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Speaker 1: M The Around the League Podcast sees Ghosts in the Pocket.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Round League Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Handus and I'm joined by room

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Speaker 1: filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler and Greg Rosenthal. What up, boys?

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Speaker 1: What up? Dan? Hi? I tried to do the Wesleyan opener.

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Speaker 1: That didn't work too well. No, that's hey. I am

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Speaker 1: how's it going, Dan going? I am? Uh? Mark, you're

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Speaker 1: wearing a new shirt. Uh, it is not new. What

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Speaker 1: it is. It is a flannel shirt that I think

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Speaker 1: I bought about seven months ago that has been pressed

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Speaker 1: between other shirts in my shirt closet. You'll notice even

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Speaker 1: earlier this week you were wearing a new a new

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Speaker 1: pair of jeans and I noticed that immediately as well.

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Speaker 1: Dan didn't notice that, which I found you for noticing.

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Speaker 1: But I also found that odd a sign that it's

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Speaker 1: the off season and assign you guys have worked together

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Speaker 1: too long. Yeah, it's true. I know Mark's entire wardrobe

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Speaker 1: by hard. Basically, Um, we have a big show today.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited about today's show. West isn't here, and

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Speaker 1: that's a bummer because you always want that mad scientist

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Speaker 1: he's not here. We're gonna try to get through it

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Speaker 1: with them a little later in the show. Um, we

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Speaker 1: are going to have a special guest in the studio,

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, NFL draft analyst. I'm very excited about that.

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Speaker 1: That will be his A t L podcast debut. We're

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Speaker 1: also going to go through, uh, you know, our Roster

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Speaker 1: Reset series that we have on the NFL dot com

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Speaker 1: backslash A t L Winners and Losers of Free Agency

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Speaker 1: Get Excited Society also Roster Reset NFC North Greg you

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Speaker 1: during a very quiet time of the year. Right and um,

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Speaker 1: just circling back to winners and Losers will get Kevin

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Speaker 1: behind the glass. What's up, buddy? Not too much, sir,

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Speaker 1: You have no Today was actually cricket, but I didn't

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Speaker 1: Two interesting bits of news out of San Francisco. First off,

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Speaker 1: NFL media insider Ian Rappaport arded Thursday night on NFL

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Speaker 1: player Captain Munderland should help their secondary. Derek Cox was

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Speaker 1: a guy they just kind of took a flyer on.

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Speaker 1: They bring back Matt Castle. They this group I think

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Speaker 1: has a long way to go, and they made some

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Speaker 1: cosmetic moves this offseason and they and they almost feel

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Speaker 1: forced into having to draft a quarterback at number Where

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Speaker 1: are the number eight? Right? Are they? Are they the

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Speaker 1: soundest bet of any team to take a quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the first round? Well, I think in number eight, you're

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Speaker 1: not four, You're not number three. And so at that point,

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Speaker 1: some of these guys, if they tumbled at that point, yes,

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Speaker 1: I'd say they are. Bucky Brooks is going to be

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Speaker 1: coming in in just a few minutes and so we

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Speaker 1: can ask him that. And yeah, they also lost They

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Speaker 1: lost Jared Allen, who played a lot of snaps for them.

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Speaker 1: Toby Gerhardt was a decent backup Chris Cook. This is

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Speaker 1: a strange team because the quarterback position is so weak.

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Speaker 1: In the defense, the defensive line is solid and Mike

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Speaker 1: Zimmer is a fun hire to think about. But after

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Speaker 1: that it's it's just not an exciting defense to look at.

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Speaker 1: And then finally the Lions, Uh, really disappointing team the

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Speaker 1: last two seasons. Now, um, Greg, you have them forth

449
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Speaker 1: so you don't see them bouncing back this year. Well,

450
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Speaker 1: their off season was not an improvement because I think

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Speaker 1: they changed staffs and I'm not convinced that changing the

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Speaker 1: staff is a good thing. They have two very inexperienced

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Speaker 1: coordinators on both sides of the ball, so why why

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Speaker 1: is that a good thing? New new schemes there. They

455
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Speaker 1: bring back Brandon Pettigrew, they signed Golden Tape, but they

456
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Speaker 1: lost a lot of guys. They lost Louis delmis Sean

457
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Speaker 1: Hill has been a good backup for them, Willie Young.

