1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: We have the best athletes in the entire world, and 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: we know what we deserve and we won't be playing 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: or doing anything until we get what we deserve. 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people think we're just talking. 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 3: We are. 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Our union right now. 7 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Is as strong as it's ever been and it's super exciting. 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: Guys. 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 4: Welcome to episode ten of the Show Me Something Podcast. 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 4: One of are sadder. I don't even know if that's 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 4: a word. I like more sad episodes. I have a 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 4: little cold and the fever season has come to an 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 4: in both devastating parts of our week. But I think 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 4: we can all say we would farther than we thought 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 4: we would. 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: So I thought, yes, I thought that we would have. 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want. 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: To say this, like, if you're looking at the competition, 19 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: we should have been done. I don't even know if 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: we should have made playoffs with the amount of injuries 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: and everything we did. And then we took a team 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: that's won two times in the past I think three years. 23 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: They have five Olympians on their team. We took them to. 24 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 4: Overtime MVP on their team like yep, which dude, they 25 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 4: could not miss a goddamn shot. 26 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: Were you talking about grat Chelsea Gray. 27 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: She came in clutch for him, but I will say 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: she had two heaves and Dana Evans had a heave 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: that they weren't even looking at the room, just threw 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: it from their hip and it went in like, no, 31 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: it's all good. 32 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: That one when the shot clock was running down was 33 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: ularly yeah. 34 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 4: I mean, we'll get into the game, We'll get into 35 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 4: the season. But also we had to hop on this 36 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 4: pod because our good friend Fisa dropping absolute nukes on 37 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 4: the w NBA League, which I would already say your 38 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 4: Instagram comment, you're already gonna get fined. 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: I assume we're gonna let it rip here. 40 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 4: But basically the WNBA there's a lot of dialogue going 41 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 4: on right now as we head into. 42 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: Finals week, and I think this is gonna be a 43 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: good episode. 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 4: Despite shooting one hundred percent at my celib basketball. 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: Game, it is a Sophie Cunning gam episode. 46 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: So wait, real quick, were you start? Were you one 47 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: for one? Because I know you hit that first layup. 48 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I made the first bug and I didn't and 49 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 4: I didn't show the rest of the game, baby. 50 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: So you get your stat line? Did you get your 51 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: stat line from last week. 52 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 4: No, the it like went way faster than I thought. 53 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 4: They ended up being twelve minute halves and it was 54 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 4: a running clock so it was in me subbed, so 55 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 4: it was like you got to keep it moving. I 56 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 4: think we should just check in. Season is over. 57 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: How do you feel? 58 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 4: I mean, tough way to go out, but like, I 59 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: don't know, how are you feeling today? 60 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 3: How do you feel waking up? 61 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: Honestly, it's so crazy because I think if the whistle 62 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: would have gone just a couple more plays our way, 63 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: we would be in the finals. 64 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: Like I'm not even kidding, And that is something. 65 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: Oh because a Leah fouled out huh. 66 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: Like who I mean? 67 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: That was brutal and two or three of her fouls 68 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: were just bullshit. And my thing is too you got 69 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: to know who's in the game. Awful, awful, awful, and 70 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: like people come to watch watch these players. She's an 71 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: All Star. You don't foul out an All Star in 72 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: the finals. Like that's where it just gets me, Like 73 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: that is you just you don't do that. People aren't 74 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: paying money to come watch you ref a game to 75 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: sit an All Stars ass on the bench. What are 76 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: we doing? 77 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: Like I'm sure someone from Vegas would be like, oh, 78 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 4: like classic excuse that is very much a thing though, dude, Like. 79 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: You're trying to grow products, grow league. 80 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: We're not fouling out all stars on a big state 81 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: like if they if she was, if they were like 82 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 4: text or she was like like hacking people under the 83 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 4: rim whatever, But yeah, those were go either ways, And 84 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 4: like I even think about. 85 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: That, And there was a clip it was like a 86 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: two minute video going around of all the fouls that 87 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: they did not call on their All Stars or their players, 88 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: and it was like you like you knew, you knew 89 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: the agenda, like they made it too obvious, and you know, 90 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: I think the rest, they truly do have a hard job. 91 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, like everyone is 92 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: texting them just trying to get clarity of why is 93 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: this called? 94 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: Why is this not called? 95 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, like they respond, well, 96 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: this meets the criteria. 97 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: Well then the criteria needs to change. 98 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: If our game is growing and it's changing, then our 99 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: criteria can't be from the seventeen hundreds, like let's go, 100 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: let's get with the times a little bit. And I 101 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: think we want the league to be more physical. But 102 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: at this point, how the season has been going like 103 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: the regular season. 104 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: That's really the physicality. 105 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: Play off basketball should be like we're we're out there 106 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: killing each other, everyone's getting injured, Like that's that's not 107 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: fun for the fans to watch. It's not fun to 108 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: play like keep basketball basketball because we are very highly skilled, 109 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: competitive basketball players who are very elite at our craft. 110 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: That's what people want to see. They don't want to 111 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: see us hacking each other. And I know that's coming 112 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: from me, but I do that to make a point 113 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: that like call the first fucking fifteen fouls, like what 114 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:28,119 Speaker 1: are we doing? 