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Speaker 2: Welcome to the.
Speaker 3: Command Center Podcast.
Speaker 4: I'm Logan Paulson here with the distinguished Settleman, Fred Smoot
Speaker 4: and Santana Moss. Guy, it's so good to be back
Speaker 4: talking about some football. There's a little bit of drama
Speaker 4: in Commander's land today. Mike Clay from ESPN put out
Speaker 4: his receiver rankings yesterday and Washington was eleven. Drum row,
Speaker 4: How do you guys feel about that?
Speaker 2: I'm sick to my stomach.
Speaker 3: Okay, tell me about a better room than it.
Speaker 5: It's a better room. One like I judge a room
Speaker 5: by how many threats do you have? Okay, well we
Speaker 5: have legitly like people forgetting that Diami Brown is the
Speaker 5: fourth receiver on this team like this says a lot.
Speaker 5: I think Curtis Samny is a guy to tell the truth.
Speaker 5: Hasn't riched his ceiling yet. So at the end of
Speaker 5: the day, especially with us yeah yeah, and Johann Dotson,
Speaker 5: it's one of them guys could easily be a number
Speaker 5: one on the team.
Speaker 2: All right, so we got a one A in a
Speaker 2: one B.
Speaker 5: I think the one thing that these guys suffer from
Speaker 5: is why I didn't play wide receive in the first
Speaker 5: dayn place. You have to depend on the quarterback. Without
Speaker 5: the quarterback, they will not rank you high.
Speaker 6: And trust me, I was one of those guys. When
Speaker 6: I saw it, I was sitting there thinking hard. I'm like,
Speaker 6: we easily a top five corps, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: those group of guys. Any team in this leader right
Speaker 6: now would take all three of our guys and they
Speaker 6: can be starters on someone else's team. But I understand
Speaker 6: and just what you know Fred alluded to is it's
Speaker 6: all about the quarterback. And that's one of the reasons
Speaker 6: why as a player, as a receiver, folks us always
Speaker 6: asking me before the season, one, are your goals?
Speaker 2: My goals is to be ready because.
Speaker 6: I can't go out here and say I want to
Speaker 6: go for a thousand yards unless the quarterback allowed me
Speaker 6: to be that kind of player, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: So I never tried to sell myself with these goals
Speaker 6: and these highestpirations, these dreams of being the best receiving
Speaker 6: the league, being a guy that go out there one
Speaker 6: thousand hours every year. What I've all always done, knowing
Speaker 6: that the court, knowing that my play dictated, you know,
Speaker 6: solely from the quarterback position, is just made sure that
Speaker 6: I was ready for whatever it may come my way.
Speaker 6: And also that means not getting the ball a lot
Speaker 6: that Terry had to go through up and down throughout
Speaker 6: these years.
Speaker 2: So I think we have a better court than they've
Speaker 2: giving us. But it solely, you know, lies on our
Speaker 2: quarterback hands.
Speaker 4: So let me just ask you this. So this is
Speaker 4: the list, Cincinnati, Seattle, Miami, Philly, Dallas, Arizona, the Chargers, Tampa, Bay, Vegas, Minnesota, Washington.
Speaker 4: Of those teams, if we have a better receiver group
Speaker 4: than eleven, who you taking out and where you slatting
Speaker 4: us in that group?
Speaker 5: That Minnesota has to go down?
Speaker 3: Okay, time out.
Speaker 5: They got justin Jefferson, they got a top three wide
Speaker 5: receiving this.
Speaker 4: Way it ends in and then Jordan Addison is a
Speaker 4: first round We don't know who he is.
Speaker 2: Hold up, my.
Speaker 4: Guys, So last couple of years, these first round RD
Speaker 4: receivers are coming in just straight bald, right, And I
Speaker 4: think Tanna can speak to this probably better than most.
Speaker 4: They are a more polished product coming out of college
Speaker 4: because that's red right. So is there a sir, is
Speaker 4: there a world where he's grading in the seventies by
Speaker 4: PFF and then that would put him ahead of with.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying is he's not better than Johanna Dodson.
Speaker 5: We know that right now, We know that as we speak,
Speaker 5: because I'm gonna always put your number one against your
Speaker 5: number one like Terry mclowan, Jordan Jefferson. They got us
Speaker 5: right there, and by inch, our number two it's better
Speaker 5: than their number two, and that number three surpasses their
Speaker 5: number three.
Speaker 6: Osborne, I bet on our number one is our number
Speaker 6: two is only number two because our number.
Speaker 2: One has done so much? Yes, but our.
Speaker 6: Number one two can easily be a number one this
Speaker 6: team alone.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this based on system.
Speaker 4: Right, scheme system is that that scheming Minnesota is very
Speaker 4: receiver friendly. It's the same system that Kyle RAN's for
Speaker 4: the one and two receivers. They got a lot of touches. Right,
Speaker 4: do you think Addison will be better more productive than
Speaker 4: hn Dodson? I know, okay, I'm not talking to you.
