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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, home of the

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Speaker 1: modern white tail hunter and now your host, Mark Kenyon.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyan, and today in the show, I am recounting

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Speaker 1: the wild, wild adventures I had chasing white tails across

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Speaker 1: the plains of Nebraska on the ground, trying to decoy

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Speaker 1: them in at ground level with my buddy Tony treech

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by First Light. We are continuing our series

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Speaker 1: here recounting my trips this past fall um where I

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Speaker 1: have been meeting up with different regional experts or subject experts,

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Speaker 1: or different style of hunting experts, and you know, spending

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Speaker 1: a few days learning how they do what they do

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Speaker 1: in this specific area and then trying it out myself.

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Speaker 1: So I told the story in last week's episode about

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Speaker 1: what I did in Washington, d C. Learning how to

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Speaker 1: hunt in the suburbs. Today, I want to tell you

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Speaker 1: about another one of my hunts in which I went

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Speaker 1: nomad of sorts. This is a guy who works during

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Speaker 1: all fall and hunt across the country, hunting, public land hunting,

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Speaker 1: knock on door stuff hunting, Kansas, Nebraska, Colorado, Montana. I mean,

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Speaker 1: wyoming all over the place Kansas, um chasing white tails, elk, mule, deer, everything.

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Speaker 1: But when it comes to white tails, he not only

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Speaker 1: to kick his ass and then he shoots him before

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Speaker 1: they do. That is what I wanted to learned about.

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Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to try doing, and Tony Trich

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Speaker 1: was the man to teach me. So in the second

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Speaker 1: week in November, I traveled out there in Nebraska, met

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Speaker 1: up with Tony and did it. Spend a day and

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Speaker 1: of how he got into the style of hunting. We're

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Speaker 1: the things that you need to be thinking about when

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk through what I did day by day,

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Speaker 1: and tell me if I did anything wrong, if there's

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Speaker 1: things I could have done differently, um, et cetera, see

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Speaker 1: if we can learn some stuff from this super crazy experience.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this was some of the most fun I've

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Speaker 1: be Bobby Jared. He was one of the cameramen that

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Speaker 1: things he saw too. So that's today's episode. A lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. Um. This is something I will definitely be

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Speaker 1: the story and watch the episode next year. So without

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Speaker 1: All right, so joining me now on the line to

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Speaker 1: continue this story is Tony Treach and Bobby Jerreed. Thank

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Speaker 1: you both for making the time to get back together

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Speaker 1: again and relive our Nebraska adventures. Yeah, thanks for having me, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: scided thanks. Yeah. So here's where I want to start.

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Speaker 1: You know, when we when we began this trip, we

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Speaker 1: That's a I don't know. Every time we we talked

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Speaker 1: close you try to get to him, anything else. I mean,

430
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: like you said, they're more apt to circle down wind. Um,

431
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: what else factors in when you've got that scenari Because

432
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: I ended up being the scenario that I had a

433
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: lot um more so than bucks of the does yep, well,

434
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: it's it usually doesn't happen. I can say that right

435
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: now because I usually don't. Uh. In the books I'm

436
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to hunt and kill. Are are going

437
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: to be the most mature in dominant bucks in areas.

438
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: So in November, there's always gonna be a hot dough somewhere.

439
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: He's going to be the one with her, so I

440
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: heard they ever, I mean, I've had all all kinds

441
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: of bucks that I don't want to kill. Uh, As

442
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: I'm moving in, come and see me, and I usually

443
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: that see me and hopefully run the other way. It

444
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,239
Speaker 1: depends on I guess on which side of me they

445
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 1: are compared to the buck that I'm trying to move

446
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: in on. But I don't. I can't think of any

447
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: maybe one situation where I've had a really big book. Uh,

448
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: as I'm moving, you know, like you know, basically in

449
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: or still hunting an area, I saw him and was

450
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: able to kind of move in and use a decoy.

451
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: You typically, uh, it's not happening, and I'm waiting until

452
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: he's better with her. But I but from the experience

453
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: I've had, but those those subordinate books that are just

454
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: trusing around, Um, it's kind of a craft shoot because again,

455
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 1: you're moving and there's you. It's a shot at best

456
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: that you're gonna see them before they see you. Uh,

457
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: And you don't want to just be walking around the decoy,

458
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: you know, stuck to each shoulder and in front of

459
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: and behind you see you look like a deer from

460
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: all four sides. I mean, someone's bad. Bad things are

461
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: gonna happen. So I just don't know how. There's a

462
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: lot of things that could go wrong with that. I

463
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 1: just don't I I wouldn't have I wouldn't advise. I'd

464
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: say a deal last case scenario where you're moving and

465
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: trying to pick up other moving bucks too. But uh,

466
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: but I think you know, in that case, it does

467
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: allow you a little bit more of a little bit

468
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: more time because you know, you know, even if they

469
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 1: see you. And I've had this happened at Bucks and os,

470
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: they here I'm walking in and or walking even to

471
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: a glassing point and Drupada has picked me off, and

472
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: I you know, like I hunger down real quick and

473
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: pick up and just pull up the decoy, and they might.

474
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: You know, I've had him just blow out. I've had

475
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: him standing there and stop and then go back to feeding.

476
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: I've had him try to walk right to me. I've

477
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: had a little bit of everything. So it does sometimes

478
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: allow you a little bit more you know, I can

479
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: get out of jail free card. Uh if if if

480
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: something does see you. But again it's you're not putting

481
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: the odds in your favor by by by using it

482
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: that way. In my opinion, um So then what about

483
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: the the whole situation with calling, because sometimes I know

484
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: you talked about that's a way that you can kind

485
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: of when things aren't perfectly working out in your favor.

486
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 1: You can't go quite close enough, or you know, maybe

487
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: you haven't spotted a buck with a dope, but you

488
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: find a brushing, nasty looking area, you'll try some stuff

489
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: like that could you elaborate a little bit off how

490
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: calling might fit into some of these circumstances that you

491
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: you'll sometimes try. Sure, it's not it's not much any

492
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: different really than than any other time you're gonna be

493
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: brattling or calling, you know, trying to treat a scenario

494
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: to too lure a buck in. But what you're what

495
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: you're giving him as a a visual uh to add

496
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: to the the lure. And the one thing that the

497
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: handheld decoys I think offers you over like a stationary.

498
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, I've used them together to

499
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: like I've used My dad last year killed his biggest

500
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: white tail in Kansas, and he had both. He had

501
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: to hands up, you know, heads up, decoly in his

502
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: hand that he could slash the bug and give that

503
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: motion to that motion sometime is key. And then he

504
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: also had a stage nary a little buck out in

505
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: front of him. But having that ability to to just

506
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: you know, raise the raise the book, decoy, lower the books,

507
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: decoy um sometimes all they need. Because you know we've

508
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: all seen the white tail buck you know this season

509
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: comes in, you're rattling, he stops a hundred yards, he

510
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: just stares stares at you it just does not move

511
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: for you know, you know, ten minutes, fifteen minutes, just

512
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: just does not move. If he given that last little

513
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: piece in the pie, like there's stuff going on over here,

514
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: you know he can hear it. He can you know,

515
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: we'll hopefully can't still it, but he if he can

516
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: just see it something that makes them think, I gotta

517
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: get over there and check that out. Ye, it's happening.

518
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: I think it's helped me a lot. In no way,

519
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: let's fast forward from that first morning we spent together.

520
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: You know, it was a lot of glass and hiking.

521
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: We saw that buck, sawesome dough so a couple other

522
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: bucks way off in the distance on some private land. Um.

523
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: But basically coming out of that day, we decided, you

524
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: know what, you know, probably want to move on to

525
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: something different. UM. Now, I had thought we we one

526
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: of the guys in our crew had been able to

527
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: chat with a neighbor on some of that private lane

528
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: and it sounded like we might be able to get

529
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: permission to hunt those fields where we saw the good

530
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: bucks the night before. But that ended up falling through.

