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Speaker 2: The World's a vigeonal podcast. Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. I

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Speaker 2: never watched Friday Night Lights. I heard it was a

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Speaker 2: great show, great.

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Speaker 3: Show, great cinema.

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Speaker 4: You're a film junkie.

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Speaker 5: I'm surprised in you. You haven't seen that.

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Speaker 2: No, I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 6: Have you seen the movie?

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Speaker 2: No? No, you're not seeing Jaws as worse?

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Speaker 4: Had so much time to much pickleball.

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Speaker 6: Pickleball, I've never I've never played, but I would think

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Speaker 6: that that would be something I could play a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit like I could ever like it because they drink.

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Speaker 6: You're making me very nervous with that open bottle of

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Speaker 6: soda as you're moving your hand in my hand right,

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Speaker 2: There's some people, uh that should not be wearing that

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Speaker 2: track so they look like literally they're wearing pajamas. What

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Speaker 2: do you like the track?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 5: I only have the hoodie. Yeah, I don't have the pants. Right.

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Speaker 2: Looking at some of the non players that wear the

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Speaker 2: track suit, would you say that it's flattering?

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Speaker 5: I don't think i've ever looked. I didn't like that.

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Speaker 5: How there is fund of that?

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven? All right, that's it for this edition of Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Let's gonna go.

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Speaker 4: We can't get out of that seem fast enough.

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Speaker 2: To catch twenty two is coming up. Alex is waiting

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Speaker 2: over there. He's gonna coming up.

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Speaker 4: Clean up what I'm on to do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm out of here. This is Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 2: at ju Let's Stadium. Only good things, only good things down.

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Speaker 2: What a week? What a week? I'm excited.

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Speaker 6: Did you make it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh I made it?

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Speaker 6: Oh good yeah, goodness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you're talking about last week? Yes, I know. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was big in the newsletter, big topic of the

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Speaker 2: news I don't think it was the lead. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: we are here. It is Evan, it is Paul, myself, Deuce, Matt,

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Speaker 2: and the booth. We're coming off of victory two out

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Speaker 2: of three wins, baby, and I'm looking at the schedule.

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Speaker 2: I see more wins on the horizon. These teams, these

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Speaker 2: teams are not They're all flawed. They're all flawed. And

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Speaker 2: I think the Patriots, except for maybe the Bills game,

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Speaker 2: that last game against the Bills, if they're not playing

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Speaker 5: At home, that could be playing for the division.

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Speaker 2: Again. I was I was listening to I was listening

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Speaker 2: to one of Paul's shows this morning, and uh, Courtney

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Speaker 2: Cox was saying she could see six and one local local. Uh.

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Speaker 6: You know, all the nasty talk shows that are only

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Speaker 2: And if they are six one, they could see Drod

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Speaker 4: What's the one? How things at Buffalo a little bit

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Speaker 2: There's a path, boy, a path things of overnight. Overnight

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Speaker 2: things have changed. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Cures everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, at least for this week.

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Speaker 5: It does two games out of the seven seed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, three minutes. Another thing I want to bring up, Uh,

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Speaker 2: Drake may So. Uh, stay tuned on patries dot com

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Speaker 2: and YouTube. You'll see that full Drake maked up. But

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Speaker 2: before we publish it, the digital team puts together what

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Speaker 5: And you gotta love that.

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Speaker 2: You gotta love that, right twenty two year old.

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Speaker 6: I like the fact that he recognized that things weren't

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Speaker 5: I thought this was his worst game out of the

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Speaker 6: Strange Bedfellow, it's fair enough.

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Speaker 5: So, I mean, it was ironic that this is the

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Speaker 4: Seems like his intangibles are are making center stage the

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Speaker 2: One part of me started Week one.

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Speaker 4: Well, one part of me wishes he didn't have to

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Speaker 2: Sure, even more than the win. I think that's that's

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Speaker 5: How about your defense though, Deuce.

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Speaker 4: I did grind the film because I had to, because

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Speaker 4: it was a good performance, I know, and I think

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Speaker 6: So that just as about the defense in that performance.

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Speaker 6: This game was over. Yeah, I mean, I know it

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Speaker 6: I thought I saw him more against the run in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that front. I mean they were dominating

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Speaker 5: You know, I think the offensive line injuries for Chicago

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Speaker 2: But this is what you want to do to an

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Speaker 2: Was there not?

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Speaker 6: People were asking no, no, no. I saw the calls

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Speaker 2: I got I respectfully declined for obvious reasons. I haven't

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Speaker 5: Once it was once it got to you know, the

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Speaker 5: And when in retrospect, I think all of us watch

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Speaker 5: out to Jelani Tavai too. I think he played outstanding

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Speaker 4: He suddenly got dad strength.

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Speaker 5: This was his best game of the year. Uh, multitude

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Speaker 5: to Takie Talkie is a guy that can play in

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Speaker 4: I mean I was critical of him. I was really

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Speaker 4: And then I mean, even there we go lurking twelve

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Speaker 2: Place we're looking at the TV. NFL network has the

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Speaker 2: there are literally two games out of the.

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Speaker 6: I look forward to the path math at two from

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Speaker 2: All let's go, let's go. Who cares about the draft,

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Speaker 6: I would absolutely like to win football. Absolutely, it's not

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Speaker 6: that's not the path math question.

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Speaker 2: No, I know, but like the games, you know what

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Speaker 6: Nobody says that if you, if you.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's just say let's let's let's just get crazy

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Speaker 2: and let's just say they do start rattling off wins.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that so much better for the evan?

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Speaker 6: Don't you like to see them win.

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Speaker 2: Than to be looking for the culture? No, but there

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Speaker 2: are people, Paul.

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Speaker 6: Trust me, you don't want to be one of those.

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Speaker 6: You don't want to be.

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Speaker 5: Well, now they have the seventh picks of who are

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Speaker 2: Let's let's stack some wins here and trust Mike. Trust Mike.

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Speaker 6: You don't want to be one of those teams.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think the thing I like though, I mean,

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Speaker 4: on by a thread, but I mean the Bills, the Cardinals,

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Speaker 4: they're kind of fading a little bit. But they're all

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Speaker 2: Of you, ahead of you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would push back a little bit on the schedule.

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Speaker 5: Schedule easy. Schedule has been super easy top I'm just

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Speaker 6: The last four games on paper, who knows, but the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chargers defenses.

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Speaker 4: And the point I was trying to make is like

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Speaker 4: push beat some good teams. You know, these are good

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Speaker 6: That was kind of a joke.

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Speaker 3: Doing this.

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Speaker 2: We're doing the push talk.

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Speaker 5: No, but just one more thing about the defense because

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Speaker 2: It was so good because he's out there and he

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Speaker 5: It was unbelievable how good he was at it, having

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Speaker 6: I would say that the coordinators on both sides of

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Speaker 4: Ye executed you know a little bit of semblance of

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Speaker 4: But will be tough.

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Speaker 2: It'll be a tough game the Rams. They didn't Both

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Speaker 6: You go zero for three in the red zone and

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Speaker 2: And mistakes making mistakes.

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Speaker 6: No, but I mean you move the ball into scoring

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Speaker 6: that's how you only score fifteen So five field goals

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Speaker 2: Se So despite the performance last night, I think it's

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Speaker 2: I think it will be too.

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Speaker 6: What like we're now saying no, but I mean, look,

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Speaker 6: this will be a tough game for the people.

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Speaker 2: Well people, Oh, look at the Rams. They're you know,

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Speaker 6: Play comparison to the Patriots is all I'm talking. Yes,

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Speaker 6: you're you're right. I know that that mean nasty talk

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Speaker 6: I know there's a lot of meanies here in Boston.

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Speaker 5: I grinded the Rams offense tape this morning against the

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Speaker 5: had the codes to mcveigh's offense. You know, that's one

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Speaker 6: I watched some of the highlights of the game. I

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Speaker 2: You know what Stafford. I thought he had touchdown. I

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Speaker 6: Well you know, see that's when when you don't watch

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Speaker 2: Like like, yeah, he was he overthrew on a couple

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the offensive line struggled and they didn't like have

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Speaker 2: And but both teams were not playing well. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: we get both these teams back to back. Going down

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Speaker 6: I don't be deceived that that will be There's.

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Speaker 2: Still a decent one.

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Speaker 4: That's one of the six, right.

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Speaker 6: That will be a tough that's Mike. Don't just pencil

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Speaker 6: that one is a win, right that one? That one

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Speaker 4: It's a tough one.

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Speaker 2: Love it.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're the other team, the other quarterback, other quarter.

442
00:20:49,994 --> 00:20:51,714
Speaker 6: They're a different team, is right.

443
00:20:52,833 --> 00:20:56,714
Speaker 2: Well, people get them, all right, But I mean you

444
00:20:56,754 --> 00:20:58,914
Speaker 2: look at you look at the schedule. There's some winnable

445
00:20:58,954 --> 00:21:01,794
Speaker 2: games there. I could see them. I could see them

446
00:21:01,874 --> 00:21:05,154
Speaker 2: ending with, you know, six wins this season, which is

447
00:21:05,273 --> 00:21:08,114
Speaker 2: funny because that's what I thought their ceiling was going

448
00:21:08,154 --> 00:21:13,313
Speaker 2: into the season. And if that happens, then you know,

449
00:21:14,114 --> 00:21:18,553
Speaker 2: I'm excited for you know, twenty twenty five. Make some

450
00:21:18,634 --> 00:21:21,033
Speaker 2: good draft picks, some good moves, get a lot of

451
00:21:21,033 --> 00:21:21,634
Speaker 2: money to spend.

452
00:21:22,353 --> 00:21:24,194
Speaker 6: Used to say, make a couple of moves, will be

453
00:21:24,234 --> 00:21:24,554
Speaker 6: right back.

454
00:21:24,593 --> 00:21:27,154
Speaker 2: An burnt some money.

455
00:21:27,674 --> 00:21:30,674
Speaker 5: We got the kidd schedule, like not in a good way.

456
00:21:31,553 --> 00:21:33,393
Speaker 5: So they have one of the hardest remaining schedules in

457
00:21:33,434 --> 00:21:36,553
Speaker 5: the least bring it on, but all the more. But

458
00:21:36,994 --> 00:21:43,074
Speaker 5: I've heard there's some winnable. I don't know the Colts winnable.

459
00:21:43,313 --> 00:21:47,194
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, yeah, he's hit the wall.

460
00:21:47,313 --> 00:21:48,154
Speaker 6: I'll wait for the rest.

461
00:21:49,353 --> 00:21:54,273
Speaker 2: Yeah, wait for the rest. Okay, well, but it's fair enough.

462
00:21:54,474 --> 00:21:56,234
Speaker 2: But I think we have a whole new outlook.

463
00:21:56,234 --> 00:21:58,354
Speaker 6: And I'm not telling you that they can't win any other.

464
00:21:58,353 --> 00:21:59,474
Speaker 5: I hear you.

465
00:21:59,914 --> 00:22:02,833
Speaker 6: Upsets happen, Like, I'm not telling you that they're not going.

466
00:22:02,754 --> 00:22:04,273
Speaker 2: To win any probably going to be the dogs in

467
00:22:04,353 --> 00:22:06,833
Speaker 2: most The Colts game is a game to me of

468
00:22:07,114 --> 00:22:09,873
Speaker 2: you know, kind of they might be favored, similar to

469
00:22:10,194 --> 00:22:12,354
Speaker 2: they could be, Yeah, they could be, but like.

470
00:22:13,154 --> 00:22:15,474
Speaker 4: It might be back at Anthony Richardson by that point.

471
00:22:15,353 --> 00:22:19,434
Speaker 6: Like the Rams just you know, stacking up player for players.

472
00:22:19,434 --> 00:22:21,234
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, yeah, you.

473
00:22:21,154 --> 00:22:23,434
Speaker 6: Have to pull an upset some day. Absolutely, probably gonna

474
00:22:23,434 --> 00:22:23,914
Speaker 6: need some help.

475
00:22:24,434 --> 00:22:27,474
Speaker 2: I think every game going forward, except for the Colts,

476
00:22:27,833 --> 00:22:29,594
Speaker 2: the Patriots will probably be dogs.

477
00:22:30,073 --> 00:22:32,994
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think saying five or six wins you would

478
00:22:33,033 --> 00:22:36,353
Speaker 5: hope is probably real. I mean, you win one of

479
00:22:36,114 --> 00:22:38,474
Speaker 5: the games you should win, like the Colts, and then

480
00:22:39,194 --> 00:22:41,833
Speaker 5: you know, maybe you steal a game at some point

481
00:22:41,914 --> 00:22:43,913
Speaker 5: down the stretch too, and you get to five instead

482
00:22:43,914 --> 00:22:44,234
Speaker 5: of four?

483
00:22:44,474 --> 00:22:45,513
Speaker 2: Yep?

484
00:22:45,634 --> 00:22:47,873
Speaker 4: Does that have value? To get to five? Progress to

485
00:22:47,874 --> 00:22:49,954
Speaker 4: improve from last year? Like? Is that a little bit?

486
00:22:50,073 --> 00:22:52,794
Speaker 6: I mean, that's a big felgarism, don't. I don't care

487
00:22:52,833 --> 00:22:54,873
Speaker 6: as much about that as how they play, Like I

488
00:22:54,874 --> 00:22:58,594
Speaker 6: would like to see them play some good football games

489
00:22:58,634 --> 00:23:00,954
Speaker 6: down the stretch and let the Chips follow. Do I

490
00:23:00,954 --> 00:23:03,273
Speaker 6: want to win them? Of course I do want them again,

491
00:23:03,474 --> 00:23:05,913
Speaker 6: I know Mike taught me this, Like you you know,

492
00:23:05,954 --> 00:23:12,033
Speaker 6: winnings better than losing, get it. Yeah, But I'd like

493
00:23:12,114 --> 00:23:16,194
Speaker 6: to see the offense sort of. I'd like to established

494
00:23:16,634 --> 00:23:18,274
Speaker 6: we'll move the ball on score points. I know those

495
00:23:18,273 --> 00:23:20,033
Speaker 6: are two things that I say all the time, and

496
00:23:20,073 --> 00:23:24,033
Speaker 6: they really haven't done that on a consistent basis. It's

497
00:23:24,073 --> 00:23:26,273
Speaker 6: a little better with may that. I think they're like

498
00:23:26,313 --> 00:23:29,793
Speaker 6: a field goal better, maybe like twenty yards better. But

499
00:23:29,874 --> 00:23:32,874
Speaker 6: it's not good right, and it's and I think it's

500
00:23:32,954 --> 00:23:34,834
Speaker 6: this like, I think it can be there. I think

501
00:23:34,874 --> 00:23:36,914
Speaker 6: it's close, if that makes anything.

502
00:23:37,914 --> 00:23:41,474
Speaker 2: That's where the offense breaks out. But the problem is

503
00:23:42,353 --> 00:23:47,433
Speaker 2: this receiving room. It's it's iffy at best. You know,

504
00:23:47,634 --> 00:23:49,994
Speaker 2: Like what was the deal with Bourne not playing? It's

505
00:23:50,033 --> 00:23:51,073
Speaker 2: another one, Like it's.

506
00:23:51,033 --> 00:23:55,313
Speaker 5: Kind of weird, right, So yeah, I I had seen

507
00:23:55,353 --> 00:23:58,234
Speaker 5: on film and that you know, I don't know what

508
00:23:58,313 --> 00:24:00,513
Speaker 5: they're being coached, so I tried not to do this,

509
00:24:00,714 --> 00:24:03,474
Speaker 5: but I don't always think that he knows what he's doing.

510
00:24:03,914 --> 00:24:05,833
Speaker 5: And he missed all of training camp and he missed

511
00:24:05,833 --> 00:24:09,113
Speaker 5: the entire offseason because of the ACL. So you just wonder,

512
00:24:09,194 --> 00:24:12,553
Speaker 5: you know, new system, new offensive coordinator, Like what is

513
00:24:12,593 --> 00:24:16,073
Speaker 5: his level of grasping the playbook right now compared to

514
00:24:16,114 --> 00:24:18,513
Speaker 5: a guy like kJ Osborne who has been here since

515
00:24:18,593 --> 00:24:22,194
Speaker 5: day one and practicing since day one. At some point

516
00:24:22,234 --> 00:24:25,833
Speaker 5: you might need Bourne's just ability over kJ Osborne and

517
00:24:25,874 --> 00:24:28,994
Speaker 5: you live with the mental errors. But you do see

518
00:24:29,073 --> 00:24:30,474
Speaker 5: quite a bit. I mean, there was a play a

519
00:24:30,474 --> 00:24:34,393
Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago where Hunter Henry's like pointing mid play,

520
00:24:34,754 --> 00:24:37,513
Speaker 5: being like you're supposed to go this way, dude, and like,

521
00:24:37,553 --> 00:24:40,194
Speaker 5: you know, Kendrick Bourne's kind of just like you know,

522
00:24:40,273 --> 00:24:44,353
Speaker 5: palms up. Yes, I think some of it might be

523
00:24:44,474 --> 00:24:46,913
Speaker 5: about more the mental side of things right now.

524
00:24:47,154 --> 00:24:47,833
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

525
00:24:48,313 --> 00:24:50,394
Speaker 6: I would just go with one of the younger guys then.

526
00:24:50,434 --> 00:24:52,273
Speaker 2: Like that's what they did, well, they did.

527
00:24:52,434 --> 00:24:56,833
Speaker 6: They went with kJ Osky. Yeah, Osbourne got Bourne's reps,

528
00:24:56,994 --> 00:25:01,154
Speaker 6: and I would rather Baker or Taekwon Thornton, someone who

529
00:25:01,634 --> 00:25:03,954
Speaker 6: the final book hasn't been written on yet.

530
00:25:04,073 --> 00:25:05,154
Speaker 5: Yeah, Baker for sure.

531
00:25:05,194 --> 00:25:06,874
Speaker 6: Like I don't think Osborne is going to be here

532
00:25:06,914 --> 00:25:09,674
Speaker 6: next year, right and I'm not even sure he's gonna

533
00:25:09,634 --> 00:25:12,234
Speaker 6: make it all the way through the season. So it

534
00:25:12,313 --> 00:25:14,474
Speaker 6: didn't make a lot of sense to me. The reasons

535
00:25:14,474 --> 00:25:17,393
Speaker 6: that Evan said, those all individually makes sense to me.

536
00:25:17,434 --> 00:25:20,673
Speaker 6: Why Bourne didn't play, Yeah, that doesn't make sense to

537
00:25:20,674 --> 00:25:21,674
Speaker 6: me why Osborne did.

538
00:25:22,474 --> 00:25:25,594
Speaker 2: Probably other reasons about tykon Thornton and Baker or that

539
00:25:25,674 --> 00:25:29,153
Speaker 2: we don't know either. But you know, but I'm just

540
00:25:29,154 --> 00:25:32,113
Speaker 2: saying that in order to what happened in Chicago. No,

541
00:25:32,234 --> 00:25:34,513
Speaker 2: but I'm just saying it. I'm hoping for that one

542
00:25:34,553 --> 00:25:38,593
Speaker 2: game where the offense breaks out. But other than Remandre

543
00:25:38,994 --> 00:25:44,194
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe Gibson in in May, I don't

544
00:25:44,234 --> 00:25:45,673
Speaker 2: know if there's the talent there to do it.

545
00:25:45,754 --> 00:25:49,034
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not you know, I'm realistic. I'm not expecting

546
00:25:49,073 --> 00:25:51,154
Speaker 6: them to put a fifty burger up without like seven

547
00:25:51,194 --> 00:25:54,353
Speaker 6: turnovers or anything like that. But I think there's a

548
00:25:54,434 --> 00:25:58,754
Speaker 6: semblance of offense that's starting to develop where it doesn't

549
00:25:58,793 --> 00:26:01,913
Speaker 6: look like it used to be the last three years,

550
00:26:01,914 --> 00:26:05,793
Speaker 6: Like okay, first down holding call, Okay, where's the punter?

551
00:26:06,234 --> 00:26:06,714
Speaker 2: Right now?

552
00:26:06,793 --> 00:26:09,033
Speaker 6: I don't feel like that anymore. I feel like they

553
00:26:09,073 --> 00:26:12,154
Speaker 6: can overcome. Do you know a little bit less than perfect?

554
00:26:12,353 --> 00:26:15,154
Speaker 2: Do we think the line did? Because they they started

555
00:26:15,434 --> 00:26:18,434
Speaker 2: that the line was what it ended with last week,

556
00:26:18,474 --> 00:26:20,593
Speaker 2: and it was the same line as the Jets game, right,

557
00:26:21,114 --> 00:26:23,194
Speaker 2: so they went back to that. How do we think

558
00:26:23,234 --> 00:26:23,513
Speaker 2: it did?

559
00:26:24,073 --> 00:26:28,833
Speaker 5: Passable? Yeah, thirty seven, thirty eight percent pressure rate. They

560
00:26:28,874 --> 00:26:32,833
Speaker 5: ran the ball a little bit, so definitely functional. I

561
00:26:33,394 --> 00:26:35,273
Speaker 5: would look at the personnel that they have and say

562
00:26:35,273 --> 00:26:37,033
Speaker 5: that this is the best you can expect, Like, I

563
00:26:37,073 --> 00:26:40,314
Speaker 5: don't think you can really expect them to be, especially

564
00:26:40,313 --> 00:26:43,273
Speaker 5: against teams that have some pass rushers like the Bears do,

565
00:26:43,994 --> 00:26:46,514
Speaker 5: to be much better than what they did on Sunday.

566
00:26:46,553 --> 00:26:48,273
Speaker 5: And I would also say I don't think you can

567
00:26:48,313 --> 00:26:50,793
Speaker 5: expect the play calling to be all that much better.

568
00:26:51,033 --> 00:26:51,474
Speaker 2: Than it was.

569
00:26:51,833 --> 00:26:54,634
Speaker 6: Agree that they did some good things, yeah, on both side.

570
00:26:54,674 --> 00:26:57,313
Speaker 5: I mean, I think some of the things, some of

571
00:26:57,313 --> 00:27:00,634
Speaker 5: their big plays were busts by Chicago on that side

572
00:27:00,674 --> 00:27:02,954
Speaker 5: of the ball, So I'd take those with a grain

573
00:27:02,994 --> 00:27:06,314
Speaker 5: assault like those aren't necessarily Paul's thing, like repeatable plays

574
00:27:06,353 --> 00:27:08,073
Speaker 5: that you can do week in and week out, like

575
00:27:08,394 --> 00:27:10,634
Speaker 5: when the team doesn't cover Austin Hooper on a cross

576
00:27:10,714 --> 00:27:12,913
Speaker 5: or he like, that's not going to happen every single week,

577
00:27:13,273 --> 00:27:15,594
Speaker 5: that he's going to be wide open. But I thought

578
00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:19,273
Speaker 5: that they did enough schematically and on the offensive line

579
00:27:19,313 --> 00:27:22,834
Speaker 5: that really I felt like Drake played bad. So if

580
00:27:22,833 --> 00:27:25,273
Speaker 5: he can play better, I'm thought, sure, they will.

581
00:27:25,353 --> 00:27:27,513
Speaker 6: Kind of created some of the pressure you think, So

582
00:27:27,634 --> 00:27:29,353
Speaker 6: that's why I mean, I didn't think the line was

583
00:27:29,434 --> 00:27:31,754
Speaker 6: awesome or anything. I thought they were okay. But I

584
00:27:31,793 --> 00:27:35,354
Speaker 6: thought early Mike and I were commenting that both quarterbacks

585
00:27:35,394 --> 00:27:37,874
Speaker 6: early in the game didn't look like they were seeing

586
00:27:37,874 --> 00:27:40,073
Speaker 6: the field very well. I thought Drake was kind of

587
00:27:40,154 --> 00:27:43,033
Speaker 6: running around a little bit, yep, And I think he

588
00:27:43,394 --> 00:27:45,353
Speaker 6: in his defense, I think he settled down a little bit.

589
00:27:45,353 --> 00:27:49,154
Speaker 6: You got that touchdown drive and then the reason why

590
00:27:49,194 --> 00:27:51,713
Speaker 6: I was so excited about sort of the coordination, like

591
00:27:51,754 --> 00:27:55,193
Speaker 6: some of the things that we saw. Finally, the last

592
00:27:55,353 --> 00:27:57,113
Speaker 6: you know, the last drive, the two minute drill at

593
00:27:57,154 --> 00:27:59,874
Speaker 6: the end of the half. You know, obviously they get

594
00:27:59,914 --> 00:28:02,474
Speaker 6: a huge boost by Marcus Jones punt return that sets

595
00:28:02,513 --> 00:28:04,273
Speaker 6: him up at the forty yard line, you basically in

596
00:28:04,313 --> 00:28:07,033
Speaker 6: field goal range when you take over. But they really

597
00:28:07,114 --> 00:28:09,954
Speaker 6: executed it well. You know, they didn't have a whole

598
00:28:10,033 --> 00:28:12,714
Speaker 6: lot of time to spare. They get the play downfield

599
00:28:12,793 --> 00:28:16,473
Speaker 6: to Booty, everybody's on the same page. They get up

600
00:28:16,513 --> 00:28:19,033
Speaker 6: and they they were able to spike the ball. Yeah,

601
00:28:19,234 --> 00:28:22,194
Speaker 6: I know that was like routine for everybody else. What

602
00:28:22,273 --> 00:28:23,873
Speaker 6: happened at the end of the first half happens in

603
00:28:23,914 --> 00:28:26,833
Speaker 6: every single NFL game, Yeah, but it hasn't happened for

604
00:28:26,914 --> 00:28:31,193
Speaker 6: Patriots games in a year and a half. So I

605
00:28:31,234 --> 00:28:32,154
Speaker 6: was excited about that.

606
00:28:32,394 --> 00:28:34,394
Speaker 5: Yeah, it helps when you have a quarterback that makes

607
00:28:34,394 --> 00:28:36,633
Speaker 5: a throw like that. I mean that that throw to

608
00:28:36,674 --> 00:28:39,193
Speaker 5: Booty is special, Like you don't have every guy that

609
00:28:39,194 --> 00:28:41,554
Speaker 5: can make that type of throw, but now that they

610
00:28:41,554 --> 00:28:43,434
Speaker 5: do have a guy like that. But you know, early

611
00:28:43,514 --> 00:28:46,154
Speaker 5: on in this game, I thought the first five of

612
00:28:46,234 --> 00:28:49,393
Speaker 5: seven dropbacks were minus plays. You know he was. He

613
00:28:49,514 --> 00:28:52,514
Speaker 5: was swimming in in a little bit, was taking off early,

614
00:28:52,674 --> 00:28:55,074
Speaker 5: you know, leaving pockets prematurely. Things like that.

615
00:28:55,714 --> 00:28:58,354
Speaker 6: We were on it. Evan's with us. Yeah, you're with

616
00:28:58,434 --> 00:28:58,713
Speaker 6: us now.

617
00:28:59,234 --> 00:28:59,674
Speaker 7: Yeah.

618
00:28:59,714 --> 00:29:01,434
Speaker 5: The third down run that he had where he got

619
00:29:01,474 --> 00:29:04,394
Speaker 5: stopped short, He's got two open receivers on that play,

620
00:29:04,514 --> 00:29:05,954
Speaker 5: Like you just got to stay in the pocket and

621
00:29:05,954 --> 00:29:09,194
Speaker 5: play quarterback and make a throw he had Hunter Henry,

622
00:29:09,194 --> 00:29:10,873
Speaker 5: I think for a touchdown if he stays in the

623
00:29:10,914 --> 00:29:12,274
Speaker 5: pocket on that one.

624
00:29:12,394 --> 00:29:13,594
Speaker 6: So I can't see that.

625
00:29:14,514 --> 00:29:16,433
Speaker 5: Those are the ones that you know, you look at

626
00:29:16,474 --> 00:29:18,474
Speaker 5: and you say, okay, we you know, we need to

627
00:29:18,514 --> 00:29:20,954
Speaker 5: eliminate that. Like when they open a gap on the

628
00:29:20,994 --> 00:29:23,554
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage, it's like he can't help himself but

629
00:29:23,634 --> 00:29:25,474
Speaker 5: to take off running, you know, he just it's his

630
00:29:25,554 --> 00:29:28,274
Speaker 5: instinct and he just goes ahead and does it. But

631
00:29:28,314 --> 00:29:30,594
Speaker 5: if they can get him to settle down a little bit,

632
00:29:30,834 --> 00:29:34,234
Speaker 5: I feel like early on in games besides maybe against Jacksonville,

633
00:29:34,274 --> 00:29:36,194
Speaker 5: this seems to be a theme with him where it's

634
00:29:36,234 --> 00:29:38,354
Speaker 5: kind of a feeling out process. So if they can

635
00:29:38,394 --> 00:29:40,633
Speaker 5: get him to settle down a little bit in terms

636
00:29:40,634 --> 00:29:42,794
Speaker 5: of that, then it'll be okay. And then obviously, the

637
00:29:42,834 --> 00:29:45,474
Speaker 5: interceptions he entered was was you know what it was?

638
00:29:45,714 --> 00:29:49,394
Speaker 2: So he said, I don't believe him. I don't know.

639
00:29:49,994 --> 00:29:53,514
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that was that was that was

640
00:29:53,754 --> 00:29:55,194
Speaker 6: Zach Wilson. I was trying to throw it.

641
00:29:55,474 --> 00:29:55,674
Speaker 2: Yeah.

642
00:29:55,674 --> 00:29:57,514
Speaker 5: So that was one of the five out of the

643
00:29:57,514 --> 00:30:02,314
Speaker 5: first seven dropbacks that obviously. So once he got past that,

644
00:30:02,514 --> 00:30:04,554
Speaker 5: it settled down a little bit. And then the throat

645
00:30:04,554 --> 00:30:06,794
Speaker 5: to Booty is just you can put that on a

646
00:30:06,914 --> 00:30:08,633
Speaker 5: on a highlight reel. You know, what did you what

647
00:30:08,634 --> 00:30:08,914
Speaker 5: did you.

