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But we had 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.000 to fit the mailbag in and we also have to 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:30.240 fit in a smidge of time to talk about the 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.480 best team in baseball, the team who has not lost, 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.720 like your favorite team has probably lost in the last 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.440 eight games. Not the A's, not the Oakland A's, not 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.320 the Juggernaut A's, not the A's that I said have 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.880 a slightly below average offense. Let's not forget about that. 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.839 You said there must be TV based you are right, yes, yeah, 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:54.880 I mean you also predicted that they would have the 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:59.000 most incredible fan interaction that we've seen in a game ever. Like, no, 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.000 but certainly that game, by the way, was just so 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.320 much fun. I won't pretend I watched the whole thing, 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:10.200 but the fact that that whole event, what we had 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.120 going on there, and for those who don't know, like 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:14.600 what was the best way to categorize this thing, Peter, 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:18.520 It was basically a reverse boycott in the effort of 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:23.479 Oakland fans to show, hey, we exist. Hey this is 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:27.960 a good baseball market. But like anything, like any product, 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.559 if the product is trash, the market will not be 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.560 very eager to you know, go spend money in and 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.360 go watch or consume or whatever the product may be. 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:42.000 The product is absolute garbage. We know that I admire 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:46.280 the A's players for working hard and grinding and competing, 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:47.640 but at the end of the day, a lot of 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:50.400 these guys probably wouldn't get big leag opportunities elsewhere. That's 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.320 not the point though. The point is that we saw 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.839 a bunch of Oakland A's fans show out in Unison. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.360 What was it twenty eight thousand nearly that showed up 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.680 to this ball on a Tuesday night? Right, was it 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:03.560 a Tuesday night? 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:09.560 Brushintaro Fujinami opener to Hogan Harris taken on Jalen me Well. 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.280 By the way, Hogan Harris was lights out, by. 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.840 The lights out, seven innings, four hits, one earned, and 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.920 it was so great. They raised a bunch of money 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.320 for charity, and even the Oakland A's pitched in and 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.840 said that they were donating all the proceeds that they 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.760 got from ticket revenue to charity as well. Just a 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:26.200 great event and it was actually really good. 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.240 By the way, Sorry to cut you off, but before 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.320 I forgot that was dope, because I was thinking, the 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:33.400 first thing that went into my cynical mind was like, 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.880 oh this this asshole. You know, John Fisher is gonna 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.520 now profit off of this reverse boycott, Like, screw you. 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:41.919 He's gonna make more off off this game than he 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.760 did in several months. But no, it really is great 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:46.440 on the A's for doing that, and that was the 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.000 right way to approach it, to get back to the 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.360 community that's trying to fight to keep the team while 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.080 they are still going to probably move the team out. 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:56.080 It was a nice gesture all things considered. But I 0:05:56.240 --> 0:06:00.760 just this is just everything that baseball like embodies cliches 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.279 and pull out all the cliches. It was storybook. It 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.360 seems like it was an episode or a part out 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.640 of like a chapter out of Major League Like it 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:11.720 just seemed too like, too perfect. And the fact that 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:13.680 they've won that game too, the fact that it's in 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:15.440 the middle of a winning streak, and the fact that 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.680 they did it against the best team in baseball. Like 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.680 if this was an episode of Ted Lasso or whatever, 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:22.800 it would be like you'd be like, oh, okay, yeah, 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.599 this is very you know, this is very sick comy, 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:29.520 Like this is not really a real thing that would happen, 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.360 but it did. They fed off the crowd. The crowd 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:35.000 was awesome, and Hogan Harris shoved. 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.440 That's the reality of the situation. The A's continue to win, 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.880 and fans showed up, and they proved again that it's 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:47.080 not it's not on us. If you give us a 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:51.920 decent ballpark without sewage leaking in, if you give us 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:56.120 a product on the field that at least when I 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.840 go to the ballpark, I can imagine a chance at winning. 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.120 That's all they're asking for. They're not asking for a 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:07.000 dirt payroll. They're not asking for a stadium that's falling apart. 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.280 Invest in us. You don't have to spend a ton 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:14.520 of money. We're not greedy. All we need is a shot, 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.280 and you haven't given us a shot all year. So 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.400 A's fans decided, well, it's in our hands now we're 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.560 gonna do this reverse boycott and all the comments on 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:27.080 social media when it first started before we saw eventually 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.320 how well A's fans handled it. And then of course 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.040 give credit to John Fisher because he did the right 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.640 thing by donating all that ticket revenue. We found that 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.520 A's fans they did their job, yep. 