
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

731
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: So there's some of that that goes on as well

732
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: with these guys when you draft him, and and that's

733
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: some of the stuff that goes on at the combine.

734
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: You know, teams might be like talking when they sit

735
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: down and talk to a guy, what would you feel

736
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: about playing instead of playing at two thirty five, how

737
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: about playing at two twenty five? Do you think you

738
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: could You think you could do that? Oh yeah, I

739
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: could do that?

740
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they never say no. But they also played

741
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: tricks with their weight at the combine too. But then

742
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: you call the strength and conditioning coach at Iowa and well,

743
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: what did he play at you know, or you have

744
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: a buddy that was the running back coach or whatever too,

745
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: you can find these things out.

746
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, just because a guy is listed at one thing.

747
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: I remember, you know, all the having arguments with John

748
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: Steigerwald on social media back in the day because he

749
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: was tweeting. You know, Levy on Bell lost all this

750
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: weight from his rookie year to now he's now playing

751
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: it two twenty five. I'm like, John, he played at

752
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: two thirty as a rookie. I know this for a fact.

753
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: He lost a lot of weight from Michigan State to

754
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: year two, right, you know in the Steelers, but not necessarily.

755
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 2: Year it wasn't all on one and one fell swooping.

756
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: He looks like a completely different back now. I'm like, no,

757
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: he looked like that last year. He's just continued to

758
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: lose because he feels even quicker. He didn't play it

759
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: two forty as a rookie.

760
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 3: He just did. And frankly, it would worry me if

761
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: you lost. If you were a back and you lost

762
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: twenty pounds in one year, like that just changes your

763
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 3: whole way of playing the game and your ability to

764
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: handle contact.

765
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: Or it's almost like the Lamar right, Lamar Jackson. I

766
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: think he said what he lose like ten to fifteen pounds.

767
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: Which for him is a wiry guy. Is a big deal,

768
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: A big deal, right, And he actually added it and

769
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: then he lost it again last year because he thought

770
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: he was slow last year.

771
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he wanted to have there.

772
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: He was going to be a body. Yeah, he was

773
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: going to be a in twenty twenty three. He won

774
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 3: the MVP in twenty twenty three. He was heavier because

775
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: he was you know, Monkin comes in, They're not going

776
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: to run as much and do more pocket stuff. And

777
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: he became a much better passer, but by his standards,

778
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: which are off the charts compared to everybody else, he

779
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: couldn't get the sea gap as quick as he used

780
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 3: to or starting stops.

781
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm a I'm done with that experiment. You know,

782
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: makes sense absolutely. Anyways, let's get to a break. He

783
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

784
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt

785
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 2: and I will be back with more right after this.

786
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 3: At least.

787
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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

788
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

789
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation.

790
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: Radio and welcome back. I'm Dale LOLLI. He is the

791
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt wanted to get to this one here.

792
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: Bill Barmwell put together a list of seventeen wide receivers

793
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 2: available in free agency.

794
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: I've been giving me a lot of thought. I did

795
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 3: a side podcast on it yesterday, and there's some names

796
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: I brushed off that I might be a little more

797
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: interested in. And there's some names that aren't even on there.

798
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: I don't think Slayton's on that list, and I mean

799
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: he has pulled out seventeen to kind of talk.

800
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: About trade candidates. He lists Tyreek Hill. Yeah, there's a

801
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: lot involved in that. There's a lot. It's expensive.

802
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 3: It's expensive. It's probably not the route I would take,

803
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 3: but I understand it.

804
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel, I think he's going to get.

805
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 3: Cut eventually though, But then you're competing with thirty other teams,

806
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 3: you know, want to go right right?

807
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: DeVante Adams is a cut candidate.

808
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm very high on that. I get the impression

809
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: he wants to go with Rogers or the West Coast,

810
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: but who knows.

811
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: Christian Kirk.

812
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 3: To me, that's the most logical, not pie in the

813
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: sky conversation. He doesn't have godwear. He doesn't have Higgins

814
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: on here either, But yeah, I don't think it's going

815
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 3: to be run anywhere you go anywhere.

816
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: So on the message board today and the last couple

817
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 2: of times we've mentioned Christian Kirk, people have balked this way,

818
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: They've already gone this old guy, right, he's not that old.

