WEBVTT - Whine About It: Brain Trust

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been more excited to interview someone today. His

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<v Speaker 2>name is doctor Amen and I've been following him on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 2>stalking him and just liking commenting. He is incredible and

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<v Speaker 2>he has a new book called a new book out

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<v Speaker 2>called Change Your Brain every Day, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about all things brain today. But he has helped

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<v Speaker 2>millions of people change their brains and lives. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>founder of Aiming Clinics where you can scan your brain,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll talk more about that. He's a psychiatrist and

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<v Speaker 2>a clinical neuroscientist, So let's get him on doctor Amen.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, how are you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good to meet you, like in person, because

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<v Speaker 2>we've been emailing. I think that's been you. Has it

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<v Speaker 2>been you or is it your people? I'm so bummed

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<v Speaker 2>that we can't do the scan your brain thing this month.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the movie kind of a little wrench into plans.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I couldn't tell y'all at the time because

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<v Speaker 2>it was still too early. But I'm actually pregnant, so

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know if you can also scan a brain

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<v Speaker 2>when you're pregnant.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, congratulation, thank you, And we can do a different study.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't do the spec study because of the radiation,

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<v Speaker 3>but we do another study called quantitative EEG that looks

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<v Speaker 3>at electrical activity. Okay, and there's no harm to the baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so fascinated by just everything in the brain because

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<v Speaker 2>to me, when you when you break things down, like

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<v Speaker 2>science does not lie, right, I mean, would you agree

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<v Speaker 2>with that, like DNA that's not me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean something's right, but scientists lie a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Well okay, so yes, But like the when you really

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<v Speaker 2>break it down though, like if you were to do

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<v Speaker 2>you know, logic, so like the logic of things like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it's logical some of the things that Like

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<v Speaker 2>when I hear your things, I'm like, well, yes, like absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>like alcohol probably isn't great for your brain.

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<v Speaker 4>It's definitely not.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I just ask one question though, Like I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>used to have the occasional not occasional, I would have

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<v Speaker 2>like the glass of wine a day, right because that

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<v Speaker 2>would be my chill mommy moment. But now I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I've been watching your stuff, and I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I could really see how you know the impact on that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then my fiance he's a football soccer coach, and

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<v Speaker 2>so you know he's he did save all the studies

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<v Speaker 2>about how alcohol affects, you know, just everything. And so

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<v Speaker 2>what is your recommendation? Is it like you go dry

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't drink it all or can you have

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<v Speaker 2>it in moderation?

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<v Speaker 3>So we should actually chat about moderation. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>a gag way thought to hell because as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>you say moderation, it means you're gonna cheat. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>not a fan of alcohol. I mean, one, it's a disinfectant,

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<v Speaker 3>so why are you going to drink a distant effect?

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<v Speaker 3>And when you have one hundred trillion bugs in your gut?

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<v Speaker 3>And any alcohol is associated with an increased risk of

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<v Speaker 3>seven different types of cancer. And so if we're bombarded

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<v Speaker 3>with alcohol messages thirty commercials during the Super Bowl and

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<v Speaker 3>no as I've been a psychiatrist for over forty years

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<v Speaker 3>now and it's probably the number one reason people come

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<v Speaker 3>to see me. It's either they're addicted or their behavior

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<v Speaker 3>is bad where they say something when they're drinking that

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<v Speaker 3>they normally wouldn't have said. And then when the American

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<v Speaker 3>Cancer Society comes out against any alcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yes, right right, I mean, I hear you.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you say moderation is cheating, that's again logic

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<v Speaker 2>to me. But I would have never thought of it

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<v Speaker 2>that way or said it that way because it's true

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<v Speaker 2>because I kind of live my life like, well, everything

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<v Speaker 2>in moderation, like I'll have a brownie, you know maybe

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<v Speaker 2>when you know, every once in a while. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to have it every night, but i'll have you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everything in moderation has always been my saying, and now

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's a saying to say.