Speaker 2: I know you're not.
Speaker 6: Who do you think I haven't seen what we're gonna
Speaker 6: do with eb yet, so it's hard for me. It's
Speaker 6: hard for me to gauge that now and say, well,
Speaker 6: this office is gonna allow Dawson get off, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean. I do believe with that offense that
Speaker 6: he's over there. I'm gonna give him ANR right now.
Speaker 6: So I'll get bad.
Speaker 2: It's in the NAR right now because I don't know
Speaker 2: what we're gonna do offense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think that offense is pretty sure. But okay,
Speaker 4: so I think it's close. I think Minnesota's close. You
Speaker 4: can bump down. There are the other teams on this
Speaker 4: I got two Teamslet's see if you guys get to
Speaker 4: the same ones that I think.
Speaker 5: Arizona shouldn't should not be ahead of this team. I
Speaker 5: love the receivers they have in Arizona, but when I
Speaker 5: put them up to our guys, I think our guys
Speaker 5: our step better in Dallas. Doesn't see thee Lamb. He's
Speaker 5: a number one, but he's a number one.
Speaker 2: That's a slot receiver.
Speaker 5: He's also a guy that doesn't create a lot of separation,
Speaker 5: like when he catches balls. By all his balls are contested, right,
Speaker 5: So at the end of the day, you're gonna add
Speaker 5: Brandon Cook, who I've like. Brandon Cook has managed to
Speaker 5: get a thousand yards no matter who his quarterback is.
Speaker 2: But Brandon Cook.
Speaker 6: He's not He's not gonna run intermediate short routes. He's
Speaker 6: going to burn you. He's going to stretch the field,
Speaker 6: and he's a tough suck cin of a gun. He's
Speaker 6: going to catch the ball and no matter who's out, definitely,
Speaker 6: you know, put put some on them. So that's what
Speaker 6: I give Brandon Cooks. But when you look at this list, uh,
Speaker 6: to me, if you had to take our receiver corps
Speaker 6: and put them in any one of those those group
Speaker 6: of teams, I think they would kill They will ball out.
Speaker 6: So when I look at the list, the only team,
Speaker 6: the only team, I probably would you know, question and
Speaker 6: saying that I as Arizona. I think Arizona don't have
Speaker 6: enough guys collectively that I would.
Speaker 2: Say that, you know, they should be in front of us.
Speaker 4: You know, I think the one thing there is they
Speaker 4: got DeAndre Hopkins, and DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 3: Had a tough year last year.
Speaker 2: Suspect you don't I played with him, and besides him,
Speaker 2: I don't see nobody.
Speaker 4: I was he as a team I mean he's as
Speaker 4: a teammate. I think you see's a good guy as
Speaker 4: a teammate. Not the hardest worker in the world, but
Speaker 4: just a good, good, competitive son of a gun and
Speaker 4: one of the best.
Speaker 3: His superpowers catch the football, like the.
Speaker 4: Way he catches the football hands and they're huge hands,
Speaker 4: and he's Contell said he's tough, but not very productive.
Speaker 4: Last year, Marquis Brown, the guy from Baltimore.
Speaker 2: He's up and down, up and down. Right.
Speaker 4: And then the guy they drafted Rondell Moore a couple
Speaker 4: of years ago, the four to two guy. They don't
Speaker 4: know how to use him yet, So I would I
Speaker 4: would say for sure above Arizona right. And I'm glad
Speaker 4: you mentioned Dallas, right because the Brandon Cooks. The question
Speaker 4: I have for you is, does Brandon Cooks elevate CD
Speaker 4: LAMB because of the space He's an I don't.
Speaker 2: Think so like.
Speaker 5: I don't think Brandon like put like this is a coordinator.
Speaker 5: I'm not going into a game worrying about Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 5: I'm just telling you that, like if I go in
Speaker 5: and I gotta check, I gotta in. My job is
Speaker 5: to stop the Cowboys. I'm gonna stop Ceedee Lamb first.
Speaker 5: You don't have a tight end, all right, So therefore
Speaker 5: Ceedee Lamb first.
Speaker 4: And I think people get a forget about Gallup, what
Speaker 4: about Michael gal comes up?
Speaker 6: So Gallup and Cooks to me, are the Gallup, Gallup
Speaker 6: and Cooks both.
Speaker 2: Speed is their main threat. But I will say this
Speaker 2: about Cooks.
Speaker 6: He's a he's a veteran, so he knows how to
Speaker 6: go out there and be a pro. You know, how
Speaker 6: to put itself in the right position, right spot to
Speaker 6: catch those make those plays galloped. I think he's still
Speaker 6: a little raw. He's still a raw with have come.
Speaker 6: I watched his routes. I watch how he you know,
Speaker 6: and then last year, you know, he came off of injury.