819
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: He's twenty eight.

820
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, say he's in his prime. He's younger than Debo

821
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 3: and Cup and he's yeah right, he is not an

822
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 3: old receiver. And he's coming off a broken bone. I'm

823
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 3: not worry about the injury or any of this. Yeah,

824
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: I don't think he'd cost you a ton. He makes

825
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 3: you better, right, makes you a better team. It's better

826
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: than what you have. He's better than Cooper Cup. He

827
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: is better than Cooper Cup h right now. And I'd

828
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 3: consider Cup at the right price, but it'd be a

829
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 3: cheap price.

830
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 2: It will be a cheap price because he hasn't shown

831
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: he can stay healthy. He's been when he's played, he's

832
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 2: been fine.

833
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: Yes, but it's like twelve games a year.

834
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: But he's also thirty two. He's not going to get

835
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: better in terms of the injury stuff. No. Uh. He

836
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: also has Tyler Lockett on this list. He will also

837
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: be thirty two.

838
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: If it were Wilson not Fields, then he wants to

839
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: play for very very little. I'd think about it, but

840
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 3: he's small and they already have small guys slot and

841
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 3: he's I mean slot only. Yeah, and his best days

842
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 3: are clearly behind him. Yeah, he had a really good

843
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 3: career though.

844
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five free agents, this is the old man club.

845
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 2: This is thirty three year old Keenan Allen. I'm not interested.

846
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 3: I said the same thing, but I was thinking about

847
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: on the way here. Surprisingly, I didn't know we're gonna

848
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 3: have this conversation. I'm like, would you consider six million

849
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 3: for one year? Move the chains get open, big slot professional,

850
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 3: a lot of the cup stuff we talked about. He

851
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: might be better than cups. Still, I don't know what

852
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: he caught probably is, yeah, but I don't what's what's

853
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 3: his value? I mean, I wonder he's never been on

854
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: the open market really right, And they inherited, the Chargers

855
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: had to dump his contract, so they gave him away. Basically,

856
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna have a real robust market. Yeah,

857
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: I don't know. If you're a week into free agency,

858
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 3: and he said I'll play one year, six million, I'd

859
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 3: think about it.

860
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: Marquise Brown too little, Yeah.

861
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: And he's gonna be he'sna make money.

862
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: He's also he's the same age as Christian Kirk. They're

863
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 2: both twenty. You're gonna be twenty eight entering the twenty

864
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: twenty five.

865
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: They the same draft class too. Yeah, yeah, i'd rather ocur.

866
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 2: Nobody thinks of Marquis Brown is an old guy though.

867
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: No, No, I don't think he's bad either. No, I

868
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 3: just don't think that he's for the Steelers.

869
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks he'll be thirty one, and.

870
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 3: He's another one. He kind of thought the same thing,

871
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: like I don't want to settle it receiver. He kind

872
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 3: of felt like they did last year. But if it

873
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 3: were Cooks at four million a year and a second

874
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: round pick, I understand it, you know what I mean.

875
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: But that's the thing, it's going to be that.

876
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 3: And no, that's not the answer. Yeah, that's just better

877
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 3: than Van Jefferson.

878
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 2: You know Amari Cooper who will be thirty one entering

879
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty.

880
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 3: Five, that he's going to ask for money. But we've

881
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 3: talked about him. At least he's a he's a route runner.

882
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: He's an ex can beat Man coverage. I'm interested. I mean,

883
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: at least we call his agent, Yeah, you know. Yeah.

884
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs also will be thirty one entering the twenty

885
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: five five season. But he's also coming off in ACL

886
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 2: I know, and he's.

887
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 3: Been a problem child when he doesn't get the ball,

888
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: and you know, I don't quite get that one.

889
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I'm interested in that one.

890
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: Chris Godwin, he'll be twenty nine entering the but he's

891
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: gonna be season twenty three million or twenty four million.

892
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 3: But he wouldn't cost you a pick. He's a true

893
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: UFA edition. I would certainly call.

894
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: Best of the rest. He's are one trade candidate for

895
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: free agents. Is Adam Thielen.

896
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: That's a trade candidate.

