1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: And That's what you Really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to and That's what You Really miss podcast. Do 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: we have the Founder, the Pioneer, Ian Brennan. 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: One of the Holy Trinity. We have Ian back because 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: the recap is coming to an end, and we found 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 2: out Ian has some strong feelings about season six and 8 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: some missing memories and some missing memories, which a common 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 2: theme here on That's what you Really missed? And I 10 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: think I'm very excited for you all to hear what 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: he has to say about so much. We talk about 12 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: a lot, a lot, so buckle up. This is Ian Brennan. 13 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god, in a suit. 14 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: I'm dressed like an off duty birthday clown. 15 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: I beg to say that for us, this is how normally. 16 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 4: No, No, it's not. Yeah, it's off Yeah, it's not that 17 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 4: off brand. 18 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: I'm not saying the clown. 19 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 5: You said that. 20 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: I think you dress very dashing style. 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 4: I've looked better at guys. 22 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: I I exercised before coming here, so I'm good for years. 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 3: I've got some flyaways. 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 5: It's kind of blazer on. 25 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: Aren't you warm after you work out and you put 26 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: a warm blazer around like that. 27 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 3: Gotta keep gotta recovery. 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 4: You gotta work in the muscle muscle confusion, extream muscle recovery. 29 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 2: Your muscles are like suits on. Now let's clean it up, boys. 30 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: Guys, we've gone from the gym. 31 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 4: Now hit the boardroom. 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: I know this is not why we asked you to 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: be on here. I feel like you've always had such 34 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: a distinct sense of style. You have great sensibilities when 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: it comes to these things. Well, thank you, and like, 36 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: what have you always had that? 37 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: I know it's when I stopped wearing jeans. 38 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: Have been talking about this. 39 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I ever met you were wearing 40 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: jeans when we met you. 41 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 3: Sort of around nine to eleven, but there was no read. 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 5: That's right, that's right, Yeah, that's right. 43 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, I can't do it. I can't wear jeans. 44 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: So is this the last how far through are you? 45 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 4: Are you? Is it the last one? 46 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: We are at? We're in the last season. Half we 47 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: did the last season? 48 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 5: Great, Yeah, so we're in. 49 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: Then we're in the end. 50 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 5: We're in season six. 51 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: But I need to take it back because I think 52 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: we need to take it back to like season five. 53 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: I think it's important to like talk about what you 54 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: remember and what it was like, like post Cory going 55 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: into season six obviously from like the spin off of 56 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: New York going into season six with the newbies, like 57 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: how did you get there? 58 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 5: And what was that like? 59 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 4: It was terrible. 60 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: It was awful and I don't think it worked, and 61 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: it was like it was really hard. I think it 62 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: was so hard that I sort of like blocked it out. 63 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: I'm not a big person for like blocked out memories, 64 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 3: but like I just kind. 65 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 4: Of blocked that out, Like I totally blocked about it out. 66 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: It was just really really, really hard. It was like 67 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: I think we thought originally that it was I mean, look, 68 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: it's my own credit. We had to do something, and 69 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: we had to once we probably talked about this, but 70 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 3: like early on in the show, I would have preferred, 71 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: probably wrongly, to not acknowledge time at all. 72 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 4: Right, right, Simpsons, it would sort of reset, right, Yeah. 73 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: Second was sort of like you second you have Rachel 74 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: Berry be like I'm a sophomore, and then you're like, 75 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: it's prom You're like locked into the earrow of time. 76 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: Since see we had you on that all of a 77 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: sudden was it was never mentioned and then all of 78 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: a sudden, we started like very specifically referencing time in 79 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: such an odd way because it got stretched out over 80 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: like a season and a half. 81 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, graduation school, it was you. 82 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: It's like he would have just been like, you could 83 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 4: have just made it. 84 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: We just didn't have to be that that final point 85 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: on it, I thought, And then we just sort of did, 86 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: and it made sense. 87 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: You don't want you. 88 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: We didn't want to watch you all turn thirty, although 89 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 3: but also who cares, you know, like it wouldn't I 90 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: don't think it would have mattered, but it sort of. 91 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 4: Like locked us into that. 92 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 3: So then Corey Diyes, the whole show artistically that we 93 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: were setting up was in which he would sort of 94 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: come in and become mister Shoe. 95 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 4: That was sort of like, well, okay. 96 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: And then it was we Then then it was sort 97 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: of like, all right, we have to sort of like 98 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: we don't want to lose these characters who are now 99 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: like aging out of the high school, bring in a 100 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: new cast. And it was just like that's just tough. 