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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode five sixty five of The Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 1: Here with Eddie, we're going to talk about music documentaries.

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Speaker 1: You did your top five.

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Speaker 2: This was hard, dude. Top five was hard because I

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Speaker 2: love music documentaries.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. It was hard for me as well.

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Speaker 1: Probably a little bit of mine is going to be

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Speaker 1: a recency bias. But before we get there with that,

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Speaker 1: So you were walking out in and there was a

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Speaker 1: guy walking out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who was that? Describe him? Uh, look like he

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Speaker 2: could be my brother. Longer hair, cool looking, very nice,

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Speaker 2: really nice. Waved at me while sitting in my car.

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Speaker 2: Oh he did. I don't think. I don't know him.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he knows me, but he waved

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Speaker 2: at me. We smiled.

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Speaker 1: So everybody listening, you're gonna hear the episode coming up

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Speaker 1: in a bit.

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Speaker 2: So I'll tell you a story here. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I went to Morgan and I said, hey, you know

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Speaker 1: who I'd like to have on the show. Are you

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Speaker 1: familiar at all with Sean Ryan? He navy sealed a

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Speaker 1: bald head dude was in the CIA, has a massive podcast,

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Speaker 1: like five million followers on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: No, so did he kill though he did not? That's

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Speaker 2: not him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he lives here though, and I said, hey, I

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Speaker 1: like to get Sean Ryan on and Morgan's like, boom,

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Speaker 1: I'll go work on it.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The next day, she's like got him. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: holy crab, you got Sean Ryan that quick because he's

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Speaker 1: a really big deal. She's like yeah, So we set

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Speaker 1: the time on the calendar and I guess Mike flags

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Speaker 1: it and Mike's like, hey, this says Sean Ryan music.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I was literally gonna say he

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Speaker 2: was a Navy seal.

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Speaker 1: So they booked the wrong guy. Get that is hilarious.

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Speaker 1: So so who is this guy? So they're like, what

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Speaker 1: do you want to do? You want to cancel? You

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Speaker 1: want to tell them? I said no, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to cancel because I don't know. My feelings will be

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Speaker 1: hurt if someone booked me and then realize they made

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Speaker 1: a mistake and just canceled, Like I guess, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: take it personally, but it still sucked.

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Speaker 2: It would yeah, because you thought initially they were trying

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Speaker 2: to get you, and then I find out that they're not.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to get someone's name. So I said, I

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Speaker 2: want to have him up.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what he does, but I want to

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Speaker 1: have him up and talk with him and do an

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Speaker 1: interview with him.

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Speaker 2: But we have to tell him. Yeah you have to.

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Speaker 2: So we had him up. He knows the whole story.

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Speaker 2: Tell him right away as soon as it started. Isn't yet, Well,

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Speaker 2: he knew.

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Speaker 1: We told him before he came up here, because I

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Speaker 1: didn't want to coming up here and thinking, wow, this

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Speaker 1: guy's a big fan. It was, Hey, we messed up,

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Speaker 1: but I totally respect all that you're doing. So come

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Speaker 1: up and let's just make something out of it.

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Speaker 2: It'll be good for you. I don't want to be

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Speaker 2: a dick and cancel on you. So that was who

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Speaker 2: that was. So he plays That is hilarious.

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Speaker 1: He plays like like rockabilly, okay kind of Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: we spent cool story. Yeah he was homeless as a kid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah'll let him tell the story because this is so organic,

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Speaker 1: That's what I said, Like, weird, how all this happened? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: here we were and we did forty five minutes or so,

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Speaker 1: just talking about his life and career and he'll be on.

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Speaker 2: Coming up soon.

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Speaker 1: Will it be transparent to just I just felt like

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Speaker 1: it would be more genuine for both of us, and

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Speaker 1: I would feel better about myself than just to interview

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Speaker 1: me and I act like I'm a big fan, but

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Speaker 1: all of our audience knows that I'm I'm not dicking

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Speaker 1: with them because we didn't set it up that way

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Speaker 1: on purpose, but it would have felt that way.

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Speaker 2: Hilarious, Yeah, that's who that was. So you're still gonna

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Speaker 2: get Sean Ryan the we're trying. It's harder to get

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Speaker 2: them than he originally was. He wasn't that hard to

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Speaker 2: get originally. Man, Sean Ryan Live, I'm available. Man Sean

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Speaker 2: Ryan Live was like, oh wait, they're ten minutes. That's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, on Instagram it's Sean Ryan Live, the guy

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Speaker 1: that just came in.

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Speaker 2: So you can go ahead and look up his bage

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Speaker 2: if you want to. But yeah, that'll be sick. That'll

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Speaker 2: be that story.

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Speaker 1: I do have some stuff I wanted to do before

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Speaker 1: we get into our documentaries.

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Speaker 2: I want to give you a band.

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Speaker 1: Is this band great or has a nostalgia made them greater?

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Speaker 2: This in our minds? This is crazy. I was just

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Speaker 2: talking to my son about being great. He was asking

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Speaker 2: me about movies. He's a big movie guy, and he

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Speaker 2: was like, what do you think about like people just

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Speaker 2: saying like movies aren't great, like maybe they don't like

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Speaker 2: it or they don't identify to it, but you think

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Speaker 2: it's okay just to call a movie great. And we

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Speaker 2: kind of this whole discussion about how you can call

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Speaker 2: whatever you want great or not great. It's art. And

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Speaker 2: that's what's kind of cool about this question.

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Speaker 1: I think too, as we get older, we have a

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Speaker 1: fonder view of things from when we were younger, even

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Speaker 1: if we didn't love it, then we associate a love

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Speaker 1: to that time. It's the same as people going, you

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Speaker 1: know what SNL cast was the best, and it's always

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Speaker 1: the one when you were like.

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Speaker 2: Twelve yep, and you were just a sponge too, Like

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Speaker 2: you're just taking in all kinds of media because for me,

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Speaker 2: it was like the Adam Sandler years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my favorite SNL class same because we're the

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Speaker 1: same age. And I'm sure if you went to other

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Speaker 1: people that are five ten years older than that's oh

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Speaker 1: Steve Martin, Ah yeah, yeah, so Eddie Murphy. These bands

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Speaker 1: are all super famous, are they and were they actually

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Speaker 1: great bands or are they just great now because.

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Speaker 2: We've associated some nostalgia. Okay, okay, fun train not great. Great,

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Speaker 2: not great, you go first, not great. They were really

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Speaker 2: great at producing music for the time because I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, when you got their first one, meet Virginia

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Speaker 2: was so different than like, hey, Soul's sister.

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Speaker 1: Meet and Virginia was so she doesn't know what.

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Speaker 2: Dress, hair is always a mess. Just let you welcome fast.

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Speaker 2: She's beautiful. Yeah, and even like but they're I feel

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Speaker 2: like their lyrics were always kind of quirky.

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Speaker 1: She smokes a pack of day Yeah that's me. But anyway, yes,

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Speaker 1: so I don't feel like that changed.

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Speaker 2: I think that's why I didn't call them great, because

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Speaker 2: they were so cheesy to me. You know, they thought

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Speaker 2: they were cheesy, like those lines, you know, like a

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Speaker 2: little stupid lines like that. But they but they were

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Speaker 2: Jupiter drops a Jupiter in Hey, Hey Jams two jams.

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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, good songs. Not a great band.

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Speaker 1: I think they were great. I think vocally a plus.

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Speaker 1: I think Pat Montan is really one of the great

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Speaker 1: vocal lead singers of the past thirty years.

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Speaker 2: And would you guess THEMB a rock band. They're a

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Speaker 2: rock band, Okay, I would, but then but then they

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Speaker 2: they're a pop band too.

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Speaker 1: I think the sound changed and time went on, so

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Speaker 1: they became like a hot adult contemporary.

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Speaker 2: Yes, like that that format they did have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see where some people think it's cheesy.

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Speaker 2: I love them. I think it's great.

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Speaker 1: I think if we're tied, we go to Mike, Mike,

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Speaker 1: Train not great?

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Speaker 2: What now that you might do? You have the same

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Speaker 2: reason I do.

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Speaker 3: It's like music you hear on a commercial.

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Speaker 2: You guys are such haters. Train talented, not great drops

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Speaker 2: a Jupiter, Hey soul sister, Hey sol sister. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: all those let's see.

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Speaker 1: I meant Virginia calling all angels.