648
00:30:08,834 --> 00:30:10,234
Speaker 4: Think of the red zone those? I was thinking of

649
00:30:10,274 --> 00:30:12,433
Speaker 4: Fred looking for the breakout game. I mean, they had

650
00:30:12,514 --> 00:30:15,034
Speaker 4: they were down there a bunch, they just couldn't score touchdowns.

651
00:30:15,034 --> 00:30:16,634
Speaker 4: I mean maybe that's one of the keys to get

652
00:30:16,634 --> 00:30:18,434
Speaker 4: in that step to what was saying.

653
00:30:18,514 --> 00:30:21,074
Speaker 5: Yeah, the throw to Henry was another turnover worthy play,

654
00:30:21,474 --> 00:30:24,234
Speaker 5: like he's late and behind his feet, weren't great on it,

655
00:30:24,394 --> 00:30:26,433
Speaker 5: Like that's just not a good play. You know, I

656
00:30:26,434 --> 00:30:29,554
Speaker 5: think it was it needed to be a really good pass,

657
00:30:29,634 --> 00:30:32,794
Speaker 5: but I think a really good pass probably wins there,

658
00:30:33,394 --> 00:30:36,074
Speaker 5: and it just wasn't. So I had to be super

659
00:30:36,074 --> 00:30:38,234
Speaker 5: critical of him, but I just you know, there were

660
00:30:38,274 --> 00:30:38,873
Speaker 5: good plays.

661
00:30:38,954 --> 00:30:41,394
Speaker 6: I'll take you off the hook. So in the post

662
00:30:42,154 --> 00:30:44,754
Speaker 6: in the postgame show, I actually had him on the

663
00:30:44,794 --> 00:30:47,874
Speaker 6: bad list, And when we were done talking about it,

664
00:30:47,954 --> 00:30:49,194
Speaker 6: you know, I think we went to a break and

665
00:30:49,234 --> 00:30:52,274
Speaker 6: I looked at Mic I go, oh, I'm going to

666
00:30:52,354 --> 00:30:54,433
Speaker 6: hear about this one. I'm going to get beat up

667
00:30:54,474 --> 00:30:57,393
Speaker 6: on for this one. And I was kind of in

668
00:30:57,434 --> 00:30:59,594
Speaker 6: my mind, I was regretting, you know, maybe I should

669
00:30:59,634 --> 00:31:05,594
Speaker 6: just put him on no list. But I think and

670
00:31:05,594 --> 00:31:08,393
Speaker 6: what I'm trying to do is I'm not trying to

671
00:31:08,394 --> 00:31:10,274
Speaker 6: treat him like a rookie. I'm trying to treat him

672
00:31:10,274 --> 00:31:12,554
Speaker 6: like an NFL quarterback. And I'm also basing it on

673
00:31:12,594 --> 00:31:15,114
Speaker 6: what I've seen in the other games. I didn't think

674
00:31:15,114 --> 00:31:16,794
Speaker 6: he was quite as good in this game as he

675
00:31:16,874 --> 00:31:19,234
Speaker 6: has been, even though he didn't turn it over three

676
00:31:19,274 --> 00:31:22,474
Speaker 6: times the way he did in two of the other games.

677
00:31:22,554 --> 00:31:24,914
Speaker 6: I thought he made more, as Evan likes to say,

678
00:31:24,954 --> 00:31:29,113
Speaker 6: Evan and Greg, you guys, more plus plays in some

679
00:31:29,194 --> 00:31:30,634
Speaker 6: of the other games than we saw in this one.

680
00:31:30,674 --> 00:31:33,234
Speaker 5: This is the fewest plus plays I had for him.

681
00:31:33,274 --> 00:31:35,913
Speaker 2: Do you think the wind was on his mind because

682
00:31:35,954 --> 00:31:37,354
Speaker 2: it was Wendy down there.

683
00:31:37,674 --> 00:31:39,354
Speaker 5: It could have been. It could have been. But he

684
00:31:39,394 --> 00:31:42,274
Speaker 5: also made some really nice downfield through this, so I

685
00:31:42,274 --> 00:31:44,594
Speaker 5: think to me, it was more about decision making, Like

686
00:31:44,634 --> 00:31:47,514
Speaker 5: he left two pockets early. I thought a third down

687
00:31:47,554 --> 00:31:50,554
Speaker 5: throw to Pop Douglas over the middle of the field,

688
00:31:50,834 --> 00:31:53,953
Speaker 5: you know, Pop sat. I was about to bring that up.

689
00:31:54,154 --> 00:31:56,474
Speaker 5: You know, Pop sat because it was zone. So he

690
00:31:56,594 --> 00:31:58,674
Speaker 5: sat in the zone and Drake was leading him right

691
00:31:58,714 --> 00:32:01,354
Speaker 5: into Tremaine Edmonds. And as soon as it went off

692
00:32:01,354 --> 00:32:03,714
Speaker 5: Pop's hands, he looked just like Paul just said and said,

693
00:32:04,114 --> 00:32:04,674
Speaker 5: settled down.

694
00:32:04,754 --> 00:32:07,514
Speaker 6: I think you're saying I'm supposed to see yeah.

695
00:32:07,474 --> 00:32:10,594
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. So you know, there was just some little

696
00:32:10,634 --> 00:32:14,514
Speaker 5: things there about reading the field, decision making that wasn't

697
00:32:14,514 --> 00:32:17,514
Speaker 5: as sharp as it was in some of the other games.

698
00:32:17,554 --> 00:32:19,954
Speaker 5: But then, like I keep saying, he still sees the throws.

699
00:32:19,994 --> 00:32:21,674
Speaker 5: You know, the throw to Hooper is a great throw

700
00:32:21,914 --> 00:32:25,314
Speaker 5: on the corner route. Throw to Booty, the nineteen yard scream,

701
00:32:25,554 --> 00:32:27,754
Speaker 5: I thought was a good play, just kind of pulling

702
00:32:27,794 --> 00:32:30,074
Speaker 5: a play out of nowhere on a covered route.

703
00:32:30,154 --> 00:32:32,194
Speaker 6: I just wish that when he did that, and I

704
00:32:32,194 --> 00:32:33,714
Speaker 6: don't want to take that away from him. I know

705
00:32:33,754 --> 00:32:35,514
Speaker 6: that's a big part of his arsenal, but I just

706
00:32:35,514 --> 00:32:38,714
Speaker 6: don't like the way he runs like once he once,

707
00:32:38,714 --> 00:32:42,274
Speaker 6: he gets it, Like he doesn't do much to protect himself,

708
00:32:42,834 --> 00:32:45,473
Speaker 6: and I worry, fred I wonry about him. Yeah, no,

709
00:32:45,514 --> 00:32:48,234
Speaker 6: I just like protecting the ball, protecting himself. There was

710
00:32:48,274 --> 00:32:50,714
Speaker 6: one he's sort of in between slides a lot, you know,

711
00:32:50,834 --> 00:32:52,074
Speaker 6: my running my slide.

712
00:32:52,074 --> 00:32:52,194
Speaker 3: I know.

713
00:32:52,474 --> 00:32:54,594
Speaker 6: Mike made a really good point too about the slides,

714
00:32:55,274 --> 00:32:59,234
Speaker 6: like like, think about that's that nineteen yard run right, Well,

715
00:32:59,234 --> 00:33:01,674
Speaker 6: they ended up getting like two hits on him, two

716
00:33:01,714 --> 00:33:05,153
Speaker 6: good hits, and Mike is like, if you just make

717
00:33:05,194 --> 00:33:07,754
Speaker 6: it a seventeen yard running, you slide. It's like doubly

718
00:33:07,794 --> 00:33:10,873
Speaker 6: frustrating for the defense. Like he makes the play, he

719
00:33:10,914 --> 00:33:12,873
Speaker 6: moves the chains and I didn't even get a shot

720
00:33:12,874 --> 00:33:16,873
Speaker 6: at it. He gets up and just you know, like

721
00:33:16,874 --> 00:33:18,314
Speaker 6: at least you get a lick on him, and you know,

722
00:33:19,354 --> 00:33:22,794
Speaker 6: so again this is something I'm starting to like. The

723
00:33:22,834 --> 00:33:26,034
Speaker 6: bar is getting raised because he's pure playing.

724
00:33:25,754 --> 00:33:27,834
Speaker 2: Really well, so taking off the training wheels.

725
00:33:27,914 --> 00:33:29,994
Speaker 6: Like the first game he runs for nineteen yards and

726
00:33:30,034 --> 00:33:32,434
Speaker 6: we're like, whoa, this is a party. You know, you're

727
00:33:32,434 --> 00:33:35,674
Speaker 6: not necessarily well he'll learn to slip. Well, he's got

728
00:33:35,674 --> 00:33:36,034
Speaker 6: to learn.

729
00:33:36,314 --> 00:33:40,554
Speaker 2: I think there are times and there was one play

730
00:33:40,594 --> 00:33:44,594
Speaker 2: where I think this came into play. Where you're going down,

731
00:33:44,994 --> 00:33:48,074
Speaker 2: if you haven't already slid, and there's a lot of

732
00:33:48,114 --> 00:33:50,714
Speaker 2: guys around you, you're better off just lowering your shoulder

733
00:33:50,714 --> 00:33:53,194
Speaker 2: and being the hammer, because when you slide with that

734
00:33:53,314 --> 00:33:57,514
Speaker 2: many people around you, what's exposed is your head and

735
00:33:58,234 --> 00:34:00,354
Speaker 2: that's where you're gonna get hit. So you're better off

736
00:34:00,434 --> 00:34:03,154
Speaker 2: just put your shoulder into a guy and going down

737
00:34:03,354 --> 00:34:05,234
Speaker 2: and being the hammer and not the nail.

738
00:34:05,394 --> 00:34:07,514
Speaker 5: I do wonder if the concussions in his head a

739
00:34:07,554 --> 00:34:09,993
Speaker 5: little bit in terms of like I slid and then

740
00:34:10,434 --> 00:34:12,594
Speaker 5: I got hit in the head and then I got

741
00:34:12,594 --> 00:34:15,634
Speaker 5: pulled out of a game. But the sliding, I agree

742
00:34:15,634 --> 00:34:17,714
Speaker 5: with you guys that it's something that he needs to

743
00:34:17,754 --> 00:34:20,154
Speaker 5: do a little bit better. But to me, like the

744
00:34:20,234 --> 00:34:24,754
Speaker 5: interception just can't happen. Yeah, It's like if he throws

745
00:34:24,754 --> 00:34:26,834
Speaker 5: a pick like he did in against Houston where he

746
00:34:26,874 --> 00:34:29,314
Speaker 5: just airmails the crosser and it's just a bad throw,

747
00:34:29,394 --> 00:34:31,674
Speaker 5: like that happens like it was the right read. It

748
00:34:31,754 --> 00:34:33,873
Speaker 5: was just a bad throw. You know, I'm cool with it,

749
00:34:33,913 --> 00:34:36,673
Speaker 5: but you can't you can't be having, sorry, the mac

750
00:34:36,754 --> 00:34:39,834
Speaker 5: Jones interceptions right like the one there or the one

751
00:34:40,154 --> 00:34:42,873
Speaker 5: you know in Tennessee on third down where he just

752
00:34:42,913 --> 00:34:45,074
Speaker 5: throws it right to the linebacker, like those are the

753
00:34:45,114 --> 00:34:47,913
Speaker 5: safety Excuse me, like you just can't have those types

754
00:34:47,953 --> 00:34:50,074
Speaker 5: of plays, like those are the ones they have to eliminate.

755
00:34:50,194 --> 00:34:52,754
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, eight five to five past five hundred.

756
00:34:52,873 --> 00:34:56,194
Speaker 2: Is the tpx houtline, web radio at pages dot com?

757
00:34:56,274 --> 00:34:59,393
Speaker 2: Is the email address? Anything else before we open it up?

758
00:35:00,714 --> 00:35:05,554
Speaker 6: No, No, let's celebrate. We've had enough therapy tuesdays.

759
00:35:05,594 --> 00:35:06,873
Speaker 2: Let's celebrate and whatever.

760
00:35:06,994 --> 00:35:08,913
Speaker 5: I have some other downs, we know, because I have

761
00:35:08,953 --> 00:35:10,234
Speaker 5: to be be negative.

762
00:35:10,234 --> 00:35:14,354
Speaker 2: But let's open it up in LA with Chad. What's up? Chad?

763
00:35:16,393 --> 00:35:18,473
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, I'm super stoked about the win.

764
00:35:20,354 --> 00:35:23,234
Speaker 9: My question is a you know, basically about the game,

765
00:35:23,393 --> 00:35:26,834
Speaker 9: like you kind of answered it a ready, But you know,

766
00:35:26,873 --> 00:35:30,873
Speaker 9: what would you credit most with how this game was won?

767
00:35:30,994 --> 00:35:35,354
Speaker 9: You know, the coaching defense. Obviously May didn't play as

768
00:35:35,393 --> 00:35:38,794
Speaker 9: well as you know we would like to see him play.

769
00:35:39,314 --> 00:35:42,674
Speaker 9: You know, was the Chicago doing so poorly and like,

770
00:35:42,834 --> 00:35:46,513
Speaker 9: does everything have to kind of be perfect for us

771
00:35:46,514 --> 00:35:48,913
Speaker 9: in order to have these kinds of wins throughout the

772
00:35:48,953 --> 00:35:52,074
Speaker 9: rest of the season, or you know, is there something

773
00:35:52,114 --> 00:35:53,994
Speaker 9: that we're starting to really do well.

774
00:35:54,473 --> 00:35:57,674
Speaker 2: Well, it was far from perfect from the Patriots standpoint,

775
00:35:57,674 --> 00:36:02,074
Speaker 2: but I just think the ineptness of Chicago's offense, you know,

776
00:36:02,194 --> 00:36:06,194
Speaker 2: against the defense just dominating them. That was how you

777
00:36:06,234 --> 00:36:08,914
Speaker 2: won the game. Like Paul said, they scored three points,

778
00:36:08,913 --> 00:36:11,473
Speaker 2: it was over. Once it became ten to three, it

779
00:36:11,554 --> 00:36:12,473
Speaker 2: was basically over.

780
00:36:12,594 --> 00:36:14,594
Speaker 4: It felt like an old Patriots win with the defense,

781
00:36:14,634 --> 00:36:16,954
Speaker 4: where you're just like, not today, these guys aren't moving

782
00:36:16,953 --> 00:36:18,754
Speaker 4: the ball, and I think, like I was a little

783
00:36:18,794 --> 00:36:20,553
Speaker 4: bit hesitant. I think Paul was like, oh, that's it.

784
00:36:20,634 --> 00:36:22,913
Speaker 4: Like I still have not gone back to that point

785
00:36:22,953 --> 00:36:24,354
Speaker 4: where I like, I'm at any.

786
00:36:24,194 --> 00:36:26,394
Speaker 6: Moment I think I said that's it.

787
00:36:26,433 --> 00:36:29,314
Speaker 4: But I was thinking, in hindsight, you're able to. But

788
00:36:29,354 --> 00:36:32,154
Speaker 4: in the context of the game unfolding, I'm with.

789
00:36:32,114 --> 00:36:36,154
Speaker 6: About three minutes left when they decided to not go

790
00:36:36,234 --> 00:36:37,873
Speaker 6: for it on fourth and one and kick the field

791
00:36:37,913 --> 00:36:40,553
Speaker 6: goal or so to make it nineteen to three, and

792
00:36:40,554 --> 00:36:44,834
Speaker 6: it elicited a ranch from No Socks. That's when I

793
00:36:44,913 --> 00:36:48,513
Speaker 6: might have said, Matt, come on, his game is over.

794
00:36:48,873 --> 00:36:51,074
Speaker 2: He wanted to keep going go for the touchdown.

795
00:36:50,873 --> 00:36:52,754
Speaker 6: Because he wanted to make it a three score game.

796
00:36:53,074 --> 00:36:55,914
Speaker 6: I mean, in a real game against a real team.

797
00:36:56,034 --> 00:36:58,234
Speaker 6: I understand what Matt's thinking about, but the way that

798
00:36:58,274 --> 00:37:01,513
Speaker 6: game had unfolded for fifty six minutes, there was no

799
00:37:01,594 --> 00:37:04,314
Speaker 6: way that the Bears were getting two touchdowns and two

800
00:37:04,354 --> 00:37:07,193
Speaker 6: two point conversions in the last four minutes or whatever

801
00:37:07,234 --> 00:37:10,033
Speaker 6: it was after the last field goal. Like, to me,

802
00:37:10,114 --> 00:37:14,834
Speaker 6: it's sort of, you know, game conditions, like there was

803
00:37:14,873 --> 00:37:17,074
Speaker 6: no way Chicago was scoring in the fourth quarter.

804
00:37:17,274 --> 00:37:19,394
Speaker 5: I would just say that if you're looking for something

805
00:37:19,433 --> 00:37:21,953
Speaker 5: that they can really hang their hat on, they can

806
00:37:22,034 --> 00:37:25,274
Speaker 5: really play man coverage on defense, like they really can make.

807
00:37:25,433 --> 00:37:27,154
Speaker 6: I've been so confused as to why they don't do

808
00:37:27,194 --> 00:37:28,593
Speaker 6: it more. I thought they did it a little bit

809
00:37:28,594 --> 00:37:30,314
Speaker 6: against the Jets, and I thought they did it even

810
00:37:30,354 --> 00:37:30,674
Speaker 6: more in this.

811
00:37:30,873 --> 00:37:33,674
Speaker 2: Would we say this was on defense Marcus Jones one

812
00:37:33,674 --> 00:37:34,434
Speaker 2: of his best games?

813
00:37:34,514 --> 00:37:40,033
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he was really sticky. Gonzalez is just is

814
00:37:40,074 --> 00:37:42,593
Speaker 5: he Durell Reeves in his prime? No, But he's good

815
00:37:42,674 --> 00:37:45,673
Speaker 5: enough that against the number one receiver he can shut

816
00:37:45,714 --> 00:37:47,714
Speaker 5: that guy down or at least go toe to toe

817
00:37:47,754 --> 00:37:50,914
Speaker 5: with that player, So you feel good about that matchup.

818
00:37:50,994 --> 00:37:54,033
Speaker 5: And they're actually at the second highest man coverage rate

819
00:37:54,034 --> 00:37:55,954
Speaker 5: in the league at this point, so they are playing

820
00:37:56,234 --> 00:37:59,154
Speaker 5: quite a bit of man coverage almost forty five percent

821
00:37:59,154 --> 00:38:01,914
Speaker 5: of the time. Detroit's the only team that plays more,

822
00:38:02,034 --> 00:38:06,074
Speaker 5: so they're playing a significant amount of man coverage. Especially lately.

823
00:38:06,554 --> 00:38:09,754
Speaker 5: It does seem like Covington is figuring out, this is

824
00:38:09,834 --> 00:38:12,194
Speaker 5: kind of who we are, this is what we're good at,

825
00:38:12,433 --> 00:38:15,074
Speaker 5: and now we have to find wrinkles like Schooler and

826
00:38:15,114 --> 00:38:17,274
Speaker 5: other things to be able to get some pressure on

827
00:38:17,314 --> 00:38:21,033
Speaker 5: the quarterback and find ways to pass rush. So you

828
00:38:21,114 --> 00:38:23,913
Speaker 5: have to say, Okay, what's one thing that is repeatable,

829
00:38:24,034 --> 00:38:26,474
Speaker 5: and they're really good at this, I would say man coverage,

830
00:38:26,514 --> 00:38:28,634
Speaker 5: and you keep on doing that every single week and

831
00:38:28,714 --> 00:38:29,754
Speaker 5: maybe it keeps you in game.

832
00:38:29,834 --> 00:38:33,074
Speaker 2: Thanks Chad, appreciate the call that I like that. Phil

833
00:38:33,354 --> 00:38:35,034
Speaker 2: is in Coventry. What's up, Phil?

834
00:38:37,194 --> 00:38:38,714
Speaker 7: Hey, how you guys doing today?

835
00:38:38,834 --> 00:38:44,114
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just sitting here on my REQUIRER and I

836
00:38:44,194 --> 00:38:48,033
Speaker 2: got from Bobs from having me easy to drink bud

837
00:38:48,114 --> 00:38:52,193
Speaker 2: Light nice, and I was just curious.

838
00:38:52,034 --> 00:38:53,594
Speaker 8: If you guys had heard.

839
00:38:54,034 --> 00:38:56,554
Speaker 7: I guess Seattle released.

840
00:38:56,913 --> 00:38:58,994
Speaker 6: Their Terrell Dodson.

841
00:38:59,074 --> 00:39:03,513
Speaker 7: I believe it's a left tackle. I know we just

842
00:39:03,594 --> 00:39:05,234
Speaker 7: picked up the guy whose name I'm not.

843
00:39:05,154 --> 00:39:08,714
Speaker 2: Going to try. He's a guy from the Ravens.

844
00:39:08,314 --> 00:39:11,354
Speaker 8: But I didn't know if you guys had heard that,

845
00:39:11,514 --> 00:39:13,913
Speaker 8: and what you may think the reason because they just

846
00:39:13,994 --> 00:39:15,473
Speaker 8: cut him.

847
00:39:15,393 --> 00:39:17,993
Speaker 2: All together and hadn't heard that.

848
00:39:18,314 --> 00:39:22,314
Speaker 8: I guess one of their better players or what not

849
00:39:22,433 --> 00:39:22,754
Speaker 8: for a.

850
00:39:22,714 --> 00:39:28,393
Speaker 5: Few years they backer out of Yeah, yeah, I don't

851
00:39:28,393 --> 00:39:28,993
Speaker 5: know happen.

852
00:39:29,074 --> 00:39:30,794
Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw something that McDonald said he.

853
00:39:32,994 --> 00:39:33,674
Speaker 2: We'll look for it.

854
00:39:34,154 --> 00:39:35,913
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

855
00:39:36,674 --> 00:39:40,634
Speaker 5: No, but he got hurt in the game, which is

856
00:39:40,674 --> 00:39:43,593
Speaker 5: a bummer. But I'm actually willing to see more out

857
00:39:43,634 --> 00:39:46,993
Speaker 5: of talkie talkie. I just think that he's got some

858
00:39:47,034 --> 00:39:49,194
Speaker 5: good size to him, like he's a little bit bigger

859
00:39:49,234 --> 00:39:51,754
Speaker 5: than than Ellis and a little bit more assignment sound

860
00:39:51,754 --> 00:39:54,393
Speaker 5: than McMillan was. And uh, it seems like him in

861
00:39:54,473 --> 00:39:56,714
Speaker 5: Tavai are close off the field too, and they kind

862
00:39:56,714 --> 00:39:59,354
Speaker 5: of got that that some owen thing going a little bit.

863
00:39:59,514 --> 00:40:01,953
Speaker 5: So I would like to see a little bit more.

864
00:40:01,994 --> 00:40:04,073
Speaker 5: Hopefully the hamstring, I think is what it was, isn't

865
00:40:04,114 --> 00:40:05,113
Speaker 5: too serious, so when you.

866
00:40:05,074 --> 00:40:07,073
Speaker 6: Talk about all that kind of stuff, that's why I

867
00:40:07,194 --> 00:40:10,034
Speaker 6: was more impressed with the front in this game. And listen,

868
00:40:10,554 --> 00:40:13,714
Speaker 6: Evan and Mike watched the secondary. You guys are watching

869
00:40:13,754 --> 00:40:16,234
Speaker 6: the coverage on TV We never got to that because

870
00:40:16,393 --> 00:40:19,073
Speaker 6: Caleb Williams got sacked every place, so I didn't get

871
00:40:19,074 --> 00:40:22,474
Speaker 6: to see as much. Matt, in his defense, had Marcus

872
00:40:22,554 --> 00:40:25,354
Speaker 6: Jones on his good list. I was like, because I

873
00:40:25,354 --> 00:40:29,274
Speaker 6: didn't really see him, like, so, I guess I'll take

874
00:40:29,274 --> 00:40:31,274
Speaker 6: a Maya Kulper on that. I'll be I'll be wrong

875
00:40:31,274 --> 00:40:34,114
Speaker 6: on that one. But the Front seven to do what

876
00:40:34,194 --> 00:40:38,354
Speaker 6: it did with U, I mean, did they didn't magically

877
00:40:38,393 --> 00:40:40,354
Speaker 6: get players back in this game. It's all the guys

878
00:40:40,393 --> 00:40:43,794
Speaker 6: that were out and now the guys that came in

879
00:40:43,834 --> 00:40:45,994
Speaker 6: to replace the guys that were out are out.

880
00:40:46,194 --> 00:40:46,354
Speaker 3: You know.

881
00:40:46,433 --> 00:40:49,314
Speaker 6: Christian Ellis, you know, right wrong or indifferent was playing

882
00:40:49,354 --> 00:40:51,433
Speaker 6: a lot of snaps. Ray Kwan McMillan was playing a

883
00:40:51,473 --> 00:40:54,154
Speaker 6: lot of snaps. Those guys aren't there. It's Taki Taki

884
00:40:54,514 --> 00:40:57,513
Speaker 6: really for his first kind of extended play. I mean

885
00:40:57,554 --> 00:40:59,874
Speaker 6: Curtis Jacobs, I know he didn't play that many plays,

886
00:40:59,873 --> 00:41:03,873
Speaker 6: but you know, Curtis Jacobs started, you know, and they

887
00:41:03,873 --> 00:41:06,393
Speaker 6: didn't get run on, you know, I know he came

888
00:41:06,433 --> 00:41:08,513
Speaker 6: out of the game and you know, they made they made,

889
00:41:08,554 --> 00:41:10,394
Speaker 6: they made some adjustments.

890
00:41:09,794 --> 00:41:11,354
Speaker 5: And six naps.

891
00:41:11,634 --> 00:41:15,433
Speaker 6: One of those, Jeremiah Farms was in the backfield like

892
00:41:15,634 --> 00:41:18,114
Speaker 6: every play it seemed. I know it wasn't that, but

893
00:41:18,234 --> 00:41:20,433
Speaker 6: I think you had like five or six tackles three

894
00:41:20,514 --> 00:41:21,194
Speaker 6: for a loss.

895
00:41:21,994 --> 00:41:22,593
Speaker 5: I didn't see.

896
00:41:22,594 --> 00:41:23,234
Speaker 2: These are guys that.

897
00:41:23,234 --> 00:41:25,913
Speaker 6: I don't anticipate being a big part of the you know,

898
00:41:25,953 --> 00:41:26,474
Speaker 6: the equation.

899
00:41:26,834 --> 00:41:29,034
Speaker 4: That's that's the thing to me when you talk about sustainable,

900
00:41:29,034 --> 00:41:31,274
Speaker 4: it's like, well, can Jeremiah Farms do this again? Like

901
00:41:31,314 --> 00:41:33,194
Speaker 4: we talked all year like he's kind of a guy

902
00:41:33,314 --> 00:41:33,993
Speaker 4: thrust into a.

903
00:41:33,953 --> 00:41:35,834
Speaker 6: Roll save the second hour for the reason why. I

904
00:41:35,873 --> 00:41:38,354
Speaker 6: think all these things happen this week. But I'm not

905
00:41:38,393 --> 00:41:41,314
Speaker 6: taking anything away. That was a dominant performance, and you

906
00:41:41,314 --> 00:41:43,914
Speaker 6: can only dominate the team that you're playing.

907
00:41:44,114 --> 00:41:47,234
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought Farms in particular, I didn't notice him

908
00:41:47,234 --> 00:41:50,594
Speaker 5: as much watching it live as I did watching the rewatch,

909
00:41:50,594 --> 00:41:50,834
Speaker 5: and it was.

910
00:41:50,794 --> 00:41:52,034
Speaker 2: Actually very disruptive.

911
00:41:52,194 --> 00:41:55,714
Speaker 5: Girod said it and Monday morning called him out specifically

912
00:41:56,034 --> 00:41:58,274
Speaker 5: and said, you know, it was great to see Farms

913
00:41:58,314 --> 00:42:00,754
Speaker 5: play like that. He was unreal in that game. I

914
00:42:00,754 --> 00:42:03,993
Speaker 5: mean he was back to back run stuff's like on

915
00:42:04,034 --> 00:42:06,194
Speaker 5: their one scoring drive in the red zone to kind

916
00:42:06,194 --> 00:42:08,674
Speaker 5: of put them in third down and getting pressure on

917
00:42:08,714 --> 00:42:10,953
Speaker 5: the quarterback. I was like, this is who is this guy?

918
00:42:10,994 --> 00:42:13,033
Speaker 4: There were so many timely plays too, and I think

919
00:42:13,074 --> 00:42:15,154
Speaker 4: that's how it kind of all came together. And I

920
00:42:15,194 --> 00:42:17,354
Speaker 4: think this happens from time to time with teams, like

921
00:42:17,554 --> 00:42:20,873
Speaker 4: especially good teams, where they just played really well situationally,

922
00:42:20,913 --> 00:42:22,593
Speaker 4: like they make me make some plays, but then they

923
00:42:22,634 --> 00:42:25,393
Speaker 4: counteract it with you know, Farms getting a tackle for

924
00:42:25,473 --> 00:42:28,433
Speaker 4: loss or then you know, making a tackle for loss

925
00:42:28,473 --> 00:42:30,154
Speaker 4: on second down, and now they're in third and long

926
00:42:30,194 --> 00:42:32,194
Speaker 4: and now you're getting off the field. Like everything just

927
00:42:32,274 --> 00:42:33,074
Speaker 4: kind of fit together.

928
00:42:33,114 --> 00:42:33,314
Speaker 3: Well.

929
00:42:33,354 --> 00:42:34,674
Speaker 4: It's hard to reproduce that.