101 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: It's just yeah, it's a show about this. I think 102 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: this show is always going to be a show about 103 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 3: a high school. 104 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 105 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 4: Second, it's not about a high school. 106 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: It just gets weird, right, Oh, it's a little bit 107 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: like when did he cut her hair? 108 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 5: Right that they're like, oh my god, why do we 109 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 5: ever cot her hair? 110 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 4: Like, Oh, I guess it is. 111 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: That show's just about like a teenage girl with like blonde, 112 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: curly hair. The second you're like messed with the DNA 113 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: that suddenly it's like, well now she's short curly hair. 114 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 4: People are like, what. 115 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 5: Show I'm not watching anymore? 116 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: So, which is the show didn't work at all? People 117 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 3: still like loved our show. It would just ave us 118 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: harder to I I had trouble with wrapping my head 119 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 3: around it. 120 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you think that like at the end, did 121 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: you have an endgame for Finn in the show? Like 122 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: did you think it would just kind of go on 123 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: in this way where like Corey would just pop into 124 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: the mister Shoes, you know shoes, and then like it 125 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: would live on that way and then when Corey died, 126 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: like that whole plan went down the pooper or was it? 127 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 5: Like, yeah, was it? 128 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 4: I forget? 129 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 3: I'm sure I'm sure Ryan had like a last see. 130 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: I think I would have been like, I forget. I 131 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: don't know what it is, but I seem to remember 132 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: that he had some idea for like this is where 133 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 3: that's how we stick the landing right by and large, Yeah, 134 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 3: and you could have kept it in the school, but 135 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 3: like still then then folded in new people. You know, 136 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: we sort of tried to do that, and it was 137 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 3: not for lack of like like everyone was great. 138 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 5: Who we brought oh yeah yeah. 139 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 4: Has gone on to do great things. 140 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 3: Like it was just you're like, oh, the car can't 141 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: get out of like second year, I felt yeah, s 142 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 3: artistically and then we had to sort of like I 143 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: remember always being like we're really belaboring this, like what's 144 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: going on it? 145 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 4: Yah know, what's this? 146 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 3: Like this back and forth between New York and Ohio. Yes, 147 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: like oh it's just don't really shoe leathery and you're 148 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: just like, oh, this is like it just became hard. 149 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: The first two seasons of the show were like just 150 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: like flew off the page, which is key, and then 151 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: it just became harder after that, and then I guess yeah, 152 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: like like yeah five was is that yeah? 153 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, just hard. 154 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, Cause you also like and we talked about 155 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 6: this a lot, where like our emotional state going into 156 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 6: this thing was also obviously just wasn't us on camera. 157 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: It affected every the hundreds of people that showed up 158 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: to work every single day. And then you guys, before 159 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: any of us ever showed up, had to get together 160 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: to somehow like do some work and make this thing happen. 161 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 3: Wanted to be I mean partially part of me would 162 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: want to be. Like it's like when a when a 163 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: member of a band dies and the band going, it's 164 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: almost always you want to be like, no, you kind 165 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: of want to do the led Zeppelin thing. Yeah, it's 166 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: just't but we kind of couldn't. It was like and 167 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: it was like but it was so tragic and so 168 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: you're just like, ah, it was like going to a 169 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: wake every day, and then it was just like pushing 170 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: like a h a dead mule up a hill, just 171 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: like this is just hard, hard, hard, And then everybody 172 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: sort of you know, grief is so weird that I 173 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: think that like just everybody processes differently. Like I put 174 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 3: on like a very helpful cone of like denial and 175 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: be like I'm going to compartmentalize and I'll grieve this 176 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: ten years from now, right slow, you know, just be. 177 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 4: Like nope, not happening, yeh. 178 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: Like it's just and everybody's just different in that way. 179 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 4: So it was just it was weird in that sense. 180 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: That all that said, I think we did probably a 181 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: pretty good job of like making it a watchable show 182 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: and it was interesting a new cast whatever it was like, 183 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 3: there was like to be had. There's probably things. I 184 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: mean again, because I don't remember almost any of it, 185 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: there are whole like characters that will be like. 186 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 5: Who's that now, don't worry, we didn't watched Yeah. 187 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's just a function of 188 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 3: the show being like suddenly, like the DNA just like 189 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 3: totally changes. That said, there's probably like there's probably really funny, 190 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: good quality stuff in there. 