Speaker 6: So I can't really you know, put a lot on that,
Speaker 6: you know, knowing that he was injured. But you know,
Speaker 6: I just want to go back to what Fred said
Speaker 6: about not worrying about cook. I won't say I won't know.
Speaker 6: You have to worry about him because can stretch the
Speaker 6: feel That's what I'm saying. He's going to open up
Speaker 6: things for those guys because he can stretch the field.
Speaker 2: If you sit there and say forget Cook. He's going
Speaker 2: he's going for six, He's forget him. But my you
Speaker 2: don't have to game up around him. You don't have
Speaker 2: to put you Cook.
Speaker 4: So to me, what I see with Cooks is a
Speaker 4: guy that makes you defend the field horizontally in a
Speaker 4: way that you know when you watch Kansas City when
Speaker 4: tyber Hill was there, you have made the field more open.
Speaker 3: And then you said Ceedee Lamb's a slot receiver.
Speaker 4: You get a ninety PFF grade out of CD Lamb
Speaker 4: this year because there's more space because of Cooks.
Speaker 5: I don't I think it's a big scheme of things.
Speaker 5: I just don't think like he's not gonna run us
Speaker 5: oute of man to man, like I only judge why
Speaker 5: I receive. Who runs us, who makes us, who makes
Speaker 5: my coordinator change what we're doing, Like Brendan Cook is
Speaker 5: not gonna make us Like I'm still gonna check.
Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb the same exact way man under.
Speaker 5: I watched everybody play the Cowboys last year because that
Speaker 5: couldn't run because of him coming out of their injury.
Speaker 2: Everybody played them two men under.
Speaker 5: So Cook never got separation. Well now that I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm not cook I mean, ceedee lamb.
Speaker 2: So now and Cook to that? Does that run me
Speaker 2: out of two men?
Speaker 3: I mean he's a four to three guy.
Speaker 2: He's still running guy. He is. But people I just said,
Speaker 2: don't get court slipping with him. That's what I say.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm one of those guys.
Speaker 6: Don't think this because he's now, he's up in those
Speaker 6: years and he might not be the guy he was
Speaker 6: a couple of years ago. I still I still think
Speaker 6: he can get behind the defense, and that's one of
Speaker 6: the reason why daughters went out there.
Speaker 4: So I would say that those are the three teams.
Speaker 4: I would say Washington is probably above because I think
Speaker 4: when you look at the Chargers, when you look at
Speaker 4: Tempa Bay, when you look at Vegas, Philly, Miami, Seattle, Cincinnati,
Speaker 4: I think those groups are pretty dynamic groups.
Speaker 2: A lot of those groups who have a lot of
Speaker 2: them a lot.
Speaker 5: Because you're a married man in Brandon Cooks has divorced.
Speaker 5: More quarterback, I'm shocking at stability.
Speaker 2: Ain't your things?
Speaker 4: Well? The fact that he can move scheme diagnostic, I
Speaker 4: think is important with a quarterback like Dak Prescott. But again,
Speaker 4: I think so those three teams, you guys agree, Xota, Arizona,
Speaker 4: Dallas our teams, so.
Speaker 2: At least seven, at least at least seven eight. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we should be around.
Speaker 4: There because I don't think I think the Chargers again,
Speaker 4: they got Mike Williams, keenan All and those guys are awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay Mike Evans. I don't think you jumped Chris
Speaker 4: Godwin either, He's outstanding. Vegas had a sneaky addition this offseason,
Speaker 4: Tampa with Jacoby Myers, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, number one sneaky.
Speaker 4: So again, like I'm not sure they jumped. Maybe they're
Speaker 4: in that group. I don't know if they jumped that.
Speaker 2: We still got to be proved.
Speaker 6: I mean, like I said, for a lot of those
Speaker 6: names stick out, and then you look at it.
Speaker 2: You got quarterbacks and receivers.
Speaker 3: That's the great point.
Speaker 6: So that's when I look at that page and like
Speaker 6: when you're talking about a core and you talk about
Speaker 6: their quarterback, that made that court just that much, you know,
Speaker 6: more more potent. So unless we really go out there
Speaker 6: and play with our guys and see what we got,
Speaker 6: we can't really talk of being you know, being above.
Speaker 3: Some of the defense. A great point, right, like if
Speaker 3: you don't have the quarterback, Like it's hard to know.
Speaker 5: Like I always tell why, I I'm going to burn you. No,
Speaker 5: you're not not, not with Nathan Peterman.
Speaker 2: Throw you too. You don't got a chance with me.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: So you know, Mikelay's gonna come out with some new list.
Speaker 4: He hasn't come out with these yet, but I'll ask
Speaker 4: you guys. Right, So obviously we got a pretty good
Speaker 4: defensive line room here. Where would Jane, where would you
Speaker 4: rank that group? Where would you rank that group? So
Speaker 4: I got so I got some teams here right that
Speaker 4: I think would compete with Washington in terms of you know,
Speaker 4: the Eagles, the Eagles, San Francisco, the Jets, and Dallas
Speaker 4: were the names that.