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Speaker 2: What's the one that was a dut dum that's not

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Speaker 2: drive by? They stole that melody of whatever that piano

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Speaker 2: song is, but heart and saw the piano song. Yeah, uh,

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Speaker 2: marry me? How does that one go? I don't remember

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Speaker 2: that one?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: You? You marry me? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: If you lay here, hold on, I'll skip pep out.

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Speaker 1: Some of their stuff is really good. It's on TV commercial, Mike.

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Speaker 1: This song was on like a I think they made

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Speaker 1: it and then like a ring commercial.

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Speaker 2: Put it on because commercial, it's a tampon commercial. Oh no, I.

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Speaker 1: Love train, I say great. Although I did get out

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Speaker 1: voted on this one.

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Speaker 2: But that's okay. Talking to the microphone, Brandon, you have

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Speaker 2: one over there by you? Does it work? Brand it's

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Speaker 2: got his own microphone, he yelling across the room, Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 2: it is on my Yeah. Okay, what's the story that

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Speaker 2: dropped a Jupiter? All right?

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Speaker 5: So I didn't know this, but Pat Monahan wrote that

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Speaker 5: song about his mom because she died.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you guys been a little guilty, not yet.

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Speaker 5: Super bad, because I'm about to drop something on you. No,

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Speaker 5: his mom had had cancer and he was on the road,

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Speaker 5: you know, they were they had just got signed. H

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Speaker 5: They were saying, you know, the producer was like, you

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Speaker 5: guys got to write together as a band. And so

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Speaker 5: he kind of like wrote the song in private and

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Speaker 6: And he like recorded it on.

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Speaker 5: A tape forgot about it, and you know, handed his

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Speaker 5: manager whoever, some of the tapes, and the guy heard

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Speaker 5: drops the Jupiter.

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Speaker 6: He's like, dude, this is a generational song.

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Speaker 5: He's like really, He's like, you think, so you have

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Speaker 5: to record this right now and the rest is history.

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Speaker 1: So when I read you the lyrics, I think it

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Speaker 1: hits a bit different now that you know that's about

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Speaker 1: about his mom. Well, now she's back in the atmosphere

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Speaker 1: because she died.

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Speaker 2: I also thought it was Betsy's back in the atmosphere,

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Speaker 2: So okay, so wrong about that.

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Speaker 6: His mom's name is Betsy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so well, now back in the atmosphere, we drop

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Speaker 1: the Jupiter. Hey yeah, walks like summer talking like.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to Yeah? Oh man, So so what

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Speaker 2: even I feel different about that song? Tell me? So?

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Speaker 2: Did you know Taylor Swift covered it too?

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Speaker 4: That?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm looking at the tailor lyrics and at first

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Speaker 1: I ended up on the tailor lyrics and it was like, well,

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Speaker 1: now he's back in the atmosphere.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, so, Brandon, how did you know so much

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Speaker 2: about that song?

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Speaker 3: What's your vote?

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Speaker 2: Great? Well, he's gonna say great now, but let the

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Speaker 2: guy talk.

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Speaker 6: Here's the thing I can. I can see both sides.

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Speaker 2: No, don't, don't be a fensitter.

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Speaker 5: But what what takes it over the line for me

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Speaker 5: is I had Pat pat money and solo record and

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Speaker 5: it's so good to.

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Speaker 2: Do after Train after, but that doesn't count Brandon and

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Speaker 1: It's funny that you say that because it's Corn, Mike,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So your vote is I say great. I say

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Speaker 2: And I don't think there's anyone listening to him now,

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Speaker 2: Lead guitars of limb Biscuit.

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Speaker 1: He's the only guy I've ever seen go full black

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Speaker 2: Like you've ever seen that.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes he'll do like half black, half white.

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Speaker 1: But he his interviews are really cool and he's not

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Speaker 1: Are they there's probably a bit of they get greater

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Speaker 2: But I love them so much, you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: Fred Dorst was really cool to me when I was

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Speaker 2: Did you ever meet him? No? No, no, I meant,

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Speaker 2: And then you knew fredmates at Henderson State, no clue.

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Speaker 1: And now to watch him perform because they're doing massive

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're good on that one. Then Biscuit, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: I don't think lim Biscuit is as great as Train,

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Speaker 2: Who sadly, Oh yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: about her Walker Goo Goo dolls. Nah. Not great? Not great? Really? Nah?

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Speaker 2: Why because he's pretty? Is he pretty? He was pretty

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Speaker 1: He was like super good looking for like e lead

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Speaker 2: But he's not pretty like he's pretty. He's very pretty.

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Speaker 1: Feminine features, good looking guy, high cheek bones.

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Speaker 2: Good looking yeah. I mean I don't know, dude. It's

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Speaker 2: like what blew me on that song because I don't

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Speaker 2: I was never did. I just want you to know.

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Speaker 2: You can't tell him your name. Different song, bro, one

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Speaker 2: song to the other. Yeah. No, I mean a solid

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Speaker 1: And they said he was looking cut through. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: only thing that I was annoyed. I'm saying great. I

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Speaker 2: So you're going three greats so far. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think I've seen good all six or seven times,

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Speaker 1: really So what is he still pretty? He's older so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but still pretty. But Iris was a jam. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like their biggest songs though, aren't songs that I love?

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Speaker 2: Is Iris? The City of Angels one okay, and then

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Speaker 2: I won't tell them your name. That's called name. That

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Speaker 2: so why don't You Slide?

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Speaker 2: I love Black Balloon sing that one. I don't know

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Speaker 2: Are you is that? Are you being real selling black balloon?

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Speaker 3: That's all I know.

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Speaker 2: You're just saying the word black balloon. Yeah. Oh, I've

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Speaker 2: I love goog good Alls.

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Speaker 1: I think Goo Goole Alls Go Down is great for me?

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Speaker 2: Is any other?

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Speaker 2: Gone was a jam.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to sing them all near each other, but

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Speaker 1: I bought all the albums. I didn't realize You're such

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Speaker 2: Gone? I feel like I know Gone.

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Speaker 1: Another was some of this. They kind of kind of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, many when your sympathy not a no.

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Speaker 2: I't I ever heard that one. I'm going great, You're

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Speaker 3: They started as like an eighties.

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Speaker 3: I go back and listen to that stuff. So I

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Speaker 1: They're part that annoys me about them, or annoyed me

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Speaker 1: But the bass player had long hair and he always

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Speaker 1: because I was I was an album buyer of Goo

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Speaker 2: He always sang like two songs, oh he like he

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Speaker 2: And it was just so different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you like Goo Goo Dolls because of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is interesting, Brandon, you want to throw in,

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Speaker 1: I think they're great.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Really did you ever like open for them

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Speaker 5: I actually saw them in Austin. It was Life House

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Speaker 5: but seeing them live.

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Speaker 2: It was like, dude, yeah, they're good.

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Speaker 6: They're so solid.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever know the guys from Lifehouse?

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Speaker 6: I did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you ever play with them?

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Speaker 6: I didn't play. I wrote with the lead singer Wade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's you and me stuff.

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Speaker 6: Yeah he does.

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Speaker 2: Did We should try to get him on.

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Speaker 5: I had like all these like Lifehouse ideas basically didn't

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Speaker 6: And he's like, yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 5: Like we basically wrote like three Lifehouse ish songs and

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Speaker 2: Did they get cut? No? Okay, uh yeah a Lifehouse

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Speaker 2: was good. Dude. Brandon has so many crazy stories he does.

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Speaker 2: Brandon's be like, what do you do? What do you?

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Speaker 2: Did you ever write with Sugar Ray? Yeah, dude, that

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Speaker 2: wrote fly Funny. I saw Mark one day. I was like, dude,

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Speaker 2: like every morning, do you ever do anything? And Mark's

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Speaker 2: like every morning? It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Lifehouse has I think two real bangers. They weren't on

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Speaker 2: like this is this is when I just live in life. Man. Yeah,

443
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,159
Speaker 2: just hanging by a moment, right, I'm hanging by a

444
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,920
Speaker 2: moment here with you. And then because it's You and

445
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:59,960
Speaker 2: Me and all the No, Yeah, and I Can't Take

446
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,360
Speaker 2: was off of you. Same song, yeah, same song.

447
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 1: And then He I Think had a song no maybe

448
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:09,880
Speaker 1: thinking an Alex from a different band.

449
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 2: Was he bald?

450
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 6: No?

451
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:11,399
Speaker 5: No?

452
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 2: Good looking dude? Hey? Pretty even pretty gay? Right Brandon?

453
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,120
Speaker 2: Pretty good looking at Yeah? Yeah?

454
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 1: Okay, they weren't on the list, but Fun Throwback, smash Mouth,

455
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,119
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, why are you?