191 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 4: It was just it's just a different show. 192 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 193 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: No, it was really good, honestly, Like rewatching it, there 194 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: were just so many moments where we were like, I 195 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: think we have to rewatch, especially the early season five Beatles, 196 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: Katie Gaga, end of Twerk, puppet Master, like all those 197 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: really weird ones. We had to be like, hey, this 198 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: is what we were all going through. Let's give everybody 199 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: an effing break, like because it was so hard and 200 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: there were really really great moments. 201 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 5: Especially towards this end of that. 202 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: The second part of the fifth season when we did 203 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: like City of Angels, Beautiful one hundred, like they were 204 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: all really great. 205 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 5: It just was different. 206 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: And then going to New York, Like, do you remember 207 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: being in the room or like talking with Ryan and 208 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: Brad about like making the switch to the I call 209 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: it like the New York spin off of just being 210 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: in solely in New York for the second half of 211 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: season five. 212 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 213 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I remember sort of feeling like every time 214 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: like the move was like this is high school show. 215 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: It was totally different, and you're thinking about different things, 216 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: and it's like, in a way, it's too adult. 217 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 4: It's my critique of the show. 218 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: Early on, we should have kept the show less adult, 219 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 3: like nobody should have boned down until like, way, make 220 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: that the thing that we all are won, you know, 221 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: like make it like. 222 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 4: They boned down. Can you believe it? 223 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Instead, it sort of became like then once we 224 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: got into there, it was just sort of like like 225 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: sort of college sex romp. 226 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 4: It was like, well, that's just weird. 227 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 3: And it just is it suddenly like doesn't quite fit 228 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: the format, which is like Glee Club, which is by 229 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 3: virtue of what it is like wants to be a 230 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: little bit underdeveloped and like innocent in a way funny 231 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: about it. Yeah, silly and sort of like childish. It 232 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: is so, but once we were there, it was it 233 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 3: was fine. There was like there were now also in 234 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 3: this case, I was directing. 235 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 4: More and so when I directed out of the writer's room. 236 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: So season five is probably the one that I feel 237 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: least attached to writing wise, because some for the first time, 238 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: some of the episodes I didn't I didn't have a 239 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: word in weird. So suddenly then you'd be watching a 240 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: cut of something you'd be like, I don't know what, 241 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 3: I don't know where they came up with that. But 242 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: that's just my virtue of feeling so connected with the show. 243 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 3: Early on, it wasn't that it was it was just like, 244 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 3: oh yeah, this thing was Yeah, it was like quite 245 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: quite different. What were Tina and Already doing? 246 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 5: So Tina and Already, well we have. 247 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: A model the time you you were. 248 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 4: Just like you were in this like swinging London. I 249 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 4: remember that. 250 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 5: I loved it. Yeah, Tina and Already were vying for. 251 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: Orion and in front of me and Rachel was and 252 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: then we were also Already was kind of left out 253 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: of this trio of Sam Blaine and Tina where we 254 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: did like jump and jump in and the school like locking. 255 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: And called trio and it's about everyone graduating, but there's 256 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 2: a fourth one graduating was me. So the whole episode 257 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: which is like. 258 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 5: Hey, you guys, funny but it was great. 259 00:12:54,040 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then got into New York. Yeah, Tina went 260 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: to Brown. 261 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 6: And then. 262 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 5: Recur or recurring directer Jenna went to a recur Right, 263 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 5: how how did season vie? 264 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: We were it was New York, so it was like, 265 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: h Rachel goes to New York, she gets the role 266 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: and funny girl. They open it, It gets great reviews. 267 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: Then the guy comes for the reality show, and then 268 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: we have Chris's episode in between there with the old 269 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: Folks home, and then it ends with entitled Rachel Berry 270 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: Product Project where she's yeah, going back. 271 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: Kurt Blaine, Rachel, Sam and Sam are all in New 272 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: York and make a promise in Mercedes like Sam got 273 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: his modeling gig. They're like, we're going to meet back 274 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: here in six months. Everything's changing because Sam's like, I'm 275 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: going back to McKinley, and that's when we see like 276 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: McKinley again. I don't know He's like, I just wanted 277 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: to get on the side of a bus and I 278 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: did that, So I'm going to go back home now 279 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: because I miss my people. 