1 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: The is one Bill's Live presented by called Light of Health. 2 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: All right, strapping Bills fans, It's Bills Chiefs Week, seemingly 3 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: an annual occurrence. Now they may as well be a 4 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: division opponent. We've played more than division opponents for the 5 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: fifth time since the beginning of the twenty twenty season, 6 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: counting playoffs, of course. And here we are again, and 7 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: we will be here again next year when the Bills 8 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: play against the AFC, way of which the Chiefs are 9 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: a member. We will dive headlong into all of this 10 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: in short order. But uh, small, tiny little critter story. Okay, 11 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: Steve and I are walking through the field house to 12 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: go up for a cup of coffee in the cafeteria 13 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: this morning, and it is an unmistakable sound that you 14 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: know instantly it's a cricket, right, like going bananas in full, 15 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: in full, like this isn't even cricket season. He and 16 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: this this cricket's filling up the room. I mean you 17 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: can hear it from like ye away and clear as 18 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: a bet. So we tracked him down. He was in 19 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: the men's room in the field house, right hanging out 20 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: by the drain on the floor. And you want to 21 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: talk like usually when you get close to a cricket, 22 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: they you know, they're quiet. They stopped chirping, and then 23 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, once they think it's safe again, they fired 24 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: it up. This guy did not stop, unaffected by the 25 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: presence of humans. I really never witnessed one lie when 26 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: you look at and have his wings up and he's 27 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: like like strumming together. Yeah, and it was loud. Yeah, 28 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: it was loud. He had good acoustics there in the 29 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: men's room. Yeah, echo, no wonder we could hear it. 30 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: But he was killing he was killing it. Unfortunately, I 31 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna find a friend um or a 32 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: significant other, because we're past the season. He just survived. 33 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm guessing in the drainage pipe and you know here 34 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: he is. You know, when a climate controlled Bill's fieldhouse. 35 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: I will say this though, it's a good sign, because 36 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: my Italian grandmother would tell you that if you find 37 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: crickets in your home, it's considered good luck. Um, so 38 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: long as you don't kill them. You know, you're not 39 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: supposed to know, so m my Italian grandmother would be 40 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: the first to tell you you find crickets in your home, 41 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: it's good luck. My wife and I actually had them 42 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: in the basement of our first home. Like I don't 43 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: know how they were getting in through the foundation, but 44 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: they were finding their way in. And I'd be getting 45 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: up in the morning and be like, what that are they? 46 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: I go in the basement. There's like three or four 47 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: of them down there. Yeah, And so now I'm just like, 48 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm thinking of my grandma. I can 49 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: go now, I gotta catch him, you know, scoop them 50 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: up and get him out of the house. But this 51 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: is a good sign for the Bills. Whereas a cricket 52 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: in the cricket in the house, I knew there was 53 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: a point to this. There's a cricket in the field house. 54 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: He under the guidelines and Italian heritage. It is good luck. 55 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: The Chiefs have a five hundred above five hundred win percent. 56 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: It's either twelve and nine or something when they are 57 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: at home. I think when they're at home and with 58 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes at quarterback ten or more points behind at 59 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: some point in the game, they have a They have 60 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: above five hundred record in those games where they spot 61 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: a team ten or more points. We saw it last night. 62 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: We saw it last night again. So it in that 63 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: AFC Championship game against the Tennessee Titans, and they went 64 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: and yes, when the Titans were rolling, they were up 65 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: like twenty four to tenners. It's a little early in 66 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: the game though, yeah, But and I think it was 67 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: by halftime, wasn't it. They were up twenty four to 68 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: like three, and all of a sudden, big did he bop, 69 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: did he boop plank didy plink plaink boom boom down 70 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: the field and it's twenty four to twenty one Chiefs 71 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: before halftime. I couldn't believe that that's last Chiefs. That's 72 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: when the Chiefs were like like nothing we'd ever seen it. 73 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: It's become old hat, which is insane to say, because 74 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: we talk all the time about how the margins are 75 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: very narrow in this league and sometimes even if you're 76 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: a really good team like the Bills, if you're just 77 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: a little off, you can get yourself beat. And yet 78 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: here are the Chiefs who sleep walk for a half 79 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: and like, all right, well you know what what is it? Oh, 80 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: it's okay, it's a quarter. We got kick this into game. 81 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: It was twenty to ten, just like the Bills Ravens game. 82 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: At half. I knew where that thing was, right, I 83 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: mean you could feel it. Oh my god. And even 84 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: in the end at the in the third quarter, I 85 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: think late in the third quarters, late in the game 86 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: when now famously Derek Carr's back to pass gets sack, stripped, fumble, 87 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: fallen on and instead of the ball going to the 88 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: Chiefs going the other way first down, it was, oh no, 89 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: it's roughing the passer. We're gonna give the Raiders more 90 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: yards and a first down. And the Chiefs overcame that. 91 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: It was amazing. Listen, you've got to have the ball. 92 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: You have got to be humming on all cylinders when 93 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: you get into the Arrowhead stadium. Yes, because we have 94 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: not been able to find a defense that has been 95 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: able to completely shut the Chiefs down. Well, now I 96 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: think we can think. Now, I'll take a look and 97 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: double check, but I think we can safely say to 98 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: this point in the season. Maybe not. I was gonna 99 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: say this is the best the Bills is the best 100 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: defense they will face so far this year. Tampa's got 101 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: a pretty good defense. They hung forty one on them. Yeah, well, 102 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: so we'll see. I mean, we've got some work to do. 103 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a it's a club where this 104 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: This game was a good game, no question. Thirty to 105 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: twenty nine was the final Chiefs walk out with a win, 106 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: um and us, you know, kind of a so so 107 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: so there moment for them, like yeah, how about this then, 108 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: if you're gonna do that, And because they were on 109 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: the wrong end of a couple of calls of Derek 110 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: Carr threw it really well, Davantae Adams had a couple 111 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: of catches. Travis Kelsey twenty five yards receiving. Sounds like 112 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: a great night except oh yeah, four touchdowns, twenty five yards, 113 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: four touchdowns. Let's talk about that for a second, Steve, 114 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: because I don't know about you, but on three of 115 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: the four touchdowns that Kelsey scored, the Raiders aren't anywhere 116 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: near it. I know what It's like, are you serious? 117 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: Like this rookie, how is this guy this open? Yeah, 118 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: it's like some rookie undrafted player nobody's ever heard of, 119 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: is you know, out there and they say, you know what, 120 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: this guy, if this guy can beat is so be it. 121 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: And the guy goes out and catches four touchdowns. That's 122 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. Yeah, And they were like like on the 123 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: game winner on the game winner. He's like back there 124 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: and it's like there's one Raider, two Chiefs and it 125 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: couldn't have been an easier catch. What do you I 126 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: don't know how you don't have that guy surrounded front. 127 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: You got him front, like think about basketball defense. You 128 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: runt him and you have somebody behind him too. Yeah, 129 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. It's inexplicable to me. Davante 130 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: Adams had a nice night over one hundred yards and 131 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: all that they had, one hundred yard rusher, one hundred 132 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: yard receiver, didn't turn it over, didn't turn it over once, 133 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: and they still they lost. That's total. That's such a 134 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: Raider's Raiders football. Yeah, so there you go, and on 135 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: the last play of the game, Davante Adams and Renfro 136 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: run into each other to seal the loss. That was 137 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: that is so bad? Well, Josh McDaniels at his finest. Yeah, 138 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: there's no love loss for Josh McDaniels in Western New 139 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: York and with Bill's fans former offensive coordinator Patriots. Um, 140 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: just a weird game, and so this the whole football 141 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: world is up in arms. I just, on one hand, 142 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: I love it. On the other hand, I'm like, just 143 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: shut up. They're like, how you know the entire pas Yeah, 144 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: roughing the pad tom Brady. Think we talked about that yesterday, 145 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: the Tom Brady roughing the passer call against Atlanta for 146 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Last night's roughing the passer call 147 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: on Pat Mahomes against the Raiders, all is Oh, my Christians, 148 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: it's so it's so horrible. Oh my god. The league 149 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: really can't afford to get to Oh wow, this is 150 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: really good. I'm like, bro, the League's gonna be fine. 151 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: They overcame a missed at this just end. They overcame 152 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: a missed pass interference in a championship game for the 153 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: team to go to the Super Bowl. They didn't even 154 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: a hiccup over that. You think this, you think his 155 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: last weekend is really going to get him. The officials, 156 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: they've obviously been given some instructions and some points of 157 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 1: emphasis to say, listen, make sure the quarterbacks don't get 158 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,239 Speaker 1: slung to the ground. Make sure anybody who gets up staggering, 159 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: you know, protect these guys. So they come out and 160 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: a couple of officials have a couple of overreaction calls 161 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: like this one with Derek Carr and the one on 162 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: Sunday with Tom Brady. You know, Carl Jeffers and Jerome Boger, 163 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: the two officials in question, very experienced, very respected officials. Okay, 164 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: give these guys a chance to adjust. There's a couple 165 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: of bad calls and it cost Atlanta game. But you 166 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: know what, it was a Week five game in the 167 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: regular season, right, And that wasn't that his championship game. 168 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: It wasn't the super Bowl, it wasn't a playoff game. 169 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: Come on. But and here's the distinction too, And far 170 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: be it from me to be defending officials, but I'm 171 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: gonna do it here. Typically, when there are changes that 172 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: the Competition Committee or the league as a whole wants 173 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: to institute, they do it in the offseason. They train 174 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: the officials, They run them through it through the course 175 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: of preseason tending training camp practices. You know, crews are 176 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: dispatched to training camps and they practice making those calls 177 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: in a live practice setting, and then they do it 178 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: in preseason games for three weeks and then those points 179 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: of emphasis are properly enforced when you get to the 180 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: regular season. Well, now we got a Week four men 181 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: EMO coming out and like they're telling the officials, Hey, 182 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: we gotta call this a little bit tighter here, guys. 183 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: So they're doing it in real time in the regular season, 184 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: with no prep and with no trial by fire, you know, 185 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: trial and error kind of approach like they have in 186 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: the preseason, and it's it's like, go and do it 187 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: and be perfect. And it's at regular season speed too. Man. 188 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: I'll say this. The thing last night with Chris Jones 189 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: and Derek Carr, Jones hits him from behind, they fall 190 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: down together. You didn't know the ball was losing until 191 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: Jones got up with it. So the thing about him 192 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: having the ball when they fall down and nobody knows 193 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: that until he gets up with it, they're not gonna 194 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: know that. And him bouncing off Derek Carr is quintessential 195 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: quarterback roughing. So the fumble and all that's irrelevant. So yeah, 196 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: So Carl Jeffers, while everybody wishes it should have been 197 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: a turnover and all that, it should have been a 198 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: turnover for the Chiefs, you know, cut the guy some slack. 