1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome in. It's the Herd. 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: I'm Danny Parkins in for the great Colin Cowherd. Hey 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: let me come back present it burn the place down 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: completely yesterday. The schedule is that I'll be in tomorrow 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: as well. Well, we'll see how the next three hours goes. 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 2: Appreciate you watching, Appreciate you listening. We've got a great 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: show for you. Aj Perzinski going to join us in 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: about twenty five minutes. Jeff Schwartz, Ben Dowen and my 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: guy Nick Wrights Nickel maybe admit it's being wrong in 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: a sports conversation for the first time ever. Coming up 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: in just over an hour. They'll probably not. I'll defend 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 2: my ranking of Justin Herbert in just a few minutes. 19 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: But I'd like to begin by talking about the biggest 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: boomer Bus team in the NFL. This year, and that 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: is the Pittsburgh Steelers, because man, I get why they 22 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 2: made the move, but I right off the top, I'm 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: gonna make a confession if I give the Steelers the 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 2: vote of confidence, and I am. I like what they've 25 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: done this offseason. It's actually made sense to me. I 26 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: have to also admit to you, for the last four 27 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: years consecutively, I have predicted that the Steelers would have 28 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: their first losing season under Mike Tomlin, and I've been 29 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: wrong time and time and time and time again. So 30 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: now I'm like, I think this is a playoff team. 31 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: I think this team could win a playoff game. I 32 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: think Aaron Rodgers is a little cuckoo, but he's objectively 33 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: better than Mason Rudolph and Kenny Pickett and Duck Hodges 34 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: and Mitch Trubisky. Like I agree with the conventional wisdom. 35 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: If Mike Tomlin can get you a winning record with 36 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: those quarterbacks, he should be able to do better with 37 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. But I think that's just the tip of 38 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: the iceberg here. I thought that when he signed that 39 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: contract and it was a weird number and he signed 40 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: for thirteen million bucks, I was like, there's more coming 41 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: they're not done. And then they made the huge trade 42 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: with Ramsey and John hus Smith and they upgraded their squad. 43 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: And I think the John hu Smith, while not the 44 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: sex of your name, that is the move that really 45 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: does create some versatility for their offense. DK metcalf true 46 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: number one play twelve personnel with your two tight ends. 47 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: With Friarmuth and John Husmith on the field, they can 48 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: block for Aaron because I don't know if you've heard, 49 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: he's on the wrong side of forty Jalen Orn. I 50 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: actually think is an upgrade in the backfield from naj Harris. 51 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: I think that there is a real opportunity here for 52 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: this offense to be good. They won't be top five 53 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: in the NFL, but a good offense. And then when 54 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: you combine that with we know all the talent they 55 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: have on defense and the excellent regular season coaching that 56 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: they get, I think it made a lot of sense. 57 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: But we all would agree also that it's Boomer bust. 58 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: And it feels like based on what Aaron Rodgers has said, 59 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: this is a one shot deal, one year contract. He's 60 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: a mercenary, he got married. He says, what I'm done 61 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: with football. You'll never see or hear from me again, 62 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: I have my doubts. The guy said he loves privacy 63 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: and then invited a documentary crew with him into the wilderness. 64 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: So I got my doubts. But we'll see. And as 65 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: for now, it seems like a one year hired gun situation. 66 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: The Steelers general manager Omar Kahn, who's on with Rich Eisen, 67 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: he was asked about it. He said, it might be 68 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: a little more than that. 69 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: Obviously, you know, we have to see how the season goes. 70 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 4: But I absolutely you know, he's a young forty one, 71 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 4: and you know we're obviously taking it year by year, 72 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 4: and that's where we're at. 73 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 2: So I assume this is a one year deal. And 74 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: my question though, is, let's say I'm wrong again about 75 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: the Steelers and they're not as good as they clearly 76 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: think they can be. Because you only do this if 77 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: you think you can end you're going on nine year 78 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 2: playoff drought without a playoff win. That's the only reason 79 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: you sign up for the circus that is Aaron Rodgers, 80 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: for the appearances, for the offseason, for the three month 81 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: holding pattern, for all of it, right, because you believe 82 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: your team is ready to win multiple playoff games in January, 83 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 2: and this is the missing piece. It's the only reason 84 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: you sign up for the circus if they're wrong, and 85 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: then I guess if I'm wrong. And this is the 86 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: first losing season under Mike Tomlin, and it is like 87 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: the Jets season last year and they win six seven 88 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: games are non competitive against good teams. Aaron Rodgers is 89 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: not even a top fifteen or twenty quarterback in the NFL. 90 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: Is there any scenario where the heat shifts to Mike Tomlin? 91 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying they're going to fire him, because 92 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: clearly the Steelers don't fire anyone. It's maybe the single 93 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: most unbelievable fact in all of football that in the 94 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: history of the Pittsburgh Steelers they've had three head coaches. 95 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: It's remarkable, But if I just told you that a 96 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: head coach, it had been eight seasons since they had 97 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: won a playoff game, and in that time they were 98 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 2: zero to five in the postseason. And in that time 99 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: he had had five offensive coordinators and eight different starting quarterbacks. 