531
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: So you were going to head to Colorado and we

532
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: were gonna keep hunting. I wasn'tna keep hunting on my own,

533
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: and so I decided to pull the plug on this

534
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: first spot and go check out this other piece of

535
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: public land that I thought had potential. Um you had

536
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: talked in the past about, you know, how you move

537
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: around a lot when you're hunting like this, this way,

538
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: you have a lot of different locations. Can you speak

539
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: to just a little bit about your perspective on how

540
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: long you'll give a zone or a piece of property

541
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: or a public parcel before you decide now it's not

542
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: for me and move on. Because because we basically gave this,

543
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: you know, a night in the morning plus the evening

544
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: before scotting that you did, and you know, within that

545
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: day and a half of not seeing what we're looking for,

546
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: I decided to get out of Dodge. But what else

547
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: are you thinking about when making those kinds of decisions. Well,

548
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: first off, you gotta find terrain. That's if you can't,

549
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: if you can't see them where they're sleeping, you're you're

550
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: behind nate ball already. It's going to be tough to

551
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: to to put the scenario together. You know it make

552
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: it work if you if you if you can't bed them,

553
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: if if you're not able to find where they're sleeping,

554
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: where they're bed it, it's going to be tough. Um.

555
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: So I look for those areas. I you know, I

556
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 1: want to be able to get to high points, uh

557
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: and be able to find deer in their beds. They're

558
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: going to their beds, and then you know that's that's

559
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: really everything. So after two you know, a night, I

560
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: guess I was there the day before, So I had

561
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: two nights and two evenings in that area. H I

562
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: mean I think you would ask me one time what

563
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: would I do? And it was very I mean, it

564
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: wasn't no hesitations, like I'm out, this is this areas? Well?

565
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: There are bucks there, I mean in decent you know,

566
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: uh Nebraska public land bucks. But I you know, you're

567
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: you're better off. You'd have been better off hanging a

568
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: set or or using your saddle whatever, your little hutting

569
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: them in a different way in one of those little

570
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: bottoms there. So to do what we wanted to do, yeah,

571
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: I was all about moving in that you know, the

572
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: area you had described to the north little bit there

573
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 1: sounded promising. Yeah, yeah, and so that's what I decided

574
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: to do. Um, me and Bobby and tyler load of

575
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: the truck and just high tailed it to get out

576
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: of there and try to get to this new spot

577
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: while we'd still have a little bit of daylight so

578
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: we could glass this area. And this this new area

579
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: is going to head to was big open prairie hills,

580
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: and then there was a river bottom that went down

581
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: through the middle of all this prairie and and I

582
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: knew that they would probably be a good amount of

583
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: white tail action in that river bottom. And I thought

584
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: they might come up into the grassy hills too, And

585
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: I figured between those two things, we would, you know,

586
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: be able to have some degree of visibility and be

587
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 1: able to use the decoy. That was my hope. Um. Now,

588
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: the one limiting factor was was that I wasn't sure

589
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: if they would use the hills and the grassy areas

590
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: much I knew they would use the river bottom. Now,

591
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: the thing about this piece of public was that it

592
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: was only a little knob that went into the river

593
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: that was actually public. Probably I don't know, less than

594
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: forty acres might have been are or something like that

595
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: that was in the river bottom. Now, there was thousands

596
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: and thousands of the prairie stuff around it, though, so

597
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: that was what I was working with, and my plan

598
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: was to high tail it. We drove way down these

599
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: back road to track things to get to this little

600
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: area that I thought would have white tails. Me, Bobby,

601
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: and Tyler went it was, And then uh, well we hiked.

602
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: We had to leave our vehicle in place and then

603
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: hike in like a mile or so to get to

604
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: the river from the farthest we could get with the truck. Um, Bobby,

605
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: how how do you feel about my hight my walking?

606
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: You guys had some opinions on my walking to our

607
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: punt location. Man. Yeah, me and Tyler the other camera guy.

608
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: We we definitely kept up, but we were like jogging

609
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: at Mark's walking stride. I think we had both commented

610
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: on how he should look into competitive speed walking. Um.

611
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was like a long sandy double track

612
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: and we were moving. We were cruising, trying to get

613
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: there before we got dark. And to make a long

614
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: story short, that first night, we got there in time

615
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: to probably sit for what would you say, Bob, like

616
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: an hour four or five minutes something like that of daylight. Yeah,

617
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: no more than an hour, I wouldn't think. And so

618
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: we got on this hill that overlooked the river bottom,

619
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: and from this ridge you could see a long distance.

620
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean you could see a lot of the hills

621
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: on the opposite side, which was private land, and then

622
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: you could see the river bottom right beneath us that

623
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: was public, and then more river on either side or

624
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: more bottom that was private as well. So that was

625
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: the The good thing is it was a lot of

626
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: good looking country. The bad thing was that there was

627
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: just a small part that we could actually hunt. Um.

628
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: So I when I got there and was kind of

629
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: looking at what we could see, and I was thinking, Okay,

630
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: this could maybe worked. But the big thing is like,

631
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: will these bucks come on the public side? Um? All

632
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: the private stuff looked great, there was just this one

633
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: little kind of peninsula that was actually accessible by us.

634
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: Would they would they be in there and or would

635
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: they be up in the prairie hills behind us? That

636
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: would give us lots of options. And long story short

637
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: is that that that hour of glass and that night

638
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: we had two things confirmed. Number One, we saw bucks.

639
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: We saw a really nice, tight and tall a pointer

640
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: on the private land across the river, like definite mature,

641
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: really nice buck like very very tall. Um Like I

642
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: don't know twelve thirteen inch g three's and two's um

643
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: but tight maybe twelve inches wide. Um, but a super

644
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: cool buck. And um then it lasts light like right

645
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: at dark, I saw buck directly underneath us on the

646
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: public land. He popped out of some cedars. It was

647
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: walking directly underneath us. But it was like shooting light

648
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: ended like right as I was seeing this buck, or

649
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: what's gonna end in just like a minute or two

650
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: and so I remember looking at him. I was like, gosh,

651
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: is there any chance that we could make a play

652
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 1: on him? And like the next sixty seconds to two

653
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: minutes and just there there wasn't a way it would work. Um.

654
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: But seeing a good shooter buck, like a hundred thirty

655
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: class buck maybe you know somewhere in that ballpark, um,

656
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: that moved on the public land made me think, Okay,

657
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: we have a chance here. And basically my idea once

658
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: I saw this landscape in person, and then the next

659
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: morning when we returned, it seemed like this was the

660
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: situation we would have. It was gonna be a little

661
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: bit different than what you do, Tony. Um. Just by

662
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: necessity of what we had to work with. We just

663
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of ground where these white tails were.

664
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: But I could see like there was a lot of

665
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: white tails using this river bottom, and by staying up

666
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: high on these you know, on the side of the valley,

667
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: you could look down and see quite a bit of country.

668
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: There was these scattered pockets cedars and then meadows and

669
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: open grassy stuff. So my thought was, if we sit

670
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: up on these kind of glassing knobs and wait, if

671
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: we spot a buck come onto the public, I bet

672
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: I'd have time to drop down the side of the ridge,

673
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: get into the bottom, and get into position to intercept.

674
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: And so I was gonna kind of, you know, hope

675
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: for a situation where I saw buck, lock down the

676
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: dough and watch them bed um. But if not, maybe

677
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: I could intercept a buck like when I saw that

678
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: first night. Um. And so that's what we decided to

679
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: try on the next day when I went back to

680
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: actually hunt, Um hiked in there, you know before first light,

681
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: got to that glassing knob overlooking the valley. Um, and

682
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: and just figure we'd post up and watch, And we

683
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: ended up shifting our glassing location. I don't know, Bobby,

684
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: what do you think maybe hundred fifty yards down maybe, Yeah,

685
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: we found this spot where basically had the best visibility

686
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: of the entire peninsula that was public, while also being

687
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: able to see a lot on the private And um,

688
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: today you forgot your stuff. I don't know, there's been

689
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: so many times that's had. Yeah, I think that was it.

690
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: I got all the way so the mile hike to

691
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: the river bottom. I get there, it's almost daylight, and

692
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: then I realized I didn't have my range finder or

693
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: my binoculars and something else I can't remember what it was.

