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Speaker 2: Gil. I hate to break it to you.
Speaker 3: I think there's only one of two games left, but
Speaker 3: Nicola Yoki sowed up the MVP to not the Nuggets
Speaker 3: beat the Templewoards one sixteen to one.
Speaker 2: On seven.
Speaker 3: Nicola Yogic forty one points, eleven rebounds, seven or six
Speaker 3: three steals on sixteen of twenty shooting, and he did
Speaker 3: it against the guy many Believa will win the Defensive
Speaker 3: Player of the Year. He made mince meat out of it.
Speaker 3: If I'm Rudy Gobert, I'm sick because every time he.
Speaker 1: Goes up against nicolea yogic Gil, he cooking for forty.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, the thing about that is.
Speaker 1: Showing how Rudy plays him, which is he's not guarding
Speaker 1: him as a man. He's a secondary defender, which means
Speaker 1: these defensive wards you're getting, you're not getting it stopping
Speaker 1: the guy. That's a problem, right, yo, kid, Just who
Speaker 1: are you gonna get? Anderson for most of the part
Speaker 1: nas red and then Rudy sitting in the back trying
Speaker 1: to block the shot and alter the shot. You can
Speaker 1: say you're a great defensive player of the year and
Speaker 1: you can't even actually guard the best player, like yeah.
Speaker 2: He had forty because you want.
Speaker 1: To sit back there protecting the rim instead of blocking
Speaker 1: and guarding the guy that.
Speaker 2: Is the threat.
Speaker 3: I think they started out probably with you know, you know,
Speaker 3: you try to give him a different look. Any great
Speaker 3: score or guys, you try to give him a different look.
Speaker 3: You don't want to give him a steady diet of anything.
Speaker 3: They are very few guys that were at that elite level.
Speaker 3: You know, back in the day, Rodman would take the
Speaker 3: best player and he would guard him the entire game.
Speaker 3: Or you had Jordan would do it for some for
Speaker 3: stretches of time. Lebron could do it, Kobe could do it,
Speaker 3: Kawhi but for the most but you know back then,
Speaker 3: David Robinson, m keem olaija waa. They wasn't no switching off.
Speaker 3: It wasn't or to Storp. You take David Roberts for this. No,
Speaker 3: a team had him and he had to neutralize him.
Speaker 3: Plus he needed to go give you his twenty his
Speaker 3: customary twenty five to thirty.
Speaker 2: Also.
Speaker 3: But this is why I believe when the Yama Wimby
Speaker 3: should win Defensive Player of the Year, because this defensive
Speaker 3: player of the year, who's the best defensive player, not
Speaker 3: who's on the best defensive team.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: Because let me ask you this, if I took when
Speaker 3: if I took ro Gobert off that team and I
Speaker 3: put in Winby, would they be better or worse? And
Speaker 3: if I put Gobert on the Spurs, would they improve? No,
Speaker 3: Wimby is a better defender than Rudy Gobert because you
Speaker 3: know how I know they had a three on one
Speaker 3: and ain't nobody want to lay it up?
Speaker 2: You take it now? You go ahead, Hey, as a
Speaker 2: matter of fact, let's kick it out to the three.
Speaker 3: And then he wouldn't even take the three because he
Speaker 3: saw a Womby headed out that way. So for me, Gil,
Speaker 3: I think Wemby should be when the Fenstive Player of
Speaker 3: the Year. I don't know if it's ever happened before
Speaker 3: a rookie wins the Fenstive Player of the Year, But
Speaker 3: if there's ever a year where a rookie should win
Speaker 3: the award with such prestige, this is the year should happen.
Speaker 2: It is this, This is his award.
Speaker 1: I mean it's hands down defensive player, meaning he's guarding
Speaker 1: the ball, he's help side, he's defending. Yeah, he got
Speaker 1: a hit for seventy and six. But he took the challenge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he took the challenge to try to guard these guys,
Speaker 1: knowing that he couldn't stop Jokisch, He couldn't stop and
Speaker 1: be those were learning Those are learning games, and he's
Speaker 1: grown from the first day we seen him to now yes,
Speaker 1: it looks like a whole different player, and he does
Speaker 1: me watching this game today, this.
Speaker 2: Is the battle of number one and Rudy. You didn't
Speaker 2: want to take the challenge? You, No, I don't blame.
Speaker 2: It would be the.
Speaker 1: Guy that is the winner. Joki says, all right, look
Speaker 1: at I got the NDP on the line. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: show you what I'm gonna do. And I don't I
Speaker 1: don't get why white teams put guards and small forwards
Speaker 1: on Yokish, but it's just dumb basketball.
Speaker 2: Back gil.
Speaker 3: I think they look at it and he doesn't have
Speaker 3: the musculature or of Dwhite Howard, or he's not a
Speaker 3: skulpting like an Elies. You want to have the caps
Speaker 3: on his shoulder like a David Robinson. So you just
Speaker 3: look at it. You're like, man, he just looked like
Speaker 3: a blob. I mean, he ain't got no definition, he
Speaker 3: ain't got nothing. The only cuss on him is that
Speaker 3: when people scratch it. He probably ain't got no cuss
Speaker 3: on his knees or anything like that, or you know,
Speaker 3: scrapes on his legs or nothing. And so you probably
Speaker 3: underestimated by just looking at it. But once he gets
Speaker 3: out on the court at some point in time, you're like, well, hell,
Speaker 3: he moving people. He he dunks, he dips in with
Speaker 3: that shoulder. He's just lodging people from that spot. So
Speaker 3: clearly he's stronger that he looks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you wouldn't put you wouldn't put a small guy
Speaker 1: on Zach Randolph when he played or Marc Gasol, right,
Speaker 1: had the same body and the same type of.
Speaker 2: Movie he is skilled with.
Speaker 1: Yes, you're not gonna bait him to throw all of
Speaker 1: his weight on you.
Speaker 2: No, he's just gonna move around.
Speaker 1: He's just gonna keep moving to you get and you're
Speaker 1: so small compared to him. When he does decide to shoot,
Speaker 1: you're nowhere Like this is like Kate putting the guard
Speaker 1: on KD. He doesn't sit down there right, like fucking fly.
Speaker 1: Sorry about that word. You're a fly in his world? Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: and that and that's that's just the honest troop, Like
Speaker 1: why are you putting why are you putting smaller guys
Speaker 1: on him? You just you're just feeding him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the thing is Gil that he is so good
Speaker 3: at and the grapes are really good at. He knows
Speaker 3: the moment you anchor, he spins off the boot the
Speaker 3: moment he feels you you th thirty, you break yourself like,
Speaker 3: oh you playing for this? And he just if you notice,
Speaker 3: he'll just keep like okay, oh that's a little harder.
Speaker 3: Oh into the basket he goes, and then with damn,
Speaker 3: I thought I had no and he gil. I'll be honest,
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever seen a guy. Only
Speaker 3: Kyrie can match his touch around the basket. No, big,
Speaker 3: I've never seen a big have that kind of touch
Speaker 3: with either hand around the basket.
Speaker 2: Zach Randolf like like Zach was all my head, Zach.
Speaker 2: I don't think Zacho was shot anything with but it was.
Speaker 2: You know guys like that, you remember, uh was it sweetening? Right?
Speaker 2: Had had a nice touch.
Speaker 1: You know, Guys that are not very athletic in their yes,
Speaker 1: they usually have a great feel around that basket. And
Speaker 1: that's why you have to keep him away from it
Speaker 1: with lean. Let let him try to alter and throw
Speaker 1: shots up. And he shoots the ball with such I
Speaker 1: mean blocking that shot. I mean he's shooting from way
Speaker 1: up here like lave bird. But he's seven foot tall
Speaker 1: and you'd rather have that, right, I really lay, except
Speaker 1: except when he except when he plays against the Lakers,
Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter where he shoots it from.
Speaker 2: It's going in clock widing down.