Speaker 5: I came up with them the only ones, Like, there's
Speaker 5: no other rooms that can compete with that, Like.
Speaker 2: Dallas, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: It is high because they have two edge guys.
Speaker 5: They got two edge guys, but the interior it's missing
Speaker 5: and that's why they drafted Mazi. Like but the Philadelphia
Speaker 5: Eagles out of the room, that intrigues me because they
Speaker 5: they also have two babies inside Jordan Davis and they
Speaker 5: drafted uh Carded this year. Our guys are proving I
Speaker 5: got it proven our first round picks, uh, and what
Speaker 5: really does it for me?
Speaker 2: With our room? We ain't seen the best of our
Speaker 2: edges haven't seen it. We haven't seen the best.
Speaker 6: And that's why I would say we at least top three.
Speaker 6: And that's the reason why I only I won't I
Speaker 6: won't go as far as one because we haven't seen
Speaker 6: us be as potent collected we want to be. I mean,
Speaker 6: we show we saw flashes year and year. You get
Speaker 6: a player here, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean.
Speaker 6: Sweat has been consistent for the most part. He still
Speaker 6: haven't got up there and double showed us that year. Yeah,
Speaker 6: but I think still with Sweat haven't shown us his best.
Speaker 6: And having Young just really getting back to health we were,
Speaker 6: we won't really know what we have until all those
Speaker 6: guys playing together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think Young's health is a big deal.
Speaker 4: It's the biggest thing, right because definitively, if he comes
Speaker 4: out and is that guy that he was a couple
Speaker 4: of years ago.
Speaker 2: We need a disruptor.
Speaker 6: We need a guy that what those two guys doing
Speaker 6: the inside on the edge, they just but I'm just
Speaker 6: saying far as just our our Allen and Payne.
Speaker 2: You know you you rarely see that.
Speaker 6: And when you saw that with Aaron Donald, like, man,
Speaker 6: this guy just tearing up the inside of everybody's offensive
Speaker 6: line and it got to the point to where you
Speaker 6: can put anybody outside. But we have two of the
Speaker 6: best outside that what I'm saying, we can just see
Speaker 6: all four of those guys play together for one year.
Speaker 2: The top sell.
Speaker 5: Inside built like this was Tampa Bay with one Sap
Speaker 5: and book, all right, and it allowed the edge Russians
Speaker 5: to never get double team right.
Speaker 2: So now think about this.
Speaker 5: You can't double team inside, you can't double team outside,
Speaker 5: so you you're gonna be forced to leave people in
Speaker 5: the chip. Running back to the chip changes changes, they
Speaker 5: can change how you run. Plays like you cannot leave
Speaker 5: and let everybody go out because if we need to
Speaker 5: protect first, And that's why I think this line.
Speaker 2: Think about this.
Speaker 5: If I told you forty sacks from your start, and
Speaker 5: for y'all'll be like this normal, right, you get forty
Speaker 5: sacks from this guy, but forty sex is a lot
Speaker 5: of days.
Speaker 2: Like that's ten a piece for these guys I think
Speaker 2: they can do.
Speaker 6: But what I would say is, with all that being said,
Speaker 6: you can have the best guys up front, but when
Speaker 6: your secondary, we we're gonna We're gonna still.
Speaker 2: Get the ball off.
Speaker 6: We're gonna get So that's why it's so vital for
Speaker 6: us to make sure second the go get secondary is
Speaker 6: now you got to play into our will power, and
Speaker 6: our will power is getting getting you up front. How
Speaker 6: many times last year you saw Sweat almost getting there,
Speaker 6: he got that in the ball just got off and
Speaker 6: they made a play down field. But now if you
Speaker 6: got all those guys up front, and you got your
Speaker 6: guys in the secondary, those guys in the back end
Speaker 6: locking their guys up that quarterback and hold on that
Speaker 6: ball for that one more second eye for now us
Speaker 6: to get that side.
Speaker 2: On this defense right now.
Speaker 5: I ain't backpelling now, son, I'm sitting flat foody, and
Speaker 5: you're gonna have to run past as I had.
Speaker 3: A question for you. So obviously I think Payne and
Speaker 3: Allen are top eight? Do you interior? Where did the
Speaker 3: edge guys rank? You know, are they?
Speaker 4: I know Monte is pretty close to being top ten.
Speaker 4: I would say where's Chase sat and that because we
Speaker 4: just talked about that's the thing that's going to take
Speaker 4: him over the hump, right So what do you need
Speaker 4: to see from them to get I.