456
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 2: Why are you picking these bands? They're so cheesy, Like

457
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 2: you can go cheesy and go not. They're cheesy doesn't

458
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 2: mean they're not great. So oh man, that's tough. I'm

459
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,120
Speaker 2: gonna say not great. I'm gonna say not great to Okay,

460
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 2: good cheesy good. But started but they started off.

461
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 1: Much harder, like Walking in the Sun that was their

462
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 1: first hit. But they their their sound was definitely edgier.

463
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 2: I did like Walking in the Sun. I like that

464
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 2: sound of like almost.

465
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 1: Like the doors, Yeah, like doors keep the keyboard of the.

466
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 2: BA yeah yeah. And then All Star came and but

467
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,160
Speaker 2: they had success, so they kind of shifted that. Sugarade

468
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 2: did the same thing. They were harder, much harder.

469
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 1: The first Sugar Ray album whenever they had fly it

470
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 1: was pretty much a rock They were, and that was

471
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: the song that wasn't so rock that made them pop

472
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 1: and so everything else they turned into that.

473
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,199
Speaker 2: Dude, I remember seeing Sugar Ray with three eleven, and

474
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,120
Speaker 2: no doubt have you seen three eleven lately? I see

475
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 2: him on like tiny desk concerts or whatever, like eat singer,

476
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 2: pretty yeah, good good Now, obviously a good looking guy.

477
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 2: And he's the singer, right, not the rapper. He's a singer. Okay,

478
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 2: amber is the color of your energy. I've seen him

479
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 2: do that on TikTok. Yeah, good looking on TikTok. I

480
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 2: know that counts not a person. Okay.

481
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 1: So we're going smash mouthed, not great, not great.

482
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I got three more.

483
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Speaker 8: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.

484
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Speaker 7: This is the Bobby cast.

485
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Speaker 2: I don't even want to say this one. Come on,

486
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to say this one because I know

487
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 2: what you're gonna say. Is it cheesy?

488
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 1: You're gonna say that, and then I'm going to remind

489
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: you of something, and then you're gonna go yeah, but

490
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 1: and it's Creed.

491
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 2: Oh dude, not great, terrible.

492
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: Scott, come in, Scott, Scott. You just didn't like their sound.

493
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 2: No, they stole it from Eddie Vedder, They stole it

494
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 2: from Pearl Ja.

495
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: Like, No, I never thought the Creed sounded like Pearl

496
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 1: everyone thought.

497
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 2: When you say that.

498
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: I can definitely hear dmx jaw rule where you go, oh,

499
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 1: there might be something there, or maybe they're just the

500
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: two people that's saying somewhat similar.

501
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 2: There was even what was that on MTV where they

502
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 2: would fight? That was Scott's stap one, But do you

503
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: think that was made?

504
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: Do you think that was a narrative created by the press,

505
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: not so much Scott's stap emulating him.

506
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 2: I don't think Scott's. There are comedians that are They're

507
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: almost the same, but they that doesn't mean they took

508
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 2: it from each other. I've never heard Scott's staffs say

509
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 2: like I was influenced by Eddie, like oh I love

510
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: his voice whatever. I never heard anything. I've ever even

511
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: heard him like address anything about him sounding like Eddie

512
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: Butter I haven't either, because I don't. I never thought

513
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 2: of them in the same breath. Oh I always did,

514
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 2: And that's kind of why. Really at the very beginning, like, oh,

515
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: I don't like this. It's almost like John Michael Montgomery

516
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 2: when he came out. I was such a Garth Brooks fan.

517
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't I don't like this. I

518
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 2: don't like that John Michael Montgomery whar was a black

519
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: hat like Garth Brooks didn't sound like that either. Yeah,

520
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 2: you find weird things. Yeah, dude, I stand for my

521
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: original artist that I that I love. So you're going

522
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 2: no one creedy. No, you should.

523
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 1: Now if there's something you'd like to say, nice because

524
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: Scott's Stepp. I'm not saying because he volunteered his time

525
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: for our saint dude, I'm just saying as a performer.

526
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 2: I will tell you that I had a blast playing

527
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: with Scott Stapp at the Million Dollar Show. Was he good?

528
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 2: He's awesome. He was awesome, and he's a nice He's

529
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 2: a nice guy.

530
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 1: And he sounded exactly like the record.

531
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: He sounded great and he was very kind to everyone.

532
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 2: Like rockstar. You don't expect a rock star to be

533
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 2: like that. He was. I don't think he was.

534
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: I think no, I think nice all the time. I

535
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: think later in life, Oh, he really went through it.

536
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: It gave him some perspective. I think then he got

537
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: really nice.

538
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: Interesting. I didn't know him when he.

539
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: Wasn't really nice, but you can watch some of those

540
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 1: documentaries like him and Fred Durst got into a big

541
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: time really yeah, I think massive ego. I think even

542
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: said that Mike and the interview we do with him, Yeah,

543
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 1: that he was. He was problematic, but to us, awesome, great,

544
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: such a great vote he was.

545
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 2: He sounds you like the record due, I felt so bad.

546
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 2: Every tell you about when he we were singing together,

547
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 2: and and it was what songs did he sing with us?

548
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: He did do with arms? I did my own prison higher?

549
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 2: Can you take me higher? I think it was higher? Yep,

550
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: I mean Brandon was our guitarist. Yea, yeah, I think

551
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: it was higher.

552
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and weathered no sacrifice.

553
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 2: I think it was my sacrifice. And like he comes

554
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 2: to my side of the stage and I'm singing and

555
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 2: he puts the mic in front of my mouth to

556
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: sing the words. I don't know any Creed wars, and

557
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 2: so I just mumbled it was I was so embarrassed. Higher, awesome,

558
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 2: my sacrifice. Awesome. Just say it, Just say it with

559
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: arms water and just say you love it. I loved Creed.

560
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: What did you like about Creed? Their songs? That's it?

561
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: My own prison? There. What if that was hard? What if?

562
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 2: What if? What if? What if? You know what I

563
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: did like about that show. I loved how the crowd

564
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: loved it. You gotta be into it if you're a

565
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: Creed show like the crowd. You loved it. Oh at

566
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: our show and our show they lit up.

567
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that was cool to see. My own prison

568
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: was such a jam. It was never a pop song.

569
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 9: But quarters in session, the verdict on the docket tonight

570
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 9: just smile And then he goes.

571
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 2: And I said, dude, I was dating a girl like

572
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: in high school. That's a good story. And she's a

573
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 2: girl and she liked Creed and we broke up as

574
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 2: soon as you told me that I broke up. You're

575
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:58,479
Speaker 2: an idiot.

576
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: I wish I would have interrupted that in an idiot

577
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: because that got even more idiotic that you broke up

578
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: with it.

579
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: We can't be together. I have two more Kings of Leon.

580
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: Ooh great love Kings of the Leon. Great. Yeah, but

581
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: I don't know like they kind of you question yourself. Well,

582
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: the problem with the Kings of Leon is they fight

583
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 2: all the time and like family though family, I get it,

584
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: But like that and that was a documentary that I

585
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: was gonna put down they have are such a good

586
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: documentary when I almost put it down as well honorable mention,

587
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 2: but uh uh yes, dude, just to kind of see

588
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 2: how the lead singer and his brother fight and like

589
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: really fight, like I'm quitting the band.

590
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: It reminded me of redneck oasis, like rednecks, redneck Southern oasis,

591
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: American southern oasis.

592
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: And I like them. I think they're I mean, their

593
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: songs are awesome, even like the older stuff like the Bucket.

594
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: Do they have a big enough body of work though?

595
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: Because they have songs that are great, and I really

596
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: like everything about them sonically, their style, I just don't

597
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: know if they have enough. As a cat, I'm a

598
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: super casual, so I'm gonna admit that too that I

599
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: would go great.

600
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 2: They have great, they have a great body of work.

601
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's enough, though, to consider them great.

602
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm with you, like uh, some what's somebody,

603
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 2: somebody use somebody, sex is on fire?

604
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: I love you somebody.

605
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 2: Somebody someone like you. But I'm with you, dude, I

606
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: don't think they have enough there.

607
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: So I put these two last because it's what we're

608
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: going to get into They have a great documentary. I

609
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: encourage people if you're looking for a music documentary that

610
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: one's really good. They found their family, moved around. Dad

611
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: was like a preacher. Yeah, they put up tents. Leon tent?

612
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: Was it really Leon? Yeah, that's why they're the Kings

613
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: of Leon. I didn't really moved on. It's great.

