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Speaker 2: Why are we being denied parts? It doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: Pandemic's over in the eyes of the government. Pandemic's over

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Speaker 2: in the eyes of the medical field. CDC just you know,

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Speaker 2: lifted any kind of bands. I read that in the

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Speaker 2: paper the other day. So what are they trying to do?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: You got me lit up?

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Speaker 4: Now the car doctor there tell me a clutch is

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Speaker 4: thirteen forty to put a clutch in? Does that sound right?

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Speaker 2: That's cheap, that's cheap. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to the radio home of ron An Aiuan, the

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Speaker 5: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car

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Speaker 5: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on

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Speaker 5: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal,

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Speaker 5: pick up the phone and call in.

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Speaker 2: The garage doors are open, but I am here to

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Speaker 2: take your call at eight five five, five hundred and

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Speaker 2: now he.

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Speaker 4: Running.

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Speaker 2: I'm just letting you all know I'm kind of in

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Speaker 2: a weird mood today, so just just all sorts of crazy.

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Speaker 2: It must have been. It feels like it's been a

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Speaker 2: full moon for about three and a half years the

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Speaker 2: week I had so just I'm just letting you know

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Speaker 2: that this should be a wild show. We had a customer,

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Speaker 2: a new customer with a twenty eleven f one point

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Speaker 2: fifty persented to us recently for it didn't run right.

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Speaker 2: It had some shake and some burp and miss and

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Speaker 2: you know, just check engine light on and there was

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Speaker 2: something wrong with this truck. It was hurting and it

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Speaker 2: it just a lot of it didn't make any sense. Now,

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Speaker 2: the local Ford dealer had looked at it. And what

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Speaker 2: intrigued me was the local Ford dealer told him that

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Speaker 2: after the check engine light was on that he should

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Speaker 2: just drive it and the light would clear itself out

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Speaker 2: and the problem would go away. And I went, wow,

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Speaker 2: fairies and pixies must exist. I just I went, look

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Speaker 2: at that. We're gonna we're it's gonna have something magical happen.

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Speaker 2: So then a couple of other threeto or three repair

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Speaker 2: shops look at this, and everybody was kind of left

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Speaker 2: scratching their head. So you know, of course it ends

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Speaker 2: up on my doorstep because I guess I'm next in

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Speaker 2: the rotation, and I, you know, I took it on

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Speaker 2: and I you know, Mike, you just got to give

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Speaker 2: me some time and let me go through it. I'll

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Speaker 2: do my thing. You know, it was funny. It ran okay,

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Speaker 2: but it didn't run okay. It had this real light

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Speaker 2: like vibration at idle. It it felt like and I

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Speaker 2: I hate to use that word right because I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to teach us all. We can't say it felt like

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Speaker 2: because feeling isn't part of tero repair diagnosing as part

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Speaker 2: of whatter repair. But it felt like. It felt like

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Speaker 2: a bad motor mount. You know, it just had that

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Speaker 2: rumble to it. It just wasn't smooth. And I ran

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Speaker 2: through some diagnostic test I have the ability to. I ran.

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Speaker 2: I ran an electronic impression test, which isn't an actual

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Speaker 2: mechanical compression test. It will show static difference between cylinders

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Speaker 2: on a cranking basis. Look at voltage drop across the

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Speaker 2: starter to you know, is there is there one cylinder

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Speaker 2: that's creating more of a drop than less. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm transferring that into more more resistance than less resistance.

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Speaker 2: And you know, is it high compression, low compression that

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Speaker 2: kind of thing. No, And you know, cranking compression test

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Speaker 2: was good. I did a fuel injection power balance. It

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Speaker 2: was good, but yet when I scanned for codes, it

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Speaker 2: had a P zero three hundred random misfire and a

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Speaker 2: P zero three sixteen misfire felt during cranking under five

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Speaker 2: hundred rpm or four hundred rpm, whatever the number is.