930
00:42:34,873 --> 00:42:37,154
Speaker 6: And again, we talked about it a lot on the

931
00:42:37,154 --> 00:42:39,393
Speaker 6: postgame show. It wasn't just that they played really well

932
00:42:39,433 --> 00:42:42,873
Speaker 6: on defense. Think about the way this game started and

933
00:42:42,913 --> 00:42:44,954
Speaker 6: how different it could have been if the defense played

934
00:42:44,994 --> 00:42:47,913
Speaker 6: similar to the way it has played. When you know,

935
00:42:47,953 --> 00:42:49,714
Speaker 6: you give up a thirty eight yard punt return on

936
00:42:49,754 --> 00:42:52,513
Speaker 6: the after the first drive and the other team takes

937
00:42:52,514 --> 00:42:56,913
Speaker 6: over around midfield and maybe what two possessions later, I

938
00:42:56,953 --> 00:42:59,953
Speaker 6: almost called him Mac Drake throws a pick, you know

939
00:43:00,114 --> 00:43:03,354
Speaker 6: around midfield. They get no points out of these things.

940
00:43:03,674 --> 00:43:05,953
Speaker 6: I think that the first three Bears drives I think

941
00:43:05,994 --> 00:43:10,234
Speaker 6: started at the forty yard line at the Chicago's forty

942
00:43:10,274 --> 00:43:13,394
Speaker 6: yard line or closer and they allowed no points.

943
00:43:13,473 --> 00:43:13,754
Speaker 2: Yeah.

944
00:43:13,794 --> 00:43:16,154
Speaker 6: I mean those are drives that basically all over to

945
00:43:16,194 --> 00:43:19,594
Speaker 6: taken was a first down for Chicago, and you're at

946
00:43:19,674 --> 00:43:21,953
Speaker 6: least getting some points on the board. I think the

947
00:43:21,953 --> 00:43:23,274
Speaker 6: Patriots defense came to play.

948
00:43:23,393 --> 00:43:25,194
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question on the sly case

949
00:43:25,354 --> 00:43:28,033
Speaker 2: that didn't hit the landing zone. Was he trying to

950
00:43:28,034 --> 00:43:30,993
Speaker 2: do something there or did he just simply mis mishit it.

951
00:43:32,393 --> 00:43:34,913
Speaker 6: I kind of assumed that you guys would know more.

952
00:43:35,794 --> 00:43:38,194
Speaker 6: The wind was causing them to maybe do some different things,

953
00:43:38,194 --> 00:43:40,114
Speaker 6: and maybe he just didn't quite get it where it

954
00:43:40,114 --> 00:43:42,354
Speaker 6: came off the tee like like, oh so maybe he

955
00:43:42,433 --> 00:43:43,234
Speaker 6: just mishit.

956
00:43:42,913 --> 00:43:45,953
Speaker 2: It like a top spin like okay, it barely Maybe

957
00:43:45,953 --> 00:43:48,913
Speaker 2: it had enough over guys heads, you know, Yeah, yeah,

958
00:43:48,953 --> 00:43:49,354
Speaker 2: I think.

959
00:43:49,194 --> 00:43:49,914
Speaker 5: It was a mishit.

960
00:43:49,994 --> 00:43:50,794
Speaker 6: Maybe he just mishit.

961
00:43:50,953 --> 00:43:53,073
Speaker 5: But I do think you know, they are they did

962
00:43:53,114 --> 00:43:56,754
Speaker 5: it against Tennessee and overtime like they I know, you know,

963
00:43:56,794 --> 00:44:00,674
Speaker 5: we talk about him on defense, but like schooler is is, they.

964
00:44:00,714 --> 00:44:02,634
Speaker 6: Keep saying that, but every time they do it, it seems

965
00:44:02,674 --> 00:44:04,433
Speaker 6: like the other team just returns it. Like that was

966
00:44:04,473 --> 00:44:07,393
Speaker 6: the one time that they didn't the overtime wanting. But

967
00:44:07,554 --> 00:44:09,553
Speaker 6: they had a kickoff return over the thirty five in

968
00:44:09,594 --> 00:44:12,153
Speaker 6: this game, right, not to mention the thirty eight yard

969
00:44:12,154 --> 00:44:15,234
Speaker 6: part return. I'm not happy with the coverage, no, I

970
00:44:15,274 --> 00:44:17,033
Speaker 6: know that's something they want to hang their hat on

971
00:44:17,074 --> 00:44:20,113
Speaker 6: and girod to your point, Ye've talked about that too,

972
00:44:20,154 --> 00:44:22,673
Speaker 6: like you know, really good, Like I don't see it

973
00:44:22,994 --> 00:44:25,194
Speaker 6: stand a lane, I don't see it there.

974
00:44:25,274 --> 00:44:27,314
Speaker 5: Great and out well on special teams as a whole,

975
00:44:27,834 --> 00:44:30,553
Speaker 5: punt coverages. I think their biggest issue right now. They're

976
00:44:30,554 --> 00:44:33,073
Speaker 5: giving up a lot of big punt returns. But they've

977
00:44:33,074 --> 00:44:36,513
Speaker 5: been aiming kicks like into Schooler's lane and then just

978
00:44:36,594 --> 00:44:39,194
Speaker 5: letting him just shoot out of a cannon and make

979
00:44:39,234 --> 00:44:43,194
Speaker 5: sticks on the ball. And you know he's the punt

980
00:44:43,433 --> 00:44:45,234
Speaker 5: He's one of the best special teams players in the league.

981
00:44:45,314 --> 00:44:48,954
Speaker 6: The punt return game has been really, really good. Yeah,

982
00:44:49,393 --> 00:44:52,594
Speaker 6: so that might be one guy that most electric returner

983
00:44:52,594 --> 00:44:54,553
Speaker 6: in the league. I stand by it, okay, but did

984
00:44:54,594 --> 00:44:58,354
Speaker 6: they I think that's why they're grading out so high

985
00:44:58,433 --> 00:45:00,274
Speaker 6: is their punt returns. This is like three or four

986
00:45:00,274 --> 00:45:02,394
Speaker 6: weeks in a row now where they're getting significant plays

987
00:45:02,393 --> 00:45:03,234
Speaker 6: in the punt return game.

988
00:45:04,234 --> 00:45:06,394
Speaker 2: Uh, We'll do one more call and we'll take a break.

989
00:45:06,754 --> 00:45:08,514
Speaker 2: Vinnie's in Vegas. What's up, Vinnie?

990
00:45:10,473 --> 00:45:13,834
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, I I was gonna ask about the line,

991
00:45:13,873 --> 00:45:18,114
Speaker 7: but you know, I wanted to ask you guys. Was

992
00:45:18,154 --> 00:45:22,393
Speaker 7: the Brandon Schooler one of those Bill moments where they

993
00:45:22,473 --> 00:45:25,073
Speaker 7: actually saw a weakness and said, Okay, let's use this guy.

994
00:45:25,674 --> 00:45:28,634
Speaker 7: Or was this more of a need because our you know,

995
00:45:29,674 --> 00:45:31,033
Speaker 7: our linebackers are not.

996
00:45:31,554 --> 00:45:34,873
Speaker 6: They don't have enough linebackers to play. But but they've.

997
00:45:34,674 --> 00:45:37,434
Speaker 2: Been fooling around with Schooler on defense since training camp.

998
00:45:37,594 --> 00:45:39,473
Speaker 6: That's the first five defensive snaps he's gotten.

999
00:45:39,554 --> 00:45:39,794
Speaker 10: I know.

1000
00:45:39,913 --> 00:45:42,634
Speaker 2: But back in training camp we said, oh, but.

1001
00:45:43,314 --> 00:45:47,354
Speaker 6: They were down McMillan, No, I know, Elis. But now

1002
00:45:47,473 --> 00:45:48,514
Speaker 6: you said taki taky.

1003
00:45:49,274 --> 00:45:52,394
Speaker 2: But you know we used to we used to pack someone.

1004
00:45:53,034 --> 00:45:55,074
Speaker 2: Remember they were using him in training camp.

1005
00:45:55,194 --> 00:45:56,634
Speaker 6: No one's patting them on the back for this.

1006
00:45:56,794 --> 00:46:00,234
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying like that's that's where it might

1007
00:46:00,274 --> 00:46:01,073
Speaker 2: have originated.

1008
00:46:01,393 --> 00:46:03,913
Speaker 6: No, but I'm just saying the amount of attention that

1009
00:46:03,953 --> 00:46:06,953
Speaker 6: those five players have gotten is through the roof. You

1010
00:46:06,994 --> 00:46:08,433
Speaker 6: can't say that that's flown under the rail.

1011
00:46:08,554 --> 00:46:11,274
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it is. I'm just saying that. You know,

1012
00:46:11,433 --> 00:46:13,234
Speaker 2: you said, Oh, the only reason he was out there

1013
00:46:13,274 --> 00:46:16,554
Speaker 2: is because the need correct But they they were thinking

1014
00:46:16,634 --> 00:46:18,874
Speaker 2: about him for defense since training camp.

1015
00:46:18,994 --> 00:46:21,553
Speaker 6: Yes, but that's what you do, okay, in case we

1016
00:46:21,594 --> 00:46:23,473
Speaker 6: lose four guys, we need someone.

1017
00:46:23,234 --> 00:46:25,194
Speaker 2: What sight coaching?

1018
00:46:25,953 --> 00:46:29,033
Speaker 6: I would just the coaching was outstanding in this game.

1019
00:46:29,074 --> 00:46:30,473
Speaker 6: I mean how many different times do you have to

1020
00:46:30,473 --> 00:46:30,754
Speaker 6: say it?

1021
00:46:30,794 --> 00:46:33,114
Speaker 5: I just I think need is like, I mean, I

1022
00:46:33,154 --> 00:46:35,553
Speaker 5: don't know, like they're playing a quarterback in Caleb whose

1023
00:46:35,554 --> 00:46:39,473
Speaker 5: specialty is scrambling and is improvising. Andy he said it

1024
00:46:39,514 --> 00:46:41,953
Speaker 5: after the game, Schooler did it. They watched all of

1025
00:46:41,994 --> 00:46:46,674
Speaker 5: his extended dropbacks, all thirty six of them over six seconds,

1026
00:46:46,873 --> 00:46:48,914
Speaker 5: and they knew that that was something that they couldn't

1027
00:46:48,953 --> 00:46:51,274
Speaker 5: let him do because if they made him play quarterback

1028
00:46:51,314 --> 00:46:53,714
Speaker 5: from the pocket, then he was gonna go and we

1029
00:46:53,794 --> 00:46:56,394
Speaker 5: want guy here, let's let's try it. Yeah.

1030
00:46:56,514 --> 00:46:57,754
Speaker 2: I like the innovation.

1031
00:46:58,594 --> 00:46:59,993
Speaker 6: I would have liked it if it came on the

1032
00:46:59,994 --> 00:47:01,634
Speaker 6: first third down of the game, because that would have

1033
00:47:01,634 --> 00:47:05,114
Speaker 6: told me they saw something they identified this guy is

1034
00:47:05,114 --> 00:47:07,554
Speaker 6: the is the antidote to it? Yeah, But it didn't

1035
00:47:07,554 --> 00:47:09,913
Speaker 6: happen until everybody else was sort of knocked out of

1036
00:47:09,953 --> 00:47:11,794
Speaker 6: the game and then they said, okay, school will go

1037
00:47:11,834 --> 00:47:13,274
Speaker 6: ahead and base him around.

1038
00:47:13,314 --> 00:47:14,274
Speaker 2: But it is true.

1039
00:47:14,354 --> 00:47:16,354
Speaker 5: No, it's not. Taki talking didn't get hurt until the

1040
00:47:16,354 --> 00:47:17,234
Speaker 5: fourth quarter.

1041
00:47:17,074 --> 00:47:18,274
Speaker 6: And that's when this guy came in.

1042
00:47:18,393 --> 00:47:20,154
Speaker 5: No, it's not, No, it's not.

1043
00:47:21,514 --> 00:47:24,514
Speaker 6: He didn't play in the first half. Yurtis Jacob started.

1044
00:47:24,794 --> 00:47:27,993
Speaker 5: Okay, but this was laid down in the first half,

1045
00:47:28,034 --> 00:47:30,674
Speaker 5: and he played on the on the play, so it's just.

1046
00:47:31,114 --> 00:47:36,113
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm wrong, I don't I didn't remember seeing

1047
00:47:36,154 --> 00:47:39,913
Speaker 6: him this on the five plays that reinvented football, I

1048
00:47:39,913 --> 00:47:42,074
Speaker 6: didn't remember him seeing him until the second half. I

1049
00:47:42,274 --> 00:47:44,354
Speaker 6: stay corrected if one of them was in the first.

1050
00:47:45,074 --> 00:47:48,034
Speaker 6: But you know, he made two really, really good plays.

1051
00:47:48,034 --> 00:47:50,674
Speaker 6: I'm not taking the plays away from him. I'm just saying, like,

1052
00:47:51,074 --> 00:47:52,553
Speaker 6: do we have to do this all the time?

1053
00:47:52,754 --> 00:47:56,834
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, again.

1054
00:47:56,913 --> 00:47:58,553
Speaker 6: And I hated it when you made a shrine to

1055
00:47:58,594 --> 00:48:00,794
Speaker 6: the old coach, so I'm gonna I'm going to be

1056
00:48:00,913 --> 00:48:01,514
Speaker 6: very consistent.

1057
00:48:01,794 --> 00:48:03,913
Speaker 5: He's just not you know, I've just been waiting for

1058
00:48:03,994 --> 00:48:07,794
Speaker 5: this coaching staff to do something cool. They did something cool, right,

1059
00:48:07,913 --> 00:48:09,794
Speaker 5: Like all year long, I've been saying.

1060
00:48:09,674 --> 00:48:09,834
Speaker 1: Like.

1061
00:48:11,834 --> 00:48:13,594
Speaker 6: Mike, who was my who was my first good in

1062
00:48:13,634 --> 00:48:16,873
Speaker 6: the good list this week. DeMarcus Covington, I think it

1063
00:48:16,953 --> 00:48:19,913
Speaker 6: was far and away the most impressive defensive game plan

1064
00:48:19,953 --> 00:48:21,993
Speaker 6: that they've put together because they did a lot of

1065
00:48:22,034 --> 00:48:25,714
Speaker 6: different things, and you know, ironically, they kind of played

1066
00:48:25,754 --> 00:48:28,754
Speaker 6: a very like same defense for most of the game. Right,

1067
00:48:29,074 --> 00:48:34,194
Speaker 6: they play a lot of in yeha man. So I

1068
00:48:34,314 --> 00:48:38,594
Speaker 6: just think of what they did. Completely shut down Chicago,

1069
00:48:39,393 --> 00:48:42,633
Speaker 6: all right. This was This wasn't like the other team

1070
00:48:42,714 --> 00:48:45,634
Speaker 6: dropped seven passes, the other team missed two field goals,

1071
00:48:45,794 --> 00:48:47,754
Speaker 6: the other team fumbled as they were going into the

1072
00:48:47,873 --> 00:48:50,993
Speaker 6: end zone. This was like, just you shut down the team.

1073
00:48:51,034 --> 00:48:53,754
Speaker 6: They got one hundred and forty yards. This was defense.

1074
00:48:54,913 --> 00:48:56,834
Speaker 6: Like that's to me, was the difference in the game

1075
00:48:56,953 --> 00:49:00,194
Speaker 6: is you shut them down. They didn't just stop themselves.

1076
00:49:00,274 --> 00:49:02,633
Speaker 2: And to celebrate that, Paul's Food is here.

1077
00:49:02,834 --> 00:49:10,234
Speaker 5: First quarter, I already took the lpha.

1078
00:49:10,074 --> 00:49:12,674
Speaker 2: That all right, Paul's foods here, So we're gonna take

1079
00:49:12,714 --> 00:49:13,033
Speaker 2: a break.

1080
00:49:13,074 --> 00:49:14,274
Speaker 6: He played a play in the first half.

1081
00:49:14,354 --> 00:49:17,074
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Speaker 3: Yep, thanks to TASE, you know, first and foremost.

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Speaker 13: This is definitely a huge day, obviously in our nation

1111
00:50:53,234 --> 00:50:55,754
Speaker 13: and personally in our household. I just want to personally

1112
00:50:55,834 --> 00:50:59,794
Speaker 13: thank all the veterans for their service, for their sacrifice.

1113
00:51:00,834 --> 00:51:03,633
Speaker 13: Coming from a military background, my grandfather was a chief

1114
00:51:03,674 --> 00:51:05,394
Speaker 13: Massive Sergeant in the Air Force.

1115
00:51:05,473 --> 00:51:07,234
Speaker 3: My mom works Langley Air Force Base.

1116
00:51:08,194 --> 00:51:11,153
Speaker 13: My stepdad, you know, also a veteran, I have nothing

1117
00:51:11,194 --> 00:51:13,794
Speaker 13: but appreciation for everything you do, and I think it's

1118
00:51:13,834 --> 00:51:17,674
Speaker 13: important to say, especially when we have the platform to

1119
00:51:17,754 --> 00:51:21,473
Speaker 13: say something. Moving on to the game, kind of hit

1120
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Speaker 13: on it last night. I thought, overall, you know, the

1121
00:51:25,473 --> 00:51:29,674
Speaker 13: message of physicality and and just moving guys. I thought,

1122
00:51:29,834 --> 00:51:32,714
Speaker 13: you know, when I watched the film, you could see

1123
00:51:32,714 --> 00:51:35,634
Speaker 13: that for the majority of the game. I thought, offensively,

1124
00:51:36,393 --> 00:51:38,393
Speaker 13: we did a good job handling the down guys in

1125
00:51:38,433 --> 00:51:41,513
Speaker 13: the run game, just getting the back started, and it

1126
00:51:41,594 --> 00:51:44,714
Speaker 13: was a start contrast to the game before where you

1127
00:51:44,754 --> 00:51:46,473
Speaker 13: know it was you know, we would get behind the

1128
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Speaker 13: sticks and it would be second and twelve and second

1129
00:51:49,074 --> 00:51:52,194
Speaker 13: and ten second eleven. I thought this week, really, I

1130
00:51:52,194 --> 00:51:55,714
Speaker 13: don't think we had any negative runs in the run game.

1131
00:51:55,754 --> 00:51:57,834
Speaker 13: I think we had a couple of like four or

1132
00:51:57,913 --> 00:52:00,553
Speaker 13: five no games, but no negative runs, and that's the

1133
00:52:00,554 --> 00:52:02,714
Speaker 13: way we have to win this game as a whole.

1134
00:52:03,154 --> 00:52:06,993
Speaker 13: To me, reminded me of the Cincinnati game as far

1135
00:52:07,034 --> 00:52:09,073
Speaker 13: as really controlling the line of scrimmage on both sides

1136
00:52:09,074 --> 00:52:12,114
Speaker 13: of the ball and controlling the time of possession. It

1137
00:52:12,194 --> 00:52:15,513
Speaker 13: was very, very similar to that game. I thought the

1138
00:52:15,554 --> 00:52:17,554
Speaker 13: receivers did a better job, you know, blocking in the

1139
00:52:17,634 --> 00:52:20,873
Speaker 13: run game. You know, they did a good job doing

1140
00:52:20,873 --> 00:52:23,913
Speaker 13: that and then also getting open catch some balls. Thought

1141
00:52:23,994 --> 00:52:27,834
Speaker 13: Drake went out there and made some plays. I think,

1142
00:52:27,913 --> 00:52:30,074
Speaker 13: you know, he'll watch the film and he'll be critical

1143
00:52:30,114 --> 00:52:31,834
Speaker 13: of himself. But at the same time, I think there

1144
00:52:31,834 --> 00:52:34,633
Speaker 13: were some plays that we left out there. The one

1145
00:52:34,634 --> 00:52:37,473
Speaker 13: thing offensively which was disappointing for me was just the

1146
00:52:37,514 --> 00:52:40,153
Speaker 13: red area. I thought, you know, going into the game,

1147
00:52:40,234 --> 00:52:42,513
Speaker 13: out of the last nine drives, you know, we had

1148
00:52:42,514 --> 00:52:45,553
Speaker 13: eight touchdowns in one field goal, and then yesterday to

1149
00:52:45,554 --> 00:52:46,714
Speaker 13: go one for five.

1150
00:52:46,634 --> 00:52:49,914
Speaker 3: Was a step back. But I fully anticipated us getting

1151
00:52:49,913 --> 00:52:50,473
Speaker 3: back on track.

1152
00:52:50,994 --> 00:52:54,714
Speaker 13: We'll definitely make that a point of emphasis this week

1153
00:52:55,074 --> 00:52:57,114
Speaker 13: and going forward as we as we always have.

1154
00:52:57,834 --> 00:52:59,794
Speaker 3: Defensively, I thought the front did a good job.

1155
00:52:59,834 --> 00:53:02,594
Speaker 13: I thought Farms went in there and definitely gave us

1156
00:53:02,594 --> 00:53:04,234
Speaker 13: a spark, so I was happy to see that. But

1157
00:53:04,274 --> 00:53:06,994
Speaker 13: all those guys, especially the interior guys, for the most part,

1158
00:53:07,794 --> 00:53:09,594
Speaker 13: played pretty well. Now there were a few runs that

1159
00:53:09,674 --> 00:53:13,513
Speaker 13: did squeak through, but I thought they did did a decent.

1160
00:53:13,274 --> 00:53:16,913
Speaker 3: Job for us. You know, the edge the edge at times.

1161
00:53:17,114 --> 00:53:18,634
Speaker 13: I wouldn't say it was a problem, but it was

1162
00:53:18,634 --> 00:53:20,433
Speaker 13: a little software than we would have liked it to be.

1163
00:53:20,834 --> 00:53:23,473
Speaker 13: I thought the defensive backs really tried to come up

1164
00:53:23,473 --> 00:53:26,594
Speaker 13: and support some of those plays. Was encouraging to see.

1165
00:53:26,834 --> 00:53:29,114
Speaker 13: I think the young players are definitely growing up. I

1166
00:53:29,154 --> 00:53:31,194
Speaker 13: think Marte is taking a step forward, even though he

1167
00:53:31,234 --> 00:53:34,513
Speaker 13: didn't play that much, especially on early downs. I just

1168
00:53:34,554 --> 00:53:38,714
Speaker 13: think his overall communication and you know, control of the

1169
00:53:38,714 --> 00:53:41,473
Speaker 13: defense continues to improve. While we don't have the other

1170
00:53:41,514 --> 00:53:45,314
Speaker 13: guys in there, but the linebackers went out there and

1171
00:53:45,393 --> 00:53:47,873
Speaker 13: tried to play hard. Dot Jelaanni definitely did a good

1172
00:53:47,953 --> 00:53:51,474
Speaker 13: job with the front adjustments and that communication, and also

1173
00:53:51,554 --> 00:53:53,674
Speaker 13: you know, obviously coming up with the big play as

1174
00:53:53,714 --> 00:53:56,354
Speaker 13: far as the sack special teams. Marcus continues to be

1175
00:53:56,354 --> 00:53:59,953
Speaker 13: a huge weapon for us, our punter, huge weapon for us,

1176
00:53:59,953 --> 00:54:02,154
Speaker 13: our kicker, huge weapon for us. You know, to be

1177
00:54:02,194 --> 00:54:05,073
Speaker 13: able to go out there and kick a perfect game

1178
00:54:05,154 --> 00:54:08,033
Speaker 13: four for four with Joey Slye. And then you know,

1179
00:54:08,154 --> 00:54:10,274
Speaker 13: after that first point, I thought Bryce really settled in

1180
00:54:10,433 --> 00:54:12,834
Speaker 13: and you know, his confidence is where we wanted to be,

1181
00:54:12,873 --> 00:54:15,154
Speaker 13: where we needed to be, and we're going to definitely

1182
00:54:15,234 --> 00:54:17,593
Speaker 13: lean on him as far as a guy that can

1183
00:54:17,634 --> 00:54:20,194
Speaker 13: flip the field for us. I'm saying that, you know,

1184
00:54:20,234 --> 00:54:22,674
Speaker 13: our punk coverage, especially in that first one, we have

1185
00:54:22,754 --> 00:54:23,673
Speaker 13: to do a better job.

1186
00:54:23,953 --> 00:54:27,953
Speaker 3: And this is I say it every single week.

1187
00:54:27,994 --> 00:54:30,714
Speaker 13: We have to continue to improve, and we have to

1188
00:54:30,714 --> 00:54:34,034
Speaker 13: improve fast because these other teams are watching that stuff

1189
00:54:34,034 --> 00:54:36,554
Speaker 13: on film as well, and so as we continue to

1190
00:54:36,594 --> 00:54:38,393
Speaker 13: go through the self scout and stuff like that, or

1191
00:54:38,473 --> 00:54:41,674
Speaker 13: even watching this tape, there are definitely things that we

1192
00:54:41,794 --> 00:54:43,713
Speaker 13: have to do better. Now I'm closing, I would say

1193
00:54:44,314 --> 00:54:46,034
Speaker 13: like this is you know wor at this point in

1194
00:54:46,034 --> 00:54:47,194
Speaker 13: the season, this is.

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Speaker 3: Who we are. We have to go out there. We

1196
00:54:49,594 --> 00:54:51,274
Speaker 3: have to control a line of scrimmage, we have to

1197
00:54:51,314 --> 00:54:52,754
Speaker 3: be able to run the ball, we have to stay

1198
00:54:52,754 --> 00:54:54,834
Speaker 3: ahead of the sticks. We have to play good defense.

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Speaker 13: We have to get off the field on third down,

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Speaker 13: which we did yesterday by a mix of generating pressure

1201
00:55:00,594 --> 00:55:03,194
Speaker 13: and also coverage, and play good special teams.

1202
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Speaker 3: And this is the formula. And as I always say,

1203
00:55:05,873 --> 00:55:06,873
Speaker 3: I use this as.

1204
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Speaker 13: A microphone not only to give you guys information but

1205
00:55:09,714 --> 00:55:10,994
Speaker 13: also to talk to the players.

1206
00:55:11,114 --> 00:55:17,194
Speaker 3: So players, this is how we need to play going forward.

1207
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Speaker 3: That would open up for questions. We'll start with Mike

1208
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Speaker 3: follow like Chris Ryan Girod.

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00:55:22,314 --> 00:55:25,114
Speaker 14: My question is on the new player Yank and Goku

1210
00:55:25,754 --> 00:55:28,354
Speaker 14: and I'm curious if he's met with the team yet

1211
00:55:29,114 --> 00:55:31,194
Speaker 14: and how you see him mixing in.

1212
00:55:32,354 --> 00:55:34,394
Speaker 3: Yeah, excited to get Janick here.

1213
00:55:34,514 --> 00:55:36,913
Speaker 13: You know, I've watched him on tape for a very

1214
00:55:36,953 --> 00:55:39,033
Speaker 13: long time and he's been a very productive player in

1215
00:55:39,034 --> 00:55:42,274
Speaker 13: this league. He has not met with the team yet,

1216
00:55:42,953 --> 00:55:44,874
Speaker 13: and saying that, you know he'll get with the coaches

1217
00:55:44,913 --> 00:55:48,154
Speaker 13: here soon and I'm excited to really teach him to

1218
00:55:48,154 --> 00:55:50,794
Speaker 13: playbook and excited to see what he would bring to

1219
00:55:50,834 --> 00:55:51,834
Speaker 13: this team.

1220
00:55:52,074 --> 00:55:53,314
Speaker 3: Look, he's not just a passer.

1221
00:55:53,393 --> 00:55:54,993
Speaker 13: I'm sure this guy has the skill set to be

1222
00:55:54,994 --> 00:55:57,354
Speaker 13: able to play on all three downs, which which is

1223
00:55:57,393 --> 00:56:00,674
Speaker 13: always exciting. And you know, kudos to you know, the

1224
00:56:00,674 --> 00:56:03,194
Speaker 13: scouting department and all those guys for always trying to

1225
00:56:03,194 --> 00:56:05,794
Speaker 13: improve our roster. And we see this as a way

1226
00:56:05,834 --> 00:56:08,154
Speaker 13: of improving us now and going forward.

1227
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Speaker 14: And just a quick follow up, have you had a

1228
00:56:10,154 --> 00:56:12,194
Speaker 14: chance or has anyone had a chance to connect with

1229
00:56:12,274 --> 00:56:14,994
Speaker 14: him to just see, you know, how he feels about

1230
00:56:15,034 --> 00:56:16,514
Speaker 14: coming to the Patriots.

1231
00:56:16,994 --> 00:56:19,154
Speaker 13: Yeah, I've had a chance to connect with them, and

1232
00:56:19,194 --> 00:56:22,634
Speaker 13: I would say multiple coaches have also defensive coaches.

1233
00:56:22,674 --> 00:56:24,834
Speaker 3: I've connected with them, and he's excited for the opportunity.

1234
00:56:24,994 --> 00:56:33,634
Speaker 10: So Chris, Ryan White, and Steel and you're ontoball as

1235
00:56:33,634 --> 00:56:36,634
Speaker 10: well with you you mentioned earlier, you know this was

1236
00:56:36,794 --> 00:56:39,434
Speaker 10: probably the best all round game since Week one, particularly

1237
00:56:39,554 --> 00:56:42,593
Speaker 10: game to controlling both lines of a scrimmage on both

1238
00:56:42,594 --> 00:56:45,154
Speaker 10: sides of the ball. Why do you think you know

1239
00:56:45,594 --> 00:56:48,354
Speaker 10: this week you guys were able to kind of execute

1240
00:56:48,354 --> 00:56:51,593
Speaker 10: that vision that you have had very explicitly out there

1241
00:56:51,674 --> 00:56:52,593
Speaker 10: for the group.

1242
00:56:53,834 --> 00:56:56,034
Speaker 3: I'marn Chris, I'm not sure.

1243
00:56:56,154 --> 00:56:58,194
Speaker 13: You know you always it's the same thing you know

1244
00:56:59,034 --> 00:57:02,074
Speaker 13: last night I spoke about, you know, polking. You know,

1245
00:57:02,154 --> 00:57:05,194
Speaker 13: sometimes those rookies reach reaching a point of inflection and

1246
00:57:05,234 --> 00:57:06,794
Speaker 13: you just don't know when that point is going to

1247
00:57:06,834 --> 00:57:09,513
Speaker 13: be that's also applicable to a team that's also applicable

1248
00:57:09,554 --> 00:57:11,234
Speaker 13: to a certain side.