115 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 4: My biggest question for you then would be like why 116 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 4: do we think? And I know I know where it 117 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 4: starts and who we will We will address Kathy later, 118 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 4: but like why is the officiating in the WNBA so 119 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 4: much more is inconsistent than other leagues? Is it they 120 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 4: don't go through training that other officials do. Is it 121 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 4: that they're not held accountable? Is it that there's not 122 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 4: like strict like a rule book for the WNA, Like 123 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 4: why do we find it? 124 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: Like? 125 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: What about it? It's clearly not just you. 126 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 4: There are so many people upset with officiating in the WNBA. 127 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: Clearly the fact that someone just had to make a full. 128 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 4: PSA for actual an interview and you don't even have 129 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 4: to know the answer. 130 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 3: I just like, what's the root of it. 131 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: I don't know all the answers, and I am I 132 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: am having these conversations to try to get clarity of 133 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: where we should as a league take this, because I 134 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: think it's from top to bottom when it comes to coaches, 135 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: assistant coaches, players from one to twelve to thirteen on 136 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: the roster, Like we are all saying the same thing. 137 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: We're all saying the same thing. Like it's not just 138 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: two or three people. 139 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: Saying it here, and you know what, to be honest, 140 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: like I hate to compare it, but this is just facts. 141 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 1: I would love to know the criteria that NBA refs 142 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: have to meet compared to what WNBA ress have to be, 143 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: Like you know, like what is the comparison there? And 144 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: like I truly do think that Like there I said 145 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: this today in my exit interview that I think that 146 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: we have a lot of smart business like people in 147 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: the league, which wonderful, you're great at business, but they 148 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: don't know shit about. 149 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 2: Basketball and that is a huge, huge problem. 150 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: And so I think they do as best as they can, 151 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: but I think it's on us players that when we retire, 152 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 1: or if it's people who aren't pros but still played 153 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: at the collegiate level or have some sense of playing 154 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: the game and having a brain, that they need to 155 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: start maybe investing into these possession positions to make you know, 156 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: the next generation even better than what it is for us. 157 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: And so I think it's just continuing to have those 158 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: conversations of how do we improve the officiating. 159 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: Again, their job is hard. Their job is very hard. 160 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: I would never want their job, but I do think 161 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: there needs to be some accountability, some open lines of 162 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: efficient communications because at the in the day they're part 163 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: of our game, Like we want them to feel good 164 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: and be proud that they're officiating in the w And 165 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe if we gave them more money, 166 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: they would feel maybe more invested where they wouldn't have 167 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: to go because I know the the w refs they 168 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: also officiate college. You know, right, they're in the big 169 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: ten SEC. They're oh, well, then that's your first fucking problem. Yeah, 170 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: they're they're working. They shouldn't be double dipping in other leagues. 171 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 4: That's like, I know, because aren't the rules like there's 172 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 4: different ways to call the game, like people are okay, Well, 173 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 4: problem number one also, I'm going to say it, they 174 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 4: have to wear those tight ASTs. I wouldn't want to 175 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 4: wear that tight ass fucking shirt if they have to 176 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 4: wear either like the child's medium. 177 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: Shit. 178 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: You know, I'll work on the their actual calling. You 179 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: work on the fits. That's how we're gonna make this 180 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: league better. 181 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 4: I'll design some w NBA ref shirts and then maybe 182 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 4: we'll then we'll get some more I don't know some 183 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: people out obviously uh Nofista Colliers was it in? It 184 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 4: was an exit interview I guess with with Minnesota media. 185 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 4: Basically just before a question is even asked, called out 186 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 4: your commissioner and said that, Like I mean, she said 187 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 4: a lot of things, but I would say the biggest 188 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 4: sentiment was one, officiating is a huge issue that's not 189 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 4: addressed or. 190 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: Taken seriously by the league. And then two that the 191 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 3: upper I don't want to call it. 192 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 4: I don't want to just single out Kathy, but like 193 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: the important people in the w n B, A don't 194 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 4: give a shit about the players, And in no way, 195 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 4: shape or form has she's shown any empathy or ability 196 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 4: to recognize what this new generation of Hooper's are doing 197 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: for the WNBA, mostly CC but the Angel Page, et cetera. 198 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: So first off, I'm sure you watched. 199 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 4: The speech because you've already talked shit on the internet, 200 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 4: But like, what did you think of that speech? Because 201 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 4: I found it that takes balls, that takes big fucking 202 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 4: balls to do what she did. And I think when 203 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 4: you have players willing to put their neck out on 204 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 4: the line like that to make a statement, clearly something's 205 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: something can be fixed and something can be better when 206 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 4: players are making that big of a risk. So I 207 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 4: guess just thoughts on our speech, and I'm going to 208 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 4: regret saying this, but feel free to talk about Kathy well. 209 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: You know what, I'll actually I think I've kind of 210 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: said my thoughts. 211 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: But I think at the end of the day, everyone's 212 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: fed up, fed up with how the league is treating us, 213 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: and if you hear how our CBA negotiations are going, 214 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: it shows you how disrespectful and like they should feel 215 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: ashamed of themselves for what they're giving back to us, 216 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: because it's nothing, it is nothing. 