280 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: He goes to me the football coacht and then he's 281 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: like looking through the. 282 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: Glee club door window and it's now a computer lab. 283 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 5: I know this sounds crazy, it actually was great. 284 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: And then they did POMPEII and Rachel broke the fourth 285 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: wall on the very last scene. Do you remember she 286 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: looks straight down the barrel of a camera, oh, which. 287 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: I don't think I've talked about on here. After we 288 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: watched that, I did message Brad because he directed it, 289 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: and I was sort of like, what what was that welcome? 290 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: He was like, well, I don't really remember, but it's 291 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: one of two things. He was like, we were always 292 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: desperately trying to sort of reinvent the wheel because we've 293 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: done so many musical numbers, like how can we do 294 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: something different? And he's like, so that might have been it, 295 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: but it was He's like, that's probably what I used 296 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: to justify number two, which was we probably just tried 297 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: it and I liked it, and so we just kept it. 298 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean the fans really took to 299 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: it though, because if they felt like it was like 300 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: Leah breaking in the fourth Wall as Rachel kind of 301 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: being like because she looks up to the sky and 302 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: then she looks at the camera and then she kind 303 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: of walks off with a smile, and so there was 304 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: this moment of like I'm okay. We're like I'm okay, 305 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: I get that. 306 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, it works. 307 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: And the fans really really enjoyed that. And I thought 308 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: it worked. I totally thought it worked. It was just 309 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: so jarring when I watched it first, I was like. 310 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 4: I didn't remember much of that. 311 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: We didn't well, we were scared going into it because 312 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: we you know, in our heads it's like one, two 313 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: and three were like really solid or like four. But 314 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: the fans were like, oh no, it's good, and we 315 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: watch it and it's great. And then five remember even 316 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: less as Ian also, and then six we were watching 317 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: for the first time. Really yeah, fully for the first time. 318 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: But five there's a lot of a lot of really 319 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: great moments, and you do the challenge that we talked 320 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: about where I think you sort of tried at season 321 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: five and then really accomplish it season six, which was 322 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: bringing in new people. And in season five, like you said, 323 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: so many great actors, but it felt like at first 324 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: it was everyone was sort of playing an archetype that 325 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: already existed on the show. You had like the new Finn, 326 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: you had the new Quinn, you had the new Santana, 327 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: like all these people sort of coming in which didn't 328 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: last that long, and then they sort of became themselves 329 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,479 Speaker 2: like other characters. 330 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 331 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but going into season six, the fans were like, 332 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: oh no, these new kids, these characters are amazing, and 333 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: so far it's true. It's sort of what you said 334 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: in the beginning about what the show is, where it's 335 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 2: like it's a glee club and it's like it's janky, 336 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: it doesn't really work. The characters are all over the place, 337 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: come from different places, and that's what really happened with 338 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: the season six kids, and I think so far why 339 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: it's really enjoyable and successful in that way. 340 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 4: So how long are you? How far through six are you? 341 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: Half way? 342 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: Should we start talking about season six now? 343 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 5: Yeah? 344 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think it's actually when the show gets 345 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: spectacular again. I loved it was so much fun and 346 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 3: I think partly like I rank them one, two, six, three, four. 347 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: Five, Oh my god, I loved it because we didn't 348 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: give out more. Yeah. 349 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: Yes, it feels like that a little bit. 350 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: Like when we were watching. I think throughout we were 351 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 3: just so aware. It seems comical now, like we were 352 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 3: so aware of like rating, So when you're like a 353 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: network show, you're like the rating. 354 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: Well, we got moved to Fridays and nobody was watching it. 355 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: Did that have an impact? Like did you know first 356 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: of all that it was going to be thirteen episodes 357 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: and that we're going to be on Fridays. 358 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 3: We I don't think we knew the day, but we 359 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: were sort of like, ugh, this is probably the end. 360 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 4: So and I think it was just they again, this 361 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 4: is the thing with network television. 362 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 3: They were probably like, we got to get this turkey 363 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: off the air to put on one of our new 364 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: development things, and then they would do that. I'm sure 365 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: the thing that replaced our show at lower ratings than us, 366 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 3: because it wasn't a show that was getting lower ratings. 