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<v Speaker 3>People come up to me all the time and they go, well,

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<v Speaker 3>what about everything in moderation? And I know as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as they say that, they're gonna cheat. And Drew Carey,

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<v Speaker 3>who the comedian who lost a lot away, he said

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<v Speaker 3>something so profound. He said, eating crappy food isn't a reward,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a punishment. And when you understand that, it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>why are you going to have a cheat day? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>if you are an alcoholic, you're not gonna have a

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<v Speaker 3>cheat day.

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<v Speaker 4>That would be dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you're a sex addict, you're not going to have

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<v Speaker 3>a cheat day, or a smoker you're not gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>a cheat day. You have to ask yourself what do

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<v Speaker 3>you really want? And for me, I want energy, and

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<v Speaker 3>I want memory, and I want focus and I want passion.

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<v Speaker 3>I want connection and purpose. So when I look at

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<v Speaker 3>the things that I might cheat with, I'm like, doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>fit me, doesn't fit what I want. And so too

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<v Speaker 3>often when people are I call them babies and brain help, they're, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't have this and I can't have.

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<v Speaker 4>That, but what are you trading it?

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<v Speaker 3>Like? I only want to love food that loves me back.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you've ever been in a bad relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>I have, and I'm not doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't google me, have you?

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<v Speaker 3>I am not doing that anymore, and I'm certainly not

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<v Speaker 3>doing it with the things I eat or the things

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<v Speaker 3>I drink.

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<v Speaker 2>Right well, speaking of bad relationships, and I would love

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of switch gears to, you know something brain

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<v Speaker 2>wise stuff I didn't know. So I was in a

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<v Speaker 2>really bad abusive relationship when I was nineteen and she

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<v Speaker 2>tried to kill me.

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<v Speaker 1>He went to jail. It was the whole, the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And from that relationship, I had really, really, really bad PTSD,

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<v Speaker 2>where I just I couldn't even leave my house. I

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<v Speaker 2>was afraid for my life. I even though I knew

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<v Speaker 2>he was in jail, I would still see his face.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was just And I ended up going

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<v Speaker 2>to my therapist. And I'd never been on an anxiety

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<v Speaker 2>medicine and never even had anxiety attack until after this

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<v Speaker 2>incident had happened where you know, he was on top

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<v Speaker 2>of me and you know, beating me up and choking me.

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<v Speaker 2>And so so from that moment, anytime I ever feel

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<v Speaker 2>trapped or claustrophobic, like I will start to have an

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<v Speaker 2>anxiety attack or again being on in person. This was

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<v Speaker 2>back in my early twenties, and I remember going to

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<v Speaker 2>my therapist going, if you don't prescribe me something now,

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<v Speaker 2>like I can't live my life like this anymore. And

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<v Speaker 2>so then he was telling me about like the serotonin

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<v Speaker 2>levels in your brain and do you how do I

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<v Speaker 2>say this?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that? Wit?

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<v Speaker 3>Let me?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm separate that. So there's that piece. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>was on medicine for almost nineteen years. I've recently just

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<v Speaker 2>got off my Lexapro a year and a half ago,

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<v Speaker 2>so I've been without anxiety medicine for a year and

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<v Speaker 2>a half and I know now how to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>anxiety and it doesn't take over my life the way

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<v Speaker 2>that it used to. But I've had someone else who

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<v Speaker 2>I was recently had they were having an anxiety we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it, and she said she had one anxiety attack.

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<v Speaker 2>The doctor prescribed her medicine. And I'm like, why so soon, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>you just had one anxiety attack, Like why would you

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<v Speaker 2>just She's like, well, they were saying the serotonin levels

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<v Speaker 2>are now going to be messed up. And I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but you only had one, Like maybe your body was

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<v Speaker 2>just not it was fearing something in that moment, and

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<v Speaker 2>like that's what you should look into.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess my question is, like, how does it?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was told medicine is the only way to

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<v Speaker 2>fix the serotonin levels late.