217 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: They're not listening, and the thing is they're not. 218 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: Even engaging with us, not even engaging like it is. 219 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: It is bad. 220 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: And so when when we're talking about a lockout or 221 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: a strike, I think. 222 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 3: I was just gonna ask is a lot like is 223 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: that thing yes? 224 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: Because I mean I am because to the media and 225 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: I think to the world, it does take a lot 226 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: of balls for what Nefisa did. 227 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: And you see that. 228 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: All of us, all of us are backing her because 229 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: we've been feeling this way and it was just a 230 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: matter of time until someone said something and the fact 231 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: that it was her, one of the star players that 232 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: everyone knows in the WNBA, and like where she's at 233 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: on our players Association board, on the exec board is huge, huge, 234 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: and like everyone is backing her. But it's because we're 235 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: us as players. We are fed up with how the 236 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: league is treating us like it is awful, and like 237 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: I just can't. I'm not allowed to talk about details 238 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: about the CBA quite yet, but. 239 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: When we do, you are going to be shook, shook 240 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: to the core. 241 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 4: Like am I am I allowed to ask you if 242 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: that's in compensation? 243 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: Is that in? I think, I mean, I assume that's 244 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: the thing. 245 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: But the biggest thing is revenue share. 246 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: So like I'm I think all of us are agreement 247 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: that like, our salary should be tied to the business 248 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: that we bring in and it is not at all 249 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: right and like but it's. 250 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: Not even close. 251 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: It is the most disrespectful percentage that you I I 252 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: think any league has ever seen. 253 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 3: Like it is just where do they want the money 254 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 3: to go? 255 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 4: I just know that they well, I mean, well, if 256 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 4: it's not going like is it going back into literally 257 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 4: the league or is it like hiring it's. 258 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: It's not hiring executives because we've had the same people 259 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: on board for fucking twenty seven years. 260 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, like what are we doing? 261 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 2: Like, I just I just think there's so much room 262 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: for improvement. 263 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: And my thing is, like I know nfisus said this, 264 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: and I think other players have since said this, but 265 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: we talk about it all the time. 266 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 2: That like we we want to keep. 267 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: The W in business, like we want the W to 268 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: thrive of course, Like this is the best momentum the 269 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: W has ever had, and it's time to capitalize on it. 270 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: Like why are we not working together to push this 271 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: league further than any league has ever seen for female sports? 272 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: Because we have that potential. 273 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 4: I'm I'm just curious what her why she is so 274 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 4: afraid of Kaitlin or like, why would you not embrace 275 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 4: someone like that and just be so dismissive of she 276 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 4: said she's lucky. What was the quote she told And 277 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 4: if he says she said she's lucky, she wouldn't make 278 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 4: all this money without the platform to give her, which 279 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 4: is first off, just not fucking true. She signed a 280 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 4: didn't you sign a Nike deal before? And a TV 281 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: deal before she left Iowa? Dude, what are we doing? 282 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 4: The most successful leagues in the world we live in 283 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 4: are the fucking NBA, MLB, NFL. Like they embrace their 284 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 4: fucking stars. It's like it's like the kindergarten lesson for 285 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 4: owning a fucking league. It's like these are who people 286 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 4: buy jerseys of and what networks want to fucking play 287 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 4: your shit Like even to like, I mean, she probably 288 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 4: didn't know if he was gonna give that speech, but 289 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 4: like to be so dismissive of arguably your the best 290 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 4: player in the face of your league is like so bonkers. 291 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 4: I don't know where you even are coming from. And 292 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 4: I guess because I looked her up the other night 293 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 4: and I was wondering she's been the commissioner for ever 294 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: and I wonder if maybe in the beginning stages of 295 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 4: the WNBA, when I mean, you guys had stars, but 296 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 4: it wasn't on this level. Like it's it almost like 297 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: an ego thing where she thought that maybe she was 298 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 4: like on the mountain rushmore of current WNBA like important, 299 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 4: important faces, and now that there's so many of you guys, 300 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 4: she like doesn't like it's just just weird. And I 301 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 4: don't know what logic there is to behaving like that, 302 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 4: because there is none. 303 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: Great leaders want to see other people be more successful 304 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: than them. They want to make sure that they're cared for, 305 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: like there can be a very and. 306 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: I get it. 307 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: She's the business side of it, like I get it, 308 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: But you can be respectful and treat your product product 309 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: of why people are paying attention, why people are buying 310 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: certain jerseys, treat your product with respect, like be a 311 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: great leader. 312 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 5: She's not. 313 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: She's not in any sense, And it's just the disrespect 314 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: is just crazy to me. But honestly, I think this 315 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: is just such a pivotal point in the WNBA because 316 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: there's so many eyes on us, there's so many new fans, 317 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: there's millions of millions, I should say new fans and 318 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, she's worried about her 319 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: and all of her statements. It's all like, well, I 320 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: got us here and I should Kathy. No one cares. Literally, 321 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: no one cares, Like how you're sitting right there. That's 322 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: how we feel every time she speaks, every time she 323 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: speaks us as players, That's how we feel. 324 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 4: Am I allowed to read your Instagram comment? 