199 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: That was a tough call to make. You can't see 200 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: the ball he's in he's standing behind the quarterback. He's 201 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: in the background of the frame that he doesn't see 202 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: the ball come out, the ball out, but he does 203 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: see him land with full force on Derek Carr. That's 204 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: quintessential quarterback roughing. So and from his view, I mean, yeah, okay, 205 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: got it right now. The one Jerome Boger on Sunday 206 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: against Tom Brady, that was a soft call that should 207 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: not have been made. But what call did it look? 208 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: What play did it look like? The most oh to 209 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: looked like two of getting whipped to the ground again 210 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: Cincinnati on the previous Thursday, And you can bet so 211 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: as soon as it looks the same. And he saw 212 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: that guy suffer a concussion, he's thinking, all, geez, I 213 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: better call this roughing the passer here because it looks 214 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: just like what TWA got a concussion on and it's 215 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: Tom and it's Tom Brady right right, all of that. 216 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: We hate to say that, but it might or might not. 217 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: But that's the thing. So it's crazy to think these 218 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: guys gonna get it right like that every time. Now 219 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: that that sling to the ground, even the Twa Tonga 220 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: bloh one where he was out that wasn't Milano's was 221 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: penalized because MoMA, remember gave him the push in the 222 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: chest and pushed in. But the one on Thursday night 223 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: that was nothing. No, but you can obviously say you can. 224 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: You can kind of connect the dots. The League said, 225 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: watch out for the way they did too on this 226 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: sling to the ground, yep, hitting his head sideways. Watch 227 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: out for that. Well you see it happens like, okay, 228 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: I better throw the flag. Well not exactly right, you know. 229 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: So this is and I'll say this too, this is 230 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: actually to me, certainly, those are two calls that are 231 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: not right. They should not have been made in the 232 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: way they were made. Even the Carl Jefferson went in 233 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: Kansas City with the ball being loose, there should be 234 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: some mechanism in the sky, judge and when he gets 235 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: a look at it and say nope, it's gonna be 236 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: a fumble, fumble recovery by the chiefs. All of that stuff. 237 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: But I'll say this, unlike most other issues that the 238 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: league faces, I kind of like the fact that they're 239 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: making a quick and concerted and obvious effort to get 240 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: it right. The two of things set them off, set 241 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: the fans off, set all of us off. It's like, 242 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: you know, the guys shouldn't have been allowed to play 243 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: for us. We mean, you know, the guy shouldn't been 244 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: able to play because he's a good player. We don't 245 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: want him end We'd rather have the backup for the 246 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: Dolphin fans. You want the guy back next week if 247 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: you can get him at least in two weeks without 248 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: a concussion, you know. So that's what the league's reacting to. 249 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: So this is tangible. Listen, the least I've said it 250 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: a million times. The league gets most of these issues right. 251 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: The most of us have a problem with him taking 252 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: too long, and in this case, it's just the opposite 253 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: of that. They went a little too fast and the 254 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: officials weren't ready to make that adjustment smooth. So this 255 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: isn't really a negative situation for me. I mean, I 256 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: get it that the Atlanta fans are jumping up and down. 257 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: You got every right to be mad. It cost you 258 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: a game, it costs you a chance to be number 259 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: one in the division and all that. But we've always 260 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: said if you're bummed about losing a game because of 261 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: an officials call late, well, welcome to the club. You 262 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: can join the rest of the thirty one other teams 263 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: who have also had that exact same thing happen at 264 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: some point in their history. Welcome, Welcome, Is this your 265 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: first Is this your first trip to the club? Awesome? 266 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: You know they're just trying to get it right and 267 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: it's a little bumpy getting there. I don't have a 268 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: problem with it at all. I mean, I get it, 269 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: the calls were wrong, and you'd like to see him 270 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: get right, and you'd like to see him have a 271 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: way to fix it on site in real time without 272 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: stopping the game for fifteen minutes. But you know, I 273 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: get all that. All these things are obvious results of 274 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: what we're trying to fix and what we've seen happen 275 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: in recent weeks. So let's just take breath and say, Okay, well, 276 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: we'll get it right eventually, and the guys are gonna 277 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: get better at it because I'll say this, this happens, 278 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: and I know it does. The league sends the video clips. 279 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: If they don't watch TV, these officials when they're on 280 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: their free time during the week or whatever they're doing, 281 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: the League sends them out and said, listen, guys, yes 282 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: to this, no to that, yes to this, no to that, 283 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: and here's a couple of others. Yes to these. See 284 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: this one, this one and this one. Yes, this one 285 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: and this one and this one. No, they give them 286 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: all those instructions, you know, so they'll get better at it. Yeah, 287 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: so you know, pump the brakes, you know, the past 288 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: the roughing, the pastor's stuff will get straightened out. They'll 289 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: they'll tweak the sky judge. You give him a little 290 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: bit more leeway, and they'll get better for it. But this, 291 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean even Peter King or Buddy, he said, Oh wow, 292 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: the league can't afford too many more days like this, 293 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: Like what what are you talking like seriously, like like 294 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: this call in the regular season against the Atlanta Falcons 295 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: is gonna bring the league crashing down. I don't know 296 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna have I'm a hard time of seeing that. Yeah, 297 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: we could talk more about that at eight oh three, 298 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: five fifty one, eight eight five fifty two, five fifty 299 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: the number to get on board. We're also discussing the following. 300 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: We know that the Bills have gone deep into their 301 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: depth chart in light of all the injuries they've sustained 302 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: through the first month plus of the season. Which Bill's 303 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: depth player has impressed you the most and why we 304 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: have some choices for you on the tweet sheet at 305 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: one Bills Live A Khalil Shakier, B DeMar Hamlin, see 306 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: Quintin Morris or d somebody else because there are other candidates. 307 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: So you tell us which Bill's Depth player has impressed 308 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: you the most and why. Early returns have Shaquier out 309 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: in front with DeMar Hamlin not close, not far behind. Sorry, 310 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, no love for the tight end. 311 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: Somebody vote for Quentin Morris please. But let's go to 312 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: the phones at eight oh three oh five fifty one 313 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty got an 314 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: open line for you there and we'll see what you 315 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: guys have to say. We go to see and am 316 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: Hurst first, what do you got for Steve? Hey, guys, 317 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: thanks so much for taking my call. Obviously, I'm in 318 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: the best mood ever, because why not. We're four and one. 319 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: This is a fun season so far. I have a 320 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: couple points to make um. The first one is Justin Tucker. 321 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I'm not going to talk about Justin Tucker, 322 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: but that made me laugh yesterday with how long you 323 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: stayed on the call with that guy. I was dead, 324 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: I was my wife is doesn't listening with me normally, 325 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: and she looked at me and was like, are you 326 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: kidding me? Is why haven't they hung up on him yet? 327 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, well, we try to give everyone 328 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: their time. I appreciate it. So the one thing with 329 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: the rough and the pastor calls that I have to 330 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: talk about, there was two things from the game last night. 331 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 1: I believe there was a point where Mason Crosby got 332 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: a free shot right into Mahomes and he just wrapped 333 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: him up and like hugged him but held him standing. 334 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: And I feel like the game changed last night because 335 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: of the calls that have been happening. And Justin Tucker 336 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm not sorry, Justin Tucker's on my mind. 337 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: But Max Mason Crosby or Max Cross. Max Rosby wrapped 338 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: up Mahomes and just hugged him in the air and 339 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: then said until the whistle blew and then just put 340 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: him down nicely. So I wonder if that's gonna be 341 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: like something we see because they're afraid to do anything 342 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: to the quarterbacks. But again, like you've been saying, Steve, 343 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: I don't think this is going to change the game 344 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: too much. I think they're they're gonna course correct themselves 345 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: and fix it, and I'm totally fine with it. I think. 346 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: Also the other thing is we see it a lot 347 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: now because a lot of people are watching Red Zone 348 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: and that game was live on Red Zone on Sunday 349 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: when Brady got hit, so a lot of people reacted more. 350 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: And then the last night was nationally televised. And then 351 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: the last thing to talk about is the Bill's defense 352 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Man, I know the offense was on all cylinders, 353 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: but I think the defense. My friend and I were 354 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: talking about how the Bill's defense has that been don't 355 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: break philosophy, and how I think Kenny Pickett through for 356 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,239 Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty yards or something close to that, 357 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: and you think that you'd see at least twenty one, 358 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: maybe twenty eight points on the board when a QB 359 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: has that many yards, But you see the three and 360 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: you're like, man, they really didn't break. They just they 361 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: bent a little and then they shut them down right 362 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: in the red zone or when they needed to. Obviously 363 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: a couple of miskicked help. But I think the defense 364 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: is playing on another level. And since you just brought 365 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 1: up the player that's in depth that's appreciated. Khalil Shakir 366 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: is my answer, because I expected good things, but the 367 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: difficulty of the catches he's making are incredible and so 368 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: much fun to watch, and I think he's just on 369 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: another level for a fifth round rookie. So I love 370 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: the season. I love the show. Guys, keep doing what 371 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: you're doing. I'll hang up and listen. Thanks guys, all right, 372 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: thanks for the call. Yeah. The red zone defense, incidentally, 373 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: was not very good out of the shoot. The first 374 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: three weeks, the Bills were somewhere. They had given up 375 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: seven touch They hadn't given up many possessions in the 376 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: red in their red zone, but when they did, they 377 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: were given up touchdowns. They gave up seven of their 378 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: first eight possessions allowed down there for touchdowns. But then 379 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: in the Ravens game they improved. Obviously, Poyer with the 380 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: big pick at the end of the game was a 381 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: red zone style and they carried that into last week. 382 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: They're tied for ninth in red zone efficiency. Defensively, they 383 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: basically went from twenty first to ninth in two weeks. Well, 384 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a small sample size, So if you 385 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: had one of those games where you do it it's it, 386 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: you know, excuse these statistics a little bit further than 387 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: you'd like, but they're they're top ten. But still I 388 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: think you're right, that's that's one of their that's been 389 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: their issue for more than just this year. It's been 390 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: an ongoing thing. The improvement is encouraging though, and you know, 391 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: you can argue whatever you want here, but takeaways down 392 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: there are gigantic because now you're not even giving them 393 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: three points, you know, with the interception in the end 394 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: zone in Baltimore by Poyer and then didn't they have 395 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: another Oh no, the interception was out in the middle 396 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: of the It's interesting because their offense is twenty first 397 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: in red zone efficiency. They're like bottom third. That's where 398 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: their defensive red zone was as well, in terms of 399 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: keeping them opponents out of the end zone. But like 400 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: I was saying, in the last two weeks, they've they've 401 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,479 Speaker 1: gotten some stops and they've knocked that percentage down. As 402 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: good as their offense has been, it's almost better when 403 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: they strike from deep, you know, they go, you know, 404 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: they're better because they don't get in the red zone. Well, 405 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: and last week they were only one for four in 406 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: the red zone. But nobody cares because they scored ninety 407 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: eight and sixty two yard touchdowns, right, and you're scoring 408 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: drives there were like ten seconds, right, and you think 409 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: about you know, Quentin Morris fumbling in a way as 410 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: he goes in. That's one of them that didn't get 411 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: that's you know, that's a crusher. You know, instead of 412 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: going two for four, they're one for four, and that's 413 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: that's a big percentage rise. So yeah, it's um it's 414 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: it's good point. Their defense is playing extremely well, and 415 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: it starts up front, no question. I think you know, 416 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips being out but Ed Oliver being back in 417 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: and those defensive ends all making hay um I think, 418 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: I think that Greg rus So and Von Miller are 419 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: really really good players and they're playing like it. And 420 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: Epinessa has shown up a little bit this year as well, 421 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: um so has Boogie. In fact, early in the season, 422 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: Boogie got off to a blazing start. He was he 423 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 1: was winning. So they're loving where they're at on their 424 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: d line, and I think that has made a difference 425 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: and a ripple effect into the back end. And you 426 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: can you can say what you want about how banged 427 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: up they've been back there, and the and the depth 428 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: that they've has been tested back there. You know at 429 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: one point you're starting two rookies on the corners. Um. Yeah, 430 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: that front has made a difference for those guys. Let's 431 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: go back to the phones at eight three, five fifty. 