WEBVTT - The Playbook: Put a Ring On It

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison and Lauren Ziema opening up the playbook what

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<v Speaker 1>do we Got Today?

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<v Speaker 2>Alzi the playbook today a big question. If you're married,

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<v Speaker 2>do you always have to wear a wedding ring? Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this topic came to me. It's been spurred by a

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<v Speaker 2>few things. As you know, Housewives fan, we have Real

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<v Speaker 2>Housewives of New York and Real Housewives of Salt Lake

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<v Speaker 2>City airing, and on both franchises, we got a couple

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<v Speaker 2>guys who aren't wearing their wedding rings all the time. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>for one guy, the wife says, this is on New

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<v Speaker 2>York City. She says, I don't care that he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>wear a wedding ring. She said he lost it like

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<v Speaker 2>a week after they got married years ago. She says

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't bother her, they're fine. Her friends are a

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<v Speaker 2>little suspicious of it, and she tells them you need

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<v Speaker 2>to get over that. And one woman on the show

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<v Speaker 2>agrees with her and says, a guy wearing a wedding

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<v Speaker 2>ring has nothing to do with whether he's going to cheat.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the big deal there? All you do is take

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<v Speaker 2>the ring off and put it in your pocket. Over

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<v Speaker 2>on Salt Lake City, similar situation, but different takes. The

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<v Speaker 2>woman tells her husband, Hey, you have been wearing your

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<v Speaker 2>wedding ring lately and it really hurts me. She sees

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<v Speaker 2>him putting it in his drawer. She says, that's hurtful

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<v Speaker 2>to me, and actually it's making her back off of

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<v Speaker 2>their intimate life because she doesn't feel comfortable and safe. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>So this could go a lot aways, and I thought

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<v Speaker 2>we got to get into it. Especially, Yeah, as you

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<v Speaker 2>and I have, you know, picked out wedding rings not

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<v Speaker 2>that long ago, and are about to do this ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>So right, what do you think off the bat? If

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<v Speaker 2>you're married, do you need to wear your wedding ring

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<v Speaker 2>all the time?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Especially this is a little heavy since we have

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<v Speaker 1>wedding rings ordered. I think it's a case by case basis,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not trying to waffle here and get out

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<v Speaker 1>of this. But like you know, my boy Chip who

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<v Speaker 1>lost his ring like a week into his marriage. He's

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<v Speaker 1>this guy he went through like five rings, lost them all.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the difference. Chip got more rings. This guy

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<v Speaker 2>has never gotten another ring.

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<v Speaker 1>And a ring by the way, now, for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>he's kept the or a ring.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh the thing that's monitoring his sleep. Well, he's very

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<v Speaker 2>health conscious. But regardless, he's gotten more rings and he's

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<v Speaker 2>continued to wear a ring. Even when he's lost them,

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<v Speaker 2>he gets a new one. This guy has not lost

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<v Speaker 2>it a week after his wedding, has never worn a ring. Listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's I think if you're married, wear a

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<v Speaker 2>wedding ring. I do, and I agree with that one

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<v Speaker 2>woman on the show that just because you're wearing a

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<v Speaker 2>wedding ring doesn't mean you're not going to cheat. It

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<v Speaker 2>is as easy as slipping the ring off. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a symbol. I think it's meaningful. I do

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<v Speaker 2>think that it's a public show that you're in a relationship. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to protect I mean, if people want

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<v Speaker 2>to cheat, they're going to find a way to cheat.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's a public proud showing that you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a relationship. And I think it's a red flag

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<v Speaker 2>if somebody doesn't want to wear a ring, just like

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<v Speaker 2>you know in the social media age over on ninety

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<v Speaker 2>Day Fiance the other day which I was watching, this

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<v Speaker 2>woman was telling her boyfriend it it doesn't it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>ring well for me that you don't ever want to

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<v Speaker 2>post about our relationship, that you don't want to share

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of us. Like I think if somebody's not willing

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<v Speaker 2>to make public shows of your relationship, at least on occasion,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a red.

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<v Speaker 1>Flag to me. I, for one, just personally, I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to wear a ring. I'm excited to have

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<v Speaker 1>that symbol that bond and it's a bond with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's something we get to both look at. And

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<v Speaker 1>I love looking at your ring, and so to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fun and it's exciting and I can't wait. And

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<v Speaker 1>I get there's times when you can't wear your ring,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I go to the gym or I go

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<v Speaker 1>play golf in this particular ring, I think will probably

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<v Speaker 1>be a little problematic with that. And so I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about buying a silicone ring, something I could just have

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<v Speaker 1>on still, because I just like the fact that it's there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do. I want my friends to see it,

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<v Speaker 1>my guy friends to see it. I want everyone to

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<v Speaker 1>know that. So when you get married, if you are

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<v Speaker 1>reluctant or if you've been wearing it now all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, you're not like the woman said, he takes