Speaker 1: It does not matter one foot, wrong foot, two feet,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Gill, You're right, You're right, You're right about that. But
Speaker 3: I did I think. I think tonight he sold it
Speaker 3: up the MVP.
Speaker 2: Gill.
Speaker 3: His last seven games is forty one eleven and seven
Speaker 3: three steals sixteen of twenty twenty eight, thirteen seven three
Speaker 3: steals thirteen twenty nineteen, fourteen, eleven assists, three steals six
Speaker 3: of thirteen, thirty six, seventeen, ten assists fourteen to twenty four,
Speaker 3: forty two sixteen, six assists, two blocks, eighteen to thirty two,
Speaker 3: twenty six, eighteen, sixteen assists eleven of eighteen thirty two,
Speaker 3: ten five eleven of twenty four. It's over Gil, No, No,
Speaker 3: it's when Embeid went down. It was over right, it
Speaker 3: was it was, it was over It's.
Speaker 2: Just one of those things where.
Speaker 1: If this was last year or the year before, we
Speaker 1: wouldn't even be questioning who the nd it is, right,
Speaker 1: But the fact that he's probably gotten one or two
Speaker 1: that wasn't actually his. So now you want to try
Speaker 1: to figure out how not to them. Yeah, right, and
Speaker 1: at this point the milk is spilt. You can't do
Speaker 1: nothing about it. You can't rob them today, right, you
Speaker 1: can't today. You can't penalize him for what you did
Speaker 1: two years agoing three, you can't do it.
Speaker 2: This is he earned this one.
Speaker 3: You know what it is, Gil if the old sam
Speaker 3: my grandma said, boy, you can't pun in somebody for
Speaker 3: the seins of their father because they get because because
Speaker 3: somebody made a mistake or you robbed somebody else. You
Speaker 3: can't make it right now. You can't make it right now.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, and I understand, man, but like some
Speaker 3: of the greats, ain't with that. Ain't got nothing to
Speaker 3: do with me. Some of You're right, some of the
Speaker 3: grades didn't win three and four years.
Speaker 1: But where we are now and what and what he's doing.
Speaker 3: I don't And I'm not so sure it's going to
Speaker 3: be closed. I really don't. I don't really think it's
Speaker 3: going to be closed. I know Luca, Luca has been
Speaker 3: on an equally impressive tear. But I think that what's
Speaker 3: helping Yoke.
Speaker 1: Is that when Murray went down, and Murray had rested
Speaker 1: that knee, and he's doing this and because remember he
Speaker 1: did a lot of this and what was that that
Speaker 1: year that Murray was out, Remember and he put up
Speaker 1: these number It's like, oh, he got to give it
Speaker 1: to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what else? What I'm saying.
Speaker 1: His team was ten, they had the ten the best record, right,
Speaker 1: So he nailed the Denver up to the ten best record, right,
Speaker 1: that's holding that holding him up, right, But they found
Speaker 1: a way to give it to him.
Speaker 2: Is he going to be the worst player on that list? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But someone has to be it, right, Someone has to
Speaker 1: be the worst on that list.
Speaker 2: Oh you think he's the worst MVP.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if there's such a thing,
Speaker 1: but three and four years.
Speaker 2: I want to I want to be the poorest billionaire.
Speaker 2: Someone has to be ten. I'd rather be on that
Speaker 2: list than not on it, exactly. I'd rather be on
Speaker 2: the list. Hey, hey, hey, someone needs to be ten.
Speaker 3: I'll take it right now. You were talking about Defensive
Speaker 3: Player of the Year. This is rookie's winby season. He
Speaker 3: has eight games with at least seven blocks in seventy
Speaker 3: career games. Rudy Gobert has seven games with at least
Speaker 3: seven blocks in seven hundred and fifty four games, he's
Speaker 3: a better defender, and people like, what, oh, but he's
Speaker 3: seven to four. Y'all may seem like Rudy go best
Speaker 3: six two? What damn he said he wined Rudy seven two. Yes,
Speaker 3: defending is defending.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 1: If you nine feet and then then somebody can't score.
Speaker 1: That is called defending. Now, I want to put it
Speaker 1: out there today. When he wins this award as.
Speaker 2: A as A as A as.
Speaker 1: A, do not get rids fatigue and voters fatigue and voting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they might be winning to the row. He might be
Speaker 1: Wayne Gretsky in this defensive war.
Speaker 3: He should I like it like baseball, like the Golden
Speaker 3: the golod Gloves. I mean, you know, Griffy, Griffy had
Speaker 3: like a streaker, like what ten Barns won, Like, hey,
Speaker 3: bron if you're the best as something key eight man.
Speaker 3: You know, he don't want enough for him. He don't
Speaker 3: want five in the row, six in a row. So
Speaker 3: if he's the best, day, give it to him.
Speaker 1: NBA and the NBA we have a problem with that.
Speaker 1: That's our one problem that we have that we they
Speaker 1: get tired of voting for.
Speaker 2: The same person and you can't. You can't. You gotta
Speaker 2: stop it.
Speaker 1: At some point you got to give the people who
Speaker 1: deserve it their awards. And you can see that Winby
Speaker 1: could hold this thing down for a while.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure and that.
Speaker 1: But and then people were like, well, man, man, look
Speaker 1: I taught Winby is Wimby Sam four.
Speaker 3: I say, man, y'all talk about it. Y'all talk about
Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert like he muggsy bowls. He's Sam too, Sam
Speaker 3: two and a half something. So it's not I mean
Speaker 3: we're splitting hairs here.
Speaker 2: I mean there.
Speaker 3: I mean Draymond what Draymond sixty six, sixty seven, He's
Speaker 3: defensive player over the year.
Speaker 2: Jordan was six six. Albert Robertson was six four.
Speaker 3: One of the few men in the NBA history ever
Speaker 3: have a quadruple double did it with steals.
Speaker 1: I mean, for the most part, big man are usually
Speaker 1: the ones that win it. You know, you have Shaquille O'Neil.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he wants no, shack ain't
Speaker 1: never won, never won one. But you got uh, David Robinson,
Speaker 1: a team, Elijah Wan.
Speaker 2: These are big guys. I mean they're just getting bigger now.
Speaker 3: I say, maybe artist Gilmore won it way back when.
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: Now gil with.
Speaker 1: But the guards because remember GP won Jordan one, Alvin
Speaker 1: Robertson won Robin was was six eighty.
Speaker 2: He won it twice.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, but that probably you're probably right because of
Speaker 3: shot blocking.
Speaker 2: Yep, shot blocking, blocking, rebounding, like and now guys.
Speaker 3: And now guys are getting really good with their hands.
Speaker 3: Now they're kind of deflections as as a as a
Speaker 3: defensive stat and guys were like, well hold on, damn,
Speaker 3: y'all just adding stuff, tried to find way to create categories.
Speaker 3: It's like a it's like a it's like a defensive back. Well,
Speaker 3: he had seven deflections. What that means he didn't catch
Speaker 3: the ball?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I thought they checked you with the catchall, not deflect
Speaker 3: the ball. So he deflected why he steal it? So
Speaker 3: I get it. But I think this was This was
Speaker 3: a great game last night. It was close between the
Speaker 3: Nuggets and the Timberwolves. But late with probably like the
Speaker 3: last five minutes, the Nugget Nuggets blew the game wide
Speaker 3: open and they coached it from there. But Jokich had
Speaker 3: an unbelievable night forty one, forty one eleven, seven sists,
Speaker 3: three steals on sixteen of twenty Mayfield goals.
Speaker 2: So the Nuggets moved to first.
Speaker 3: In the West and needs to win the last two
Speaker 3: or one of their last two and have OKC in
Speaker 3: Minnesota League. Lose one of those and they would be
Speaker 3: the number one seed in the Western Conference.
Speaker 2: Got the Maverick go ahead. I kind of.