1249
00:57:10,994 --> 00:57:13,393
Speaker 3: Of the ball. And you know, I guess now, you know,

1250
00:57:14,154 --> 00:57:15,314
Speaker 3: we'll wrap this game up.

1251
00:57:15,314 --> 00:57:18,874
Speaker 13: But it's about knowing what the formula is and now

1252
00:57:18,914 --> 00:57:21,754
Speaker 13: applying it on a game after game basis, and we

1253
00:57:21,874 --> 00:57:24,034
Speaker 13: have to learn how to string wins together. And that's

1254
00:57:24,034 --> 00:57:26,554
Speaker 13: going to be my message today and going forward.

1255
00:57:27,354 --> 00:57:30,314
Speaker 10: Part of the formul obviously was having your younger players

1256
00:57:30,474 --> 00:57:33,674
Speaker 10: play instead of the veterans at wide receiver. Do you

1257
00:57:33,754 --> 00:57:36,394
Speaker 10: see that being the same with that position.

1258
00:57:36,074 --> 00:57:36,794
Speaker 15: Group moving forward?

1259
00:57:36,834 --> 00:57:39,954
Speaker 10: And could that also be in other position groups where

1260
00:57:40,434 --> 00:57:43,714
Speaker 10: you veterans are kind of pushed aside, if you will,

1261
00:57:43,834 --> 00:57:47,034
Speaker 10: for to see what younger players can do with enhanced roles.

1262
00:57:47,554 --> 00:57:49,674
Speaker 13: Yeah, My goal, you know, as the head coach is

1263
00:57:49,714 --> 00:57:51,754
Speaker 13: to put the players out there that give us the

1264
00:57:51,754 --> 00:57:55,234
Speaker 13: best chance to win. Elliott and his staff, you know,

1265
00:57:55,354 --> 00:57:58,194
Speaker 13: they have the hard part of trying to get the

1266
00:57:58,274 --> 00:58:00,594
Speaker 13: rosters as well as we can get it now, but

1267
00:58:00,674 --> 00:58:01,914
Speaker 13: also looking for the future.

1268
00:58:02,194 --> 00:58:05,514
Speaker 3: Ultimately is my decision and my decision from on.

1269
00:58:05,394 --> 00:58:07,354
Speaker 13: A week after week basis to you know, put the

1270
00:58:07,394 --> 00:58:09,874
Speaker 13: best players out there that give us the best chance

1271
00:58:09,914 --> 00:58:10,194
Speaker 13: to win.

1272
00:58:11,034 --> 00:58:18,234
Speaker 3: Thank you. Thanks in steel FULWI to cod A Randam.

1273
00:58:16,354 --> 00:58:21,634
Speaker 15: Mornan Gerard checking you, thanks and thanks for the Veterans

1274
00:58:21,754 --> 00:58:27,794
Speaker 15: Day comments earlier as well. On Drake May, what did

1275
00:58:27,794 --> 00:58:30,354
Speaker 15: you see from him this week in terms of his

1276
00:58:30,674 --> 00:58:33,394
Speaker 15: vocal leadership, He said that's something that he's been trying

1277
00:58:33,434 --> 00:58:35,434
Speaker 15: to work on as he started to blame more.

1278
00:58:36,714 --> 00:58:40,634
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think, look, this is part of the evolution

1279
00:58:40,754 --> 00:58:44,034
Speaker 13: of Drake and this is something that we've discussed behind

1280
00:58:44,034 --> 00:58:46,474
Speaker 13: closed doors, and I thought he did a good job.

1281
00:58:46,554 --> 00:58:49,474
Speaker 13: You know, not only you know, going out there executing

1282
00:58:49,514 --> 00:58:53,234
Speaker 13: in practice, but also you know, having those player only meetings,

1283
00:58:53,274 --> 00:58:55,594
Speaker 13: and that's what we need from We need that. And

1284
00:58:55,834 --> 00:58:58,474
Speaker 13: you know, anytime you have a quarterback that is as

1285
00:58:58,554 --> 00:59:01,194
Speaker 13: level headed and you know as a smart guy and

1286
00:59:01,674 --> 00:59:05,474
Speaker 13: a competitor all those things and a leader, there's no

1287
00:59:05,594 --> 00:59:07,834
Speaker 13: perfect time to do anything.

1288
00:59:07,914 --> 00:59:09,754
Speaker 3: So we just said, hey, let's just do it right now.

1289
00:59:09,794 --> 00:59:12,274
Speaker 13: And he's done an excellent job there and I look

1290
00:59:12,274 --> 00:59:13,994
Speaker 13: forward to seeing that progress going forward.

1291
00:59:16,394 --> 00:59:18,114
Speaker 3: The cord Renal Fall by Sophie.

1292
00:59:17,914 --> 00:59:24,354
Speaker 15: Rowland, Rodin Seins, Michael Hasty outstaped, Antonio Gibson. The last

1293
00:59:24,354 --> 00:59:26,474
Speaker 15: couple of weeks, just what I'm wondering you know what

1294
00:59:26,554 --> 00:59:28,474
Speaker 15: the reasoning has been for that shift.

1295
00:59:29,954 --> 00:59:31,954
Speaker 13: I would just say all three of uh, you know,

1296
00:59:31,994 --> 00:59:34,554
Speaker 13: all three of those backs, you know, bring something different

1297
00:59:34,594 --> 00:59:38,074
Speaker 13: to the table. And again just the last couple of weeks,

1298
00:59:38,674 --> 00:59:41,073
Speaker 13: it was more of a hasty game than a gibbie game.

1299
00:59:41,154 --> 00:59:45,874
Speaker 13: And that that is a week after week discussion, not

1300
00:59:45,994 --> 00:59:48,914
Speaker 13: only at the backspot, but at multiple positions on this team.

1301
00:59:49,794 --> 00:59:54,554
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks Sophie roller By Mike cheer.

1302
00:59:56,034 --> 01:00:00,474
Speaker 16: Hey, Rod, I was just curious throughout the beginning of

1303
01:00:00,514 --> 01:00:02,874
Speaker 16: the week. Last week we saw Michael Wanno taking snaps

1304
01:00:02,874 --> 01:00:05,154
Speaker 16: at left guard, but then the game you had him

1305
01:00:05,194 --> 01:00:07,634
Speaker 16: at right guard. Just kind of what went into that

1306
01:00:07,794 --> 01:00:11,354
Speaker 16: decision to move him around so much last week but

1307
01:00:11,434 --> 01:00:12,474
Speaker 16: ultimately put him at right.

1308
01:00:13,834 --> 01:00:16,194
Speaker 13: Yeah, it just goes back to what's the best lineup

1309
01:00:16,234 --> 01:00:18,714
Speaker 13: that gives us the best opportunity to get moving up

1310
01:00:18,714 --> 01:00:19,954
Speaker 13: front and protect the quarterback.

1311
01:00:20,074 --> 01:00:22,634
Speaker 3: And uh, that's what we that's what we thought we

1312
01:00:22,754 --> 01:00:25,674
Speaker 3: were doing. That was the idea behind it.

1313
01:00:27,194 --> 01:00:30,314
Speaker 16: And then just one more I was curious about Kendrick Bourne.

1314
01:00:31,194 --> 01:00:32,874
Speaker 16: I asked you a similar question last week, but it

1315
01:00:32,994 --> 01:00:35,274
Speaker 16: was he was so fired up on the sidelines and

1316
01:00:35,354 --> 01:00:38,394
Speaker 16: even like after the game for Patriots when things like that,

1317
01:00:38,754 --> 01:00:40,154
Speaker 16: What is it like to have a player like that

1318
01:00:40,354 --> 01:00:43,594
Speaker 16: who you know will always be there for his teammates

1319
01:00:43,634 --> 01:00:45,594
Speaker 16: and moments like that, even if he's not necessarily on

1320
01:00:45,674 --> 01:00:45,994
Speaker 16: the field.

1321
01:00:47,154 --> 01:00:47,674
Speaker 3: It's great.

1322
01:00:47,834 --> 01:00:47,954
Speaker 1: You know.

1323
01:00:48,114 --> 01:00:52,354
Speaker 13: It's the selfless attitude that we always talk about. And

1324
01:00:52,394 --> 01:00:55,034
Speaker 13: there's no secret, you know, kb he brings a lot

1325
01:00:55,074 --> 01:00:56,994
Speaker 13: of energy. You know, it starts with a smile and

1326
01:00:57,074 --> 01:00:59,754
Speaker 13: then he always just brings the juice, brings the energy

1327
01:00:59,794 --> 01:01:03,794
Speaker 13: and it's definitely a welcome sight for us here Annoy.

1328
01:01:03,514 --> 01:01:07,634
Speaker 2: England and now great moments in.

1329
01:01:09,914 --> 01:01:10,314
Speaker 3: History.

1330
01:01:10,554 --> 01:01:13,874
Speaker 2: Good lobster bisk is sex. It's like sex for your throat.

1331
01:01:14,154 --> 01:01:17,154
Speaker 2: I do remember saying that. I do remember saying that

1332
01:01:17,834 --> 01:01:23,514
Speaker 2: I don't. But that's even funnier. Thing is like sex

1333
01:01:23,594 --> 01:01:24,113
Speaker 2: for your throat.

1334
01:01:24,554 --> 01:01:27,514
Speaker 6: Pusser was damn yeah, I don't. I wouldn't doubt Dan.

1335
01:01:28,194 --> 01:01:30,874
Speaker 2: If you're looking for a good lobster bisc on the Cape,

1336
01:01:30,954 --> 01:01:35,394
Speaker 2: the Daniel Webster in Sandwich has an excellent okay lobster bisk.

1337
01:01:36,034 --> 01:01:40,554
Speaker 6: You have the the place down the cape. Oh yeah,

1338
01:01:40,594 --> 01:01:41,114
Speaker 6: for everything.

1339
01:01:41,954 --> 01:01:43,834
Speaker 2: Well, if you haven't noticed, they eat out a lot

1340
01:01:44,474 --> 01:01:48,394
Speaker 2: because I don't cook, but my wife doesn't really particularly

1341
01:01:48,514 --> 01:01:51,474
Speaker 2: enjoy it either. So we eat out a lot.

1342
01:01:51,674 --> 01:01:53,394
Speaker 6: But yeah, my wife and I eat out a lot too.

1343
01:01:53,594 --> 01:01:58,474
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I I enjoy the whole thing about eating out.

1344
01:01:58,674 --> 01:02:02,794
Speaker 2: I do you know, I like the sitting down, getting

1345
01:02:02,834 --> 01:02:04,153
Speaker 2: a drink, placing the water.

1346
01:02:04,754 --> 01:02:07,354
Speaker 6: I just you know what I really like when on

1347
01:02:07,554 --> 01:02:10,314
Speaker 6: like a like a Saturday night, especially in the summer,

1348
01:02:10,514 --> 01:02:12,874
Speaker 6: if it's nice out, you get to a place on

1349
01:02:12,954 --> 01:02:16,194
Speaker 6: the water and your table's not ready, and you go

1350
01:02:16,274 --> 01:02:18,394
Speaker 6: to the bar and have you know, maybe a couple

1351
01:02:18,434 --> 01:02:20,434
Speaker 6: of drinks while you're waiting for your table. Yeah, And

1352
01:02:21,034 --> 01:02:23,633
Speaker 6: that that to me is like, see, I don't cut

1353
01:02:23,674 --> 01:02:24,394
Speaker 6: this a couple off.

1354
01:02:24,554 --> 01:02:26,474
Speaker 2: I don't perfect for me. I don't like it. I

1355
01:02:26,554 --> 01:02:28,674
Speaker 2: don't like having to be in a place where I

1356
01:02:28,714 --> 01:02:30,914
Speaker 2: know I'm going to have to move as soon as

1357
01:02:30,954 --> 01:02:32,954
Speaker 2: they call my name. I like to just be where

1358
01:02:32,954 --> 01:02:36,514
Speaker 2: I'm going to be in settle in you fat, No,

1359
01:02:36,674 --> 01:02:38,514
Speaker 2: it's not about lazy now. I don't want to move.

1360
01:02:38,634 --> 01:02:40,234
Speaker 2: That's another great moment.

1361
01:02:42,834 --> 01:02:44,714
Speaker 6: Oh, you know it's not easy, But you know what

1362
01:02:44,914 --> 01:02:46,113
Speaker 6: is easy, bud Light.

1363
01:02:46,714 --> 01:02:49,514
Speaker 2: It's easy to drink, it's easy to enjoy. Bud Light,

1364
01:02:49,714 --> 01:02:52,154
Speaker 2: the official beer sponsor of the New England Patriots, and

1365
01:02:52,234 --> 01:02:54,914
Speaker 2: of course Bob wants to know you know if are

1366
01:02:54,954 --> 01:02:57,674
Speaker 2: you looking to have an epic game day watch party?

1367
01:02:58,114 --> 01:03:01,514
Speaker 2: I think everybody is right sure if you can become

1368
01:03:01,594 --> 01:03:05,834
Speaker 2: a championship host with Bob's Discount Furniture's Fall Dining look

1369
01:03:05,914 --> 01:03:10,234
Speaker 2: book shop party ready styles perfect for any home, whether

1370
01:03:10,274 --> 01:03:13,714
Speaker 2: you're looking for a small space, friendly sets, seating options

1371
01:03:13,754 --> 01:03:17,394
Speaker 2: that will keep you comfy during overtime, or extendable sets

1372
01:03:17,514 --> 01:03:20,834
Speaker 2: ideal for hosting a full lineup of friends. You can

1373
01:03:20,914 --> 01:03:24,274
Speaker 2: even choose from multiple heights, shapes, and colors to match

1374
01:03:24,314 --> 01:03:26,274
Speaker 2: your game day vibe. So stop it and see how

1375
01:03:26,354 --> 01:03:28,634
Speaker 2: much you can say when you dare to compare with

1376
01:03:28,714 --> 01:03:32,274
Speaker 2: Bob's Discount Furniture, the official furniture store of the New

1377
01:03:32,394 --> 01:03:33,394
Speaker 2: England Patriots.

1378
01:03:34,114 --> 01:03:37,714
Speaker 6: So good, dude, what do you think of the summer?

1379
01:03:38,194 --> 01:03:40,634
Speaker 6: Your table's not ready? Going to have some time on

1380
01:03:40,714 --> 01:03:41,914
Speaker 6: the water and enjoy your drink.

1381
01:03:41,994 --> 01:03:43,314
Speaker 4: I love it, and I mean I was gonna push

1382
01:03:43,354 --> 01:03:45,274
Speaker 4: back on front of us. I was like, you check

1383
01:03:45,354 --> 01:03:47,154
Speaker 4: the vibe out on the bar a little bit. You know,

1384
01:03:47,274 --> 01:03:49,194
Speaker 4: you set up, you see what's going on in there,

1385
01:03:49,314 --> 01:03:51,914
Speaker 4: have a drink, close it out, close the tab out,

1386
01:03:52,274 --> 01:03:53,234
Speaker 4: and you head over to the table.

1387
01:03:53,314 --> 01:03:55,914
Speaker 2: Yeah, see all that, you got to close the tab out,

1388
01:03:56,434 --> 01:03:58,794
Speaker 2: just roll it over. Then I just want to sit down.

1389
01:03:58,914 --> 01:04:00,434
Speaker 2: I'll have my drinks at my table.

1390
01:04:01,394 --> 01:04:02,554
Speaker 4: Just leave do like the.

1391
01:04:02,554 --> 01:04:04,474
Speaker 5: Places that let you just roll it, you know, like

1392
01:04:04,594 --> 01:04:05,514
Speaker 5: keep the same tab.

1393
01:04:05,794 --> 01:04:09,434
Speaker 6: Oh, generally that's what they'll don't, you know.

1394
01:04:09,514 --> 01:04:13,154
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. That's the life I heard that. It's

1395
01:04:13,274 --> 01:04:16,714
Speaker 2: not good etiquette when you're at the bar to then

1396
01:04:16,834 --> 01:04:20,074
Speaker 2: walk to your table with your drink, like they should

1397
01:04:20,074 --> 01:04:23,034
Speaker 2: take your drink for you. Like you shouldn't walk through

1398
01:04:23,114 --> 01:04:25,474
Speaker 2: the dining hall with a drink in your hand. It's

1399
01:04:25,474 --> 01:04:26,354
Speaker 2: not good etiquette.

1400
01:04:26,514 --> 01:04:28,674
Speaker 6: Okay, that might be weird if you It depends what

1401
01:04:28,834 --> 01:04:30,594
Speaker 6: kind of place you're I think if you were in

1402
01:04:30,634 --> 01:04:32,194
Speaker 6: a high end restaurant, I would agree with.

1403
01:04:32,234 --> 01:04:34,314
Speaker 4: That kind of place where they set your napkin up

1404
01:04:34,354 --> 01:04:36,634
Speaker 4: for you. Kind of the places you go seven napkin,

1405
01:04:37,514 --> 01:04:38,754
Speaker 4: like when you get up and you come back and

1406
01:04:38,794 --> 01:04:39,354
Speaker 4: someone like that.

1407
01:04:39,474 --> 01:04:39,674
Speaker 5: The bar.

1408
01:04:39,834 --> 01:04:42,113
Speaker 6: I'm on the water here like this the water. It's

1409
01:04:42,154 --> 01:04:45,554
Speaker 6: not like fancy schmancy places. First of all, you know me,

1410
01:04:45,634 --> 01:04:47,073
Speaker 6: what what I eat at a fancy place?

1411
01:04:47,514 --> 01:04:49,073
Speaker 2: But you go in a place, can I get a water?

1412
01:04:49,154 --> 01:04:51,234
Speaker 6: Can I get a burger? Can I get Buffalo wings?

1413
01:04:51,314 --> 01:04:51,514
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1414
01:04:51,554 --> 01:04:53,673
Speaker 6: I don't think getting that in the places that you're

1415
01:04:53,714 --> 01:04:54,554
Speaker 6: describe you going.

1416
01:04:54,394 --> 01:04:56,114
Speaker 2: To places on the water, those are fancy.

1417
01:04:56,274 --> 01:04:58,794
Speaker 4: No, no, but that's where your mind goes to Paul

1418
01:04:58,834 --> 01:05:00,153
Speaker 4: through like it's going to be about a twenty minute

1419
01:05:00,194 --> 01:05:00,754
Speaker 4: wait and you're.

1420
01:05:00,634 --> 01:05:05,794
Speaker 6: Like, midtle Light please, sorry, bud Light place please.

1421
01:05:06,274 --> 01:05:08,834
Speaker 5: Okay, bud Light Seltzer because I can't say the other

1422
01:05:08,874 --> 01:05:09,474
Speaker 5: one apparently.

1423
01:05:10,074 --> 01:05:13,274
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, maybe somebody who is familiar with

1424
01:05:13,394 --> 01:05:14,554
Speaker 2: Emily Post or something.

1425
01:05:14,634 --> 01:05:16,354
Speaker 6: You know, I think what you sell us, what you

1426
01:05:16,434 --> 01:05:18,514
Speaker 6: said makes sense. Yeah, if you're in a nice restaurant,

1427
01:05:18,554 --> 01:05:21,514
Speaker 6: you probably don't want to be walking through a dining area. Yeah,

1428
01:05:21,674 --> 01:05:22,714
Speaker 6: with drinks in your hand.

1429
01:05:22,834 --> 01:05:27,114
Speaker 2: Kind of low class, well class? Okay? Uh, Dana when

1430
01:05:27,194 --> 01:05:30,434
Speaker 2: Chicago writes in on the tpx houtline, can't believe I'm

1431
01:05:30,434 --> 01:05:33,153
Speaker 2: even saying this. But the Patriots are only two games

1432
01:05:33,274 --> 01:05:36,674
Speaker 2: back of the final wildcard spot with seven to go. Gope,

1433
01:05:37,234 --> 01:05:38,274
Speaker 2: do we have any shot?

1434
01:05:40,394 --> 01:05:41,034
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

1435
01:05:41,314 --> 01:05:42,354
Speaker 2: What come on now?

1436
01:05:42,954 --> 01:05:45,314
Speaker 4: But I am I look and I'll say the same

1437
01:05:45,314 --> 01:05:46,954
Speaker 4: stuff I said at the beginning of the season, like

1438
01:05:47,554 --> 01:05:49,474
Speaker 4: I want to see what how Drake does in Miami.

1439
01:05:49,554 --> 01:05:51,154
Speaker 4: How does he deal with playing down there? That's a

1440
01:05:51,194 --> 01:05:53,714
Speaker 4: really hard place to play. Brady struggled there. It's the

1441
01:05:53,794 --> 01:05:55,794
Speaker 4: same thing with Buffalo. I think, you know, we saw

1442
01:05:55,874 --> 01:05:57,554
Speaker 4: Mac go up there and we all took one look

1443
01:05:57,554 --> 01:05:59,594
Speaker 4: at him and like Paul, remember Paul going like he

1444
01:05:59,674 --> 01:06:00,354
Speaker 4: looks cold.

1445
01:06:00,754 --> 01:06:04,194
Speaker 5: Yeah, Buffalo is definitely big, like Miami is more his climate.

1446
01:06:04,314 --> 01:06:04,474
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1447
01:06:04,474 --> 01:06:07,234
Speaker 5: I think he's actually gonna enjoy playing down there. But

1448
01:06:07,394 --> 01:06:09,874
Speaker 5: how do you play in Nordred Park when it's windy

1449
01:06:10,074 --> 01:06:13,194
Speaker 5: and freezing and you're from North Carolina and you've never

1450
01:06:13,274 --> 01:06:14,314
Speaker 5: really left that area?

1451
01:06:14,554 --> 01:06:17,194
Speaker 6: Like that should translate though? His skill set should He's

1452
01:06:17,274 --> 01:06:19,154
Speaker 6: you know, he can run when he needs to, he

1453
01:06:19,194 --> 01:06:20,474
Speaker 6: can throw the ball through the wind.

1454
01:06:20,714 --> 01:06:22,153
Speaker 5: It's almost like he's Josh Allen.

1455
01:06:22,834 --> 01:06:25,354
Speaker 4: His skill set should not play anything like that. I

1456
01:06:25,434 --> 01:06:27,674
Speaker 4: don't really like, I don't know what but mean, but.

1457
01:06:27,874 --> 01:06:30,274
Speaker 6: But the conditions will mean something no matter who he's

1458
01:06:30,274 --> 01:06:37,234
Speaker 6: playing against. And I would just okay, no, no, no, no, no, right,

1459
01:06:37,314 --> 01:06:37,634
Speaker 6: all right.

1460
01:06:38,274 --> 01:06:41,434
Speaker 2: Yvonne writes in from Toronto. She said, key On White's

1461
01:06:41,434 --> 01:06:43,794
Speaker 2: comments hit the nail on the head. We are a

1462
01:06:43,874 --> 01:06:46,914
Speaker 2: young defense forced into a lot of starting positions, and

1463
01:06:46,994 --> 01:06:49,274
Speaker 2: what you guys are seeing is us figuring it out?

1464
01:06:49,554 --> 01:06:52,354
Speaker 2: And I feel we are becoming a more cohesive unit.

1465
01:06:52,794 --> 01:06:55,434
Speaker 2: My question to you is who do you see staying

1466
01:06:55,514 --> 01:06:57,994
Speaker 2: next year? And who will the team upgrade in the

1467
01:06:58,114 --> 01:06:59,234
Speaker 2: draft and free agency.

1468
01:06:59,474 --> 01:07:03,074
Speaker 5: It's a long list on both sides, but nobody can

1469
01:07:03,114 --> 01:07:04,394
Speaker 5: block keyon White one on one.

1470
01:07:04,754 --> 01:07:04,954
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1471
01:07:05,714 --> 01:07:07,994
Speaker 6: Do we everybody think that they were like coming together

1472
01:07:08,114 --> 01:07:12,634
Speaker 6: the week before No, or the week before that. No, No,

1473
01:07:12,754 --> 01:07:15,634
Speaker 6: I mean this, I think they They've been kind of

1474
01:07:15,754 --> 01:07:19,354
Speaker 6: tracking the other way and this was a great bounce

1475
01:07:19,434 --> 01:07:20,154
Speaker 6: back performance.

1476
01:07:20,994 --> 01:07:22,714
Speaker 4: It's just got to be sustainable. And that's I think

1477
01:07:22,754 --> 01:07:25,074
Speaker 4: the big question, you know, just just does Farms have

1478
01:07:25,154 --> 01:07:27,434
Speaker 4: another game like that in him? I mean, but it's

1479
01:07:27,474 --> 01:07:30,714
Speaker 4: more to me just cohesive defense, like and that's what

1480
01:07:30,834 --> 01:07:32,634
Speaker 4: it's supposed to look like. Where they taught you know,

1481
01:07:33,074 --> 01:07:35,434
Speaker 4: the rush and the coverage you're married up and you

1482
01:07:35,514 --> 01:07:38,194
Speaker 4: know the moments when the rush wasn't quite getting there,

1483
01:07:38,274 --> 01:07:41,194
Speaker 4: the coverage was really tight, and you know other moments

1484
01:07:41,234 --> 01:07:42,914
Speaker 4: when there might have been places to be made, the

1485
01:07:43,154 --> 01:07:45,554
Speaker 4: rush was able to impact the quarterback and get him

1486
01:07:45,594 --> 01:07:48,674
Speaker 4: off of you know, his progression. So I don't like,

1487
01:07:48,754 --> 01:07:50,554
Speaker 4: now I'm kind of curious, like that's you know, the

1488
01:07:50,634 --> 01:07:52,074
Speaker 4: last few weeks, I was just kind of like, this

1489
01:07:52,194 --> 01:07:53,754
Speaker 4: is what it is, this is what I'm expecting. Now

1490
01:07:53,794 --> 01:07:55,914
Speaker 4: they've shown that they are capable of this game. I

1491
01:07:56,034 --> 01:07:58,954
Speaker 4: just think it's really hard to play like that every

1492
01:07:58,994 --> 01:08:00,194
Speaker 4: week unless you're really talented.

1493
01:08:00,314 --> 01:08:02,874
Speaker 5: I'm not going to play like that every week, obviously,

1494
01:08:02,994 --> 01:08:05,754
Speaker 5: But I agree with your your point about the structure.

1495
01:08:05,994 --> 01:08:09,034
Speaker 5: Like earlier on in the season, like quarterbacks are getting

1496
01:08:09,074 --> 01:08:11,114
Speaker 5: out of the pocket like crazy and making plays on

1497
01:08:11,234 --> 01:08:13,514
Speaker 5: them on the move and with their legs and things

1498
01:08:13,594 --> 01:08:16,154
Speaker 5: like that. So to keep Caleb bottled up as much

1499
01:08:16,194 --> 01:08:19,514
Speaker 5: as they did, that was a coordinated plan that they

1500
01:08:19,674 --> 01:08:22,274
Speaker 5: executed that I don't think they would have executed it

1501
01:08:22,354 --> 01:08:25,594
Speaker 5: in September. So that part of it is it wasn't

1502
01:08:25,714 --> 01:08:28,914
Speaker 5: just Paul's guys schooler like chasing him down and keeping

1503
01:08:28,954 --> 01:08:32,674
Speaker 5: him in the pocket like a lot of them were,

1504
01:08:32,834 --> 01:08:35,474
Speaker 5: you know the trash compactor, you know, keeping him in

1505
01:08:35,594 --> 01:08:37,554
Speaker 5: the pocket and closing it in on him. You know,

1506
01:08:37,634 --> 01:08:40,794
Speaker 5: Dietrich Wise's first sack was that just hold the ball,

1507
01:08:40,874 --> 01:08:43,113
Speaker 5: hold the ball, and then eventually it all just collapsed

1508
01:08:43,154 --> 01:08:45,874
Speaker 5: on them. So those are plays like their containment and

1509
01:08:45,914 --> 01:08:49,074
Speaker 5: their discipline has improved a lot since the beginning of

1510
01:08:49,114 --> 01:08:49,674
Speaker 5: the season.

1511
01:08:49,554 --> 01:08:52,234
Speaker 2: Matt Wright, since Sundays win really showed me that people's

1512
01:08:52,274 --> 01:08:55,874
Speaker 2: expectations for this front office and coaching staff were way

1513
01:08:55,954 --> 01:08:59,234
Speaker 2: too low in the preseason. Despite the fact that the

1514
01:08:59,274 --> 01:09:02,474
Speaker 2: Patriots have gotten nothing from the draft besides May and

1515
01:09:02,634 --> 01:09:05,874
Speaker 2: free agency, They're probably going to win four or five games.

1516
01:09:06,394 --> 01:09:09,674
Speaker 2: If the Patriots simply started May Day one and fixed

1517
01:09:09,754 --> 01:09:12,914
Speaker 2: one position on offense like O line or wide receiver,

1518
01:09:13,434 --> 01:09:15,554
Speaker 2: or even made them not bottom of the league bad,

1519
01:09:15,994 --> 01:09:19,274
Speaker 2: they would be looking at seven to nine wins. Woolf's

1520
01:09:19,354 --> 01:09:22,514
Speaker 2: drafting was not only way off the consensus media board

1521
01:09:22,834 --> 01:09:25,954
Speaker 2: reaching as a proven statistical problem, but he has zero

1522
01:09:26,034 --> 01:09:29,274
Speaker 2: immediate contributors from rounds two to seven. I don't need

1523
01:09:29,394 --> 01:09:32,194
Speaker 2: rookie OBJ, but can you at least get a rookie

1524
01:09:32,274 --> 01:09:35,514
Speaker 2: Nico Collins. The five to twenty five rule is real.

1525
01:09:35,994 --> 01:09:38,954
Speaker 2: Poke is likely a bust, and this draft class appears

1526
01:09:38,994 --> 01:09:41,514
Speaker 2: to be an F minus Outside of May. They should

1527
01:09:41,514 --> 01:09:44,594
Speaker 2: be thanking May for their job security every week. Wow.