614
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: The other one is Counting Crows.

615
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: Great, the greatest.

616
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: I mean, what's the people can argue the Beatles and

617
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: I go, you have your opinion.

618
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: The Counting Crows is amazing, amazing. They're an amazing, great

619
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: American rock band. And I'm glad to.

620
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: See them finally, as the kids say, get their flowers. Yes,

621
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: because now they're starting to really be respected. There was

622
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: about fifteen years or so in that transition from then

623
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: when they were extremely relevant to now when we can

624
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 1: finally appreciate them, that people kind of made fun of them.

625
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love Counting Crows my favorite band. How uh,

626
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 2: my favorite band, my favorite band? How early did you

627
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: get into count of Crows? Like the very beginning, mister Jones.

628
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: Yes, And then that's probably what got me there was

629
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: hearing that song on the radio, because that's how you

630
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: got anything back in the day. But that is my

631
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: comfortable album. I have two comfortable albums that I put

632
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: on and I can just let the world do his thing.

633
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: It's Counting Crows August and everything after that has Mister

634
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: Jones that has.

635
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: Round Here, round Here.

636
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: Agins Not Until Long December is next record. So people like, yes,

637
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: not that record, great song, perfect blue Build That and Continuum.

638
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: Are my John May my two favorite albums like those.

639
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: Another favorite album is the Beastie Boys Licensed Ill, But

640
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: that one doesn't make me relax.

641
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: No, that's like we're ready to party, dude.

642
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's just like, you know, energy, different vibe energy.

643
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 1: Counting Crows are really great, and what got me into

644
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: what we're about to talk about is their documentary.

645
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: By the time you guys watched this, it's out. It's

646
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: been out now.

647
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: We haven't seen it yet. This the day before it

648
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: comes out, but.

649
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: You sent me the trailer for it like three weeks ago,

650
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: and man, I've just been so excited to watch this thing.

651
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: Because it was cool to see the Counting Crows again

652
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 1: be celebrated.

653
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and my favorite My favorite thing about documentaries is

654
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: learning about the band. Like I feel like I know

655
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: a lot about the Count of Crows, but I really

656
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: wasn't you know, Like it's it's not like today where

657
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: you can just get online and get on the internet

658
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: and see everything like I don't really know.

659
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: You had to read it in a magazine or see

660
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: behind the music VH one.

661
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: You heard about his dating life like you heard, but

662
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: to see like images of him and Courtney Cocks together

663
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: or Jennifer Aniston, like it's gonna be cool.

664
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Speaker 1: He dated both of them crazy while they were both

665
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: on friends and same time. But still he did it

666
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: both of them while they were on friends.

667
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: I know it crazy.

668
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: It's been really cool to interview him a couple of times,

669
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: and I don't have a relationship with him, but he

670
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: knows you.

671
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: He knows you exists for sure, and we do DM occasionally.

672
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: That's awesome sparingly, but it's super cool.

673
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: The weird thing about my career has been I've gotten

674
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 1: to know some of like my musical or athletic heroes.

675
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: But when they're not when they're on the downside.

676
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: I never like, I never like get them in their prime.

677
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: But I think it's better that way because they're they're nicer. Now. Yeah,

678
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: you know, if you're going to meet Deon Sanders in

679
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: the at like the prime. We would never hear no,

680
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: no chance, hey, the prime of his career. I didn't

681
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: mean to do that. They did. There.

682
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: Oh so Counting Crows a new documentary. It's on HBO Max.

683
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: This is not a commercial for it. I sent Eddie

684
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: the trailer and then I sent it to my wife,

685
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: who does not like Counting Crows. She thinks it's middle

686
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: aged whining with a guitar behind it. And I said, well,

687
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: they weren't. I said they weren't middle aged though when

688
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: they recorded it. She only sees them now. Yeah, And

689
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: she said, not only will I not watch the documentary

690
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: with you, I'm not even gonna watch the TikTok you

691
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: sent me of the trailer.

692
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: I said, okay, you got it.

693
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're gonna do top five music documentaries ever, which,

694
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: by the way, I did watch the one that came

695
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: out a couple of weeks ago.

696
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: Jeff buck You watched the Jeff Buckley Jef Buckley?

697
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 8: Yeah?

698
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: How cool was that? Did you watch it? I did.

699
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: I didn't know his dad was famous. I did have

700
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: no idea either, I mean super famous, like knew Paul

701
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: McCartney famous.

702
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: I thought I was stupid because Tim Buckley no clue

703
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: was his dad and was famous. And when Paul McCartney

704
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: and his wind at the time, Linda, they were like, oh, we.

705
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: Knew your dad, And I'm like, wait, what famous? I

706
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: had no idea. I still don't know who that is.

707
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: And I said this to you when we were talking

708
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: about Jeff Buckley, I said he only has one album

709
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: because I don't. I didn't know a lot about him

710
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: other than really just a Leonard Cohen song.

711
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: Hell do you? Yeah? And Allie started to know that

712
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: because American idol and everybody singing in that yeah. And

713
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: I watched it. I thought it was good. Yeah, what

714
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: did you learn? Like, what's like one thing that you

715
00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: were just like? Wow, I didn't I didn't know that

716
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: about it. An the dad that a famous dad. I

717
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: had no idea that he had moved to Memphis. That

718
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: was what I was gonna say.

719
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: Next, he moved to Memphis. So he ends up drowning, Yes,

720
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: and in the Mississippi River. Yeah, and they called it

721
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: the Wolf River, yeah, which which is part of the

722
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: mississ Did you look it up after that?

723
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the same body of water that goes into it. Basically,

724
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: if you're ever downtown Memphis, there's just a little peninsula

725
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: in the river, and whatever's closest to the downtown area

726
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: they call that Wolf River. I guess, I don't know,

727
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: but it'sti the Missippi Rivers.

728
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: I always wondered why he drowned the Misissippi River because

729
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: I knew Hallelujah same And it turns out he was

730
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: living there, and I thought he was just touring, like

731
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: was on little Rock and exact.

732
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: That's what I thought, to or recording or something.

733
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: And the fact that he drowned I again because I

734
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: took the narrative of probably the internet. I thought he's

735
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: probably on drugs or something. He was just a guy

736
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: whos probably depressed when it jumped in the full clothes,

737
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: went to swim and then it was over like a

738
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: big dip or like a trench.

739
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: They had dodged, or and there's a current. There's current

740
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: and the.

741
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: Current got him and he couldn't swim up because he

742
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: were in full clothes.

743
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: So you don't think he did it on purpose. I don't.

744
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: That was always before I watched this documentary, it was

745
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: always like, did Jeff Buckley like commit suicide by jumping

746
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: into the river or did he was in an accident

747
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: And it was always just like, don't know. After watching

748
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: the documentary, I'm convinced that it was not a suicide.

749
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: And again, dovisionaries can make you feel a certain way,

750
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: but I feel the same way. I didn't think from

751
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: the very limited knowledge that I have on that.

752
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: Because he was suicidal. He was depressed. What artist isn't

753
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: going through right, You're only an artist and wanted to

754
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: create things because you're feeling you feel super deeply. But

755
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: then they make it seem like he was writing people

756
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: or calling leaving long messages on their answer machines. You know,

757
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: almost like he's saying goodbye because he didn' leave it. Yeah.

758
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to give the whole but it's good.

759
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: I thought it was good. I'd love to give it

760
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: three and a half out of five. I'm not a

761
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: huge Jet Buckley fan. I just only ever knew him

762
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: for one album, so I would discount him and being like

763
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: we only had one album. What I did learn too

764
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: is he knew who he was never straight from that. Yeah,

765
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: even if it didn't fit, because he was there when

766
00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: the grunge guys were rocking.

767
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was. He definitely had his own style.

768
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: Extremely not grunge. So that's one you can watch. It's

769
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: part of those music box documentaries that Bill Simmons does.

770
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: Did you have you listened to any of his music since?

771
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 6: No?

772
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: I thought, I want you to listen to the whole

773
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: Grace album. And you mean his whole one album? Well,

774
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 2: the one I think I think they released another one

775
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: they did of all the stuff that he'd recorded posthumously. Huh,

776
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 2: after he died. That's a that's a big word, after

777
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: he died, like recent. Yeah, recent, got it. It looks

778
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 2: like posthumously, posthumously. I've seen that word.

779
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, the Bobby Cast will be right back.

780
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 7: This is the Bobby Cast.

781
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: You want to go first? Yeah, you have honorable mentions

782
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 2: or no, I do have a lot of honorable mentions.