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Speaker 1: To me, it was kind of a blah off season

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Speaker 1: so far. I'm not that convinced, like Westling is that

460
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Speaker 1: Tate is so exciting and I think they're gonna take

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Speaker 1: a step back with this new coaching. I will say

462
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Speaker 1: one thing though, because they've struggled for and I don't agree.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that the number four here, but

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Speaker 1: Golden Tate is plugging a hole that they have not

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Speaker 1: been able to patch up for years. They keep trying

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Speaker 1: to draft or find a number two. Burlison's older than

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Speaker 1: some trees on the planet. I mean, well, that's not

468
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Speaker 1: even surprising that state We just we just planted a

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Speaker 1: tree in the back yend. That's one tree that he's

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Speaker 1: older than, right actual And it's great again that Bucky

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Speaker 1: Brooks is coming because I have to ask about the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver position. You have Calvin Johnson, you you have

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Speaker 1: Golden Tape, and now we're hearing some rumors that they

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Speaker 1: might be looking to get Frisky in the draft to

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Speaker 1: get another impact receiver. So you know, this is a

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Speaker 1: team that the offense they they're going to score points,

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Speaker 1: but it seems like that the offense goes into funks

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Speaker 1: and the defense hasn't been able to pick up the slack.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if we see enough here to

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Speaker 1: think that that's going to change, at least through what

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Speaker 1: have done. So I think this is the second best

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Speaker 1: roster in the division. So if the coaching is good

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Speaker 1: and the talent plays to its level, I think they're

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Speaker 1: the second best team in this division. I had him

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Speaker 1: fourth in terms of most improved. But like I said

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Speaker 1: at the top, I don't think this is a division

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Speaker 1: where a lot changed in the off season. I don't

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Speaker 1: think any of these teams made big, major moves. The

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Speaker 1: Lions are interesting because they have so much cap room

490
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Speaker 1: locked into three players, Sue Stafford and uh Calvin Johnson,

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Speaker 1: that they can't really go out and make these high

492
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Speaker 1: octane moves in the off season. They have to do

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Speaker 1: it in the draft, where the contracts are more reasonable.

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Speaker 1: So that's where they're gonna have to get some big

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Speaker 1: time players. They have so much money tied into those

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Speaker 1: three guys. Alright, stepping into the studio, right now, we

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Speaker 1: promised that we have a high octane draft analyst, and

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Speaker 1: here he comes. He's sitting down, he's running a Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Reds hat of some all right, thank you, Bucky man

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Speaker 1: after my own heart, Bucky Brooks, thanks for having all gods.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. Alright. So we we admittedly don't fashion ourselves

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Speaker 1: as draft experts, so it's really not like the millions

503
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Speaker 1: and millions of drafts. Keep it real, uh As Dave

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Speaker 1: damn Check says, no drive in here. We want we

505
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Speaker 1: want to bring in someone that could help us. So

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Speaker 1: we bring in Bucky Brooks, who dedicates his career to

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Speaker 1: just watching what's going on in college and heading towards

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Speaker 1: the NFL. So we have a lot of questions and

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Speaker 1: who wants to start, Bucky, We're just gonna be throwing

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Speaker 1: things off to throw them out. Let's start with your

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Speaker 1: two round mock draft. What are you saying just because,

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Speaker 1: like I think the funny thing like, uh, mock drafts,

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Speaker 1: there's a difference between mock drafts and big boards. So

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Speaker 1: mock drafts my take of putting on every general manager's

515
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Speaker 1: hat and trying to figure out, this is how they play,

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Speaker 1: this is where their knees are, who's the talent available.