694
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: And I just thought, man, I don't I don't want

695
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: to be here all day without my range finder, without binos,

696
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: like we're just doing glassing all day. Um, so I

697
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: literally ran. In this case, I ran a mile back

698
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: to the truck to get my stuff and then ran

699
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: all the way back to try to get to the

700
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: glass and night before shooting Lay, Um, I forgot about

701
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: that about it was mr. I think I think I

702
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: made it like just a little after shooting Lay. I

703
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: didn't missed too much. Um yeah, it wasn't bad, but

704
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: it was a suffer fest of a of a trail

705
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: run in my hunting gear and all that stuff. But uh,

706
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: but you know that first day it was still like

707
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: questionable if it was gonna work. Like we could see

708
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: a good area and we were seeing deer, but most

709
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: of them were in the private I mean, I think,

710
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: if I recall, right, Bobby, that first morning we did

711
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: see one like decent buck. And I should add here

712
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: that given the fact that I only really had three

713
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: days to hunt, um, my standards were much lower than

714
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: you know, what I would use on what I would

715
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: be shooting for most hunts, and you know, very different

716
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: than yours, Tony. So in this case, I was thinking,

717
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: you know what, I love to shoot him ature buck

718
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: like a three or four plus year old, dear, but

719
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: to pull it off on any deer, you know, like

720
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: a two year old or anything like that would be

721
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: pretty sweet, just to pull it off. So I decided,

722
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, that second day that I'm just gonna try

723
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: to get anything and just see, you know, if maybe

724
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: we can get a younger but curious with it enough. Um,

725
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: And I guess that was something that we talked about

726
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: a little bit. You've seen that usually these big mature

727
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: bucks locked on doose are the ones that are most

728
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: apt to respond to the decoy. But what do you

729
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: think about was I was I stupid to try to

730
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: do this on two year old bucks or three year

731
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: old bucks or younger. Oh no, no, I've there's been

732
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: lots of situations where, like I said, when I'm moving

733
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: in and I see a little buck or even even

734
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: like a hundred and forty class white tail is just

735
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, only a three year old or something that

736
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: I just don't want to kill, and I'll show him that.

737
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: I'll use the decoy just to keep from blowing out

738
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: because maybe they're too close to the you know, the

739
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: buck I want, and they'll just come right over to you.

740
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: But they're they just they just do it in a

741
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: different manner. They're not coming over there to kick your ass.

742
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: They're just coming there to see what you are are.

743
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: And I mean I've had lots of them, uh you know,

744
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: and I usually try to record it of my phones

745
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: because it's hilarious. But they'll just, I mean, they'll get

746
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: right on top of you, like I've had them. I

747
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: don't even know how many I've had within ten feet

748
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: and there. Then they get to a point where it's

749
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: like they want they're like they kind of get pissed

750
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: because like move You're like you're not doing anything like

751
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: like show me something, you know, do something, and then

752
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: usually they always circle down win when when that happens,

753
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: and then they just you know, blow up as soon

754
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: as they hit that that sent But but those those

755
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: two and a half and even some three and a half,

756
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: when that happens, they you know, they get tight, they

757
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: walk up and they blow up, and then they'll almost

758
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: always stop. They run, but they in the back of

759
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: their mind like but that was a deer, and they

760
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: almost always stop in like thirty yards and turn the

761
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: back like are you sure you're a human, And I mean,

762
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: if you really want them, you could have them. It

763
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: that's interesting. Um, I kind of want to fast forward

764
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: to some of my close encounters to see what you

765
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: think about what I did and how they turned out,

766
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: because because what you're describing here is is pretty similar

767
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: some of the stuff I saw, Um you know that

768
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: that day I guess to to hit fast forward. Basically,

769
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 1: I did see one good buck come on the public land,

770
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: not a big, big one, but like a two year

771
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: old two year old probably, and I snuck down to

772
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: the bottom and tried to get ahead of where I

773
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: thought he was going, and he never popped out. So

774
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: then I tried rattling never popped out. Um, he just disappeared.

775
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: So I went back up to the top, and then later,

776
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: like a half hour later, something else, like a an

777
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: even smaller buck popped out, was down in the bottom

778
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: where I thought we definitely could intercept him, and so

779
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: I figure, well, we'll at least try just to see

780
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: what happens. So I went down on that one, and

781
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: he did end up popping out, saw the decoy um,

782
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: but just stared at it for a while and just

783
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: didn't like it, and he went off the other direction. Um.

784
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: That was the extent of like being counters that first day,

785
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: like on the public land, but we did have a

786
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: lot of excitement Like midday, like noon on the private land,

787
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: just across the river, I looked across and saw some

788
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: white tails pulled out the buyos and there's a buck

789
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: and another buck and another buck and another buck, and

790
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 1: it'd been six bucks on a dough and just full

791
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: blown rut fest. And one of them was that really tight,

792
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: really tall one, and another one was like a solid

793
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 1: like four year old type one thirties something type buck,

794
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: and then a couple like nice you know, smaller two

795
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: or three year old deer um and they were just

796
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: getting after the bucks were tussling, and there was like

797
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: one guy that was in charge with the dough of course,

798
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: and he was fending off all the other all the

799
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: other uh people trying to get in on his girl.

800
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: And then they're running all over the place. And so

801
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: I made a move down there to to get as

802
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: close as I col get to it, just in case

803
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: they happened to cross the river in the public but

804
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: in that situation they just never did. Um. But it

805
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: was cool to see them and cool to see that

806
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: was going on, and I was just thinking, man, if

807
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: if if only this could happen on my side of

808
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: the river, I'd actually have a chance maybe. Um. So

809
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: now fast forward to the next day we I saw

810
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: one of I saw those deer cruising. I saw that

811
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: big eight point again later that day cruising on the

812
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: private but had no actual huntable deer. Go back the

813
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: next morning, get back to that glassing now, but first light,

814
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: and right at first light, basically what we did we

815
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: would get to the ridge and stay on the back

816
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: side of it until you could actually see and then

817
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: once it was shooting light, I pop over the edge

818
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: so we could see down it. And um, you know

819
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: that way, we wouldn't be spooking anything before we could

820
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 1: see what was down there. Get over the edge, look

821
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: down and in the bottom right beneath me is a

822
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: shooter Like right away on public land, there's a buck

823
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: right there. Um, do you remember this moment? Like what Bobby,

824
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: what were you thinking in that moment when I peeked

825
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: over the edge and like, shooter buck right there? We

826
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: gotta go? Yeah, and that was that was exciting and

827
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: just like oh crap, here we go. And it was

828
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: it was just like fairly legal light and fairly enough

829
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: light to the cameras to even pick anything up. But um,

830
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: I managed to sneak over when you guys drop down

831
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: and get a good look at it, and um, it

832
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,959
Speaker 1: was like right there. It was pretty cool. It was nuts.

833
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: So basically that deer when we spotted it was maybe

834
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: a hundred yards away but down on the bottom, and

835
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, we were I don't know how high we're up,

836
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: maybe a hundred feet of elevation maybe something like that. Um, yeah, yeah,

837
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 1: And so what I needed to do was take basically

838
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: I had you, Bobby, stay up top. You had a

839
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: long lens like zoom camera lens on your camera, so

840
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: what we end up doing Tony was Bobby end up

841
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: staying up high and filming from a distance, and then

842
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: Tyler would be with me close and we would go

843
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: on on these stocks and the Bobby would film from

844
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: up there. So me and Tyler navigated down and take

845
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,959
Speaker 1: a little tight coolie of sorts, like it's a little

846
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: tight draw that had cedars in it where I could

847
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: slip up into that and and get to the bottom

848
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: without this buck being able to see us. So I

849
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: do that. We sneak down the hill, get down to

850
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: the bottom. We peek out around these cedars into the

851
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: open meadow where the buck is. And by the time

852
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: I got there, that buck was moving and I just

853
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: was able to catch him like walking away, just getting

854
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: behind the next row of cedars, Like I don't know,

855
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: he was probably a hundred a hundred yards away from

856
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: me now at that point, maybe a little bit more

857
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: walking away and gone behind this line of trees. So

858
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: like I described as a hundred yard meadow now between

859
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: where I was and where he was. So my thought

860
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: process in this moment is, Okay, I need to get

861
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: his attention somehow, and I need to get him to

862
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: come back into this opening and if I can do that,

863
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: and if I'm set up in the right way, he

864
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: might pop back out see the decoy coming. So I

865
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: sprinted into the meadow and wanted to close as much

866
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: of that distance as I possibly could. So I think

867
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: I had like maybe fifty sixty yards that I could

868
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: cover until got to the last little isolated tree. And

869
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,959
Speaker 1: there's like one cedar in the middle of that meadow.

870
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: So I thought, I can run to that cedar, you know,

871
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: I'll be pretty close to where that buck disappeared. I'll

872
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: get there, throw the decoy up, and then I'll rattle

873
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: and maybe he'll come back. And so that's what I did.