Speaker 1: Got to since those last five minutes, I kind of
Speaker 1: got this. Since the last five minutes they didn't want
Speaker 1: to win that game. Who didn't Minnesota?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 1: Just something about everybody's shooting for Pelicans right now? I
Speaker 1: think everybody want to play the Pelicans first round. I
Speaker 1: think every like that third that third seed looks amazing
Speaker 1: right now, that second seed and that first seed. You're
Speaker 1: gonna either play Clippers, Dallas, Lakers, or Sons.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that third seed them right, yeah, give me them? Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is, uh, well, I know who
Speaker 2: did want to win?
Speaker 1: A different want to win because Yoga say give me
Speaker 1: the down because he had like four straight possessions where
Speaker 1: he went right into Rudy Gober's chips.
Speaker 2: He say, give me, give me the ball. I want
Speaker 2: to win.
Speaker 3: They don't want to win. Okay, Well, I'm a hip y'all,
Speaker 3: and I want to win. I'm better take this game over.
Speaker 1: And you know who like man handle An He's god
Speaker 1: damn way. The man clinch a top six seed in
Speaker 1: the West with a win over the Heat and the
Speaker 1: Clippers on the MAVs are officially facing off in round one.
Speaker 1: It seems like the Clippers can't get away from Luca.
Speaker 3: They can't get away from Luca, then about the hour
Speaker 3: they try. New teams have been horder than the Mavericks
Speaker 3: going into the playoff. The Map just won their fifth
Speaker 3: straight game and have won sixteen of the last eight.
Speaker 3: Team with Luca averaging almost to triple double this season
Speaker 3: thirty four points, nine point eight assists, nine point two rebounds.
Speaker 3: Kyrie Irvin twenty five point six, five point two five
Speaker 3: rebounds per game, shooting forty nine and a half. Come on, kay,
Speaker 3: get that point because he'll be the second guy since
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant to do it twice fifty forty ninety percent
Speaker 3: from the floor, forty percent from the three, ninety percent
Speaker 3: from the free throw line.
Speaker 2: So he's point five behind that right now.
Speaker 1: I ain't taking no more threes, hey, I'll bet sure.
Speaker 2: I'll bet sure. I'll stay that year. And right now
Speaker 2: I shoot number layup.
Speaker 1: I get I would go about five, go five for seven.
Speaker 3: Luca, go ahead and take this thing over. They can't
Speaker 3: catch you for the scored league. Uh but BD, you're right.
Speaker 3: I watched the Mavericks tonight and they'll do it. Did
Speaker 3: a job on the heat.
Speaker 1: Luca and Kyrie took the game over, had a big lead,
Speaker 1: they whittle it down.
Speaker 2: And then those guys.
Speaker 3: Gafford has been a godsend because he's active and so
Speaker 3: now Luca can do what he does. And you got
Speaker 3: so focused on Luca. Next thing you know, Luca's doing
Speaker 3: this and the man's dunking the backwards Lively Lively. I
Speaker 3: think Lively might be injured right now.
Speaker 2: PJ.
Speaker 3: Washington has been been a great, great knockdown shots, decent defender.
Speaker 3: Get on the boards, because look, their problem is never
Speaker 3: gonna be offense. Their problem is gonna be They're probably
Speaker 3: is gonna be stopping people. They're gonna look, Luke, look,
Speaker 3: we know Luca and Kai between the two can give
Speaker 3: you sixty easy on a nightly basis. So that's not
Speaker 3: that's not going to be their issue. They can get
Speaker 3: hot from three with Hardaway Junior. We know Luca can
Speaker 3: get hot, Kay can get hot.
Speaker 2: PJ.
Speaker 3: Washington can get hot. So we know they can score.
Speaker 3: But in a nip tuck ball game, can you get stopped?
Speaker 3: Clutch time? That's what playoff basketball. A lot of time
Speaker 3: comes down to last five minutes game, within five can
Speaker 3: you get stopped?
Speaker 1: Well, they're playing against the Clippers and Luca owns them. Oh, hey, damaged,
Speaker 1: damn near faulty. I mean last ten games alone, he's
Speaker 1: averaged thirty seven against them. Yeah, for his career against them.
Speaker 1: That means as a rookie. Also, he's averaging thirty two
Speaker 1: against the Clippers.
Speaker 2: Right, he lived. You remember what he did?
Speaker 3: He Paul George all the remember Oh nobody played defense
Speaker 3: on the perimeter. Ooh, they might be the best of
Speaker 3: Scotty and Mike Lucas, say give.
Speaker 2: Me each one of them.
Speaker 3: Hey, as a matter of fact, Cal, I know you
Speaker 3: ain't much of a fisherman, but in the side, were like,
Speaker 3: we catch a fish and small with we throwing back. Heye'
Speaker 3: tell you daddy about me. We catch you a little
Speaker 3: big a we throw it back. Go get your grandpa.
Speaker 3: So Lucas with dusted all of it and say, hey, Pigi,
Speaker 3: go get me, go get me Kawhi, Pat bel Hey,
Speaker 3: whoever the best defender, tell.
Speaker 2: Him, come to see me. What about forty five and fifteen?
Speaker 3: Now they might have won, but he was single handedly
Speaker 3: giving them work. Now can you imagine the confidence because
Speaker 3: there's something, there's something to be said, Like I felt
Speaker 3: I could do no wrong if I played Kansas City
Speaker 3: and the Chargers. If I ever played it didn't matter
Speaker 3: on the moon, on the sun where it's ten thousand degrees,
Speaker 3: I was gonna cook they ass I believe in Lucas mind,
Speaker 3: that's how he feels about the Clippers.
Speaker 1: No, no, that that is how he feels about the Clippers.
Speaker 1: It's just that's his team. His team is the Clippers,
Speaker 1: and he gives them fits if if Clippers want to
Speaker 1: get out of this series, there's only one person you
Speaker 1: have to even focus on.
Speaker 2: I know they have Kyrie, but this man is Superman.
Speaker 1: When he's playing against you, guys, I'm gonna throw a
Speaker 1: double out of him earlier, I'm gonna let him know
Speaker 1: we're not playing you one on one.
Speaker 2: Hey, fellas IPREGI defense that you've been.
Speaker 1: Doing but he owns y'all right, he owned He owes
Speaker 1: you like a like that OJ.
Speaker 2: That's he is. But he owes you.
Speaker 1: And from there, I'm just gonna double him the whole time.
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna let him. I'm not even gonna
Speaker 1: let him get a rhythm of this game, even if
Speaker 1: I lose, and I want him mentally challenged, right, But
Speaker 1: if you let him, he gets thirty and all we done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's hard, you know, kill.
Speaker 3: I think it's just hard because you try to create
Speaker 3: a situation where you don't let him play so much
Speaker 3: one on one. But it's hard and you can't speed
Speaker 3: him up. He goes on his own rhythm.
Speaker 1: He's slow motion to begin with, and so even if
Speaker 1: you speed him up, he's only going in second gear.
Speaker 3: It's not that you don't ever make him play fast.
Speaker 3: He's like, oh no, okay, boot, you know, dude, And
Speaker 3: you know he's behind his back in between his legs
Speaker 3: and he's up here, and he's up there, and then
Speaker 3: he he.
Speaker 2: Might lay it up in fifteen feet.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's so unique and he's so skilled and
Speaker 3: his footwork is so good. I just the question is
Speaker 3: how healthy is it's Kawhi, body gonna allow him to
Speaker 3: play a series. It's pg body gonna allow him to
Speaker 3: play a series? And will it allow him to play
Speaker 3: not one, not two, but three series? Not one, not two,
Speaker 3: not three, but four if you advance to the NBA finals?
Speaker 2: Is that is that possible? Oh no, wait wait hold on,
Speaker 2: you said finals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying you know, you know you gotta win
Speaker 1: sixteen games, so that means you're gonna have to go
Speaker 1: at least four rounds. I got the Clippers win about
Speaker 1: five games.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's it.
Speaker 1: They can get full in round one and then if
Speaker 1: they get to the second, get one, right.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I mean I don't have
Speaker 2: them going to the Western Conference finals. I mean.
Speaker 1: Because they have a Luca and Kyrie that's gonna challenge them.