783
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: I'll just listen him. I don't I want to talk

784
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: about him. I'll just listen him. Do two honorable mentions?

785
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: Uh, Amy Winehouse great, almost put it on my list.

786
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: Great, tragic, like set real sad, really sad. I had

787
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: no idea that she wasn't that much. I don't remember, okay,

788
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: and then the n Sync one.

789
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: I never saw the documentary you never watched it on

790
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: in Sync?

791
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh so good, dude. I mean it tells you

792
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: everything about uh, the guy that's Starlin, Yeah, the guy

793
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: that started them. And I don't think I have no,

794
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: I didn't know they had. I don't even know what

795
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: it's called. They even talk about one of the guys

796
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: who can't it's almost like them trying to get Backstree boys?

797
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: Is it the boy band con one?

798
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: Brian can't sing? It's on everyone? Then what is it? Ryan? Brian?

799
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: Brian Littell can't sing? Okay, it's Brian Littrell. Then it's

800
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: back He's Backstree Okay, So I watched that. Is the

801
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: documentary on Backstreet Boys or in Sync or just boy bands?

802
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 3: It's plan, isn't it.

803
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 2: Yeah?

804
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: I think I know because they're getting back together. I

805
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: don't know, but I watched that one. See we're we're all.

806
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: The one you're talking about is not in Sync. It's

807
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: Backtory Boys.

808
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a really good documentary because he can't figure

809
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: out why you can't sing anything. He cannot. He's like

810
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: he tries to still can't. That's crazy, dude, somebody that

811
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 2: can sing so well for so many years and then

812
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: just the story of like Loop Prolman and yeah, bad dude.

813
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 6: Oh the Instinct one's called Dirty Pop.

814
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 2: I don't think that's it. I think mine's on Backstreet Voice. Okay, sorry? Uh.

815
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: The one that I have an on a mention is

816
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 1: a series the nineties music that defined a decade, seeing

817
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: ended a whole.

818
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: Series on Yeah, I remember that excellent, really good.

819
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: Didn't really count as as a one off documentary, so

820
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: I didn't put it on the list wonderful series.

821
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: They do great work on those docu series.

822
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, did you do five four three two.

823
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: And one or did you just do randomly? I do

824
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: five four three two one? All right? Give me a

825
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: five Running Down a Dream Tom Petty? Is that the

826
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: one that's like five hours long?

827
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 6: Uh?

828
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: It's pretty long. I want to say it's like maybe

829
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: three or four Okay, But dude, everything you want to

830
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: know about Tom Petty, this is before he died too,

831
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: so there's more to know about Tom Petty. But this

832
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: was all early Tom Petty, Gainesville, Florida, moving to Hollywood.

833
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: One big takeaway, I mean I saw this a long

834
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: time time ago, like early two thousands, and the one

835
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: big takeaway I remember from watching this documentary is I'll

836
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: never forget him talking about his dad, how his dad

837
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: never supported what he did. He actually tried to get

838
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 2: him to stop playing music for so long and then

839
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: he said, you know what, like screw you, I'm gonna

840
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: do it, and I'm gonna do it fully. And he

841
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: moved to Hollywood for sued music made. It was successful,

842
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: and he hadn't talked to his He hadn't talked to

843
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: his dad for like three or four years, and his

844
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: dad finally hit him up. He was like, I'm really

845
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: proud of your music. Was really good. Did they have

846
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: a relationship. No, he was like, screw you. He never

847
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: supported me, Why would you support me? Now? Greatest American

848
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: rock star is Tom Petty. I agree.

849
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: I didn't set it up as rage bait when I

850
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: said Dave Grole best rock and roll lead singer, lead singer,

851
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: That means he didn't.

852
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 2: Even think about Tom Petty. Do we we were talking

853
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: about that.

854
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: Solo artist the Heartbreakers Heartbreaker? Hey, no, you have to

855
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: do all the work together. He was with Heartbreakers. Some

856
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,479
Speaker 1: not with Heartbreakers. Heartbreakers can't be the greatest rock.

857
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 2: Band of all time? True because it was Tom Petty

858
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: and the Heartbreakers, and he didn't work with the Heartbreakers,

859
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: and he had that yeah, like wow, Yeah, it's like

860
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: saying the Wrecking Cruiser all time, so excellent, But they

861
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: can't be the greatest band of all time because he left.

862
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 2: He left him. Yeah, he was solo for a little bit.

863
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: I did say Food Fighters, in my opinion, the greatest

864
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: American rock band of all time, and mostly because they

865
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: have thirty years of extreme relevance, and people were going,

866
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: you're forgetting Journey, you idiot.

867
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not sary.

868
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: First of all, awesome, I didn't staple myself to the

869
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: fact that they are the absolute greatest. In my opinion,

870
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: they are the greatest American rock band of all time

871
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: because they've been able to stay relevant for three decades. Yes,

872
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: and they've had hits in every decade. They've won Grammy's.

873
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: I don't even know that they're my favorite to listen

874
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: to of every rock band, although I have seen them,

875
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, a dozen times.

876
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 2: But on Instagram, what people are going to tear you up?

877
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 2: Well so much so I don't look at comments anymore.

878
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the cool thing about that too.

879
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 2: And you talked a little bit about this is just

880
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 2: the fact that he was able to go from one

881
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: of the greatest rock bands ever to his own greatest

882
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: rock band ever.

883
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: But did it all by himself. At first made the

884
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: whole first Food Fighters record by himself, played everything. Yeah,

885
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: and so at number five.

886
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: You have to running down a dream, Tom Petty.

887
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: I have at five to one that came out pretty recently,

888
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: The Greatest Knight and Pop.

889
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: Oh my, how did I forget this dude? Which as

890
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: we are the world, I would totally put that on

891
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: my list. I cannot believe I forgot that one. That

892
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: one is so good.

893
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: So it's Lionel Richie, Michael Jackson. He did the documentary.

894
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: It's Lionel's documentary, but Lionel and Michael wrote it. And

895
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: it's how they.

896
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: Got all those stars together and.

897
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: Strategized how to get everybody together after that award show,

898
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: managed all those egos, got everybody parts. Some people couldn't

899
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: sing the Bob Dylan disaster that happened.

900
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 2: That was my favorite part. Bob Dylan. They thought he could,

901
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: I mean, they thought it was gonna be magic, and

902
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: Bob Dylan had no idea what to sing or how

903
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: to sing it. And Stevie Wonder had to show him.

904
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: He had to sing like Bob Dylan had get into

905
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: an impression of Bob Dylan.

906
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 2: To Bob Dylan, one are sitting there being like, hey, man,

907
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: just do it. Like hey, I'm like okay.

908
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: So at number five I have that it maybe a

909
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: bit of recentcy bias, but it was so good because

910
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: there were so many stars in that.

911
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 2: You know, I've watched that three times. Oh, so you

912
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: do love it, and not because I want to watch

913
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: it three times. I think it's more of like someone

914
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: was at the house. I'm like, have you seen this

915
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: documentary and they're like, no, let's watch it, and we

916
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: sit down and watch it.

917
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: I think we're going to have one similar one on

918
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: you think, So with four left, I think we're going

919
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: to match one. And I'm looking at specifically. I don't

920
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: think so okay, I'll let you go in before, but

921
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: it'll probably be one where you mentioned I'm like, oh,

922
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: I didn't not put that on my list. Number four

923
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: I want to put don't look back. It's Bob Dylan

924
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: and it's from nineteen sixty seven, so it's it's right

925
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: around the time where he had just gained success and

926
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: he's turning into he's going from folk to rock and

927
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: he's it's a tour in England and he's touring with

928
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: Donovan and the fifties crooner Yeah Donovan and uh Joan

929
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 1: Bias and.

930
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: Based Donovan a fifties crooner even or he's a sixties

931
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 2: he is a sixties like good looking at rockstar Superman

932
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: crooner type guy. Though yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yea, maybe

933
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: I think he had that song Superman in Greenland tun

934
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: I got a Davida that kind of sounds like that.

935
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 2: But anyway, they let this guy like just follow them

936
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: with cameras the entire time, and you get to see

937
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: every part of Bob Dylan, him going on stage, being awesome,

938
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: getting off stage and being like man, that was stupid,

939
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: Like why would they do that, Like they booed me,

940
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 2: and like this is so dumb that they would boo

941
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: me like that. And then you'd see him like you

942
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: know him and Joan Bias like just kind of there

943
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: was definitely something there. Well, they talk about it in

944
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: the Bob Dylan movie. They do in the movie, but

945
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: I think that that's why, like this documentary is kind

946
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: of what exposed all that. Uh, basically tells the story

947
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: of Bob Dylan based on these cameras being with him

948
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: on that tour, which is really really cool. Did he

949
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 2: was so freaking famous?