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Speaker 1: A big board is here's what I think are the

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Speaker 1: best players from top one to fifty, and so it

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Speaker 1: it's different. You know, it's kind of their differences between

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Speaker 1: looking at the two. When people ask me about what

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Speaker 1: do I think on a player based on mock draft,

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Speaker 1: I said, and then look, I'm looking at it from

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Speaker 1: the odds of the Jacksonville Jaguars, not from my vantage points. Differentists,

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Speaker 1: two completely different beasts. Well, I know, initially you didn't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of quarterbacks, uh in your mock draft,

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Speaker 1: and now there's there's seems to be a lot of

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Speaker 1: movement where you now see more quarterbacks going in the

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Speaker 1: first round. How many did you have in the first

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Speaker 1: round or five in the first had five and five

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Speaker 1: in the total two round? Mark, so three in the

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Speaker 1: first round and then I had to in the second round.

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Speaker 1: And so what what has changed your mind in terms

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Speaker 1: of where you're putting the quarterbacks? You know when you

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Speaker 1: when you think about it, I think they're like five

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Speaker 1: quarterback needie teams and everyone talks about So you have Houston,

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Speaker 1: you have Jacksonville, Cleveland, you have Oakland, and then the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. And so the challenge in this year's draft

538
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Speaker 1: will be will people reach out like they did in

539
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Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven and take a quarterback because they say, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's a quarterback driven league, we must have a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take a guy who's not really valued

542
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Speaker 1: at that point, but take him in the top of

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Speaker 1: the draft because we need a quarterback. And so we're

544
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Speaker 1: gonna take the best guys available right now. Or are

545
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Speaker 1: there going to be willing to really look at the

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Speaker 1: entire draft and look at where the blue chip talents

547
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Speaker 1: are and say, I can get a blue chip talent

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Speaker 1: here in the first round and I'll come back and

549
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Speaker 1: find my quarterback in the second round. And I think

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Speaker 1: the reason the momentum more people are more willing to

551
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Speaker 1: do that now is because Russell Wilson won the Super Bowl,

552
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Speaker 1: because Andy Dalton has led his team to three straight

553
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Speaker 1: playoff appearances because of the success, and Colin Kaepernick too

554
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Speaker 1: went to championship games. Because those guys have had success

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Speaker 1: with guys that were outside of the first round, That's

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Speaker 1: why more teams are willing to do it. But really,

557
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Speaker 1: when you look at the league, the league is a

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Speaker 1: first round league. The bend of the quarterbacks that play

559
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Speaker 1: will in the league for first round quarterbacks. So as

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Speaker 1: easy and as novel as it is to say I'm

561
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Speaker 1: gonna find a Tom Brady, I'm gonna finally Klin Kaepernick

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Speaker 1: or Russell Wilson and Nick Foles, the odds are if

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Speaker 1: you don't take your quarterback in the first round, he's

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Speaker 1: not going to be a blue chip player. One thing

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Speaker 1: that stuck out to me in the latest marketed at

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Speaker 1: number thirty three, a J. Mccaren to the Texans, were

567
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Speaker 1: there a couple of different things, a couple of different

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Speaker 1: reasons why if we connect the dots um from a

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Speaker 1: talent perspective A J. Mccarren. I think it's good enough

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Speaker 1: to be a quality start in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: He played in Alabama where he had a lot of

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Speaker 1: blue chip talent around, and I think sometimes people kind

573
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Speaker 1: of say, oh, because he has so much talent, all

574
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Speaker 1: he had to do is just kind of roll the

575
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Speaker 1: ball out there. But I think there's an art to

576
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Speaker 1: being able to distribute the ball and get it to

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Speaker 1: the playmakers and keep everyone happy. He's also a really

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Speaker 1: good game manager, and that's a bad word when it

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Speaker 1: comes to draft terms, but when you really look at

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Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks at the position, the breezes demand names,

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Speaker 1: the patents. They all managed the game. Yeah, they managed

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Speaker 1: the game. They understand what is And Pete Carroll said

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Speaker 1: something at the end of the Super Bowl that I

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Speaker 1: thought was really outstanding and it led a lot of insight.

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Speaker 1: He said, I wanted a point guard at a position.