874
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: Ran across the meadow, got to the cedar, popped up

875
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: the decoy in front of me, had tyler, you know,

876
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: kind of hunker down behind me as well. We're tight

877
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: up against that cedar, and had the decoy you know, pointed,

878
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: you know, it was facing right towards where I last

879
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: saw that dear get out. The antlers, start cracking, the

880
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: antlers together, and within thirty seconds a minute maybe something

881
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: like that of rattling, here comes that buck running at me,

882
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: comes busting out of those cedars, comes running right out

883
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 1: and as soon as he sees the decoy, he stops

884
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: and he bristled up, pinned his ears back, and was

885
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: doing the thing. And so I'm like, oh my gosh,

886
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: this is actually going to happen. He is pissed. Yeah,

887
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean it really felt like and I was, you know,

888
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: I was had my arrow knocked, I was clipped on,

889
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: I was ready, and I just remember thinking in my head, Okay,

890
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: this buck's gonna, you know, roll his eyes back, and

891
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna come on and on a death march, and

892
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a shot. Now. Here's what he did, though,

893
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: that was a little bit different, Tony, And I'm wondering

894
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: if I should have done anything different, or if this

895
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: is just the situation and it was out of my control.

896
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: He circled from that point. Instead of coming directly on,

897
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: he circled, and as you kind of mentioned with these

898
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: cruising bucks, he circled down wind and never came within

899
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: forty yards. And I was fresh off of having missed

900
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: a buck like three days earlier, and so I was

901
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: telling myself, I'm not gonna shoot like a long shot.

902
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: I want like an easy, no brainer shot at one

903
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: of these bucks. And I kept thinking you know, you're

904
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: talking about these bucks will come to twenty or fifteen

905
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: or ten coming in. So I'm ranging him at forty

906
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: two and I was like, no, I'm not, I'm not

907
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: taking that shot. But I it of him. He was

908
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: broadside circling and um and he just ended up getting

909
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: just a little bit too tight to where our wind

910
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: was blowing. And he he buggered out there before I

911
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: expected him to do that, and he was out Now

912
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: it could have been because of that wind swirled a

913
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: little bit or I Also, he's circled enough that you know,

914
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: the decoy was no longer blocking us entirely. You know,

915
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: he could see now us profiled behind it. Um. So

916
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: one of those two things I think spooked him. Would

917
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: you have done, Like, should I have tried to grab

918
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: the decoy and move it? Should I have done anything

919
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: different in that scenarity? Think? So, yeah, you're you're absolutely right.

920
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: He was circling because he doesn't mean to protect. He's

921
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: coming into a situation. He's just trying to survey it,

922
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: just to figure out what he's up against. Uh, that's

923
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: the difference between a buck with a dough and a

924
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: buck without a dough. But yeah, when I when they

925
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: when they do circle me, I you know, if it's

926
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: that windy, I got that on my boat. Um. But

927
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: I also this is much easier if one person than

928
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: it is too And I figured this out in Colorado

929
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: and Kansas this year myself while filming. But when they're

930
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: moving in, you know, want a door or a buck

931
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: is seeing you, and it's coming just like just kind

932
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: of curious, and they're moving, it's real easy for one

933
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: person to to shuffle and just kind of in that grass.

934
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're hunker down, you're on your knees,

935
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: and you're just moving into the right, moving into right,

936
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: moving intright, and you reach up and you just slowly

937
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: turn that decoy and you literally just stayed on you know,

938
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: you know, a hundred eight degrees behind, you know, from hamlet,

939
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: behind that, behind that decoy, and they're expecting movement. So

940
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: then it doesn't it doesn't spook him. But ah, both

941
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: with two people, that is a lot harder game to play,

942
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: and you really gotta you know, it's it's it's you

943
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: better be a good dance partner, which which I'm sure

944
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: Bobby was. But but yeah, I would definitely move it.

945
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily replay restake it, but I'd be pivoting

946
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: the decoy towards them, and I'd be moving to stay behind,

947
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: you know, keeping the decoy in between us. But if

948
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: I had been behind Bobby there with you when he

949
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: was forty two yards out, I'd be like, kill him now.

950
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: He's not you kill him now because he doesn't have

951
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: a doe to protect. He's not coming there to kick

952
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: your butt. He's coming in to find out what's going on.

953
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: And I and the first thing they're gonna do is

954
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: circle that win. And I kept thinking, he'll come closer,

955
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: He'll come closer, but we didn't. So that was that

956
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: was disappointing in the game. Yeah, it was disappointing, but

957
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: it was still like I remember, I was thrilled that

958
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: we actually had like a buck to see the decoy

959
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 1: came in sort of did the thing like it was intense,

960
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: Like that was that was a blast just having that happen.

961
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: So so then me and Tyler bombed back up to

962
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: the top of the rage where Bobby was and we

963
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: got set up. We actually moved to our main glassy

964
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: knob then at that point, so we get to the

965
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: to the main glass nob, and we didn't sit down

966
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 1: for more than a couple of minutes, maybe maybe less,

967
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I mean, who who spotted

968
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: that buck first? Bobby, I don't remember how to have it.

969
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: I remember someone like, oh, there's another buck. Yeah, I

970
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: think you might have seen him out across the river

971
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: over there. Yes, so basically right where I had been

972
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: five ten minutes earlier, on the other side of the

973
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: river though, so basically there was there was a peninsula

974
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: like imagine was the river that's like making s bends,

975
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: And we're on one of the little peninsula's that stick out,

976
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: and then on the other side of the river where

977
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: the others across the middle of the s here's this

978
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: other peninsula of private land over there. And I look

979
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: over there and I see a buck. It's a good one.

980
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: And then I see another buck, and then I see

981
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: another buck, and then I see another buck, and I

982
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: realized it's another situation where there's a hot dough and

983
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: every buck in town is locked on her right in

984
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: that spot again though, the other side of the river,

985
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 1: so I can't get to him in this case. I farewell,

986
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: I gotta be in, I gotta get over there, just

987
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: in case, So me and Tyler dropped back down to

988
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: the bottom sneak as close as we can get. I

989
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: get basically to the last little cedar tree before the

990
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: meadow drops down into the river, and they're on the

991
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: other side of it. And they ended up being like

992
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: a really nice, super solid nine pointer, definitely like four

993
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: or older and then uh three like bucks. It could

994
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: be two or three year olds and then a year

995
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: and a half old. And that big one was in

996
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: this nasty thick stuff on the point extending into the

997
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: river with that dough, and every buck would make a

998
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: move in there, and then he would run him off.

999
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: Another buck would come in, he run him off. Another

1000
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: buck could come in, he would run him off. Um.

1001
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: And I just kept thinking, man, this would be so

1002
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: perfect if I could hunt that, like, if I could

1003
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: get over there. It was that kind of scenario where

1004
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: he would have seemingly would have charged in if I

1005
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: were to somehow get close enough with that decoy. Um,

1006
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: but I just couldn't. I tried, like I thought, maybe

1007
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: I could get one of the satellite bucks to come

1008
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: over and investigate. Maybe they would tire of that and

1009
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: pop over on my way. So I popped the decoy

1010
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: up a couple of times when the younger bucks were looking,

1011
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: but no takers. But I kept waiting and waiting and hoping, like,

1012
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: maybe we'll just get lucky. Maybe we'll get lucky and

1013
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: that doele scoot out of there. If that dough scoots

1014
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: out of there, and if somehow we get lucky enough

1015
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: that they come to our side, you know, I'll make

1016
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: a move on them. And so me and Tyler sat

1017
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: there for I don't know, a half hour or something

1018
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: like that, and then sure enough that Doe all of

1019
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: a sudden squirt out of that pocket. And then it

1020
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: just became like chaos broke loose. All those bucks were

1021
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: sprinting after her, and she's running in circles and they're

1022
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: all running behind her. And then sure enough she jumps

1023
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: in the river and comes across to my side. And

1024
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: so as soon as I see her run to the river,

1025
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: I jump up out of my hide. I run to

1026
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: the edge of the river to be able to see

1027
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: where they're going. Now, Tyler Caraman's like grabbing all this stuff,

1028
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: trying to get ready, like we gotta go, we gotta go.

1029
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: So as soon as it looked like they're crossing the river,

1030
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: and I could see where they're gonna come in. We

1031
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: start sprinting down our side to try to intercept him,

1032
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: and I get around this patch of cedars and by

1033
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: the time I get around this, I don't know, like

1034
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: I maybe it was like ran like forty fifty yards

1035
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: around this little clump of cedars to the next meadow.

1036
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: As I was getting around that those deer popped up

1037
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: out of the river into the meadow with me, and

1038
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: that dough is barreling right at me, sprinting at me.