367 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 3: It was like network television was getting lower ratings. 368 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 5: That's why I could. 369 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 3: Go back into a time machine, yes and back and 370 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: like knock on the door there and be like, hey, hey, 371 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 3: don't blame us for like the ratings going down, the 372 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: rates going down, is this shift in the landscape, Yeah, 373 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: this is happening everywhere, And then it would be like 374 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: what used to be. 375 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 4: You know, we would be. 376 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 3: Like, oh, we got a one we scored. 377 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 4: Now that would be like people were like whoa. 378 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: Right, So I thought I think part of the difference 379 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: was that we were like, Okay, we've hit the end 380 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 3: and we no longer felt the need to fight that 381 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 3: fight and to do like fan service, which doesn't work 382 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: when you're like Twitter lesbians are saying like we need 383 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: to to do this, or like Tumblr thinks that we 384 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 3: should do and you're just like no, no, no no. 385 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 4: When you do that, it doesn't work. 386 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 5: You drive yourself nuts a little bit, like you're just because. 387 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 2: They're not the ones that came up with the show. 388 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: The shows and you Brad and Ryan have the DNA 389 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 2: of this show, and so it's like any feeling off 390 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 2: of what you The. 391 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 3: Season that was most successful was where we wrote all 392 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: of it before anybody. 393 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 4: Saw it, so it was just like boom. We essentially 394 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 4: like dropped. 395 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 3: It and then you're like, oh wow, there was no feedback, 396 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 3: and the feedback loop. 397 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 4: Just did not help the show. I don't think. 398 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: But so then by the time of like season six, 399 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 3: it was just like just very very fun. I just 400 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 3: remember the hurt Locker, but I don't there's other stuff 401 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 3: where we were just like, oh no, this is just 402 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 3: like we just should have fun and enjoy the ride again. 403 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 4: And then is it still are we still in New 404 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 4: York at all? Or it was all back and we're back? 405 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: Yes? I think Also that's just helped here we are 406 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 3: you but you still you're back with the villain who's 407 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 3: going to complicate everything. 408 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: You're back with like right Eye. 409 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: Young kids, and then and like characters that like the 410 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 3: the the audience knows, and like it was just a 411 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 3: much much easier thing and not having to do this 412 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 3: show about college half the time, where you know, this 413 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: is just like okay now, because what was good about 414 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 3: the show is it like low low stakes? 415 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 4: Were high stakes? 416 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 3: Yes, it was like, oh my god, they I gotta 417 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: I gotta go. The dad will think I'm I'm in 418 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: their bathroom and they're gonna think I'm pooing the right 419 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 3: amount of like the the you know, the everybody fighting 420 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 3: for a Olive Garden gift certificate is the right amount. 421 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 4: Of steaks for like a show about high school, So 422 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 4: like that helps. 423 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 3: It's suddenly the scale of what's happening, and then you 424 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 3: can do funny things because in a high school, if 425 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 3: you do something mildly ribald i e. Like Sultan pepa At, 426 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 3: like a pep rally is going to be scandalous and funny. 427 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 3: You know it's nice and it's sort of like happens 428 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: to be Pg. 429 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 4: Thirteen. 430 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 3: So it's also like it's really funny. But also anybody 431 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: could watch it, you wouldn't be like, yeah, it's a 432 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 3: expression advice like that was just never gonna work with 433 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 3: the show. 434 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 4: So I think that helped us. 435 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 3: And then it was just sort of also it was 436 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 3: we didn't know. We're like, we just have to do 437 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: like thirteen of these. We can like do it in 438 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: our sleep. And then like how does it start? Do 439 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 3: we know? 440 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: The Starwood loser like me? So she Rachel learns that 441 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: the arts is been banished, so everybody comes back. 442 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 5: And we do. 443 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: The Rachel Barry project thing happens where is the worst 444 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: pilot of all time, and so she gets canceled in 445 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: many ways and then you know, goes back to Lima 446 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: with her like tab Beteen her legs and learns that 447 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: there is no glee Club anymore, and uses her money 448 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: from the pilot to like restart the glee Club with 449 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 2: Kurt Yep and Will's teaching vocal adrenaline coaching vocal adrenaline 450 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: Yep and Blaine. But my favorite thing, and I feel 451 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 2: like it's very Ian thing, is like when when we 452 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: have like an awkward segue into a song, or we 453 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 2: have like how did this character get back here? And 454 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 2: you just answer it really quickly with one like very 455 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: self reference line of like acknowledging how insane it is. 456 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: You just keep it moving and it happens a lot 457 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 2: this and like the first episode, Darren's just like and yeah, 458 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 2: I'm not really a teacher, but like I'm doing it now, 459 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 2: and so he's head of Dwarfloers. 