897
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: That's a trade candidate. Yes, he's like thirty four at

898
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: this point, I'm looking to do better than that. Yeah,

899
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a real fallback plan.

900
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 3: I can't ama. He's not terrible, no, but I gotta

901
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: do better than that. Mike Williams, I wouldn't hate him

902
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: being at Latrobe. Yeah, And frankly, part of it is

903
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: to be frank I mean, if you're considering trading Pickens,

904
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: having him on the roster with other stuff by no

905
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 3: means to see the answer might make that a little easier.

906
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: I'm also of the thought that guy's coming off of

907
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: an ACLA. Sometimes it takes a year to regain what

908
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: you work.

909
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 3: I don't think he saw the best version. But he

910
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 3: does have a long injury history. But at this point,

911
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: is he three million a year? Four? I mean, like

912
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 3: he can't he's not getting then he got. I mean

913
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 3: his value has gone down dramatically.

914
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins, I don't think. I don't see it. No.

915
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: I know he played through an injury all year, and

916
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 3: I give him credit for that, but it's not going

917
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 3: to get better. Probably not. I mean he was never

918
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: a separator to begin with.

919
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I mean none of these old guys

920
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: were the answer. No.

921
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: But if it's the last old guy standing and they're

922
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 3: going to take a nice pay cut than what they've

923
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 3: been used to, I might consider it.

924
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 2: With a draft pick DeMarcus Robinson.

925
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: Not really.

926
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, I mean he can get charged with the

927
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: duy in January, so you're probably looking at some kind

928
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: of suspensions.

929
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: Now. I was even going to go there because him

930
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: coming out of Florida had all kinds of red flags, right.

931
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: And then Juju Smith Schuster.

932
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 3: No, nope, Slot only only beat its own been with

933
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 3: one hundred teams since he's with the Steelers.

934
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why, folks, when we talk about Slayton, Yes,

935
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: but I think there's you know, when we had Jeremy

936
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: Fowler on during the senior voices. Look, there's gonna be

937
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 2: a better market for Slayton.

938
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 3: Mars Brown too. Yeah, the deepest speed, guys, you think

939
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: he makes twelve might get north of that. If it

940
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: gets much north, I'm not.

941
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: It's been a productive receiver on a bat and with

942
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: some bad quarterback.

943
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: Situation, they've tried to always go past them and they

944
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 3: can't get away from him. We've talked about him for

945
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 3: like a year.

946
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of years.

947
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, right right.

948
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 2: Could you get him in a trade? You know?

949
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: I thought so, but yeah, I don't know, and he

950
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: wouldn't be I wouldn't be done. Yeah with Slayton either.

951
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 2: But that's why when we talk about maybe making a

952
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: trade for a Christian Kirk as opposed to just waiting

953
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: for them to cut him, you're being proactive there. Yeah, yeah,

954
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: and you're getting a player who's still twenty eight entering

955
00:41:59,320 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 2: the season.

956
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 3: I think he's like worth the value equivalent of like

957
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: a six round pick. Yeah, I mean, I don't know

958
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: if I'd give up a five for him just to

959
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 3: get him, because I do think they'll cut him, I

960
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 3: do think.

961
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: But then you get it, then you get a bid

962
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 2: for him, then you gotta fight. Yeah, and you gotta

963
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 2: fight and he comes right.

964
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 3: That's the other he might choose another team at the

965
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: same contract. I want to stay in Florida.

966
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: I want to go somewhere there's no taxes or whatever

967
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: it may be. Whatever the reasoning, he's got a choice.

968
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 3: But what's funny is every name you just mentioned in

969
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 3: this segment, I think he's the one that's the most

970
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 3: logical in terms of makes you better. It's not asking

971
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: too much. It's not t Higgins, it's not Godwin, it's

972
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 3: not Oh, we're just sign the best guy out there. Yeah.

973
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 3: And then I'm still open for business on draft day,

974
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: not round one probably unless it was a crazy trade

975
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 3: down or something. But they could assure us Christian Kirk

976
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 3: last year.

977
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely so that and and you know that's

978
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 2: why you go after a guy like that, you know, Yeah,

979
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: DeVante Adams will be great, sure.