1039
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: She gets she comes running past, those bucks are behind her,

1040
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: and I put the decoy. I'm trying remember what I

1041
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: did here. I guess I'm pretty sure I popped the

1042
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: decoy up as I came around the corner because I

1043
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: saw the deer coming through, but that dough was running

1044
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: right at me, and then she veered off to the

1045
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: left disappeared with several of the bucks behind her. But

1046
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: then I saw a couple of the bucks run back

1047
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: the other way, So then I was confused, like did

1048
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: they see me and spook or was that just what

1049
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: she was doing? And then these other bucks broke through

1050
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: the direction. It just felt like kind of a chaotic moment.

1051
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: But everything was gone. It was like they're all there.

1052
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: They sprinted towards me, and then they're all gone, and

1053
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: just just a matter of second. And this this meadow

1054
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: was maybe I don't like a hundred yards wide, and

1055
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: they peeled off in two different directions. One dropped from

1056
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: the river, the other one dropped into this other patch

1057
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: of cedars. So I wait there for a while, wait

1058
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: there for a while, nothing's popping out. So I said, okay,

1059
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 1: let's let's go back to where we just we're grabbing

1060
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: my backpack and my other things and then we'll move

1061
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: back into another position where we can get a better

1062
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: view again, get higher, get a servant surveillance situation. Try again.

1063
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: As we get back to my backpack, a buck goes

1064
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: running by, like seventy yards away, not a big one,

1065
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: but this buck is like it just seems like in

1066
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: a panic looking for those doughs but doesn't know where

1067
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: they are. You could just kind of tell by the

1068
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: way he was running. He was running around, stopping and looking,

1069
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: run around, stopping and look him he cruises way off.

1070
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: He gets like two hundred yards away by the time,

1071
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, what, what the heck? Maybe

1072
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: if this. If we can somehow get this buck, I

1073
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: take crack at him. He wasn't a big he was

1074
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: a tight eight pointer, you know, probably probably a good

1075
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: year and a half old or a lousy two year old,

1076
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: I don't know. But I just rattled my antlers together,

1077
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: and from two hundred fifty yards away or whatever, he

1078
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: spins around and starts sprinting all the way back the

1079
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: way he came. Ends up running all the way to

1080
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: me and sees my decoy. But he had run with

1081
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: a he'd run head on, and there was a barbed

1082
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: ware fence between me and him, and he was just

1083
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: beneath the hill, and all you could see was his

1084
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: neck and all his chest was beneath the hill, so

1085
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: I could basically see half of his neck and his

1086
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: head and barbed ware across it, staring at me. And

1087
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: if I had a clean shot at him, I probably

1088
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: would have taken him. But that just did not look

1089
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: a good shot to me, basically aiming beneath his face.

1090
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: So he ended up he ended up jumping the fence,

1091
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: but circling around out of range and just kind of

1092
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: continuing his run trot. He didn't really spook, but it

1093
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: was like he saw the decoy. I was like, whoa,

1094
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: what's that? And then I, still looking for my dough,

1095
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 1: kept running. So I go back up to the knob.

1096
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: Now after that happens, get to the knob. I wasn't

1097
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: back at the knob there with you, Bobby, for sixty

1098
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: seconds or so, when all of a suddenly, oh, there's

1099
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: bucks again. Back down in the bottom at the end

1100
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: of the point, we saw one of these bucks that

1101
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: had been with the little rough Fest group that I

1102
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: was originally with, you know, twenty minutes earlier. So I

1103
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 1: watched these deer. I see the big nine, I see

1104
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: one of the two year old, and then coming out

1105
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: on the private side, I see like a big buck. Um,

1106
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: different category than the other ones who've been looking at this.

1107
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: Was like, if he was a ten point, he'd be

1108
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: one fifty for sure, Um, but he was an eight

1109
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: and as an eight, you know still, you know, mid

1110
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: one forties, we're bigger. Um. I mean he was a

1111
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: big buck. And some stoked some standing up there glassing.

1112
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: I see the big nine. I see the big eight. Um,

1113
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm watching them, but they're on the private land side.

1114
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: And then I don't know why, but the big eight

1115
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: crossed the river and pops up onto our side. All

1116
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: the other are on the other side, but for some reason,

1117
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: the big guy comes over on my side, and I

1118
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: was kind of shocked that this that was actually gonna happen,

1119
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: like the one that I really would love to get

1120
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: a crack. It happens to come to our side, seemingly

1121
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: not with the dough, um Like, it seemed like the

1122
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: dough and all the other bucks are on the other

1123
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: side still, so I didn't understand that. Um but here

1124
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: he is. He pops over to our side, and now

1125
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 1: he's in like a I don't know, like a hundred

1126
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: and fifty yard wide by a hundred and fifty yard

1127
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: wide type meadow, and then there was a patch of

1128
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: cedars that was maybe like an acre maybe two acres

1129
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: of cedars, and then there was another big meadow. And

1130
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: my thought was that if I could run down through

1131
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: the first meadow and get into those cedars, I would

1132
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: try to sneak to the edge of the cedars while

1133
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: he was still in that first meadow and then hopefully

1134
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,919
Speaker 1: sea where he's headed, pop the decoy up in either

1135
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: grunt or rattle and get him to spot the decoy

1136
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: and coming. That was my hope. So I slipped on

1137
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: at the bottom of Tyler Bobby's up top filming um

1138
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: And basically I first tried to move to the river

1139
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: and see if I could work the river's edge, because

1140
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: the way the wind was blowing it was, if I

1141
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: remember this right, it was kind of it was blowing

1142
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: towards the river a little bit but up and I

1143
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: was hoping if I stayed right in the river's edge,

1144
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: I could keep my wind blowing out over the water

1145
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: and edge my way all the way up to where

1146
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: that metal was and be undetected windwise. But I couldn't

1147
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: end up being like impenetrable thick, and so then I

1148
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: had to circle back into the cedars. And at this point,

1149
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: you know, I couldn't see the meadow, I couldn't see

1150
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: where that buck was. But it had been I don't know,

1151
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes, a minute max or something. I

1152
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what it actually was, but

1153
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: I feel like we sprinted down there fast. Now, Bobby,

1154
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: what did you see from the moment when me and

1155
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: Tyler bombed off the ridge? What did you see happen

1156
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: from your position because you stayed up high watching from

1157
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: the bird's view. Yeah, I did. I remember. We saw

1158
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: the big guy come over the river and straight across

1159
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: that meadow, and then you guys dropped down, and then

1160
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: a couple other bucks followed him across, and there was

1161
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: some some running back and forth. Um. But then once

1162
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: you guys got into that thick cedar patch, UM, I

1163
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: couldn't really see much much going on. So just washed

1164
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: and UM yeah, I don't think I saw the big

1165
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: one until later after you guys have done down there.

1166
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I was just kind of trying to

1167
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: listen through the microphone and anxiously hear what was going on.

1168
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: It's exciting. Yeah, So the big guy last I saw,

1169
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: he was in the medal. I get into these cedars,

1170
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: and my thoughts, I'm gonna sneak quietly through these sears

1171
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: up to the edge. I get into the first little

1172
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: pocket of sears, and I'm coming around a corner of

1173
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: a tree, and as I'm coming around the corner of

1174
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: the tree, that buck pops around the other corner already

1175
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: in the cedar is fifteen yards away from me something

1176
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: like that, and there's like a little rise in the

1177
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: land right there, and I just remember, like whisper yelling

1178
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: at tiler like buck buck it down, and we both

1179
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: collapsed to the ground. And there's this little, like I said,

1180
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: this little rise in between me and him. So by

1181
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: dropping down, we actually slipped out of you. So as

1182
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: as I'm dropping down, I remember sticking the decoy down

1183
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: on the ground in front of my face. As I'm

1184
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: dropping to the ground, I'm on my knees, huddling behind

1185
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: the decoy, kind of laying down as fly as I can,

1186
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: grabbing an arrow out of the out of the quiver,

1187
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: knocking the arrow, clipping on my release. As I slowly

1188
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: start to rise, I can see the buck walking straight

1189
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 1: at me, the bucks coming head on at us. He's

1190
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: at ten yards, he's you know, at eight yards. And

1191
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: I rise up and I start drawing back. He gets

1192
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: to five yards and I'm like three corters away drawn back.

1193
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: He stops and blows out. I mean, he's right there,

1194
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: and before I can get back to anchor, he buggered.