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.200 And they've done in the past. They've showed up when 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.400 they win, they show up, you know. And and that's 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.520 even in that crappy stadium, So it was cool, you know, 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.200 And I think that's something that even if baseball, you know, 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:52.640 presumably leaves Oakland, it's something that I think will always remember, 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.440 and I think a lot of Oakland fans will always 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.920 remember as just a really special ballgame there to beat 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.640 the Rays. Too. But we've got a lot of questions 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:02.679 to get through. We got seven of them. All seven 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:06.480 are really fun, kind of ranging of all different topics, Peter, 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:11.120 and I'm noticing, and you texted me before we started recording, 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.520 there's a deadline slant on the majority of our questions now, 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.680 and we're getting there. You think about it's June fifteenth 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:20.800 as people are listening to this. By the time we 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:24.520 do the next mail bag, it'll be trade season, fully, 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:26.200 and then if there's a mail bag after that, it 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.240 would be like right at the deadline. So we're getting there, 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:29.480 and I understand it, and we're kind of at that 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:33.920 point where teams are deciding what their direction is. So 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:35.680 that kind of leads us into a lot of these questions, 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:37.880 and it leads us into the first one, which you know, 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.360 I obviously wanted to jump on a Marlins question, not 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.000 just because I want to talk about the Marlin. They've 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.520 lost two in a row. I like to hear what 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:46.960 you guys have to say about the Marlins, as you know, 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.120 you Jack kind of covering the whole league, looking at 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.400 the whole league and your thoughts on it. Similar to 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.199 how you ask us you know about the Yankees, and 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.400 Jack will ask us about the White Sox. But I 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.840 never asked about the Marlins because they were never really relevant. 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.480 They kind of are now. Kevin Burrow asks trade deadline 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:04.120 plan for the Marlins question mark, Obviously, we know they 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.960 need catching, but what other positions do you see them targeting? 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.959 And which prospects do you do you find partnering with 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:14.920 to make a trade to boost the major league clubs? 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.319 Sometimes the translation from social media is a little rough, sorry, 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.199 but basically, what the Marlins do, what should their trade 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:24.200 deadline plan be, and what positions should they upgrade? Obviously 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.640 Kimming recently came out and said that they're surveying the 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:29.640 catching market, but like, who isn't what else do you 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.560 see Peter as someone that's you know, obviously not as 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:36.240 emotionally attached maybe to the Marlins. Though I've feel like 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.080 I've done a good job of removing myself to a 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:42.160 degree there, But as an outsider so to speak, what 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.120 would be your answer to Kevin's question in terms of 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.560 what they should do all fill in on the prospect side, 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.960 but specifically in the big league set, what should they answer? 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:52.240 What is the most important area do you? 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.839 I think the most important area is putting Jeens Cigar 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:57.800 on the bench, which they have done more and more. 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:00.480 And I think adding a third basement or a big 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.120 time bat like that to this lineup would help even more. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.360 You know, there's a guy in Milwaukee's pretty good. Have 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:07.600 you heard a Brian Anderson? 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:10.920 Fuck you no? 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:14.079 But in reality, so we talk about how the Giants, right, 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.680 they'll probably be willing to part with a couple of bats. 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:19.560 I don't know if the Giants want a guy like JD. 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.360 Davis long term, but you put a guy like that 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:25.680 on the Miami Marlins, right, because what are the Marlins 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:29.439 always struggling with? Hitting left handed pitching? They've been better 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.360 this season, but again you expect some of that kind 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.800 of to regress back to the mean because normally they're 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.200 better against right handed pitching. I'd like to see them 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.080 add a bat like JD. Davis and they just have 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:44.400 such a surplus of pitching that they can do again 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.959 a Luisa Riaz for a Pablo Lopez type deal. I'm 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:51.040 not saying they're going to do it, but potentially Braxy 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.840 and Garrett for a bat. Right, they don't have to 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.680 go deep into the prospect ranks in order to get 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:00.400 a player. They can go to a relative contender and say, hey, 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:05.000 blue Jays, you need pitching, we need hitting. Right, we 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:08.280 talked about the wit Marrifield type deal from the Blue Jays. Right, 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:13.760 the blue Jays ever since we did that, exactly said that, Sorry, 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:14.560 who's going nuts? 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.080 I said, he's been going nuts ever since we talked 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:17.959 about with He's like. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.120 I don't want no, but that that's what I'm saying. 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.400 So they're in a very good spot. They have a 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.000 prospect surplus that they could potentially trade for for a 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.960 bat to a non contender. But they also have some 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.360 decent MLB pitchers that can help a contender right now 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.840 in order to get a bat. So it's kind of limitless, 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:37.760 like you can kind of do wherever you want. They 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:39.240 are in a good spot here. 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:43.160 So they were they would have been in a great spot. 