1528
01:09:45,874 --> 01:09:48,274
Speaker 6: Wow, what is the five five things?

1529
01:09:48,634 --> 01:09:49,994
Speaker 2: What's the five to twenty five rule?

1530
01:09:50,114 --> 01:09:50,474
Speaker 5: No idea?

1531
01:09:50,794 --> 01:09:51,194
Speaker 15: What that is?

1532
01:09:51,994 --> 01:09:52,114
Speaker 2: Never?

1533
01:09:52,474 --> 01:09:54,474
Speaker 6: How exactly would they have more? I mean, I wanted

1534
01:09:54,554 --> 01:09:57,194
Speaker 6: Drake May to start Week one, yep, But how would

1535
01:09:57,234 --> 01:09:58,114
Speaker 6: their record be different?

1536
01:09:58,754 --> 01:10:00,954
Speaker 2: He's just saying they would have won some games they lost,

1537
01:10:01,034 --> 01:10:01,314
Speaker 2: so like.

1538
01:10:01,354 --> 01:10:04,834
Speaker 6: Based on what I don't know, I don't know, Like

1539
01:10:06,754 --> 01:10:09,554
Speaker 6: I think Gerrod Mayo and the coaching staff or whoever's

1540
01:10:09,594 --> 01:10:13,514
Speaker 6: decision it was to start Jacoby Brissett, I think was

1541
01:10:13,954 --> 01:10:15,754
Speaker 6: what was in their mind was turnovers.

1542
01:10:16,074 --> 01:10:16,274
Speaker 2: Yep.

1543
01:10:17,594 --> 01:10:21,154
Speaker 6: Drake May have started five games, which is amounted to

1544
01:10:21,674 --> 01:10:24,434
Speaker 6: four games in about a quarter and he's turned the

1545
01:10:24,474 --> 01:10:30,074
Speaker 6: ball over seven times, So why would they have won

1546
01:10:30,154 --> 01:10:32,354
Speaker 6: more games if he had played all of them? Like,

1547
01:10:32,434 --> 01:10:34,034
Speaker 6: you could make an argument they wouldn't have won the

1548
01:10:34,074 --> 01:10:35,434
Speaker 6: first game if Drake may had played it.

1549
01:10:37,274 --> 01:10:42,394
Speaker 2: But how about this scenario, they'd be better prepared for

1550
01:10:42,474 --> 01:10:43,834
Speaker 2: this last seven games.

1551
01:10:45,074 --> 01:10:47,514
Speaker 6: I think he would be playing back. I started the

1552
01:10:47,554 --> 01:10:49,434
Speaker 6: whole thing by saying I would have started Drake May

1553
01:10:49,474 --> 01:10:51,914
Speaker 6: and we won. And I think you can make an

1554
01:10:51,954 --> 01:10:54,394
Speaker 6: argument that they would have won the Miami game. Say,

1555
01:10:55,194 --> 01:10:57,114
Speaker 6: if Drake may had played it, they would have scored

1556
01:10:57,114 --> 01:10:59,714
Speaker 6: more than ten points in that game. I think you

1557
01:10:59,754 --> 01:11:03,234
Speaker 6: can make that argument. But I'm just trying to go

1558
01:11:03,354 --> 01:11:05,274
Speaker 6: off of what he's actually done in the games that

1559
01:11:05,354 --> 01:11:11,074
Speaker 6: he's played. He won once right, and he kind of

1560
01:11:11,314 --> 01:11:13,914
Speaker 6: wasn't a huge part of that win. It was kind

1561
01:11:13,954 --> 01:11:20,114
Speaker 6: of the model that they wanted to have with Jacoby Brissett. Now,

1562
01:11:20,754 --> 01:11:23,434
Speaker 6: if they had played May right from the start, maybe

1563
01:11:23,514 --> 01:11:26,754
Speaker 6: you'd be getting a better version of May. Now if

1564
01:11:26,794 --> 01:11:30,154
Speaker 6: he had these sort of turnovers knocked out of him

1565
01:11:30,154 --> 01:11:31,954
Speaker 6: in the first four or five weeks, I'm just not

1566
01:11:32,114 --> 01:11:35,394
Speaker 6: ready to say they would have won more. May overrated,

1567
01:11:35,594 --> 01:11:40,354
Speaker 6: No May, Perillo, hearts May. That's like if they start

1568
01:11:40,434 --> 01:11:42,154
Speaker 6: to get I think he's going to be great.

1569
01:11:42,354 --> 01:11:45,874
Speaker 5: Yeah, if they get made to play on the plus side,

1570
01:11:46,194 --> 01:11:49,114
Speaker 5: you know, like he did last week in Tennessee with

1571
01:11:49,594 --> 01:11:51,754
Speaker 5: obviously the defense isn't going to dominate like that, but

1572
01:11:52,114 --> 01:11:54,674
Speaker 5: with the line play and the play calling and everything

1573
01:11:54,714 --> 01:11:57,634
Speaker 5: else sort of being what it was against Chicago, Like

1574
01:11:57,994 --> 01:12:00,474
Speaker 5: now you're cooking with something, Like now you got something going,

1575
01:12:01,194 --> 01:12:04,034
Speaker 5: but I I just in order to feel like it's sustainable,

1576
01:12:04,354 --> 01:12:05,914
Speaker 5: like I need Drake to play a little bit better

1577
01:12:05,954 --> 01:12:07,474
Speaker 5: than that, and I need the rest of it to

1578
01:12:07,514 --> 01:12:09,714
Speaker 5: stay the same. Like that's when you know that you

1579
01:12:09,834 --> 01:12:12,634
Speaker 5: have something, you know, brewing with the offense until that point.

1580
01:12:12,914 --> 01:12:14,914
Speaker 2: Being in Fresno, now from now to the end of

1581
01:12:14,954 --> 01:12:18,354
Speaker 2: the season. Would you rather see continuous improvement from the

1582
01:12:18,594 --> 01:12:22,394
Speaker 2: entire coaching staff but Drake plateaus at his current level,

1583
01:12:22,994 --> 01:12:26,474
Speaker 2: or the reverse, Drake continuously improved moves but the coaching

1584
01:12:26,514 --> 01:12:30,674
Speaker 2: staff stagnates where they're currently at. That's a tough question.

1585
01:12:30,714 --> 01:12:32,034
Speaker 5: I don't know why I need to pick either of

1586
01:12:32,114 --> 01:12:32,754
Speaker 5: those options.

1587
01:12:32,794 --> 01:12:35,514
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd rather see Drake continue to get better.

1588
01:12:35,554 --> 01:12:37,714
Speaker 6: Probably that's the bottom line, right I think if Drake

1589
01:12:37,794 --> 01:12:40,114
Speaker 6: continues to get better, it's gonna lift the coaching staff with.

1590
01:12:40,194 --> 01:12:43,834
Speaker 2: Him, right, Yeah, it's hard to Yeah, so I'll take

1591
01:12:43,874 --> 01:12:49,874
Speaker 2: that back at TPX Hotline, Dan Beach, what's up, Danny?

1592
01:12:52,514 --> 01:12:57,874
Speaker 17: Yes, Okay, Well I just got to, uh two takes

1593
01:12:57,914 --> 01:13:01,114
Speaker 17: for you guys today. What do you guys think about

1594
01:13:01,194 --> 01:13:04,914
Speaker 17: the Patriots. They're being linked by Bleacher Report to uh,

1595
01:13:05,594 --> 01:13:09,354
Speaker 17: you know, Malcolm Koon, the pass rusher from adult uh

1596
01:13:09,714 --> 01:13:12,834
Speaker 17: you know, from the Raiders. I know he's coming off

1597
01:13:12,914 --> 01:13:15,514
Speaker 17: the season where he was injured, but they're saying that

1598
01:13:15,914 --> 01:13:19,474
Speaker 17: they think the Patriots should go after this guy. I

1599
01:13:19,514 --> 01:13:21,594
Speaker 17: don't think it's the greatest idea, but I think maybe

1600
01:13:21,874 --> 01:13:24,074
Speaker 17: it's a low upside. Maybe they get a good return

1601
01:13:24,154 --> 01:13:27,194
Speaker 17: next season for twenty cents, just because we really don't

1602
01:13:27,194 --> 01:13:30,034
Speaker 17: have anybody out there on the edge. And then the

1603
01:13:30,154 --> 01:13:34,074
Speaker 17: other thing is what do you think about the Patriots.

1604
01:13:34,114 --> 01:13:38,114
Speaker 17: I think would help Alex van Pete would be getting

1605
01:13:38,154 --> 01:13:42,234
Speaker 17: a legit passing game coordinator like the Chiefs and the

1606
01:13:42,714 --> 01:13:45,514
Speaker 17: Rams and the forty nine ers have. They have a

1607
01:13:45,554 --> 01:13:48,194
Speaker 17: lot of these guys that are you know, under studies,

1608
01:13:48,234 --> 01:13:51,514
Speaker 17: that are really good at creating the passing game. I

1609
01:13:51,594 --> 01:13:55,794
Speaker 17: think that would probably help these receivers knowing their assignments

1610
01:13:55,874 --> 01:13:58,234
Speaker 17: and doing what they're supposed to do. And it would

1611
01:13:58,274 --> 01:14:01,714
Speaker 17: help Alex van Pelte with his coordination of the of

1612
01:14:01,754 --> 01:14:03,074
Speaker 17: the scheme of the wide zone.

1613
01:14:06,634 --> 01:14:09,474
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean to the Coons that he's hurt. I'm

1614
01:14:09,514 --> 01:14:14,954
Speaker 5: assumingans next off areator who Malcolm Kuhn say, he's like

1615
01:14:14,994 --> 01:14:17,434
Speaker 5: a josh uj type, you know, like a no but

1616
01:14:17,794 --> 01:14:22,794
Speaker 5: linked to him, I report potential targets and okay, yeah, no,

1617
01:14:22,994 --> 01:14:23,834
Speaker 5: It's it was more of.

1618
01:14:23,954 --> 01:14:27,554
Speaker 6: Like a I hadn't I just I don't know, I

1619
01:14:27,634 --> 01:14:28,914
Speaker 6: didn't know that report.

1620
01:14:28,994 --> 01:14:30,634
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just heard you say, and I

1621
01:14:30,754 --> 01:14:32,914
Speaker 4: just say, generally, i'd like to get a three down player.

1622
01:14:32,914 --> 01:14:36,394
Speaker 4: I'm want to get away from third down pass rush specialists.

1623
01:14:36,434 --> 01:14:39,154
Speaker 4: It just those guys are you can find them when

1624
01:14:39,154 --> 01:14:39,554
Speaker 4: you need them.

1625
01:14:39,634 --> 01:14:40,474
Speaker 2: You'd rather have t J.

1626
01:14:40,994 --> 01:14:43,234
Speaker 6: I'll take a third down pass rush specialist if that's

1627
01:14:43,274 --> 01:14:45,114
Speaker 6: what he is, well, I take him.

1628
01:14:45,194 --> 01:14:47,274
Speaker 4: If I'm trying to build a team, like I'm not

1629
01:14:47,514 --> 01:14:51,034
Speaker 4: like that's a priority. I gotta role player totally. Like

1630
01:14:51,274 --> 01:14:53,794
Speaker 4: the priority for the off season for me is you

1631
01:14:53,914 --> 01:14:55,994
Speaker 4: got to find a good edge you can play every

1632
01:14:56,234 --> 01:14:56,754
Speaker 4: single down.

1633
01:14:57,234 --> 01:15:00,314
Speaker 6: Yeah, but they don't really have those, Like those aren't

1634
01:15:00,354 --> 01:15:04,474
Speaker 6: really available, and that that that becomes an all pro

1635
01:15:04,794 --> 01:15:07,874
Speaker 6: Like a really good edge rusher who can play well

1636
01:15:07,954 --> 01:15:13,514
Speaker 6: on all three downs. That that's that's pie in the sky.

1637
01:15:14,194 --> 01:15:17,394
Speaker 6: Like I totally agree with you, like a like just

1638
01:15:17,474 --> 01:15:20,394
Speaker 6: a third down pass rush specialist, way low on the

1639
01:15:20,714 --> 01:15:23,674
Speaker 6: you know, we need wide receivers, we need tackles, we

1640
01:15:23,794 --> 01:15:26,674
Speaker 6: need edge you know, corners, like we need a lot

1641
01:15:26,714 --> 01:15:29,034
Speaker 6: of stuff. We need some depth at linebacker. There's a

1642
01:15:29,074 --> 01:15:32,234
Speaker 6: lot of things they need. But if you had, like

1643
01:15:32,794 --> 01:15:36,674
Speaker 6: let's say, a von Miller type like three years ago,

1644
01:15:36,794 --> 01:15:38,634
Speaker 6: four years ago, future famer.

1645
01:15:38,994 --> 01:15:41,434
Speaker 2: No, but what I'm saying is he's no longer that

1646
01:15:41,994 --> 01:15:44,954
Speaker 2: I'm not saying von Miller in Denver. Yeah, I'm saying

1647
01:15:44,994 --> 01:15:47,474
Speaker 2: von Miller with like the rams, like he was well

1648
01:15:47,554 --> 01:15:49,434
Speaker 2: past his prime, but you could put him in on

1649
01:15:49,554 --> 01:15:50,034
Speaker 2: third down.

1650
01:15:50,154 --> 01:15:51,834
Speaker 6: He's going to impact the game. I take that.

1651
01:15:52,154 --> 01:15:54,474
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I take that. I take it. I

1652
01:15:54,794 --> 01:15:56,714
Speaker 4: feel like that's a finishing piece though, And like you,

1653
01:15:56,954 --> 01:15:57,434
Speaker 4: that's why I.

1654
01:15:57,434 --> 01:15:59,194
Speaker 6: Said, You've got a lot of things in place. But

1655
01:15:59,674 --> 01:16:03,034
Speaker 6: I'm not anti oushe because he's just a one down player.

1656
01:16:03,874 --> 01:16:06,514
Speaker 6: I don't think he's very good at that. If I

1657
01:16:06,554 --> 01:16:09,034
Speaker 6: thought he was an exceptional pass rusher, I wouldn't have

1658
01:16:09,114 --> 01:16:10,314
Speaker 6: been willing to trade.

1659
01:16:10,114 --> 01:16:14,634
Speaker 2: Him for Abundanceway can I can?

1660
01:16:14,714 --> 01:16:17,394
Speaker 5: I can I give offer you?

1661
01:16:18,794 --> 01:16:18,954
Speaker 15: No? No?

1662
01:16:18,994 --> 01:16:19,634
Speaker 7: No, go ahead?

1663
01:16:19,834 --> 01:16:22,274
Speaker 6: What do you think? Yeah? I have no interest, but

1664
01:16:22,474 --> 01:16:24,354
Speaker 6: you don't have any interest because I don't think he's

1665
01:16:24,394 --> 01:16:26,954
Speaker 6: that guy anymore. Like it's just like I wouldn't want

1666
01:16:27,034 --> 01:16:29,194
Speaker 6: von Miller now. I mean, I know Buffalo uses him

1667
01:16:29,234 --> 01:16:31,394
Speaker 6: and they try to get to see him chasing cars.

1668
01:16:32,754 --> 01:16:34,794
Speaker 5: The thing that worries me about in Gokway is that

1669
01:16:34,954 --> 01:16:37,354
Speaker 5: he is notoriously known for running past the quarterback. And

1670
01:16:37,434 --> 01:16:40,034
Speaker 5: they just finally had a game where they did it right,

1671
01:16:40,234 --> 01:16:42,074
Speaker 5: and it's just like, all right, well, now we're going

1672
01:16:42,114 --> 01:16:43,794
Speaker 5: to put this guy and he's gonna be ten yards

1673
01:16:43,834 --> 01:16:45,514
Speaker 5: past the quarterback and I'm going to hear Bill.

1674
01:16:46,274 --> 01:16:49,594
Speaker 6: So let me ask you about in Goway in drid

1675
01:16:49,634 --> 01:16:53,194
Speaker 6: Mayo yesterday, would you guys? It seemed like there was

1676
01:16:53,234 --> 01:16:56,034
Speaker 6: a couple of questions that were dancing around have you

1677
01:16:56,354 --> 01:16:58,514
Speaker 6: actually spoken to him? And does he want to be here?

1678
01:16:58,794 --> 01:16:59,314
Speaker 2: Yeah? What did you?

1679
01:16:59,714 --> 01:17:00,834
Speaker 6: How did you take the answers?

1680
01:17:01,674 --> 01:17:01,834
Speaker 11: Uh?

1681
01:17:02,554 --> 01:17:03,034
Speaker 5: Lukewarm?

1682
01:17:03,354 --> 01:17:06,474
Speaker 2: Yeah, well agree, It's interesting that the question was asked somebody,

1683
01:17:06,674 --> 01:17:09,154
Speaker 2: does somebody know something and that's why they asked the question.

1684
01:17:09,554 --> 01:17:09,754
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1685
01:17:09,994 --> 01:17:12,754
Speaker 6: Well, the immediate speculation was, how's that going to go

1686
01:17:12,834 --> 01:17:14,914
Speaker 6: over with him? He's going to go from the first

1687
01:17:14,954 --> 01:17:17,114
Speaker 6: place Ravens to the last place Patriots.

1688
01:17:16,794 --> 01:17:19,114
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, the end of his car Siberia.

1689
01:17:19,234 --> 01:17:20,994
Speaker 6: And if they had just released him a week earlier,

1690
01:17:20,994 --> 01:17:22,794
Speaker 6: he would have been able to pick where he went. Well,

1691
01:17:23,114 --> 01:17:26,194
Speaker 6: but released this week, man, he is subject to waivers

1692
01:17:26,274 --> 01:17:26,954
Speaker 6: and the Patriots with.

1693
01:17:27,074 --> 01:17:28,834
Speaker 4: Tops of players, well on they go six and one.

1694
01:17:28,874 --> 01:17:30,714
Speaker 4: Maybe he knocked the Ravens off as revenge.

1695
01:17:30,754 --> 01:17:32,994
Speaker 5: Hobbly that well, I was more offering that maybe you

1696
01:17:33,154 --> 01:17:37,434
Speaker 5: get him another contract next off season, like if he's

1697
01:17:37,474 --> 01:17:39,754
Speaker 5: gonna play on third down for the Patriots and he

1698
01:17:39,834 --> 01:17:40,834
Speaker 5: has some sacks down there.

1699
01:17:40,874 --> 01:17:43,794
Speaker 6: If he does that, if he provides them, like just

1700
01:17:43,874 --> 01:17:45,874
Speaker 6: a third down pass rusher, you know. I know Girod

1701
01:17:45,914 --> 01:17:47,634
Speaker 6: said he's an every down player. I don't think he's

1702
01:17:47,634 --> 01:17:50,234
Speaker 6: ever really been that. I know he's probably played on

1703
01:17:50,314 --> 01:17:53,434
Speaker 6: every down, but he's a pass rusher, like like Kevin said,

1704
01:17:53,554 --> 01:17:55,714
Speaker 6: he's a guy who generally ends up behind the quarterback.

1705
01:17:56,114 --> 01:17:59,154
Speaker 6: In Jacksonville five years ago, he was an impact player.

1706
01:17:59,434 --> 01:18:03,314
Speaker 6: I really liked the player specifically. I thought he was

1707
01:18:03,394 --> 01:18:06,114
Speaker 6: a really really good pass rusher. He's been on like

1708
01:18:06,194 --> 01:18:08,554
Speaker 6: five teams since and hasn't really had the production. He

1709
01:18:08,714 --> 01:18:11,354
Speaker 6: was nothing last year in Chicago, he was nothing this

1710
01:18:11,474 --> 01:18:13,794
Speaker 6: year in Baltimore. I think he had a decent year

1711
01:18:13,874 --> 01:18:16,474
Speaker 6: with the Colts. I want to say, like four years ago,

1712
01:18:16,554 --> 01:18:17,194
Speaker 6: three years ago.

1713
01:18:18,474 --> 01:18:20,714
Speaker 5: But he does the flying cross chop and it looks cool.

1714
01:18:21,034 --> 01:18:21,194
Speaker 15: You know.

1715
01:18:22,194 --> 01:18:24,074
Speaker 6: Really, I really like the player, and if that's what

1716
01:18:24,194 --> 01:18:25,434
Speaker 6: he get, if all of a sudden, he he can

1717
01:18:25,474 --> 01:18:28,434
Speaker 6: go in on third down and impact the passer, I

1718
01:18:28,474 --> 01:18:30,474
Speaker 6: wouldn't be opposed to bringing him back in that role

1719
01:18:30,594 --> 01:18:30,994
Speaker 6: next year.

1720
01:18:31,194 --> 01:18:33,994
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just in general, does any team, Yeah,

1721
01:18:33,994 --> 01:18:36,114
Speaker 5: if he puts some good tape out there, like That's

1722
01:18:36,394 --> 01:18:39,354
Speaker 5: how I would hope that he approaches it, is that

1723
01:18:39,394 --> 01:18:41,314
Speaker 5: I'm actually going to play here because who else? So

1724
01:18:41,394 --> 01:18:43,594
Speaker 5: they really have right, right, and so I'm actually going

1725
01:18:43,634 --> 01:18:45,914
Speaker 5: to play. And you know, if I have four or

1726
01:18:45,954 --> 01:18:48,554
Speaker 5: five sacks, even if they're cleanup sacks, they still count,

1727
01:18:48,914 --> 01:18:51,634
Speaker 5: and you know, yeah exactly, and then you'll you'll go

1728
01:18:51,754 --> 01:18:53,514
Speaker 5: out and maybe you'll get some money next off season,

1729
01:18:53,554 --> 01:18:54,714
Speaker 5: at least get another contract.

1730
01:18:54,754 --> 01:18:57,154
Speaker 4: Still just twenty nine. I thought that was those like, wow, yeah,

1731
01:18:57,234 --> 01:18:59,554
Speaker 4: it's just makes He's been around forever, one of those guys,

1732
01:18:59,634 --> 01:19:01,674
Speaker 4: you know, he's like somebody that always I felt like

1733
01:19:01,714 --> 01:19:04,034
Speaker 4: Patriots fans always kind of wanted for.

1734
01:19:04,514 --> 01:19:07,274
Speaker 2: Because he was really good and that Jacksonville team that

1735
01:19:07,354 --> 01:19:10,154
Speaker 2: took the Patriots to the wire in the AFC Championship game.

1736
01:19:10,234 --> 01:19:11,914
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's really good in the game in nineteen

1737
01:19:11,954 --> 01:19:14,554
Speaker 5: two down there or eighteen, I should say, the regular

1738
01:19:14,594 --> 01:19:19,034
Speaker 5: season game the following season, I uh. The caller asked

1739
01:19:19,074 --> 01:19:21,034
Speaker 5: the second question though, about like bringing in like a

1740
01:19:21,074 --> 01:19:23,954
Speaker 5: pass game coordinator or something like that next offseason.

1741
01:19:24,074 --> 01:19:26,754
Speaker 6: Evan's available besides me, of course.

1742
01:19:26,594 --> 01:19:29,194
Speaker 5: I will put my name in the running, but I

1743
01:19:29,234 --> 01:19:32,394
Speaker 5: wouldn't be opposed to something along those lines of like

1744
01:19:33,154 --> 01:19:36,594
Speaker 5: somebody just to come in and design cool stuff, you know,

1745
01:19:36,754 --> 01:19:39,274
Speaker 5: like for the offense, and more of a guy whose

1746
01:19:39,314 --> 01:19:43,154
Speaker 5: specialty is in play design, not necessarily coaching up, like

1747
01:19:43,274 --> 01:19:45,714
Speaker 5: fundamentals and things like that. I think they've done a

1748
01:19:45,794 --> 01:19:49,714
Speaker 5: decent job improving over the course of the season and

1749
01:19:49,914 --> 01:19:53,113
Speaker 5: some of the like the fundamentals and the coaching aspect

1750
01:19:53,474 --> 01:19:56,434
Speaker 5: from that standpoint, but they could use a little sprucing

1751
01:19:56,514 --> 01:19:58,434
Speaker 5: up in terms of the scheme. So maybe they can

1752
01:19:58,554 --> 01:20:01,514
Speaker 5: find somebody that maybe somebody from college or something like

1753
01:20:01,594 --> 01:20:03,994
Speaker 5: that that can come in and bring in some new stuff.

1754
01:20:04,394 --> 01:20:06,834
Speaker 2: Boston Cream's on the line. What's up, Boston Cream?

1755
01:20:08,474 --> 01:20:11,594
Speaker 8: Hey guys, Paul, do you mind if I pick your memory.

1756
01:20:11,314 --> 01:20:12,034
Speaker 7: Here for a second.

1757
01:20:12,394 --> 01:20:13,234
Speaker 6: I'll try to help.

1758
01:20:15,074 --> 01:20:17,834
Speaker 8: What was the Patriots record in the first eleven weeks

1759
01:20:17,874 --> 01:20:18,634
Speaker 8: of two thousand?

1760
01:20:20,514 --> 01:20:22,754
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know two thousand.

1761
01:20:23,874 --> 01:20:25,594
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, big eleven.

1762
01:20:25,634 --> 01:20:26,834
Speaker 6: I think three and seven.

1763
01:20:29,594 --> 01:20:32,474
Speaker 8: Well that'd be ten, but yeah, there was three and eight.

1764
01:20:33,394 --> 01:20:41,634
Speaker 6: Okay, they didn't finish a Bill Belichick trajectory. Yeah, that

1765
01:20:41,834 --> 01:20:45,554
Speaker 6: two thousand season was the worst. That was the worst season.

1766
01:20:45,674 --> 01:20:47,474
Speaker 2: Thanks really, thanks though they were terrible.

1767
01:20:47,594 --> 01:20:49,954
Speaker 6: That's the that's the year that they didn't keep fifty

1768
01:20:49,994 --> 01:20:53,674
Speaker 6: three players because Bill said we didn't have them. Now,

1769
01:20:53,754 --> 01:20:55,634
Speaker 6: part of that was that was a billism because I'm

1770
01:20:55,674 --> 01:20:58,073
Speaker 6: smarter than everybody else, and I'm not just gonna adhere

1771
01:20:58,114 --> 01:21:01,154
Speaker 6: to your your your societal norms and have fifty three

1772
01:21:01,154 --> 01:21:03,674
Speaker 6: players on my team because you say, I'm supposed to

1773
01:21:04,114 --> 01:21:06,914
Speaker 6: write right. Part of it was that, but that was

1774
01:21:06,994 --> 01:21:07,594
Speaker 6: a bad team.

1775
01:21:07,674 --> 01:21:09,434
Speaker 4: But you guys were here, So I mean, what was

1776
01:21:09,474 --> 01:21:12,674
Speaker 4: your kind of feeling when that team ended in ninety

1777
01:21:12,794 --> 01:21:15,554
Speaker 4: nine of what they needed to do and then you

1778
01:21:15,634 --> 01:21:17,754
Speaker 4: hear that from Bill? Did that sound to you guys

1779
01:21:17,874 --> 01:21:19,314
Speaker 4: like we're not that bad?

1780
01:21:19,434 --> 01:21:20,354
Speaker 2: Or I mean, did that ring?

1781
01:21:20,754 --> 01:21:23,474
Speaker 6: They were going and they they were gett No, like

1782
01:21:23,874 --> 01:21:28,434
Speaker 6: the there was a lot of key players from the

1783
01:21:28,554 --> 01:21:32,274
Speaker 6: ninety six Super Bowl team that were on the downward trajectory,

1784
01:21:32,714 --> 01:21:36,714
Speaker 6: like Bruce Armstrong, Ben Coates, Chris Slade, you know, like

1785
01:21:37,434 --> 01:21:41,714
Speaker 6: that's where you were in two thousand Bloods. Yeah no,

1786
01:21:41,914 --> 01:21:43,754
Speaker 6: but like you're right, I mean, I have to be

1787
01:21:43,834 --> 01:21:46,354
Speaker 6: fair about it. Drew Bledsoe wasn't as good in two

1788
01:21:46,354 --> 01:21:47,634
Speaker 6: thousand as he wasn't ninety six.

1789
01:21:47,674 --> 01:21:54,714
Speaker 5: It was running like a wild wildebeast, a wounded which.

1790
01:21:53,794 --> 01:21:59,754
Speaker 6: Makes even makes me laugh. They were going but like

1791
01:21:59,874 --> 01:22:02,554
Speaker 6: they had, I mean, they certainly had the nucleus of

1792
01:22:02,834 --> 01:22:07,834
Speaker 6: what ended up being the first dynasty, Bruce Ki, Johnson,

1793
01:22:08,194 --> 01:22:10,434
Speaker 6: Law Malloyd. They had a lot of McGinnis. They had

1794
01:22:10,434 --> 01:22:12,834
Speaker 6: a lot of good players still, but they also had

1795
01:22:12,834 --> 01:22:14,754
Speaker 6: a lot of key players that were on the back nine.

1796
01:22:15,354 --> 01:22:19,074
Speaker 6: And Bill either kept him around for another year or

1797
01:22:19,154 --> 01:22:22,634
Speaker 6: pulled the plug on him that year, and they they

1798
01:22:22,714 --> 01:22:25,314
Speaker 6: tried to reset. Now the biggest difference they signed and

1799
01:22:25,354 --> 01:22:27,914
Speaker 6: I want to say twenty one free agents, Yeah, and

1800
01:22:27,954 --> 01:22:29,194
Speaker 6: they brought for the twenty one.

1801
01:22:29,234 --> 01:22:33,074
Speaker 2: He brought in his guys like Anthony Pleasant and Bobby Hamilton,

1802
01:22:33,194 --> 01:22:36,114
Speaker 2: and these weren't like Ricklers, but these are guys that

1803
01:22:36,434 --> 01:22:39,194
Speaker 2: he knew I could depend on on defense.