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<v Speaker 1>it off, puts it in his drawer.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think that's a worse sign than I totally agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I've just never been somebody who wears a ring.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if someone's been wearing it for a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years and it's like, okay, so it doesn't bother him,

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<v Speaker 1>it's normal, and then all of a sudden, he's just

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<v Speaker 1>not that's not great. That's not a good sign.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I do think what's what I want to

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<v Speaker 2>applaud both of these couples on these shows on about

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<v Speaker 2>is they're both talking about it, and they're both saying

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<v Speaker 2>this is what works or doesn't work for us. Like

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<v Speaker 2>on New York, the wife is saying, he's never worn

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<v Speaker 2>a ring, and I don't care. People know we're married,

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<v Speaker 2>we have kids together. I don't care. Okay, then that

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<v Speaker 2>works for you. And over on Salt Lake City, the

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<v Speaker 2>wife is telling her husband, it is bothering me that

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<v Speaker 2>you're not wearing the ring, and she's communicating that very clearly.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's always the what works for you l element.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I'm talking overarching like I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I also think it's nice to not have to

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<v Speaker 2>defend your relationship, and there are certainly societal norms that

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<v Speaker 2>might or might not be wrong, But like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's such a small thing. It's like, dude, wear a ring.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you're married and you want to be

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<v Speaker 2>proud of your wife, why not throw a ring on

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<v Speaker 2>so she doesn't have to defend herself and defend your relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you have it. It's in your drawer. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like you get this guy I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about the New York he allegedly lost it, But

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<v Speaker 2>why not get another ring?

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I agree again painting with a broadbrush here, I

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<v Speaker 1>totally agree. I think it's a sign of respect, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a sign of love, it's a sign of bond and unity,

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<v Speaker 1>and of what the ring actually means. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>is a part of the vowels in your wedding that

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<v Speaker 1>have to do with that symbol and what it what

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<v Speaker 1>it signifies. So I find it personal. I find it

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<v Speaker 1>very important.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what. That's such a good point you just made.

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<v Speaker 2>As we're about to take vowels well case by case.

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<v Speaker 2>But if your vows had something in them about the

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<v Speaker 2>symbolism of the ring, that's not in every wedding vow.

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<v Speaker 2>But if your vows have that, well, then yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>ring means something. So wear the ring and you're not

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<v Speaker 2>wearing it means something.

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<v Speaker 1>I think every time I look at my ring, or

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<v Speaker 1>of every day I put it on, it will mean

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<v Speaker 1>something to me. It's a it's a it's a commitment.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that when I look down at my engagement ring.

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<v Speaker 2>I've literally texted you this before. It makes me happy.

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<v Speaker 2>When I look down at my ring, it makes me

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<v Speaker 2>think of you. It makes me happy. And yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I think, not in a materialistic way like it's

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<v Speaker 2>this thing, but the meaning of it. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>took vows and the vows were about putting the ring

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<v Speaker 2>on and with this ring, I promise this, then it

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<v Speaker 2>has weight. And did your vows mean something? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it always comes back to that all

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<v Speaker 1>important word communication. If you don't like what this guy

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<v Speaker 1>is doing, if you don't like he's not wearing a ring,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to bring it up. That is incoming upon

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<v Speaker 1>you to say, Babe, it really hurts me. You're leaving

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<v Speaker 1>the house every day and you're not wearing a ring.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going out with the boys, you're going to golf,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to work, and that response from him, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty easy and it should be, babe, if that's

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<v Speaker 1>important to you, Oh my gosh, I'm putting my ring on.

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<v Speaker 2>So you okay, That's what I was going to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of ask you. Do you think it's a warning sign

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<v Speaker 2>if a guy's not willing to wear a ring, especially

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<v Speaker 2>when the woman says, or if anybody man, woman, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>if the partner says it's bothering me that you're not

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<v Speaker 2>wearing that broadbrush.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, if someone says I really want you to wear that,

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<v Speaker 1>it means a lot to me. And you've you've worn

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<v Speaker 1>it before and now you're just not one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a red flag, which, by the way, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure why, because he could just wear it out the

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<v Speaker 1>house and take it off if that's what he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Again, it's not a chastity bell, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a fail safe, right, but it is that symbol to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I totally see that woman's point on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the flip side, and I get that if this is you,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it because I have friends like this. He's

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<v Speaker 1>just a dopey dude. He's got three kids. Everybody knows

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<v Speaker 1>they're married in the neighborhood, nobody cares. That doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>I get their situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, because it's a thing that might not mean anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you could be a very happily married person with

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<v Speaker 2>kids and you love your life and you love your family,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just don't wear a ring. Of course, it

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<v Speaker 2>could mean nothing, but it could also mean something.