1195
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: Now in that situation, do you think I mean, I

1196
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: remember you telling me that you should, like, I shouldn't

1197
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: worry about drawing behind that thing. I shouldn't worry about

1198
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: moving behind that thing. Just do your thing and they'll

1199
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: usually let you get away with it. Um, would you

1200
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: have done what I did, which was basically slapped the

1201
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: decoy down and try to get a shot off in

1202
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: that case? Or should I have got the decoy down

1203
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: and just waited? Um? Do you think it was just

1204
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: the nature of the beast with that there being a

1205
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: cameraman behind me too, and just like too much going

1206
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: on to actually get away with it. It's hard to

1207
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: say what he caught and what if. I don't know

1208
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: if it was the wind was swirling or maybe smells you.

1209
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: Usually they don't if they blow up and just take

1210
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: off and don't even bother or look back, they smell

1211
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: they smelled me. Um. If they see something they don't like,

1212
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: they still think you're a dear. I mean, he didn't

1213
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: walk the five yards without being convinced you're another buck,

1214
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: so that it's it's hard to it's it's this is

1215
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: hard to believe if you haven't done it, but it's

1216
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: hard to convince them otherwise. Once they have you pegged

1217
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: as a noird dear, they literally will ask confused and

1218
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: stop and look back. If they do get spooked, like,

1219
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: I don't understand, why is there a person right next

1220
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: to you, Um, I smell a human they so I

1221
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: would guess he'd probably smelled you or cut something really shiny. Uh.

1222
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: But I think we did have the conversation too that

1223
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, Decoin might not be fairy body if you're

1224
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 1: not ready to take a frontal when he's walking towards

1225
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: you with that range. Um, because you're gonna go out

1226
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: of them. You're gonna get a lot of opportunities when

1227
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: the animals walking right straight at you at point blank range.

1228
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: And you know, white even a mature white tail, you know,

1229
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: a five plus year old. You know, I've never had

1230
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 1: any problem blowing through that those bones. But um, if

1231
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: I had been behind you at five yards that in

1232
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: eight yards need ten fifteen, I'd have been like, Park,

1233
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 1: you need to kill this steer, get that ball back. Yeah,

1234
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely was. It was as fast as

1235
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: I could get the arrow on and get clipped on,

1236
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: and it was it happened as fast as it could

1237
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: possibly happen. And uh, was he trotting? Would he would

1238
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: be like I almost a run? No? I mean, and

1239
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: again like the specifics when I say he was ten yards,

1240
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know when it was the first

1241
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: time all I know is that I saw him, and

1242
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: he was close, and I dropped down, and then by

1243
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: the time I was able to get an arrow on

1244
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: and get clipped on, and I started rising up and

1245
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: drawing back. Basically I was trying to do that in

1246
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: one motion. And by the time I was able to

1247
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,479
Speaker 1: get up and drawn partially drawn, I'm seeing him five yards.

1248
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: So I don't really know how he got from ten

1249
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: or twelve or whatever to the final five um, but

1250
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: I just I just remember being drawing back, coming into view,

1251
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: seeing him and thinking, all right, I'm gonna put it

1252
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: right there on the center, punch him, and and him

1253
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: going like literally and busting out as soon as as

1254
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: soon as I popped up it, Uh was the grass

1255
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: of the vegetation around you, thick enough that you had

1256
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: to rise up to shoot. You couldn't just shoot like

1257
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: the side. It's the side of the decoy. I mean

1258
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: I I I basically was trying to shoot to the

1259
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: side of him because I was on my knees and

1260
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: I was like I was on my knees and like

1261
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: bent over flat, you know what I mean. Like I

1262
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: was on my knees as long as I could get

1263
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: And then That's what the position I was in to

1264
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: try to hide myself while I was getting an arrow

1265
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: ready and then and then from there then it was

1266
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: just rising up like onto my knees straight enough that

1267
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: I could shoot, Yeah, and the decoy was off to

1268
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: my I was I was going to be shooting just

1269
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: to the left side of the decoy. That's why I

1270
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: was drawing. Okay, So yeah, I think that you know,

1271
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: it could have been it could have been a swirl

1272
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: of wind, because we definitely did have like wind swirling

1273
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: occasually down there. There was a couple of times him

1274
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: where I was. Um, I mean, that was definitely on

1275
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: my mind a lot, so that certainly could be it.

1276
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: And then I mean there's the whole you know, second

1277
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: guy that's behind me, and I can't remember if he

1278
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: had the dough decoy with him at that point or not,

1279
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: but Tyler had a dough handheld decoy that he was

1280
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: trying to pop up when we were in a situation

1281
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: like that. I can't remember if he used it in

1282
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: that situation or not. Um, but I mean it was

1283
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: it was super intense. I mean I thought, I absolutely thought, Okay,

1284
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: this is happening, and miss is it he's right here

1285
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get him, and uh, he bugged out

1286
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: of there, and that was disappointing. But I thought, man,

1287
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: there was those other bucks still on the medal that

1288
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: we know, the other ones that were there, so like, well,

1289
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: let's move over there and see if we can't spot

1290
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: them again. And there's been the big nine had been

1291
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: like seemingly on the doll like on the edge of

1292
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: the river. He just wouldn't leave this spot. So the

1293
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: big big one moved in the medal. But I remember

1294
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: seeing the nine pointer standing by the river, and I thought, well,

1295
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: let's go, let's work our way over that direction, see

1296
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: if he's still there. And sure enough I moved. I mean,

1297
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: this is like a couple of hundred yards maybe that

1298
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: I had just slipped through. Get enough that I can

1299
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,439
Speaker 1: see over to the river again, and he's still there.

1300
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: And eventually I have to like belly crawl um first

1301
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: on all four is, then belly crawl slip underneath the

1302
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: barbed wire fence, and I ended up belly crawling all

1303
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: the way to the river's edge, and he ended up

1304
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: bedding down with his dough like in the edge of

1305
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,439
Speaker 1: the river. So like they're imagine like a five foot

1306
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: bank maybe, and like he's down beneath the bank in

1307
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: like these thick weeds right on the edge of the

1308
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: river with the dough and so I can see him,

1309
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: and there's one little cedar tree down the bank on

1310
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: my side. Now here's this is the problem is that

1311
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: he's on one side of the river. I'm on the other.

1312
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: Now this spot where he was technically it was public

1313
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: on the other side of the river to um and

1314
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the river. I'm like, it looks really

1315
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: shallow that you could see spots like I thought like,

1316
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: this might be shallow enough that, you know, if I

1317
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: can get him to just get pisted enough to walk

1318
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: ten twenty more yards in my direction into the river,

1319
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: I could probably get a crack at him. So I

1320
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: slipped behind the seater, like slithered down off the bank

1321
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: behind this tree, got down like to the water, and

1322
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: finally just slowly ease my way into view of him.

1323
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: And he's he's just not looking my direction. He's better.

1324
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: They're kind of head down looking around. And I ended

1325
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: up thinking, you know, the only the only thing that

1326
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: might work here is to pop this decoy up where

1327
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: like fifty some yards and hope that he'll do the

1328
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: thing that you described when they're betted and you sneak

1329
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: up on one, you know, pop the decoy up, get

1330
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: his attention, he'll get piste and come your way. So

1331
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: I popped the decoy up behind me or in front

1332
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,439
Speaker 1: of me, and I'm waiting. He never looks, doesn't look,

1333
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 1: and I grunted. I'm trying to remember what I can't remember.

1334
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: I grunted, and he didn't look. It was very windy,

1335
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: um and I think a snort wheezed, and then he

1336
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 1: popped his ears up and looked in my direction, saw

1337
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: the decoy, and just like glaring at us, and then

1338
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: in like one fell swoop, he's up and running the

1339
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: other direction. And and I think when that happened, I

1340
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: jump up and try to look up. He jumps up.

1341
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: The banking is now in the meadow, running away, and

1342
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: the dough was running ahead of him. So I think

1343
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: that what happened is somehow the doe buggered out of there,

1344
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: and then he spun to follow the dough, is what

1345
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: I think happened. Now, Why she buggered? Was it a

1346
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: wind swirl? Was it she just didn't like this other

1347
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: bucks norweisan at him uh or who knows, um, But

1348
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: that's what happened there. Um. What do you think about

1349
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: what I tried to do? Was that? Was that crazy

1350
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: to try to get when it come across the river

1351
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: like that? You know, I've never tried a river like

1352
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: small streams and tricks had him crossed. But I've also

1353
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: had him stall out on the other side, even just

1354
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: like a you know, something that's eight inches deep and

1355
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: tens of wide, and they just act like it's a

1356
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 1: brick wall. So I think that just depends on the

1357
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: attitude of the deer. But I bet you, uh. I

1358
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: also know what I've had a lot of is if

1359
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: the dough is not quite yet hot, uh, the last

1360
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: thing she wants is another buck harassing her. So sometimes

1361
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: those does will you know, they stand at first they

1362
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: see you and they just come over like, hey, what's up,

1363
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: what's up? How are you doing? And sometimes they stand

1364
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 1: up and they see you and they're like, not another one,

1365
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: and they just they're out. And we actually had to

1366
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: happen to us after after you know, we got done

1367
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: hunting and I went to Colorado and the brasket it

1368
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: happened to are not brask at Colorado and Kansas. It

1369
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 1: happened to us in both states where those who weren't

1370
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: great Freddy bucks were harassing them, and you know, they

1371
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: finally lay down. We got in tight. She saw it,

1372
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: and she's like, Nope, not not, I've got enough trouble here. Uh,

1373
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: And of course they just follow her. Bobby, could you

1374
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: see this? I can't. I can't remember. Could you see

1375
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: that whole thing going down from your position? Do you

1376
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: remember seeing what happened? Yeah, definitely. I It's just fun.