Speaker 5: Think I think Chase is the one that is so
Speaker 5: much damn upside, Like we ain't seeing the best of Chase,
Speaker 5: Like even we haven't seen the best Wine. Back to
Speaker 5: his rookie year, the last five games of the season,
Speaker 5: he had combined five sacks, two forces, fumbles, touchdown. This
Speaker 5: guy makes things happen. He makes things happen. So at
Speaker 5: the end of the day, was he worth the second pick?
Speaker 3: Hell?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's that type of dude. He's Bruce Smith is
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 5: Now the focus is is he focused on being that?
Speaker 2: What do the hell Chase wants to be?
Speaker 5: And that's the key and he will never have it
Speaker 5: better than he has here, meaning you'll never get more
Speaker 5: one on one then you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Get with this the line. So this is the time
Speaker 2: to show who he is.
Speaker 5: So I think Chase is the one we're waiting on
Speaker 5: to see who he is.
Speaker 2: Is he the alpha of these affas?
Speaker 6: I think he's easily man. And I'm just saying this
Speaker 6: without him having that injury. And I think the injury
Speaker 6: was one of those wake up calls, you know, to me,
Speaker 6: like that second that second year was going so bad.
Speaker 6: I don't think he even realized how bad it was going,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So the injury on top
Speaker 6: of it having a bad year, now you got to
Speaker 6: really wake up, Like now I was playing bad, and
Speaker 6: now I'm hurt, and I got to overcome playing bad
Speaker 6: being being more sound, technique sound, and then now I
Speaker 6: got to get back to that health that had me
Speaker 6: playing freely. So now you're gonna get a different kind
Speaker 6: of player. You're gonna get a player that said, okay,
Speaker 6: I even saw last year and flashes. You got a
Speaker 6: player there now like he's you can tell he's studying
Speaker 6: what I need to do, not so much of just
Speaker 6: taking going out there and athletically dominating. You know, I
Speaker 6: was one of those receivers. I talk about this openly
Speaker 6: all the time. I didn't have to look at my opponent.
Speaker 6: I was gonna beat you every time. I was gonna
Speaker 6: beat you until I got that third knee injury, I
Speaker 6: mean knee surgery. I said, oh boy, let me go
Speaker 6: and watch this dude here and see what what age
Speaker 6: can I take? You know what I mean. But what
Speaker 6: that did also was it helped me watch the defense
Speaker 6: as a whole.
Speaker 2: I care less about cover two, Cover one.
Speaker 6: I used to read that half of my field, whatever
Speaker 6: side of the field I was on, I read that half.
Speaker 6: I said, Okay, I got cloud, or I got one,
Speaker 6: or I got three. I got something where either if one
Speaker 6: is on, I'm gonna beat my guy to beat my guy.
Speaker 6: So now you get a guy and Chase that he
Speaker 6: has to go through these measures to be that person
Speaker 6: that he was year one and it's gonna make him
Speaker 6: that much better and being the Chase that he's now.
Speaker 2: He's home because they didn't they didn't pick up his year.
Speaker 2: He wanted.
Speaker 6: He out to prove something, just like when he came in.
Speaker 6: He's got to prove some. You finna get it. You're
Speaker 6: finna get that predator. You're finna get that guy that's
Speaker 6: gonna go out there that every week, your your that
Speaker 6: opponent gonna be like, I understand these other guys are great,
Speaker 6: but man, I don't want to see him, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean.
Speaker 2: And he's gonna he's gonna pick up everybody else game.
Speaker 6: You're gonna see sweat get more sex this year just
Speaker 6: because of what Chase is going to do this year.
Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna run the sweatside.
Speaker 3: So I'll say this, so I think we could agreed
Speaker 3: top five group.
Speaker 4: Top five comes out potentially be number one. Let's talk
Speaker 4: about running backs real quick. We got Brian Robinson, Antonio Gibson.
Speaker 4: Where do they rank in terms of running backs? I
Speaker 4: got some names for you here. Just have other good
Speaker 4: running back groups, Green Bay Packers, Right, They've got aj
Speaker 4: Dillon and Jones Johns out in San Francisco, Miami, They've
Speaker 4: got a track team down there in the backfield? Cleveland,
Speaker 4: Seattle and Philly? Are are they other ones that kind
Speaker 4: of stuck out to meet Swift with two headed monsters
Speaker 4: back there?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 4: Where where does Washington's backfield rank? And you know, like
Speaker 4: what what can we expect from a healthy Brian?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: Top fifteen of the variety. I love the differences in
Speaker 5: the running backs. Brian Robinson is different from Gibby. I
Speaker 5: think Gibby is Finn Show, and I mean Gibby and
Speaker 5: Antonio Gibson is about to show people who he really is.
Speaker 5: In Eric b Enemy's offense, He's an X Y receiver
Speaker 5: that's playing running back, and I think people forget that
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, he can do anything.
Speaker 5: He's a three down back, and I think he is
Speaker 5: the diamond in.
Speaker 2: The rough out of this group.
Speaker 5: Like I love Rodriguez cause he just put my head
Speaker 5: down and it's me and you.