586
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: I wanted a guy that could kind of feel how

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Speaker 1: the momentum of the game was and based on that,

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Speaker 1: sometimes I need to pass more. Sometimes I just need

589
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Speaker 1: to stay with it, stay in my lane, just run

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Speaker 1: the football and do those things. But their ego wasn't

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Speaker 1: tied into accumulating a lot of staff. I think Adan

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Speaker 1: mccarrion is that. And then when you go to the

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Speaker 1: connecting the dots of Bill Belichick and Nick Saban have

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Speaker 1: a relationship. Bill O'Brien worked on the Bill Belichick, so

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they all see the game in the same way.

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Speaker 1: Don't turn it over, put us in favorable positions, and

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Speaker 1: do those things. And when you look at the Texans roster,

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Speaker 1: they're pretty talented. They just need someone who's not going

599
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Speaker 1: to screw it up. If Matt Shaw didn't screw it up,

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Speaker 1: they don't go to in four teens. And they don't

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Speaker 1: care that he is on the on the doorstep of

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Speaker 1: a reality television. I don't think so you know, I

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Speaker 1: think you know times of change. I think like with

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Speaker 1: with all of the stuff in the background and what

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Speaker 1: you're involved in, a lot of it is his wife,

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Speaker 1: where his fiance is driving that reality show. I think

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Speaker 1: the big thing with a J is let's look back

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Speaker 1: at his track work and this guy's played a lot

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Speaker 1: of games. You're playing a lot of big games. He

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Speaker 1: won over his games at Alabama. There's something to be

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Speaker 1: said from learning how to will your team to the

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Speaker 1: Winter Circle. For the record, I watched the Eric Deckert

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Speaker 1: reality showing e nice catch featuring wife. I am the

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Speaker 1: only man that watches it, definitely, and I don't worry

615
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Speaker 1: about his performance with the Jets. What do you look

616
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Speaker 1: at mccarroen. Initially, there's supposed to be a big gap

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Speaker 1: between the top three quarterbacks in this draft Boardles Manzellen,

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Speaker 1: Bridgewater and the next group, the next group of guys,

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Speaker 1: and it's a big group. Mettenberger, you could throw in there,

620
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Speaker 1: Tom Savage, maybe get talked about a J mccarroen, Derek

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Speaker 1: Carr And do you think there is a big gap

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Speaker 1: in terms of how the NFL views between those three

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Speaker 1: and then the rest of the big group? Reading the

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Speaker 1: tea leaves, I would say that the probably the consists

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Speaker 1: in the league because they're not that big of a

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Speaker 1: gap between the top three and the second tier of guys. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think it really comes down to understanding what is

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Speaker 1: it that we want at the position and how do

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Speaker 1: we play how do we envision ourselves playing on offense.

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Speaker 1: I have a, you know, a belief that with Johnny Manzel,

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Speaker 1: the Johnny Manziel will go to a team that is

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Speaker 1: headed by defensive minded head coach, a guy who has

633
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Speaker 1: cut his teeth on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: because defensive coordinators understand the challenges of facing an athletic

635
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Speaker 1: runaround guy. Yeah, there's some there's some buzz and some

636
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Speaker 1: conversations about that, But when you look look at the

637
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Speaker 1: history of the league, the majority of the guys that

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Speaker 1: have had these athletic runaround guys have been defensive guys.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher with v y Um, some of the other

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Speaker 1: guys like even though Jim Harbaugh is an offensive guy,

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Speaker 1: really he plays like a defensive minded guy. They run

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Speaker 1: the ball, they do different things. So just think about

643
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Speaker 1: that athletic playmaker and Johnny man Zeil being that fit um.

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Speaker 1: Moving away from quarterbacks, I had a question for you. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: running back the value at least in the draft is

646
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Speaker 1: moved away from the first round. We're hearing that's gonna

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Speaker 1: happen again. Who, in your mind, is the best chance

648
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Speaker 1: to become like the Eddie Lacy type player this year

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Speaker 1: who instantly goes into an NFL roster and performs. You know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of it is always fit in scheme and

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Speaker 1: how that player fits. But when you think about Eddie

652
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Speaker 1: Lacey is funny how he goes in the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the second round and he becomes like kind of the

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Speaker 1: bell called the guy. I think Jeremy Hill from l

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Speaker 1: s U is a guy that's capable of doing those things.