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<v Speaker 1>Crap, mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just the Yeah, And perhaps if I had been

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<v Speaker 3>treating you, I would have given you medicine, but it

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<v Speaker 3>had never been the first thing I did.

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<v Speaker 4>The only thing I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever had em DR A specific so EMDR

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<v Speaker 2>is what saved me basically, I mean that was I

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<v Speaker 2>did that for three years, you know, in the therapy

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<v Speaker 2>that I was doing, and that had that helped me

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<v Speaker 2>get back on a car in a freeway, that helped me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, do all the things that was keeping me

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<v Speaker 2>locked in. So yeah, I mean I'm a huge advocate

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<v Speaker 2>for EMDR because it helped me a ton. And then

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<v Speaker 2>post divorce was when I was like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't had an anxiety attack at all. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was my body's way of going, you're safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you can get off your medicine. So and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if that is in relation to it, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe my levels just I don't know, like, is there

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing I wanted. I would love to know,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm like, is it just the many years I

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<v Speaker 2>was on and my body just kind of stabilized, or

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<v Speaker 2>was it I got out of a toxic situation and

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<v Speaker 2>I felt safe and then I don't fear anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, trauma gets stuck in your brain, and EMDR helps

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<v Speaker 3>to get you unstuck. And then of course, learning how

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<v Speaker 3>to not believe every stupid thing you think, learning how

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<v Speaker 3>to settle your body, either with things like hypnosis or

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<v Speaker 3>meditation or diapframatic breathing, something I like a lot too

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<v Speaker 3>called vaguel nerve stimulation can just help calm your nervous system.

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<v Speaker 3>You see the problem with psychiatric drugs is once you

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<v Speaker 3>start them, they change your brain to need them in

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<v Speaker 3>order for you to feel normal. And having one panic attack,

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<v Speaker 3>often people go to the emergency room. They end up

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<v Speaker 3>an SSRI, or they end up on a benzo for

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<v Speaker 3>God's sakes, which are addictive and increase your risk for

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<v Speaker 3>Alzheimer's disease because it's a short term fix. Helps you

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<v Speaker 3>feel better fast, but clearly doesn't last. And I want

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<v Speaker 3>you to feel better fast, but in ways that lasts

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<v Speaker 3>over time that support the health of your brain rather

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<v Speaker 3>than hurt your brain. Like I'm not a fan of benzo's.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I rarely prescribed them because once you start them,

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<v Speaker 3>people don't stop them.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like, well, you haven't been anxious your whole life,

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<v Speaker 3>Now you have a panic attack or you have seven

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<v Speaker 3>of them, and then you're not dealing with what's the cause,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the root? And I think for you, given the

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<v Speaker 3>severe abuse, you had to calm down your brain. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know magnesium does that, or Ashua Gandha does that,

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<v Speaker 3>or Fielning does that, and why not start with natural things?

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<v Speaker 3>And then if they don't work. Go stronger and stronger

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<v Speaker 3>until you get something that works. But I found emd

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<v Speaker 3>are so helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is.

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<v Speaker 2>And she did that in brain spotting, so I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know like what the exact difference is, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>she kind of did both at the same time in

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<v Speaker 2>a way, and it was yeah, I mean it's changed

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<v Speaker 2>to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was. It was incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>And I love another one called Havening. So now when

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<v Speaker 3>you get upset. So they're all based on this bilateral

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<v Speaker 3>hemisphere stimulation. If you stimulate one side of the brain,

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<v Speaker 3>then the other one side, then the other one side

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<v Speaker 3>than the other, and that's what they do with the

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<v Speaker 3>eye movements or the tapping.

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<v Speaker 4>Ron.

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<v Speaker 3>Rudden out of New York found if you just do this,

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<v Speaker 3>go into the thing that's bothering you or I guess

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite.

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<v Speaker 4>One is this.

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<v Speaker 3>It really just seems to calm you down.