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Speaker 2: It was at low speed crank when you go to

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Speaker 2: fire it up, you know. And I ran through a

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Speaker 2: couple of other things, and I looked at the obvious.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to, you know, I didn't want to

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Speaker 2: overlook anything, because how do we fix things? Guys? Right,

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Speaker 2: it's it's you know, tell me what's good. I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you what's bad. And I got to the end of

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Speaker 2: my time with it, and I had some suspicions, but

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Speaker 2: so I call them up. I said, Mike, tell me

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Speaker 2: That the vehicle had been sitting for a year, he

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Speaker 2: was incapacitated, had some medical conditions going on, and then

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Speaker 2: he was able to drive, but he didn't drive a

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Speaker 2: And then he said he started it up last September,

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Speaker 2: what's that eight nine months ago, and it just within

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Speaker 2: a month of driving it, he said, it just started

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Speaker 2: to run like this. The check engine light popped on

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Speaker 2: and it ran funny, and it just did all kinds

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Speaker 2: of you know, the trans didn't shift right, the engine

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Speaker 2: wasn't smooth, it was just kind of cock eyed. So

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Speaker 2: I went back at it again because now I knew

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Speaker 2: what was wrong with it. I really did. I knew,

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Speaker 2: with it. Now we had to go find it. I

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Speaker 2: had to go find where it was living. So I

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Speaker 2: And fortunately I have the ability to dial in for

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Speaker 2: tech support because every once in a while I want

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Speaker 2: a second opinion myself. And I talked to Ed over

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Speaker 2: at Opus IVS, and the neat thing with Opus is

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Speaker 2: when you when you dial in, you can actually send

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Speaker 2: them you know, heart rate and blood pressure. I can

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Speaker 2: actually Eddie, let's go look at this, and we you know,

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Speaker 2: we looked at fuel trims, and we looked at a

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Speaker 2: couple of other things, and I said, and look at this,

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Speaker 2: and then he saw it, and then I saw it

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Speaker 2: that it was. This was a flex fuel vehicle, and

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Speaker 2: the flex fuel factor all right, meaning this vehicle can

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Speaker 2: run on anything from E eighty five down to E fifteen.

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Speaker 2: The flex fuel factor was sixty three percent, which is

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Speaker 2: odd because you can't buy First of all, it's sixty

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Speaker 2: three percent. I know of no gas station that sells

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Speaker 2: want to have a fudge factor, you know. And I

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Speaker 2: know of no place within fifty miles of the shop

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Speaker 2: where you can get E eighty five. So why was

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Speaker 2: the flex fuel value at E sixty three? So we

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Speaker 2: talked about it, Eddie and I from Opus, and we decided,

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Speaker 2: let's do let's do an ethanol test. So and he

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Speaker 2: was gracious enough. My copy wasn't current. He sent me

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Speaker 2: updated it. And it's real simple to do. It's a

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Speaker 2: it's a you know, graduated beaker. It's it's add so

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Speaker 2: and separate and so on and so forth, and the

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Speaker 2: test kind of lays it out. And I did the test,

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Speaker 2: and while I didn't have E sixty three in this vehicle,

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Speaker 2: this vehicle had E twenty. And I said, so let

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Speaker 2: me think about this. Now, I've got a vehicle that's

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Speaker 2: reporting erroneous flex fuel condition. I've got E twenty in

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Speaker 2: the tank, even though the customer's telling me he's going

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Speaker 2: to a gas station that I know of that sells

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Speaker 2: kind of fudging it. And that's a whole nother store, right,

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Speaker 2: because water's got to be cheaper than you know, corn,

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Speaker 2: So why does it say sixty three? And then I

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Speaker 2: said to myself, well, what creates that that value? How

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Speaker 2: does it calculate that? And I talked to Eddie again

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Speaker 2: and he went and researched for me because I had

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Speaker 2: the question. I said, I don't think this vehicle has

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Speaker 2: a sensor, and he said, no, you're right. It's calculated

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Speaker 2: based on mass airflow sensor and a couple of other things.