Speaker 2: It's me and you and we're fin the swap paint.
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: I think the most.
Speaker 3: The difference maker has to be in the past game,
Speaker 3: I think, and I.
Speaker 5: Think that's why Gibson comes to Gibbson, he becomes something
Speaker 5: different than most of the He's different than everybody on
Speaker 5: our page right now.
Speaker 6: I think I think having having Antonio Gibson and being
Speaker 6: a part of this aeric being in me offense really
Speaker 6: gives us another dynamic on the offensive side. We talk
Speaker 6: about those receivers, We talk about that tighten, you know,
Speaker 6: tight end group we have, especially if Logan Thomas come
Speaker 6: back to for for health, he can be a dominant
Speaker 6: tight end again and we talk about it. We talk
Speaker 6: about our running back field and these guys just being
Speaker 6: great runners, but a g with the ball in his hand.
Speaker 2: Last year he showed signs of that.
Speaker 6: And man, when we talked to coach a couple of
Speaker 6: weeks ago and we was asking, he was like, we
Speaker 6: was all expecting that that that quick twitch, pick up
Speaker 6: running back, but they didn't do so because they knew
Speaker 6: what they had in a g And he can be that.
Speaker 2: He can be that.
Speaker 6: Last year, he can be that we want him to
Speaker 6: be a bruiser, and he's not a bruiser.
Speaker 2: He mas you time and time again.
Speaker 6: He's been showing us time and time again that I'm
Speaker 6: not going to run a guy over unless you make
Speaker 6: me mad, because he has the bite type. But he's
Speaker 6: a guy that can do whatever he wants to do
Speaker 6: in his offense. Now, you know what I mean. He
Speaker 6: can be a guy that they say we're gonna motion
Speaker 6: him outside. He's gonna kill any linebacker, any any rover,
Speaker 6: any nickel guy you put on him, because he's that
Speaker 6: type of guy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I think it's interesting that both offensive position groups we
Speaker 4: talked about receivers and running backs. It all goes back
Speaker 4: to you be really right and what he's gonna do
Speaker 4: with these guys, how you's going to magnify skill sets.
Speaker 3: I think that's really interesting.
Speaker 4: So the last group we're going to talk about it,
Speaker 4: I think this is interesting because you've already kind of
Speaker 4: alluded to them. Is the defensive back group. Where do
Speaker 4: they rank nationally in your opinion?
Speaker 3: Right? And what can we expect from this year?
Speaker 2: Miami got a high group, especially with them trading for
Speaker 2: Jalen coordon Natals.
Speaker 5: Like if you want to look for defensive backfields, look
Speaker 5: for defensive line.
Speaker 2: Like I'm sorry, like we are have I not been
Speaker 2: saying that we are married?
Speaker 6: Like I said, you can put my son back there,
Speaker 6: both of them, my thirteen year old and my twenty
Speaker 6: three year old son, and.
Speaker 2: We're not a liquid experience. If you put them behind
Speaker 2: chasing all them boys, it's a different you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Different.
Speaker 5: So with Saint Jews, I mean with Jewics, you got this.
Speaker 5: He's a nolafier. He's not a in acceptor.
Speaker 2: He'll stay between the quarterback and the football and the
Speaker 2: wide receiver.
Speaker 3: You think you can learn that though, I mean, now,
Speaker 3: you don't.
Speaker 2: Learn to catch the ball when you make it to
Speaker 2: the league either. You came with it? Are you not
Speaker 2: like it? Well? Because they got to shriff. He had
Speaker 2: to shaff either.
Speaker 5: He will make a player occasionally, but he's not looking
Speaker 5: to do that.
Speaker 2: He's not looking to do it.
Speaker 5: Like this is how you cornerbacks you divide us X
Speaker 5: y receivers in x running backs no cornerback.
Speaker 4: But we know we actually I know, but no way,
Speaker 4: Benjamin Vegam said, you just didn't play running back.
Speaker 3: It's like sixty three like no, no, he.
Speaker 2: Is considered of the running back class.
Speaker 5: Of the cornerbacks, he's considered a running back right, well, me,
Speaker 5: skinny guys, guys that look like wide receivers play like
Speaker 5: wide receivers. We are the wide receiver group. He may
Speaker 5: you were falls falls in that group like Funller falls
Speaker 5: in that group. So these this is how you divide
Speaker 5: the cornerback position. So I think we got a good
Speaker 5: group because the front is so damn good like so
Speaker 5: it don't matter.
Speaker 2: Like I told you, if I was playing.
Speaker 5: Right now, I would never backpn like I told I
Speaker 5: would sit there in the corner.
Speaker 2: Was going to have to rep ass me.
Speaker 5: But I will bet that my guy's gonna make it
Speaker 5: to the quarterback before I have.