Speaker 1: And they're gonna challenge those guards that they have, which
Speaker 1: is gonna challenge Uh why is gonna challenge Paul George?
Speaker 2: Which is gonna get them tired for the next round.
Speaker 1: So you know, this is a tough matchup for the Clippers,
Speaker 1: is a tough matchup for Dallas. But Dallas is favored
Speaker 1: because Lucas. This is Lucas ted right, So I'm not
Speaker 1: playing them straight up, not one game.
Speaker 2: So you go take your as with Kai.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna let Tim Hardway, Tim Hardway, were gonna
Speaker 1: have to have fifty. Man, you're gonna have to be Luca, right,
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to be you gonna have to be Luca.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let both y'all get off. While he's like,
Speaker 1: it's just a different Kyrie's Kyrie. He's gonna figure out
Speaker 1: how to get his point. But I want Kyrie to
Speaker 1: think like Boston.
Speaker 2: Right. If I'm cutting if I'm.
Speaker 1: Cutting Luca off, Kyrie has to now try to think
Speaker 1: about the team.
Speaker 2: So if he's thinking about the team, he's not being
Speaker 2: Kyrie right right.
Speaker 1: I want him to be the perfect number two option
Speaker 1: where he just thinks about kill.
Speaker 2: Mode, right right.
Speaker 1: I want him to I want Kyrie to think about
Speaker 1: getting everybody involved. If you can take Luca out and
Speaker 1: make Kyrie think about the rest of the team, he
Speaker 1: probably might look like the Kyrie in Boston where he's
Speaker 1: trying to be a point guard. If Tyrie's trying to
Speaker 1: be a point guard kind of helps us out a
Speaker 1: little bit. If Kyrie just is out there thinking about scoring.
Speaker 1: We but I'd rather just have him do it than
Speaker 1: have him and Luca doing that.
Speaker 3: I think the thing is, when you're looking at it,
Speaker 3: Daniel Gaffert is all dumps, lay up, so he probably
Speaker 3: shooting eighty percent from from the floor because he was
Speaker 3: six and six tonight. Remember he's on that stretch where
Speaker 3: I think he made like twenty five thirty something straight
Speaker 3: shots in the row.
Speaker 2: Kyrie is very efficient.
Speaker 3: Even though he takes I mean he took fifteen shots,
Speaker 3: he made ten of them. He was five of eight
Speaker 3: from the three. Din' shoot the free throw. Luca's gotten
Speaker 3: better from the free throw line. He was seven of
Speaker 3: eight four fifteen from the three point line. I think
Speaker 3: the thing is, the question is Gil, do you let
Speaker 3: Luca get his forty fifty or do you or you
Speaker 3: try to try to limit him and make him a
Speaker 3: facilitator because we know he's capable, still cap getting fifteen
Speaker 3: to sis. Even if you get forty. Ain't no guarantee.
Speaker 3: Even if you say, well, you know what we're gonna
Speaker 3: try to stop Luca, Ain't no guarantee that you're stopp
Speaker 3: him because he still can get thirty three, fifteen and ten.
Speaker 2: I'm doubling.
Speaker 1: As soon as he passed half court, he's running another
Speaker 1: man at him.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna how we had to try to guard cob
Speaker 2: and Ai. He ain't as fast. He ain't.
Speaker 1: I'm a Paul George. You got him Hawaii, Go Sodie.
Speaker 1: Every time he touched it, go, every time he touched it.
Speaker 2: Go, y'all gonna have to play four on three. That's it.
Speaker 1: I'm not playing no games. I'm we're not switching, no pick.
Speaker 1: He tried to pick a roll. We're gonna trap it.
Speaker 1: I am not allowing him to play me. If he
Speaker 1: get five shots up in this quarter, we got a problem.
Speaker 1: Oh he getting up. He gonna get shot up. Hey,
Speaker 1: he better check it from the half court. That's the
Speaker 1: type of to you. So you you tramp it. If
Speaker 1: you tramped it, Susie cross ham Court, you gotta give
Speaker 1: it up.
Speaker 2: I might track them up.
Speaker 1: I got the three other three point line. I've seen
Speaker 1: him shoot the half course. I might trap him there.
Speaker 1: I need to frustrate him. I can't just let him
Speaker 1: look at one defender. I need to I need him
Speaker 1: to do one of these.
Speaker 5: Huh, oh Mann, one of those you know when you're
Speaker 5: getting double Yeah, you get you get this, you get this,
Speaker 5: interested man, you sit at the half court, do one
Speaker 5: of those.
Speaker 2: That's what I need. But hold on, what happened to
Speaker 2: the what happened to the new? What happened to the new?
Speaker 3: Scottie and Mike Geordan, Geordan people, they trapped Nobody?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we're gonna combine him.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna combine him. We're gonna have Scottie
Speaker 1: and Mike doing together. We got We're gonna blend the two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just like I said.
Speaker 3: The question is, and then Harden, what version of Harden
Speaker 3: are we gonna get?
Speaker 2: He doesn't need to be Houston Harden.
Speaker 3: We know he can have a game where he can
Speaker 3: go get mid thirties, maybe even forties. But it's still
Speaker 3: coming down to Kawhi.
Speaker 1: Kawhi is not healthy. They're not winning the series. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do this too. If Luca's gonna guard Harden Harden,
Speaker 1: I need you, Houston Harden.
Speaker 3: I can't because because now you can't have that Gil,
Speaker 3: because Kawhi.
Speaker 2: And PG gonna lose interest. I don't even I do
Speaker 2: not care. The reason is.
Speaker 1: Luca has to be if we're gonna challenge him when
Speaker 1: he's on offense.
Speaker 2: I need to challenge him when he's on defense, right, and.
Speaker 1: He's gonna guard the guy who's not gonna score. He's
Speaker 1: gonna get all this rest. So that means I need
Speaker 1: to hit him on both sides of the course. So,
Speaker 1: James Harden, I need you to be the most aggressive
Speaker 1: round two and three. Round two Okay, in PG, that might,
Speaker 1: but this round we need to challenge Kyrie and Luca.
Speaker 1: Wherever Luca's Guarden, We're gonna go at. We have to
Speaker 1: go at Luca defensively.
Speaker 2: Right, because if he gets in foul trouble, that hurts
Speaker 2: its offense.
Speaker 1: If you get him in foul trouble, he sits down,
Speaker 1: he gets frustrated. We need to We can't just let
Speaker 1: this man play all offense. So if he gets this
Speaker 1: hit James Harden and James hard is taken ten shots.
Speaker 1: You did, Dallas, a great job. Because you're worried about PG.
Speaker 2: This ain't your series, bro, This ain't just series series.
Speaker 3: Hey, PG, said Ben, I want that long term extension.
Speaker 3: I ain't playing with you, Gil. I'm going to get
Speaker 3: my shots up.
Speaker 1: But but but it's it's it's a game plan, right
Speaker 1: price for the game plan.
Speaker 2: Then you know, just go ahead and get on up
Speaker 2: out of here.
Speaker 3: I sacrifice for my portfolio.
Speaker 2: He ain't.
Speaker 3: Hey, I just saw. I just saw Holiday give fourth
Speaker 3: for what thirty five? He said, So I'm looking at it.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at foth for what seventy five drew Holiday.
Speaker 3: I wont two for one seventy five. That's what I'm saying. So, man,
Speaker 3: you must sacrifice. Oh, because if I sacrifice you, the
Speaker 3: first thing you say, I'm slipping, and you're only going
Speaker 3: to give me no max deal. I need to be
Speaker 3: on the max.
Speaker 1: But I think with the media today, if even if.
Speaker 2: He has thirty and all that and they get out
Speaker 2: of it, if they don't get out of the first round,
Speaker 2: they're gonna be laughed at. They're not gonna be working.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just getting out of the round. The best,
Speaker 1: the best game playing here is keep Luca from trying
Speaker 1: to play one on one basketball and then attack that
Speaker 1: man on I.