432 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: We go to Tom on the west side. Next, let's 433 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: see you here in town because I punch him up. 434 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: What's going on there? He is? Tom? What do you 435 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: got for us? Hey, Chris? Yeah, Steve, Steve. Everybody's always 436 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: given you kudos. Chris. I elect you for the Buffalo 437 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: of Sportscasters Hall of Fame. Oh well, thank you. That's 438 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: very nice. There you go. I'm all about the checks 439 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: in the mailtime. Let's be good comport. Let's pump brownies 440 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: tires for a while. I'm all about it. What do 441 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: you got for a stop? Okay? I was gonna say 442 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: to yesterday's squash war to touch it on today. The 443 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: thigment impressed with me. The most about the Mills is 444 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: their backups. And I gotta give her a shout out 445 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: to Shaquire. He's gonna get my vote, even though I 446 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: didn't do it on the internet. That's fine, And I 447 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: don't have Hammel behind him, and that I want to 448 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: give her a shout out to Dobson because you didn't 449 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: have him on the list. No, I wanted to put 450 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: him on there, but we always leave the d for 451 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: other on the on the choices there and yet but yeah, 452 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: you can submit Dobson. I would have voted for him too. 453 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: I thought he had a masterful game last week running 454 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: the defense. I mean he's not just out there playing, 455 00:24:54,600 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: he's running the defense. That's right. He's taking Edmund spot. Yeah, so, 456 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: uh good, good choices there, Tom and and hey, hey, 457 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm both those sacks yesterday. I thought they were both 458 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: legal and they are bus calls by the routs because 459 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: I mean, how are they gonna train their their students 460 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: to tackle one they're even proper technique. Yeah, yeah, you're right, 461 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: getting harder and harder. We've we've we've talked about that 462 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: as well. We agree with you both those. Neither one 463 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: of those, the Tom brad I think you're talking about, 464 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: the Tom Brady and the end the Mahomes roughing the pastors. Yeah, 465 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: neither one of those was roughing the past or, no 466 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: question about. I think everybody agrees with it. And I'll 467 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: say this, you always here too. Um, you know, people 468 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: sitting on their couch saying, you know, football players don't 469 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: tackle good anymore. They blah blah blah blah. Listen, it's 470 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: hard to tackle well because you can't grab them anywhere 471 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: that is available. You can't get him by the horse collar, 472 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: you can't get him by the you know, the top 473 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: of the jersey in the back, you can't, you know. 474 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: And the way they build these jerseys these days, all 475 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: these guys. You might not realize it, but it's not 476 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: like the shirt you wear where you can reach up 477 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: and grab it and pull it away from you, like 478 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: when you're perspiring and stuff. They're taped down. Yeah, those 479 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: guys need help just putting them on, right, if you 480 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: can't even get them on, so they're taped down. So 481 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: these guys are like it's trying to pinch the skin 482 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: on a fish. You know, you just can't do it. 483 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: It's too tight, right, So good analogy, Steve. So that's 484 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: why it's hard to tack because you can't get a 485 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: handful of anything. Yeah, and you know so you and 486 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: now too. You can't tackle him. You can't hit him 487 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: up around the you know, you can't target head a 488 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: head and you can go low. You know, if you 489 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: go low, guys are just hopping over y'all. A Josh Allen, 490 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: um all these guys, you know, And you can't do 491 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: full body sae quon barkling all that, so it's harder 492 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: and harder. You see these guys, like he mentioned the 493 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: sack on mahomes, remember, and that's the way these and listen, 494 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: whatever they're allowed to do, and I'll just say it 495 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: what it is. Whatever they're allowed to do, they're gonna 496 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: leverage that to inflict the most pain and suffering if 497 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: they can on the guy they're tackling, which means, now, 498 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: if you get a guy around the waist, you're gonna 499 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: rag doll him to the ground as hard as you can. 500 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: That's what happened to two. That's what happened to Tom Brady. 501 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: But that's also why why Max Crosby didn't. He couldn't 502 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: get him off his feet, so he just held him. 503 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: That's always left. So he ends up. They end up. 504 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: It's the safest sack you can make. They right, They 505 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: end up waltzing for half a second until the official says, okay, 506 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: he's got him. That's it. They're asking these defenders to 507 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: tackle guys without anything to grab onto, without being able 508 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: to hit him in certain places, particularly a high because obviously, 509 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: if you're running around, you want to hit him on 510 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: the very top to get more leverage. So they knock 511 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: them off their back because it's better. The leverage means 512 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: it's better to knock him off balance if you hit 513 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: him high, if you hit him in the waist, they'll 514 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: just move over and keep running. Or at the other end, 515 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,239 Speaker 1: at their feet, you take their feet out, you can 516 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: hit him. You can't hit him at the head, so 517 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: you gotta hit him at the feet. Now you got 518 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: guys that are jumping over you, you can't hit them right. 519 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: So I mean, even as a defender, you got you know, 520 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: you got think about it. I'm a I'm a five 521 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: ten two hundred pound five eleven two hundred pound corner 522 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: or safety and I'm coming up and Dion Dawkins is 523 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: coming out on ahead of Josh Allen on a sweep. 524 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: I can't take him on low. Yeah, I can't submarine anymore, 525 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Can't cut. So you know, it's 526 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: hard to play the Five Presidents. Tech Loop was going 527 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: crazy last night. You can imagine what Bruce had to 528 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: say about the guys sacking and all that. Well, you 529 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do. It's almost impossible to play 530 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: defense in the NFL the way we watched guys play 531 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: defense when we were growing up. Moats, It's impossible. Yeah, 532 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: it's totally different. Now let's take a quick break, but 533 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: we're getting to more of your phone calls when we return. 534 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: Which Bill's Depth players impressed you the most and why 535 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: choices are there for you at one Bill's Live. But 536 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: give us your submission next. Stay tuned. We'll be right 537 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: back in a couple of minutes. Bills fans, this week's 538 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: game spots here when the Bills visit the Chiefs is 539 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: Gabes Collision. 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Get back in the game with Gabe's Collision, 545 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: the official auto collision repair center of the Buffalo Bills. 546 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: We're going to get back to your phone calls now 547 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: as we are asking you today which Bill's Depth player 548 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: has impressed you the most so far and why. Next 549 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: up on the docket is Tim in Lackawana. What do 550 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: you got for us? Tim? Hi, guys, thanks for taking 551 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: my call. Sure, Travis Kelsey he always kills us when 552 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: he plays US nine basically in order Bills this plays 553 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: zone all the time. Can't they chuck him at the wine, 554 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: I mean, or disrupt him somehow, put a spy on him, 555 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: double him, Gotta do something with him. Yeah, I mean, 556 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: if if the four touchdowns last night weren't a reminder, 557 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: they should be the key here this time though, And 558 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: you can speak to this Steve if you want. They 559 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about Tyreek Hill now he's no 560 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: longer part of the equation. And I thought, you know, 561 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: over the last several years that Kelsey and Hill expertly 562 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: played off of on another, and Mahomes knew how to 563 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: work with both of those guys. There were ties where 564 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: they would line those two guys up on the same 565 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: side of the field. Good luck with that, Like, what 566 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: are you doing to defend that those two guys? Now 567 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: you don't have Hill as part of the equation. And 568 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Juju Smith, Schuster and Mark has Valdez Scantling, 569 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: the hyphen brothers as I call them. I'm not saying 570 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: those guys can't hurt you or don't have roles. But 571 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: Kelsey is the number one priority this week, and you 572 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: can focus more attention on him because you don't have 573 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: to worry about Tyreek Hill running fifty miles an hour 574 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: behind you. Yeah, they've tried all the things you suggested, Tim, 575 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: and not only the bills. I mean, you can talk 576 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: all you want about the bills and how he kills 577 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: it all. Whatever. He does it to everybody. Did it 578 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: to the Raiders last night. He did it to the 579 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: Raiders last night. Four touchdowns and twenty five yards total. 580 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, if you hold him to twenty five yards, awesome, 581 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: He's got four touchdowns. Well, not so awesome. The yards 582 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: don't matter as much as the points. Yeah, so at 583 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: twenty five yards, at twenty four points, he had almost 584 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: more points than receiving it. Unbelievable. Yeah, the guy's the 585 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: guy's a monster. He plays like a monster. Andy Reid 586 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: uses him like a monster. Pat Mahomes, he's his favorite Monsters, 587 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: favorite monster. The guy's a monster, and you know you 588 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: gotta deal with it. You can hold him down maybe 589 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: you know, um, maybe you gotta just make the other 590 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: maybe if you make the other guys beat you. But 591 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: that's what I've seen guys do this. If Tony Gonzalez, 592 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: he used to do this on the red zone, he 593 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: would come off the ball. They would have too, literally 594 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: a safety and a linebacker and they would just vice him. 595 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: And I don't mean by vice him, I mean they 596 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: both just grab him, push themselves into him and hold 597 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: him there like he was like he was a punt gunner. Yeah, 598 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: that's what they would do. Wouldn't let him off the ball, 599 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: just hold him there. Um, And they would do that. 600 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: So Tony Gonzalez gonna beat us. Maybe you do that 601 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: to Travis Kelsey, but you can't hold him, you know, 602 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: sooner or later he's gonna wrestle free. So and plus 603 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: you've got two guys right there, and that opens up 604 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: a lot of space in the back end of your defense, 605 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: so you know where you you know, you take it 606 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: away there and somebody else may step up. But I 607 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: get it, and Tim, I know it's frustrating to watch 608 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: you know a guy that consistently beats your team or 609 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,959 Speaker 1: has good games against your team. But they're trying everything. 610 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: Everything you can think of, they've thought of twice. I'm 611 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: just telling you, they spin the dial on the coverage 612 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: assignments all the time. Over the years, I have seen 613 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: the following people in coverage against Travis Kelsey, Matt Milano, 614 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer, Tredavious White, Dane Jackson, Mica. I've seen all 615 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: of these guys matched up against him in one coverage 616 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: or another over the last three years. Edmonds. I mean 617 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: it just they've tried everything with varying degrees of success. 618 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: But your point him is well taken because I will 619 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: say this, Back when Mark Kelso was still on the 620 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: Bills radio network with me, this was a weekly topic 621 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: of discussion because the thing that would drive him nuts 622 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: as a former safety is watching guys get free releases, 623 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: especially players the caliber of a Travis Kelsey. Why there 624 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: isn't more collision at the line of scrimmage just to 625 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: reroute him for half a second. Maybe you don't cover 626 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 1: him perfectly, but maybe you've disrupted the timing of the play. 627 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: And look, I know one of his touchdowns last night 628 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: was an off script play. You know. He comes all 629 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: the way across the formation underneath and Mahomes is scrambling 630 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: out and he heads back the other way bing. He 631 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: hits him with a short dart and he runs to 632 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: the other side of the field for a touch. I mean, 633 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: it's a broken play. There's nothing you can do there. 634 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: But maybe on eight routes out of ten, if you 635 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 1: can just collision him at the line of scrimmage, delay him, 636 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: disrupt the timing of the passing game for the Chiefs, 637 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: maybe you have a little more success. I don't know. Yeah, 638 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: they never used to collision Gronk at the line of 639 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: scrimmage all those years in New England. They get them 640 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: a free release off the line. Well, here's the thing. 