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<v Speaker 4>Like how simple is that?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know it's simple to take a medicine, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, something like lexapro can decrease or libido make

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<v Speaker 3>it harder to have an orgasm.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's it's like, well, why are we going

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<v Speaker 4>to do that first?

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, interesting and I'm so curious too when we

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<v Speaker 2>do the scan your brain because you have how many

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<v Speaker 2>different locations do you have? Around eleven eleven? That's amazing

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm so fascinated by your story with your nephew,

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<v Speaker 2>and I really encourage people to go to your page

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<v Speaker 2>and just read everything about you, but just hearing how

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<v Speaker 2>certain things that can you know your brain, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>can just trigger everything with like who you are and

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<v Speaker 2>how you are.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just I'm curious to see like what we

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<v Speaker 1>see when we do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I feel like we have to have a part

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<v Speaker 2>two to this podcast to be like, all right, let's dissect.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what my brain like.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we look at it, would you be like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, this is what you need to do or like,

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<v Speaker 2>how does that like?

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<v Speaker 1>Where do we go? Do you give me like a

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<v Speaker 1>game plan?

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<v Speaker 3>So we do a study called brain spectumagaine, and spec

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<v Speaker 3>looks a blood flow and activity.

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<v Speaker 4>It looks at how your brain works.

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<v Speaker 3>And basically tells us three things. Is it healthy, interactive,

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<v Speaker 3>or overactive? And then my job becomes balancing it. But

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<v Speaker 3>when you come to see me, we're going to take

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<v Speaker 3>a really detailed history. I want to know the story

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<v Speaker 3>of your life, because I have to put your scan

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<v Speaker 3>in the context of your life, and then you bet,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll give you a plan and if it's really healthy,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll celebrate. And if it's not well rehabilitated, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I love making bad brains better. So that's like my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite thing to do. I did the big NFL study

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<v Speaker 3>when the NFL was sort of lying it had a

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<v Speaker 3>problem with traumatic brain injury and football.

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<v Speaker 4>High levels of damage.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop lying about it. But eighty percent of my players

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<v Speaker 3>get better when we put them on a rehabilitation program,

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<v Speaker 3>which is basically three things. Brain envy. You got to

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<v Speaker 3>start caring about your brain. Freud was wrong, venus envy

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<v Speaker 3>is not the cause of an anybody's problem. Haven't seen

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<v Speaker 3>it once in forty years. He had the wrong organ.

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<v Speaker 3>It's your brain. So that's step one. Care two. So

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<v Speaker 3>you have to start avoiding anything that hurts your brain.

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<v Speaker 3>And just know the list, from going to bed late

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<v Speaker 3>to alcohol, marijuana, to bad food to being overweight. To

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<v Speaker 3>avoid those things and then do regular things that help

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<v Speaker 3>your brain. Multiple vitamin especially B vitamins B six, B twelve,

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<v Speaker 3>and FOL light have been found to enhance memory and

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<v Speaker 3>actually decrease the conversion of this thing we call mild

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<v Speaker 3>cognitive impairment. You have mild memory problems to severe memory problems.

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<v Speaker 3>Vitamin D. People have low vitamin D have smaller brains.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, how simple is that? Take five thousand units

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<v Speaker 3>of vitamin D a day, Omega three fatty acids. Put

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<v Speaker 3>my players on a special cocktail of supplements that help them.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighty percent of brain damage players got better on our program.

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<v Speaker 3>How exciting is that you're not stuck with what you have.

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<v Speaker 3>You can make it better.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever see a world where insurance companies would

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<v Speaker 2>let would have would pay for, not pay for, but

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<v Speaker 2>help pay for brain scans, since the brain basically controls

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<v Speaker 2>our body. And it is with mental health illness on

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<v Speaker 2>the rise and with you know people like this would

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<v Speaker 2>help people so much.

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<v Speaker 3>I think so, but not until we change the pair paradigm.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem is with the words mental illness.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that okay tummy because.