Speaker 2: Don't care who he's got you.
Speaker 1: You find a way to attack him on on the
Speaker 1: on on that.
Speaker 2: Side, you gotta you gotta get him tired.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you would you would take the Clippers and
Speaker 1: you were taking you're taking the Clippers. I gotta see
Speaker 1: the first game, Okay, if they go on my game plan,
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Clippers. If they're gonna go the same
Speaker 1: thing they've been doing for the last twenty eight games.
Speaker 2: But they but they win, They might, they might take
Speaker 2: them six or seven. Gal.
Speaker 3: But the Clippers haven't lost to the Maverick. Whoever lost
Speaker 3: to the Maverick. They got Kyrie? Now, But you say
Speaker 3: you would? They say you ain't worried about Kyrie. Uh,
Speaker 3: you say you ain't worried about Kyrie.
Speaker 1: Listen, if Luca's gonna give you a thirty, if he's
Speaker 1: gonna give you a third, well he averages thirty seven.
Speaker 1: If he's gonna give you a thirty seven, what does
Speaker 1: Kyrie need at this point?
Speaker 2: Kyle? Well, first of all, they ain't got nobody guard Kyrie.
Speaker 3: No Paul George, Paul George, Terrence man Kawhi uh tug
Speaker 3: ain't nobody seeing him? Now, I know what you that's
Speaker 3: who You better get the ball out of his head.
Speaker 3: You know he starts dancing, oh man, dropping these guys.
Speaker 2: See, That's what I'm saying, because I'm dropped, like if.
Speaker 1: Because Kyrie has like Kyrie's under guard James Harden.
Speaker 2: That means I'm dropping Paul George. This this is simple basketball.
Speaker 1: To drop right, to drop put him in, put him in,
Speaker 1: put him in that post PG. He's gonna guard you,
Speaker 1: get your close to the rim, lay that in. He
Speaker 1: can't block you. Luca down there like I'm gonna really check.
Speaker 1: This is one of those where you're playing check. You
Speaker 1: just can't play basketball right right.
Speaker 2: I'm watching enough playoff games. I've played in some.
Speaker 1: Playoff games where I'm looking at like, man, we need
Speaker 1: to change it up or we're gonna lose this series.
Speaker 1: There's some series you went in and say they don't
Speaker 1: even matter what we do. When we played I mean
Speaker 1: we played Miami and Shaknandy play two of those games,
Speaker 1: and I know coach was like, let's just not get swept.
Speaker 2: Swept. There was nohing we can do. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: this was a man.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean just think about like when Shaq
Speaker 1: within his I mean, because they won three in a row,
Speaker 1: but to get out of that to it because it
Speaker 1: was always a dog fight between them and san Antonio,
Speaker 1: because san Antonio had the system they styled.
Speaker 2: They're gonna they're gonna back country.
Speaker 3: Tony Parker was a demon because he could get to
Speaker 3: the rim against anybody. He wasn't gonna lay there. He
Speaker 3: gonna play up a low the rim, but he gonna
Speaker 3: get to the rib and lay it up. A Manu
Speaker 3: was slashing knife into the basket and Tim Duncan was
Speaker 3: Tim Duncan.
Speaker 2: It didn't matter. He gonna get his.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: But it's gonna be if that, that's gonna be a
Speaker 2: very very interesting series.
Speaker 1: I probably would take the Clippers, but but it's all
Speaker 1: contingent on Hot Kawhi.
Speaker 2: If Kawhi there, they're not beating them without Quai. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean they have enough.
Speaker 1: Look, they have enough firepower, but it's it's stilly not
Speaker 1: beating them without Kawhi. Gill whoever has the best game plan,
Speaker 1: I don't care what game plan it came with.
Speaker 2: They didn't get it from the Pentagon, but Kai, it
Speaker 2: was not beat them.
Speaker 3: And I like Tyleru. I like Tyleru to out coach
Speaker 3: ja Key. But with I Kauai, they not beating the Mavericks.
Speaker 1: Now with I Kawhi, Dallas has been a great defensive
Speaker 1: team last month month and a half.
Speaker 2: They have they have That's why I'm saying with I Kauhi,
Speaker 2: they not beating Dallas. H I just got to see
Speaker 2: that first game.
Speaker 1: I want to see what thee go ahead?
Speaker 2: What you want to think? You'll go ahead? What they
Speaker 2: have forty first game? I'm like, all right, all right, clips.
Speaker 3: Charles Barkley calls out the Sons for being mentally before
Speaker 3: for being weak and soft.
Speaker 2: Let's take a listen what Chuck had to say. Sons,
Speaker 2: are they gonna figure it out?
Speaker 6: No, they're not gonna figure it out. That means, well,
Speaker 6: they're not they're not they don't having the toughness. Uh,
Speaker 6: the leaders are not leading. So you know you're not
Speaker 6: gonna turn it on just late in the season. So
Speaker 6: I'm not sure what you expected. But they're mental tough ones,
Speaker 6: they're weak mentally and it's not gonna go good for him.
Speaker 2: What do you recommend? How do they fix what they on?
Speaker 6: Them? Brothers?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: But up from the Florida they just really soft and
Speaker 6: their leadership is not the players. The leadership the players
Speaker 6: have not led.
Speaker 2: What's your take?
Speaker 5: Oh man?
Speaker 3: And it seems to be it seems to be a
Speaker 3: real current theme on teams. That's Kevin Durant's own we
Speaker 3: saw this in Brooklyn, not so much. Look it was
Speaker 3: ready to we know Golden State, Draymond, Steph clay so
Speaker 3: for the song. But I don't remember now, I don't
Speaker 3: remember hearing anything about leadership when Kevin Durant was an OK.
Speaker 3: See now, probably Russ was the leader of the team
Speaker 3: and Kat was perfectly fine with that. KD wonted hoop.
Speaker 3: Kat as trying to give no, no, no pregame speeches,
Speaker 3: no mid game speeches, no postgame speeches.
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant come get his work in. Who go do
Speaker 2: what he does?
Speaker 3: But why does everybody seem like what what would do
Speaker 3: from a guy that played in the league outside looking in?
Speaker 3: Maybe you know some things, But what do you think
Speaker 3: is going on with with with Phoenix? Because they should
Speaker 3: be I don't I don't care.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 1: If they got no great elite defenders, they should be
Speaker 1: better than what they are. I mean, no, we can't
Speaker 1: say that. But you know they haven't been healthy all
Speaker 1: year long.
Speaker 2: Right, they traded.
Speaker 1: They traded a lot of their team to get Bill
Speaker 1: and Bill miss a lot of this season, right.
Speaker 2: Trade a lot of the TV to get KD too.
Speaker 2: So you know, when you're.
Speaker 1: Missing one, you're missing a guy who got rid of
Speaker 1: three or four people. You're not gonna be as good
Speaker 1: as you're supposed to be. But I don't like the
Speaker 1: idea of attacking someone's leadership. How do you know who's
Speaker 1: leading or not? Right?
Speaker 2: You don't know.
Speaker 1: You don't know what's being said in the locker room.
Speaker 1: You don't know what is being said and practiced. You
Speaker 1: don't know what Because someone doesn't have emotions when you
Speaker 1: want them to.
Speaker 2: Have emotions, not necessarily a leader.
Speaker 1: If Draymond Green wasn't there, well we'll be saying seven
Speaker 1: is not a leader because he don't talk.
Speaker 2: Right, denver Is, Y'll get your leader. He don't talk,
Speaker 2: He don't do pregame speeches. He don't do none of that.
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler don't talk, he don't say much. Right, So
Speaker 2: why are we always.
Speaker 1: Challenging someone's leadership because they're losing game or doesn't look
Speaker 1: as good as it's supposed to look. Basketball is basketball.
Speaker 1: Everyone leads in different ways, right, challengship? Who was?
Speaker 5: Who?
Speaker 2: Who was? When were you a leader? Let me know
Speaker 2: what year did you lead your team?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: You can't say the first year you got the sons
Speaker 2: because that was. That was Kevin Johnson's team. You were
Speaker 2: just a higher gun.