460 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 5: I love it well, But. 461 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 3: I think this was the kind of that's what that's 462 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: why the season was fun, That it was just sort 463 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: of just a little bit like let's just have fun 464 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 3: and you could just sort of Maybe it's because it 465 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 3: was like that we felt like it was almost summer 466 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 3: vacation or something or that like it was a substitute 467 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 3: teacher and we were just sort of like letting to 468 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 3: do or you were just like we had senioritists I 469 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 3: think a little bit for. 470 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 2: Sure, and we just came through like the hardest year 471 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 2: ever before. 472 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean there's such a Scanner Darkly version 473 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 3: of like and again it's like the the longevity of 474 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 3: the show versus the tragedy of Corey Monty is dying 475 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 3: is I don't mean to make those a one to one, 476 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 3: but let's say he hadn't. 477 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I just do think. 478 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 3: There's a world where that the show went for ten Yeah, yeah, 479 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 3: yeahs it really could have. So it is interesting to 480 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: talk about this other sort of like sort of like 481 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: intense Plan. 482 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 4: B that so ended up being. 483 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 3: And I think probably seeing I think probably. 484 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 4: And again this is me I get. I get so 485 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 4: down on the show because. 486 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 3: It's like in these ways because I was like on 487 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 3: the inside of it. It's very well for me, I 488 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 3: acknowledge it. Like anytime again, I think we've talked about this. 489 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 3: Anytime you bring it up to like a civilian or 490 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 3: somebody who just likes the show, they do not know 491 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 3: what you're talking about. 492 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, well here's the thing. So like season five 493 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 4: is a little bit weird. 494 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 3: I think that like the second half of the season. 495 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 4: Two, we were maybe a little bit hired. 496 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 3: Three didn't quite were, and they're just like you might 497 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 3: as well just be speaking a different language, like you know, 498 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: this show's good, So I like I need to always 499 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 3: like remind myself like no, no, no, no, no, you don't 500 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 3: have to be. 501 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 4: Hard on it. Yeah, it's also like a really it 502 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 4: was on a good day. It's a hard show. 503 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, just it's a miracle anything ended up film or 504 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 2: on TV. 505 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: It's expensive, it's a lot of characters, music, it doesn't 506 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: not a lot of stuff happens, a lot of personalities, 507 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,959 Speaker 3: a lot of personalities. Yeah, it's just like it's a 508 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 3: miracle that it worked at all. Really low stakes kind 509 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 3: of it's a miracle that it worked. 510 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 4: So it's like all all that saying. 511 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 3: That. Yeah, I think it by by the end, it 512 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 3: was we were a little bit punch drunk, but it 513 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 3: just ended up being like really really silly and really fun. 514 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 2: If do you think that shorter season acts. I think 515 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: how it does now with most shows that are fewer episodes, 516 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 2: where it does make it more focused or you're not 517 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 2: having to fill twenty two episodes. Yes, like, oh we 518 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: have thirteen like you said you do in your sleep, 519 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: but we can also make each episode really exciting. 520 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 3: No, And I think there's a reason why, like those 521 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 3: big orders have sort of like gone the way of 522 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 3: the Dodo. They're just like harder, and it's like the model, 523 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 3: I think a more successful model seems to with it. 524 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 4: With some exceptions like procedurals. 525 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 3: That you can watch out of order or whatever, but 526 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 3: broadly it's just like, uh, you can kind of wrap 527 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 3: your hat around. It's so hard, but it's not like impossible. 528 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: Especially for an hour long. 529 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 5: It's crazy to do twenty two. 530 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 4: It's just a real you have to work all year. 531 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 4: You just don't ever stop. You just call yeah. 532 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's like so yes, I think that helped, 533 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 3: and I think it didn't. 534 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 4: You didn't have to. 535 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 3: There were no her keys where I think there were 536 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: in like not in one and two, maybe in three, 537 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 3: four five. There were just a few where you'd be like, op, 538 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 3: I was always just like we should put like a 539 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: title card at the end. 540 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 4: That's just sort of like sorry, like this show is hard, 541 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 4: like tune in next week. 542 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that one missed the mark a little bit. 543 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: Did you know that, Like when you were writing it, 544 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: could you You're like, you finished the episode, You're like, hmmm, 545 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: I'm not sure about this one. 546 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, sometimes. 