1804
01:22:39,314 --> 01:22:39,914
Speaker 6: Otis Smith.

1805
01:22:40,034 --> 01:22:42,554
Speaker 5: The other one, yeah, was remand Fier already on the team.

1806
01:22:43,674 --> 01:22:45,634
Speaker 2: Him. He was one of the he was one of

1807
01:22:45,714 --> 01:22:47,634
Speaker 2: the free agents because he was living in California.

1808
01:22:47,634 --> 01:22:49,914
Speaker 6: Well that was later, but that was he but he

1809
01:22:49,994 --> 01:22:52,834
Speaker 6: signed him. And I want to say June or July. Yeah,

1810
01:22:53,354 --> 01:22:55,874
Speaker 6: they signed Antoine Smith at that time too. I remember

1811
01:22:55,914 --> 01:22:58,314
Speaker 6: we're at your house. We were at your house for

1812
01:22:58,354 --> 01:23:01,914
Speaker 6: a for a kershapalooza. Is that right, and Bears came

1813
01:23:01,954 --> 01:23:04,714
Speaker 6: in and told us we had signed h Antoine Smith. Okay,

1814
01:23:04,954 --> 01:23:07,314
Speaker 6: and we were mad because we didn't know if they

1815
01:23:07,314 --> 01:23:08,394
Speaker 6: meant we had to get out of the pool and

1816
01:23:08,474 --> 01:23:08,874
Speaker 6: righte up.

1817
01:23:10,794 --> 01:23:14,154
Speaker 4: How did you guys feel though, comparatively to just with

1818
01:23:14,234 --> 01:23:16,554
Speaker 4: the new coaching staff that year in two thousand, kind

1819
01:23:16,594 --> 01:23:18,514
Speaker 4: of compared to what we've seen this year where I

1820
01:23:18,594 --> 01:23:20,234
Speaker 4: know Bill had coached before, he had a lot of

1821
01:23:20,314 --> 01:23:23,514
Speaker 4: experienced coaches, but did you feel like this is a

1822
01:23:23,554 --> 01:23:25,674
Speaker 4: new coaching staff, things were a little going to take

1823
01:23:25,714 --> 01:23:27,114
Speaker 4: a little time to come together.

1824
01:23:27,154 --> 01:23:29,714
Speaker 6: It was a definite rebuild, Like that was not a

1825
01:23:29,794 --> 01:23:35,034
Speaker 6: good team in ninety nine. Yeah they Okay, I took

1826
01:23:35,074 --> 01:23:37,954
Speaker 6: a shot at my guy. Yeah before now I'm going

1827
01:23:38,034 --> 01:23:40,794
Speaker 6: to come back. They won games because Drew was unbelievable

1828
01:23:40,874 --> 01:23:42,434
Speaker 6: in the first half of the year and then all

1829
01:23:42,474 --> 01:23:45,114
Speaker 6: of a sudden, he wasn't unbelievable anymore. He was not

1830
01:23:45,194 --> 01:23:52,994
Speaker 6: winning games by himself. They also Pete. The whole dynamic

1831
01:23:53,074 --> 01:23:55,594
Speaker 6: with Pete and the guys going up the backstairs was real.

1832
01:23:55,714 --> 01:23:58,434
Speaker 6: It was real, and that was a problem. It was

1833
01:23:58,874 --> 01:24:00,634
Speaker 6: kind of like what you saw with Chicago the other day,

1834
01:24:00,714 --> 01:24:04,114
Speaker 6: Like that's a team that doesn't believe in it's it's coaching,

1835
01:24:04,594 --> 01:24:06,714
Speaker 6: and you could you could see the body language a

1836
01:24:06,754 --> 01:24:08,554
Speaker 6: guy like Dj Moore, I think is a pretty good

1837
01:24:08,594 --> 01:24:11,274
Speaker 6: player and a pretty good pro. He looks like he

1838
01:24:11,394 --> 01:24:13,834
Speaker 6: has no desire to be on the field at all,

1839
01:24:14,514 --> 01:24:17,234
Speaker 6: every like every play. I don't know if it's just

1840
01:24:17,354 --> 01:24:19,754
Speaker 6: Caleb Williams and he just like this kid, This kid

1841
01:24:19,794 --> 01:24:21,554
Speaker 6: doesn't get it. I don't want to play for this kid,

1842
01:24:21,874 --> 01:24:24,234
Speaker 6: or if it's the coach, or if it's the departed

1843
01:24:24,234 --> 01:24:26,994
Speaker 6: offensive coordinator, which who decided. I'm not even going to

1844
01:24:27,034 --> 01:24:28,714
Speaker 6: try to throw the ball down the field in this game,

1845
01:24:29,074 --> 01:24:30,154
Speaker 6: which obviously would.

1846
01:24:30,794 --> 01:24:34,714
Speaker 5: The one time Gonzo kind of got beaten this game

1847
01:24:34,874 --> 01:24:36,954
Speaker 5: was on a go route by DJ Moore and he

1848
01:24:37,114 --> 01:24:39,714
Speaker 5: was open and Caleb was staring at it and just

1849
01:24:39,834 --> 01:24:42,754
Speaker 5: wouldn't throw it. And I've been watching Dj Moore since

1850
01:24:42,794 --> 01:24:45,954
Speaker 5: college and he's a dog with the good kind like

1851
01:24:46,074 --> 01:24:48,874
Speaker 5: so to see yeah, to see him kind of just

1852
01:24:48,994 --> 01:24:51,714
Speaker 5: like tap out like he has a couple of weeks

1853
01:24:51,834 --> 01:24:52,354
Speaker 5: is shocking.

1854
01:24:53,074 --> 01:24:56,834
Speaker 2: That cast of coaches back in the Pete Carroll that

1855
01:24:56,954 --> 01:25:00,554
Speaker 2: was an interesting cast of characters that they had. You know,

1856
01:25:01,194 --> 01:25:07,714
Speaker 2: so Larry's MPZ, but it was Larry Larry Cannon before that,

1857
01:25:08,194 --> 01:25:11,114
Speaker 2: and who was the guy that from Saved by the Bell?

1858
01:25:11,274 --> 01:25:15,714
Speaker 2: They called him Screech Screech. It was like the I

1859
01:25:15,794 --> 01:25:19,234
Speaker 2: think it was the wide receivers coach, Curly Hair. Remember him,

1860
01:25:19,314 --> 01:25:21,674
Speaker 2: I don't remember him. It was a weird and bo

1861
01:25:22,114 --> 01:25:24,994
Speaker 2: Polini has hated us.

1862
01:25:26,194 --> 01:25:28,674
Speaker 6: The whole paper. It's just one big critique.

1863
01:25:28,794 --> 01:25:30,114
Speaker 2: Well who was it? He saw.

1864
01:25:32,274 --> 01:25:32,634
Speaker 4: Negative?

1865
01:25:32,754 --> 01:25:34,274
Speaker 2: This is back in the old stadium, and he saw

1866
01:25:34,354 --> 01:25:37,314
Speaker 2: Maury in the mail room and you know, he's going

1867
01:25:37,354 --> 01:25:40,314
Speaker 2: to get our mail and both Polini walks in and

1868
01:25:40,594 --> 01:25:44,794
Speaker 2: he sees more He goes, hey, who are who signs

1869
01:25:44,834 --> 01:25:48,154
Speaker 2: your checks? And Morey's like the same guy that signs yours,

1870
01:25:48,234 --> 01:25:50,314
Speaker 2: Robert Craft. He goes, I ain't that a kick in

1871
01:25:50,394 --> 01:25:50,714
Speaker 2: the head.

1872
01:25:52,194 --> 01:25:54,634
Speaker 6: So and of course Brian didn't just let it go

1873
01:25:56,274 --> 01:25:57,914
Speaker 6: in front of him, and that's when he found out

1874
01:25:57,954 --> 01:26:03,274
Speaker 6: that the whole thing just negative, one big critique, which

1875
01:26:03,354 --> 01:26:04,674
Speaker 6: which was like, I was like, what did I get

1876
01:26:05,634 --> 01:26:10,154
Speaker 6: so wrong? You know, especially in those days, right, I

1877
01:26:10,274 --> 01:26:13,434
Speaker 6: was still on board in those days, but.

1878
01:26:13,554 --> 01:26:17,354
Speaker 2: Like you know, it was an interesting crew of coaches

1879
01:26:17,434 --> 01:26:19,354
Speaker 2: that Steve Sidwell was a really good guy.

1880
01:26:19,554 --> 01:26:20,394
Speaker 6: Defensive coordinator.

1881
01:26:20,514 --> 01:26:24,914
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he had the really deep voice. Larry. I

1882
01:26:24,994 --> 01:26:27,914
Speaker 2: keeps calling him Larry, and he would come.

1883
01:26:27,834 --> 01:26:28,674
Speaker 6: Out in the cigarette.

1884
01:26:28,674 --> 01:26:31,834
Speaker 2: He wear this like the Loore sweatsuit. It was literally

1885
01:26:31,994 --> 01:26:34,194
Speaker 2: the Loore. He looked like he was like on the

1886
01:26:34,754 --> 01:26:37,314
Speaker 2: back door of the old stadium. Was this like green

1887
01:26:37,514 --> 01:26:40,274
Speaker 2: astro turf on the steps and he'd come out and

1888
01:26:40,434 --> 01:26:43,754
Speaker 2: stand on that green AstroTurf and bare feet smoking his

1889
01:26:43,834 --> 01:26:45,194
Speaker 2: cigarette and like.

1890
01:26:45,434 --> 01:26:50,554
Speaker 6: With Rick Ames, Yeah, our old webmaster was Rick Ernie's

1891
01:26:50,594 --> 01:26:55,194
Speaker 6: in ps and and Eddie Duckworth smoking bus just smoking. Yeah,

1892
01:26:56,954 --> 01:26:58,914
Speaker 6: would to be outside.

1893
01:26:58,514 --> 01:27:04,034
Speaker 2: And Velora's sweatsuit. It was an odd Yeah, you don't

1894
01:27:04,034 --> 01:27:05,074
Speaker 2: remember Screech.

1895
01:27:05,514 --> 01:27:09,114
Speaker 6: No, but I'm I don't remember anybody that referred to

1896
01:27:09,194 --> 01:27:09,434
Speaker 6: as that.

1897
01:27:09,514 --> 01:27:11,514
Speaker 2: I probably would remember the name of the guy was

1898
01:27:11,754 --> 01:27:15,394
Speaker 2: ninety nine one of those years. Yeah, he was a

1899
01:27:15,434 --> 01:27:19,674
Speaker 2: little guy with like curly hair. Anyway, while you look

1900
01:27:19,714 --> 01:27:22,954
Speaker 2: at that Dan and Virginia Michigan rights in with a

1901
01:27:23,074 --> 01:27:25,794
Speaker 2: VP McAdoo and the other coaches on the offfensive side

1902
01:27:25,794 --> 01:27:28,034
Speaker 2: of the ball, you think that there would be someone

1903
01:27:28,074 --> 01:27:30,914
Speaker 2: who could explain to me the difference between his head

1904
01:27:30,954 --> 01:27:33,474
Speaker 2: and his feet and which one should go first when

1905
01:27:33,554 --> 01:27:37,314
Speaker 2: he QB slides are the Bears fans one of the

1906
01:27:37,394 --> 01:27:40,154
Speaker 2: few sets of fans that are tougher on their teams

1907
01:27:40,154 --> 01:27:42,554
Speaker 2: than those in Boston. It seems to take only a

1908
01:27:42,634 --> 01:27:48,114
Speaker 2: few Chicago offensive drives before daboos started coming for dub Airs.

1909
01:27:48,234 --> 01:27:49,874
Speaker 4: What was that, like, you guys in the press conference,

1910
01:27:49,914 --> 01:27:51,714
Speaker 4: did you feel like the atmosphere turned on him quick?

1911
01:27:51,994 --> 01:27:55,754
Speaker 2: We heard it did. But that's that's as much an

1912
01:27:55,794 --> 01:27:58,474
Speaker 2: indictment on our team as it is the Bears, because

1913
01:27:58,914 --> 01:28:04,234
Speaker 2: they felt exactly exactly, so we should take that as

1914
01:28:04,234 --> 01:28:05,234
Speaker 2: an insult as well.

1915
01:28:05,434 --> 01:28:07,474
Speaker 5: But I also just think that, you know, to say,

1916
01:28:07,514 --> 01:28:09,594
Speaker 5: it only took a future like this has been brewing

1917
01:28:09,674 --> 01:28:10,234
Speaker 5: in Chicago.

1918
01:28:10,394 --> 01:28:13,354
Speaker 2: First. Yeah, they came into this game like you better

1919
01:28:13,474 --> 01:28:16,274
Speaker 2: beat these guys as soon as they Yeah.

1920
01:28:16,434 --> 01:28:18,834
Speaker 5: I mean this was like the hail Maryland.

1921
01:28:18,914 --> 01:28:22,114
Speaker 6: Carl Smith, Carl Smith tight ends coach. Yeah, Carl, I

1922
01:28:22,154 --> 01:28:24,194
Speaker 6: remember the hair now, Carl Smith.

1923
01:28:23,994 --> 01:28:27,754
Speaker 2: Carl Smith crazy.

1924
01:28:28,034 --> 01:28:31,034
Speaker 5: There were people that so they don't call him Eberflus,

1925
01:28:31,074 --> 01:28:34,554
Speaker 5: they just call him fluse Flus fire flus is the

1926
01:28:35,234 --> 01:28:37,354
Speaker 5: is the chant. And then like the third and fourth

1927
01:28:37,434 --> 01:28:42,394
Speaker 5: quarter that was quite loud. You could you could hear

1928
01:28:42,474 --> 01:28:45,034
Speaker 5: it pretty clear, John.

1929
01:28:44,794 --> 01:28:48,954
Speaker 2: Writes in calling Paul out for capping every week. Yeah,

1930
01:28:49,194 --> 01:28:51,194
Speaker 2: at this point, I wish Paul would give the nod

1931
01:28:51,314 --> 01:28:54,634
Speaker 2: each game rather win or lose, because after every game

1932
01:28:54,674 --> 01:28:56,394
Speaker 2: he says the game is over at this point or

1933
01:28:56,474 --> 01:28:59,434
Speaker 2: that point, when in reality, if he never actually gives

1934
01:28:59,474 --> 01:29:02,434
Speaker 2: the nod, he could never be wrong. You slick son

1935
01:29:02,474 --> 01:29:03,874
Speaker 2: of a gun. I love what you're doing.

1936
01:29:04,074 --> 01:29:04,554
Speaker 6: Thanks guy.

1937
01:29:04,754 --> 01:29:07,354
Speaker 2: Also side note, Evan or Mike, can you tell me

1938
01:29:07,474 --> 01:29:11,914
Speaker 2: how Gonzo actually did Sunday? We can't see on TV copy,

1939
01:29:12,034 --> 01:29:14,874
Speaker 2: so wonder if he actually played well or Caleb just

1940
01:29:14,994 --> 01:29:15,594
Speaker 2: wasn't seeing it.

1941
01:29:17,234 --> 01:29:19,594
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I thought he played really well. I

1942
01:29:19,674 --> 01:29:22,034
Speaker 4: mean it's just even some of the throws where I

1943
01:29:22,474 --> 01:29:25,073
Speaker 4: or you know, plays where it felt like the coverage

1944
01:29:25,114 --> 01:29:26,874
Speaker 4: was little bit, they were still right there, you know,

1945
01:29:27,034 --> 01:29:29,754
Speaker 4: Like it's just there's just certain days where it's like, man,

1946
01:29:29,794 --> 01:29:31,874
Speaker 4: you're matching up well, you're running with these guys. You've

1947
01:29:31,914 --> 01:29:33,634
Speaker 4: got a good feel for what they're doing, and that's

1948
01:29:33,754 --> 01:29:35,154
Speaker 4: that's what it felt like. I wish you could feel

1949
01:29:35,154 --> 01:29:36,914
Speaker 4: like that every week. And I mean, I don't even

1950
01:29:36,914 --> 01:29:39,234
Speaker 4: think with the Belichick Patriots it was you know, oh

1951
01:29:39,354 --> 01:29:41,834
Speaker 4: every week where you felt like, oh, it's all just

1952
01:29:41,914 --> 01:29:44,154
Speaker 4: matched up and you know, they're all picking each other up,

1953
01:29:44,234 --> 01:29:46,154
Speaker 4: and I mean that was the vibe that that they

1954
01:29:46,194 --> 01:29:48,554
Speaker 4: had going this week, and that's you know, it's it's

1955
01:29:48,594 --> 01:29:51,274
Speaker 4: hard to replicate. And I mean, I just I'd love

1956
01:29:51,314 --> 01:29:53,434
Speaker 4: nothing more though than see Jeremiah Farms come out next

1957
01:29:53,514 --> 01:29:55,834
Speaker 4: this week and follow it up, follow it up, and

1958
01:29:55,954 --> 01:29:57,634
Speaker 4: build off of it, because we saw some of that

1959
01:29:57,674 --> 01:29:59,594
Speaker 4: stuff from him this summer. You know, we saw some

1960
01:29:59,714 --> 01:30:02,314
Speaker 4: of this disruptive stuff from the defense this summer, and

1961
01:30:02,354 --> 01:30:04,274
Speaker 4: I think at the time we were just like, they're

1962
01:30:04,314 --> 01:30:06,674
Speaker 4: being so aggressive in the preseason, but you know, I

1963
01:30:06,754 --> 01:30:09,234
Speaker 4: think they have it in them to dominate and to

1964
01:30:09,274 --> 01:30:12,514
Speaker 4: play with energy like that just to keep it doing.

1965
01:30:13,154 --> 01:30:15,154
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought I thought Gonzo was good. I mentioned

1966
01:30:15,194 --> 01:30:17,834
Speaker 5: that go up by Moore was probably the one time

1967
01:30:17,954 --> 01:30:21,274
Speaker 5: I jotted down that he got truly beat on a play.

1968
01:30:21,394 --> 01:30:26,234
Speaker 5: And Jonathan Jones, who at some point we'll probably talk about, is,

1969
01:30:26,634 --> 01:30:28,394
Speaker 5: you know, his role is kind of changing a little bit.

1970
01:30:28,394 --> 01:30:30,794
Speaker 5: He's playing a little bit more safety now than he

1971
01:30:30,914 --> 01:30:32,594
Speaker 5: has in the past, and so he was playing up

1972
01:30:32,674 --> 01:30:35,474
Speaker 5: top on the play and he was cheating over to

1973
01:30:35,554 --> 01:30:37,834
Speaker 5: that side, and I think Caleb just wasn't one hundred

1974
01:30:37,874 --> 01:30:40,874
Speaker 5: percent sold that he could get it there before Jones

1975
01:30:41,194 --> 01:30:45,914
Speaker 5: came over, so yeah, he was holding it. But you know,

1976
01:30:46,474 --> 01:30:50,834
Speaker 5: Gonzo also has a really good job of closing when

1977
01:30:50,874 --> 01:30:53,194
Speaker 5: the ball's in the air. So sometimes when it looks

1978
01:30:53,274 --> 01:30:56,274
Speaker 5: like he's like initially beat, if he doesn't actually get targeted,

1979
01:30:56,354 --> 01:30:58,754
Speaker 5: you're like, Okay, well it's a crossing route, like he

1980
01:30:58,834 --> 01:31:01,594
Speaker 5: might have been able to just undercut this and get

1981
01:31:01,634 --> 01:31:02,554
Speaker 5: into the passing lane.

1982
01:31:02,594 --> 01:31:04,074
Speaker 2: So the good corners can do that.

1983
01:31:04,314 --> 01:31:07,114
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, but he's effortless out there. I mean, that's

1984
01:31:07,154 --> 01:31:08,674
Speaker 5: the one thing that definitely stands.

1985
01:31:08,434 --> 01:31:10,914
Speaker 6: Out, David, if do like the guy recognizing my brilliance, though,

1986
01:31:10,994 --> 01:31:13,114
Speaker 6: oh sure, I will just say that I do not

1987
01:31:13,234 --> 01:31:16,994
Speaker 6: give the negative nod, right, Oh no, never, not one.

1988
01:31:17,074 --> 01:31:19,874
Speaker 6: I do not publicly give the negative nod.

1989
01:31:20,634 --> 01:31:24,114
Speaker 2: David in Madrid, right sin? Where could be a game

1990
01:31:24,194 --> 01:31:27,434
Speaker 2: soon from the NFL in Madrid. Three reasons why I

1991
01:31:27,434 --> 01:31:30,794
Speaker 2: would give this coaching staff another year. One, we saw

1992
01:31:30,914 --> 01:31:33,954
Speaker 2: last week how the Chicago Bears are ruining their quarterback

1993
01:31:34,274 --> 01:31:37,474
Speaker 2: and how far from that Drake May is, even after

1994
01:31:37,594 --> 01:31:41,754
Speaker 2: playing his worst as a starter in that game. Okay. Two, Ever,

1995
01:31:41,794 --> 01:31:44,114
Speaker 2: since Male called the team soft, they've answered back with

1996
01:31:44,234 --> 01:31:47,514
Speaker 2: two out of three wins and a loss in ot Obviously,

1997
01:31:47,594 --> 01:31:49,834
Speaker 2: the play wasn't good versus Jets and Titans, but the

1998
01:31:49,954 --> 01:31:52,874
Speaker 2: talent isn't good either. I believe the players have proven

1999
01:31:52,954 --> 01:31:55,954
Speaker 2: that they are playing four male and versus the Bears

2000
01:31:55,994 --> 01:31:58,594
Speaker 2: with the run working. We saw how AVP has shown

2001
01:31:58,674 --> 01:32:02,434
Speaker 2: better play calling and scheme. And three, I really don't

2002
01:32:02,434 --> 01:32:04,434
Speaker 2: think that the Jets win has talked about enough in

2003
01:32:04,514 --> 01:32:06,994
Speaker 2: the sense that after being crushed twenty four to three,

2004
01:32:07,074 --> 01:32:09,914
Speaker 2: they rewatched the film, saw what went wrong with their

2005
01:32:09,954 --> 01:32:12,754
Speaker 2: schemes informations, and came out with a good enough game

2006
01:32:12,834 --> 01:32:15,274
Speaker 2: plan to stay close and give the Jets a chance

2007
01:32:15,354 --> 01:32:18,114
Speaker 2: to do what they always do. Finally, I think this

2008
01:32:18,274 --> 01:32:20,634
Speaker 2: Rams game is huge. If they can pull off of

2009
01:32:20,914 --> 01:32:23,994
Speaker 2: w then they will beat the Dolphins, beat the Colts,

2010
01:32:24,074 --> 01:32:26,754
Speaker 2: and lose to the Cardinals because Chad Ryland kicks the

2011
01:32:26,834 --> 01:32:27,754
Speaker 2: last second field goal.

2012
01:32:28,434 --> 01:32:32,674
Speaker 5: There's absolutely zero chance in my mind that Gerard Mayo

2013
01:32:32,794 --> 01:32:34,874
Speaker 5: is not the coach of the Patriots in twenty twenty five.

2014
01:32:35,154 --> 01:32:37,914
Speaker 5: Are so not to like about the rest of the

2015
01:32:37,994 --> 01:32:40,954
Speaker 5: guys rag on the emailer but like this coaching like

2016
01:32:41,394 --> 01:32:43,834
Speaker 5: Mayo is not going anywhere. I don't think I agree

2017
01:32:43,874 --> 01:32:44,034
Speaker 5: with that.

2018
01:32:44,074 --> 01:32:44,794
Speaker 6: I totally agree.

2019
01:32:44,914 --> 01:32:49,154
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all. Let's go to the team.

2020
01:32:49,234 --> 01:32:51,354
Speaker 6: And I don't really care what happens in other places,

2021
01:32:51,874 --> 01:32:55,514
Speaker 6: Like I don't think that Matty Eberflus is ruining Caleb Williams.

2022
01:32:55,554 --> 01:32:58,274
Speaker 6: I think Caleb Williams is no, I not playing one.

2023
01:32:58,674 --> 01:33:03,114
Speaker 2: I would hope that a VP stays just for the

2024
01:33:03,194 --> 01:33:06,434
Speaker 2: continuity for Drake, but what if he's not good? Right,

2025
01:33:06,794 --> 01:33:08,954
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is I hope that a VP

2026
01:33:09,234 --> 01:33:10,514
Speaker 2: shows that he should stay.

2027
01:33:10,634 --> 01:33:13,834
Speaker 6: Oh, okay, that's different. I do hope he's a good coordinator.

2028
01:33:14,554 --> 01:33:17,234
Speaker 5: Me too, I still stay stay in the same place

2029
01:33:17,274 --> 01:33:20,434
Speaker 5: with a VP. I think AVP is a good quarterbacks coach.

2030
01:33:20,594 --> 01:33:23,074
Speaker 5: I'm not sure he's a good coordinator. And those are

2031
01:33:23,114 --> 01:33:26,674
Speaker 5: obviously two very different things. And at this stage of

2032
01:33:26,794 --> 01:33:30,074
Speaker 5: Drake May's career, like, I'm okay having a coach that's

2033
01:33:30,114 --> 01:33:33,194
Speaker 5: a little bit more towards the QB coach side of things,

2034
01:33:33,314 --> 01:33:36,474
Speaker 5: because Drake needs the development now. At some point in time,

2035
01:33:36,514 --> 01:33:38,994
Speaker 5: they're going to need to be more innovative schematically, Like

2036
01:33:39,074 --> 01:33:40,394
Speaker 5: there will be a time and place for that.

2037
01:33:40,474 --> 01:33:41,994
Speaker 6: I just don't think it's now, And I think he's

2038
01:33:42,034 --> 01:33:45,113
Speaker 6: done a good job with Drake just in terms of development.

2039
01:33:45,154 --> 01:33:47,034
Speaker 6: I think that's the number one priority this year, and

2040
01:33:47,074 --> 01:33:49,554
Speaker 6: I've seen a lot of improvement from when I first

2041
01:33:49,594 --> 01:33:52,554
Speaker 6: saw Drake May in the spring to now. Now I

2042
01:33:52,754 --> 01:33:55,794
Speaker 6: understand that the guy is immensely talented and he probably

2043
01:33:55,874 --> 01:33:59,074
Speaker 6: deserves the Lion's share of the credit for Drake May's

2044
01:33:59,114 --> 01:34:02,354
Speaker 6: development should go to Drake May. I get that, but

2045
01:34:02,514 --> 01:34:05,314
Speaker 6: whatever Van Pelt is doing is got to at least

2046
01:34:05,314 --> 01:34:07,394
Speaker 6: be helping, and I think he deserves some credit for that.

2047
01:34:08,554 --> 01:34:16,514
Speaker 2: Keith's and Burlington on the TPX outline, what's up, Keith, Keith, Kevin, Kevin, Oh, Kevin,

2048
01:34:16,514 --> 01:34:17,314
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Kevin.

2049
01:34:17,394 --> 01:34:19,474
Speaker 6: Yeah, words are hard, words are hard.

2050
01:34:20,914 --> 01:34:22,954
Speaker 8: I just want to follow up on something Fred talked

2051
01:34:22,994 --> 01:34:25,834
Speaker 8: about a couple of weeks back about Check not be

2052
01:34:26,074 --> 01:34:29,674
Speaker 8: willing to sort of tutor and mentor draw Mayo for

2053
01:34:29,834 --> 01:34:34,594
Speaker 8: the succession role, because it reminded me of Josh McDaniels

2054
01:34:35,034 --> 01:34:37,714
Speaker 8: when he turned down the Colts at like the eleventh

2055
01:34:37,754 --> 01:34:40,154
Speaker 8: hour and came back, and all the reports at the

2056
01:34:40,274 --> 01:34:42,954
Speaker 8: time were about how Bill was going to sort of

2057
01:34:43,034 --> 01:34:45,074
Speaker 8: mentor him and tutor him, but a lot of people

2058
01:34:45,114 --> 01:34:47,794
Speaker 8: thought that Josh was going to be the successor. So

2059
01:34:47,954 --> 01:34:52,634
Speaker 8: is that sort of why Crafted. After McDaniels left and

2060
01:34:52,794 --> 01:34:56,514
Speaker 8: after twenty twenty one, Craft picked Mayo to sort of

2061
01:34:57,234 --> 01:35:02,194
Speaker 8: build that void, and for some reason, Belichick declined to

2062
01:35:02,274 --> 01:35:05,474
Speaker 8: do that for Mayo even though he did it for McDaniels.

2063
01:35:06,354 --> 01:35:11,634
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I really don't. I don't know.

2064
01:35:11,874 --> 01:35:16,074
Speaker 5: I don't know where that's coming from specifically two past years.

2065
01:35:16,194 --> 01:35:19,074
Speaker 5: Like I know, there's a lot of reporting out there

2066
01:35:19,154 --> 01:35:22,234
Speaker 5: about how it ended in terms of like this last

2067
01:35:22,314 --> 01:35:24,994
Speaker 5: year with Bill and then into now. Obviously Bill, I'm

2068
01:35:25,034 --> 01:35:27,794
Speaker 5: sure or is not on Girod's speed dial to ask

2069
01:35:27,914 --> 01:35:31,234
Speaker 5: him for advice right now. But going back to when

2070
01:35:31,314 --> 01:35:33,794
Speaker 5: McDaniels left and all this started to come to fruition,

2071
01:35:34,474 --> 01:35:39,314
Speaker 5: Gerrod was getting more responsibility behind the scenes in that

2072
01:35:39,634 --> 01:35:42,154
Speaker 5: like sort of head coach and waiting, you know, Bill's

2073
01:35:42,194 --> 01:35:45,274
Speaker 5: mentor sort of thing, you know, being in on interviews

2074
01:35:45,354 --> 01:35:49,314
Speaker 5: for offensive coordinator position scouting, you know, for the draft.