Speaker 1: It wasn't when you went the Houston, when you was
Speaker 1: in when you was in Philly the first year y'all
Speaker 1: was successful.
Speaker 2: That was Doctor J and Moses.
Speaker 1: Wasn't you right? It was calling you fat boy. You
Speaker 1: had to get in shape to be on that team.
Speaker 1: So we can we can from the outside. We can
Speaker 1: always challenge somebody's leadership when they're when we think they're failing.
Speaker 2: Right right, when we think they're feelings. So we don't
Speaker 2: know who's Are.
Speaker 1: They working hard although it has anybody said they don't.
Speaker 1: They don't come to the gym and work out and
Speaker 1: work and work on their craft. No, have we talked
Speaker 1: about man, this has been a bad year for Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2: No, no, we have not.
Speaker 1: He has showed up every single year. Devin Booker had
Speaker 1: showed up every single year. They've done their part. If
Speaker 1: somebody is getting hurt, if they're getting hurt, we can't.
Speaker 1: We can't blame leadership on that they got hurt. But
Speaker 1: for the most part, when those boys are on that court.
Speaker 2: They play the asses off. Yeah, I mean you're right.
Speaker 3: I mean people lead in different ways, I was more
Speaker 3: of a I think the thing is is that you
Speaker 3: have to understand the team that you're trying to lead
Speaker 3: or you been entrusted to lead, because you can't lead
Speaker 3: every guy. And it's a lot different than a football
Speaker 3: team because you got so many more different guys, so
Speaker 3: many different so many more people.
Speaker 2: And you know, you got guys.
Speaker 3: You know, tight ends go to one room, and running
Speaker 3: backs go to one room, and the wide receivers go
Speaker 3: to one room. And you got dv either the line
Speaker 3: back in the old line, of the d line, of
Speaker 3: the quarterback. But I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: for me, my job was to make sure everybody understood
Speaker 3: the assignment. Everybody had bought in and you know, I'm looking,
Speaker 3: I'm looking around.
Speaker 5: Is that you know?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Is this the reason why you missing assignments because you
Speaker 3: try to get to the phone. Is this why you're
Speaker 3: not doing what you're supposed to because you know, ay,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna you know, go tell the coach, a
Speaker 3: coach he out, he's staying out late.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm gonna come nearly.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 3: Now you do realize Denver is a football town. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what do you think you can do that, Mike's not
Speaker 3: gonna find out about I mean, you coming in here,
Speaker 3: you smell it like you just got out of ata alcohol.
Speaker 3: Go get your ass in the shower because you wreaking.
Speaker 3: Now we're gonna go sit in this this this meeting room,
Speaker 3: and you're gonna be smelling like that. Go bro, come on, now,
Speaker 3: you got twenty weeks all we asked for. Give us
Speaker 3: four months? Can you give us four five months? Then
Speaker 3: after that, if you want to go on a three
Speaker 3: month bender, take off with it. But I think the
Speaker 3: thing if you have to, I mean, like I said
Speaker 3: I was, I was more of a come on now,
Speaker 3: this is what we expect. I ain't gonna let you
Speaker 3: sleep in the meeting room. I'm not gonna let you
Speaker 3: do what to do. I see you slacking off at practice.
Speaker 3: I'm hey see I couldn't just like follow my lead, Yeah,
Speaker 3: follow my league, wash the way I eat, wash, the
Speaker 3: way I practice, watch the way I do certain things.
Speaker 3: But you know, sometimes you have to give guys a
Speaker 3: little nudge. But then that's but that's okay that maybe
Speaker 3: that's not what Kady is. And you can't make somebody
Speaker 3: something that they're not.
Speaker 2: But how do we know that.
Speaker 1: See, But that's what I'm saying. We all he see
Speaker 1: is the games. Always see is the games. Everybody does it.
Speaker 1: Everybody's not Draymond Green when the camera's a right right right.
Speaker 2: Some people, some leaders, their.
Speaker 1: Brands is kind of big where they can't go out
Speaker 1: there and cust somebody out right when Jordan wanted to
Speaker 1: cut somebody out?
Speaker 5: What do you do?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But I think the thingure on the court Now
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm saying in the locker room and practice shoot around
Speaker 3: where y'all in the you know, do y'all call team meetings?
Speaker 3: Say I call our call, I would call a meeting,
Speaker 3: you know, not many because at some point in time
Speaker 3: it starts to fall on death is gil. So I
Speaker 3: needed to be I needed to be like a crisis
Speaker 3: situation before you like, okay, we need to have a
Speaker 3: discussion about what's really going on.
Speaker 2: How do we know that? We don't know, That's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. We don't know how many meetings they have.
Speaker 2: We don't know who's hanging out. We don't know if
Speaker 2: they have in.
Speaker 1: Film session at the Kd's house or Booker's house.
Speaker 2: We don't know.
Speaker 1: All we doing is just making up what we want
Speaker 1: to make up just because they not winning. Oh they
Speaker 1: solve everybody saw the whole team soft and Gil, this
Speaker 1: is what we know they're saw Who's I don't see
Speaker 1: nobody bullying them.
Speaker 3: Ain't nobody, ain't nobody ever been able to keep anything
Speaker 3: a secret.
Speaker 1: Now do you see that video tape? That videotape got
Speaker 1: out of dre bomb that kid and I didn't it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Now was that about hell lead to lead lead
Speaker 2: to an ass whipping? That's that we can challenge everybody's
Speaker 2: leadership if we want to. Everybody.
Speaker 3: Hey, Gil, this is what IL limit. Let me be
Speaker 3: real with you, Gil, all the way, live and shat.
Speaker 3: I think y'all agree. If we like you, we'll like
Speaker 3: your leadership ship style. If we don't, we won't because
Speaker 3: I don't give a damn how many championship you were.
Speaker 3: You nothing to punch me to get me to do
Speaker 3: my job. Now my job I got a different job.
Speaker 3: My job was the block and catch passes. Now my
Speaker 3: job is whip your ass. Then I got a new job,
Speaker 3: so I got three jobs. Now now I gotta work overtime.
Speaker 3: Found no, no, no, no, Look I get it, you
Speaker 3: know I get it. And I wasn't you, Like I said,
Speaker 3: I had to you know, wait my turn.
Speaker 2: You know you come in. I was a seventh round
Speaker 2: draft pick. I just buy it by my time.
Speaker 3: And then as I started to get more and more
Speaker 3: and more plays, I understood that you know, you know,
Speaker 3: coaching would like hey more as expected of me, as
Speaker 3: far as you know, being talkative. Uh, you know, my
Speaker 3: play warrant that I could say some things that probably
Speaker 3: earlier in my career I couldn't say. But I don't
Speaker 3: believe it. I don't believe it.
Speaker 1: That that that punching people to get people to do that,
Speaker 1: I don't get you know, people like well, if you
Speaker 1: think Michael punching Steve curR in his eye was the
Speaker 1: reason Steve knocked that shot down, you at your damn mind.
Speaker 2: Listen. I can tell you this. You punched me. You
Speaker 2: ain't getting the ball, y'all. Hey, you can do whatever
Speaker 2: you want to do. You're hitting me.
Speaker 1: You're not getting the ball. Only way you get the
Speaker 1: ball I will not. I don't give a shit what
Speaker 1: he called. You're getting the ball from me.
Speaker 2: And I proved those points plenty of time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, like you said, there are different ways to
Speaker 3: lead and you have to understand who you're trying to
Speaker 3: talk to because everybody. You can't talk to everybody the
Speaker 3: same way. Some guys you can be turn with some guys,
Speaker 3: you can be facetious. With some guys you be like, damn, bro,
Speaker 3: my my grandma could have caught that one.
Speaker 2: That damn son.
Speaker 3: You out here like a blind dog in the meat house.