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:48.080 Now there's some interesting wrinkles that I'll throw to you 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:52.360 here because I agree. But now, with some injuries and 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.880 some innings limitations, the Marlins margin for error is a 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.560 little thinner. They can do something, but they better do 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.199 the right thing here. So I think they did the 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:03.000 right thing by trading pobwe right, But now you look 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.600 at what their situation is Uri Perez, it's more of 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.800 a matter of if, not when, or excuse me, a 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:13.079 matter of when not if. In terms of him getting 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:14.839 shut down and not shut down for the season. I 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:16.360 think they're gonna try to manage his innings so that 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.120 he can pitch later into the year. But remember this 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.080 this kid, he's twenty years old. He's never thrown more 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:23.360 than seventy something innings, so he's already getting there, and 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:25.560 they're gonna want to be very careful with him. I mean, 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.240 you're looking at the next five, six, seven, eight years 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.040 with this guy, and you know how special he is, 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.559 So they got to manage his innings. Trevor Rodgers just 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:35.480 had a little bit of a set back. He probably 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:37.400 could be back back in a couple of weeks, but 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:39.560 it was a setback on his other arm, thank goodness. 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.960 So I think he's fine, Johnny Quato's on his way back. 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.040 That's at least a good depth arm there for you. 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.679 Edward Cabrera didn't look great, but they're gonna ride Wizardo, 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.600 Cabret Sandy all the way. Jake Eater just threw again. 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.720 That's one of their best pitching prospects. Max Meyers out 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.560 for the year, but again he's already throwing and is 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.800 on his way back. Assuming that you have to get 0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:00.240 through several months without Yuri, maybe Trevor's not back, get 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.199 and you're waiting for Cuato to come back, you probably 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.760 got a trade from the minor league surplus or the 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:09.720 minor league guys that you have, And I guess my 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:13.120 question for you is are you sold enough on what 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:17.240 the Marlins are doing to trade a legitimate building block 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.720 or are you going for more of the low budget 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.720 move to go get like a JD. Davis Because to me, 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.520 when you mentioned JD. Davis, that was perfect for me, 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.040 because you're looking at this team, they're always going to 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:31.000 be pitching centric. JD makes a big difference because it's 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:35.000 not just adding JD. Davis, it's replacing Gene Segurro with JD. Davis, 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.800 which is like a net extra win. So I would 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:42.320 almost rather do the smaller move. But have you seen 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:44.480 enough to maybe be excited enough to try to make 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.720 a bigger splash and try to make a more aggressive move. 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:49.560 The thing is, I think you already kind of answered 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.240 your question, right, because if they were to make a 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.840 bigger splash, they got to trade from a lack of 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.320 assets per se. Right, Because if they're going to make 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.480 a splash, they have to trade a Max Meyer and 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.440 a Jake Eder or some sort of combination of those 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:07.240 guys in order to get that big time bat. And 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.559 then what that does is that ultimately takes away from 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.440 your future in starting pitching, which you do have a 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:16.559 good amount of. But Sandy's you know, problems have been 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:20.360 well documented up up to this point, like Lozardo has 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.760 kind of had his ups and downs. URI's gonna go 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.320 down for the season. So if you trade away those 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:30.440 big time pitchers, the the lack of depth is going 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.040 to start going all in years. And then when I 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:36.800 look at the current team as constructed, Jean Sigar is 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:40.160 the only real hole. Like the Marlins aren't this star 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:44.040 studded team. But when I go around the diamond, I'm 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.960 not like that guy sucks. That guy sucks. It's catching 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.040 and it's the Jean Sigura. Yeah, I don't really have 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.120 a problem with their outfield. I don't really have a 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.560 problem with their infield outside of him. I don't have 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:56.800 a problem with their starting pitching. Maybe go get a 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:58.960 couple of bullpen arms. But I think if they make 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.080 small moves within the mar Urgeins, they will be competitive 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.520 this year. And I think that's a step up from 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:05.560 other Marlins teams. 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:07.520 I'm with you. I think that's I think that's one 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.080 hundred percent the move that they should make, especially because 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.320 you mentioned if they do trade from Eater or Meyer, 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.720 you're going all in on the aforementioned arms, which you 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:20.120 have often injured Rogers and you have a I would 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.840 say that Edward Cabrera and Hayess Wizardo are two of 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.960 the most volatile pitchers in baseball right now. We'll like 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.880 it so which you know, they're great and sometimes they're terrible. 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:30.640 So from that lens like do you want to go 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:32.440 all in on that rotation, like you want to have 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:33.880 a little bit of buffer. I think you make a 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:37.920 smaller move bolster the catching position, bolster third base and 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.080 just ride the squad out. But I agree, like there's 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.040 no gaping hole in you get Jazz back, and that's 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:43.920 just another bat to add in there as well. So 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.000 I'm with you on that. I don't think that they 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:49.160 should do anything crazy. I'd make a smaller move or 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.160 two and just kind of piece together and ride with 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:53.520 this team and see what you can do. 