100 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 2: And as the defensive coach in those playoff games, he's 101 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: given up forty plus to Blake Bortles and Baker Mayfield 102 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: and getting Boat raced by Patrick Mahomes, and it's like, 103 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: oh my god, some of these are great quarterbacks, some 104 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: of these are not. Some of these you were favored, 105 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: some of these you weren't. You're a thirteen win team, 106 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: you bounced immediately in the postseason. Any other coach and 107 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: any other organization would be on the hot seat. And 108 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: again they won't fire him. But if it doesn't work 109 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: with Rogers and Tomlin becomes more of the reputation of 110 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 2: high floor, low ceiling, he can only win big if 111 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: he has a Hall of Fame quarterback in his prime. 112 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: They're always going to be too good to draft one 113 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: because he will have you at eight or nine wins 114 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: as a floor. So what is his path to getting 115 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: Drew Aller or Arch Manning or a top five Pike 116 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: at quarterback? And they'll just be in this middle purgatory 117 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: space in the NFL with nowhere to go from here. 118 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: So I think this is going to work, and they'll 119 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: win ten to eleven games, maybe win a playoff game, 120 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: Like that's my definition of working. They're not a super 121 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: Bowl team. I don't think that they have that high 122 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: of a ceiling, but I think they're a double digit 123 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: win team. That can win one playoff game and end 124 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: that drought. But then the question is, and then what, 125 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: Because the whole thing is the standard is the standard? 126 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: Excellence is the standard? Ten wins in a Wild's card 127 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: win is not excellence, And then they're still in the 128 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: exact same situation they found themselves in coming out of 129 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: last year with no long term answer at quarterbacks. So 130 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: while I expect success, the much more interesting questions is 131 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: what happens if there's failure. 132 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 5: The pushback I. 133 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: Got yesterday from my top ten quarterback list was mostly 134 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: from Eagles fans who are upset, and I respect it 135 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: and love it, and it's a passionate fan base, but 136 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: it was also centered around my guy, Justin Herbert. And 137 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: I will fully admit to you that I sit down 138 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 2: on my couch on Sundays and I just watch eleven 139 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: straight hours of football, and then I watch Monday night 140 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: and Thursday night, and I watch all these games and 141 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: then I rewatched them and all that, and I come 142 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: from it from more of the analytical and number side, 143 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: but then I just actually love watching the games. I 144 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: don't fancy myself a scout anything like that, but I 145 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: will say Justin Herbert passes the eye test as much 146 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: as any quarterback I've ever seen. I am just so 147 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: utterly convinced that this dude is a superstar, and that 148 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: he has been the victim of Anthony Lynn and Brandon 149 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: Staley and bad special teams misses and incompetence and terrible 150 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: injury luck around him, and two bad playoff games, one 151 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: terrible comeback allowed by the Jaguars, and then last year 152 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: the four interceptions against the Texans. Can't sugarcoat it, though 153 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: two of those interceptions were off his receiver's hands and 154 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: there was a bit of a snowball effect there. But 155 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: I watched this guy and I am just convinced that 156 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 2: he's one of the best players in football. And if 157 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: he was just in a better situation, everybody would know 158 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: that and it would become conventional wisdom. And now they 159 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: hire a true winner in Jim Harbaugh. Last year, Justin 160 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: Herbert has over five hundred pass attempts, which was down 161 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: because hardball likes to run the ball, But he had 162 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: over five one hundred pass attempts and three interceptions. He 163 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: had more interceptions in that one playoff loss than he 164 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: had all season. It was a true outlier. Worst case 165 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: scenario performance and so I'm trusting my eyes on this 166 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: one and a belief in Harbaugh. They were the number 167 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: one scoring defense last year. They draft Hampton, they're going 168 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: to upgrade the rushing attack. I love the pick of 169 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: Trey Harris, the deep threat, speedster form on the outside. 170 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: Mconkey's a stud. Arguably the best tackle duo in the 171 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: NFL outside of Philadelphia. Detroit might have something to say 172 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: about it, but it's a top three tackle duo in 173 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 2: the NFL at a minimum. This is the year, and 174 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: this is the year for what you say. This is 175 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: the year for Justin Herbert to stay on the Peyton 176 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: Manning track. Peyton Manning was in a bit of the 177 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 2: wilderness early in his career. Different coach, a bunch of interceptions, 178 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 2: no playoff success, and if you study it, and I 179 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: know some people will say different era of the NFL 180 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: in terms of volume of passing, and that is true. 181 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: But again, a guy in Peyton who clearly passed the 182 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: eye test but didn't have the team's success early on 183 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 2: in his career. If you look at years one through 184 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: five of Peyton and years one through five of Justin Herbert, 185 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: it is shocking how identical. It is Herbert forty one 186 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 2: and thirty eight win loss record, Peyton forty two and 187 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: thirty eight, both of them winless in the playoffs. Herbert 188 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: oh and two through five years, Manning oh to three. 189 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: Their team scored twenty four points per game. They threw 190 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: basically the same number of touchdown passes one thirty seven 191 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: to one thirty eight through five years in their career. 192 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: And again, I understand more passing in today's football than then, 193 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: but the playoff numbers were also remarkably similar in terms 194 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: of the types of struggles, more interceptions than touchdowns, lower 195 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: passer rating, lower completion percentage in the playoffs versus the 196 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: regular season. But in year five Peyton got Doungeee. In 197 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: year five Herbert got Harbaugh and things started to change. 