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Speaker 2: It looks at mass airflow and it looks at a

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Speaker 2: value is. It's a neat circumstance. It really is. You know,

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Speaker 2: we always talk about long term and short term fuel trim. Well,

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Speaker 2: a flex fuel vehicle, this particular ford I'll speak of,

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Speaker 2: has a third modifier, flexible fuel. So the vehicle has

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Speaker 2: to look at its flexible fuel value to decide how

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Speaker 2: it gets from the various inputs, among which two and

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Speaker 2: air fuel sensors and so on. So if the flex

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Speaker 2: volumetric efficiency, it passed calculated load, but yet this truck

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Speaker 2: had cock eyed flex fuel. And then I realized it,

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Speaker 2: and that's when I had the AHA moment. Mike said,

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Speaker 2: this truck sat for two years. Just about I went

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Speaker 2: and I took the mass airflow sensor off. I said,

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Speaker 2: was clean. There was no dirt, there was no and

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Speaker 2: I was looking. I was looking for something. I was

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Speaker 2: looking for a spider web. I was looking for something

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Speaker 2: took the mass airflow sensor and I tapped it gently

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Speaker 2: on the workbench and the dead spider fell out of

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Speaker 2: it from the inside. That you couldn't say so a

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Speaker 2: spider smaller than small had crawled up inside the mass

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Speaker 2: airflow scent and gotten tucked up in the wind tunnel

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Speaker 2: of the sensor where the air turbulence is flowing. The

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Speaker 2: air flowing through with turbulence to help the engine calculate

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Speaker 2: somehow that spider skewed the mass airflow numbers enough that

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Speaker 2: it didn't effect whether or not the sensor was working

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Speaker 2: that it convinced the vehicle that it had E sixty three,

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Speaker 2: which doesn't exist, and it actually was making a lean misfire.

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Speaker 2: And that's what it just put all the pieces of

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Speaker 2: the puzzle together. When I looked at misfires by cylinder,

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Speaker 2: which Ford really doesn't have, but through one of the

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Speaker 2: scan tools I've got, I was able to see that

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Speaker 2: and then verify it with Mote six in the opus

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Speaker 2: that this vehicle had a lean misfire condition created by

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Speaker 2: a dead spider in the mass airflow sensor that created

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Speaker 2: erroneous readings skewing flex fuel value, causing the fuel trim

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Speaker 2: to be mo and create the stumble. I knocked the

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Speaker 2: it all together, did a CAM reset, which is a

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Speaker 2: memory reset for fuel trim, along with a few other things,

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Speaker 2: and started the truck up, did a relearn drove it.

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Speaker 2: Car drove great, truck drove great. It's been ten days now,

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Speaker 2: maybe two weeks, and I'll do to see Mike again

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Speaker 2: in another week. He's going to come back. We gotta

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Speaker 2: some service work to it. I'm sure it's fine. I

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Speaker 2: would have heard so. I guess critics and Cars takes

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Speaker 2: a foul turn because there's just so much more you've

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Speaker 2: got to stop and consider, right, And the point of

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Speaker 2: all this is you've got to ask questions, whether it's

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Speaker 2: you working on your own stuff, or whether it's the

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Speaker 2: mechanic and you're working on it and you're talking to

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Speaker 2: the customer, or you, hey, when did this problem happen.

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Speaker 2: It's so important to have that information all right, that

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Speaker 2: you can explain it to somebody, or you can understand

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Speaker 2: it from somebody. You know, you've got to get the

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Speaker 2: facts that fifteen to twenty minutes of interview. At the

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Speaker 2: beginning of any diagnostic that can reap really big dividends,

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Speaker 2: especially when you're gonna go find a dead spider in

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Speaker 2: a mass airflow sensor. And that's what's driving everybody nuts.

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Speaker 2: A five five five six zero nine nine zero zero.

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Speaker 3: Thank you a long time listener. Uh, this is my

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Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this did you actually did

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Speaker 2: First thing you've got to do is put a full

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Speaker 3: No, okay, oh he said. He came out and started

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Speaker 2: The and the low The low light is flashing, correct.