641 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: If you can set up to pound the guy off 642 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and put Tremaine Edmonds right over 643 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: his head, you put Vaughan or Greg Rousseau right over 644 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: his head. The simple fact of the matter is, once 645 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: you start doing that, they just Mahoma just barks out something. 646 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: He steps off the line of scrimmage and motions across 647 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: the other side, and then what are you gonna do? 648 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: He's in motion. You can't you follow him and then 649 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: take a shot at stopping him when he's on the 650 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: run and you miss. It's the same problem. They can 651 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: make that guy have any kind of release they can 652 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: dictate if they're willing to take the time to do it. 653 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: If they don't him, and they could put him off 654 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and have you know, the hyphen 655 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: brothers shielding him. So thanks for picking up all that's 656 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Valdi's Scantling and Juju Smith, Schuster, all 657 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: those guys can line up to protect. They can do 658 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: anything they want with him. That's the problem. And when 659 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: he got an offense, particularly like an Andy Reid offense, 660 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: where you got this guy and they're gonna give him 661 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 1: free rein whatever you do, they're gonna have an answer 662 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: for the quest. The key is not letting them know 663 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: what you're gonna do before you do it. That that 664 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: leads to free releases because you're trying to stem into 665 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 1: it after the snap. You don't want to put two 666 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: guys on his nose right away because Mahome's season. He goes, hey, bye, 667 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: hey you kelse, let's move over here, and then you're 668 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: then what are you're gonna do you're done? Yeah, your 669 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: little plan went out the window. So you can't let 670 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: them know. That's that's the trick of the whole thing. 671 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones and to Jeff in 672 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: Buffalo next. What do you got for us? Jeff here? 673 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 1: All one bills live. Hey, thanks for taking a call. Guys, 674 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: how you doing today? Doing well? I just you know, 675 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: a couple of points on last night's game. I think 676 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: we got to get the NFL number one. The referees everything. 677 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: The game is too lopsided to the offenses, and I 678 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: get it. They want to see a lot of points scored. 679 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: The game's more exciting. Put on the sack last night 680 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: with the sack fumble, Why can't they make two calls? 681 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: The ball was out before he drilled them into the ground, 682 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: so they recover the ball. It's Kansas City's ball, and 683 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: now there's an unnecessary roughness penalty towards them. And then 684 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: the other call that really bothered me was on the 685 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: field goal attempt when they had a fourth and twenty 686 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: and somebody held in the middle of the line five 687 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: yards automatic first down. It's just it's too easy for 688 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: the offense to get those kind of breaks. I'll just 689 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: hang up and listen to Yeah, Yeah, I get you, 690 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: and I said that too. But let me tell you something. 691 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: They you're not allowed for a defensive lineman to you know, 692 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: the offensive lineman you're trying to get in there to 693 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: rush a field goal. What they do is as an 694 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: offensive lineman fires out to protect on the goal on 695 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: the field goal attempt. You don't charge at him. You 696 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: let him, You let him come off, and you pull 697 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: him further off, opening up a gap in their protection 698 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: where another guy goes through. That's called a pull and 699 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: shoot technique. It's illegal. The Raiders coach their guys to 700 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: do it, and it's illegal, and they gave up a 701 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: missed field goal as a result of coaching their guys 702 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,959 Speaker 1: to do something illegal. So you can say whatever you want. 703 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that. The issue with 704 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 1: the fumble, you're roughing the passer. It's a valid point 705 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: that you make. You should allow a change of possession 706 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: when a defensive player makes a play like that. The 707 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: problem is, and Carl Scheffer's explained this the head referee 708 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: last night in a pool interview with one of the 709 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: Kansas City reporters. He said the reason there wasn't change 710 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: of possession on the play despite the penalty, is because 711 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: the quarterback still is under the protection of the rough 712 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: the passer penalty even if the ball is no longer 713 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: in his possession. He cited an example of we call 714 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 1: roughing the passer after a passes away. If a quarterback 715 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: is hid in the head or neck area or down 716 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 1: around below his knees and the passes away, we will 717 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: still call roughing the passer. There's times where quarterbacks complete 718 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: passes and then they tack fifteen yards on top of 719 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: that for roughing the passer. So the Carl Cheffers was 720 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 1: arguing last night, this is ball out of the quarterback's 721 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 1: hands also, but he's in the pocket and he still 722 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: falls under the protections of roughing the passer even though 723 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the ball anymore. And that's why it 724 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: was officiated that way last night. So what that means too, 725 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: is say Carr gets the ball off and he throws 726 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: an interception, Yeah, it still comes back. So the fumble's irrelevant, 727 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: The fumble and fumble recovery's irrelevant. It's just like it's 728 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: just like if he'd thrown a interception and then got 729 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: flung to the ground play all that comes back. So 730 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: in hindsight, all of that stuff you're saying about what 731 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: happened to Mahomes last night or to Derek Carr last 732 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: night on the on the Jones Sack, it was called correctly. 733 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: You may not like it, yeah, under the letter of 734 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: the law, right, but that's what it was called correctly. 735 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: We don't like it. But if you're gonna, you gotta. 736 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: The problem is that there is ripple effects and like 737 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 1: in the instance I just describe, where you throw an interception, 738 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: it comes back because of roughing the passer. We're all 739 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: okay with that because that's the rule. We get it. 740 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,479 Speaker 1: This is the same as that, but it's it's really 741 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,959 Speaker 1: not you know what I'm saying. It's ruled the same 742 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: as that for good reason, but this is different because 743 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: the ball was right there and the reason the roughing 744 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: happened was because the guy was getting possession of the 745 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: ball that was free in the pocket. That makes this different. 746 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: But it's ruled the same way. They did it the 747 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 1: right way, called it the right way. Now they need 748 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: to fix it. Yeah, and we can all come up 749 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: with it, can all come up with obvious ways. Undoubtedly 750 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: be a topic of discussion this coming offseason by the 751 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,439 Speaker 1: Competition Committee. Do we adjudicate that differently when the ball 752 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: is stripped out and the guy just because he made 753 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: a play and now he's tripping over the quarterback because 754 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: he has the football falls on top of the guy. Yeah, 755 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: there's always exception. The Tom Brady pass roughing the passer 756 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: call on Sunday against the Atlanta Falcons Tampa Bay Atlanta, 757 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: bad call, poor use of the rule. It's an overreaction 758 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: to what we've seen happened with two of the weeks before. 759 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: It should never have been called. It was a bad call. 760 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: There's no reason to fix it that the guy just 761 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: called too soft a penalty. The call last night in 762 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: Kansas City was called correctly, but it's in a situation 763 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: that needs to be addressed differently there, so there should 764 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: be a different there should be a different rule for that. 765 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: So it's now this and this conversation tells you how 766 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: complicated it is when you get into these discussions. That's 767 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,439 Speaker 1: why you know, asking these refs to change how they're 768 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: calling this particular infraction f on the fly within the 769 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: scope of the regular season, at regular season speed, without 770 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: any run up or preparation. It's a hard ask, and 771 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: it's why we've seen some inconsistencies this past week. Gotta 772 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,919 Speaker 1: take a break here, more of your phone calls next, 773 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: those of you holding at eight oh three fifty, hang tight. 774 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 1: We'll try to get to you here in the next 775 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 1: segment on One Bill's Live, stay tuned. He's at the twenty, 776 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: the ten, the five touchdowns, snap Dragon Apples this Bill's season. 777 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 1: Head to your local Wegmans to experience the epic flavor 778 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 1: and monster crunch of snap Dragon apples, the official apples 779 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 1: of your Buffalo Bills. Steve is eagerly anticipating the arrival 780 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: of those here in the studio. We'll see. They're a 781 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 1: myth right now, I trust me. They do exist, um, 782 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: and we will see them in due course. We're shameless 783 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: too about asking for free stuff. Let's get back to 784 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 1: the phones, though, as we are asking you today which 785 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 1: Bill's death player has impressed you the most. There are 786 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: choices on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live, but 787 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: feel free to make a choice of your own if 788 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: you're calling in a Nato three oh five fifty. But 789 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: we go back to the phones and to Jerry in 790 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: Lavonia next Jerry are on one bills Live. But yeah 791 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: for us, well, first of all, I want to say hello, 792 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: are you guys? Yes? Hello. I picked Elam for the 793 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: player because isn't he the only cornerback has played every game? Uh? Yeah, 794 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 1: Dany Jackson's most time, Tern's been playing every time? Oh Teren, yeah, 795 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,879 Speaker 1: Ter Johnson, thank God? On the edges, I guess yeah. 796 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: I pick him because, you know, I think I think 797 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: he learns something Sunday. I think he's learning. And the 798 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,479 Speaker 1: fact that we're doing so well considering he's playing so much, 799 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: I think I think he's going to turn out to 800 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: be a real gem. But the other reason why I 801 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: called gentlemen is the fact that I wanted to make 802 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,359 Speaker 1: a comment about the roughing the passer the title think 803 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: you guys are talking about if I heard a suggestion 804 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: on ESPN. I think it was last night that they 805 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 1: were talking about making all roughing the passer penalties reviewable, 806 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: kind of like they do, you know of the helmet 807 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,800 Speaker 1: the helmet kind of thing, you know, that way, Maybe 808 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: maybe they'll retract it if they don't think it. I 809 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: don't know, but I thought, at least at least it's 810 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: taking another look at you know what I mean. I 811 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,439 Speaker 1: thought that was a good suggestion. What do you guys 812 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: think that I was talking about a sky judge. They've 813 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: got the sky judge overlooking everything and it's been really, 814 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: I think, highly successful because that they have a strict 815 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 1: view of what they can and cannot. So the sky 816 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: judge will come back and like yes, like last week 817 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 1: in the Pittsburgh game, Pickings catches the ball at the 818 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: one yard line, gets his second foot down. They call 819 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: it a catch before they even spot the ball. The official, 820 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,919 Speaker 1: I can't remember our official from the game's name comes 821 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: out and says hey, after further discussion on the field, 822 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 1: John Hussey says, it's an incomplete pass. Well, the discussion 823 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: on the field was the sky judge coming down, seeing 824 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: the review, seeing the replay and saying, hey, you missed that. 825 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: It was it was out, It was obvious, spot the 826 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 1: ball back at the line of scrimmage and that was it. Boom, 827 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: presto chango. That's what could happen theoretically, that's what could 828 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 1: happen with a roughing the passer call too, But it 829 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: just calls for one more step down the road where 830 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: the eye and the sky has full control over everything. 831 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how far the league wants to go 832 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: with that, because like everything else, it'll have unforeseen ripple 833 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: effects into other areas and is then you're you're down 834 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: a slippery slope. But I'm kind of with you. It 835 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: should be just about everything should be everything should be 836 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: reviewable by that guy. But right now I think they're 837 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: very limited or you know, strictly limited to whatever it 838 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,760 Speaker 1: is they're able to review. That's not one of them yet. 839 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: It may that may change, that may change. Yeah, let's 840 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: get back to the phones. David and Orchard Park is 841 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 1: up next. What do you got for us? David? Hold on, 842 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: let me get you. Is this not coming up there? 