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.480 The only issue is there's not a ton of great 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.040 catching options that are going to be available at the deadline, 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.600 so you might just have to roll with Nick Fortes, which. 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.160 Nick Fortes and no, I'm looking at just like upgrading 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.760 from Jacob Stallings, Like just give me like Jon Gomes 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:09.760 to me would be great. I would take. I don't 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.560 like Joey Bart, but like, man, that's fine as a 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.400 second as a second catcher anyone, but Jacob Stallings. I 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.520 think he's actually the worst catcher in Major League Baseball. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.400 He's up there. I mean, Guardians fans would argue about 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.280 Mike Sinino, but that's another for another time. 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.560 Yeah, who's the worst catcher? Just a full hour debate 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:28.920 you and I could probably do that. 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:29.320 I think. 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:35.040 Next question comes from Riley mcelwaine two on Instagram, and 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:36.920 I know that this is one that you like, Peter, 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.400 if you could put a package together for Shane Bieber 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.960 in a trade, what would they look like? So first, here, Peter, 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:45.680 we got to identify a few teams. We've done that 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.880 in a couple of episodes prior. I think the more 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.240 that the Guardians struggle now, the more likely it teams 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.520 that they could move him. What do we think the 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.200 Guardians are looking for and what teams do we think 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:59.080 will be in on the Guardians is where we'll start. All. 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:03.360 Let you pick the teams and then all kind of 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.080 add you know, which teams I think can offer a 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.960 package maybe that the Guardians, yeah, I think would like, 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:11.440 and then we can kind of come together with a conclusion. 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.119 It is so funny, though, because while you're right, the 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.399 Guardians are struggling a little bit, there's still just two 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.399 and a half games back in the Minnesota Twins for 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:22.119 the division. But at the same time, we brought up 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:25.840 the Shane Bieber possible trade proposal before it got announced, 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.119 not because we had some inside source about knowing that 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.160 he potentially get traded, but that it made sense because 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.600 the Guardians have this incredible surplus of starting pitching and 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:36.520 the fact that they haven't signed him to a long 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:40.800 term extension yet may put the writing on the wall 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.719 that they're saying, yeah, we could potentially trade Shane Bieber 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:47.440 if it meant's getting in an impact type that and 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.280 among these reports that I'm reading on them, it is 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:56.880 becoming increasingly clear that more teams are willing to do 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:01.840 the Pablo Lopez for Luisa Rise type trade. That contenders 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.560 are willing to say, hey, we'll trade with another contender. 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:07.359 We need pitching, you need a bat. We got a bat. 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.120 We need a bat, you got pitching. Like that kind 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.560 of trade. It's so rare, which is so rare, rare, 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:14.760 which is getting better. I love those type of trades. 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.520 It feels like fantasy Baseball, right. You don't send some 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:19.399 nineteen year old who maybe you've never heard of it, 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.880 and it's like, well, great, are star just left. Now 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:23.240 we have to wait a couple years and it may 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.639 end up going great for you, But sometimes it doesn't. 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.080 Like when you do that type of trade, you see 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.399 the returns are immediate. So there's plenty of teams that 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.520 I think could not only so we'll go over the 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:39.800 contenders that potentially have a lot of bats who need pitching, 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.400 and number one, we'll just go by division because there's 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:46.200 almost one in every single division. The Baltimore Oriols and 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.920 the Toronto Blue Jays come to my mind first, right, 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:53.440 need pitching. They have MLB ready bats. Orioles have more 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.120 of a prospect surplus that they can go to if 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:59.760 the Guardians are more interested. Right, So the Baltimore Oriols 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:03.240 and the Toronto Blue Jays first up on my list. 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:07.200 Could the Houston Astros be interested? Right? Luis Garcia goes 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:11.600 down Right now, they really only have Hunter Brown, Framber 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:16.320 Valdez and Christianavier because McCullers it just continues to get 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:18.960 piece to and they could really use a guy like 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:19.560 Shane Bieber. 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:21.479 Yeah, I think you have to operate under the assumption 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.920 that mcculors is just not coming back this year really 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:25.200 in any major capacity. 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:28.240 And you could consider the Texas Rangers. I wouldn't be 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:30.560 shocked about them either, and I would consider the Los 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.240 Angeles Angels. So those five in the American League, I 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:36.120 would say, are at the forefront. In the National League. 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.359 I think you could put the Braves in there. Do 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.600 I think they're gonna do it? No? Is it worth 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:46.240 putting them in there. I think so. I think the 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:51.560 Phillies could potentially be definitely involved here. The Mets just 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.840 have Steve Cohen, so they're willing to part with assets 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.240 because they want to compete. Now will they do it? Not? 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:00.959 So sure? Should they be in the conversation? Yeah, I 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:06.399