198 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: And in year six for Peyton, he's co MVP of 199 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: the league, He's in the AFC Championship game, he's you know, 200 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: forty two hundred yards, they're scoring twenty eight points per game. 201 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: It was the arrival of the Peyton Manning that became 202 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: one of the greatest to ever throw a football. 203 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 5: And I will be holding Justin Herbert to that standard. 204 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: This is the last stand because I fully acknowledge at 205 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: some point the results need to be there in terms 206 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 2: of teams success. But I am as convinced today as 207 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: I was after his rookie year when he set the 208 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: NFL record for touchdown passes as a rookie with thirty one. 209 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 2: This is a Hall of Fame level talent. And I thought, 210 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: what Jim Harbaugh said over the weekend is how I 211 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: felt about the entire Chargers organization ever since they lucked 212 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: into Miami drafting Tuoa over him. 213 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 5: The rest of you got to catch up to that guy. 214 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 5: That's from the heart. 215 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: This is the truth. 216 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 6: Justin Herbert's biggest weakness is all of those that he's 217 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 6: counting on on offense, coaches, offensive line, playmakers, receivers, running. 218 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: Backs to get up to his level. 219 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 6: You know. That's that's that's I wake up every day 220 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 6: to try to get to his level. So if you 221 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 6: put us as the as the number one duel, I 222 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 6: mean it's ninety justin ten ten. 223 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: Me amen Amen, Peyton Manning was the system. He went 224 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: to four Super Bowls with four different head coaches. That 225 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 2: was what it was. He got to a place where 226 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 2: he had such dominance and such control of the game 227 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: that wherever he went, he was the system. I think 228 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert can do that and is on his way 229 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: to doing that. And if the rest of the Chargers, 230 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: which I expect them to under Harbaugh, catch up to 231 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: him just a bit, don't put the shackles on him. 232 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: Let him throw, work off your run game, work off 233 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: your defense, and let that guy be one of the 234 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: best throwers of the football that I've ever seen. I 235 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: think he's absolutely in the running for the MVP, and 236 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: I think they're absolutely in the running to win playoff 237 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: games this year, even being in the division with the 238 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. I expect Justin Herbert to stay on 239 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: the Peyton Manning track by the end of this football season. 240 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: AJ Persinsk, you going to join us coming up in 241 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: about ten minutes. Luka, Doncic is looking good. There is 242 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: no doubt about it. We saw the pictures yesterday on 243 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: the show. But my god, some of you are overreacting 244 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: and gulageous. Oh little nuts, that's next. I'm a hurt business. 245 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,359 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 246 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: and noone eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 247 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 248 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 7: Hey We're Cavino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day 249 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 7: five to seven pm Eastern. 250 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. 251 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 7: We never have enough time to get to everything we 252 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 7: want to get. 253 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 4: To, and that's why we have a brand new podcast 254 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 4: called over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun 255 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 4: in our two hour show. We never get to everything, honestly, 256 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 4: because this guy is over promising things we never have 257 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 4: time for. 258 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you blubber lit lame and me. 259 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 7: Well, you know what it's called over promise. You should 260 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 7: be good at it because you've been over promising women 261 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 7: for years. 262 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 4: Well, it's a Cavino and Rich after show, and we 263 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 4: want you to be a part of it. We're gonna 264 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 4: be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk 265 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: life and relationships. 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Listen over promised with 275 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: Cavino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or 276 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: wherever you get your podcasts. 277 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: Back in on the Herd, Danny parkins in for Colin Baseball. 278 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: My Cubs gotta figure it out, gotta separate a little 279 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: bit from those pesky Milwaukee Brewers who are more than pesky, 280 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: and joining us now on the Herd. Old buddy of mine, 281 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: oh five World Series champion, one of eleven catchers with 282 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: over two thousand hits, terrific Fox MLB analyst aj Perzinski 283 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: with us on the Herd. Ajis always man. Thank you 284 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: very much for the time. 285 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 8: Moved up, Danny, moved up from the days of you know, 286 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 8: back in Chicago, the little radio show. 287 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Kansas City. Now here you are doing 288 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: national stuff. Good for you. 289 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm trying to be like you. I'm trying. 290 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: I'm trying. 291 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, but nobody wants that. Nobody wants that. Nobody wants that. 292 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. I used to talk to your guy, Eric Kratz, 293 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 2: you know, in Kansas City because he was the only 294 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: guy who talked to me. And now here you and 295 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: I are doing this. It's ridiculous trade deadline is right 296 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: around the corner, and you know, it feels like almost 297 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 2: all of the moves come right at the deadline nowadays 298 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: with the expanded playoffs. But who, in your mind is 299 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 2: like the most needed. Like if you said this team 300 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 2: more than anyone else needs to make a move, who 301 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: would it be. 302 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 8: I have to look at the Cubs and I have 303 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 8: to look at the Astros that the two teams. 