843 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: He is, David, what do you got for us? I'm here? Yeah, Sorry, 844 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: we have trouble punching you up there. We got you now, Okay. 845 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: My cussion and my thought about is about concussion protocols 846 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: versus Josh because the way he runs and the way 847 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: he gets hit in the background, he could easily get 848 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: you know, a little cap he did on one of 849 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 1: the plays earlier in the second half when he ran, 850 00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 1: he got knocked backwards, hit his head a little bit up. However, 851 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: hit a little harder to two seconds to get up. 852 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: He could have been him concussion protocol. Yeah, so my 853 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: thought about what the Bills could think about, you know, 854 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: doing that. So you're thinking, like, have him run less 855 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 1: so he doesn't fall victim to that kind of a call. 856 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: Now with the ataxia now being added to concussion protocol 857 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: as an automatic no go for the rest of the game, 858 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: is that what you're saying. Well, I don't know about 859 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: not running at all, but you know it should be 860 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,720 Speaker 1: a concern. I guess that's with him. Yeah, I get it, David, 861 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: and I and I understand why because I'm telling you 862 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:45,240 Speaker 1: right now. Have you seen what got Teddy Bridgewater removed 863 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,959 Speaker 1: from the game last week, Steve. It's the first play 864 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: from scrimmage from Miami. He goes back to pass, he 865 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 1: gets hit as he throws, he falls down, He doesn't 866 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: slam his head on the turf. He falls on his back, 867 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 1: he gets up. There is no stumbling whatsoever, like nut 868 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 1: in my estimation. And the ref is like, whoa, hey, oh, 869 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: we got a guy. He's he's got trouble over here, 870 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: and they they remove him from the game. Here it 871 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 1: is right now, We're gonna see it right now, and 872 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 1: our MSG viewers just seeing he gets hit. He doesn't 873 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: really hit his head. You can't see there because he 874 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: falls into the white of the end zone. Right. Well, 875 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: here's the thing too, the official walks up on him 876 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: and looks at him, and he doesn't look right. I 877 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 1: mean the official, I don't know. To me, he hits 878 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: the ground, but his head doesn't really hit the ground. 879 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 1: He does get up slowly, but there's no wobbling. There's 880 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: no stumbling like he's watching the rest of the play, 881 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, no freeze pose like we saw with Tua. 882 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: He gets removed from the game, and he had an 883 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: elbow injury because, as you saw, their sauce's helmet hit 884 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 1: his elbow. When he gets up. The only thing he 885 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: really does is he's shaking his hand out because his 886 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 1: elbow's killing him. And that was it he got from 887 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 1: the games we're seeing now have enough of that after 888 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: the play for us to make an evaluation. I saw 889 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 1: a different replay that lasted far longer. It was an 890 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 1: independent camera from a local New York television station. All 891 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 1: he's doing is shaking his arm because he got hit 892 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,760 Speaker 1: like right on his funny bone, right, and they actually 893 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: diagnosed him after the game with an elbow injury. Um, 894 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 1: but he got removed under the new addition to the 895 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 1: concussion protocol. So yeah, it's a it's a concern, man. 896 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: You know, Josh gets I'm right with him. Josh gets 897 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,240 Speaker 1: up slow from some kind of hit. Even though he's fine. 898 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: They could say, oh, yeah, you know, you stumbled that 899 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 1: he could get he could fall victim to the turf 900 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 1: monster and stub his toe on the turf, and they 901 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,879 Speaker 1: get they stumbled, get get him out of the game, 902 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 1: and now he can't come back in the game. It 903 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 1: could happen, no kidding, I mean, guy has been five 904 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 1: years of this. Yeah, he got put out of the 905 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 1: New England game when he was a rookie because he 906 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 1: got a concussion. Well, yeah, that's what happened to Tyrod 907 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 1: Taylor in a playoff game for the Buffalo Bills when 908 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: they're driving to try and tie it up and win, 909 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,840 Speaker 1: Tyrod gets whacked helmet to helmet. He gets up and 910 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 1: he's fine. The officials, I don't know, and sends him 911 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: off in a playoff game when you're on a winning drive. 912 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the party, everybody. Yeah, Josh runs it. He's 913 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: gonna go down what I'm saying is there's an even 914 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: greater attention being paid to this by the officials now 915 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: because of what's been added to the concussion Protocol by 916 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 1: the league and the Players Association. The slightest bit of 917 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:48,479 Speaker 1: hesitation by a quarterback, the slightest bit of equilly about 918 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,320 Speaker 1: Josh this last weekend when he got dumped by Campaign, 919 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: it looked bad. It looked worse than any highlight we've 920 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 1: shown today on the show. It looked worse than any 921 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,719 Speaker 1: of them. And he got up like nothing, and then 922 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,359 Speaker 1: the next pass he threw was like, whoas off the market? 923 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 1: What are you doing? And the only thing that got 924 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: me off of worrying, I like, this is bad. The 925 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 1: only thing that got me off that train of thought 926 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 1: was the fact that after he threw that horrific pass, 927 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 1: he ran over to two digs and started going, you 928 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 1: know he was They started having a real talking anisation. 929 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, all right, he's fine. But up 930 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 1: until that point, I was like, I don't know, I 931 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 1: was worried. Yeah, and that was this last game this week, 932 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, if you guys are worried about it, 933 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 1: will now there's an extra sensitive to listen you're late 934 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,399 Speaker 1: to the party. Broce Leavage. You've been worry You should 935 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 1: have been worried about this more heightened. You've been worried. 936 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,320 Speaker 1: Should have been worried about this since the Baltimore Ravens 937 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: game five years ago, twenty eighteen, in a driving rainstorm. 938 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: That's when the worries should have started, because it's been 939 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: going on since then. And the fact that you think 940 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: maybe an officials gonna call him where you've been, I 941 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 1: think there's a greater chance it gets called now and yeah, 942 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,880 Speaker 1: and a quarterback is removed when they shouldn't be. I 943 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 1: understand they're trying to protect these guys. There's a greater chance, 944 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,399 Speaker 1: but they're they're doing it because they don't want Josh 945 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 1: off the field anymore than we do. You think the 946 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 1: networks want Josh Adams standard with a baseball cap, not 947 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: but watching case keenom play. Yeah, but but Steve, this 948 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 1: is different because it's not just hey, he's got to 949 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 1: go get checked for a head injury with the opportunity 950 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 1: to return to the game. It's no, I see a taxia. 951 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: He's out for the rest of the game. No questions asked, 952 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: no tests performed, no way back in the game over, 953 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 1: day over. It's different. It's different now with this addendum 954 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,919 Speaker 1: to the concussion protocol because you just saw Two would 955 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 1: come back in the game. We don't know where the 956 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: hell he was in week three, he missed three plays. 957 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: Here's where you gotta remember, the risk for Josh is identical. 958 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,319 Speaker 1: The rules may make it different, but the risk and all, 959 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: like all we should care about is where the Josh's health. 960 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 1: I agree with that. It's not about whether Josh is 961 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 1: healthy and can play or Josh's got a concussion and 962 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 1: can still keep playing. That's about that, and that's what 963 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 1: you're and that's what the difference is. They should have 964 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 1: taken two out of the Buffalo game and they didn't. 965 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 1: Nobody cares because he got whacked four days later. Now 966 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: they're now they're all up in arms. Nobody No, it's 967 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 1: this head And I don't know why head injuries all 968 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: of a sudden push people's buttons, because let me tell 969 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 1: you something, I was just as upset when Tradevius went 970 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 1: down with an non contact ACL because that's a year 971 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,359 Speaker 1: his life that he does nothing else but sit there 972 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: and have people working on him and him working on 973 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: I get it. Fans are all about this because they 974 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 1: picture a guy not being able to function cognitively later 975 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 1: in life. Let me tell you something, I care about 976 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 1: him orthopedically. Their hands hurt, they're getting their hips were placed. 977 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 1: That's just as important as everything else. So all this 978 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 1: stuff about hey, maybe he won't be able to play, nobody, 979 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: you shouldn't care if that's the case. It's not about 980 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 1: whether they can play or not. It's about are they 981 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: gonna be healthy? So if that's then you got to be. 982 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 1: It's gotta be one or the other. So spare me 983 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: the bleeding heart stuff about how this guy's got a 984 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 1: head injury. But I don't really care about this guy 985 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 1: getting his femur fracts. I don't think anybody's saying that, Steve. 986 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm just that's the that's the same logic they're missing 987 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 1: the point. They're using the same logic. They're saying that 988 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: this head injury thing and coming out of the game 989 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 1: for maybe what's not an injury is really really egregious 990 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: and risky because of Josh when something coming out with 991 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 1: it's okay if he goes out there and plays with 992 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,320 Speaker 1: a busted thumb or a busted arm or a torn 993 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,880 Speaker 1: rotator cuff on his off shoulder, all of that stuff. 994 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 1: Nobody cares about that stuff. Come on, if you're gonna care, care, 995 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: if you don't, don't, but the guy, you know. And 996 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's not going to be without controversy 997 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 1: because the Dolphins are probably arguing that Teddy Bridgewater was 998 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 1: wrongfully removed from a game that they wound up losing 999 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 1: because they had to start their rookie seventh round quarterback, 1000 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: their third stringer and they lost to the Jets. Ironically, 1001 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 1: who's to blame for that? I think the Dolphins. Yeah, 1002 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Karmen is that, you know what. But still, 1003 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 1: in all I think it's gonna be something that's not 1004 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: going to be without controversy because they're not always gonna 1005 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 1: get it right. But I'd rather have them here on 1006 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 1: the side of caution. I'm with you, it's not gonna 1007 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 1: it's not it's not gonna be without controversy. I'm just 1008 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 1: waiting to see it again at some point this season. 1009 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, too, It's you're right, it's gonna happen. 1010 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna walk away without a concussion. Who's not gonna 1011 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: be allowed to play? Yeah, And it's and it could 1012 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: and it could be Josh Allen this Sunday in Kansas City. 1013 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 1: It's possible. We gotta take a break because we got 1014 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas waiting in the wings. The Hall of Famer 1015 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,359 Speaker 1: coming your way next year. On One Bill's Live. Stay 1016 00:55:42,360 --> 00:56:34,280 Speaker 1: tuned these One Bill's Live presented by called Light of Health, 1017 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 1: our number two on Tuesday of Chief's Weak, Chris Brown 1018 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 1: step fast here with you along with the Hall of 1019 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: Famer Thurm and Thomas thinking his weekly appearance. How you doing, Therm, Good, 1020 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 1: good Chief week, Chief's Weak. Yeah, they're practically a division opponent, Therm. 1021 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 1: We see this team just about every year every year. Now, 1022 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,879 Speaker 1: just play them again next year in the schedule. What Yeah, 1023 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,760 Speaker 1: they played the AFC West next year as a division 1024 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: and they have to go there again. Come on, you 1025 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 1: go there again? Yeah, because if they win the division 1026 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 1: and the Bills win the East, the home and home 1027 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 1: falls that way. Well, it's because the last time the 1028 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 1: Bills played the AFC West in twenty twenty, they had 1029 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 1: the Chiefs here fans with no fans, yeah, and they 1030 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 1: had the Chargers here, right, and then they played Vegas 1031 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 1: on the road and Denver on the road. That was 1032 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 1: at forty eight nineteen beat down with the Jerry Hughes 1033 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,680 Speaker 1: fumble return for a touchdown. That was a d game 1034 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 1: in Denver. So now in twenty twenty two they get 1035 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 1: Denver in Vegas here and they go to Kansas City 1036 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 1: and two LA Chargers. So yes, on the road again 1037 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 1: back to Arrowhead, which Arrowhead where the Bills you know, 1038 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 1: one in the regular season last year. But obvious, so 1039 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 1: it's almost it can be like, well, that's a hard 1040 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: place to get home field advantage place pretty much contour. 1041 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 1: It just throws all the noise right down on the field. 