547 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 4: But sometimes you'd be surprised. 548 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 3: But sometimes when you're breaking it, you're just like, these 549 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 3: are weird ideas. But then the weird idea is like 550 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 3: really work. And that's the thing with the show like 551 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 3: this that is a little bit weird, and it was 552 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 3: just that was in the dna of it, like sort 553 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: of swings and weird stuff that you're gonna have you're 554 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 3: just gonna miss. 555 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 4: Sometimes I think. 556 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 3: Other shows that weren't going as fast or or had 557 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: that were a little bit easier you could the It's 558 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: almost like the quality control of this show was like 559 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 3: less quality control, and they shot these amazing things, yes 560 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 3: that that were really good that you couldn't you couldn't do. 561 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 4: On any other show. 562 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 3: And again, I think I think the narrative that I 563 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 3: kept telling myself throughout in a in a in an 564 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 3: environment where that the ratings kept persistently dwindling, that we 565 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 3: kept saying like, ah, we're not doing it as well 566 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 3: as we were before. And I don't think. 567 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 4: That's entirely fair. 568 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 3: I agree now like we're one hundred and something episodes in, 569 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 3: so it's going to be different. 570 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 4: You're right, I would get. 571 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: I think I expressed my frustration with the pace and 572 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 3: the exhaustion, often with some self self reference and sort 573 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: of which I don't know quite why I did that, 574 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 3: and I would do it a lot, and then I 575 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 3: think I thought, I don't know it. Probably I would 576 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 3: probably go back and change that and be like, you're 577 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: quit breaking the fourth wall for you. That might be 578 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 3: actually kind of disorienting for an audience member who for 579 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 3: whom this world is still intact and real, right by 580 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 3: virtue of like you know, snarky snarky recaps in Vulture 581 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: plus a dwindling rating. I think i'd assumed, like, well, nobody, 582 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: nobody considers this world intact anymore. That was the way 583 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: I dealt with it, was to be like, oh no, no, 584 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 3: this is still a bit of a house of cards, 585 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 3: but like, look how clever we still are, and look 586 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 3: how entertaining this. 587 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 4: Show still is. 588 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 5: Got it? 589 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 3: I should have been I think we should have been 590 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 3: more confident in the reality of the show, right and 591 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 3: not rely on being like as gimmicky should My big 592 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: thing is like we should never met. We should have 593 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: never made like Quinn, like Lucy Cabussy, do you remember that? 594 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: You never forget it, But it's like a bit of 595 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: a It really undermines the reality of that character. 596 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 3: It works for a moment, it's a great episode, but 597 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 3: it's sort of if you watch after that, like Quin's 598 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 3: her status totally changes, not. 599 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 4: Like Queen Bee anymore. 600 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 2: She never recovers for the rest of the show. 601 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 5: Right, No, she doesn't, Right. 602 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 3: And it was like, it's stuff like that that I 603 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: think we would sort of do routinely that I now, 604 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 3: like fifteen years later, i'd be like, oh, watch out 605 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 3: for those like or be better at buying them back, 606 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 3: or know that you're sort of like selling a character 607 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 3: down the river. Maybe you because you're on the inside 608 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 3: of it, you're not as attached too, but there is 609 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 3: like there's a you're playing with the reality of a 610 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: world that for like an audience is is still very real. 611 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 3: But again, I thought, this world isn't as real as 612 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 3: it would have been, so we should play around with 613 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 3: it more like a little bit sort of like breaking 614 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: forth wall, like more in the vocabulary, because I think 615 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: we thought people would have been there weren't enough people 616 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 3: who were still paying attention, which there were. 617 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: I do think though you. I don't think you were 618 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: doing the self referential stuff, for example, too much. In 619 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: season six. To me, it felt more confident because the 620 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: show started like that, the show's a satire. We would 621 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: do that kind of stuff every now and then, and 622 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: it felt more like season one to me in the 623 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: way that because it wouldn't be belabored where I feel 624 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: like sometimes in season five, in some of four maybe 625 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: some of those things like we're just hitting it over 626 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: the beating a dead horse sort of thing. 627 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 5: But in season six. 628 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: That was noticeable to me that it was like quick 629 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 2: and like punchy, and that's why I like sort of 630 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 2: sat up. I was like, oh, this is funny, Like 631 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: Blaine is saying something like this, I believe it. And 632 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: it does feel like that, Like to hear you say 633 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: that now about sort of the state of mind for 634 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: season six, I totally feel that, right, And you feel 635 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: that in every single character where the old and the new, 636 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 2: like everyone sort of feels liberated and lived in and 637 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: the new characters feel lived in, but they fit in perfectly. 