304 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 3: Your Cubs need to do something because no one thought. 305 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 8: The Brewers would be here and here they are, game up, 306 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 8: one of the best pitching staffs in all of baseball, 307 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 8: and the Cubs as good as they played, as well 308 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 8: as they played in place right now, nobody saw that coming. 309 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 8: They need a starting pitcher problem, maybe a back end reliever. 310 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 3: I don't know. 311 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 8: The problem is every team we talk about needs the 312 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 8: same thing, a starter, a back in reliever, and a 313 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 8: power hitter. Guess what, not every team can get those things. 314 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 8: So I don't know what the Cubs can do. They 315 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 8: definitely need a starter because if Emanagua's right, and Tiane's 316 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 8: been okay, Forton's been okay, some of their guys have 317 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 8: been okay. They haven't been great, but they definitely need 318 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 8: a starting pitcher. 319 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 3: Who that is. I have no idea. 320 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 8: And then on the other end, the Astros, they they 321 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 8: had a huge lead, it's faltering. They need health, but 322 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 8: they need another starter behind Hunter Brown and from Ravaldez. 323 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: They need a bat. Who's that bat going to be? 324 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 3: I don't know. 325 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 8: Everyone says Gino Suarez, but every team wants Gino Suarez. 326 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 3: Every team wants a starter, every team wants a reliever. 327 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 3: The question is when will these moves start happening? 328 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 8: Because the quicker you get these, especially relievers in bats, 329 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 8: they might only be one game extra, two games extra, 330 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 8: but that can be the difference in the division. 331 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: So you mentioned it briefly. They lost their general manager, 332 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: they've turned over star power, They've had the trade guys 333 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 2: away for money issues. They lose Craig Counsel to the Cubs. 334 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 2: How are the Brewers still this good? I legitimately do 335 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 2: not understand it. Well. 336 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 3: Pat Murphy, Matt Arnold start with the start at the top. Right. 337 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 3: Pat Murphy learned from the well coach Trek Council, and 338 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 3: now we learn how to manage from right. 339 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 8: Mattur and the Brewers are unbelievable at finding pitchers, developing 340 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 8: pitchers and getting. 341 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: Guys off the trash sheep. 342 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 8: If that's what you're gonna call it, a waivers, I mean, 343 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 8: but then you throw in Miserowski, Brandon Woodriff has comeback, 344 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 8: Freddy Peralta has been a stud for them for many years. 345 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 8: But you lose Corton Burns, you lose Devin Williams, you 346 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 8: lose guy after guy after guy william Domis this offseason. 347 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 8: They just keep plugging away. They make great trades. Seems 348 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 8: like every trade they make is a win for them 349 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 8: one way or another. They and listen, look at a Rebay, 350 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 8: Amner Rebay. They're bothpend their eighth dinning guy. If you 351 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 8: haven't seen this guy pitch one hundred mile an hour sinker, 352 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 8: ninety something mile an hour slider, Reese Hosk. We're showing right. 353 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 8: There has been a great fine for them this year. 354 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 8: They just find guys, plug them in. 355 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 3: They know their role. And Pat Murphy's one of the 356 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 3: best managers in baseball. 357 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 2: So if you look at the standings, the Tigers have 358 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: a nine game lead. The next biggest division lead is 359 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: five and a half, and in the NL the East 360 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 2: is one and a half, the Central is one and 361 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 2: the West is only a four game lead, despite you know, 362 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: the perceived dominance of the Dodgers. Is there a best 363 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: team in baseball? 364 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 8: I'm still gonna say the Dodgers because if they get healthy, 365 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 8: they got glass Now back, and they get Snell's coming, 366 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 8: they get some of their relievers back. It one through 367 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 8: twenty six, actually one through like fifty. The Dodgers are 368 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 8: the best team right because they've used so many guys 369 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 8: this year, they have the financial might to go out 370 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 8: and get whoever they wanted. The trade deadline, they'll trade 371 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 8: prospects for players. So it's still the Dodgers to me. 372 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 8: But everyone thought they were going to go one hundred 373 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 8: and sixty two and oh, baseball's hard. A lot of 374 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 8: injuries and they signed a lot of guys that have 375 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 8: injury concerns when they sign them and they just kind 376 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 8: of play it up. But we have enough depth to 377 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 8: overcome it. Well, they haven't, and they're Yes. Do I 378 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 8: think they're gonna win the Division? 379 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: Yes? 380 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: Do I think they're the favorites to win the World Series? 381 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 2: Yes? 382 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 8: The National League is really hard, though. Phillies, Mets, Cubs, Brewers, 383 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 8: Padres who are not afraid of the Dodgers, whoever gets 384 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 8: in in the National League is. 385 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 3: Gonna have one heck of a run to get to 386 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 3: the World Series. 387 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 2: Talking to some Baseball ahead of the deadline with Aj Prazinski, 388 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 2: the team the Dodgers beating the World Series last year, 389 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: the Yankees Aaron Judges hurt, and it does seem like 390 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 2: it might be they not a huge deal, but like 391 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: a medium sized deal here. What do you expect from 392 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: the Yankees? Down the stretches, they try to overcome this 393 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: il stan for Judge. 