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<v Speaker 3>It shames people. It stigmatizes people, and it's wrong. Until

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<v Speaker 3>psychiatry stops acting like it did in the eighteenth century,

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<v Speaker 3>making diagnoses based on symptom clusters with no biological data.

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<v Speaker 3>Until we stop this crazy paradigm that makes pharmaceutical companies

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<v Speaker 3>uber wealthy and people poor. See our database is now

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred and thirty thousand scants. And the big lesson

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<v Speaker 3>is most psychiatric illnesses are not mental health issues.

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<v Speaker 4>They are brain health issues.

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<v Speaker 3>And that one idea changes everything. Rather than go to

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<v Speaker 3>a therapist and talk about your mind, should we go

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<v Speaker 3>to a therapists and talk about, well, how's my brain?

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<v Speaker 3>How's the physical functioning of my brain? I'm in Justin

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<v Speaker 3>Bieber's Docusaries seasons because I've been as doctor, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like many famous people, he'd come, he'd not come, you'd

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<v Speaker 3>do it, I say, mostly not. And then when it

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<v Speaker 3>was gone through a hard time, he came and he

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<v Speaker 3>said something so profound. He said, I think I get

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<v Speaker 3>what you're trying to tell me. My brain is an organ,

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<v Speaker 3>like my heart is an organ. If you told me

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<v Speaker 3>I had art problems, I'd do everything you said. And

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<v Speaker 3>then as he engaged in brain healthy habits, he lost

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<v Speaker 3>the bipolar disordered diagnosis, and other psychiatrist dave them and

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<v Speaker 3>he did much better. So it completely changes the focus

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<v Speaker 3>away from your mind, which is vague and hard to define,

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<v Speaker 3>to the physical functioning of your brain.

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<v Speaker 2>So fascinating, and again like, yeah, if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>it like that, I mean, if you told me that

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<v Speaker 2>I had That's why I want to go sobout so

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<v Speaker 2>why I want to do all the scans to be right?

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<v Speaker 2>What do I need to like do to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that I stay healthy? And I love you with your

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<v Speaker 2>book change your brain every day? I mean you give

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<v Speaker 2>every day how to change your brain something for so

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<v Speaker 2>what's a few that the book right now? But also

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<v Speaker 2>what are a few things to help change your brain

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<v Speaker 2>that you write?

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<v Speaker 3>Start every day?

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<v Speaker 4>It'd be a great day.

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<v Speaker 3>I really to train your brain to look for what's

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<v Speaker 3>right rather than what's wrong. My favorite exercise, the one

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<v Speaker 3>I do every day, and I've done it for over

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<v Speaker 3>a decade, is when I go to bed at night,

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<v Speaker 3>I say a prayer and then I.

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<v Speaker 4>Go what went well today?

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<v Speaker 3>And I actually start at the beginning of my day,

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<v Speaker 3>go hour by hour looking for what I liked about

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<v Speaker 3>my day. So talking to you, that'll make the highlight

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<v Speaker 3>real tonight and it's so important. And then before I

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<v Speaker 3>make any decision today, I asked myself this question, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just good for my brain or bad for it? And

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<v Speaker 3>if I can answer that with information and love, love

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<v Speaker 3>of myself, love of my family, love of the reason

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on the earth. Let's make better decisions. I also

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<v Speaker 3>take multiple vitamin I'll take smart mushrooms, not magic mushrooms,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm a huge fan of Lion's maine and turkey

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<v Speaker 3>tail and Rishi and Cortes EPs mushrooms, So I have

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<v Speaker 3>my supplements. Another one I love is Saffron. Saffron has

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four randomized controlled trials showing it's equally effective antidepressants.