Speaker 6: That's why I bothered me a lot watching these guys
Speaker 6: from the past few years, because I didn't understand why
Speaker 6: we didn't put a lot of more bump and run,
Speaker 6: you know from the you know, play a lot of
Speaker 6: bumper ruff from the outside, like you don't even have
Speaker 6: to really go out there and be physical, you know,
Speaker 6: just get in their way if you get in my
Speaker 6: weight like that was. You know when we played teams,
Speaker 6: and I say this all the time, teams got in
Speaker 6: my way more than they stopped me. They just put
Speaker 6: a guy in front of me and say we're gonna
Speaker 6: slow them down from getting off the line.
Speaker 2: And then now it's gonna be hard for the quarterback.
Speaker 6: The quarterback coming off me now because he knows I
Speaker 6: don't because the D line is you know, up my behind.
Speaker 2: So you know, we need to do more of that now.
Speaker 6: Having more guys back the now, having the depth, now,
Speaker 6: having you know, the talent, you know, we we have
Speaker 6: everything now when it comes to those guys up front
Speaker 6: and those guys in the back end, especially even that safety.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. We have the guys.
Speaker 6: So I want to see us do that more because
Speaker 6: I've even told Juice, I'm like, Bro, you was on
Speaker 6: AJ Green and you backed off and gave him the
Speaker 6: easiest touchdown I've ever seen, and man and playing football
Speaker 6: football went on, Bro, you was just a staying in
Speaker 6: front of him that would have been hard and cut
Speaker 6: route he couldn't have rent it, but you backed off
Speaker 6: and gave it to him and gave him respect.
Speaker 4: So I want to ask you this, so like in
Speaker 4: this example of Tennis talking about like you've got to
Speaker 4: defend multiple route concepts, right, So you know, like one
Speaker 4: of the things that I always go back to is
Speaker 4: like people say, oh, we got a pressman, pressman, press man,
Speaker 4: But I always I've always heard they're playing awfull as
Speaker 4: you to intercept the football better, right because you can
Speaker 4: see the quarterback right, So like where is the mix there?
Speaker 4: And I know you don't want to be doing the
Speaker 4: same thing all the time, right, But this is what.
Speaker 5: I love from press man. PRIs Man simplifies the route tree.
Speaker 5: The route tree becomes defined.
Speaker 2: Is PRIs man, you finished slant?
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 2: Finn?
Speaker 5: Fade me up once I go into PRIs Man, because
Speaker 5: the route tree go, it's shrinks.
Speaker 3: You have conversions.
Speaker 2: You have to convert to convert your routes.
Speaker 5: And so now like when I go to play off,
Speaker 5: now I got to check the whole route tree. Like
Speaker 5: now the only weapon I have is a cornerback is
Speaker 5: down in distance.
Speaker 6: That's gonna tell me just to give fred Just to
Speaker 6: clarify what Fred's saying. If I have a post corner
Speaker 6: on the outside, and if Fred off me, I'm running
Speaker 6: that post corner. Traditionally, I'm gonna I'm taking him up
Speaker 6: the field at team, I'm gonna cut. I'm cutting to
Speaker 6: the post. Then I'm out to the corner. But if
Speaker 6: he pressed me, now I changed my whole route. And
Speaker 6: depending on what they planning the back end, it could
Speaker 6: be I can change that route all the way. So
Speaker 6: if now I still have man coverage, if he pressing me,
Speaker 6: I gotta release inside and not even give him that
Speaker 6: they cut press Now, I got to just get to
Speaker 6: my corner. But now if they gotta, they gotta safety
Speaker 6: over the top. I can't go high because I say
Speaker 6: that's gonna get the ball. I gotta come flat. So
Speaker 6: you have to adjust off of the coverage and depending
Speaker 6: on one of the things I loved about seeing some
Speaker 6: of the best dbats play, they always knew where they
Speaker 6: have their help and where they don't. DeAngelo Hall was
Speaker 6: so good at knowing when he had help. That dude
Speaker 6: was so smart. That's why he jumped everything. Man, he
Speaker 6: knew he had to safety over top of him. Do
Speaker 6: not play with thee Hall he jumping it. He's going
Speaker 6: he's gonna be talking to your mom in the stands.
Speaker 6: He gonna hold the ball up and show you your boy.
Speaker 6: He was domb for throwing the ball at me. So
Speaker 6: that's what I want to see us do more. Nowhere
Speaker 6: your help is at And if you know you got
Speaker 6: a guy off the top, come on, I'm pressing you
Speaker 6: know why, because I don't have to worry about you
Speaker 6: beating me. Now, if I don't have that help, I
Speaker 6: would back off a little bit and play more coverage
Speaker 6: out of it.
Speaker 4: How much flexibility do you have to make that decision
Speaker 4: or is it defensive? Is it a defensive call?
Speaker 2: Well? Well, I was one of the people. I used
Speaker 2: to press and cover three.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting cover three?
Speaker 2: My coaches I always said, like I had two ways
Speaker 2: of cover three.