1042 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 1: It is one of the loudest places I have ever seen. 1043 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 1: In the end of what day it was loud. We 1044 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 1: weren't there obviously, you guys played some Sunday and Monday 1045 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 1: night games. They were loud last night, yeial, oh yeah 1046 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 1: last night and dig the indignation coming out. Yeah, And 1047 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 1: they had cameras right up on the first row of fans. 1048 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 1: You see that guy with the hat with the the 1049 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 1: visor backwards and he has a chief she blazer on 1050 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:49,440 Speaker 1: and he here he is scream, veins popping out. You're horrible, 1051 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 1: you're you. I mean, I've never seen anybody like that. 1052 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 1: It was I don't know. I don't know how different 1053 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 1: my be to have me in the front row of 1054 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 1: stay M doing that for even the bills. I don't 1055 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 1: think I would. I could do enough. I couldn't do it. 1056 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 1: Are you giving me? Are you telling us you've never 1057 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 1: been that upset and an official? Because I would challenge 1058 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 1: you on that. Even when I got thrown the lee, 1059 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't. Let me just say this, I wasn't even 1060 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 1: that upset when I got tossed my last game. Now 1061 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,880 Speaker 1: there were time and I'll say this, that me getting 1062 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 1: toss in my last game, that wasn't even as mad 1063 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: as I'd ever been in an official. That was It 1064 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 1: was just a bad It was just a different set 1065 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 1: of circumstances. I've been really mad at officials. Yeah, oh man, 1066 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 1: I've been here. We go. Um wow, who pulled that 1067 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,120 Speaker 1: out of the archives? They're fast with that, aren't they? 1068 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 1: Marv looking at me when I hate that guy? Is 1069 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 1: that that was Steve's last game? Yeah, that's a long 1070 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 1: time ago. Is that Johnny Greer? There? It was Mike 1071 00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 1: carry You know who else is on that stat was? 1072 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 1: What's his name? Mike Perero was on that staff. Yeah, yeah, 1073 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 1: whatever I deserved. I mean, like you said, that's the 1074 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 1: Linnie Johnson game and we were out of the playoffs. There, 1075 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 1: you knew, you knew. It wasn't because Bruce came out 1076 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 1: in like sleeves. I'm like, oh boy, yeah, because of 1077 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 1: the last game of the season, right, yeah, yeah it 1078 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 1: was cold Green band. That was yeah, it was. That 1079 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 1: was a bad day. Yeah, all the way around. Kenny Irvin, 1080 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,720 Speaker 1: bless his heart, trying to pull me back. That's right. Yeah, 1081 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:35,120 Speaker 1: we just had Kenny. Kenny was just the Lasker's teammate, teammate. 1082 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 1: Oh was it last week? Him trying to save me, 1083 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 1: but his heart I wasn't having it didn't happen. Uh, 1084 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Chiefs Firm, what do you think of last night's game? 1085 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey doesn't have Tyreek Hills a running mate anymore. 1086 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem to matter. Yeah, I mean, what the 1087 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 1: hell were your readers doing. They're not even like really 1088 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 1: throwing a long passes anymore. Everything is short. I mean 1089 01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 1: kind of like you know, twelve and fifteen play drives 1090 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 1: now that Kansas City is doing now and they're running 1091 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 1: the ball a little bit more. Um, they ran, they 1092 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 1: ran yeah, they got that committee. Now that Pacheco kid, Yeah, 1093 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 1: from where's he from? Rutgers? I want to say, but 1094 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,520 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm like, you know what, have somebody 1095 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,360 Speaker 1: else beat me? Right? I mean you do it all 1096 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 1: night long? Yeah. I don't know what the Raiders were 1097 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,680 Speaker 1: thinking game plan wise here, but clearly Kelsey was not 1098 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,960 Speaker 1: enough of a priority. No, not at all. Four catchers 1099 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 1: for twenty five yards. I was joking with I was 1100 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 1: joking with Steve. He had almost as many points as 1101 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 1: he had yards, twenty four points in twenty five yards. 1102 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:45,440 Speaker 1: Butch Roll's career and one night, right, so it's yeah, 1103 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 1: I mean, look at that he's running around the end 1104 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 1: zone the game. How do you not have anybody on 1105 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 1: that guy? I don't understand that. I mean somebody helped 1106 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,880 Speaker 1: me there. Yeah, I don't know. The Raiders are wanting 1107 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:06,920 Speaker 1: free for a reason. Josh McDaniels, no defense, a defensive coordinator. Now, 1108 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,640 Speaker 1: I got to look that up because there's your answer. 1109 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 1: We don't know who that is, right, We hope we 1110 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 1: can look it up before he's fired. But Graham who 1111 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 1: Patrick Graham? I don't know him. He was with the 1112 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 1: Giants before that staff got bounced last year, and I 1113 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,080 Speaker 1: know that Brian Dabel actually tried to keep him really um, 1114 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,320 Speaker 1: but yeah, he went out to the Raiders because he 1115 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,480 Speaker 1: used to work for the Patriots as an assistant, which 1116 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,640 Speaker 1: is why McDaniels wanted him out there in Las veeks. 1117 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 1: Might might be thinking twice about that choice now, but yeah, 1118 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 1: I uh, I'm with you, Thuram. I do anything in 1119 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 1: my power to neutralize Kelsey And if Valdez, Scandling and 1120 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,840 Speaker 1: Smith Schuster are good enough to beat me, well then 1121 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,040 Speaker 1: my hat's off to you. But I'm I'm not letting 1122 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 1: the guy that's beating me before and beat me in 1123 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 1: overtime in the playoff game last year beat me now 1124 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 1: that I will have four catches for twenty four twenty 1125 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 1: five yards, but he ain't going touchdowns, not like that, 1126 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 1: not like that. Um, But what do you do? You 1127 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,400 Speaker 1: put Matt Milano on him. I mean obviously they've tried everybody, 1128 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 1: I mean over the years, over the years. Yeah, I mean, 1129 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 1: Michael had has been in that situation where he's covered 1130 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 1: him past. Yeah yeah, yeah, So who'll do They'll try 1131 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,680 Speaker 1: a ton of different things. They'll double him, they'll in 1132 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 1: and out him, they'll over the team he was cracking him. 1133 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 1: Crack him at the line with van But even if 1134 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 1: if you're gonna like it used to be at the 1135 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 1: red zone. And I brought this up to Browning um 1136 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 1: Romeo Cornell did this where Tony Gonzalez was a tight end, 1137 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 1: he'd have two guys just like a like he was 1138 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 1: a punt gunner. They just jump on him and grab him, 1139 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 1: push him back into the backfield, just hold him there. 1140 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 1: And that works fine until the guy takes a step 1141 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 1: off the line of scrims and goes in motion across 1142 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 1: the formulations like we do. So they'll just hide him. 1143 01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 1: So you can't really you can have that as a plan. 1144 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 1: But if they get, you know, an inkling that you're 1145 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 1: gonna do that, they just move the guy. The guy's 1146 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 1: never been he's coming off the line of scrimmage and 1147 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 1: he's never getting bump. Well that's by design, right, So 1148 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,240 Speaker 1: they put him in motion, they move him and all that. 1149 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,919 Speaker 1: You can still move him or whatever. You can still 1150 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 1: have somebody on the line of us crack him him. Yeah, yeah, 1151 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 1: it's not just like a free release. I don't care 1152 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,760 Speaker 1: if he's two yards off the line of scrimmage. If 1153 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm a defensive back. I'm gonna sit there until he 1154 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 1: comes to me right there on the line of scrimmage, 1155 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,160 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get a jam on him. Yeah, I mean, 1156 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 1: just to kind of disrupt the timing, right right, something, 1157 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,640 Speaker 1: you gotta do something. He's just letting him run. Just yeah, 1158 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 1: free releases love Leslie and Sean. That's the thing. It's 1159 01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,920 Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be because and I know 1160 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit of a prisoner of the moment. 1161 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 1: We've been talking about all this stuff that's going on 1162 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,360 Speaker 1: in the league with you know, how difficult it is 1163 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 1: to play defense. We were talking about it on the 1164 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,919 Speaker 1: Five Presidents tech Sloop last night, you know, guys saying 1165 01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,520 Speaker 1: he can't even tackle guys anymore, particularly in the pocket. 1166 01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 1: So I think this is gonna be one of those games. 1167 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,120 Speaker 1: Or you got to score with these guys, yeah, you know, yeah, 1168 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 1: like like the playoff game was last January. Yeah, high scoring. 1169 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,840 Speaker 1: Both both teams are brought to score at thirty five. Yeah, 1170 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,920 Speaker 1: and it's the first, like first one of fifty wins. 1171 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 1: I will say this, the Chiefs defense has not done 1172 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,440 Speaker 1: a good job of stopping anybody this year. The Bills. 1173 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,760 Speaker 1: The Bills are tied for first and points allowed with 1174 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 1: San Francisco. The Bills are holding people off the board. Yeah. 1175 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 1: The Chiefs are twenty third and points allowed. Yeah, but 1176 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,600 Speaker 1: they're not at home. They're at home. They're coming, they're 1177 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,400 Speaker 1: flying to the Raiders. Yeah. Well you know what, I 1178 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,280 Speaker 1: take our pass rush over this. Yeah. Huge difference. Yeah, 1179 01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 1: now difference and the Raiders right now that pass rush, 1180 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,920 Speaker 1: well you had to get rid of the ball. Yeah. 1181 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,120 Speaker 1: The Raiders had some success last night, at least early 1182 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 1: early on, and they tightened it up. They got a 1183 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,640 Speaker 1: little better. So we'll see if the Bills can have 1184 01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 1: more consistent success throughout the game. But you know what happens. 1185 01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,640 Speaker 1: I mean, things get better as they roll on. And 1186 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,480 Speaker 1: this fourth and one over the top to Davante Adams 1187 01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,200 Speaker 1: was was a brilliant play call. I thought it was great. 1188 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,160 Speaker 1: It shows a lot of confidence in two really good players. 1189 01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:13,840 Speaker 1: But that's it, man, it stopped. It stopped right. You 1190 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,880 Speaker 1: can't can anybody stop us right now? And I'm looking 1191 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,920 Speaker 1: at it, and you know what Gabe Davis reminded me 1192 01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:24,400 Speaker 1: of really and people might say, oh you whatever, Like 1193 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:33,439 Speaker 1: he's not fast, He's like Jerry Rice, Jerry Rice, right, 1194 01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,920 Speaker 1: and Gabe is like, I mean, you see him run 1195 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 1: is almost like he's hurting sometime to run. He gets down, 1196 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,160 Speaker 1: he pulls a separation away from guys. So the most 1197 01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:49,120 Speaker 1: impressive thing. I talked to Gabe after the game in 1198 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,720 Speaker 1: the locker room and I was asking him about the 1199 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 1: first touchdown. He knew before the snap that the safety 1200 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,040 Speaker 1: was not lined up in a way that was and 1201 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,720 Speaker 1: to allow him to help the corner that was lined 1202 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 1: up against him. Said the leverage was bad from the 1203 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,880 Speaker 1: start of the place, so he knew, I just give 1204 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,120 Speaker 1: the corner a step out and then get inside of 1205 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 1: him that safety he was too high, he wasn't deep enough, 1206 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,600 Speaker 1: and he couldn't get there in time. Bad angle, and 1207 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:21,040 Speaker 1: now he's chasing. And then once Levi fell down, was over. 1208 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 1: So he knew from he knew before the snap, if 1209 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,919 Speaker 1: we can hold up and protect I got this guy. Hey, 1210 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. And he had him. And we're 1211 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:36,280 Speaker 1: talking about Josh and Gabe and Digs. The offensive line 1212 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 1: been pretty good. Yeah, they have been pretty good. Held 1213 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:43,200 Speaker 1: up don't really get talked about enough. But I mean, 1214 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,440 Speaker 1: in order to throw passes like this, this passing game, 1215 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,520 Speaker 1: you gotta have that offense on the two yard line, 1216 01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,880 Speaker 1: and on the two yard line exactly. Now. I know 1217 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,880 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is not the Pittsburgh up oh, I mean past 1218 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,080 Speaker 1: couple of years with t J. Watt or whatever, but 1219 01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:01,880 Speaker 1: still two yard line. That's confidence right there. That's confidence 1220 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,720 Speaker 1: right there. And uh so, hey, hey kid right there. Man, 1221 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 1: I love him, but it's just it's just like the 1222 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,160 Speaker 1: total thetel you know, I'm thinking one day with this 1223 01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,440 Speaker 1: Rold game, Hey Josh, can I drive you to the airport? 