325 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 3: Or do you want that put behind us? 326 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 5: No? 327 00:16:53,800 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: Go read it, lead it? No? Hell no, Well I 328 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 3: don't know. You've been fined so much you'll for sure 329 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: you're find for that way. 330 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: Not. I mean, I'm out of season, so I don't think. 331 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't think they can find me anymore. 332 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: I'm out of season. I'm not getting paid. 333 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 3: I've never said I'm gonna be banned from two leagues. 334 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be banned from two leagues after this podcast? 335 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 3: You did? 336 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 4: You on Instagram? You said people only know Kathy because 337 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 4: of c Kaylen Clark. She's the most delusional leader, balls, ballsy. 338 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 4: But obviously I think all of this dialogue coming from 339 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 4: NFI say is good. I just at this point in time, 340 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 4: I feel like the right thing to do would be 341 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 4: just put your ego down for one second, like like 342 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 4: anyone's gonna be offended when people talk shit on you, duh, 343 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 4: But like you are a leader amongst a bunch of 344 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 4: women and a bunch of women who are growing something 345 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 4: huge in our country. 346 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 3: I think it would be beneficial to like. 347 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 4: Take a second look the mirror and realize, like, could 348 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 4: I be doing things differently and better? But I feel 349 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 4: like she's so reactive and like defensive when people call 350 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 4: her out for shit that like, dude, like I find it. 351 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: I find it all baffling, and we don't stay on 352 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: this forever. 353 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 4: But like I look at us now, like whatever Nefisa did, 354 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 4: there's a chance in two years we look back and 355 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 4: we're like, oh, was this the first domino in kind 356 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 4: of like maybe reshaping the administration in the WNBA. 357 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: I have no idea if. 358 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: It, and I have every right to believe. 359 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: I don't think Nefisa would be saying that, but if 360 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: it's true of what she said, that Caitlin should be 361 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: thinking her go go ahead and just go back for Kablo, 362 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: because you should not be sitting in that seat like 363 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: that is insane. And what I know I said this earlier, 364 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: but like when when when I say that they're not 365 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: listening to us as players, they're not even engaging. 366 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 3: Well, that's a fucking perfect example. 367 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 2: Like I just it's really not that hard. 368 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: Like I know, I know that business can be tough, 369 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: but doing the right thing by people and treating people 370 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: with respect and giving people their flowers and working together, 371 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: it's really not that it's it's managing people. 372 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 2: It's managing people. But like they're just so worried about. 373 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: Them, them, them, like the III that this is why 374 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: she should not be in the seat that she's sitting in. 375 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 4: It almost feels like the w got like so like 376 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 4: popular that like the foundation of it almost like couldn't 377 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 4: keep up with its own product. 378 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying? 379 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 4: Like you almost like they weren't ready, I guess, but you. 380 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: Know what, that's okay, Like and that's okay weird, But 381 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: it's fine to admit when you need help, right, and 382 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: and it's okay to understand when you're not cut out 383 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: for something. Well, then bring people in who are like 384 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: my thing is, you got to keep growing. You always 385 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: need to keep growing. In with that, the league needs 386 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: to keep growing. That doesn't mean that we have the 387 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: same criteria and the same things we did from year 388 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: one of the. 389 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 2: W like with this as a completely. 390 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: No, and that requires admitting. 391 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 4: That requires admitting that you aren't where you need to 392 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 4: be or you aren't capable of keeping up with something 393 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 4: and getting help. But it's again, it seems like everything 394 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 4: is so reactive and like I've built all of. 395 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 3: This, like I don't need any fucking help. 396 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 4: These players did none of this, and you'll like never 397 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 4: ever ever go anywhere. 398 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: Fun right here with you. 399 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: And I think it's funny too, because I think we 400 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: have a lot of we have the best athletes in 401 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: the entire world, and we know what we deserve and 402 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: we won't be playing or doing anything until we get 403 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: what we deserve. 404 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people think we're just talking. 405 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 3: We are. 406 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 2: Our union right now. 407 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: Is as strong as it's ever been and it's super exciting, 408 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: So I'm ready for it. 409 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 4: Also was going to ask Kelsey Mitchell's injury was so 410 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 4: bizarre looking because it wasn't common. 411 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: Can we talk about here real quick? 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And 452 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 1: I want to be her biggest fan because she is just, 453 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, the best human that you could possibly 454 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: ever be around. 455 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: So that's one. 456 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 3: Yes, she too. 457 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 2: How scary was that? 458 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: Like she. 459 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 2: Did you see the statement she came out. 460 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 4: With, she like stopped walking, No, but she like fully 461 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 4: like froze up. And then the ref where I'm gonna 462 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 4: get rid. 463 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 3: An amazing mm hmm. 464 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 4: That ref was very nice. But and then she like, 465 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 4: then I think this treasure came out. It was just 466 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 4: it was it was a very weird secret. 467 00:23:58,960 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 2: So what happened? 468 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: She put out a statement and starts with an h 469 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: I forgot how what it's called. 470 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 2: But first of all, I do want. 471 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: To shout out Isaac because we give the rest a 472 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: lot of shit, but at the end of the day, 473 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: they're they're all good humans to the core, and like 474 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: that was super sweet of him to help her. 475 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: But she just got a full body cramp. 