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Speaker 1: Big physical running back. You think about the Tennessee Titans

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Speaker 1: in the second round of team that needs a kind

658
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Speaker 1: of a hammer. He kind of fits the bill Um.

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Speaker 1: You know. I like carlos Her, but I think it

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Speaker 1: just depends on where he goes in terms of the

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Speaker 1: level of success. I think another running back, I have

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Speaker 1: Trey Mason tied to the Jacksonville Jaguars, but watch Tray Mason.

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Speaker 1: When I looked at him, the first thing that I

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Speaker 1: thought of was marrying Barbara the third from Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: How Marian was kind of like a a smaller but

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Speaker 1: a physical, rugged running back that has a nat for

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Speaker 1: kind of find increases. I think Trey Mason has some

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Speaker 1: of that ability. But I will say this, and I

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Speaker 1: think the running back that everyone is kind of lost

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Speaker 1: sight of is Cadeem Carey from Arizona. Because he ran

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Speaker 1: a pedestrian time. He ran four seven oh at the combine.

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Speaker 1: People kind of dismissed him but anytime you run for

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Speaker 1: thirty eight hundred yards in the last two years, twenty

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Speaker 1: to one hundred yard games, and the counterproduction that he's

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Speaker 1: done in our major conference, I think is noteworthy. I

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Speaker 1: think you need to pay attention to it. With this

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Speaker 1: uh you know, and again we are not draft knicks

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Speaker 1: per se. And I would venture that the three of

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Speaker 1: us a month ago, I never heard of Tom Savage,

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Speaker 1: so flat out we're here, just give us the inside.

681
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Speaker 1: I was fully aware of his background, not at all.

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Speaker 1: You don't even know where he's got. Is this a prank?

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Speaker 1: Is this a real person? It's not. I mean he's

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Speaker 1: he's a real person. You know, this time of year

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Speaker 1: is always scary because here's what happened. We moved the

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Speaker 1: draft back. So the more time you have between the

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Speaker 1: end of the regular season and the draft, the more

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Speaker 1: likely you have what we call these ghosts to kind

689
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Speaker 1: of pop up and kind of make their way of

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Speaker 1: the charts. For Tom Savage. Tom Savage was a five

691
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Speaker 1: star recruit coming out of high school. Highly decorated. He

692
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Speaker 1: was one of the top guys in the class. If

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Speaker 1: he ja Taj Boyd and some of the other guys

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Speaker 1: and this group goes to Rutgers. It was a big

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Speaker 1: coo at a time for greg Ciano to get him stars.

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Speaker 1: As a freshman, he was okay, I want to say completely,

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Speaker 1: maybe fifty percent of his passes. But he ended up

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Speaker 1: losing his job to a lesser known guy, and so

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Speaker 1: he leaves, goes to Arizona. Arizona obviously ends up getting

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Speaker 1: rich Rod. It's not a fit. So then he leaves again,

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Speaker 1: so he's a double transfer. Ends up it Pit. I

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Speaker 1: will say this, he got better over the course of

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Speaker 1: the season, did a good job. He has a big,

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Speaker 1: strong arm. Uh. He's your classic drop back quarterback. Like um,

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Speaker 1: he's an eighties quarterback if you look, stand back there

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Speaker 1: seven yards from the center and throw darts. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he's necessarily ready to be a starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League, but he definitely has some

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Speaker 1: qualities that most traditional offensive coordinators look for. And when

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Speaker 1: you think of Paul, Chris did a great job at

711
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Speaker 1: Pit scaling it down, simplifying the game, doing little things

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Speaker 1: that allowed him to flourish. A good offensive coordinator, yes,

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Speaker 1: can work with him and build around them, but is

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Speaker 1: he in the class of the men's els and and

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Speaker 1: those guys, you're not buying the hype because he's not

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Speaker 1: even on your two round. He's getting invited to New

717
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Speaker 1: York though. That's something that's a Gil Brandt movie. You

718
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Speaker 1: almost knows him. Gil Gil has been telling him. Now,

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Speaker 1: Gil went a little off the rails when he liken

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Speaker 1: them to Troy Aikman and those things like that's that's

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Speaker 1: lofty praise when you throw in a Troy Aikman reference.