1224 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:20,559 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just he's and he's so good for Buffalo. Oh, 1225 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,840 Speaker 1: he's so good for Buffalo, perfect fit. I mean just 1226 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean I'm gonna I'm so glad we got him. Yeah, 1227 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,720 Speaker 1: he's Hey, he's a rock He's a rock star and 1228 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 1: deserves it. And he keeps playing as good or he's 1229 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,760 Speaker 1: getting a little better. Every's something new all the time 1230 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:40,679 Speaker 1: he's doing. It's been great. This game in Kansas City, well, 1231 01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,920 Speaker 1: he he really burst onto the scene with the game, 1232 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,960 Speaker 1: the playoff game this last January. I mean that was 1233 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,760 Speaker 1: when it was like, oh these guys really all I 1234 01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,519 Speaker 1: mean they were clicking. Plus the game the week before 1235 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,960 Speaker 1: against New England when you couldn't get him off the field, 1236 01:08:55,120 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 1: couldn't make him punk Well yeah, yeah, it's really they 1237 01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:06,040 Speaker 1: were clicking so well then that it raised the expectations 1238 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:10,880 Speaker 1: almost beyond, you know, beyond accomplishing fulfilling them, you know. 1239 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,599 Speaker 1: But I think in this game, there's no question this 1240 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:19,080 Speaker 1: is gonna be their toughest game yet, even even with 1241 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,519 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, even with the Baltimore Ravens. I think this 1242 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 1: because this is a team. When they showed it again 1243 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 1: last night, they were down seventeen, just like the Bills 1244 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,680 Speaker 1: were in Baltimore. They fought back before halftime it was 1245 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,960 Speaker 1: twenty to ten, just like the Bills were in Baltimore, 1246 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:35,760 Speaker 1: and they end up winning a one point game like 1247 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,880 Speaker 1: the Bills you know, nearly did in Baltimore as a 1248 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:43,160 Speaker 1: couple of point games. So these two teams I think 1249 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,839 Speaker 1: are built a lot alike. I think the Bills defense 1250 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 1: is better, no question about it. But being on the 1251 01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:54,960 Speaker 1: road is gonna make it tough. Yeah. I told Steve 1252 01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,240 Speaker 1: before we came in here to do the show. If 1253 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,599 Speaker 1: the Bills defense and get the Chiefs to punt three 1254 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:07,240 Speaker 1: times and they don't turn the ball every quarter, if 1255 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,759 Speaker 1: they get him to punt three times and the Bills 1256 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 1: don't turn it over, which has been a problem because 1257 01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,280 Speaker 1: they leave the league in turnovers and they've turned it 1258 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,200 Speaker 1: over more than they've punted. They have to just yea, 1259 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,400 Speaker 1: there's eighty, but that's not formula. They get the Chiefs 1260 01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:24,120 Speaker 1: to punt three times, right, and the Bills don't turn 1261 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 1: it over. I think that's all they need to win 1262 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, how about that? Yeah that's fine, Yeah, 1263 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,040 Speaker 1: that's nothing they can can I have a couple of 1264 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:37,360 Speaker 1: turnover too, well, I want it. I will put it on. 1265 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,360 Speaker 1: I want it all exactly. We need to leave that 1266 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,880 Speaker 1: stadium going into the bye week being like, I guess 1267 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,280 Speaker 1: this is a team to beat right here? Yeah you 1268 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,000 Speaker 1: I say this though, usually when you go in like 1269 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,000 Speaker 1: you go plus two on a team turnovers, you get 1270 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 1: two fumble recoveries or a fumble recovery and a pick 1271 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,000 Speaker 1: or two picks, and they and more than they get. 1272 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,320 Speaker 1: Usually that's a backbread this for the Chiefs, it's almost 1273 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:05,680 Speaker 1: gotta be like plus four, right, Well, yeah, unless you're 1274 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,479 Speaker 1: getting him to punt, which sometimes it's harder than getting 1275 01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,400 Speaker 1: a turnover. All they had, they had a three. They 1276 01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,240 Speaker 1: started the game last night against the Raiders three and 1277 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:13,960 Speaker 1: out and another like a couple of three and outs 1278 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,760 Speaker 1: out of the first three or four possessions. But I 1279 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:18,720 Speaker 1: was surprised. You got to look at like Andy Reid 1280 01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 1: too all where they're at in that situation. He might 1281 01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,439 Speaker 1: not punt because he might be thinking, I gotta score. Yeah, right, yeah, 1282 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,280 Speaker 1: I gotta score. And that's Andy Reid, that's kind of 1283 01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:30,639 Speaker 1: how he goes about things. And so yeah, he's wanted them. Yeah, 1284 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,639 Speaker 1: I ain't putting they're very Yeah, they're really good too, 1285 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,200 Speaker 1: because you can tell. And I don't I don't want to. 1286 01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,640 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about Josh McDaniels or how the 1287 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,759 Speaker 1: Raiders are doing, or how their staff is put together 1288 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,560 Speaker 1: anything like that. But I know this Andy Reid and 1289 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,439 Speaker 1: that staff there with Eric b Enemy and Spagnola, and 1290 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,760 Speaker 1: they got some guys in there that you could tell. 1291 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:52,120 Speaker 1: As that game evolved, the Chiefs were revolving within their 1292 01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,519 Speaker 1: game plan. They were changing things up because they started 1293 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,720 Speaker 1: out slow offensively and their defense was struggling. But as 1294 01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:00,600 Speaker 1: the game wore on, they got a handle on it 1295 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,720 Speaker 1: and they got they adjusted. Well, that's what the Bills 1296 01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,640 Speaker 1: have done really well as well you talk about and 1297 01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,160 Speaker 1: they've shut everybody out in the second half defensive leaks. 1298 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:12,080 Speaker 1: You know, the Dolphins scored one fourth quarter touchdown and 1299 01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 1: that's it for the entire year. Um the Bills are 1300 01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:17,640 Speaker 1: the same. So I think this is really going to 1301 01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,360 Speaker 1: be a battle of the coaching staff to make sure 1302 01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,320 Speaker 1: they stay one step ahead and kind of you know, 1303 01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,320 Speaker 1: try and styme me one or the other of them 1304 01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,000 Speaker 1: to give yourself an edge. I think it's really crucial. 1305 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,200 Speaker 1: And I think it's you got to match Read and 1306 01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,519 Speaker 1: Spagnolo and b Enemy and all those guys on that 1307 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,360 Speaker 1: side of the field. Because they did a really nice job. 1308 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:35,840 Speaker 1: That was one of the things that gave them they 1309 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 1: win last night against the Raiders because the Raiders were 1310 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,040 Speaker 1: thumping them early on and they got to handle what 1311 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,120 Speaker 1: the Raiders. The Raiders were, they got to handle on 1312 01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,120 Speaker 1: what the Raiders were doing, both offense and defense. That 1313 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, but the rpo game worked pretty good 1314 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,400 Speaker 1: for the run game this past week. I mean they 1315 01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:54,280 Speaker 1: had some they had some bounces to the outside that 1316 01:12:54,360 --> 01:13:00,679 Speaker 1: looked pretty good. Pittsburgh, that's true. It's not your ads, Pittsburgh. 1317 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,280 Speaker 1: Now everything has changed. Now you might not be able 1318 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,559 Speaker 1: to hear you got maybe yeah, you gotta do hand 1319 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,760 Speaker 1: signals now for the clap is gonna be so loud, 1320 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,040 Speaker 1: so everything is just totally thrown off. Let me bounce 1321 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,840 Speaker 1: this off your because we're asking our listeners this today. 1322 01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,200 Speaker 1: Give me a Bill's Depth player these past few weeks 1323 01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,240 Speaker 1: that has stepped in and impressed you the most. You 1324 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,160 Speaker 1: have a guy in mind, like one of these guys 1325 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,479 Speaker 1: a little further down on the roster that's kind of 1326 01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,800 Speaker 1: stepped out. You're like, Wow, our choice gave us a 1327 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,559 Speaker 1: lot more than I anticipate. Our choices were shakier. DeMar Hamlin, 1328 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,360 Speaker 1: Quintin Morris, I'm going I'm going with Hamlin. Yeah, I 1329 01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,840 Speaker 1: kind of like I this is the second year, right, yeah, 1330 01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:43,160 Speaker 1: second year. I mean I like him. He's got good 1331 01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,800 Speaker 1: he got great range, and it looks like he's out there, 1332 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,719 Speaker 1: you know exactly what he's doing. A little pop behind. 1333 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,200 Speaker 1: Who did he hit last week? Pick it on a slide? 1334 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:57,519 Speaker 1: So yeah, right, But I thought it was I thought 1335 01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,640 Speaker 1: it was a perfect timing close. It was cool, But 1336 01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:02,360 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, I thought it should have been 1337 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,160 Speaker 1: a penalty. Oh, come on, they've just given everything to 1338 01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,920 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, now, yes they did, and listen, I thought 1339 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:10,920 Speaker 1: the guy was gonna get called. I was looking for No. 1340 01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm glad he didn't, obviously, but I thought it's gonna 1341 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,280 Speaker 1: get caught. I disn't had a nice game last week 1342 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,680 Speaker 1: in for Edmonds. Um, yep, so I thought he did 1343 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,280 Speaker 1: really well and a lot of guys tarn been just 1344 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 1: awesome for john almost taking him for granted. Oh man, Yes, 1345 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:32,160 Speaker 1: he has been solid for the last three years. Yes, 1346 01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:36,479 Speaker 1: and continues to make plays. It's hard to find a 1347 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,760 Speaker 1: nickel corner. He's playing better than Taron Johnson. I can't 1348 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,439 Speaker 1: even think of another one. He's He's just a good one. 1349 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,600 Speaker 1: Kenny Moore Yeah, um, but there aren't many. And I 1350 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,760 Speaker 1: like the way Milano's played too. Oh he's I think 1351 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,360 Speaker 1: he's looking at I'm talking he's looking at probably like 1352 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,640 Speaker 1: oh pro That's what I was saying. He's playing it. 1353 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,719 Speaker 1: He hasn't made a Pro Bowl. He is, he hasn't 1354 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,840 Speaker 1: made a Pro Bowl yet year that I mean, he's 1355 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,280 Speaker 1: everywhere and obviously I mean he looks a little bit bigger, 1356 01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:08,000 Speaker 1: but he is all over the field. And Tremaine did 1357 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,519 Speaker 1: against Lamar in the open field in weeks at open Field. Yeah, 1358 01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:16,519 Speaker 1: they were awesome running him down open field, open field 1359 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:20,280 Speaker 1: with Lamar like nobody's signing nobody's doing that. No, not 1360 01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,599 Speaker 1: at all. So yeah, yeah, Milano's playing at an elite 1361 01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,200 Speaker 1: linebacker level right now. He really is. It's he's playing 1362 01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,360 Speaker 1: elite And and Tremaine was playing that way before he 1363 01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,639 Speaker 1: you know, pulled his hand. He was playing extremely well 1364 01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,400 Speaker 1: as too. And I think, and I keep getting back 1365 01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,080 Speaker 1: to it at show after show, it comes up at 1366 01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:37,960 Speaker 1: some point where I say, you know, a lot of 1367 01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,960 Speaker 1: the success they're having has become has come from how 1368 01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:47,479 Speaker 1: big a step forward their front four have made. Von eight, Yeah, 1369 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,719 Speaker 1: you know, Von de Quan, Jones, Tim Settled At, Oliver, 1370 01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,920 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, the whole crew in there this week. Don't 1371 01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,680 Speaker 1: know if you're gonna have Jordan Phillis, probably won't have 1372 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,400 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips. I don't know. We haven't heard anything. But 1373 01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,240 Speaker 1: they just signed Brandon Bryant back to the roster today, 1374 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 1: so he's back in the fold. And yeah, so you'll 1375 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:08,439 Speaker 1: do a lot worse than I think. A lot of 1376 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,400 Speaker 1: that I think Milano and Edmunds stepped forward has been 1377 01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:16,200 Speaker 1: contributed to by the how much better they're playing up front. Absolutely, 1378 01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,479 Speaker 1: that front, those front guys up there the eight of them, 1379 01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,439 Speaker 1: they've been unbelievable. Yea, yeah, they've been and look it's 1380 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,040 Speaker 1: obviously it's a passing the league. But they've done well 1381 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,439 Speaker 1: against the round two, against the one, and probably will 1382 01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:33,040 Speaker 1: continue because Kansas City got some nice running backs. Yeah, 1383 01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:37,160 Speaker 1: they're going full blown committee now. Yeah, but Jaco Edwards, 1384 01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,120 Speaker 1: Hilaire and then McKinnon. I don't know what it is 1385 01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:41,599 Speaker 1: about McKinnon. That guy's like thirty years old. He's still 1386 01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,360 Speaker 1: has thirty years old. I think he's almost thirty or 1387 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,080 Speaker 1: he'll turn thirty this year. And it looked like he 1388 01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:50,719 Speaker 1: was still run like a juice. Right, we talked about 1389 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 1: him last year. I think, yeah, where is his juice 1390 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,920 Speaker 1: coming from? Right? He's still got it though, so more 1391 01:16:55,960 --> 01:17:00,360 Speaker 1: power to him. I M therm. Do you think how 1392 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,040 Speaker 1: many points do you think the Bills have to score 1393 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,519 Speaker 1: to kind of be in the save zone to win 1394 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:09,080 Speaker 1: this safe? Thirty five and thirty five and okay, yeah, yeah, 1395 01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:10,679 Speaker 1: all right, Well at least they've done that a couple 1396 01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 1: of times. That a couple of times, yeah, yeah, thirty yeah, thirty. 1397 01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean you got to give the Bills defense a 1398 01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:20,400 Speaker 1: little boost, I mean, because the Raiders help them to 1399 01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,880 Speaker 1: twenty nine. You gotta think the Bills might be able 1400 01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:25,479 Speaker 1: to hold them a mid twenties at least, you know, 1401 01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,400 Speaker 1: field goal or two field goals less than that. Um 1402 01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:33,880 Speaker 1: so yeah, but thirty five would make you feel make 1403 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:38,320 Speaker 1: you feel real nice. Yeah, all right, Thurm, thanks as 1404 01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,560 Speaker 1: always for stopping in to say. We'll catch up with 1405 01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,840 Speaker 1: you next week. Hopefully we're talking about another Bill's victory. 1406 01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,559 Speaker 1: Absolutely going into the bye week. That would be lovely. 1407 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,880 Speaker 1: We'll all we'll all vote for that. Yeah, unanimously appreciate it. 1408 01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,400 Speaker 1: Thank you. Bill's Hall of Famer Thurm and Thomas here 1409 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,280 Speaker 1: every Tuesday, joining us. We'll take a break, be back 1410 01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:57,920 Speaker 1: with more here on one Bill's Live, presented by a 1411 01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:13,800 Speaker 1: Collid of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. The Buffalo Bills 1412 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,240 Speaker 1: and add Pro Sports are teaming up to award Varsity 1413 01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,519 Speaker 1: had football coaches with the Coach of the Week Award 1414 01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,080 Speaker 1: Week five winners in the Buffalo Region Section six. It's 1415 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,639 Speaker 1: Bennett head coach Steve McDuffie as he led his Tigers 1416 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:27,960 Speaker 1: to a twenty to seven win over Lancaster. Bennett entered 1417 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:29,760 Speaker 1: the game ranked number two in Western New York, while 1418 01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:33,160 Speaker 1: Lancaster was ranked number one in Section five. Rochester Region 1419 01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:37,160 Speaker 1: Coach of the Week is Canisteo Greenwood coach Steve Donlin. 1420 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,360 Speaker 1: His eight man team won thirty six to six over 1421 01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:43,240 Speaker 1: bolievar Richburg to remain undefeated. Both teams entered the game 1422 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,120 Speaker 1: five and oh. Each Coach of the week winner will 1423 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,519 Speaker 1: receive a one thousand dollars grant from the Buffalo Bills 1424 01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:52,960 Speaker 1: and add Pro Sports. We're going to get some more 1425 01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,679 Speaker 1: thoughts from you on which Bill's depth player has impressed 1426 01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:00,639 Speaker 1: you the most and why got a guy in Arizona? Patiently, 1427 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,680 Speaker 1: it's John, John, what do you offer us your only 1428 01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,800 Speaker 1: one Bills Live? Yeah, thank you for taking my call. 1429 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:10,960 Speaker 1: Three things real quick. My first one is Shaquille. I thought, 1430 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,559 Speaker 1: for a rookie, he just did a splendid job as routes, 1431 01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,760 Speaker 1: his ball handling. I thought he did a great job. 1432 01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 1: So number one Shaquille. Number two and this is Steve. 