1377
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: Seemed kind of a longer wait, and I was just

1378
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: watching the bucks on the other side of the river,

1379
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: and then you guys are kind of down at the

1380
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: edge of that meadow, and um, yeah, I couldn't determine anything.

1381
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: You didn't say as to why why they boot eat

1382
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: or anything, but um, it seemed reasonable for for them

1383
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: to cross the river because after watching them do it

1384
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: a few times, it was really only a few inches

1385
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: deep and they didn't seem to have too much problem

1386
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: with it. So I was I was hopeful. Yeah, it

1387
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: seemed like there was a chance. Um, now, I guess

1388
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 1: I guess I could have tried to do like the

1389
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: hold the decoy in front of me, and walk right

1390
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: at him. But that seemed that seemed way higher risk

1391
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 1: than what I was gonna try. Um, yeah, try to

1392
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: get him become my direction. But that didn't work out. Um.

1393
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: And that was that was basically the end of that day.

1394
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: That morning, we went back up to the knob after that.

1395
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a lot that was like four

1396
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: different close calls or something that before before at eleven

1397
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: o'clock that day. I mean, it was intense. It was

1398
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: up and down and up and down and running here

1399
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: and there and it was crazy. Um. But then around lunchtime,

1400
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 1: some other hunters came by and started walking around, and

1401
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 1: then some ranch hands showed up and started fixing fences. Um.

1402
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: And so that that whole area just kind of seemingly

1403
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: blown up. And I kept going back and forth like, um,

1404
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: if we should stick it out there or explore this

1405
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: other opportunity. Uh. To make a long story short, our

1406
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: producer was in town and bumped into like someone at

1407
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 1: the library and ended up Naviga. I don't even know

1408
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: how he does what he does, but somehow was able

1409
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: to connect with a I was able to connect with

1410
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 1: a landowner who owns some private land on the same

1411
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: river we were hunting, but like miles down and got

1412
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: his permission to hunt there if who wanted. So at

1413
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 1: first I was like, no, we're not leaving this spot

1414
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: because it's been bucks all over. But now it's like

1415
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: mid day, and now it's like two. Now it's like three,

1416
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 1: and those ranch hands are still there. They're slowly working

1417
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,560
Speaker 1: their way and the right in our little bottom, like

1418
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 1: right in the spots where we're hoping to intercept a buck,

1419
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: and they're just going like fence posts by fence post

1420
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: by fence post, making a racket chainsaw and down seaters

1421
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. And decide, you know what, maybe

1422
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 1: we should go try this other spot just in case,

1423
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: because this could be a situation where these guys are

1424
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,759
Speaker 1: here until dark in our whole night but be blown.

1425
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 1: So bailed out of there, basically ran back to the truck.

1426
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: I think this is the day that the wind was

1427
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: like crazy strong. Bobby was at the windstorm. We're hiking

1428
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: out that night or was it the next day, um, yeah,

1429
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 1: And it just started to pick up that day at

1430
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: the end of the day. Um. And then I think

1431
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: that's right at that same time when that dough almost

1432
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: took your head off, man, I forgot about that. So

1433
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 1: so this is this is that morning while we're yeah,

1434
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: I think this is after those other hunters came by

1435
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 1: and we were our little glassing knob. We were all

1436
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 1: sitting around this this seater up on this this hill

1437
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting on the front edge of the seater.

1438
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: The other two guys are kind of back off behind it,

1439
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 1: and I mean, just out of nowhere, a doe was

1440
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: running right at me, like basically jumped over me, like

1441
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: literally within two ft of my head. Was had been

1442
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 1: running along the side the hill and ran across the

1443
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: cedar and I'm right there next to the seedar and

1444
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 1: just I mean feet from taking off my head. And

1445
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: I remember I yelled and then Tyler was like screamed.

1446
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: They were both in the crap scared out of this.

1447
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:28,560
Speaker 1: That was crazy. Um, But yeah, I got super winding. No, No,

1448
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 1: there's a whole lot of excitement on this hunt that

1449
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: you just never have in this tree. Um. But to

1450
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 1: make a to make a long story short, in this evening,

1451
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: we we high tailed it out to this other new area.

1452
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: It took like an hourady into this new spot. End

1453
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: up working on our way in this spot, like just

1454
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: it didn't set up as well. It wasn't like high

1455
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: ground to glass, you couldn't see as much, but there

1456
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: was a lot of open country. Ended up spotting a

1457
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: decent buck going into a patch of cover, so I

1458
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 1: started kind of slipping my way towards it, and end

1459
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: up spotting a really good buck, like another big type,

1460
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: but um seemingly locked on a doll and so I

1461
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 1: ended up watching trying to see where I was. I

1462
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 1: was wanting the eyes and on them one more time

1463
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: before trying to make a move. Basically, I was in

1464
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: a little cluster of like cotton woods, and then there

1465
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 1: was a hundred hundred fifty yard wide opening of just

1466
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 1: open grass, and then it gets this like clump of

1467
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: cotton woods and cedars and stuff that he was in

1468
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: with that doll. And I didn't want to go running

1469
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 1: across that big opening until I could see him again

1470
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 1: and just get a good idea of where he was at.

1471
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: But time was running out, the days trickling away. Finally

1472
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 1: I said, you know what we gotta just I'm just

1473
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: gonna make a make a move across this and get

1474
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: into the cover and try to sneak our way in

1475
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: there and maybe kind of do the thing you talked about, Tony,

1476
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 1: which is in the high odds deal, which is trying

1477
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: to slip in there and spot him before he spots

1478
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 1: me and maybe make a move. And tried that, got

1479
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 1: into that area without spooking anything, but never spotted him

1480
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: before dark came. So that was that night. The next morning,

1481
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 1: went back to the public land spot and just had

1482
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: a super slow day, just it was it was dead.

1483
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: Um saw one smaller buck, made a move on him,

1484
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 1: he just wasn't interested. So that afternoon I decided to

1485
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,560
Speaker 1: go back to the private property one more time. This

1486
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: is our last night, and almost the same exact same

1487
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: kind of thing happened. Um. I was working my way

1488
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: towards that little thicket area where the buck had been

1489
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: the night before. I get to that last clump of

1490
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 1: cotton woods, and sure enough I spot him again in

1491
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: like the same exact place that I saw him twenty

1492
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: four hours earlier. Like and I'm not saying like in

1493
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 1: the same five acre place. I'm saying like within ten

1494
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: yards of where I saw him the night before. He

1495
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 1: was in the same spot, and he's chasing a donow.

1496
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: So he goes running off in the direction with this

1497
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: dough and then running back my way, but they're probably

1498
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: like two yards away, and you know, daylight's fading fast again,

1499
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,560
Speaker 1: same type of situations. So again I decided, you know

1500
01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 1: what I gotta, I gotta. I was basically debating a

1501
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:05,560
Speaker 1: couple of things. Number one, the way the terrain, the

1502
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 1: way things looked. Basically, it was like a little funnel

1503
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 1: where this big patch of cover that he was in

1504
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: with that dough next down, and the only way to

1505
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: not be completely exposed out in the open it would

1506
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 1: be to come past us. So pardon me, thought, man,

1507
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 1: if if any deer leave this thicket, they're gonna come

1508
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: by me, maybe that do is gonna come this way

1509
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 1: and take him with her, or take take him with her.