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Speaker 1: And also like it's important to note like it's not

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Speaker 1: about where he gout comes into the league. That's only

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Speaker 1: pole position, but how is he going to play? A

725
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Speaker 1: lot of times when you talk to Jane myself, when

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Speaker 1: we're looking at these guys, it's not about oh I

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna be picked. Here is we're giving a

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Speaker 1: grade based on how we think his career will project,

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Speaker 1: what he will do. Mark had an interesting theory on

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Speaker 1: Tom Savage downstairs. I think it was very intriguing. Oh

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Speaker 1: I just asked if he was if this was a

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Speaker 1: better version more you know, uh, patiently subtle constructed version

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Speaker 1: of Leon Sandcastle. Maybe you know what I would like

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Speaker 1: to do. What I would like to know is who

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Speaker 1: is his agent? Because he's done a greatstanding of capitalizing

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Speaker 1: on a media buzz because there wasn't this buzz on him,

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Speaker 1: not even in the bowl season. We didn't talk about

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Speaker 1: Tom Savage being a legitimate guy, and he didn't play

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Speaker 1: in his bowl game. He was hurt. But the fact

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Speaker 1: that we're now talking about him. I saw people that

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Speaker 1: other networks have put him in the top of the

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Speaker 1: second round with the Houston Texans as just thinking a

743
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Speaker 1: fascinating climb up the charts. No, no Derek Carr for you,

744
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: by the way, in your two round. Like the thing

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Speaker 1: about it is, I mean, we could play manipulating throw

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Speaker 1: a bunch of quarterbacks in there, but when you really

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Speaker 1: look at the teams that need quarterbacks, there are five

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Speaker 1: teams that we know. Now the other teams can take

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. But you have to weigh do I want

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Speaker 1: to take a position player that can really help me,

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Speaker 1: or do I want to take a developmental quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the second round because there's so many wide receivers in

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00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: this draft, like this draft at wide receiver is as

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Speaker 1: loaded as we've seen. To bypass an opportunity to get

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Speaker 1: maybe a Dante mont Creef and Allan Robinson or somebody

756
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Speaker 1: on a developmental quarterback like maybe a Jimmy Garoppolo. I

757
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: think you really have to have a need of the

758
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Speaker 1: position to make that move in the second round, eard round.

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Speaker 1: I think they all come off the board in the

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Speaker 1: third round, just because of the nature of it. Rap

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Speaker 1: sheet throughout on Thursday Nights Total Access a couple rumors, uh.

762
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Speaker 1: One of them was that the Buccaneers and the Cardinals

763
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Speaker 1: are two teams to watch for in terms of taking

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that maybe in the first second round, especially Tampa

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Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. Do you do you think

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Speaker 1: they could end up adding to that number of five

767
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks going early? You know they could. I think when

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Speaker 1: you go back and you look at Jeff Tafford had

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Speaker 1: a lot of success developing quarterbacks at Kale, also at Fresno,

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Speaker 1: and also at Oregon, Um, maybe there's a young guy

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Speaker 1: that kind of fits his mold. Um. I've liken Titty

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Speaker 1: Bridgewater to what I saw from Aaron Rodgers when he

773
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Speaker 1: came out of Kale. And remember Aaron Rodgers spent three

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Speaker 1: years on the bench before he got his opportunity. So

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Speaker 1: when I say Aaron Rodgers, like, oh my god, how

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Speaker 1: can you say? But remember there were questions on whether

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was going to be a player in this

778
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Speaker 1: league before he actually became the Aaron Rodgers that we

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Speaker 1: know I love. So maybe when you think about a

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Speaker 1: quarterback that is not expected to fall a Derek carr Um,

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Speaker 1: a Teddy Bridgewater at the top of the second round

782
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Speaker 1: of one of those guys maybe falls into their lap.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely they pulled the trigger for the Arizona Cardinals is

784
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Speaker 1: wise to finally trying to find someone who can be

785
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Speaker 1: the replacement to Carson Palm. They've denied it too strongly.