950
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: I was never a big Bob Dylan guy. I read

951
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 1: his book or not his book? I read a book

952
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: about Bob Dylan.

953
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: Oh have you not read his? His is good? Maybe

954
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: I did read his. He wrote one, but then he

955
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: did like volume It was only one that he wrote,

956
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: and it was like volume three and he never wrote

957
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: funny other ones one or two or four. Yeah.

958
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: I read a book about Bob Dylan. I didn't even

959
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 1: it's like Minnesota.

960
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: He's from Minnesota. Y. Yeah. Yeah.

961
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: Robert Zimmerman learned all of that stuff, but I never

962
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: really appreciate I'm starting to appreciate it more as I

963
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: get older, but I never really loved his music at

964
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: all growing up.

965
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: So what's cool. There's a whole chapter in that book

966
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: about the Nashville number system, you know, the the just

967
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: the how they play now, how they play chords and whatever.

968
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: And what's funny is he goes he breaks it down

969
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: into this like mathematical formula right in the book of

970
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: like they gotta do this, gotta do that, whatever, well,

971
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 2: this is such a braggy story. But when I met

972
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: Willie Nelson, I asked him about like, have you read

973
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: Bob Dylan's book. He's like, I'm not reading that crab.

974
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 2: He's foolish, so full of crap. I'm not reading any

975
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: of that. That's funny. But they were, I mean they

976
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 2: were friends obviously, and number four friends I put twenty

977
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: Feet from Stardom? Is that a about background singers? Oh,

978
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't.

979
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that one really good. I watched

980
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: it on Netflix when it came out. It's from twenty thirteen,

981
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: because I had to see how long ago it came out,

982
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: and it really talks about the struggles, how people end

983
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: up there, how people shoot to be that, how they

984
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: don't they get really paid for session work or touring,

985
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: but even if they're on records, they really don't get residuals.

986
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 1: Like Mary Clayton did Gimme Shelter and that is a prominent.

987
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: Part on Stones.

988
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she didn't get she got no songwriting credit,

989
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: no real royalties, just a one time union scale to

990
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: go in there and sing.

991
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

992
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: And Cheryl Crowe was a background singer because I was

993
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: from Michael Jackson for that's how they made their money

994
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: up front. Some people became background singers because they had

995
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: a field career. Some became background singers because they did.

996
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: They couldn't make that step. They got too nervous.

997
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 2: It's really great, great, which is Cheryl Growing that documentary

998
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: she is that's really cool. I should watch that, you'd

999
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: like it.

1000
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: I put it at number four because I think it

1001
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: added some perspective to what I think about background singers.

1002
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: So I just felt like they all, well, they just couldn't.

1003
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: They couldn't make it. They weren't quite good enough. And

1004
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: a lot of times they're better than the actual singer

1005
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: exactly they have and sometimes they have to put a

1006
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: governor on themselves to not out sing the star, the

1007
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: main person.

1008
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: I think one of Elvis's background singers, she wrote a

1009
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: book about how they had an affair. I would imagine

1010
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 2: that's happening all the time. But it's funny. You watch

1011
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: like Elvis Live in Hawaiian. Oh, they were definitely like

1012
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: they're eye contact. Go on, Elvis, all right, what do

1013
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: you got three? Get back the Beatles. Disney Plus came

1014
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: out like a few years ago. I know, I know,

1015
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 2: not my jam too much. I know it's a lot.

1016
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: If they were going to put that in a solid

1017
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: hour ten, I'd have been all in it.

1018
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: But I think that's what was so cool. I agree

1019
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: if that was for you, I think it was really cool.

1020
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 2: What's crazy to me is I think Peter Jackson. Was

1021
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 2: it Peter Jackson that had that did that? And it's

1022
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: not like he did much of it. It was all

1023
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: just footage that they found that they had never released before,

1024
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: and it was the Lord of the Rings he got

1025
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: playing based with them back and because that's what he did, right,

1026
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 2: is yeah, yeah, Lord of the Rings. Yeah? I don't know, dude.

1027
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: I remember when I after I watched it, Brandon, do

1028
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: you remember this? I called? You? Did? I called Brandon?

1029
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what Brandon was the dude that I called,

1030
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: But I'm like, dude, have you seen this documentary? It

1031
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 2: is unbelievable because it was like I'd never seen the

1032
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 2: Beatles create. I've always heard their music, I've always listened

1033
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: to the final product, but watching them create, and unfairly

1034
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: this was towards the end of This was the start

1035
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 2: of the end for them. You can kind of see

1036
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: like the disrespect they had for each other. Uh, some

1037
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 2: people getting there late to rehearsal late. Some people had

1038
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: been there, you know, Ringo had been there for two hours,

1039
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: like he can't doubt, so it wouldn't be late, so

1040
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be fired. So I don't know. I just

1041
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: loved seeing them act, not not play for the camera

1042
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: and just be themselves for hours and hours and hours.

1043
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: It was really cool to see that. If you're a

1044
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: Beatles nerd, I'm sure it's amazing you out you and

1045
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: you see Yoko, You see Yoko show up, you see

1046
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: Paul bring Linda around, you see the girlfriends interact, and

1047
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: it's just a very weird dynamic where you can see like,

1048
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, this is this is how it ended.

1049
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: I think the Beatles only made albums for like six

1050
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: or seven years they did.

1051
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: They weren't a band for very long, and they only

1052
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: toured for two years. Maybe they only toured so then

1053
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: they couldn't tour anymore because they were so big that

1054
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: all they did was just make records, so they would

1055
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: just to studio or and not play. That's what was

1056
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: so cool about the In this documentary, they play the

1057
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: roof of the record label that was their first That

1058
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 2: was their first performance in like years.

1059
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: I feel like your documentaries that you're listening are all

1060
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: elevated for music buffs or snobs.

1061
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's gonna get worse. Really yeah, mine, mine,

1062
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: don't mine.

1063
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: I get show out of my wife, I feel, and

1064
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: she'd like Them's.

1065
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 2: Not your wife wouldn't like the Beatles one. I feel

1066
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: like any of those. But I think for me is like,

1067
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: I know I've done so much research on music, Like

1068
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: if I like the band, I would do my own

1069
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: research on them, right. But when I watched documentary and

1070
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: I learned something about maybe a band I didn't really know,

1071
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: Like that's what I really love.

1072
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: She watched some of the Jeff Buckley with me, Does

1073
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: she like it? And she said, you're watching a documentary

1074
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: on somebody I've never heard of. She goes, that's weird

1075
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: that I don't know who this person is. And then

1076
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: I said.

1077
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: There was going to play. She goes, oh, for American Idol.

1078
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: You're like, no, yeah, but yes, yeah, I have at

1079
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: number three Oasis Supersonic.

1080
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: Never seen it? You never watched the Oasis documentary?

1081
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: Is this recent No? Twenty sixteen? But it's all about

1082
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: them breaking up. It's about them playing the biggest shows in

1083
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: the history of.

1084
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: Music, Glassenburg, it's I need to watch that.

1085
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: Oh plus and just their absolute distaste for each other,

1086
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: hated each other.

1087
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 2: Is it weird to you that they get along now? No?

1088
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: I think money is that conduit to bring people back together,

1089
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: because I don't.

1090
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: Think they needed money.

1091
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: Need I don't know subjective relative. Do they need money

1092
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: like people that live right down the road from us?

1093
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: Probably not, But it was so much money. And they're

1094
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: starting to be nostalgia now, not just a great band,

1095
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: but a nostalgic band that people would like, people that

1096
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: have money now or older, so they would go and

1097
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: spend money to see them.

1098
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: Do you get to know a little bit about both

1099
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 2: of them when you watch the documentary? Yeah?

1100
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: But I have trouble tell them apart still just by

1101
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: looking at them. Yeah, they look like the same person.

1102
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: I mean, who do you like better?

1103
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 2: Like? Who would you be friends with? More?

1104
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get them confused now. But there's one that

1105
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: wrote the songs. There's one that sang the song Noel wrote,

1106
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: Liam saying Liam saying so, which is wild because Liam

1107
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: could still go out and sing the songs and he

1108
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: was all the same, even though he didn't write them.

1109
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: For the most part, I don't know. I think I

1110
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: just probably would have not liked to have one of them.

1111
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: I think they're hilarious and I like to watch them

1112
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: on things, but me hanging out with them, I don't

1113
00:48:58,719 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: think I got.