1510
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 1: And so one side said stay here, another side said,

1511
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 1: you got a bomb in there, and try to just

1512
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: get on them. And so, after a couple of minutes,

1513
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: hoping to see them again, decided that, you know, last night,

1514
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: we're down to the last like twenty minutes or something,

1515
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 1: you just gotta hail marry. So I decided that I

1516
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: was going to hold the deco up in front of me,

1517
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 1: get Tyler right on my hip, and we're gonna sprint

1518
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 1: across the field, run all the way across the field

1519
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: to get into the thicket and then hopefully spot him

1520
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: in there. And this is the last twenty minutes of

1521
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: the hunt. We go Hail mary sprinting across the field.

1522
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: We get into the cover, and not within like twenty

1523
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 1: thirty yards of getting into the cover, I spot that

1524
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:08,600
Speaker 1: buck running at us. And so he's running at us,

1525
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: We're running at him. We same thing as like that

1526
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: other buck. I dropped to the ground like Tyler knocks down,

1527
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 1: dropped down, stick the decoy on the ground in front

1528
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 1: of me. Late, but you know, Neil, the same exact thing.

1529
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm down on my knees, but as low as I

1530
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: can get, get an arrow of the quiver, get the

1531
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: arrow knocked, get clipped on. As I rise up now

1532
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: back onto my knees, you can see him heading like

1533
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 1: head on, but behind a whole bunch of stuff. And

1534
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 1: he turns broadside at thirty yards but just all sorts

1535
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: of brush and crap in front of I'm basically he

1536
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: was coming straight on and I'm about to draw, and

1537
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: he steps out broadside and there's no way I can

1538
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: get a shot. And then the same exact kind of

1539
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: thing happened. He's he stared for half a second and

1540
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: then booger and ran off. And that was that. Um

1541
01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: And I don't think. I don't think the wind. We

1542
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 1: had a really good steady wind blow in the opposite

1543
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 1: direction from that time. So the only thing I can

1544
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 1: figure there was just like there was too much action there.

1545
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: You know, there was a caraman moving around for a

1546
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 1: better angle or something, um or or I don't, I

1547
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: don't know, but I mean it was super intense exciting thing. Um,

1548
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was very intense, spreading across

1549
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 1: that field, getting into this patch of cotton woods, running

1550
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 1: in there, see this deco, this buck, Like I think

1551
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 1: I think that buck heard us running and I thought

1552
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 1: that that was a doe or another box. He was

1553
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: coming to see what's going on and so and then

1554
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 1: he sees this buck decoy coming at him and uh,

1555
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like if there had not been

1556
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 1: all that brush, I think I would have killed him. Um.

1557
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 1: So that was the hunt. That was the trip. I mean,

1558
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 1: it was intense, it was really exciting. It was a

1559
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: ton of fun. I think that's the most fun I've

1560
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: had in three three and a half days of hunting.

1561
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 1: Like concentrating too a type dust like that probably ever

1562
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 1: um So, I mean it was, it was a success

1563
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: and always except for having fired and arrow and filled

1564
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: the tag um. But I don't know hearing anything that

1565
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: I did Tony the last time. I'm curious, is you know,

1566
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: given the situations I was in as best as I

1567
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 1: could describe them, is there anything that you heard me

1568
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: say that you think I should done differently that you

1569
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: would make me keep in mind for the next time

1570
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 1: I tried doing this outside of just trying to find

1571
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: situations where you can better do the main thing, which

1572
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 1: is fine about better with the dough. No, I think

1573
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 1: you you played it great. It sounds like you're very aggressive,

1574
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: and that's I think, you know, I think that's the

1575
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 1: right way to do it. You know, you're going to

1576
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: get a lot of opportunities we have given it. You're

1577
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 1: in an area has multiple bucks that you you know,

1578
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: you guys hit the root just perfectly. It sounds like,

1579
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: and you had all kinds of opportunities on different bucks

1580
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 1: and that you know, there's a lot of time when

1581
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 1: when we find ourselves we're running and it's like, you know,

1582
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 1: you don't you don't think of you know, running from

1583
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 1: one little spot to another, just you know, to get it,

1584
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: you know, to get a shot at a buck a

1585
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 1: white tail here. But it's it really can't happen with

1586
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 1: with the decoy and system. And I think he probably

1587
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 1: did everything right. And those here that those two bucks

1588
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 1: that boogered out, they just they saw something they didn't

1589
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 1: like and it's hard to her to see what that was.

1590
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 1: I really feel like if I had had, you know,

1591
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: like a full seven days and you've got enough chances

1592
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: like that, you know, one of them, one of them

1593
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: would pan out eventually. I think it exactly definitely could

1594
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: have done. And of all the things I've tried this year,

1595
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 1: I've tried a lot of different types of hunting and

1596
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 1: styles of hunting, this is the one that I'm absolutely

1597
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 1: for sure gonna keep doing. Like it was just too

1598
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 1: much fun not to want to try again. Yeah, No,

1599
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: it is very exciting. And and if someone had told

1600
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 1: me before I started that you're gonna have more opportunities

1601
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: on the ground, being more bowl and taking the game

1602
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: to them with this decoin, and you can get away

1603
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,679
Speaker 1: with so much more to been like whatever they're white tailed,

1604
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: dear pound of my whole life you can't get away

1605
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: with that stuff. And then and then it happened, and

1606
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 1: you do. And I mean I never even knew that

1607
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 1: a white tail buck would pin his ears back and

1608
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: puff up like a porkupine and come stomping in to

1609
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 1: kick it, you know, to kick my butt, you know,

1610
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 1: if I'm holding the decoy. I mean, just just the

1611
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: thought of that. But you know, when you're on his level,

1612
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 1: is it happens one time to here and it works,

1613
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 1: and you're just like, all right, I'm this is this

1614
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 1: is the most fun. And I don't know, You're yeah,

1615
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm dedicated to to making it happen one of

1616
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 1: these days. Bobby, you've done some white tail hunting yourself,

1617
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: after having observed this and being a part of it

1618
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 1: for a few days, what do you think is this

1619
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 1: is this something you would ever try yourself for? What

1620
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:52,839
Speaker 1: was your general take away from this crazy adventure? Yeah, totally.

1621
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,799
Speaker 1: Um So, I've done a little bit of white tail hunting,

1622
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 1: um but it's all been out in the mountains here

1623
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: in western Montana with her rightful um So, I've never

1624
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: really been able to see up close the action and

1625
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 1: just that much of it. Um So, it's really exciting.

1626
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 1: It almost almost reminded me of like the Elkret, like

1627
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 1: just running around and having a bunch of encounters and

1628
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:19,560
Speaker 1: watching them just go go bonkers. Um so. And and

1629
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: like you said, I feel like if there were more days,

1630
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: it looked very doable and possible. Um So, yeah, I

1631
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: would I would love to get into that again. And

1632
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: um I thought it was really cool. Yeah it was.

1633
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 1: It was everything I could ask for. I mean it

1634
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 1: really was, especially you know with it being in public

1635
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 1: land that we had never hunted before. It was we

1636
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 1: just got really lucky that a couple of our guesses

1637
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: panned out and uh you know, got into Bucks and

1638
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 1: hit the rut just right. And I mean there were

1639
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 1: a lot of things that ended up going our way

1640
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 1: and then a few things that didn't. Um, but it

1641
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 1: was enough to make for a super, super fun a

1642
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,560
Speaker 1: couple of days. So I guess I just want to

1643
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 1: thank you again, Tony for for a taking the time

1644
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: to walk me through all that stuff and show me

1645
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 1: how you do what you do and uh just teaching

1646
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 1: me and encouraging me to try this thing because it's

1647
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 1: uh it's now officially one of the coolest things I've

1648
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 1: ever done. Well, I'm happy to hear that, and I'm

1649
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: glad you got to experience it, and I think I

1650
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 1: think you're right. To a couple more days you would

1651
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 1: have got it done. And I'm excited to see what

1652
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 1: happens next year or try to decide to try it. Yeah,

1653
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:34,560
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be on the list for

1654
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 1: one way or another. So so, Tony Bobby. I appreciate

1655
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 1: you guys taking the time to to relive this experience

1656
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 1: and share the stories and experiences this is. This is

1657
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 1: fun to get to kind of reminisce on a good

1658
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: time again. Yeah, of course, I can't wait for the

1659
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 1: footage to come out. Me too. Yeah, I'm excited, all right,

1660
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: And that's a wrap. Thank you for tuning in. Couple

1661
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,559
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1662
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1663
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1664
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1669
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1670
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: things you need for me. I'm gonna let you go.

1671
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 1: Hopefully i'll have another good story in a podcast coming

1672
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 1: to you soon. Until then, thank you for listening, and

1673
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 1: stay wired to hunt.