Speaker 4: Cover three for those listening is you're dividing the back
Speaker 4: end of the field in the third space.
Speaker 2: And I have to play three D.
Speaker 5: But most people would if I had to play off
Speaker 5: and code three, I would play off and code three.
Speaker 2: Walking down, I would literally I'm headed, I can see
Speaker 2: you doing it.
Speaker 5: I want to change what the quarterback thinks I'm doing.
Speaker 2: And so at the end of the day.
Speaker 5: How you playing Jedi mind tricks with the wide receiver
Speaker 5: in the corner and a quarterback. And I think that's
Speaker 5: what the older corners learn.
Speaker 2: As you get into the NFL. The game inside, the
Speaker 2: game needs to be played.
Speaker 6: I used to always get to the line of scrimmage
Speaker 6: and I used to I look at the safety first.
Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, let me see if I see that
Speaker 6: that shell, that shell, that's that cover two shell, and
Speaker 6: then that lets me know, okay, okay, I can do
Speaker 6: my regular route. You know, But when then if you
Speaker 6: got a dB and my homeboy and he played defensive back,
Speaker 6: I play defensive back growing up, and he's always I
Speaker 6: used to ask him questions in high school, like what
Speaker 6: are you trying to do? He said, I'm trying to
Speaker 6: disguise my look every time. If I know I got press,
Speaker 6: I'm coming from deep. If I know I got it off,
Speaker 6: I'm coming from press. So I want you at the
Speaker 6: line of scrimmers to think have to make that decision
Speaker 6: at the snap of the ball instead of than having
Speaker 6: your mind made up. So if I have to make
Speaker 6: you make that decision that snap of the ball, now
Speaker 6: you're in between. You can't just tear off on me.
Speaker 6: You see what I'm saying. So I used to look
Speaker 6: for that to see who's gonna make me think, who's
Speaker 6: gonna make me? I'm always looking at the safety, So
Speaker 6: the safety is always gonna tell me if he's on
Speaker 6: that hash that far hands over there by me?
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean that close hash. Okay, we got some
Speaker 2: kind of shell, some kind of show, you know, one
Speaker 2: of the safeties.
Speaker 3: You guys were telling you guys something I need you
Speaker 3: to tell me something.
Speaker 2: You need to dress back.
Speaker 4: Julie has been on me about what I'm wearing on
Speaker 4: the show all yeh. So you guys have any fashion
Speaker 4: advice for me?
Speaker 2: Yes? What should like?
Speaker 3: What should be thinking about?
Speaker 2: You got to stop going to burlingin.
Speaker 5: You gotta stop going to these places.
Speaker 2: You got to stop sending your wife to get you
Speaker 2: these shirts.
Speaker 3: Go shopping all the time. Man, I have been shopping
Speaker 3: probably in ten years.
Speaker 2: That's the problem.
Speaker 5: That's the serious problem with you.
Speaker 2: You don't care.
Speaker 5: We all run into guys like that old I get
Speaker 5: right now as the oldest man.
Speaker 2: I don't care, Like, what's the different?
Speaker 3: You got like a little button up T shirt on
Speaker 3: this nice.
Speaker 2: Neat and you come in here looking. You got the
Speaker 2: shirt that Rudy wold. This is nice.
Speaker 5: It's not.
Speaker 6: It's not a guy like yourself who don't really care
Speaker 6: about all that stuff. You can still get something simple.
Speaker 6: Like when I was younger, I tried to I had
Speaker 6: to go get designer, I had to have the nicest colors.
Speaker 2: I still do that now, but it's simple. I simplified.
Speaker 6: I get enough polos, enough sweaters.
Speaker 2: That's my swang. It's not simple.
Speaker 3: He's got these nice as shoes on, he's got these.
Speaker 2: Enough, and like, you got it enough. But this is
Speaker 2: basical to me.
Speaker 3: These pants are new, I think, Actually, no, they're not.
Speaker 5: Like you don't care like you walk in like you
Speaker 5: do not your shoes that's in there right now, a
Speaker 5: lot of people.
Speaker 2: In the build and walk them out of the building.
Speaker 2: Like I'm just saying, like you don't actually care.
Speaker 3: What you're saying is you need to care more. You
Speaker 3: need to care more about what.
Speaker 6: You get your pair of Air Force one, get your
Speaker 6: get your get you a couple of.
Speaker 2: Pair of jeans. Look, get you a couple of pair
Speaker 2: of jeans and get a bunch of polos. You're good.
Speaker 2: That's that's your drove right now.
Speaker 3: Julie, what do you think is that? Good? Thumbs up?
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, listen, listen, but we only tell you
Speaker 5: this because we care about it.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it and that'll that'll do it for today though,
Speaker 4: all right, So I appreciate the advice. And if you
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Speaker 3: What are you fired up? This week?
Speaker 2: About? Everything?
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