638 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 2: And it also does feel like we're having to force 639 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: these new kids on you, right. 640 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 5: They like click in. 641 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: What was it like, what was the conversation about bringing 642 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: a whole group of new kids in to the school 643 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: in the last season, did it feel like, no, question. 644 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: Like that's not that much time. I feel like thirteen 645 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 2: episodes and you're getting all propit kids on top of 646 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 2: all of us who are already there. 647 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 3: I mean, just the fact of the way you said 648 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 3: that like gave me a little bit of stomach ache. 649 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 5: Just now. 650 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 4: Back then I would have been like, who are they? 651 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 4: Is it the Twins? 652 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: Yes, the Twins, Roderick, Jane who was originally going to 653 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: be a Warbler and came over. 654 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 5: We've got uh. 655 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: And that's Madison the Twins, Spencer who's the out gay footballer. 656 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: But like that's right, post post postmodern gay. 657 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 4: Yea yeah, yea, yeah yeah. I like Jane a lot. 658 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 3: She was fun and she was easy to write towards. Yeah, 659 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 3: the Twins, I don't know that I wrote all that much. 660 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: They were funny, what they're great though, And roderg was 661 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: like the new one with like the amazing poice and 662 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: it was very brief, but like it gave Rachel and 663 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: Kurt yes a glee club, right, and he gave them 664 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: the vehicle for them to lead a glee club simultaneously 665 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: together as you know co teachers, which I enjoyed, and 666 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: they're very funny together. 667 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 3: Like you have to actually, this is what's been wild, 668 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: Like no nobody you have to also like teach m 669 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 3: it's a j school. 670 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: And they're very quickly falling into like shoe pattern where 671 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 2: they're not really coming up with a lesson until the 672 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 2: day of because they heard somebody say. 673 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 5: Something inspired writing something down the ball? 674 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 4: Did we do? 675 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 3: Is there more of doing this song where it's like 676 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 3: I just wrote this song. 677 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: But it's like, fully, no, there there haven't been that 678 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 2: many more original songs well that yes, yes, oh yes, 679 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 2: there's fully the like and then Santana and Brittany were like, 680 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: we'll show you how to do it, and the band's 681 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 2: ready to go. 682 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 4: And that's classic. 683 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 3: But again, once it's sort of baked in that, you're like, well, 684 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 3: this is sort of what the theme of the show 685 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 3: is going to be. 686 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 4: That's sort of like how we do. 687 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 3: That's the show's structure. I probably felt less squeamish about 688 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 3: doing that in this season than prior ones. 689 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: Sure it feels like that, and Jane has this incredible 690 00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 2: speech to Matt about about how he's never even acknowledged 691 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: the presence of any of the band and they're just 692 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 2: expected to know all of these songs. And she goes 693 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: on this whole round and it's the only sort of 694 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 2: like normal thing she ever says on the show, and 695 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 2: everything she says to Matt, it's just like, yeah that 696 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: actually yes, she was like a recap of all of 697 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 2: his horrible things he's done the entirety of six seasons. 698 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 2: It was very good. 699 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: It's really funny, very funny. She's still just she still 700 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: slaps still got it. Season five, Season six, as you heard, 701 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: was a joozy. I feel better that Ian doesn't remember 702 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 1: as much. It doesn't make It makes me feel better 703 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: about myself and how little that we remember. 704 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 2: Oh this whole experience is healing for. 705 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: This reasears Yeah, yeah no, but as you can see, 706 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: it was clearly very traumatic and jarring for us in 707 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: many many ways. And also like just the I don't know, 708 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: it's insightful to hear like his take on and like 709 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: not wanting to leave McKinley at all, like. 710 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 5: I were. 711 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 2: Like that was not our situation is fascinating. 712 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: His mindset of just being like This is a show, 713 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: a show about a show, choir like show about a school. 714 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: Don't leave the school. So it's fascinating. Anyway, there's a 715 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 1: part two, y'all. Uh, there's more to talk about. Hurt 716 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: Locker is a very very large part of that and 717 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: we dive, we have to dive deep into that. So 718 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,720 Speaker 1: he'll be back next week with Part two. Ian Brennan, 719 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: Stay tuned and. 720 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 2: That's what you really miss Thanks for listening, and follow 721 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 2: us on Instagram at and That's what you really miss pod. 722 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 2: Make sure to write us a review and leave us 723 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 2: five stars. See you next time.