394 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 8: A lot of this, A lot of us hold it 395 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 8: together until we get them back. Because we had Will 396 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 8: Carroll on our show yesterday and he said, this could 397 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 8: be a month. And you think about a month, that 398 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 8: puts us almost to September. Right, that's a long absence 399 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 8: for a guy that they rely on heavily. Listen, you 400 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 8: can make whatever argument you want about the Ali say 401 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 8: cal Rawley right now is my MVP, especially with Judge out. 402 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 8: But the Yankees without Aaron Judge are a different team. 403 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 8: He changes the lineup, he changes the confidence, he changes 404 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 8: everything on that team. So if he misses longer, he said, 405 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 8: I'll be back in ten days, I'll have to see 406 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 8: it to believe it. But if they don't get Judge back, 407 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 8: they got to figure it out. Stanton's got to perform 408 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 8: Fellinger goldstrand have to go back. Anthony Volpi, who a 409 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 8: lot of Yankee fans are on, has to figure it out. 410 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 8: There's a lot of question marks, especially with no Garrett 411 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 8: Cole now no Aaron Judge. There's a lot of questions 412 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 8: on this Yankee team. And the Blue Jays aren't going away. 413 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 8: They're hot as anybody right now and they have a 414 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 8: five and a half game lead after the Yankees pretty 415 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 8: much dominated the division for a long time. 416 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: Can you put in perspective, since you mentioned his name, 417 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 2: the amazement for a catcher to be doing what Cal 418 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: Rowley is doing at the dish? 419 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 3: No, I can't what he's got forty one homers. We're 420 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 3: not even into August. He's a switch hitter. 421 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: For me. 422 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 8: People ask me all the time, who would you start 423 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 8: a team with, I mean schemes, probably is one, Bobby Witz, 424 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 8: probably two, and then I'll put this guy in the 425 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 8: top three because of what he does behind the plate, 426 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 8: what he does about He won the Platinum Glove last year, 427 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 8: which means he's the best defensive player in the American League. 428 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 8: So he won that and now he's leading the league 429 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 8: in home runs. Now will he keep it up and 430 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 8: hits sixty or seventy? I don't know, because he's gonna 431 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 8: wear down. This dude plays every day, handles a great 432 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 8: pitching staff, and he hits homers. What else do you 433 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 8: want out of a player from a catcher, best catcher 434 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 8: in the league, best defensive player in the league, plays 435 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 8: every day, switch hits. 436 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and by the way, he's got forty one homers. 437 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: But you still you think he will wear down? You 438 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 2: had two homers over the week. 439 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 8: Every catcher does. Nobody has. No catcher can play. I 440 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 8: mean he played what one hundred and forty games last year, 441 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 8: something ridiculous. I mean he's on pace to do it 442 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 8: again this year. When he didn't catch he dhs. I mean, 443 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 8: Dan Wilson, you're a catcher, Give him a day off. 444 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 8: Everyone to Kim a day right, like every two weeks. 445 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 8: Give this guy down. This guy's unbelievable man. He wants 446 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 8: to play. If you ever talked to Calral, he's a 447 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 8: great guy. Only one thing. I'm a Gator fan. He 448 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 8: went to Florida State. That's the only knock I can 449 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 8: put on this guy. 450 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 5: Nobody's perfect. You and I get along. 451 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: You're a white soxe, I'm a Cub No you know, 452 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: I know, I guess I didn't play for the Cubs 453 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: and clubs fan, but nobody's perfect. So the baseball I 454 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: think gets a bad rap sometimes for not promoting stars 455 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 2: doing things to build the game. Like I think baseball's 456 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 2: great at events like the All Star Game. They do 457 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: an amazing job. The Field of Dreams Game, I think 458 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: was an incredible success. Games at a Negro league stadium. 459 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: What do you make of eighty thousand plus tickets in 460 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: the Speedway Classic in terms of a venue and spectacle 461 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: for Major League Baseball? I know this. 462 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 8: The Fox people that I work with, Pete Macheska, Mattangele, 463 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 8: all the people behind the scenes, they're excited because they 464 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 8: have a chance to do something that nobody's ever done, 465 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 8: which is showcase. 466 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 3: Eighty five thousand. 467 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 8: They're hoping maybe to get to one hundred thousand people, 468 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 8: and they have drones and they have all kinds of 469 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 8: special cameras they're gonna run. It's gonna be like no 470 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 8: game we've ever seen before. And I was fortunate to 471 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 8: play in a couple of these. I got to go 472 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 8: to Fort Bragg and play in a game in Fort 473 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 8: Brag in front of the troops, and do a couple 474 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 8: other things. You're right, major League Baseball does a lot 475 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 8: of these big games better than anything. I was at 476 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 8: Field of Dreams. The Tim Anderson home run to walk 477 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 8: it off one of the best events I've ever been to. 478 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 8: This is going to be incredible. The field's going to 479 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 8: be perfect, and I can't wait to see the shots. 480 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 8: To think of us the biggest crowd of all time 481 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 8: to watch a baseball game, eighty five thousand plus people. 482 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 8: If you're a Braves or Red fan, this is something 483 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 8: you cannot miss. And if you're a TV baseball fan, 484 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 8: tune in because what Fox is about to do is 485 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 8: going to be unbelievable. 486 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they deserve a lot of credit 487 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: for figuring out new ways to present the game, and 488 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 2: I think baseball genuinely has done a really good job 489 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 2: of that over the last five plus years. We got 490 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 2: really tough news in the baseball world yesterday with the 491 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: passing of Ryan Sandberg, a Hall of Fame player, and 492 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: it's a cliche, but also a Hall of Fame person, 493 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: your interactions or impression of his impact on the baseball world. 