1114
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: Along with that on them. I think Liam's funny. I

1115
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: think they're both hilarious. Yeah, yeah, I think they are funny. Yeah,

1116
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: but they're a lot. But you'd like that documentary, Okay,

1117
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: I want to watch that one.

1118
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 8: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

1119
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 8: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

1120
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: All right, go on number two. Okay, I for sure

1121
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: you've never heard of this one. But it's called Anvil.

1122
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 2: Did you're so no? No, no, dude, this is so

1123
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 2: good and I'm telling you you need no better than me.

1124
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 2: It's called Anvil. The Story of Anvil. Have you heard this? Okay?

1125
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: So this is from two thousand and eight Anvil. Do

1126
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 2: you know, Brandon, Dude? It is awesome, It's so good.

1127
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: It's about a band in the eighties called Anvil. Anvil

1128
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: Anvil like Villa is Anvil? However you say it? Go ahead? Okay,

1129
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: So their name is Annville, and they are it's like

1130
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty three and they're blowing up, like they open

1131
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: up for bon Jovi, They go on tour, open up

1132
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: for like all the eighties bands that you can think

1133
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: of massive, and then they just stop. They fall off,

1134
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 2: They fall off, they decide to not do it. No, no,

1135
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 2: they fall off like they're just not hitting anymore, like

1136
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: all these bands and the Scorpions everyone no hits. They

1137
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 2: all just blow up and they don't, but they're not

1138
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: giving up the dream. So it's basically this just cameras

1139
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 2: following them now that they're older, and they're older, they're

1140
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: like in their fifties and they're still trying to do

1141
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: it and they're like, man, we could still do it.

1142
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: Well they believe they can still believe they can do it.

1143
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:33,959
Speaker 1: So it happens funny and sad.

1144
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: Yes, it's funny because you're like, oh, guys, just are

1145
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: they on the joke? No, no, no, no, no, they're

1146
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: dead serious. Really, they're dead serious, and uh they book

1147
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 2: a tour. I think it's like you know, modern day,

1148
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: which in the when you watch doc Ma, it'd be

1149
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 2: modern day, but I think it was probably like fifteen

1150
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 2: twenty years ago, they book a tour and they're like,

1151
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 2: we're gonna do it. We're gonna go on tour, and

1152
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 2: no one shows up. Who's heard of them? Right, So

1153
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 2: no one shows up to their tour, to their shows.

1154
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 2: But I would say that it's a cool story of

1155
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 2: like people following in their dreams and never giving up. Like, yes,

1156
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: it was sad because like they just it's still rock

1157
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: stars and they're still trying to do it but nothing's happening.

1158
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: But they really do believe that that's their identity and

1159
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 2: they're going to do that till the day they die.

1160
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: Anvil the Story of Annville number two I have jagged

1161
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: Alanis Moore sent came on twenty twenty one. Same I

1162
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: believe it's music box Bill Simmons. I'm a massive Alantas fan,

1163
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 2: and I think it was the first like long form

1164
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: thing I'd ever seen on her. In her story and

1165
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: how she blew up so young and the story of

1166
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 2: that radio station playing you ought to know and then

1167
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 2: the video hitting and her face was covered, but then

1168
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 2: all the she wasn't ready for fame Canadian.

1169
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: It's it's really good. I think again, that's one that

1170
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: I think you can be a casual yeah, and you

1171
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: would just really enjoy her story. Super likable, so different.

1172
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: She ended up being a massive pop star, but she

1173
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: never was a pop star, meaning she didn't choose that route.

1174
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: She was a very distinct artist that started off and

1175
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: she was alternative music because you want to know, it

1176
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: was a freaking rock so that's what it was played on,

1177
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: like K rock in LA. And she got so big

1178
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: that she then became a pop star and her music

1179
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: then got poppiler.

1180
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: Do they follow her today? Yeah, they talked to her

1181
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: now that's cool.

1182
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: And then I think it's part of the reason I

1183
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: wanted to go to her residence in Vegas. And I

1184
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: don't know if she's still doing it now. I would

1185
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: love to go to that one. Yeah, So I have

1186
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: jagged at number two. I think I think my five

1187
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: people just watching or listen to this would like I know,

1188
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: gear five, if they are already in music.

1189
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 2: I think if they watched Annville, they'd love it. Okay,

1190
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: And I know I know your last one was it yours?

1191
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 2: Don't spoil mine, but but I definitely I think I

1192
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: know it what is yours? And I forgot all about it?

1193
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: My final favorite? No, they were a documentary of all time,

1194
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: and again it's you probably don't know what this artist is.

1195
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: I shut up with that, just say what it is.

1196
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: The Devil and Daniel Johnston.

1197
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: You know, I know Daniel Johnson is from Austin, but

1198
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: I don't know his music.

1199
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: I just know the picture of the frog. The story

1200
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 2: of Daniel Johnson is unbelievable. It's it's really cool. So

1201
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 2: Daniel Johnston was uh for people that don't know, he

1202
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: was an artist in the early nineties or maybe eighty nine,

1203
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: ninety eighty nine or whatever, and no one knew who

1204
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: he was. He wasn't a good singer, but his writing

1205
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: was unbelievable, and a lot of artists at that time

1206
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 2: Kurt Cobain, including Kurt Cobain, discovered him and thought whatever

1207
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 2: he was writing was so so good that they started

1208
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: covering his songs. And he had really like no idea,

1209
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: It's like, that's cool, like they're covering to my music.

1210
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: But I think in the ninety two, I think or

1211
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: ninety three MT Music Awards, Kurt Cobain wore his T

1212
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 2: shirt of the album cover and that kind of got

1213
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: him a lot of I don't know, a lot of exposure.

1214
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: Ended up being that Meal in Austin too, right, Yes.

1215
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so the story really is of him getting

1216
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 2: a little success from that. But just he struggled a

1217
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 2: lot with a lot of mental issues. He was schizophrenic,

1218
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: he had bipolar and somewhere in the middle when like

1219
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: he blew up and started touring and playing music professionally.

1220
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: Gibby Hayes, I think from the Butthole surfers gave him

1221
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 2: acid and it just threw him in a whole different direction.

1222
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: He fell in love with drugs, so mixed in with

1223
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 2: some mental problems. Like he was just out there. Like

1224
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: there's a story of his dad flying him to one

1225
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: of his concerts or whatever, and in the middle of

1226
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: the flight he like grabs he turns the plane off

1227
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 2: and like messes with all the switches and says, don't

1228
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: worry dad, Casper the ghost will fly us home. And

1229
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: they almost crashed. And so the story of like just

1230
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 2: I guess the demons that he had in him versus

1231
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: what he was really like and how good his music

1232
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: was and everyone discovering how good his music was is

1233
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: like really what the documentary is about. And it's so good, dude,

1234
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: so so good. Buttle Surfers, Pepper.

1235
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 4: I don't mind the sun sometime I can't tell you.

1236
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 4: Oh my lips and snow in my gloves. Johnny has

1237
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 4: some bonding and Don Rabbi that's a jam.

1238
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: Butthole Surfers.

1239
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I worked at an alternative station in college

1240
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: at the same time I ran it and we had

1241
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: to call him the bh surfers.

1242
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because you can't say because you can't say buttle,

1243
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 2: you can't. Now, not really a big deal. What do

1244
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: you think My number one is? It's searching for sugar Man.

1245
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 2: It is. And again, dude, I should have put that

1246
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 2: on my list. I thought that's the one. You'd have

1247
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: it so good.

1248
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: The guy is a local artist in Michigan, like Detroit,

1249
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: like played, was trying to make it but didn't. And

1250
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: his music Rodriguez, Yeah, his music got bootlegged into Africa,

1251
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: South Africa and they started creating all these stories about him.

1252
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: He died, but what they were doing is they were

1253
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: exploiting his music and they were making a bunch of

1254
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: money off of it, saying he died he didn't know.

1255
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 2: It was like a burnt CD, the gout Taken.

1256
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: He was as big as Elvi US, he was huge,

1257
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: and in South Africa, all of South Africa thought he

1258
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: was dead.

1259
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: They celebrated, everybody knew his music because the storyline was

1260
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 2: that he had killed himself. Yeah, he was like the

1261
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: number one artist where and now in the US he's

1262
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: like just as homeless guy.

1263
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: Or like a guy really yeah, really struggling around on

1264
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: the edge. And then he finds out that he's so

1265
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: famous and he goes over and has a concert.