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<v Speaker 3>So when the doctor thought you were depressed, I had

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<v Speaker 3>to put you on happy Saffron rather than lexapro. And

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<v Speaker 3>if it didn't work, I'd go to lexapro. Right, So

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<v Speaker 3>I want to make sure the message is clear. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>eat a very low carbohydrate diet because diabetes, pre diabetes,

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<v Speaker 3>obesity is the enemy of brain health, and so what

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<v Speaker 3>you eat is critical. People have a fat based diet. Avocados,

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<v Speaker 3>nuts and seeds, healthy oils, fatty fish have forty two

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<v Speaker 3>percent less risk of getting Alzheimer's disease, according to a

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<v Speaker 3>study from the Mayo Clinic. People have a simple carbohydrate

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<v Speaker 3>based diet, so think of the standard American diet bread, pasta, potatoes,

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<v Speaker 3>rice fruit, juice, sugar four hundred percent increase risk of

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<v Speaker 3>getting Alzheimer's.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not okay with that.

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<v Speaker 3>And so the food I eat, and I always want

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<v Speaker 3>you to ask this question, do I love it? And

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<v Speaker 3>does it love me? Because it's a relationship and I

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<v Speaker 3>only like every day. I figured out recently how to

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<v Speaker 3>make my own lemonade slushy. I just take a whole lemon,

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<v Speaker 3>put it in a blender with sparkling water, ice, and

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of chocolate Stevia. There's a company I

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<v Speaker 3>like called Sweet Leaf. They make like ten different flavors

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<v Speaker 3>of stevia. I blend it and it just like going

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<v Speaker 3>to seven to eleven and getting a slushy, except this

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<v Speaker 3>one's healthy and I love it and it loves me.

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<v Speaker 3>Or I make brain healthy hot chocolate every night for

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<v Speaker 3>my family, unsweetened almond milk, organic almond milk with raw cacao,

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<v Speaker 3>which is just loaded with healthy compounds and increased blood

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<v Speaker 3>float of the brain, little bit of chocolate stevia.

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<v Speaker 4>Put it in a blender. Eighty four calories. I'm happy

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<v Speaker 4>as a clam.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you have that in your book too?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you do you have a I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't have the lemonade one because I just figured it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well you'll send me that one.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have a new book coming out next year

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<v Speaker 3>called Raising Mentally Strong Kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh see, I really really would love to read that

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<v Speaker 2>one too, because I'm just doing the best that I

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<v Speaker 2>can because you know, obviously I know all about my

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<v Speaker 2>childhood traumas from doing all the therapy, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just i have a seven and a four year old,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm trying to you know, what I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>know more like what I can do as a mom

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<v Speaker 2>to just help guide them in better, better directions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, read parenting with love and logic. It is so

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<v Speaker 3>awesome because ultimately, when you grow up with someone who's

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<v Speaker 3>very successful or famous, that already gives you some negative

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<v Speaker 3>thoughts about yourself how could I ever live up? And

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<v Speaker 3>you help them by not doing too much for them

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<v Speaker 3>right when you have a lot, You're like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 3>love them so much.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want them.

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<v Speaker 3>To suffer, and that will cause entitlement and suffering, and

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<v Speaker 3>so it's really important that they have chores that you

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<v Speaker 3>teach them to solve their own problems. Oh mommy on board,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, well, we should do boredom training. I

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<v Speaker 3>wonder what you could do about that that does not

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<v Speaker 3>involve devices.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, So my thing is I'm like, go outside,

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<v Speaker 2>like I am such an advocate, and that's where like

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<v Speaker 2>my ex and I because I'm like, I hate the iPad.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I love that. I hate saying hate, but

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<v Speaker 2>I just I do. I just I don't like to

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<v Speaker 2>go outside.

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<v Speaker 3>Because those companies are after mind share and they're stealing

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<v Speaker 3>a generation of children. Fifty seven percent of girls are

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<v Speaker 3>persistently sad. And the more you're on a social media

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<v Speaker 3>site and on average Jenna, children spend three point five

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<v Speaker 3>hours a day and the third of kids are constantly

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<v Speaker 3>on social media sites, this is we're on the front

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<v Speaker 3>edge of a tidal wave. Yeah, brain and mental health

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<v Speaker 3>problems in children. So parents, they need to be off

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<v Speaker 3>their devices themselves and delay it as long as you can.