494 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 8: Well, I've only met him a couple of times. Obviously, 495 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 8: being a white so Cubs of White Sox guys, they 496 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 8: don't intermingle a whole lot. We don't get together whole lot. 497 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 8: But I have met Rhino a few times, and he 498 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 8: was always a class act, unbelievable guy. Everything I heard 499 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 8: about him from Cubs fans and people that were in 500 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 8: the baseball world just said what a great human being 501 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 8: he was. I mean, we all thought he beat this. 502 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 8: Remember it wasn't that long ago where he's like, I'm 503 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 8: cancer free, guys, let's celebrate, and then it came back quickly, 504 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 8: so terrible news. We've had a rough go in Chicago 505 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 8: with him and Bobby Jenks the last couple of weeks. 506 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 8: One of the big things about Rhino is, Listen, I 507 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 8: grew up in Florida. We didn't have a team, so 508 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 8: we had TVs for the Braves. We had WGN for 509 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 8: the Cubs, so he was on every day and they 510 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 8: played only day games back then. 511 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 3: So I'd come home from school gets what was on 512 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 3: the Cubs. 513 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 8: And Ryan Stamberg and Ron Say and that whole group 514 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 8: of guys. So I grew up watching the Cubs, and 515 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 8: I root for the Cubs. No, but I watched a 516 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 8: ton of Cub games, so I knew Ryan Stamberg. I 517 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 8: got to follow his career and the passing, and it 518 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 8: was just terrible news for baseball. Anytime you lose a 519 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 8: franchise icon like this, it's bad for the game. But 520 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 8: hopefully he's in a better place and we can move 521 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 8: on and wish prayers for his family and friends. 522 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 3: You know, Dan, You're not gonna be laeve this, but 523 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 3: prayers for Cup fans because this is a sad day. 524 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 2: That's big of you. That's big of you. And hey, yeah, 525 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: I am sorry for your loss. I know you and 526 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: Bobby Jangs had a special relationship as well, so I'm 527 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: sorry about his passing at a way too young age 528 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: as well. 529 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 8: Man, Well, thank you, Danny, I appreciate it. I got 530 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 8: I brought this for you today. It's my home run 531 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 8: I hit Ryan Dempster when I was with the White Sox, 532 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 8: so it's not I it is though. It's fun because 533 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 8: you're a Cub fan. I'm a White Sox fan, so 534 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 8: you know, we have to have a little back. 535 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 2: And forth, no doubt, no doubt. I mean, it's just 536 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: you would have been a great Cub. I hated you 537 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: because you're you know, you. 538 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 3: Know, do you know how close I was to being 539 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: a Cub? 540 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: How close? 541 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 8: Like So in two thousand and three, when I got 542 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 8: traded to the Giants, I actually got a call from 543 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 8: LaTroy Hawkins the night before and said, hey, we're trading 544 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 8: for you. 545 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 3: He had just gone to the Cubs. He said, hey, 546 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 3: we're training for you tomorrow. Be ready. Dusty's already called me. 547 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 3: It's done. And then I get to call the next 548 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 3: day and I'm going to the Giants. I'm like, what happened. 549 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 8: They're like, they threw in Francisco Leriano at the last minute, 550 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 8: and I got the deal. I was like, damn it. Instead, 551 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 8: they wouldn't got Michael Barrett. They got they traded for 552 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 8: Michael Barrett. Then we had to fight, So, I mean, 553 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 8: you know it all worked out. 554 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 2: Wow. What a sliding doors moment in history though. 555 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, butterfly effect, right, Yeah. 556 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you never punched Michael Barrett the whole thing, the 557 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: whole fight, man, that's uh. You would have. You would 558 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: have been a good Cup. You would have been a 559 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: good cup. 560 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 3: Ohay, listen, I love Chicago. 561 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 8: I know in today games. Then you can go to 562 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 8: dinner all that stuff. I would have loved it, but 563 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 8: not so much anymore. 564 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: Well, check out a show foul Territory. You do great 565 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: work here at Fox. AJ. Thanks for always making time, man, 566 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 2: I appreciate you. 567 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, real quick, before you gotta go. The Bear's going 568 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 3: to be any good this year. 569 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: If they're not, I'm gonna start believing in curses. Man. 570 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: They got the so that they have to be they 571 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: We've waited our entire life for some sort of semblance 572 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: of respectability for quarterback in Chicago. All right, man, thank 573 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: you very much. Thanks Danny, I'll talk to you soon. 574 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: That's AJ Persinski, terrific Fox MLB analyst. All right again, 575 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: Luka Dodgic a professional athlete exercising in the off season 576 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: who defunk it the appropriate reaction to those pictures. Next, 577 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: I'm the Hurd. Be sure to catch live editions of 578 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: The Herd weekdays and neon Eastern not a Empacific. Welcome 579 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: back to the Herd. I'm Danny Parkins in for Colin 580 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: rank my top ten NFL teams heading into the season 581 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: coming up in just over twenty minutes. Then Nick Wright 582 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: will join the show from First Things First. Very much 583 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: looking forward to doing that and looking forward to joining 584 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: First Things First as they expand to three hours coming 585 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: up this football season. But yesterday, I think it showed 586 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: the power of the Lakers and the power of late 587 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: July that a magazine cover could come out that is 588 00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 2: straight pr and everyone would go insane. Luka Doncic was 589 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: on the cover of Men's Health, and Luka Doncic looks shredded. 