Speaker 3: You know, you're saying things and you're like, well, bro,
Speaker 3: what what you do last night? So you know, you
Speaker 3: try to you try to lead guys in a way
Speaker 3: that they understand that because I'm trying to get a
Speaker 3: guy to do more than he thought he could.
Speaker 1: That's at the end of the day, that's that's really
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do. I am look, I ain't
Speaker 1: trying to look. I'm not your pastor, I'm not your
Speaker 1: guidance counseling, I'm not your sight. I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: get you to do more than you think you can
Speaker 1: and whatever ways I need to do that without you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna belittle you. I'm not gonna mowfo you
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, were all men.
Speaker 1: Don't lose sight of that now, now, don't ever don't
Speaker 1: ever ever lose sight of that. You might have more
Speaker 1: tenure than me, you might make more money than me.
Speaker 1: But guess how I walked in here as a twenty
Speaker 1: two year old man. I guess I'm gonna walk out
Speaker 1: of here as a thirty year old man. Now if
Speaker 1: I have to take our ass cutting or you have
Speaker 1: to take our ass cutting to see, it is what
Speaker 1: it is. But I'm gonna be you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be respectful of you. I want you to be respectful
Speaker 1: of me, because at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 1: all about respect. That's what it's about, Gil, it really is.
Speaker 2: But in the NBA, it's it's it's it's power, right,
Speaker 2: and the star player has the power.
Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes if the star player is not
Speaker 1: the leader, the leader don't have no power. He's gonna
Speaker 1: have to shut up a little bit, right again, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Depending on who you are, depending
Speaker 1: on how mentally weak your star player is, you being
Speaker 1: the leader of that team, you leading everybody but him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: in locker rooms, right, locker locker like even with with
Speaker 1: with with someone like Kevin, your leadership is depicted on
Speaker 1: the personality is in this locker room if the person
Speaker 1: that is in his locker room is soft and you
Speaker 1: a rock rock guy, you you don't want to be
Speaker 1: the black guy in the white room because they looking
Speaker 1: at you like lunch. But it's more of them. There's
Speaker 1: moy it's more of them, right, and you you the
Speaker 1: person that stands out.
Speaker 2: They want you out. So sometimes you got to bite
Speaker 2: your tongues. Pat Bev he can't be Pat Bev every
Speaker 2: team he go to.
Speaker 1: He maybe just one guy. He gets to be pat
Speaker 1: bed with one guy. For the most part. He has
Speaker 1: to pick and choose who he gets to bring that
Speaker 1: energy jam. Right, So you know that the the the
Speaker 1: NBA locker room is not like football. Right, we might
Speaker 1: be tight as hell. You missed me or missed the
Speaker 1: shot and I said something that you didn't like. That
Speaker 1: right there, broke the friendship up. I want you off
Speaker 1: this team.
Speaker 2: Damn. It's me the man, and it's me that me
Speaker 2: or him. Hell now, I mean we understand, you know,
Speaker 2: we understand. Guys go drop a pass, especially in a
Speaker 2: crucial situation.
Speaker 3: My thing is that always Look, let's not put ourselves
Speaker 3: in a situation where a miscall or a call that
Speaker 3: goes against.
Speaker 2: Us, or drop or this.
Speaker 3: Doesn't cost us a game. So if we keep ourselves
Speaker 3: out of those situations, we'll be fine. We put out
Speaker 3: you know the thing that might used to always tell
Speaker 3: us saying we put ourselves in this situation. We should
Speaker 3: have put this game away long long ago. But I
Speaker 3: think the thing is is that for me, like when
Speaker 3: I got to Baltimore, I understood the assignment. I understood
Speaker 3: why I was there because Ozzie and they really felt
Speaker 3: that they had a team that could contend, but they
Speaker 3: just needed, you know, somebody on the offensive side that
Speaker 3: had success, that was voke. That team was already was
Speaker 3: very vocal. They hadn't won anything, but they were prime.
Speaker 3: And I think the thing is Ray and Rod were
Speaker 3: already there.
Speaker 2: I knew Ray.
Speaker 3: I knew Rod a little bit because he came in
Speaker 3: the league in eighty seven. I came in in ninety.
Speaker 3: We had made a couple of Pro Bowls together, so
Speaker 3: I kind of knew him a little bit. I didn't
Speaker 3: really know Ray, even though we had made a Pro
Speaker 3: Bowl together. But I think the thing is is that
Speaker 3: our friendship because yeah, I mean we went, we went
Speaker 3: five weeks, We just scored a touchdown, and so it
Speaker 3: could have easily split at the scenes. But I just
Speaker 3: remember having a conversation with with Ray and with sug
Speaker 3: and Wooded. I was like, guess what the best thing
Speaker 3: about football. They don't take They don't take units to
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, they take teams and unless we get
Speaker 3: better on our side of the ball, which we will,
Speaker 3: And so we stayed together because that could have part.
Speaker 3: I mean, they're holding people to ten points and we
Speaker 3: losing the game, like, oh, bro, and then once we
Speaker 3: got it going, and you know, they's like, Shape, if
Speaker 3: y'all give us ten points early, it's over.
Speaker 2: I said, man, Bro, we're in the playoffs. These are
Speaker 2: the best team that say Shape give us ten early.
Speaker 2: It was Curtains. But you have to you do.
Speaker 3: I mean, but you have to pick and choose how
Speaker 3: you lead people because everybody doesn't receive what you're giving
Speaker 3: the same way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some people to tune your ass out. Some people
Speaker 2: might want to lump your ass up. Our trick.
Speaker 1: Our trick is because everything is moving so fast that
Speaker 1: we spend a lot of time with each other off
Speaker 1: the court.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we're making sure we go to movies, dinners
Speaker 2: like New Year's.
Speaker 1: Somebody like I'll hosted New Year's party at the uh at.
Speaker 2: My house, right, Uh, when we go on the road,
Speaker 2: like we're gonna all be playing in each other's rooms.
Speaker 1: Right, We made sure so we had the friendship so
Speaker 1: tight off the floor whatever on the court, we let
Speaker 1: it go there, right, Okay, yeah, clash man, I ain't
Speaker 1: giving you nothing to day.
Speaker 2: Like you ain't got it right? Are you just a
Speaker 2: mama's boy? It didn't.
Speaker 1: It didn't affect like that real time trash talking. You
Speaker 1: haven't somebody trying to talk to you and you know
Speaker 1: you get to going right. That didn't affect us, right,
Speaker 1: So it was very it's very important for NBA players
Speaker 1: to have a real friendship off because.
Speaker 2: In real time, in real time, we.
Speaker 1: Were on edge all day in games, right, saying something
Speaker 1: to this person, this person saying something we going here.
Speaker 2: I missed three free throws or something. You come on, dude,
Speaker 2: come on, what you mean? Come on? You just got
Speaker 2: in the game, right, it be, it'd be. You know,
Speaker 2: the tension is so high that.
Speaker 1: That we don't lose respect for each other during during
Speaker 1: those heated those heated battles, the Celtics True Holiday agreed to.
Speaker 3: A four year one hundred and thirty five million dollar
Speaker 3: contract extension. Holiday becomes the fourth player to sign a
Speaker 3: guarantee a deal worth at least one hundred million dollars
Speaker 3: at the age of thirty three or older. Lebron James,
Speaker 3: Steph Curry and I bet you won't guess who the
Speaker 3: fourth player is. Holiday is one, Lebron is two, Steph
Speaker 3: Curry is three.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Can you guess that'll be Kevin Durant. Nope, that's signed.
Speaker 3: Amazing, he signed an at least one hundred million dollar
Speaker 3: deal at the age of one, at the age of
Speaker 3: thirty three or older.
Speaker 1: Oh age of thirty three and older, so he had
Speaker 1: to sign them within the last two three years. When
Speaker 1: that'd be Chris Paul Nope, No, I mean An Horford.
Speaker 1: I'll still in the league. Man, still a still catching
Speaker 1: the chicks.
Speaker 2: I know I'll be forgetting man. I was old eight
Speaker 2: years ago, man Our Horford. The Celtics.