476 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: But it's like imagine having a Charlie horse but times 477 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: one hundred like it. 478 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: It was. It was bad. 479 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: It was she was a little sick, super dehydrated. But 480 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: really the doctor just said, you know, like she played 481 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: her wheels came off like her body was just too 482 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: a point of exhaustion where she couldn't go anymore, and 483 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: like I believe it, man, like she put the team 484 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: on her back all season long, and you know, it 485 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: just came down to that. 486 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 3: But she is. 487 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: She was in a full body cramp. 488 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: They rushed her to the hospital, got some i VS 489 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: in her, did some blood work, and she's gonna be good. 490 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: But she's super sore. She's moving, she's walking slowly. But 491 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: it was It just sucked because I would have been 492 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: number eight. It was number eight of our true roster 493 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: to go out, and so it just it just sucks 494 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: that we just got hit with the injury bug that 495 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: bad and then at the end of the day that's 496 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: how she goes out. It's like, no one's surprised, but 497 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 1: it just sucks that Kels had to go through that. 498 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: But our team rallied and fought for you know, so 499 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: that was kind of cool. But I guess they're used 500 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: to doing that by now. 501 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 3: I googled what it's called rado. My lusses rab dough. 502 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: But it could be like that condition could get really bad, 503 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: but like hers was bad, but it could be like 504 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: really really bad. 505 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: So we're thankful, but it still sucks, right, Yeah. 506 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 4: I guess just a little look back. You guys are 507 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 4: succeed Is that correct? 508 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 3: Yeah? 509 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 4: Succeed? Injury bug, crazy, big stars, hurt. What's like your 510 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 4: I don't know one word to describe the season for you, obviously, Yeah, 511 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 4: for sure. 512 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 6: I think of it. 513 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: I'm just grateful, Like this season has been so fun 514 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: and so amazing in more ways than I can even. 515 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 2: Count. 516 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: One our locker room, like number one is what I'm 517 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: getting at, is our locker room was so close knit 518 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: and so fun and just full of love that like 519 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: I've never been part of a locker room like that ever, 520 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: and it was awesome. But then it was also a 521 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: season from hell too because of the injury bug. 522 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: But through it all, I'm grateful. 523 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: I think the relationships and the memories that this team 524 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: created is going to be one for a lifetime. Like 525 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: people don't even go through the amount of adversity and 526 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: everything that happened to us in a career, let alone 527 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: one season. So it just like this team will always 528 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 1: remember this for the good and the bad. 529 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: And a locker room is never the same next year, 530 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 3: I mean, you want to keep and if we. 531 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,239 Speaker 1: Can get this CBA worked out, like who knows, Like 532 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: no one's under contract, Like, who knows what's going to happen? 533 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 3: Ye are scary though, yeah, yeah. 534 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 2: This could be my last time in an Indiana bab Jersey. 535 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: Ah scary. 536 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 4: I guess if you've had you've had what forty eight 537 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 4: hours to kind of let it sink in. 538 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 3: Do you have a little finals preview? Obviously, I know 539 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 3: you're rooting. 540 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 4: For any of them. 541 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 3: Mercury. 542 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 2: Have you seen that song going around? 543 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: You know? 544 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: And I don't even know if I'm going to watch. 545 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: I'm over it. 546 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 3: I need to. 547 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 2: I need a break from the toxicity of the w 548 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 2: n b A. 549 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: It's been uh drama filled season for multiple reasons. 550 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: Dude, that might be some of the real issue. 551 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: You ever said, I'm drake to get it, you're gonna 552 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: go I started to go from me for my fines, 553 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: I no, no, no, no, no, So I'm kidding. 554 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: I I put it out there because I was just 555 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: totally kidding. But then people actually started donating and I 556 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: was like, oh no, no, no, no, like I'm I'm kidding. 557 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: But so I'm just gonna give it all away to charity, 558 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: even though I would love to buy a yacht, but 559 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: I guess I'll just have to get another endorsement for that. 560 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 3: You're for sure going to get fined for this episode, 561 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 3: for sure. I can already feel it. 562 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 4: But you know that's fun unless you truly can't get 563 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 4: fined in the off season. In that case, salute so 564 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,719 Speaker 4: one time for the Indiana Fever twenty twenty five season. 565 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: All right, I wanna enough about us, because jeez, I'm 566 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: fish strained, But tell us all about your celebrity basketball game. 567 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: And like, who was there? 568 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: Well, my point guard was eight Yeah, of Island. He's 569 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 3: probably five. Yeah, he's like probably a five to seven 570 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: or five eight. 571 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: Maybe those girls on there even more little because he 572 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: looks like a like he looked. 573 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, there were some. There were some itty bitty girls, 574 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: uh that played. 575 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 4: There are also some like hoopers do There's so many 576 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 4: like random people who are just like freak athletes that 577 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 4: you wouldn't just never know. But okay, yeah, so I 578 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 4: started the game. First bucket of the game is this 579 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 4: dude named Jay Sinco. He's like a rapper and a 580 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 4: model from La great guy. A little breakaway and they 581 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 4: had like two dudes kind of like hanging around the paine. 582 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 4: He just gave me a little dish and I came 583 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 4: up underneath. It looked like I was about to get 584 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 4: my shit fucking jammed against the backboard, and I just 585 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 4: snuck it right in and the shot a little hype, 586 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 4: probably because I was like one of the white out there. 