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Speaker 1: I think too that keeps no, no, no way about

787
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Speaker 1: Carson Palmer til he but you look at Bruce Arians

788
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Speaker 1: and what he's done. A vertical playmaker, a guy that

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Speaker 1: can throw the ball down the field. Zach Mettenburger could

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Speaker 1: be in the mix. Anybody that can play from the

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Speaker 1: pod and think of a strong arm pass and think

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Speaker 1: of someone who has played. He's had success with Ben Roethlisberger,

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Speaker 1: he won with Tim Couch. He has obviously um Andrew

794
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Speaker 1: luck during his time, and so he's had a wide

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Speaker 1: range of pastors. So he's very definitely able to do it.

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Speaker 1: The reason I think in the mock draft I put

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Speaker 1: Zach Mettenberger to Minnesota. Is understand that Cam Cameron is

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Speaker 1: a North Turner protegect. So if anyone knows all the

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Speaker 1: information on what Zach Mettenberger strimps and weaknesses will be,

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Speaker 1: it'll be North Turner because Cam camer and we're shared

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Speaker 1: in information. So I heard you guys talk about Minnesota

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Speaker 1: at eight. I think their sweet spot is probably forty

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Speaker 1: for where they take a quarterback or somewhere. Maybe they

804
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Speaker 1: move up to find that guy. But I think za

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Speaker 1: Merdenburger is the one to watch for him when you

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Speaker 1: get that connecting the dots. Bucky Brooks, NFL media draft analysts.

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Speaker 1: You could check out his two thousand twelve NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: do over, which we all enjoy that those must be

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Speaker 1: kind of fun to write, right, they're fun to watch now,

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Speaker 1: like the key to are doovers, go and look at

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Speaker 1: the draft and find all the Pro Bowl players. Find

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Speaker 1: all the Pro Bowl players. First, let's find out who

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Speaker 1: the good guys are, and then let's go let's work

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Speaker 1: down from there. But I think it's funny how guys

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Speaker 1: are really upset about to do over, like you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: no way they would take Russell Wilson over r G

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Speaker 1: three with the second thing? Why not? Like who knows?

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Speaker 1: I just I throw a lot of respect your away

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Speaker 1: for sticking your neck out and saying the Browns wouldn't

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Speaker 1: sit on Trent Richardson at three. You know how about

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Speaker 1: that though? Like just how like it? It's funny um

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Speaker 1: going back and doing the do overs. Just the sizemic

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Speaker 1: shift in the value of the running back position. Uh

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Speaker 1: we did whatever draft was a two thousand and five

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Speaker 1: when uh Cedric Benson, Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown, three running

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Speaker 1: backs taken in the top five? Can you imagine three

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Speaker 1: running backs that might be you know it didn't but

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Speaker 1: but but think just think about that. And then was

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and eight we had all Rush Artmanten

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Speaker 1: Hall and c J two K and and all those

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Speaker 1: guys come off the board and don't see those guys.

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Speaker 1: I need Tom Savage's agent, Uh, Bucky Brooks, Yes, check

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Speaker 1: that out the draft Doovers. Check out his latest mock

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Speaker 1: draft and uh follow along. You have your own podcast.

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Speaker 1: You want to get a plug in right now CFV

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Speaker 1: seven College Football Podcast seven doing all the Draft break now,

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Speaker 1: Dan J Mra, Matt money Smith, and breaking it down.

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Speaker 1: Matt money Smith, who does our intros for our podcast.

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Speaker 1: We lean on him and pay nothing. He's actually a

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Speaker 1: namely talented host, but I do think his best skills

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Speaker 1: are showing our podcast. He's like let he brings guys in,

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Speaker 1: We highly recommend it. Bucky Brooks, thank you for stopping

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Speaker 1: by the Around the League Podcast. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: having me go Yankees. Alright, great information there from Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: I feel enlightened. I'm going to use the enlightened word there.

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Speaker 1: I thought, well, you know the thing what I like

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Speaker 1: about this versus the mock draft that's just sitting out there.