1433 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:25,439 Speaker 1: I know sometimes you get your nose bent on people 1434 01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:29,000 Speaker 1: calling about running backs and everything else. Well, I don't 1435 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,560 Speaker 1: think we need another running back. I think and I 1436 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:35,559 Speaker 1: would like to see on short, fourth pound plays at 1437 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:39,120 Speaker 1: the goal line. If the Bills had this three hundred 1438 01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,920 Speaker 1: pound fullback with good hands instead of using Josh the 1439 01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,960 Speaker 1: crubb and smash the line. Use this allah green Bay 1440 01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:51,400 Speaker 1: or not green Bay was Chicago bears the fridge. If 1441 01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,919 Speaker 1: there's something wrong with using a three hundred pound fullback 1442 01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:59,680 Speaker 1: in the backfield and short goal line, four down shoreline, 1443 01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:03,040 Speaker 1: page place, and and and and again, that's I have 1444 01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,120 Speaker 1: no idea why we don't do it. If you're gonna, 1445 01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're gonna tell me. And my third one 1446 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:11,320 Speaker 1: is I'm eighty five. I've been watching football for a 1447 01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:15,040 Speaker 1: long long time and I'm not trying to suck up Steve, 1448 01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:18,400 Speaker 1: but you are the best I've seen in that spot 1449 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:22,519 Speaker 1: since I had been watching football. Now, the reason you're 1450 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,120 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame, I don't have a clue. 1451 01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:27,800 Speaker 1: But all I know is these guys that should get 1452 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,320 Speaker 1: their head out of there, you know where, and put 1453 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,240 Speaker 1: you in the Hall of Fame, and let's get it 1454 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:36,120 Speaker 1: done because that's where you belong, you know, And let's 1455 01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:39,439 Speaker 1: cut the bat. That's what it is. And so again 1456 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:44,200 Speaker 1: you're here. My question is is there something wrong with 1457 01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,080 Speaker 1: putting that three hundred pound guy back there to crash 1458 01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,880 Speaker 1: the line on short you know, rather than that shuttle 1459 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,439 Speaker 1: play that that ended up as a fumble on the 1460 01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,000 Speaker 1: goal line. You know, I almost came came out of 1461 01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:56,680 Speaker 1: my shoes when I got when I said, see, so 1462 01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,920 Speaker 1: can we plow the line? Get a big guy in there. 1463 01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:03,439 Speaker 1: I remember this, so I'll get off the line. Okay, guys, 1464 01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,320 Speaker 1: help me out and then I'll be interested to hearing 1465 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,559 Speaker 1: what you have to say. Thank you appreciate it. Yeah, 1466 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:12,240 Speaker 1: here's the thing, and you're right, Um Steven is a 1467 01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:16,440 Speaker 1: big proponent of this. I'm all about it. John from Arizona. 1468 01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,479 Speaker 1: The Baltimore Ravens have a guy named Patrick I think 1469 01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:26,920 Speaker 1: it's Ricard. He's three hundred and five pounds and they 1470 01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,320 Speaker 1: use him as a fullback. Now, he was a defensive 1471 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,400 Speaker 1: lineman slash fullback. He started his defensive line. He's got speed, 1472 01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,639 Speaker 1: athletic him, good hands, very nimble. They put him back 1473 01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,880 Speaker 1: there and move him in the offensive backfield, use him 1474 01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,439 Speaker 1: his motions and all that. They'll hand it to him 1475 01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:42,320 Speaker 1: on short yardage as well. I totally agree with you. 1476 01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:46,679 Speaker 1: There's always a place for a big, big bodied running 1477 01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:50,400 Speaker 1: back who can have sure hands, ball security, and who 1478 01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,280 Speaker 1: you can dive into the line or even on a 1479 01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,880 Speaker 1: quarterback sneak line up at fullback and then push the 1480 01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,800 Speaker 1: quarterback over the line. That kind of stuff. Yeah, Steve, 1481 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,759 Speaker 1: as a candidate on the Bill's roster, Justin Zimmer should 1482 01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:07,360 Speaker 1: be doing that for the Buffalo Bills today. But I digress. 1483 01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:11,720 Speaker 1: So I'm all about that. You're right, and you know 1484 01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:16,160 Speaker 1: you're that. I'm all about that. You're right. I agree 1485 01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,320 Speaker 1: with you totally. That's where the league. I think there 1486 01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,040 Speaker 1: should be a guy like that on your squad. There 1487 01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,120 Speaker 1: should be a place for that. And I'll say this too, 1488 01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm really flabbergasted that teams don't ask players from either 1489 01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:35,880 Speaker 1: side of the ball to help out on the other side. 1490 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,280 Speaker 1: In certain situation situational football like short yardage goal line, 1491 01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,160 Speaker 1: you can't have Justin Zimmer come in say hey, I'm 1492 01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,439 Speaker 1: I'm eligible. I got a ninety three, number one or 1493 01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,800 Speaker 1: ninety two or whatever is No. Sixty two? All right, 1494 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:51,160 Speaker 1: sixty one, I'm I'm eligible and line him up in 1495 01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:56,040 Speaker 1: the backfield. He's got great speed and nimbleness, and it 1496 01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,040 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be you know, Zimmer could be anybody. Now, 1497 01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:03,360 Speaker 1: all granted, three hundred pounders who can runs and and 1498 01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,080 Speaker 1: all that, they don't just it's like you don't just 1499 01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:09,479 Speaker 1: go to the bus stop and grab one. But when 1500 01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:13,240 Speaker 1: you got one, I think you got to maximize those skills. 1501 01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,000 Speaker 1: And I think Justin Zimmer on the Bills that roster 1502 01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,400 Speaker 1: would be a perfect example of that. Like we said, 1503 01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:23,040 Speaker 1: Ricard is a guy on Baltimore's roster that they do 1504 01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:27,760 Speaker 1: do that with and they and he passes. So I'm 1505 01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,880 Speaker 1: with you, Um, I think you got to maximize those 1506 01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 1: assets when you've got them. They don't come along very often. 1507 01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm not saying go out and draft one in the 1508 01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,960 Speaker 1: first round or anything. Don't waste you know, your salary 1509 01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:43,559 Speaker 1: cap on guys like that, but I'm selling bigger, heavier, 1510 01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:49,080 Speaker 1: faster guys are better in a lot of instances, particularly 1511 01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:52,360 Speaker 1: in what you're talking about, gold line, short yardage, fourth 1512 01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:56,200 Speaker 1: down play. So I agree totally. You have a you 1513 01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,519 Speaker 1: have an advocate in Steve Tasker on that subject. Which 1514 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,760 Speaker 1: Bills player has impressed you the most. Let's go to 1515 01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,960 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, brought to you, as always by Corrigan 1516 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,960 Speaker 1: Moving Systems, the official equipment moving provider of the Buffalo 1517 01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:14,439 Speaker 1: Bills and Spill Fiasco leading us off today, and spill 1518 01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:18,679 Speaker 1: Fiasco says, I'm going with Morris despite Hamlin being most noticeable. 1519 01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,920 Speaker 1: It's been clear listening to Leslie the last two years 1520 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,519 Speaker 1: that both Johnson and Hamlin are guys he thinks highly 1521 01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,760 Speaker 1: of and that they each make the most of their time. 1522 01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:32,799 Speaker 1: He just looks better than expected. Morris took advantage of O. J. Howard, 1523 01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:37,960 Speaker 1: So a vote for Quintin Morris there, Steve, Yeah, I 1524 01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,400 Speaker 1: had some athletic receptions on Sunday. He outside of his 1525 01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,840 Speaker 1: body frame. He made one catch up with balls already 1526 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,160 Speaker 1: buy him and he got it on a big third down, 1527 01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,839 Speaker 1: was huge catch. He made one out to the sidelines 1528 01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:51,719 Speaker 1: that turned into a big first down on a sixteen 1529 01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,840 Speaker 1: yard great gain. So yeah, he's I think he's really 1530 01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:59,840 Speaker 1: good and getting better. And yeah, it's impressive that he 1531 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:05,120 Speaker 1: he's the guy that you know made OJ Howard expendable. 1532 01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:09,439 Speaker 1: And there's the catch right there. So I'm yes, that's 1533 01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,679 Speaker 1: a good guess. That's a good pick. I like Quentin 1534 01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:16,639 Speaker 1: Morris a lot, and I think we're gonna see bigger 1535 01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,000 Speaker 1: things from him in the future. Yeah, got a high ceiling, 1536 01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,000 Speaker 1: Steve says, currently, I would say it's Hamlin due to 1537 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,960 Speaker 1: having more opportunities thus far. In the end, I believe 1538 01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,360 Speaker 1: it will be shakier though. He just has so much 1539 01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,040 Speaker 1: poise and as far beyond his years as mature NFL player, 1540 01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,120 Speaker 1: hopefully he will have the opportunity to continue to shine. 1541 01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:38,559 Speaker 1: Something tells me he will clover in Texas. Says Khalil Shaker, 1542 01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:43,479 Speaker 1: that speed after the catch is eye popping. So yeah, 1543 01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,719 Speaker 1: I mean we've said it here on the show. There's 1544 01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:51,959 Speaker 1: there's just a savvyness to his route running, feel for coverage, leverage, 1545 01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:55,759 Speaker 1: where to go after he makes the catch too. Nothing 1546 01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:59,880 Speaker 1: seems to knock him off kilter. He's just a very center, 1547 01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, down to earth kid that he's cool as 1548 01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:09,280 Speaker 1: a cucumber man. He's a little mentally mature like Gabe 1549 01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,639 Speaker 1: Davis was when he came in. Yeah, exactly. Nothing doesn't 1550 01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,519 Speaker 1: seem too big for him. They seem calm, They catch 1551 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:16,640 Speaker 1: the football, made a couple of really good catches. Now 1552 01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,960 Speaker 1: Shakiir was killing himself because he dropped one as well. 1553 01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:23,559 Speaker 1: But and we noticed this too last week. Gabe Davis 1554 01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,880 Speaker 1: was dropping him in Baltimore, had a couple of like 1555 01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,800 Speaker 1: three drops in Baltimore. Paul went through his hands and 1556 01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:33,840 Speaker 1: it's really really uncharacteristic. And I thought I made the 1557 01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:35,280 Speaker 1: point on the show that I thought it was because 1558 01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:38,120 Speaker 1: he wasn't feeling well physically. He's having trouble concentrating, you 1559 01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I'll probably stand by that 1560 01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:44,200 Speaker 1: until I hear differently. But now that he's back on, 1561 01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,960 Speaker 1: Gabe Davis catching the ball and playing extremely well, and 1562 01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,360 Speaker 1: Shakiir is that same kind of guy. Just first things first, 1563 01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:52,040 Speaker 1: you get open, then you catch it, and then you 1564 01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:55,439 Speaker 1: do what you can do. Those two guys, Davis and 1565 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,000 Speaker 1: Shakiir seemed to have that mentality. They do the basic 1566 01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,280 Speaker 1: things really well. They get open, when the balls throwne 1567 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,559 Speaker 1: to him, they catch it, even the tough catches break 1568 01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,760 Speaker 1: time for us. Here a couple of final thoughts on 1569 01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,280 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet coming your way next in terms of 1570 01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:12,439 Speaker 1: which Bill's Depth player has impressed you the most. We're 1571 01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,439 Speaker 1: back in a second here on one Bill's Live presented 1572 01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:28,840 Speaker 1: by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Some final thoughts 1573 01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,320 Speaker 1: here on the tweet sheet for Bill's Depth player that 1574 01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,240 Speaker 1: has impressed you the most so far this season. Jack says, 1575 01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,679 Speaker 1: excited by all these guys, but Hamlin has really looked 1576 01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,479 Speaker 1: great playing center field in the back of the d 1577 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,559 Speaker 1: I miss Micah Hyde. But Hamlin's play so far has 1578 01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:46,120 Speaker 1: really lessened the blow. The d is playing very well 1579 01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,439 Speaker 1: and he's looked every bit the part back there, John 1580 01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,439 Speaker 1: says Benford would have been my vote, but Shakier has 1581 01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:57,439 Speaker 1: made some nifty plays recently. And then TJ. Mclough, I 1582 01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:01,080 Speaker 1: hope I'm pronouncing that. T mclough open, I'm pronouncing that right. 1583 01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,840 Speaker 1: Shakier has looked smooth as silk. His hands run after 1584 01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:08,280 Speaker 1: catch and route running vaguely remind me of Stevie or 1585 01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,679 Speaker 1: hate to say it, but even shades of Andre. Obviously 1586 01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:12,560 Speaker 1: those are big comps to compare them too, so we 1587 01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:18,799 Speaker 1: will see. It's always easy for people to get enamored 1588 01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:24,080 Speaker 1: by nifty receivers. Well, yeah, I mean, and a lot 1589 01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:27,800 Speaker 1: of times Hamlin isn't even in the television camera shot, 1590 01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's hard for Bill's fans 1591 01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,200 Speaker 1: watching at home to see Hamlin operate unless you're at 1592 01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,080 Speaker 1: the stadium and you're watching him in coverage and the 1593 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,240 Speaker 1: ground he's covering and all that. The receivers they see 1594 01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:42,000 Speaker 1: more often because they're you know, where the ball is. Yeah, 1595 01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,400 Speaker 1: I'll say this though, Shakier really did a nice job. Yes, 1596 01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:45,920 Speaker 1: that catch he made down the middle of when we 1597 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,920 Speaker 1: just saw was a great fantastic Josh threw it in there. 1598 01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,479 Speaker 1: Josh made a heck of a throw into three different 1599 01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:56,640 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's receivers and Shakier came down with it. It was 1600 01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:01,400 Speaker 1: It's a really good play. We'll see though. They need 1601 01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,240 Speaker 1: these guys to play well because you know, Crowder's out. 1602 01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:09,000 Speaker 1: Mackenzie no guarantees he's coming back really quickly. They need 1603 01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:10,800 Speaker 1: to have all their guns blazing. They have guys who 1604 01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:12,559 Speaker 1: can they can really count on. We'll see if Dawson 1605 01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,679 Speaker 1: Knox can get back in the lineup. Although Quentin Morris 1606 01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:17,840 Speaker 1: played extremely well this last game. Yeah, there's a lot 1607 01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:27,000 Speaker 1: going on, but yeah, Shakier, Morris, all the guys, Elam Hamlin, 1608 01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,840 Speaker 1: it's been impressive. The depth. Yeah, Jaquan Johnson too. I mean, 1609 01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,639 Speaker 1: it's hard to believe a guy's a fourth year player already. 1610 01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,080 Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow at one when we've got NFL Networks. 1611 01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:39,760 Speaker 1: Brian Balding are joining us. You know him from bald 1612 01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,479 Speaker 1: these breakdowns. We'll see you tomorrow at one pm.