980
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, I mean a lot of teams stick

981
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: the same thing. Right, You're doesn't mean you can't at

982
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 3: least call him still have caps base. I'd be nice

983
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,959
Speaker 3: to have Kirk that bird in the hand today. I mean, okay,

984
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: now I can sleep a lot better.

985
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: But you know, now you know where you're at moving forward.

986
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: And if I don't do a thing between now and

987
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 3: the draft, okay, I'd still have capabilities to get better

988
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 3: in the draft.

989
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: How do you weigh Kirk versus Deebo Samuel?

990
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 3: I wonder if Debo's ready to break down. He's really

991
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: good after catch. Still, he was not very productive this

992
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: year and Ayuk was out of the picture. But he's

993
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 3: intriguing as could be, you know. I mean, he's physical,

994
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 3: loved by his teammates, get the ball in his hands.

995
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,959
Speaker 3: He's no fun to play against. Would you be done

996
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: if you had a Debo right now like he got cut,

997
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: you signed him. I don't even give a pick. I

998
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 3: don't think i'd be done.

999
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 2: I would still pro it would take drafting one early

1000
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: off the table.

1001
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm not in the Guka neighborhood anymore. Probably,

1002
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 3: Or if I might take a fourth round guy that

1003
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: still shouldn't be there. Yeah, maybe a third round guy

1004
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 3: if I you know, yeah.

1005
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: He's standing up on my board, that's the guy we

1006
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: gotta have.

1007
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I could sleep at night with Debo, Pickens, Austin, Wilson,

1008
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: Scarronic And that's kind of why I come back to

1009
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: Mike Williams too and throw Mike Williams in, you know,

1010
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 3: so I can sleep a little better, you know, right,

1011
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: But again, you're kind of a Pickens injury away from

1012
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: Oh we're pretty thin right now.

1013
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean that's that's just the reality.

1014
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: And the same is true with Cop but even less so. Yeah,

1015
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: like I'm definitely not done. If it's Cop. Yeah, he's good.

1016
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 3: It makes you better, But I can't just rely on

1017
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: him all those snaps.

1018
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 2: Right, But Kirk is again still young enough that they're

1019
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: still meat on the bone in there that he's a little.

1020
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: More versatile too. I mean, he can be your outside guy.

1021
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 3: Him and Pickens will be on the field together. He

1022
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: could bump in the slot, especially if you added another

1023
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 3: big outside ball winner type, you know, then you're a

1024
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: pretty big physical unit. Or he could stay outside if

1025
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 3: Austin's or Slought or Wilson's R slot. You know, I

1026
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 3: mean that versatility is useful. Yeah, and again he's twenty eight.

1027
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 3: I mean you may get three years out of hi. Yeah,

1028
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: not thirty one. Yeah, you probably get two good years

1029
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 3: out of them. Yeah. I mean if you signed him

1030
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 3: not a two year deal, I'd be fine with that.

1031
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. Wait, I'd at least want to see

1032
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 2: him in the uniform.

1033
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: And you know, even if you traded for him, if

1034
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 3: you traded for him, I met more if he was

1035
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,479
Speaker 3: he's got in the open marks.

1036
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 2: He's got one year left on his deal.

1037
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so well then you're fine. Yeah yeah, I'm

1038
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 3: just saying, if you got cut, what are you offering

1039
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: You've given them too, given a two year deal?

1040
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, any of these guys are going to give

1041
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 2: it at least a two year deal because you're not

1042
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: going to again, you're not. It's not a one year rental.

1043
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: And when you say two year deal, you can build it.

1044
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: You can build it so you can get out of

1045
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 2: it after one.

1046
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 3: Especial if it's like Cup. Yeah, yeah, maybe Debo is

1047
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: a real two year deal. Kirk might be a real

1048
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 3: two year deal that doesn't kill you. To get out of,

1049
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 3: but hurts you a little.

1050
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, through a couple avoidable years on at the end,

1051
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: and you see where.

1052
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 3: You're at, moosaling and I'm sure next year's draft will

1053
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: have plenty of them. Yeah, I mean they always do.

1054
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: Anyways, let's get to a break that's going to do

1055
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: it for our number one of the drive here on

1056
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back with

1057
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: our number two right after this.