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<v Speaker 3>If they're fourteen and they don't have a phone, they're not.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to die.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's how I keep saying, like my daughter

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<v Speaker 2>might dislike me because all her friends, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want her on it because I know what

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<v Speaker 2>it's has done to me with all the negative comments

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<v Speaker 2>and people saying things and the filters and this, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, well kind of like my nose better

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<v Speaker 2>in this filter. And then I'm like, nope, no more filters,

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<v Speaker 2>no more nothing like cause it's like it's it messes

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<v Speaker 2>with you. And then I get depressed and then I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>n noah, no more. Don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely I don't want it from my kids.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you know, given that you know many of

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<v Speaker 3>their friends will have it, they won't like you, But

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<v Speaker 3>I guarantee they won't like you more if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>supervise them. So I've often said that is kids hate

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<v Speaker 3>to be supervised, and they hate it more when they're not.

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<v Speaker 3>But the trick is is you have no influence without connection.

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<v Speaker 3>And so four and seven these are perfect ages. I

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<v Speaker 3>do special time with each of them every day twenty minutes,

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<v Speaker 3>ten twenty minutes and go, hey, this is your time.

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<v Speaker 3>And during that time, no devices, and go this is

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<v Speaker 3>your time, no commands, no questions, no direction. Do something

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<v Speaker 3>with them. It's not TV or video games that they

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<v Speaker 3>want to do. And if you do that every day

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<v Speaker 3>over a couple of years, it's like money in the bank.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want your children to pick your values, time

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<v Speaker 3>and be a good listener. And too often, especially for women,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll probably get hate mail for this. Especially for women,

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<v Speaker 3>they talk too much because they have language on both

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<v Speaker 3>sides of their brain. Guys just have language on the

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<v Speaker 3>left side of their brain. It's be a really good listener.

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<v Speaker 3>This thing I teach in the book called active listening.

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<v Speaker 3>When they say something, don't respond, listen and then repeat

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<v Speaker 3>back what you're hearing and listen for the feelings behind

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<v Speaker 3>what you're hearing. And if you do that, they'll keep talking.

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<v Speaker 3>So many kids, they parents bring them to me and

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<v Speaker 3>they go, oh, he said he won't talk to you.

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<v Speaker 4>I go, I know, it's really hard.

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<v Speaker 3>And once I shut the door and I actually listen,

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<v Speaker 3>they won't shut up.

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<v Speaker 4>That like little chotterboxes.

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<v Speaker 3>And the parents like, how would you do that? It's

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<v Speaker 3>like I didn't say anything, you know, I just listened

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<v Speaker 3>and reflected right.

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<v Speaker 4>Fact.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you spend time with them just that ten

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<v Speaker 3>twenty minutes a day and you're a really good listener,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to bond with you. It's ultimately what humans want.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to be bonded to safe parents. And then

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<v Speaker 3>they tend to pick your values.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you are just I could talk to you all day,

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<v Speaker 2>but I know you were a very busy man, So

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for coming on the show, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate everything that you're doing and thank you for Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I love how even how you switch the whole mental

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<v Speaker 2>health thing. I mean, I get everything you say, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I just I appreciate you coming on, and I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot wait to meet you in person and check out

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<v Speaker 2>my brain and all the trauma that it might still

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<v Speaker 2>have but it's okay because we're going to fix it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you do lots of really good things for it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I look forward to seeing you in person, hopefully soon,

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<v Speaker 3>and thank you for helping me spread the message. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not mental illness, it's brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Health, absolutely, and I really appreciate you saying that. So

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for coming on and I'll see you soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you all right, bye, honey, bye. Everybody get doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel Amon's book, Change your Brain every Day, and I

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<v Speaker 2>love what he said about mental health illness. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>it's about the brain health and getting brain healthy. So

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<v Speaker 2>I am ordering at Decartes.

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<v Speaker 1>See you guys later.