1266
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: So cool, really crazy, such a good story. Yeah, that's

1267
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 2: a you know. The other one I almost put in

1268
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: was is it called Me and Bobby McGhee. Oh, I

1269
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 2: watched that one. It was the Janis Chops. Yeah, well

1270
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: I forget what it's called. He was called Janis Gosh,

1271
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 2: I don't remember whatever it is. That one kind of

1272
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: hurt my heart a little bit.

1273
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: That would have made honorable mention because of how people

1274
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: were so mean to her, Yes, because how she looked

1275
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: and she's so good.

1276
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 2: And I had no idea that her and Jerry Garcia

1277
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 2: were a thing in San Francisco, like loved each other,

1278
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 2: they like lived together. Yeah, what is that one called?

1279
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: It is called Janis, But that's wait what.

1280
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 3: Janice little blue girl? It was the full title.

1281
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: Something I learned from that because obviously I know, Oh Lord,

1282
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: won't you buy Me? Mercedes Benz Da Da Da, And

1283
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: I know me and Bobby McGee, and I knew that

1284
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 1: she didn't write the song, but I didn't know that

1285
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: it came out after she died.

1286
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: I never know she had. She didn't to celebrate having hits. Yeah,

1287
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: I didn't know that either. You wrote it, Chris Christopherson,

1288
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 2: that's correct. And uh, I think Mercedes Benz ended up

1289
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: being a commercial right and she hated that or was

1290
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: it after the fact.

1291
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: I think it was after But I don't know. I

1292
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: just know Boby McGee her her biggest song that come

1293
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: out after she died.

1294
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: Dude, I've seen so many music documentaries. I would rather

1295
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 2: watch a music documentary over a movie that someone's like

1296
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: everyone in the world's talking about, Oh you need to

1297
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 2: watch this, And if I see a documentary I want

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Speaker 2: to watch, I'd rather watch it.

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Speaker 1: And then you say, people, you don't who this person

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Speaker 1: is that I watched it.

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Speaker 2: It's great, But that's the best part about the documentary,

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Speaker 2: watching and learning who a person is. I don't know who,

1303
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 2: but you just act better than people. It's not true.

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00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: Three times you said you don't know who this is?

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00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: But did you who Anvil was?

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. You can just talk about you,

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00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: but you can just talk about it, and I have

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00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: to just who else you don't know who this is?

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Speaker 2: That I only said that about Anvil because you know

1310
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: Bob Dylan and Tom Petty and the Beatles. Okay, uh what? Oh?

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Speaker 2: I watched Selena? Have you watched that one? That's brand

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Speaker 2: new on Netflix? A series? No, it's so a documentary.

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Speaker 2: That one's really good. Again.

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Speaker 1: I was never drawn to Selena because in Arkansas, because

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Speaker 1: you're not Mexican. Was it wasn't a big Selena state.

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Speaker 2: I know this song I could fall in love however

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Speaker 2: that goes.

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Speaker 1: I knew that from the radio a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: I didn't live in Texas or Mexico or California all

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Speaker 1: that all that documentary.

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Speaker 2: So I didn't really know where.

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Speaker 1: I knew more about her story after she was killed,

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Speaker 1: because that became a bigger news story than that's than

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Speaker 1: that song was a hit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and her dad just died recently, really like this week,

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Speaker 2: everyone's not wrong here. It wasn't American though, yeah, oh yeah,

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00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: she's American and so the part you'll see in the

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Speaker 2: documentary if you if you watch the documentary, she's not

1329
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: She didn't know Spanish, that's right. And so they would

1330
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Speaker 2: try to go like play shows in Mexico and she

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00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 2: would they would do interviews in Spanish, and she was struggling.

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00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 2: So they're like, you need to start like learning Spanish.

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00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 2: So she did, and ud everything was on her. It

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Speaker 2: was it was a family band, but everything was on Selina,

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00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: like all the interviews were Selina, Selina, Selina, and she

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Speaker 2: had to learn Spanish. She had to be the face

1337
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: of the band. And she didn't have a childhood. Like

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00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 2: they started singing. They were a family band since they

1339
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 2: were like little little kids, and they never had a childhood,

1340
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: so she didn't have friends. She married, you know, her

1341
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: guitarists because that's all she knew. Didn't you have a

1342
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: song shakey bombond no beatty beaty bombon Ricky Martin, Chicky Bombine,

1343
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: chakey bomb bomb, shaky bombbon I could see where you

1344
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: Beaty bombomb very similar similar enough?

1345
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: Does Bettie mean shake it by any chance?

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00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: Beatty Beatty's what I mean? I think it's just a sound, right, Mike.

1347
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 2: So it's not shady beat bum boom. Yeah, that's a

1348
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 2: good one. It's a jam. I like that one. And

1349
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Speaker 2: then dream that's a good one of you. Tom. I'll

1350
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 2: be holding you, Ty, And there's nowhere in the world

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Speaker 2: i'd rather the best.

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Speaker 4: This is you, Okay, deep in your arm, lying here

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01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 4: and me.

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01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: Dreaming of you. Right, I don't know. Yeah, it did

1355
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: so good.

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01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for reminding me that I am not.

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01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 2: Stop stop you know, all of these bands except Annvil,

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01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: Thank you guys. I think we're done. Yeah, I think

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01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: we're done.

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Speaker 1: You know what music documentary I didn't like that much

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01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: that I really had high hopes for was the Beastie

1362
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: Boys one, Mike. You know why because I love beast Boys.

1363
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: Because they were doing that in the theater.

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01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't like that. Part of it was that

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01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 2: the one where they gave everyone a camera. Do you

1366
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: ever see that one? Yes, it's like, man, I shot.

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01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: That they gave everybody a camera at a live show. Yeah,

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01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: and they had a all record and they edited, they

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01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: edited it all together.

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01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: They just put all the fudge together and they edit

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01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: it together. It's not that this is oh, it's a

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01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: different documentary.

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01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: This came out on Apple. I was super pumped.

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Speaker 2: I love beast Boys.

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01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just too much live stage really, Yeah,

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01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: but it was interesting because you know there was a

1377
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: girl in the band originally kicked her out the Beastie Boys.

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01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 2: Huh really well I didn't know that. And what was

1379
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: her name? Beastie. That's it, okay, Beastie girl. You know

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01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 2: which other one's good that we didn't talk about? Wash

1381
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 2: The one was the one where Elvis goes to the

1382
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 2: White House. I'd see that one. Oh, yes, you did.

1383
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 2: Remember he's trying to get He's trying to get like

1384
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: a DA badge. That's all he wants. He wants to

1385
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 2: get a DA badge and he wants to be like

1386
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 2: a what do you call it, like when you're you're

1387
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: not really an agent, but you're honorary agent. They're like,

1388
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 2: so he goes. I mean they like decline his entry

1389
01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: to the White House, like over and over. He's like, no,

1390
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: I want to be the president. I won't get my badge.

1391
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 2: And I think the president was Nixon. Yeah, you still

1392
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: see that one.

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01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if I saw it, but I know

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01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: I've seen the picture of him. Like, yeah, they were

1395
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: finally like all right, let him in. The primary girl

1396
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: in the Beastie Boys was Kate Shellenbach, the original drummer

1397
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: from eighty one to eighty four, who was instrumental in

1398
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: their early punk sound, but was asked to leave as

1399
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: they transitioned to hip hop, a decision the band later regretted,

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01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: with Shellenbock going on to co form Luscius Jackson. Another

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01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: significant woman is Kathleen Hannah, vocalist for Bikini Kill and

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01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: who became Adrock's wife. But it was Kate Shellenbach.

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01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 2: Were they still the Beastie Boys when she was part

1404
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 2: of the band or did they kick her out?

1405
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: And then, like, I don't know, I've seen a long time.

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01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: I did have a Beasty Boys book there though.

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01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 2: I saw that. Yeah, Spike Jones, Yeah that's it. Thank

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01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 2: you everybody.

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01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: And if you're watching on Netflix, I don't know how

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01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: because this isn't up there yet. But I don't really

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01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: know yet when we're starting on Netflix. This podcast will

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01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: be on Netflix starting in January, suppose probably mid to

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01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: late January, but we don't know yet when it's starting.

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01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: So we should have just picked all Netflix documentaries. Well,

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01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 2: this isn't on Netflix, though, you can plan it that way.

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01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 2: You're trying to get your big shot on Netflix. Yeah, dude.

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01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 2: Hey Mom, we're not going yet though. You have to

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01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 2: go on YouTube. Mom, I know you're watching Netflix right now.

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01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Thank you everybody, and we will see you guys next time.

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Speaker 7: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production