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Speaker 3: It was, It was flashing, and then he said a trip,

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Speaker 3: The low high came on flashing for a couple of seconds.

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Speaker 3: Done that one right back and the full wheel drive low.

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Speaker 2: And the first step, I want to know why that

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Speaker 2: Because they've they've disabled it for lack of seeing something?

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Speaker 2: Right, traction control yeah? Yeah right, yeah, yeah, a scan.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of like this, Dennis. You got

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Speaker 2: So you don't want to hurt something. Has it been

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Speaker 3: The next three times a week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So don't uh, and don't try. Don't don't try

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Speaker 2: You've got information there this this could become an intermittent problem.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Now I'm eighty four and I don't remember a

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Speaker 2: Well, he should follow the spec out of the owner's manual,

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Speaker 3: Whether you decide to look for the owners man.

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Speaker 2: Look at the owner's manual about shifting out of four

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Speaker 3: Low shifting okay, all right.

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Speaker 2: And there'll be a procedure that'll that'll lay that out

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Speaker 3: All right, Okay, great, thank you, you're.

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Speaker 2: Very welcome Dennis. Thanks for being a long time Card

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Speaker 2: Doctor listener, and we appreciate you and your question. Sir, Yes, sir, yeah,

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Speaker 2: a lot of technology there and a code scan will

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Speaker 2: and Maine oh five Toyota four runner with a dead cluster. Bob,

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Speaker 1: Well, this is a second dead cluster I've had. It's

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Speaker 1: got one hundred right around one hundred and forty five

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Speaker 1: Any any ideas what this could be?

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Speaker 2: So let's let's back up a second. This is the

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Speaker 2: Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: The first one just died. No lights, nothing except for

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Speaker 2: Like that, okay, And and you put another cluster in

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Speaker 1: It worked for a while, all right, and then this

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Speaker 2: How long has it been since the first cluster filled?

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Speaker 2: Okay? And where'd you get this second cluster from?

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Speaker 1: Used parts?

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Speaker 2: you just got another bad use cluster. Use bad clusters

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Speaker 2: So you know, I would not be surprised. Now, I'm

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, you can get a Reman's like three hundred.

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Speaker 2: Okay from Toyota.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't know who it is. Something in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: You know what they're like.

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Speaker 2: have you considered just going online and looking at Dorman

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Speaker 2: Doormanproducts dot com. I don't know that they make a

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Speaker 2: they're just they're just rolling the dice. It is not

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Speaker 2: what's the guarantee? You know, if they told me, hey,

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Speaker 2: three years unlimited mileage, great, I'm in three hundred bucks.

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Speaker 2: I'll do that one hundred dollars a year. But it's

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Speaker 2: It's not enough, you know, it's it's it's it's not enough.

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Speaker 2: Listen if it makes you feel any better. I've got

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Speaker 2: an O seven tacoma that somebody didn't want to fix.

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00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 2: I'm fixing it for a family member. Right, we're going

434
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,479
Speaker 2: through it and We're just looking at the number of

435
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 2: things that have to be replaced on a sixteen year

436
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: old vehicle as far as you know from rust and age.

437
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: And but the bottom line is I'm happy to you know,

438
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 2: and he's happy to spend the money, and I'm happy

439
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: to do it for him because you can't buy that

440
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 2: truck today for less than forty grand Oh, I know,

441
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: I know.

442
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: And that's and mine has relatively low mileage.

443
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 2: So how's the frame is great? Yeah? Yeah, the fore

444
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 2: Runners I don't think had the frame issue. Was that

445
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 2: the Comas that had the frame issue for some reason?

446
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 2: There's a fore Runner frame the same I don't remember.

447
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 1: That now, but the same size.