587 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: Like the only guy, and I loved it. 588 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, they probably weren't ready for that. And then yeah, 589 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 4: I was like, no need to shoot the ball anywhere. 590 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 4: It's also a double fucking rim for a pick for a. 591 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but all out you're normally double double ram because 592 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: they have to be strong enough for the weather. 593 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 594 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 4: So that was I was like, I probably shouldn't take 595 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 4: any jumpers with this. 596 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 3: Now. 597 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 4: The funniest thing I tried to go set a pick 598 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 4: for Ace and he called me off. He called out, 599 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 4: He called he said an iso. I was on my 600 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 4: way over and he was like he cleared me out. 601 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: Welto my world. 602 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: Okay, Sophie, stay your ass in the corner, get out 603 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: of everyone's way, all. 604 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 4: Right, get the fucking Yeah. But it was fun and 605 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 4: like it was kind of close. We made a we 606 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 4: made a three to like win the game, so it 607 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 4: was really fun. But I would have made you proud, though. 608 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: I think, dude, next time, you do something like that. 609 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, first bucket thing just kept it. 610 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: I want to come in like low key commentate it, 611 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: like into a little v log. 612 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: That would be you have so much fun and something 613 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 3: like that. I wore, I wore KDS. 614 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 4: I did get I got drove on once like kind 615 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 4: of like the top, like the corner of the key, 616 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 4: and I just didn't. I was low enough, didn't shuffle. 617 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 4: I was tired. I've read how tired? 618 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 3: Wait? 619 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: Did anyone? Did anyone forces left? 620 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 4: No? I nedn'ver wrot the ball up because I'm down. 621 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 4: I'm getting bored. I'm mister remember. 622 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: Wait, wait did you have what days it? Did you 623 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: already do kickball? 624 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 3: Sister? 625 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 4: I'm headed there tonight, which I should say though last week? 626 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: Wait is cleared? You gotta tell me? 627 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh I texted you? Okay. 628 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 4: So one, we play games on Thursday nights. Okay, So 629 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 4: like there are people who come to the games from 630 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 4: like a work happy hour. They've had a few beverages. 631 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 4: Same with other teams. 632 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: Whatever. 633 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 4: If we were playing a team that like, I do 634 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 4: not want to be this guy, but I'm gonna you know, 635 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 4: like you're it's a team that like doesn't look athletic, 636 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 4: but like you can tell, it's like they're like nights 637 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 4: season together, and like they got like. 638 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: They have the chemistry in the rhythm. 639 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 4: They've got chemistry and they just like ice feel like 640 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 4: they're gonna be good even though they all look like 641 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 4: like yeah, just like kind of like oompa loompas, you know. 642 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 4: And they were good, and we the score was like 643 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 4: three to one. 644 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 3: The whole game. Here's the biggest problem. 645 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 4: So, so you have to have girls kick every so often, 646 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 4: you have to have so many girls in the field whatever. 647 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 4: My team is full of a lot of like girls 648 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 4: who want the T shirt and to like hang out. 649 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 4: It's not every girl is like like in the dug 650 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 4: out like ready to kick. And so I'm always like, 651 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 4: we need girls, but it would take us fucking forever 652 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,239 Speaker 4: if like we went through our order of girls like 653 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 4: every so often. So I'm kind of just like, yeah, 654 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 4: like let's just keep it rolling, you know. But this team, 655 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 4: like we get to like the fourth fifth inning and 656 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 4: they're like this girl's and kick, this girl's and kick. 657 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 4: They're kicking it get like ye fuck out, which is true. Yes, 658 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 4: And like we were technically technically speaking, not following anymore. 659 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 4: But I was like like, yeah, like let's go. 660 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 3: I'm like a fucking cheater. I just like want to 661 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 3: ship the way. 662 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: You're there for a good time, for a good time. 663 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I want everyone to like be able to 664 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 4: play and like get through the inning like whatever. So 665 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 4: they're like losing it and then starts kind of chirping. 666 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 4: Other teams starts chirping, and then every time, like between innings, 667 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 4: everyone's kind of like talking shit. When we're like crossing 668 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 4: to go to the duguts. I never talked shit because 669 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 4: I'm like co ed and I'm not gonna like like 670 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 4: talk shit with girls and like fat guy, Like it's 671 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 4: just just like not what I'm here to do. But 672 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 4: so then they're like yelling at the ump, the poor 673 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 4: ump by himself just going co ed kickball is like 674 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 4: a side job, and they are like motherfucking this guy, 675 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 4: like you don't paying a fuck attention, Like what the fuck? 676 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 4: Like then he like then there was a question on 677 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 4: the score we. 678 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 3: Ended up time, were you down time? Right? 679 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 4: I kind of felt yeah, we came back and like 680 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 4: I felt kind of weird about it because they were. 681 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 3: Like calling us out for something that we like were 682 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 3: doing but. 683 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, but then I'm like, guys, I talked to everyone 684 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 4: after the game, like, we can't fight and argue and 685 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 4: shit talk and be annoying if we aren't gonna like 686 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 4: all kick you know. 687 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:01,479 Speaker 3: Yeah. 688 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 4: I literally felt like it was the first time in 689 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 4: my life. I felt like I was a coach, and 690 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 4: I had like a speech naturally like I don't know, 691 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 4: we did it, we fully did it, and I go, guys, 692 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 4: we like, can't we can't act like that if we're 693 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 4: gonna like do the whole thing where like we're like, yeah, 694 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 4: letting girls not kick. So then we break it down 695 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 4: and I look in the corner. They're still yelling at 696 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 4: this ref and the ref is is yelling back at them, 697 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 4: like screaming, like like it was like other teams were 698 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 4: like filming the game full and I was like, game's 699 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 4: fully over, and he's like he's like, you're getting like 700 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 4: this upset about a fucking kickbook and they're yelling at him, 701 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 4: and I was like, dude, not good, not great, because 702 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 4: then you have to go play them and. 703 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 2: Flip cup at the bar like that would have happened. 