Speaker 3: Jayalen Brown will make forty nine point three million, Jason
Speaker 3: Taytor will make thirty four point eight million, Holiday will
Speaker 3: make thirty point one million, Christoph Pazingers will make twenty
Speaker 3: nine point two million, and Derrick White will make nineteen
Speaker 3: point five million, that's the starting lineup.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I listen, he lives around the corner.
Speaker 1: He's he's a valley guy who there Holiday Holliday boys
Speaker 1: is from the valley. I don't know if I am
Speaker 1: this right now, right right now?
Speaker 2: The reason is who is better right now between him
Speaker 2: and White?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: I know White numbers is better right now? White is
Speaker 1: about what four years younger, play the same type of game.
Speaker 1: Could I do better with that money and in free agency?
Speaker 1: And that would have been my thing? Right?
Speaker 2: Can I do better with this money? Can I get
Speaker 2: a Klay Thompson as a premier? He coming to the Lakers?
Speaker 1: Huh Now, I'm just saying it seemed like he likes
Speaker 1: shooting a staple, So we're gonna break his.
Speaker 2: Lands here and they play forty two games in staples.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, right now he's going rate
Speaker 1: four years forty four years sixty.
Speaker 2: Right, I'll saved myself a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Right, I got a guy who plays Deeper's got a
Speaker 1: guy who who hits the shot, he knows how to move.
Speaker 2: You know what other free agents is.
Speaker 1: Out that I can I can get? I mean Drew
Speaker 1: Holiday having this twelve, five and four. He's a two
Speaker 1: way player. But I have that and and I had
Speaker 1: the same thing in White. White is gonna be up
Speaker 1: a year from now. Then you have Jason Tatum.
Speaker 3: I gotta pay jes get damn near where they say
Speaker 3: Luca can get command the highest contract by three eighty
Speaker 3: four hundred million, But Jason Tatum is gonna be right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I got I got money, So I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm guaranteeing. I mean, it's not a bad deal, right,
Speaker 1: It's not a bad deal for me. You know, this
Speaker 1: is one of these I guess this is one of
Speaker 1: those deals where he's such a good guy, probably good
Speaker 1: guy in the locker room. Yes, he's he's he's sacrificing
Speaker 1: for the betterment of the team.
Speaker 2: He definitely sacrificing his OFFSI he might be.
Speaker 1: One of those like I know, I understand those deals
Speaker 1: where but I mean, Boston screwed a lot of people
Speaker 1: over so this would have been just an other one
Speaker 1: of those type of players that you could have screwed
Speaker 1: and went into free agency to see what you can do.
Speaker 2: But you know he's earned the money. You know this
Speaker 2: is you know this is one of those things. Is uh.
Speaker 1: He's a two time All Star, five time defensive player,
Speaker 1: first team last year.
Speaker 2: He's playing great this year.
Speaker 1: They even elevated, you know, one hundred and thirty five
Speaker 1: with the max being three eighty.
Speaker 2: He's worth it, He's worth it.
Speaker 3: Dave Magazine rate the top challengers to the Celtics in
Speaker 3: the East Playoffs. Number one was Milwaukee. Boom Dame Magazine
Speaker 3: ranked the top challengers to the Celtics. Like the guys
Speaker 3: like d im e Yeah, Dan Magazine.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you the top five.
Speaker 3: Milwaukee was one, the seventy six Ers was two, the
Speaker 3: Knicks were three, the Heat were four, Orlando Magic five.
Speaker 1: What seems out of place? Do you you given Giannis
Speaker 1: his injury bucks should be nine?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh see uh?
Speaker 1: Jet Magazine, Uh, Jet Magazine did they tip five?
Speaker 2: They got? Uh?
Speaker 1: He won next to Philly three Magic four bucks five.
Speaker 1: I'm saying Joeling, if Joeling bed is.
Speaker 3: Gonna stay healthy, Joeling bead is the number one thread
Speaker 3: to the sixers, to the to the to the to
Speaker 3: me something is the number one three to the self.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, lunch me, no, no, no, not with Tyres
Speaker 2: Max and him. Oh no, oh, I was on him.
Speaker 2: Who our offer? Hey man, that's your cook as Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I don't even know if
Speaker 1: MBAT has beaten Boston Phillip Cheese. State what you want
Speaker 1: on it? Uh, he won't cheeze wins what you want Listen.
Speaker 1: He tried to bring out in to help him get
Speaker 1: past Boss. That's one like I'm not, I'm not.
Speaker 2: That's one team he don't want to play. I want
Speaker 2: to with.
Speaker 3: Tyris MAXI I Likebrebrain's been a very very sneaky life.
Speaker 3: A nice addition. I still I still don't know what
Speaker 3: happened on that bicycle. But that's neither here North there.
Speaker 3: That's theother here nor there. We're gonna let that go, Gil,
Speaker 3: We're gonna let that go. We don't know what happened,
Speaker 3: but he he's back. He's back now. But man, man,
Speaker 3: miss miss practiced, mister Gabe, so he got ran over.
Speaker 2: Ain't no bit.
Speaker 3: Now you know all these streets, these major major cities
Speaker 3: got CCTV everywhere. Ain't nobody got no cell phone video,
Speaker 3: Ain't nobody got no dashcam video, Ain't got nobody got
Speaker 3: no gold pro video.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody got no video or nothing. All they do
Speaker 1: is see if coming in coming into his building with
Speaker 1: a bicycle on the shower. Hey, it happened now, But
Speaker 1: look I got heat. I mean he knows how to
Speaker 1: play them well, right, you know he has been been
Speaker 1: having a number. The reason I say that Knicks is
Speaker 1: Knicks is the defensive team. Boston is a jump shooting team, right,
Speaker 1: they they love the jumper.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: You got someone like Brunson controlling the game, making it
Speaker 1: a half court game. That could be a good series.
Speaker 1: I got Philly third. And the reason I got Philly
Speaker 1: third is you know they do have him bid, but
Speaker 1: Embiid is not as healthy as he was when he
Speaker 1: was getting his ads well by Boston. But they do
Speaker 1: have him b right, So usually Embiid is going to
Speaker 1: give you about thirty two to thirty three and twelve
Speaker 1: against them.
Speaker 2: Not good enough, right, It's not good enough to be Boston.
Speaker 3: Now, what we need Maxic Maxic shipping to give us
Speaker 3: twenty five and we get oubreak, give us eighteen. Tobias
Speaker 3: Harris gonna give us Tobias get you'll finally earn that
Speaker 3: that Max contract he got and give us fourteen.
Speaker 1: Well, you don't watch Pussing Boots, you doesn't watch the
Speaker 1: last just make all kind of wishes. Nah No, that's
Speaker 1: not how this works. And Bid usually tries to play
Speaker 1: this game one on one because he thinks he's the
Speaker 1: best player in the series and he can beat him
Speaker 1: by hisself. And that's what usually happens in this series
Speaker 1: against them, and it's always happened those last five minutes.
Speaker 1: He refuses to pass the ball to anybody else, and
Speaker 1: that's what Boston plays on that embiid is gonna do it.
Speaker 1: But and b does and try to go for like
Speaker 1: I b needs to literally average about thirty nine and fourteen.
Speaker 1: He has to go above and beyond against Boston. All
Speaker 1: I need is ty Reeves Maxley to be ty Reeve Maxy.
Speaker 1: That's all I need Tyreese Maxy to do.
Speaker 3: In b gonna give me thirty five, Tyreez Maxy, give
Speaker 3: me twenty five, Ubra, give me eighteen to twenty.
Speaker 2: Uh Tobias, give me fourteen to sixteen. Oh here goes hey.
Speaker 1: Then then they have to do what they did with
Speaker 1: which you would red Hea, just give it to me
Speaker 1: in the first.
Speaker 2: Let me speak to you for a little bit you go.
Speaker 6: Numbers.
Speaker 1: You just said it's gonna have to be in the
Speaker 1: third by the third quarter, because once the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: show to beat it. Uh.