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<v Speaker 1>It could and in these cases it seems like it

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<v Speaker 1>does well.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I mean, you're a guy who you hang

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<v Speaker 2>out with other guys a lot, you go golfing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in these places where it's only men around, if you

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<v Speaker 2>see a guy who doesn't wear his ring, or if

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<v Speaker 2>you like, I don't know, does that is that a

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<v Speaker 2>get a warning sign to you? Or does it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny, you know it's funny. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just thinking. I was racking my brain because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I go on golf trips with the guys, and again

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<v Speaker 1>we go to these as you know, as they send

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<v Speaker 1>you pictures, Oh my gosh, the most desolate places.

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<v Speaker 2>On these golf trips, and I'm like, I can't believe

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<v Speaker 2>you're paying for this, because he will send me a

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<v Speaker 2>video where they're at. They've got bunk beds, they're in

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<v Speaker 2>this like cabin. It looks like it's barely summer camp.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got bunk beds, and he's so excited. Is there

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<v Speaker 2>this cool golf course and it's the I'm like, where

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<v Speaker 2>are you eating? He's like, well, it's in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of nowhere. All there is is this cafeteria.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to kill and eat our own food.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just thinking, you, this is what you're paying for.

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<v Speaker 2>I would pay to go to the nicest.

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<v Speaker 1>Spot we were let's say we were in a big

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<v Speaker 1>city or something like that. I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>would notice. I don't know if I I specifically look

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<v Speaker 1>at my friend's fingers to know if they have their

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<v Speaker 1>rings on or not. Is that weird?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you saying that straight men aren't detail oriented?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was just thinking, like, I mean, well that

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<v Speaker 1>that posed it like, do you like, would you notice

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<v Speaker 1>if you girls want? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I wouldn't. I guess. I'm more so meant like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you see I don't know. I guess I'm I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like there are also and maybe it means that

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<v Speaker 2>the ring doesn't mean that much. Yeah, but I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you just know in groups of guys, you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of know who the guys are really love their wives

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<v Speaker 2>and are faithful and are great. And then you know

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<v Speaker 2>who the guys are who are like a little flirty, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not great and you know, and that's obvious.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe maybe what you're saying is, yeah, the ring

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<v Speaker 2>thing doesn't matter if you don't even you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't notice, but I would. I would bet strangers

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<v Speaker 1>do other other women like if when you were single,

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<v Speaker 1>did you go to a bar and was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first things you did look down at his left hand? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I would look when I was single, I one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent with.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not because I'm thinking about when I was single.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, so I was in my early twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>People weren't like married that much.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely looked when I because I was in my

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<v Speaker 1>what forties. Yeah, and so I definitely would go if

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<v Speaker 1>I was at a bar or something I found somebody interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>I for sure looked at their finger to see if

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<v Speaker 1>they had a ring on.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I will say there have been times when I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't always bring or wear my engagement room because I

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<v Speaker 2>was like worried about it, right, because you think there's

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<v Speaker 2>it's just worth a lot of money, so I would

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<v Speaker 2>get nervous, Like sometimes I would lock my ring in

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<v Speaker 2>a safe, like on a girl's trip. If I'm going out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know, like when we've been in Mexico. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>like there have been times and I'm like, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>out and I don't know. I don't want to like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like worried.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes when you travel abroad, we're jumping.

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<v Speaker 2>In, We're in a boat, we're jumping Yeah. I think

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<v Speaker 2>when you and I were in Europe, I didn't always

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<v Speaker 2>wear it out because we didn't necessarily know where we were. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>if we're going swimming in the ocean, I would probably

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<v Speaker 2>leave in the safe in the hotel room. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>stuff I get. But when you're not wearing it day in,

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<v Speaker 2>day out, I do think it's a red flag.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, and I can't wait to wear my ring.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's very sweet, very soon. Well. I was about

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<v Speaker 2>to say you have to say this because we're on

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast, but you have been telling me just no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I really am. I'm genuinely excited. I can't wait for

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<v Speaker 1>everyone to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I think it's very classic and it's

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<v Speaker 2>very you.

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<v Speaker 1>And you have decided to wear a band, yes, at.

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<v Speaker 2>A band, well, but you know what, that's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>other layer of this. I love my engagement ring as

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<v Speaker 2>it is, so the band I picked doesn't fit in

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<v Speaker 2>with it the way some people do. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>I will always either wear my engagement ring or this

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<v Speaker 2>band like one or the other. Or a friend of

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<v Speaker 2>mine of ours told me what she does is she

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<v Speaker 2>wears the band on her right hand all the time

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<v Speaker 2>and her engagement ring on her left hand all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe I'll do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's interesting, You know what never gets talked

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<v Speaker 1>about is a woman not wearing her ring. Why is

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<v Speaker 1>it the you know what I mean, that's not a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a storyline on the real hospital season.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's the guy, which means, you know what, it

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<v Speaker 1>is a red flag.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that just yeah, I think I think that

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<v Speaker 1>just summed it up for me. Thank you guys so

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