590 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: He looks like skinny Luca and you put those pictures up. 591 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: And we've seen him a little bit this offseason. We 592 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 2: saw him with the Yankees, We've seen him out and 593 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: about a little bit. He's like, Oh, Luka Doncic figured 594 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 2: out what a barbell was, He learned about intermittent fasting. 595 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: He apparently is drinking less and smoking less hookah, and 596 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: you know, being a professional athlete, and all of a sudden, it's, oh, 597 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,959 Speaker 2: my god, professional athlete works out in the off season. 598 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: And I guess I didn't fully realize that in a 599 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: year where Luca was traded and arguably the craziest trade 600 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: in NBA history, when he had a significant calf strain 601 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 2: that is often a precursor if you do not heal 602 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: it to blowing out your achilles see Tyrese Halliburton. And 603 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: he took his time coming back from that and it 604 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: had an impact on his conditioning, appearance, all of those things. 605 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: I feel like people forgot who Luka Doncic was. Like, 606 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 2: Luca is awesome, and I love Chris Broussard and I 607 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: can't wait to chop it up with him more on 608 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: the regular on first things first, But when we had 609 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 2: him on Heard yesterday, you would have thought that Luka 610 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: Doncic was reborn based on these pictures. 611 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 9: When I saw this article, saw how Luca looked, read 612 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 9: it about you know how he's changed and this summers 613 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 9: different for him. I gave a big shout out to 614 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 9: Lebron James like this, this is a testament to Lebron 615 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 9: James's example and the impact it had on Luka Doncics. 616 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 9: I think he played with Lebron and saw wow, as 617 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 9: much physical ability as Lebron has, as much natural ability, 618 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 9: as much size and strength and athleticism as Lebron has. Naturally, 619 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 9: he goes above and beyond to become the player he is. 620 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: Even though Luca didn't say that in the article, and 621 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: maybe this is a little media insight, but getting a 622 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: magazine cover. 623 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 5: It's not that difficult for a list. 624 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 2: Superstar athletes and celebrities like this was a puff piece. 625 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 2: This was the superstar athlete equivalent of, like you ever 626 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: break up with someone and then hit the weights because 627 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: you want to have that revenge. Look be you know 628 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,719 Speaker 2: New Year knew me. Luca got dissed by the Mavericks. 629 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 2: They leaked a bunch of stuff to the media about 630 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 2: his professionalism, and he's putting this out there to show 631 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: them what they missed. This is the superstar athlete equivalent 632 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 2: of getting dumped working out and then posting a shirtless 633 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: pick with pecks and biceps on Instagram, something I would 634 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: know nothing about, not because I've never been dumped, but 635 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: because I have no biceps or pecks. But the poise, this, 636 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: the point is people forget that Luka Doncic, I mean, 637 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: people act like the guy doesn't play basketball. Before last 638 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 2: year seventy games played, sixty six games played, sixty five 639 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 2: games played, sixty six games, sixty one seventy two plus 640 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: his international schedule, Luka Doncic. 641 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 5: Plays basketball a lot really Oh, now. 642 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 2: That Luka Doncic is intermittent fasting and doing bicep curls, 643 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna bet him for MVP. Luca was already a 644 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 2: really safe favorite type of bet for MVP. We have 645 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: saw him two seasons ago carry the Dallas Mavericks to 646 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: the NBA Finals. We have seen him average thirty four 647 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 2: nine to ten in a season two years ago. Like 648 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 2: list of best players in the NBA, whatever your order is, Jokic, SGA, 649 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 2: Jannis Tatum, Luca, I know Lebron was six and MVP voting. 650 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: I know Donovan Mitchell was first team All NBA, but 651 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 2: Luca didn't play in enough games to qualify. He was 652 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 2: traded in the middle of the season. He had the 653 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: cap injury. It was weird year, but I think most 654 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 2: people would agree that Luka Doncic is in the conversation 655 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: for being a top five player in the world. So 656 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 2: good for the professional athlete working out in the offseason. 657 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 2: Maybe he'll start a little faster, but he's not gonna 658 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: get a better at defense, and I don't think it's 659 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 2: possible for him to get much better at basketball than 660 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 2: averaging thirty three nine to ten. So I'm just a 661 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 2: little confused as to what we're talking about here. I 662 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: it's pr it's spin, it's image control, it's damage control. 663 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be anything more than that. And 664 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: I am just I expect even if Luka Doncic, I 665 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: would have seen him at the Hookah Bar, if that 666 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 2: would have been the thing, if he would have been 667 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 2: on the cover of instead of Men's Health, he would 668 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 2: have been on the cover of Hookah magazine. 669 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 5: I would be like, man, Luca could win MVP. 670 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 2: Next year because he's Luka Dodgic, that the talent is 671 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 2: enough where he can win MVP. But Men's Health is 672 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 2: apparently supposed to I didn't know. I didn't know being 673 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 2: on the cover of Men's Health was supposed to change 674 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: the way that we all felt about one of the 675 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: five greatest offensive players in the sport and arguably one 676 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 2: of the five greatest all around players in the sport 677 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 2: because he's doing bicep curls and shoving all of his 678 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: meals into eight hours a day. But I'm learning things 679 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: as we go throughout this life. I wanted to change 680 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 2: gears here a little bit and talk about an honor 681 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 2: the life of Ryan Sandberg. The Hall of Famer from 682 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 2: the Chicago Cubs who passed away yesterday at sixty five 683 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 2: years old. And I knew Rhino a bit, and I'll 684 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 2: tell you my connection to him in a second. But 685 