448
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if it isn't so, I just can't

449
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: careful look at the frame. We're always worried about rust

450
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: on those vehicles. You know, it's be the perfect place

451
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: to use n h OU New Hampshire oil undercoating. Unfortunately,

452
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 2: unfortunately Toota decide to let those vehicles run rust too

453
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: late in life, and at that point they weren't you

454
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: weren't able to save them. But if anybody's got to,

455
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 2: I got to tell you, if anybody's got at the

456
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 2: coma or fore Runner or anything that's gonna rust before

457
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: it rusts New Hampshire Oil Undercoating dot com. Because that

458
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 2: stuff works great. It's it's a that's a whole other

459
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 2: conversation though, But yeah, go out to Dormanproducts dot com

460
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 2: and see what they've got, Bob, and you know, try

461
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: that and then if not, but do the tests, you know,

462
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: do what I talk to you about, because it's so

463
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 2: important to know, you know, rather than just randomly replace it. Uh,

464
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: you know, power ground, can it see it on the

465
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: can it see it on the data bus? Can have communication?

466
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 2: Because if it's got a communication fault. You know, you

467
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 2: ever have a bad telephone.

468
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 7: In the house a couple of times?

469
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know none of the phones worked and

470
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: then you found the phone in the basement that got

471
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 2: you know, moisture or whatever and just corroded and wiped

472
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: out the whole right, same thing, different different models, So

473
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: it just it just works like that. So before you

474
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: spend the money, all right, sir, All right, thank you,

475
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: You're very welcome. You have a great rest of the day.

476
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 2: It's it's important, right diagnosis is and then sometimes you

477
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: never know, right if diagnosis is going to save you

478
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 2: just never know when something's going to go wrong. I

479
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 2: have a real great you know, I'm gonna tell this

480
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: story on the other side of the break because I

481
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 2: have a real great story of the cavalry. Had a

482
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 2: ride hard last night and all I heard in my

483
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 2: head was the story when I get back, I'm running

484
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: any and the car doctor. Don't go away? All right,

485
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 2: I'm back. Cavalry story in a minute. The phones are

486
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: too busy. Let me let me continue on here. Corey

487
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: in Elko, Nevada. How are you today, sir? How can

488
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: I help?

489
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 8: Good you?

490
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: I'm good man? What's cooking?

491
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 8: Hey? Yeah? I just recently got a lift on my

492
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 8: RAM fifteen okay, yep. And it was the rear ends

493
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 8: really bouncy and it's a rough, rough country lift and

494
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 8: I know they're not the best list, but it's like

495
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 8: super bouncy. And I'm not sure if it maybe shocks

496
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 8: or springs.

497
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: Well, so it's you know, it's one or the other,

498
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: for lack of a better way to say it. Did

499
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: they did they what did they change? Did they change

500
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 2: springs and shocks? Did they put extension blocks on? You know?

501
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: How did they get how did they get the four

502
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: inch lift out of it.

503
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 8: All I know is it was a it was a

504
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 8: big name brand, uh shop that did it. I'm not

505
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 8: going to say the name, but uh, it was just

506
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 8: a four inch suspension rough country lift is all I know.

507
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 8: I know the shocks they put on and I'm not

508
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 8: sure on the springs.

509
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: Okay, So for all you know, it's the stock springs

510
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 2: with new shocks.

511
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 8: As far as I know.

512
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so let's let's think of it. Let's

513
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: let's attack this. Let's think of it like this. All right.

514
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: A spring is what supports the show. It was what

515
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 2: supports the truck. The shock controls the spring, all right,

516
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: So you know, if deflection spring rate is fifteen hundred pounds,

517
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: for conversation's sake, they might I'd have the stock springing

518
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: there with a shock that is longer and beefier to

519
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: give it more control, and that partially that rougher ride.

520
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: All right, okay, you know, and then they had either

521
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: either the shock is longer or they put an extension

522
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: on it, or they put a space or block somewhere

523
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 2: to lift the spring away from the rear to give

524
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: it the height. You know, it depends on there's a

525
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: bunch of different ways for them to do lifts. But

526
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: your concern is you know, you you want it, you

527
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: want it to ride like it did, right, Well.