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Speaker 1: These guys, Bucky Brooks, Daniel Jeremy, they talked to general managers,

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Speaker 1: they talked to scouts. They're not just cooking this up

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Speaker 1: in their basement, right. There's nothing wrong with doing basement

853
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: I like basement work. It's it's interesting. But Brooks is

854
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: bringing information. I like that he didn't shoot down the

855
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: whole Johnny Manziel to the rams room single handedly stoking

856
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: just because there'll be fun come on. We are going

857
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: to because we ran out of time. We'll do the

858
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: roster reset, winners and losers and free agency on Monday's show.

859
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: Give that the time it deserves. We'll get Kevin Patrick.

860
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: I got that. Damn it again. M he did. You're

861
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: gonna start calling it Kevin Patrick. I know before we go,

862
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: Chris Westling is not with us as we know. It

863
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: would have been weird if if he just didn't. Who

864
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: was sitting here the whole time? I'm not speaking, He's

865
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 1: not here. It's an empty chair. He's on Tybee Island.

866
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: Figure every show that he's missing. Maybe we should check

867
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: in on him, just see. You know, some people say

868
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: call the cell phone, but no, there's a great mark.

869
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: There's a better place to call. Right well, I mean

870
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: everything that we know about the activity of west On

871
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: on Tybee Island is a place called Huckapoos, huck a

872
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: Poo's Bar and grill so gold centered behind the glass.

873
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: Would you do as a favor? And I don't know

874
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: if hucka Poo's has a website, Um it's possible. I

875
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: don't know, But if you can look up the number

876
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: and we'll call the bar and see if west is there. Yeah,

877
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: I had a strange feeling this might happen. So actually no,

878
00:43:53,680 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 1: huck a booze. Alright, it's weird by the way, late morning. Well,

879
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: but time difference there there, it's a there's one of those.

880
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 1: Is one of those like novelty clocks and Hucky booser.

881
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: It's like it's always happy hour. It was just always

882
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: on five o'clock. There, there we go. I'm out, West,

883
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: I mean, where else could he be? Hey? How are

884
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: you doing? This is Dan Hansen? Is the Around the

885
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: League podcast? Is Chris Westling. There is Chris Westling at

886
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: the bar. Hold on, you gotta be kidding, West. You're

887
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: at the bar already. Wow, that was good timing. How

888
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: are you, buddy? How are you? Uh? You know we're

889
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: not gonna keep you too long, to be quite honest,

890
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: we didn't think you were going to be there, um

891
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: at this time of day. But you aren't vacation your

892
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: it's your own free will. Yeah. I'm literally walked in

893
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: five seconds before the phone. Right. Well, we just want

894
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: to let you know that we we missed your presents today,

895
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: but you should enjoy yourself. That's your vacation. I am

896
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: I enjoyed myself. And mentally last night, where where were

897
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: you last night? Where he went from the airport to

898
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 1: Southbound Brewery and did like a beer tour, had a beer,

899
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: then went to dinner and then went to Huckaboo. Gotta

900
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: close with huck Apoos you got ls. I can't tell

901
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: you how awesome it is that we just called Huckpoos

902
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: in the middle of the afternoon and you're you're settling

903
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: into your seat like norm from Cheers, Cliff clayven I

904
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: should say, yeah, well do that? Do you sit there?

905
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe we'll we'll catch up with you

906
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: again at huck a Poos a little later next week.

907
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: All right, thanks to al right, every good weekend. Wait,

908
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: I like how there's already at least sixty to seventy

909
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: people in there? How big is this place? She just

910
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: handed the phone and he's just like, oh yeah, he's

911
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: right here, Like he's standing right next to the phone

912
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: as we call. There's one of more the more surreal

913
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: things I've ever seen life. And she took an all shot.

914
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, yeah, here he is. I don't find it.

915
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: That's surreal knowing West. Yeah, that's fair. All right, let's

916
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 1: get out of here. But before we do. Hey, Gold Center,

917
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: is there someone behind the glass with you we can't see. Yeah,

918
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: I've got I've got a friend here. Actually, oh wow,

919
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: two weeks in a row. Okay, Rich, Hey guys, you

920
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: know it's Friday, so I had to make up here

921
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: in suction Friday as we closed, and you know what,

922
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: Dan is so high off the jet. The show has

923
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: just slipped into the complete surreal I have a good one, guys,

924
00:46:55,160 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: Rich w B wh