2075
01:35:49,394 --> 01:35:51,594
Speaker 5: You know, he was went out to Oregon to meet

2076
01:35:51,634 --> 01:35:54,794
Speaker 5: with Christian Gonzales privately before the draft, you know, little

2077
01:35:54,834 --> 01:35:56,474
Speaker 5: things like that. So I don't think that that's how

2078
01:35:56,514 --> 01:35:58,434
Speaker 5: it It might have been how it ended, but I

2079
01:35:58,474 --> 01:35:59,914
Speaker 5: don't think that that's how it started.

2080
01:36:00,514 --> 01:36:04,714
Speaker 2: Was Bill giving him that extra responsibility willingly or was

2081
01:36:04,754 --> 01:36:05,434
Speaker 2: he being forced in?

2082
01:36:05,594 --> 01:36:06,514
Speaker 5: I also can't answer that.

2083
01:36:06,714 --> 01:36:08,554
Speaker 6: I also don't know. I mean, I know what the

2084
01:36:08,674 --> 01:36:12,074
Speaker 6: reports are. Yeah, both ways. There was a report that

2085
01:36:12,434 --> 01:36:16,714
Speaker 6: he was quote opening up his worlds to Josh McDaniels. Yeah,

2086
01:36:17,474 --> 01:36:19,674
Speaker 6: I don't really think that we really saw any evidence

2087
01:36:19,714 --> 01:36:21,754
Speaker 6: of that. To be honest with you, I know that

2088
01:36:21,914 --> 01:36:23,754
Speaker 6: was the report, So I'm not saying that you're making

2089
01:36:23,834 --> 01:36:26,674
Speaker 6: stuff up. That was the That was absolutely a report

2090
01:36:26,714 --> 01:36:30,434
Speaker 6: at the time when Robert Kraft last you know, eleventh hour,

2091
01:36:30,554 --> 01:36:33,354
Speaker 6: convinced Josh McDaniels to not take the coach job and stay.

2092
01:36:34,074 --> 01:36:37,074
Speaker 6: It was one of the reasons. It was supposedly that

2093
01:36:38,394 --> 01:36:40,834
Speaker 6: there was an understanding that Bill was going to help

2094
01:36:41,514 --> 01:36:44,794
Speaker 6: Josh become a better head coach the second time around.

2095
01:36:44,634 --> 01:36:46,754
Speaker 2: Right, but not necessarily the head coach here.

2096
01:36:47,074 --> 01:36:49,594
Speaker 6: No, I never heard that, which also leads me to

2097
01:36:49,674 --> 01:36:52,274
Speaker 6: my second point. If in fact that was true and

2098
01:36:52,354 --> 01:36:54,714
Speaker 6: Bill was on board with helping Josh become a next

2099
01:36:54,754 --> 01:36:57,314
Speaker 6: head coach, it's a little different than helping the guy

2100
01:36:57,434 --> 01:37:01,434
Speaker 6: who has already been determined to be your successor we

2101
01:37:01,994 --> 01:37:07,794
Speaker 6: know now that Bill didn't want any part of stepping down. Yeah, right, right,

2102
01:37:08,114 --> 01:37:11,434
Speaker 6: So it stands to reason that he didn't take too

2103
01:37:11,514 --> 01:37:13,514
Speaker 6: kindly to a guy on his staff that was already

2104
01:37:13,674 --> 01:37:15,714
Speaker 6: is in hand picked successor.

2105
01:37:15,434 --> 01:37:18,394
Speaker 5: In contract in writing, hand picked success.

2106
01:37:18,154 --> 01:37:19,874
Speaker 2: Right, thanks, Kevin.

2107
01:37:20,154 --> 01:37:21,154
Speaker 4: Did Bill know that though?

2108
01:37:21,434 --> 01:37:25,714
Speaker 2: Yes he did, according to According to some it that way,

2109
01:37:25,794 --> 01:37:29,554
Speaker 2: And according to one thing I heard is that there

2110
01:37:30,834 --> 01:37:33,114
Speaker 2: there was an agreement that Bill could coach here as

2111
01:37:33,194 --> 01:37:36,634
Speaker 2: long as he took him to break the record, but

2112
01:37:36,794 --> 01:37:39,114
Speaker 2: that Mail was going to be the person after that.

2113
01:37:40,834 --> 01:37:45,074
Speaker 6: So so I can understand if Bill took that and said, Okay,

2114
01:37:45,514 --> 01:37:46,114
Speaker 6: good luck with that.

2115
01:37:46,554 --> 01:37:46,754
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2116
01:37:47,074 --> 01:37:48,434
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we've done that with.

2117
01:37:48,594 --> 01:37:51,874
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to go work for Underdog Fantasy.

2118
01:37:52,114 --> 01:37:53,594
Speaker 6: And I'm going to rip the Patriots every week.

2119
01:37:53,714 --> 01:37:53,794
Speaker 5: Right.

2120
01:37:53,994 --> 01:37:56,954
Speaker 4: I do think we were in Vegas that summer. I

2121
01:37:57,034 --> 01:37:58,834
Speaker 4: think they asked Josh about this a little bit, and

2122
01:37:58,914 --> 01:38:00,834
Speaker 4: I do think he kind of said that he was

2123
01:38:00,954 --> 01:38:03,714
Speaker 4: more involved behind the scenes and that he had learned more.

2124
01:38:04,434 --> 01:38:06,714
Speaker 4: But I just wonder if that's if Bill was open

2125
01:38:06,754 --> 01:38:08,274
Speaker 4: to it because he didn't feel like it was going

2126
01:38:08,354 --> 01:38:09,314
Speaker 4: to be replacing him.

2127
01:38:09,634 --> 01:38:10,274
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.

2128
01:38:10,794 --> 01:38:16,074
Speaker 2: It's different, It's different, It was different. Yeah, Yep. Trent

2129
01:38:16,234 --> 01:38:17,914
Speaker 2: is in Nebraska. What's up? Trent?

2130
01:38:20,794 --> 01:38:23,754
Speaker 5: Trent, Trent and Crim Trent Nebraska.

2131
01:38:25,674 --> 01:38:26,554
Speaker 2: He's not there anymore?

2132
01:38:26,674 --> 01:38:31,514
Speaker 6: Job hardy? Well, oh well, John goes the water. We

2133
01:38:31,634 --> 01:38:35,194
Speaker 6: got a mess. What happened my newest better jackknife on

2134
01:38:35,234 --> 01:38:37,674
Speaker 6: the Santa Ana? What god awful mess?

2135
01:38:37,834 --> 01:38:43,554
Speaker 2: What movies is from Fletch, Fletch, Fletch, chevy Chase.

2136
01:38:43,674 --> 01:38:45,714
Speaker 6: Any of my movie references have to be a minimum

2137
01:38:45,754 --> 01:38:46,474
Speaker 6: of forty years.

2138
01:38:46,354 --> 01:38:52,154
Speaker 2: Old, correct. Craig and Charlotte writes in Happy to see

2139
01:38:52,194 --> 01:38:55,434
Speaker 2: an emerging chemistry with May and Booty. This week felt

2140
01:38:55,514 --> 01:38:59,114
Speaker 2: like May looked his way for more than just deep shots.

2141
01:38:59,194 --> 01:39:01,994
Speaker 2: I have a minor knit to pick on Booty, though,

2142
01:39:02,314 --> 01:39:04,554
Speaker 2: seems like Booty doesn't really make much of an effort

2143
01:39:04,594 --> 01:39:07,034
Speaker 2: to contest the catch on those deep shots where there's

2144
01:39:07,074 --> 01:39:10,274
Speaker 2: a defender close. On the overtime interception, he didn't even

2145
01:39:10,314 --> 01:39:12,274
Speaker 2: try to make a play on the ball, And again

2146
01:39:12,354 --> 01:39:15,594
Speaker 2: this week on a deep incompletion, seemed like he maybe

2147
01:39:15,714 --> 01:39:18,914
Speaker 2: made a business decision. It didn't really jump. Just curious

2148
01:39:19,034 --> 01:39:21,714
Speaker 2: if you've noticed that too, or if I'm overreacting.

2149
01:39:22,034 --> 01:39:27,874
Speaker 5: Overreacting cool, but that's just me. Like the ball in overtime,

2150
01:39:28,114 --> 01:39:30,234
Speaker 5: I don't know what he wanted to do. It's ten

2151
01:39:30,314 --> 01:39:34,234
Speaker 5: yards underthrown. He's like he's going into the end zone. Like, yeah,

2152
01:39:34,274 --> 01:39:36,594
Speaker 5: I guess in theory he could have stopped, turned around,

2153
01:39:37,314 --> 01:39:39,394
Speaker 5: be lined for the ball and made like a moss

2154
01:39:39,554 --> 01:39:42,754
Speaker 5: like play on it. Like sure, I guess, I don't know,

2155
01:39:42,914 --> 01:39:45,194
Speaker 5: Like I I just I thought both of them were

2156
01:39:45,234 --> 01:39:47,794
Speaker 5: bad throws. I guess is where I more come on

2157
01:39:47,994 --> 01:39:50,474
Speaker 5: that that side of it. And I would also kind

2158
01:39:50,514 --> 01:39:54,074
Speaker 5: of push back about being this go to receiver. Let's

2159
01:39:54,434 --> 01:39:57,234
Speaker 5: maybe cool to jay that a little bit of chemistry though,

2160
01:39:57,714 --> 01:40:00,794
Speaker 5: uh trust, a little trust maybe, I think.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's a tight one of those pulling the triggers.

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01:40:04,474 --> 01:40:05,714
Speaker 2: Every once in a while, you got to make a

2163
01:40:05,754 --> 01:40:07,074
Speaker 2: booty call that.

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01:40:08,714 --> 01:40:11,034
Speaker 5: I just hear that a lot about those Oh booty

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01:40:11,074 --> 01:40:12,034
Speaker 5: didn't even try for it.

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01:40:12,154 --> 01:40:14,594
Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, I have heard that on the deep balls.

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01:40:14,634 --> 01:40:16,834
Speaker 6: But I kind of do think there's a little bit

2168
01:40:17,034 --> 01:40:20,874
Speaker 6: of chemistry developing now. I don't know what exactly. I

2169
01:40:20,914 --> 01:40:23,354
Speaker 6: don't know what the ceiling is for Keishaan Boody. Yeah,

2170
01:40:23,554 --> 01:40:26,234
Speaker 6: you know, I think that he's been a a good story.

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01:40:26,274 --> 01:40:28,314
Speaker 6: You know, I'll talk about like taking the coaching and

2172
01:40:28,354 --> 01:40:31,234
Speaker 6: all that. You listen to the way that Mayo and

2173
01:40:31,314 --> 01:40:34,994
Speaker 6: Van Pelt talked about his emergence and where he was

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01:40:35,314 --> 01:40:38,874
Speaker 6: sort of after, you know, into training camp, like they

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01:40:38,914 --> 01:40:40,314
Speaker 6: didn't even know for sure he was going to be

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01:40:40,354 --> 01:40:42,674
Speaker 6: on the team. And now you can make an argument

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Speaker 6: that he's the number one receiver, I mean in terms

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01:40:45,194 --> 01:40:46,194
Speaker 6: of usage anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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01:40:46,874 --> 01:40:49,834
Speaker 6: So I think there's a guy that he had, he

2181
01:40:49,874 --> 01:40:52,274
Speaker 6: had two choices, and he took the right path.

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01:40:52,354 --> 01:40:56,114
Speaker 5: He is and I think that he's proven that he

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01:40:56,274 --> 01:40:58,994
Speaker 5: belongs in an NFL receiver room. I'm not sure where

2184
01:40:59,154 --> 01:41:02,274
Speaker 5: in the hierarchy, but he belongs in the NFL receiver room.

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01:41:02,354 --> 01:41:05,114
Speaker 5: And one of the things I really like about Drake

2186
01:41:05,234 --> 01:41:08,114
Speaker 5: is that like he's not thinking to himself, well, this

2187
01:41:08,234 --> 01:41:09,794
Speaker 5: guy's not going to make a play on the ball,

2188
01:41:09,914 --> 01:41:11,914
Speaker 5: Like he just throws the ball where it's supposed to go.

2189
01:41:12,274 --> 01:41:15,314
Speaker 5: And he's trusting Booty on the other end. And there

2190
01:41:15,394 --> 01:41:17,514
Speaker 5: are times where he has rewarded him, like to throw

2191
01:41:17,634 --> 01:41:21,514
Speaker 5: before halftime, like that's in a key hole. And if

2192
01:41:21,554 --> 01:41:24,234
Speaker 5: you're thinking to yourself, this is Kaysehan Boody, this isn't

2193
01:41:24,554 --> 01:41:26,994
Speaker 5: you know, prime to Owens. You might not want to

2194
01:41:27,034 --> 01:41:29,834
Speaker 5: make that throw, but he made it. Anyway, and whody

2195
01:41:29,914 --> 01:41:30,474
Speaker 5: rewarded him.

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01:41:30,914 --> 01:41:34,554
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't know from not trusting guys yet, you

2197
01:41:34,634 --> 01:41:38,474
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's just let's see buzzsaw on

2198
01:41:38,514 --> 01:41:41,914
Speaker 2: the White Mountains rights in. I watched Drake's postgame comments

2199
01:41:41,954 --> 01:41:43,874
Speaker 2: at the podium and I heard two words I have

2200
01:41:44,154 --> 01:41:48,714
Speaker 2: never heard from a quarterback before. Bless you. As you

2201
01:41:48,794 --> 01:41:51,674
Speaker 2: guys mentioned on the postgame show, he blessed someone when

2202
01:41:51,714 --> 01:41:54,434
Speaker 2: they sneeze. It is a really small thing, I know,

2203
01:41:54,634 --> 01:41:57,154
Speaker 2: but just shows you a lot about Drake May.

2204
01:41:57,594 --> 01:41:59,194
Speaker 5: What did you think about him clapping up for the

2205
01:41:59,234 --> 01:42:00,794
Speaker 5: defense away.

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01:42:00,874 --> 01:42:02,834
Speaker 6: I think I Brendan's school are an apology.

2207
01:42:03,514 --> 01:42:04,154
Speaker 2: Who do you think that?

2208
01:42:04,594 --> 01:42:08,794
Speaker 6: If that warrants back, then, so Brendan's School needs all

2209
01:42:08,794 --> 01:42:09,314
Speaker 6: a protest.

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01:42:09,434 --> 01:42:12,634
Speaker 2: There was one one person in the audience who did clap.

2211
01:42:13,314 --> 01:42:15,914
Speaker 6: Oh you knew that well, he said it, he said

2212
01:42:15,914 --> 01:42:16,394
Speaker 6: it on the air.

2213
01:42:16,514 --> 01:42:19,674
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, all right. I also love the way he

2214
01:42:19,794 --> 01:42:23,154
Speaker 2: focuses on each person asking a question and stares right

2215
01:42:23,234 --> 01:42:25,914
Speaker 2: at them. You know, he's processing what a question is

2216
01:42:25,954 --> 01:42:27,794
Speaker 2: asking and wants to answer it as best as he

2217
01:42:27,874 --> 01:42:30,874
Speaker 2: can and as honestly he can. One thing you guys

2218
01:42:30,914 --> 01:42:33,634
Speaker 2: should look at at the end of the half when

2219
01:42:33,714 --> 01:42:36,234
Speaker 2: Drake spiked it to stop the clock before the field goal,

2220
01:42:36,554 --> 01:42:39,034
Speaker 2: I saw Hunter Henry skipping off the field in a

2221
01:42:39,114 --> 01:42:42,674
Speaker 2: sign of elation. As an offensive captain, Hunter is showing

2222
01:42:43,114 --> 01:42:45,954
Speaker 2: that this team is behind their quarterback and they are

2223
01:42:46,074 --> 01:42:46,794
Speaker 2: having fun.

2224
01:42:47,314 --> 01:42:50,114
Speaker 6: See, I would agree with that. It took them ten weeks,

2225
01:42:50,754 --> 01:42:53,074
Speaker 6: and I would if I was Hunter Henry, I'd have

2226
01:42:53,114 --> 01:42:53,834
Speaker 6: been skipping off the.

2227
01:42:53,834 --> 01:42:56,514
Speaker 2: Field too, like we you know, we we did it.

2228
01:42:56,594 --> 01:42:57,554
Speaker 2: We pulled one of these off.

2229
01:42:57,674 --> 01:42:58,034
Speaker 3: We did it.

2230
01:42:58,154 --> 01:42:59,474
Speaker 6: This is how it's supposed to work.

2231
01:42:59,554 --> 01:43:01,154
Speaker 5: We did it to be fair. They also did it

2232
01:43:01,194 --> 01:43:03,794
Speaker 5: against Houston sudden. Well, that was.

2233
01:43:05,474 --> 01:43:05,674
Speaker 2: Fair.

2234
01:43:06,034 --> 01:43:09,514
Speaker 6: They scored against Houston with a terrific play and all

2235
01:43:09,554 --> 01:43:12,234
Speaker 6: that I'm talking about the situation, Yes, all of the

2236
01:43:12,314 --> 01:43:15,594
Speaker 6: things that go into the two minute drill. And because

2237
01:43:15,634 --> 01:43:17,034
Speaker 6: I gotta be honest with you, when they threw that

2238
01:43:17,114 --> 01:43:19,914
Speaker 6: pass down the middle, I was like, what are they doing?

2239
01:43:20,554 --> 01:43:22,794
Speaker 6: They're not going to have time. Yeah, Now it turns

2240
01:43:22,834 --> 01:43:26,474
Speaker 6: out they they had a second to spare, give that situation.

2241
01:43:27,994 --> 01:43:30,514
Speaker 5: Run the ball on third and one. They ran the

2242
01:43:30,594 --> 01:43:32,874
Speaker 5: ball on third and one, and it cost him a

2243
01:43:32,954 --> 01:43:36,154
Speaker 5: timeout because they ran the ball with Hasty on third

2244
01:43:36,194 --> 01:43:38,834
Speaker 5: and one with sixteen seconds left, ish and they had

2245
01:43:38,874 --> 01:43:39,994
Speaker 5: to burn their last time out.

2246
01:43:40,034 --> 01:43:42,354
Speaker 6: To Evans's point, you throw it on third and one

2247
01:43:42,554 --> 01:43:44,874
Speaker 6: if it's incomplete. Now you can run it on fourth

2248
01:43:44,954 --> 01:43:47,994
Speaker 6: and one if you want, yeah, and then use the timeout.

2249
01:43:48,074 --> 01:43:49,674
Speaker 2: But even if you throw it, though, it's got to

2250
01:43:49,714 --> 01:43:52,554
Speaker 2: be the sideline right well.

2251
01:43:52,634 --> 01:43:54,994
Speaker 6: No, Like, if you throw it, you're gonna get yards,

2252
01:43:55,194 --> 01:43:57,194
Speaker 6: right and you don't necessarily have to run like I

2253
01:43:57,594 --> 01:43:58,394
Speaker 6: think Evan's dead on.

2254
01:43:58,634 --> 01:43:59,794
Speaker 5: It was the one thing about.

2255
01:43:59,554 --> 01:44:01,394
Speaker 6: You're gonna get three yards on the run.

2256
01:44:01,874 --> 01:44:04,314
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's four yards on the run. They picked up

2257
01:44:04,354 --> 01:44:06,594
Speaker 5: the first down and then the booty play happens right

2258
01:44:06,674 --> 01:44:09,594
Speaker 5: after that. If they save that time out, the booty

2259
01:44:09,674 --> 01:44:11,514
Speaker 5: play happens. Now they have a shot at the end

2260
01:44:11,594 --> 01:44:13,514
Speaker 5: zone and then they can kick the field goal right

2261
01:44:13,674 --> 01:44:16,554
Speaker 5: like that. So it's just like maximizing the time there.

2262
01:44:16,634 --> 01:44:19,194
Speaker 5: But it wasn't n picky thing. Hunter Henry a great

2263
01:44:19,274 --> 01:44:21,234
Speaker 5: run blocking game in this game. He was excellent.

2264
01:44:21,354 --> 01:44:23,994
Speaker 6: That's what Bob big Nell keeps talking about him. Awesome

2265
01:44:24,634 --> 01:44:25,954
Speaker 6: getting for his blocking.

2266
01:44:26,074 --> 01:44:29,114
Speaker 2: Yeah. He also says on another note, in my last email,

2267
01:44:29,194 --> 01:44:32,594
Speaker 2: I reprimanded Paul for talking over people and not listening

2268
01:44:32,634 --> 01:44:34,914
Speaker 2: to them. I was rather amazed at how he took

2269
01:44:34,994 --> 01:44:38,754
Speaker 2: the criticism graciously and actually agreed with me. I've also

2270
01:44:38,914 --> 01:44:41,354
Speaker 2: noticed that Paul has tried to do better in this respect.

2271
01:44:41,434 --> 01:44:44,994
Speaker 6: But for you, Paul, I'll push back on the last part.

2272
01:44:45,034 --> 01:44:51,314
Speaker 2: But and I actually loved it when Evan said to Paul,

2273
01:44:51,474 --> 01:44:53,994
Speaker 2: let me finish when he was making a point. I

2274
01:44:54,074 --> 01:44:57,274
Speaker 2: took that as growth on Evan's part. And do love

2275
01:44:57,354 --> 01:45:00,114
Speaker 2: it when he asserts himself with Barthy on catch twenty two,

2276
01:45:00,634 --> 01:45:02,874
Speaker 2: let's stab some wins that thanks for providing so much

2277
01:45:02,914 --> 01:45:05,514
Speaker 2: football content in an objective manner.

2278
01:45:05,634 --> 01:45:07,354
Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes you have to tell Barth to go sit

2279
01:45:07,434 --> 01:45:11,234
Speaker 5: in the corner. You know, you're trying to make a point,

2280
01:45:11,354 --> 01:45:12,234
Speaker 5: and he's just you know.

2281
01:45:12,634 --> 01:45:15,154
Speaker 4: Did you hear from Banks Navy game?

2282
01:45:15,354 --> 01:45:18,834
Speaker 5: I was announce I did, but he's he's I've got

2283
01:45:18,954 --> 01:45:19,994
Speaker 5: multiple texts about it.

2284
01:45:20,154 --> 01:45:25,874
Speaker 4: Halloween. Why didn't you mention Thatlloween announced nice twenty twenty

2285
01:45:25,954 --> 01:45:28,714
Speaker 4: six Notre Dame Navy here Chilette Stadium.

2286
01:45:28,914 --> 01:45:32,113
Speaker 5: Yep, he actually said the exact thing that one Bradley

2287
01:45:32,154 --> 01:45:35,074
Speaker 5: Amos said in the meeting about why Navy and Notre

2288
01:45:35,194 --> 01:45:39,114
Speaker 5: Dame play each other every single year? And oh yeah,

2289
01:45:39,114 --> 01:45:41,674
Speaker 5: And I was like, I've you know. I already know

2290
01:45:41,914 --> 01:45:44,074
Speaker 5: all about this because the Bradley Thank you, though.

2291
01:45:44,034 --> 01:45:44,754
Speaker 2: For telling me.

2292
01:45:44,914 --> 01:45:47,074
Speaker 6: I knew they played every year. I just I wasn't

2293
01:45:47,114 --> 01:45:49,474
Speaker 6: aware that that game moved around. I thought they played

2294
01:45:49,474 --> 01:45:52,874
Speaker 6: at Notre Dame and at the Naval Academy, or you know,

2295
01:45:53,634 --> 01:45:56,754
Speaker 6: somewhere big Ireland. You know, maybe like the Raven what's

2296
01:45:56,794 --> 01:45:59,074
Speaker 6: the Raven Stadium nowadays? M and T Banks Stadium or

2297
01:45:59,114 --> 01:46:01,074
Speaker 6: something like that, Like maybe they play there.

2298
01:46:02,154 --> 01:46:05,274
Speaker 2: Let's see. Anthony and Richmond Virginia loved the podcast, been

2299
01:46:05,314 --> 01:46:08,474
Speaker 2: listening for years and it has only improved, like fine

2300
01:46:08,554 --> 01:46:11,554
Speaker 2: wine over the years. I feel like I'm the only

2301
01:46:11,714 --> 01:46:15,474
Speaker 2: one that is not interested in Travis Hunter. I can't

2302
01:46:15,514 --> 01:46:18,434
Speaker 2: help but think of Taevon Austen, a free college athlete,

2303
01:46:18,714 --> 01:46:20,554
Speaker 2: I could do anything for the college team, but when

2304
01:46:20,554 --> 01:46:23,034
Speaker 2: he gets to the professional level, he could often be

2305
01:46:23,154 --> 01:46:26,554
Speaker 2: hurt and unavailable, ultimately leading to a career that doesn't

2306
01:46:26,554 --> 01:46:29,074
Speaker 2: sound like a top ten talent to me. I'd much

2307
01:46:29,274 --> 01:46:32,194
Speaker 2: rather get a Will Campbell or Ted McMillan at that

2308
01:46:32,314 --> 01:46:34,554
Speaker 2: point in the draft. With a lean toward Campbell, He's

2309
01:46:35,074 --> 01:46:37,234
Speaker 2: rarely beat in the SEC and would be the best

2310
01:46:37,314 --> 01:46:41,554
Speaker 2: O line O Ligneman for the Patriots, regardless if he

2311
01:46:41,714 --> 01:46:43,354
Speaker 2: plays tackle or guard.

2312
01:46:43,674 --> 01:46:46,434
Speaker 5: Okay, first of all, put some respect on Tavon Austin's name,

2313
01:46:46,714 --> 01:46:49,834
Speaker 5: all right, very good player ahead of his time. Like

2314
01:46:49,914 --> 01:46:53,634
Speaker 5: if Tavon Austin was playing Now and Chiefs with all

2315
01:46:53,754 --> 01:46:55,714
Speaker 5: with all the cheap motions and all the different like

2316
01:46:55,954 --> 01:46:58,514
Speaker 5: things that they do, but before the snap now you know,

2317
01:46:58,714 --> 01:47:01,554
Speaker 5: like Tyreek Hill style, he still wouldn't be worth the well,

2318
01:47:01,954 --> 01:47:04,994
Speaker 5: he would be fantastic or whatever it was. Second of all,

2319
01:47:06,354 --> 01:47:08,114
Speaker 5: you know, look, I get the appeal of Travis Hunter.

2320
01:47:08,634 --> 01:47:11,594
Speaker 5: I do, and just from a markability standpoint, I mean

2321
01:47:11,674 --> 01:47:14,474
Speaker 5: he's he's off the charts in terms of that. But

2322
01:47:15,474 --> 01:47:17,954
Speaker 5: you know, the smart thing to do, in my opinion,

2323
01:47:18,274 --> 01:47:20,834
Speaker 5: is to get your socks for Christmas. You know, he

2324
01:47:21,034 --> 01:47:22,634
Speaker 5: hit it right down the middle of the fairway, and

2325
01:47:22,714 --> 01:47:25,154
Speaker 5: draft one of these tackles and start to build up

2326
01:47:25,154 --> 01:47:26,714
Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage. I know it's not going to

2327
01:47:26,754 --> 01:47:28,994
Speaker 5: be exciting, it's not going to be uh, you know,

2328
01:47:29,194 --> 01:47:32,154
Speaker 5: the shiny new toy. But I think the Patriots need

2329
01:47:32,194 --> 01:47:34,274
Speaker 5: to have him meat and potatoes draft this year. And

2330
01:47:34,474 --> 01:47:35,594
Speaker 5: it starts with the left hand.

2331
01:47:35,674 --> 01:47:38,114
Speaker 6: Me too, I'm on board with that, and I would

2332
01:47:38,154 --> 01:47:42,154
Speaker 6: just real quick. I think our buddy No Socks has

2333
01:47:42,514 --> 01:47:47,194
Speaker 6: sort of started this, Like Travis Hunter is six one five,

2334
01:47:48,074 --> 01:47:51,154
Speaker 6: He's not Taevon Austin, who was like five eight right

2335
01:47:51,634 --> 01:47:54,674
Speaker 6: like he I don't know what Travis Hunter is going

2336
01:47:54,714 --> 01:47:56,594
Speaker 6: to be. I'm not a professional scout and I don't

2337
01:47:56,594 --> 01:48:00,234
Speaker 6: pretend to be one, but shots fire. Matt Smith keeps

2338
01:48:00,274 --> 01:48:02,274
Speaker 6: saying he's too small to take with the number one

2339
01:48:02,314 --> 01:48:04,674
Speaker 6: overall pick. He'd take him at like five, but he

2340
01:48:04,714 --> 01:48:10,234
Speaker 6: wouldn't take him at I'm just Mike, have I mischaracterized anything?

2341
01:48:10,954 --> 01:48:13,554
Speaker 6: His size would lead Matt to not want to take

2342
01:48:13,594 --> 01:48:15,314
Speaker 6: him with the number one overall five down four pick

2343
01:48:15,394 --> 01:48:19,434
Speaker 6: because he's too small. Right when you're in college and

2344
01:48:19,514 --> 01:48:21,634
Speaker 6: you're six to one eighty five, I don't think that's

2345
01:48:21,714 --> 01:48:25,794
Speaker 6: too small. I think you theoretically get a little bit bigger.

2346
01:48:25,794 --> 01:48:28,234
Speaker 6: You'll probably be closer to two hundred pounds by the

2347
01:48:28,314 --> 01:48:31,834
Speaker 6: time you're an NFL player. And I mean, I don't know.

2348
01:48:31,954 --> 01:48:34,994
Speaker 6: Maybe in maybe they they're doctoring the numbers. Maybe he's

2349
01:48:35,034 --> 01:48:38,354
Speaker 6: not six to one, maybe he's maybe he's smaller than that.

2350
01:48:38,434 --> 01:48:40,834
Speaker 6: That's what he's listed as, So I don't know what

2351
01:48:40,954 --> 01:48:45,034
Speaker 6: he's actual sizes. We'll see at the combine. But DeVante

2352
01:48:45,114 --> 01:48:47,234
Speaker 6: Smith was like one hundred and sixty pounds coming out

2353
01:48:47,274 --> 01:48:49,834
Speaker 6: of Alabama as the as the Heisman Trophy winner, and

2354
01:48:49,954 --> 01:48:53,634
Speaker 6: everybody said the same thing about him. I would certainly

2355
01:48:53,674 --> 01:48:56,194
Speaker 6: take him on my team any day, any day.