528
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 8: No, I can you know, I know the ride's going

529
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 8: to be a little rougher, but like, for instance, I

530
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 8: put my fourheler in the back of it, and it's

531
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 8: almost still like when I go down you know, rough

532
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 8: road hunting, like it's almost hitting the bump stops on

533
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 8: the rear end.

534
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 2: Okay, but it's not. It's not bottoming out. But it's

535
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 2: what you're telling What you're telling me is you're two

536
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 2: steps away from buying the kidney belt in the mouthguard.

537
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, no good. So I wonder what

538
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: would happen if you added some weight to this vehicle

539
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: for ballast, just to see how would it ride? All right? Yeah,

540
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: you know, just just and I don't mean a lot,

541
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: you know, four hundred pounds might make the difference. But

542
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: then where do you put your four wheeler? Where do

543
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: you put your you know, where do you put your

544
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 2: equipment when you're going camping?

545
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 7: Yeah?

546
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 2: Did you change tires on this corry?

547
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 5: Uh?

548
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 7: Yeah?

549
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 8: I went from yeah, they're thirty fives on it now okay?

550
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: And what tire pressure. Are you running about forty?

551
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 6: All right?

552
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 2: Just for giggles, and I know this is going to

553
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: be underinflated, but just to see how does it handle?

554
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: Drop it five pounds and then drop and then drop

555
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: it another five all right? You know, I don't want

556
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: you to go two locals. They're thirty fives. Now you're

557
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 2: gonna You're gonna wear tires faster at a lower pressure

558
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: because thirty fives are typically a forty or forty five

559
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: pound range. But I'm just I'm just playing with it,

560
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: trying to see what happens. Have you have you talked

561
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: to Rough Country yet, you know, called up the manufacturer

562
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: and said, hey, you know, i've got one of your kids.

563
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: I've got kit number or whatever it is, x y

564
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: Z and I've really got a harsh ride. Have you

565
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: had this complaint before? Is there a way around it?

566
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: And maybe they can offer you a different shock with

567
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: the same lift that will give it a better ride.

568
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 8: No, yeah, I haven't. I haven't talked to them at all,

569
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,239
Speaker 8: or the I talked to the shop that installed it,

570
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 8: and they're wanting to charge me just to look at it.

571
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 8: So wow, there's I'm just kind of I'm figuring either

572
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 8: like said, trucks or springs. And I'm not sure which

573
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 8: one because like when I'm driving down the road, you

574
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 8: can look in my rear view mirror and that tire,

575
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 8: you know, down a gravel bumpy road, and that tire

576
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 8: is just bouncing up and down.

577
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: Like a lot, right, So you have you actually have wheel.

578
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 8: Hop yeah you know, and like it and it gets worse,

579
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 8: like you said, when I load my four wheela in

580
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 8: the back of the truck and put that weight on there,

581
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 8: it gets Yeah.

582
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: Did they do did they do the tires and the

583
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: lift kit all at once or with these tires on

584
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: the truck?

585
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 8: No, all at once?

586
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: Right? So which is it the chicken or the egg

587
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: which came first?

588
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 8: Yeah? Right, yeah, I'm not sure.

589
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: So how about this, how about can you take a

590
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: video with your cell phone? Which is going to be

591
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: a tough trick. So maybe you got to have somebody

592
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: drive the truck and you you look in the passenger

593
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: side mirror and take a video of the tire bouncing.

594
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 8: And then I actually got a video.

595
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: All right, And then maybe go back and talk to

596
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: the owner of the shop that installed and said, listen,

597
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: I came down to you guys in good faith, you

598
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: know what, I understand, you got to look at me.

599
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: But here can you take Can you take two minutes

600
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: and just look at this? You know obviously this obviously

601
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: this isn't normal. And I just want to know your

602
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: thoughts because maybe you've got a bad kit, maybe you've

603
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: got a seized shock, all right, and then you know,

604
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: and then I'm going on the assumption here that they

605
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: did shocks and tires with the lift block of some

606
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: kind or an extension, and that the springs are stock

607
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: all right. Where this conversation gets a deeper, darker turn

608
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: is if we find out they did springs, shocks, and

609
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: tires all at once, in which case it sounds like

610
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: the vehicle is oversprung. All right, there's just there's just

611
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: too much suspension in the vehicle, or you need more weight.