704 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: I feel like like, y'all just go like that's weird. 705 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: That's just weird, like give them the Flip Cup game, 706 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: go to your own bar and half phone with your team, 707 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: Like that's weird to me, Like it's not that serious. 708 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 4: No, I agree, But so then we go to the 709 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 4: bar and it was like everyone's kind of like walk 710 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 4: on eggshells. And then they were actually like very cool. 711 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 4: When we got to the bar. It's best of seven. 712 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,720 Speaker 4: They went up three to zero, and then we rattled 713 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 4: off four and a round and beat them again. So 714 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 4: it ended up yeah, yeah, bury them. We basically stole 715 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 4: like three points the whole night, but kind of crazy. 716 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 4: And then they the league, Folo called me in the morning. 717 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 4: You're like, what what the fuck happened? So I'd like 718 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 4: tell my team was like, dude, the league called me 719 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 4: because you're fucking can. 720 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: You tell me? Don't like Kathy, who's your guys's league commissioner? 721 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 3: Oh great question. 722 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 4: I don't know if I'll ever meet like the super 723 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 4: higher up because the league has like there's leagues all 724 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 4: over the East Coast. There's like Miami, Volo, Boston, Vollo, Baltimore. 725 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 4: Like you can play team sports in all these cities 726 00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 4: like throughout your mates. It's great, But I did yeah, forties, 727 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 4: but basically had to like take a call and they 728 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 4: were like, dude, we heard about the incident, like we 729 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 4: heard binges cleared like run us through it. And I 730 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 4: was like, I was honest told him. I was like, yeah, 731 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 4: sometimes our girls skip their turn kicking, but I'm trying 732 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 4: to I'm trying to keep an efficient plant. 733 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 2: Ye, your fans to come back? 734 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? Do you want the bleachers? 735 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: Bring the girls, give him over there, give them people drinks, 736 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: and let me kick the fucking out of the ball. 737 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 2: Yes, I get it. 738 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 3: Literally. 739 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, these girls are hot 740 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 4: and want a T shirt and I cannot force them 741 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 4: every time to. 742 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: Get next next year, can we have a white T shirt? 743 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 1: And can you make sure it rains every Thursday? Do 744 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: you really want fans? 745 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 3: Yeah? 746 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 4: I actually don't think there. I don't think there is 747 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 4: a white T shirt team because they probably know well. No, 748 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 4: I was wondering, you know, is it is there a 749 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 4: team out there? 750 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 3: Dude? 751 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 2: That's actually insane though, and the fact that people take 752 00:37:58,640 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 2: it that serious. 753 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I do, like I want to win 754 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 4: and I'm upset when we lose, but I'm not going 755 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 4: to like fight like you know, Yeah, I. 756 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: Think I said that comment to probably the most serious 757 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 1: player on the on the roster. 758 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 2: Of any league. 759 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 4: No, I think if you're fighting at kickball, to me, 760 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 4: it's very much like I can tell who like didn't 761 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 4: play sports, you know, because you're like, you're. 762 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: Like, you know, that reminds me of It reminds me 763 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: of like the average Joe's versus Global Gym, and like 764 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 1: they were the No, you guys are the average Joe's, 765 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: like just trying to have a good time, and the 766 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: other ones were just taking it so serious, even though 767 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: that team maybe win Joe's because you said that, they 768 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 1: were kind of but it's. 769 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 3: You know, it's kickball. Can't judge book by its cover. 770 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 3: All the things I wish I didn't. 771 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 2: Go for the for the knees, go for the knees. 772 00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 4: I tried, dude, I try my hardest. Also real quick 773 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 4: called big at thirty seconds. Did you watch the Chiefs 774 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 4: games Sunday or did you play Someday? 775 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 2: I think we played Sunday. We played Sunday. 776 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 3: They fucking they beat them. Yeah. 777 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. The quarterback, Yeah, didn't he like terror the amstring? 778 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 3: No, It's like it's like three weeks but he came 779 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 3: out after. 780 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 4: We were after we were already up, like it's like, 781 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 4: can we talk about it? 782 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,919 Speaker 1: So back on travel that happened like two weekends ago 783 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: when Travis and our best guy was getting into it 784 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: on the on the sideline, Andy Reid. 785 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 4: They've done that a few times and like if you 786 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 4: watch interviews with him, I feel like they're like father son, 787 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 4: uh and they like I At this point, it doesn't 788 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 4: really freak me out, but that one. There was a 789 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 4: time the Super Bowl go when when Travis like really 790 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 4: gave him a bump and Andy joked after and he's 791 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 4: like yeah, like kind of caught me off balance. 792 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 5: Ah. 793 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 4: That one, like I was like, whoa try this bad luck? 794 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 4: This one really was like I ran up on trying. 795 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 4: Was like motherfucking him. But I like to see that means. 796 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 2: Well, they're like yeah you do. 797 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: They do care and they have that relationship and that 798 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: respect that they're able to do that. 799 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 2: But like nowadays, coaches I feel like aren't allowed. 800 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: To do that on any level because people are just 801 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: fucking weak. 802 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 2: They're not mentally tough. 