2356
01:48:56,314 --> 01:48:56,434
Speaker 2: Now.

2357
01:48:56,434 --> 01:48:58,234
Speaker 6: I don't know if he was the number one overall.

2358
01:48:57,994 --> 01:48:59,674
Speaker 2: Pickworthy or whatever.

2359
01:48:59,754 --> 01:49:02,394
Speaker 6: He what do you go like, like twelve? I mean

2360
01:49:02,634 --> 01:49:03,794
Speaker 6: somewhere does it matter?

2361
01:49:04,114 --> 01:49:04,234
Speaker 3: Right?

2362
01:49:04,714 --> 01:49:04,754
Speaker 15: Like?

2363
01:49:04,874 --> 01:49:09,194
Speaker 6: And he's tiny, tiny, gotta be good, a good enough player.

2364
01:49:09,274 --> 01:49:12,434
Speaker 5: He's the best player in the draft. But in my opinion,

2365
01:49:12,714 --> 01:49:15,714
Speaker 5: he's a corner, right and so that but the question

2366
01:49:15,914 --> 01:49:20,074
Speaker 5: that I have isn't necessarily doubt of which position he

2367
01:49:20,354 --> 01:49:22,794
Speaker 5: is because he's a corner. But is he going to

2368
01:49:22,874 --> 01:49:23,634
Speaker 5: want to be a corner?

2369
01:49:23,914 --> 01:49:24,114
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2370
01:49:25,034 --> 01:49:25,234
Speaker 2: Great?

2371
01:49:25,434 --> 01:49:26,674
Speaker 6: Point is a big part of it.

2372
01:49:27,354 --> 01:49:29,874
Speaker 5: And I would also say, like, if he wants to

2373
01:49:29,914 --> 01:49:33,754
Speaker 5: play both ways in the pros, then I think he's

2374
01:49:33,914 --> 01:49:35,914
Speaker 5: fooling himself that he's going to be able to do

2375
01:49:35,994 --> 01:49:39,354
Speaker 5: what he's doing right now at Colorado in the NFL level.

2376
01:49:39,834 --> 01:49:43,114
Speaker 5: So how do you work? That whole thing is tough?

2377
01:49:43,394 --> 01:49:47,634
Speaker 2: Why? Why is it so much more crazy for someone

2378
01:49:47,754 --> 01:49:49,634
Speaker 2: to play both ways now than it used to be

2379
01:49:51,634 --> 01:49:53,434
Speaker 2: the game's the same length. Very tough game.

2380
01:49:53,514 --> 01:49:55,634
Speaker 6: Well when wasn't When wasn't it kind of crazy to

2381
01:49:55,874 --> 01:49:57,074
Speaker 6: think could play both ways?

2382
01:49:57,194 --> 01:49:59,474
Speaker 2: Yeah back in the day, guys played both ways in

2383
01:49:59,554 --> 01:50:02,754
Speaker 2: the sixties. Yeah, he's still sixty minute game.

2384
01:50:02,914 --> 01:50:07,234
Speaker 5: I just I think it's really unrealistic. Now, maybe could

2385
01:50:07,274 --> 01:50:12,634
Speaker 5: he play sort of like how they've used Marcus Jones

2386
01:50:12,674 --> 01:50:14,834
Speaker 5: in the past, where he's got a package of plays

2387
01:50:14,874 --> 01:50:17,474
Speaker 5: on offense and four or five times a game, you

2388
01:50:17,634 --> 01:50:19,594
Speaker 5: just scheme something to get him the football because he's

2389
01:50:19,634 --> 01:50:22,594
Speaker 5: so dynamic. Like sure, like I guess in theory he

2390
01:50:22,674 --> 01:50:25,034
Speaker 5: could do something like that, but he's not a full

2391
01:50:25,074 --> 01:50:27,194
Speaker 5: time I'm two way player. Like, I just don't think

2392
01:50:27,234 --> 01:50:29,314
Speaker 5: you can do that. I think that's where I'm at.

2393
01:50:29,354 --> 01:50:31,034
Speaker 4: And like I'm a little torn on this one because

2394
01:50:31,154 --> 01:50:32,794
Speaker 4: as you start to look at some of the receivers,

2395
01:50:32,834 --> 01:50:35,834
Speaker 4: like I just feel like they need an explosive player.

2396
01:50:35,954 --> 01:50:38,394
Speaker 4: And again, don't want to get into the one, two, three,

2397
01:50:38,714 --> 01:50:40,514
Speaker 4: X y Z of it all, but like you know,

2398
01:50:40,794 --> 01:50:43,354
Speaker 4: McMillan more of the big size kind of guy, and

2399
01:50:43,394 --> 01:50:44,994
Speaker 4: I know that there's a school of thought of that's

2400
01:50:45,074 --> 01:50:46,954
Speaker 4: you know what you want, But I just think this

2401
01:50:47,074 --> 01:50:51,554
Speaker 4: offense needs somebody with electric juice, and Hunter has that,

2402
01:50:52,714 --> 01:50:54,394
Speaker 4: but it's hard to make it line up. And if

2403
01:50:54,394 --> 01:50:56,634
Speaker 4: you were telling me that he's a receiver one hundred percent,

2404
01:50:56,714 --> 01:50:58,754
Speaker 4: then I think I might be a little bit more

2405
01:50:58,794 --> 01:51:00,954
Speaker 4: on board with it. But like you said, everybody like,

2406
01:51:01,114 --> 01:51:03,034
Speaker 4: I mean, this is stupid. This is way too specific.

2407
01:51:03,114 --> 01:51:05,834
Speaker 4: But like you get to the super Bowl, it's the

2408
01:51:05,954 --> 01:51:08,314
Speaker 4: longest game, Like is he like this is stupid, I know,

2409
01:51:08,434 --> 01:51:09,994
Speaker 4: but like, is he gonna make the same impact in

2410
01:51:10,034 --> 01:51:12,594
Speaker 4: the lungs game like the super Bowl when it's defenses

2411
01:51:12,634 --> 01:51:15,114
Speaker 4: are gassed and and he's gonna be able? You know,

2412
01:51:15,234 --> 01:51:17,674
Speaker 4: I know that that's like getting way, way, way too

2413
01:51:17,794 --> 01:51:20,554
Speaker 4: far ahead of yourself, But I just think the bottom

2414
01:51:20,554 --> 01:51:22,514
Speaker 4: line for me looking into this is like, give me

2415
01:51:23,114 --> 01:51:26,714
Speaker 4: speed and explosiveness, well not tied that time speed, give

2416
01:51:26,794 --> 01:51:26,994
Speaker 4: me that.

2417
01:51:27,234 --> 01:51:28,714
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I know, and like I said, if he

2418
01:51:28,794 --> 01:51:31,474
Speaker 5: was just a receiver, like yes, yeah, but I just

2419
01:51:31,554 --> 01:51:33,194
Speaker 5: think he's gonna want to play a receiver because they're

2420
01:51:33,194 --> 01:51:36,594
Speaker 5: getting paid thirty million dollars a year. So like, you know,

2421
01:51:36,674 --> 01:51:39,474
Speaker 5: he's gonna look at it and he's gonna say, well, yeah,

2422
01:51:39,514 --> 01:51:41,754
Speaker 5: i'd probably be an all pro corner. But you know,

2423
01:51:42,114 --> 01:51:44,834
Speaker 5: I'm gonna probably tap out at twenty at the most,

2424
01:51:45,354 --> 01:51:48,194
Speaker 5: or I could be a really good receiver and make thirty,

2425
01:51:48,554 --> 01:51:50,914
Speaker 5: Like which one would you rather do? But I just

2426
01:51:50,954 --> 01:51:53,874
Speaker 5: think he's his body type, the way he moves, like

2427
01:51:54,034 --> 01:51:56,474
Speaker 5: everything screams corner more than he does receive.

2428
01:51:56,594 --> 01:51:58,754
Speaker 6: And I certainly wouldn't take a guy with the intentions

2429
01:51:58,794 --> 01:51:59,834
Speaker 6: on playing them both ways.

2430
01:52:00,114 --> 01:52:00,194
Speaker 15: Now.

2431
01:52:00,274 --> 01:52:04,794
Speaker 6: I made someone in the mailbag this week. I thought

2432
01:52:05,754 --> 01:52:07,714
Speaker 6: kind of put a really interesting twist on it. It's

2433
01:52:07,754 --> 01:52:11,274
Speaker 6: like he's he's kind of like a draft pick that

2434
01:52:11,394 --> 01:52:14,994
Speaker 6: you're increasing your odds because whatever you want to play

2435
01:52:15,034 --> 01:52:16,794
Speaker 6: him at, you can play him there, and if you

2436
01:52:16,834 --> 01:52:19,674
Speaker 6: don't think he's great, you can always try the other

2437
01:52:19,714 --> 01:52:23,354
Speaker 6: position with almost like equal chances of it hitting. And

2438
01:52:23,434 --> 01:52:26,554
Speaker 6: then if he ends up being really good at bowls.

2439
01:52:26,474 --> 01:52:28,914
Speaker 2: That's a great problem. You get two shots, right, It's

2440
01:52:28,914 --> 01:52:31,194
Speaker 2: almost like you get two shots. Yeah, that was his point,

2441
01:52:31,594 --> 01:52:31,794
Speaker 2: and I.

2442
01:52:31,834 --> 01:52:34,314
Speaker 6: Thought, I haven't really heard it phrase that way. I

2443
01:52:34,354 --> 01:52:35,314
Speaker 6: thought it was a good way to look.

2444
01:52:35,354 --> 01:52:37,794
Speaker 5: If they draft Travis Hunter, I will not knock him

2445
01:52:37,834 --> 01:52:38,034
Speaker 5: for it.

2446
01:52:38,554 --> 01:52:38,834
Speaker 3: I won't.

2447
01:52:38,874 --> 01:52:40,074
Speaker 5: He's the best player in the draft.

2448
01:52:40,234 --> 01:52:42,114
Speaker 4: I just I just don't think it's gonna line up

2449
01:52:42,114 --> 01:52:43,474
Speaker 4: so it's not like, yeah, they were in the first

2450
01:52:43,514 --> 01:52:45,514
Speaker 4: overall pick, this would be the discussion we would have

2451
01:52:45,594 --> 01:52:47,794
Speaker 4: for four straight months. But if they do end up,

2452
01:52:47,834 --> 01:52:50,074
Speaker 4: so if this was last week, we have this talk, yeah,

2453
01:52:50,594 --> 01:52:51,794
Speaker 4: I think this week it's seven.

2454
01:52:51,834 --> 01:52:51,994
Speaker 2: Think.

2455
01:52:53,234 --> 01:52:54,834
Speaker 5: I don't think you can take him number one overall,

2456
01:52:54,914 --> 01:52:57,194
Speaker 5: not because of him, but I just I wouldn't take

2457
01:52:57,194 --> 01:52:59,114
Speaker 5: anything that's not a quarterback number one overall.

2458
01:52:59,194 --> 01:53:02,234
Speaker 6: And I don't think the Patriots can afford the luxury

2459
01:53:02,274 --> 01:53:05,194
Speaker 6: of Travis Hunter with their first pick. I agree with Evan, Yeah,

2460
01:53:05,274 --> 01:53:09,034
Speaker 6: I think unless there's just like Will Campbell was like

2461
01:53:09,074 --> 01:53:12,314
Speaker 6: the most overrated fraud out there. I don't see how

2462
01:53:12,394 --> 01:53:14,114
Speaker 6: you can't try to get in position. If you don't

2463
01:53:14,114 --> 01:53:16,474
Speaker 6: think he's worth like the fifth pick, then move down

2464
01:53:16,514 --> 01:53:18,514
Speaker 6: to twelve and take him or wherever you have to go.

2465
01:53:19,114 --> 01:53:21,034
Speaker 6: I think you need to address the offensive line. I

2466
01:53:21,034 --> 01:53:22,394
Speaker 6: don't think they can afford the luxury of.

2467
01:53:22,394 --> 01:53:26,474
Speaker 5: A teoy I don't think they can stretch agency offensive line.

2468
01:53:26,554 --> 01:53:29,794
Speaker 6: Now the offensive line, No, really, you've changed your stance,

2469
01:53:29,874 --> 01:53:33,874
Speaker 6: Paul to get a front line left tackle like once,

2470
01:53:34,434 --> 01:53:37,073
Speaker 6: like Orlando Brown. That's like the only example.

2471
01:53:37,194 --> 01:53:39,514
Speaker 2: So so you're you're dead set that they have to

2472
01:53:39,594 --> 01:53:41,714
Speaker 2: get an elite left tackle.

2473
01:53:41,754 --> 01:53:45,754
Speaker 6: I think you do. Yes, you not believe that left tackle?

2474
01:53:46,354 --> 01:53:47,834
Speaker 6: You tell me that. You tell me the time that

2475
01:53:47,874 --> 01:53:49,914
Speaker 6: I said you don't need a good left tackle, now

2476
01:53:49,994 --> 01:53:52,474
Speaker 6: you just changed that to good elite. Tell me when

2477
01:53:52,514 --> 01:53:55,874
Speaker 6: I said that you don't need always no, the rest

2478
01:53:55,914 --> 01:53:57,434
Speaker 6: of them you can get in the fifth and sixth

2479
01:53:57,554 --> 01:54:01,554
Speaker 6: seventh undrafted Joe and drewsy plug him in Bang. Yeah,

2480
01:54:01,714 --> 01:54:05,274
Speaker 6: you need a good left tackle, good good unless you

2481
01:54:05,354 --> 01:54:08,114
Speaker 6: have again, unless you have Tom Brady. But you need

2482
01:54:08,154 --> 01:54:08,954
Speaker 6: a good left tackle.

2483
01:54:09,074 --> 01:54:11,074
Speaker 2: You're not light a good left tackle. They got him

2484
01:54:11,074 --> 01:54:11,754
Speaker 2: in the second round.

2485
01:54:11,834 --> 01:54:14,314
Speaker 6: He was good, okay, not great, right, and they don't

2486
01:54:14,354 --> 01:54:16,514
Speaker 6: have Tom Brady. I know, but like that's why Matt

2487
01:54:16,794 --> 01:54:18,594
Speaker 6: was a good left tackle without Tom Brady.

2488
01:54:18,994 --> 01:54:21,114
Speaker 2: But you are you saying Matt like's not good enough

2489
01:54:21,154 --> 01:54:23,474
Speaker 2: on this team? No, okay, I just want to make

2490
01:54:23,514 --> 01:54:24,034
Speaker 2: sure on.

2491
01:54:24,154 --> 01:54:27,114
Speaker 6: This team right now, he'd be light years better than Daria.

2492
01:54:27,314 --> 01:54:30,314
Speaker 2: Would he be good enough for this team? Yes? Better

2493
01:54:30,314 --> 01:54:32,874
Speaker 2: than I don't need an elite left tackle to be

2494
01:54:33,034 --> 01:54:36,154
Speaker 2: what to be a good left tackle and to contribute

2495
01:54:36,194 --> 01:54:36,994
Speaker 2: to your team winning.

2496
01:54:37,074 --> 01:54:37,874
Speaker 6: He thinks he's boxing.

2497
01:54:38,114 --> 01:54:38,714
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?

2498
01:54:38,754 --> 01:54:41,434
Speaker 6: And you're not gonna win. Why because you're not good enough?

2499
01:54:41,794 --> 01:54:42,954
Speaker 6: But he'd be your left tackle.

2500
01:54:42,994 --> 01:54:45,514
Speaker 2: He's way better than you, don't think With Matt Light

2501
01:54:45,594 --> 01:54:48,834
Speaker 2: on this team, they could win win what football games?

2502
01:54:49,114 --> 01:54:50,274
Speaker 6: Not enough to make the playoffs?

2503
01:54:50,434 --> 01:54:53,474
Speaker 2: Really? Wow? No, he's a Hall of Famer, Paul, No,

2504
01:54:53,594 --> 01:54:55,554
Speaker 2: he's not. He's a Patriots Hall of Fame.

2505
01:54:55,634 --> 01:54:57,954
Speaker 6: That's a big difference, much like the BU Baseball Hall

2506
01:54:57,954 --> 01:55:01,394
Speaker 6: of Fame is a lot different than athleticrillo be you baseball?

2507
01:55:02,154 --> 01:55:04,954
Speaker 6: Uh nothing, hall of Fame the same as Patriots Hall

2508
01:55:04,994 --> 01:55:06,034
Speaker 6: of Fame. Zero sum.

2509
01:55:06,194 --> 01:55:06,434
Speaker 2: Wow.

2510
01:55:06,554 --> 01:55:08,234
Speaker 5: I mean if he was on the seventies Steelers, he'd

2511
01:55:08,274 --> 01:55:09,554
Speaker 5: be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame too.

2512
01:55:09,634 --> 01:55:11,394
Speaker 2: No, No, I just want to I just want to

2513
01:55:11,434 --> 01:55:13,474
Speaker 2: hear your stance. The Patriots need.

2514
01:55:13,794 --> 01:55:15,554
Speaker 6: Better get on the semantics all you want.

2515
01:55:15,674 --> 01:55:16,794
Speaker 2: No, it's not semantics.

2516
01:55:16,874 --> 01:55:18,194
Speaker 6: They need a good left tackle.

2517
01:55:18,234 --> 01:55:19,754
Speaker 2: Can we all agree whether we're gonna call him a

2518
01:55:19,834 --> 01:55:22,354
Speaker 2: league whatever you want to call him. But I think

2519
01:55:22,394 --> 01:55:24,834
Speaker 2: that's the number you have to get that tackle high

2520
01:55:24,874 --> 01:55:27,314
Speaker 2: up in the draft. I think if you want a

2521
01:55:27,354 --> 01:55:29,074
Speaker 2: good left tackle, you need to take him early in

2522
01:55:29,114 --> 01:55:31,154
Speaker 2: the draft. Okay, I just want to be clear about it.

2523
01:55:31,154 --> 01:55:33,234
Speaker 6: If that is that not true. If I know I'm wrong,

2524
01:55:33,634 --> 01:55:34,514
Speaker 6: I don't have to be right.

2525
01:55:34,674 --> 01:55:36,954
Speaker 2: Matt Light I thought was a good left tackle and

2526
01:55:36,994 --> 01:55:37,874
Speaker 2: he was second round.

2527
01:55:39,034 --> 01:55:40,514
Speaker 5: I'm still a high second round pick though.

2528
01:55:40,634 --> 01:55:44,474
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I don't think high in the draft. Okay,

2529
01:55:44,594 --> 01:55:46,194
Speaker 2: you're right. I don't know.

2530
01:55:46,434 --> 01:55:48,634
Speaker 6: I don't think Matt Light was all that good, but

2531
01:55:49,434 --> 01:55:51,554
Speaker 6: he was good enough left tackle to win three Super Bowls.

2532
01:55:52,594 --> 01:55:54,314
Speaker 6: I mean, you also had the greatest player who's ever

2533
01:55:54,394 --> 01:55:55,434
Speaker 6: played playing quarterback.

2534
01:55:55,794 --> 01:55:56,674
Speaker 2: Had little to do with it.

2535
01:55:56,754 --> 01:55:59,794
Speaker 6: But you know, I have to be fair, You're right.

2536
01:55:59,954 --> 01:56:01,754
Speaker 6: I just they got him in the second round and

2537
01:56:01,834 --> 01:56:02,474
Speaker 6: that was good enough.

2538
01:56:02,914 --> 01:56:06,994
Speaker 2: But I don't have to be all the lights caliber

2539
01:56:07,114 --> 01:56:09,794
Speaker 2: would be good enough for the Patriots.

2540
01:56:09,354 --> 01:56:13,234
Speaker 6: And this particular team to win games. No, No, I

2541
01:56:13,314 --> 01:56:16,594
Speaker 6: think you need to be better than that. Okay, now

2542
01:56:17,074 --> 01:56:19,394
Speaker 6: I'm not saying I wouldn't take Matt Light. He's way

2543
01:56:19,474 --> 01:56:22,834
Speaker 6: better than Vederian Low. He would improve your offensive line.

2544
01:56:23,114 --> 01:56:24,714
Speaker 6: Maybe you could then move Veradarian Low.

2545
01:56:24,594 --> 01:56:26,634
Speaker 5: To right tackle, but not and then you, you know,

2546
01:56:26,834 --> 01:56:31,114
Speaker 5: play right tackle. I just don't go so true, you can't,

2547
01:56:32,434 --> 01:56:32,674
Speaker 5: you know what?

2548
01:56:32,994 --> 01:56:36,274
Speaker 6: Ask me again next year when I can re evaluate

2549
01:56:36,354 --> 01:56:38,754
Speaker 6: Drake May. Maybe he's one of those guys that you

2550
01:56:38,834 --> 01:56:41,194
Speaker 6: don't need to invest in the left tackles because he's

2551
01:56:41,234 --> 01:56:42,754
Speaker 6: gonna make it look better exactly.

2552
01:56:42,794 --> 01:56:43,394
Speaker 4: All right, there we go.

2553
01:56:43,674 --> 01:56:44,034
Speaker 6: How's that?

2554
01:56:44,314 --> 01:56:48,514
Speaker 2: Okay? Is that fair? Fair enough? Well, we'll put a

2555
01:56:48,594 --> 01:56:50,554
Speaker 2: pin on that one and we'll If.

2556
01:56:50,474 --> 01:56:52,634
Speaker 6: You're asking me right now, what I think the number

2557
01:56:52,674 --> 01:56:55,074
Speaker 6: one need on the team is, I would say left tackle. Okay,

2558
01:56:55,874 --> 01:57:00,794
Speaker 6: but it's like this much ahead of wide receiver, and

2559
01:57:00,874 --> 01:57:04,754
Speaker 6: they need two wide receivers. Yeah, minimum, probably three, but

2560
01:57:04,834 --> 01:57:06,354
Speaker 6: they need two elite wide receivers.

2561
01:57:06,554 --> 01:57:08,514
Speaker 5: Higgins followed Pop Douglas on Instagram.

2562
01:57:08,674 --> 01:57:11,194
Speaker 4: So, well that's it. Then we got our we got

2563
01:57:11,234 --> 01:57:11,674
Speaker 4: one box.

2564
01:57:11,754 --> 01:57:15,114
Speaker 6: Finally, all right, Matt would say, so you got the

2565
01:57:15,194 --> 01:57:16,074
Speaker 6: number two wide receiver.

2566
01:57:16,234 --> 01:57:16,474
Speaker 3: Checks.

2567
01:57:16,754 --> 01:57:18,154
Speaker 6: Now you need to find someone who can.

2568
01:57:18,074 --> 01:57:23,314
Speaker 2: Play Jeff in Canada, our last great quarterback played for

2569
01:57:23,434 --> 01:57:26,554
Speaker 2: twenty two seasons. He did all that TB twelve stuff.

2570
01:57:26,874 --> 01:57:29,274
Speaker 2: He rarely left the pocket or ran the football. He

2571
01:57:29,394 --> 01:57:33,074
Speaker 2: also has a competitive gene that is very rare amongst athletes.

2572
01:57:33,434 --> 01:57:35,474
Speaker 2: I say this to make a point. I think we

2573
01:57:35,594 --> 01:57:38,034
Speaker 2: need to accept that Drake may might have a much

2574
01:57:38,114 --> 01:57:42,114
Speaker 2: shorter career style of play. QB salaries, gen Z attitudes

2575
01:57:42,354 --> 01:57:45,314
Speaker 2: are likely to make his career different. I think if

2576
01:57:45,354 --> 01:57:48,674
Speaker 2: we get eight to ten years exciting and competitive out

2577
01:57:48,714 --> 01:57:51,394
Speaker 2: of May, we should be happy. That's the norm for

2578
01:57:51,474 --> 01:57:54,674
Speaker 2: a good, very good franchise quarterback. We all know Brady

2579
01:57:54,794 --> 01:57:58,354
Speaker 2: is a unicorn. What is the line between saying slide

2580
01:57:58,474 --> 01:58:01,154
Speaker 2: Drake or check it down Drake and just letting him

2581
01:58:01,154 --> 01:58:01,674
Speaker 2: do his thing?

2582
01:58:02,274 --> 01:58:04,834
Speaker 5: So experience eight to ten years?

2583
01:58:05,114 --> 01:58:05,274
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2584
01:58:05,434 --> 01:58:07,754
Speaker 5: Does it appear that Josh Allen is in any way,

2585
01:58:07,834 --> 01:58:10,474
Speaker 5: shape or form slowing down? No, he's in year seven.

2586
01:58:10,554 --> 01:58:11,634
Speaker 6: How about Lamar Jackson?

2587
01:58:12,074 --> 01:58:16,794
Speaker 5: So we're to the emailer's point. Josh Allen is already

2588
01:58:17,234 --> 01:58:20,354
Speaker 5: on the back nine of his NFL career and he

2589
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Speaker 5: might win MVP of the league.

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Speaker 6: So if he doesn't, Lamar Jackson's going and he's been

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01:58:24,634 --> 01:58:26,554
Speaker 6: around since what eighteen?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I don't necessarily agree with the fact that

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01:58:31,474 --> 01:58:34,074
Speaker 5: he's gonna I don't think he's gonna play twenty five years. No,

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Speaker 5: But I also don't think that he's only gonna play

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01:58:36,714 --> 01:58:37,634
Speaker 5: eight if he's good.

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01:58:37,794 --> 01:58:41,274
Speaker 6: Can can you reasonably is it reasonable to expect fifteen years.

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Speaker 5: If he's a franchise guy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:58:43,394 --> 01:58:45,994
Speaker 6: I mean if he pans out, is that asking too much?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I connected to some he said last week,

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01:58:48,234 --> 01:58:50,034
Speaker 4: Paul that you pointed out that you liked. I think

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01:58:50,074 --> 01:58:52,394
Speaker 4: we all liked was like everything I gotta I gotta

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01:58:52,474 --> 01:58:55,194
Speaker 4: win from the pocket, you know. And that's going back

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01:58:55,194 --> 01:58:56,794
Speaker 4: to the thing we did with Josh where you learn

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01:58:56,914 --> 01:59:00,714
Speaker 4: how much a quarterback with experience can do pre snap

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01:59:01,034 --> 01:59:03,794
Speaker 4: without putting themselves in danger. And like if Drake may,

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01:59:04,354 --> 01:59:06,114
Speaker 4: I think he showed some early signs of having a

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01:59:06,234 --> 01:59:08,674
Speaker 4: very good processor and understanding the game on the level

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01:59:08,714 --> 01:59:11,274
Speaker 4: that you need to play quarterback in the league. Like,

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Speaker 4: if you can get to that level, like I think

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01:59:13,234 --> 01:59:15,154
Speaker 4: he'll limit the hits he can take and you know,

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01:59:15,314 --> 01:59:17,874
Speaker 4: just pick his spots with the athleticism, the you know

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01:59:17,914 --> 01:59:19,674
Speaker 4: we talk about all the time, the third longs where

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01:59:19,954 --> 01:59:23,114
Speaker 4: everybody's covered and pick it up, slide to the little

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01:59:23,154 --> 01:59:23,634
Speaker 4: finger roll.

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01:59:23,754 --> 01:59:25,594
Speaker 5: And he really wanted to do the thing I do.

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01:59:25,834 --> 01:59:29,474
Speaker 4: It's so frustrating so much when I'm watching another team

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01:59:29,554 --> 01:59:31,514
Speaker 4: do that, like you know, Mahomes and it's like third

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01:59:31,514 --> 01:59:33,194
Speaker 4: and fifteen and you got them boxed up, and then

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01:59:34,274 --> 01:59:34,834
Speaker 4: he just kind of.

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01:59:35,234 --> 01:59:37,234
Speaker 5: Scrambles through and you know, slides and does nothing.

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01:59:37,554 --> 01:59:38,194
Speaker 4: Do you want to hate that?

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01:59:38,314 --> 01:59:39,194
Speaker 6: Things that bother him?

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01:59:39,754 --> 01:59:40,074
Speaker 2: Awesome?

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01:59:40,314 --> 01:59:41,834
Speaker 4: I say, quarterback.

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01:59:41,874 --> 01:59:44,034
Speaker 6: Your offensive line thing get bothered by twelve and four

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01:59:44,154 --> 01:59:47,354
Speaker 6: sees is true? Your offensive everything is valid. Like, you

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01:59:47,434 --> 01:59:49,874
Speaker 6: can make an argument, you're right, Like I'm not being

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01:59:50,194 --> 01:59:52,954
Speaker 6: like condescending. You're right, you can make an argument. You

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01:59:53,034 --> 01:59:55,674
Speaker 6: don't have to take the tackle right away. Yeah, you

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01:59:55,834 --> 01:59:57,514
Speaker 6: just need to get a better tackle than what you have,

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01:59:57,874 --> 01:59:59,834
Speaker 6: Like you don't have to have an elite left tackle.

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01:59:59,914 --> 02:00:02,514
Speaker 6: You're right, you're right. I just want to be fair

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02:00:02,594 --> 02:00:05,394
Speaker 6: with like, okay, because my offensive line thing is I

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Speaker 6: just feel like you don't need to have the Lions.

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Speaker 6: You just can't have what the Patriots have. You can't

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02:00:10,674 --> 02:00:13,074
Speaker 6: have what Chicago try to trot out there with five

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02:00:13,194 --> 02:00:15,794
Speaker 6: backups the other day, they literally had all backups on

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02:00:15,834 --> 02:00:17,994
Speaker 6: the field and I'm not sure if you noticed, but

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Speaker 6: they got sacked nine times. Like, you can't have that.

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Speaker 6: You can't run an offense with that.

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Speaker 2: Knowing, all right, and we'll be running into tomorrow at noon.

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Speaker 2: That's it for today's show. I don't think there's anything

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Speaker 2: coming up today, so no, we're clear. So thanks for listening,

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