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 2: he was a larger than life figure in Chicago. He 686 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 2: was the reason why many many people in Chicago and 687 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 2: frankly around the world became Cubs fans. When he won 688 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 2: his MVP award in nineteen eighty four, the Cubs had 689 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 2: not been to the playoffs in thirty nine years, and 690 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 2: so he wins that MVP there on WGN, the superstation, 691 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 2: and people are watching Wrigley Fields come to life, and 692 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:18,959 Speaker 2: this incredibly professional ballplayer. It's a cliche, play the game 693 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 2: the right way. He was just a model of consistency, 694 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 2: and he was. He was a humble superstar. And people say, 695 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: never meet your heroes. I was a little young for 696 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 2: Ryan Sandberg to be a sports hero of mine, but 697 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 2: my older brother was significant. It was sixteen years older 698 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 2: than me, and he actually married someone whose father was 699 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 2: very close to Ryan Sandberg. And so when I was 700 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 2: the best man in my brother's wedding at fifteen years old, 701 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 2: Ryan Sandberg was at the wedding, and so I gave 702 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 2: a best man speech at the wedding, and I didn't 703 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 2: talk to Ryan Sandberg about it at the wedding. But 704 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 2: many years later when I'm doing media in Chicago and 705 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 2: Rhino would come on the show and he was a 706 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 2: Cubs ambassador, and he would do things. He would say, 707 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 2: you know, Margaret really liked your toast. Margaret was his wife, 708 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: And I'd be like, well, what about you, Rhyano, And 709 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 2: he was like, Margaret really liked your toast. Like he 710 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 2: just had this subtle ability. People who knew him better 711 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 2: said he was a prankster. He didn't really give off 712 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 2: the hilarious image too much publicly, but if you knew 713 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 2: him a little bit, he would. But the thing about 714 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 2: him was he just loved being a Cub and he 715 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 2: loved Cubs fans, and so people would come up to 716 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 2: him all the time and pay him a compliment and 717 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 2: he would always give them the time of the day, 718 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 2: ask them their name, ask them about him. And I 719 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 2: went back and yeah, so this picture we're showing now 720 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 2: on FS one. It was crazy because about this time 721 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 2: last year, Ryan Sandberg came on the radio because I 722 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 2: do this cancer event in partnership with the Cubs called 723 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 2: Cubs for a Cure, where I broadcast for twenty four 724 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 2: hours straight it's coming up in two days on Thursday 725 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 2: on the Score in Chicago, and Ryan Sandberg came in 726 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: because we knew he had been battling cancer, and he 727 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 2: very emotionally announced that just that morning he had had 728 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 2: a scan that was clear and his doctor said he 729 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 2: was cancer free, and he cried and it made national 730 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: news and we raised over a million dollars that weekend 731 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 2: with all of it going to cancer research. And we 732 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 2: took that picture that's the president of business for the Cubs, 733 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 2: Crane Kenny, with us on the field, and it was 734 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 2: just this like beautiful celebration. And then eleven months later 735 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 2: he passes away from cancer, and it was just it 736 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 2: was gut wrenching because people when they talk about him, 737 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 2: if you didn't know him, you talk about the Sandberg game. 738 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 2: Bob Costa says it was the best baseball game ever called, 739 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 2: and it was unbelievable. You know, he hits two home 740 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 2: runs and the ninth and tenth off Bruce Souiter, and 741 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 2: you know, the Cubs win twelve, eleven and extras, and 742 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 2: people talk about ten time All Star, nine time, gold Gloves, 743 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 2: silver slugg or MVP, whatever it is. When you say 744 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 2: never meet your heroes, and then he actually is to 745 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 2: so many a sports hero, and he's everything you want 746 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 2: and more, it's just rare. So I wanted to play 747 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 2: a quick bite from his Hall of Fame speech because 748 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 2: I really think it encompassed how he approached the game, 749 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,760 Speaker 2: but really how he approached life. Here's rhino. 750 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 10: I was taught you never ever disrespect your opponent, or 751 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 10: your teammates, or your organization or your manager, and never 752 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 10: ever your uniform. Make a great play, act like you've 753 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 10: done it before, Get a big hit, look for the 754 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 10: third base coach, and get ready to run the bases. 755 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 10: Hit a home run, put your head down, drop the bat, 756 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 10: run around the bases. Because the name on the front 757 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 10: is more a lot more important than the name on 758 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 10: the bag, that's respect. 759 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 2: I had an opportunity to talk to Ryan Sandberg on 760 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 2: the radio when it had been announced that he was 761 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 2: getting a statue at Wrigley Field, and what was the 762 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 2: position going to be. Was it going to be hitting 763 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 2: a home run from the Sandberg game, Was it going 764 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 2: to be him turning a double play that he was 765 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 2: famous for, and he said he thought it was going 766 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 2: to be more about defense, and it ended up just 767 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 2: being him in the ready position because he just wanted 768 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 2: to be ready to be a pro, and that encompassed 769 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 2: who he was. He crossed over, he cut through, He 770 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 2: mattered to a lot of people. Barack Obama posted a tribute. 771 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer and Cubs stalwart Ryan Sandberg wasn't just 772 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 2: a great baseball player. He was a class act who 773 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 2: never cheated the game. Everyone in Chicago, including White Socks fans, 774 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 2: will miss him deeply, and it's so true. He was 775 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 2: a humble superstar. He wanted to meet you, he wanted 776 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 2: to talk to you, and he deserved so much more 777 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 2: than sixty five years of life. Rip Rhino.