803 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, the art of hard coaching is like a little 804 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 4: more taboo. Uh, well it has than it used to be. 805 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 4: Are we doing are we doing it? Tell me something 806 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 4: for this EP. 807 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's do it all right, guys, let's 808 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 2: start this up here. 809 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 5: Hey Tozy, Hey Wes, he can direct the podcast. I 810 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 5: absolutely love y'all. I think you play all each other 811 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 5: really well. You're both hilarious. A quick question for you. 812 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 5: So you both travel a lot, you live in different 813 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 5: places in your experience, where do you think has had 814 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 5: the worst dating pool? I'm in San Diego and it's 815 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 5: a it's a dog eat dog world out here. It's rough, 816 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 5: So I'm curious where you think you've had the craziest 817 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 5: experience the dating pool and why? Side note this is 818 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 5: also both of your formal invitations and my best friend's 819 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 5: wedding in Texas November twenty second. Come on out, don't worry. 820 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 5: It's been approved by her, so she's allowed this invitation. Well, 821 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 5: if open bar, dance floor will be chickens for Sylvie 822 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 5: to chase here in the back the day before the 823 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 5: wedding wedding rehearsal well, I think that's what it's called. 824 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 5: But it'll be a mets and restaurant with karaokee so too. 825 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 5: That for what it's worth. I mean a lot of fun, 826 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,280 Speaker 5: lots of booze. You're both invited, so bring your boots, 827 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 5: come on. 828 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 4: Out, Damni. On the dating pool, I had a little 829 00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 4: hot take. If you were in a city and you 830 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 4: think the dating pool's bad, it might be time to 831 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 4: look in the mirror, perhaps. 832 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 3: Because if you're like what the pool is gonna be? 833 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 4: This is not about Caitlin, by the way, this is 834 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 4: just like people always want to be like, oh, like 835 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 4: New York sucks to date, or like La sucks. I'm 836 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 4: moving out of Kansas City because it it's hard to day. 837 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 4: It's about like it's just about trial and air. Like 838 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 4: if you're in a smaller place, there are less options, 839 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,760 Speaker 4: so it's gonna be tougher. But like, I don't think 840 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 4: geographic uh, like locations change how you date people. Like 841 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 4: the point of being a good dater is that you 842 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 4: can kind of ebb and flow and chameleon where you are. 843 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 3: You know. That's kind of my take. 844 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,879 Speaker 4: I think that if you're moving somewhere, it's it's kind 845 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 4: of on you find who matches your swag. 846 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, Are you going to the wedding West. 847 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 3: And then yeah, we'll both go, said. 848 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 2: Chicken singing karaoke at a Mexican bar and drinking beer. 849 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 3: That does actually come of sound nice. 850 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: I think I am honestly like not a big dater, 851 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: like I'm not, I'm not one just like go on 852 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: dates with random people. 853 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 3: But it doesn't have to be like first dates. 854 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 4: It could be like dudes that you've like been dating 855 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 4: or seen and how do they turn out? 856 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 2: I think dating is like your exclusive. 857 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 4: Do doing. I think now dating means like just like 858 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 4: being a talking chat do SCX explode, like going on 859 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 4: dates because some people can go on dates, thing can 860 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 4: be inside see. 861 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 2: I feel like dating is when your I feel. 862 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:09,760 Speaker 6: Like like my experience with dating is like I'm talking 863 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 6: to you and we're hanging out, and it's like like 864 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 6: I'm not I have I'm not good at doing that 865 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 6: with multiple people, Like I just can't do. 866 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 2: I'm just not good at that. I've never been good 867 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 2: at that. What Oh yeah, this is this is what 868 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 2: makes us so good because I feel like we're too. 869 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: Different, like two different people when it comes to that, 870 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,439 Speaker 1: because I just can't. 871 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 2: I don't know that. 872 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that I haven't like had like my 873 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: butt and like flirted and whatever, but like I'm just 874 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to when I hear dating that means 875 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: like I'm like exclusive with someone. 876 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 4: M M. I'm starting to think if I've ever met 877 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 4: like to me, the question makes me think, like, have 878 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 4: you ever been in a location and just like hated 879 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 4: everyone of the opposite sex? 880 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 1: Well, I'm never saying know, like I think being out 881 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: in Scottsdale, if I wasn't like around yeah, like if 882 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't around like the like the NBA guys or 883 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: other athletes out there, Like there's no way I would 884 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: ever date anyone from out there because I'm more masculine 885 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 1: than them, like they have more botox and fillers and 886 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: like looks so pretty dude, Like just Scottsdale people, like 887 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: Arizona people, they're not. 888 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 2: Like, yes, I need like a I need like a man, 889 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:40,879 Speaker 2: like I need a man. 890 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. 891 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 2: So I think I think, I think say what oh, 892 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 2: I said, I got it. 893 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: I think geographically that makes sense though, like there's just 894 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: some states or like some areas that the men are 895 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: going to be a little more of feminine and. 896 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 4: Like I can tell you where it's good Kaylin, New York. 897 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 4: A lot of options, a lot of everything. It's like 898 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 4: literally a jungle like I go out on my blog 899 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 4: right now and there's gonna be ninety hot chicks at 900 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 4: like eating dinner outside, and they all have different types 901 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 4: of jobs, and they're all from different states. 902 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 3: Or countries and it's just beautiful. 903 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 4: And then you say what do you what are you 904 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,439 Speaker 4: doing later and they're like, I'm not driving home. 905 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 3: Boom. Next thing you knows four am Kaylin. We'll see that. 906 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 3: We'll see the wedding good 907 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 2: Way to in the podcast