612
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: It would really be it would really be interesting if

613
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: there was an easy, simple way for you to put

614
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: five hundred pounds in the back of this truck and

615
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: go for a rud Well.

616
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 8: Well, my my four wheeler is like seven hundred pounds.

617
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Well then I've had it in the back of

618
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: the truck and it makes no difference.

619
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 8: No, it almost seems like it's almost worse. I don't know. Yeah,

620
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 8: it's definitely not better.

621
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's then I think I think I got to

622
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: show somebody a video and listen, I've done work for

623
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: everybody in my lifetime, in my career, and you know what,

624
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: I'm always obligated to go back and look. Yeah, you

625
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: know they're they're obligated to go back and look. My

626
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: father's gone since I'm eleven years old, you do the

627
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: math in the late sixties. I still remember him to

628
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: this day telling my mom, I won't be home on

629
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: time for dinner tomorrow night. I got to stop and

630
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: so and so's and check this carpet we put in.

631
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: My father owned a carpet store, and I've got to

632
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: go look at this carpet we put in four years ago.

633
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: You know what, You're always obligated to look at what

634
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: you did for a customer, because that's what the game's about.

635
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: So do those things, and then, by all means, give

636
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: me a call back, Corey. I'm here for you, man,

637
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: let me know what happens, all right, you'd be well,

638
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: I'm running any in the car, doctor, I'll be back

639
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: right after this. Oki Doki, We're back gee, no cavalry

640
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: story this hour, I got more phone calls. I'm sorry,

641
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: We'll do it next hour. Let's go over to John

642
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: at Missouri. John thirteen f one to fifty front wheelbaring issues, questions, comments, Yes, sir,

643
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: how can I help?

644
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 7: Hey sir? Yeah, I just turned over one hundred thousand

645
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 7: miles and it sounds like you're driving on rails, you know,

646
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 7: train track. Okay, So I tipped the dealer and they

647
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 7: looked at it and said, yeah, you eat front wheel bearings.

648
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 7: We can't get them. We can get after markets. And

649
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Speaker 7: I'm thinking, I'm I'm pretty good mechanics. Can I disassemble

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Speaker 7: them and install you know, like aftermarket bearings, like good

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Speaker 7: quality tinkin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Timpkin or Timpkin or move or you know.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: The question I've got is this is a four wheel

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Speaker 2: drive truck or two wheel drive?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yes, four wheeler. So the question I've got is how

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Speaker 2: does the four wheel drive set up work?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's vacuum hubs up? There are the

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Speaker 2: mechanical hubs? Are they?

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Speaker 7: There is a vacuum. There is vacuum valves.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's okay. So there this is this is that,

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Speaker 2: this is that, this is the I forty four R

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Speaker 2: or diff. So the question here becomes, you know about

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Speaker 2: special tooling. Some of these required a special tool to

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Speaker 2: center a seal around the bearing, and some did not,

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Speaker 2: So I would have to I would have to see

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Speaker 2: the procedure. What's the dealer quoting you to do the bearings?

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Speaker 7: How about thirteen hundred?

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Speaker 2: It's worth reading a manual, isn't it?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Sure is.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm surprised that they can't get them, although

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Speaker 2: I got to tell you that's the current state of

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Speaker 2: things that we're running. We're running short on everything. So

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Speaker 2: I would take a look at a procedure John, and

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Speaker 2: you know, see what that tells you and if you

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Speaker 2: can do it, Yeah, it's nuts and bolts at that point.

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Speaker 2: It's just maybe some time to get it all out

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Speaker 2: and get it apart. You got any questions, give me

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Speaker 2: a call back. I'll be here each and every week

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Speaker 2: till then I'm running any in the car doctor reminding

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Speaker 2: all of you good mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. See

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Speaker 2: you

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Speaker 6: Sis,