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You already know how sucks is spelled. 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: He's an unbelievable comedian. He's got three killer podcasts. Check 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: out everything he does, the live tour dates. I love him. 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: You're gonna love him. He's a diehard Broncos fan. I 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: think you guys are gonna really enjoy this episode. I 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: don't know what's tom dude. Hey, we gotta go here, 15 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: we gotta go Thank God sometime. Hey, everybody, welcome to 16 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: another episode of the Tailgate. I am joined by the 17 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: great Jimmy Whistman. 18 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: Hello Jimmy, Hello outside. 19 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what this energy is. I try to 20 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: always bring a lot of energy at the beginning of 21 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: the show, a little game show in it. Yeah, and 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: here's the problem. The only thing I think about is 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: I need energy. I never think about the words, and 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: so it's always either way too long, like ladies and 25 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: gentlemen joining us on the show is a man who 26 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: likes a team and he's a man Jimmy Whisman, or 27 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: it's way too short like I just did, and it 28 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: just falls off a cliff and then all of a sudden, 29 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: you're holding the show going hello everyone. 30 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: When we podcast and make a Patreon episode, that's we 31 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: never know what to do there. Either. It's very similar 32 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: to that where we'll say stuff and then people will 33 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: tweet at us and say, wow, you guys aren't real 34 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: excited to do these shows. I don't know how to 35 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: how to give you what you want. 36 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: The main problem with this episode, Jimmy, is because here's 37 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: the thing. We're going to get into Dobbs Mania. Yeah, 38 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: we're going to get into the unique nature of your 39 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: season with a giving up a seventy burger and then 40 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: also beating the Bills last night. We're going to get 41 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: in to a lot of football relevant like currently relevant things. 42 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: But all I think about a lot of people when 43 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: they think about the Denver Broncos in the Minnesota Vikings, 44 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: it drums up the pain of nineteen ninety eight. 45 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: All that feeling. 46 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: But for me, yeah, there is a specific moment that 47 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: is seared into my brain. It's one of my favorite 48 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: football moments of all time, and it happened to I'm 49 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: curious if you'll remember this all right, two thousand and three. Okay, 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: regular season game. Yeah, relatively uneventful first half. But on 51 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: third and twenty four, with fifteen seconds left in the 52 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: first half, Dante Culpepper rolled out past the thirty yard 53 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: line and thought, hey, I'm gonna try to throw this 54 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: all the way to the end zone, and he heaved 55 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: the ball upwards into the lights of the Metrodome. Randy Moss, 56 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: who had gone to where you catch a touchdown the 57 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: end zone, so he saw the ball and he's like, well, 58 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: that's not gonna make it. So he came back, caught 59 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: the ball at the ten yard line, and with two 60 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos draped all over him, he spun and flipped 61 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: the ball over his head to Moe Williams, who ran 62 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: it in for a touchdown. I think it's when the 63 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: NFL network did the sixty eight Greatest Plays in NFL history, 64 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: it was number sixty eight. They didn't do the sixty 65 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: eight greatest plays. They did, Jimmy, they did the hundred. 66 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: They weren't like, you know what, we're the NFL. Sixty 67 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: Eight's enough. 68 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: They'll get the idea. 69 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: But do you as a Denver fan? To me, that 70 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: is like an all time organizational moment for you? Do 71 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: you even remember that? 72 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: I don't, and I and I often times I try 73 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 2: to shut moments like that one out because they hurt 74 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: so bad, Like the Colts kicker leveling? 75 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: Was it? 76 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: Hillman? I think it was for his like a highlight, 77 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: one of his top three biggest plays of his career. 78 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: I try to shut those out because I don't want 79 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: to remember them. And why doesn't. I really don't remember 80 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: a lateral to a touchdown to win the game in fifteen. 81 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, let's be very clear. That's how pathetic. 82 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: That's how pathetic when you haven't won Super Bowls. It 83 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: was the end of the first half. Jee, Yeah, it 84 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: was not to win the game. I think they did 85 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: win that game. They it was definitely just the end 86 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: of the first half it was it might have been 87 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: and Mike Tye's the beginning of the Mike Tice era. 88 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: Well, let me say this, the the Culpeper to Moss 89 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: uh combination is one of the what you can watch 90 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: highlights of the two of them for days. They were 91 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 2: so much fun cold and also Cunningham. Cunningham to Moss 92 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 2: was amazing. As a Denver Broncos fan, I love the 93 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: AFC and I love the rivalries in the AFC, but 94 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: nothing really makes me as happy in the NFC as 95 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: a Vikings Eagles or a Vikings anything really rivalry. They 96 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: are so much fun to watch because the Vikings really are. 97 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: They're one of the tougher NFC teams historically. They're always tough. 98 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: And that's the problem. It's it's always tough, never the 99 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: bride Jimmy, and that is I've heard. I've had a 100 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: lot of friends who are fans of AFC teams say 101 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: that where they're like, you guys are always You're just 102 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: always there and you're like cool, sweet compliment. 103 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: We see you at the dance, you look so freddy. 104 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: You see us at the dance, sloth in our way 105 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: over by the kool aid, hoping somebody accidentally gives us 106 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: the homecoming crown. It's it is. It is wild because 107 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: I think as Viking fans, since we've never won, it's 108 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: easy to disdain a lot of teams. Like most teams 109 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: I despise list is pretty long because for me, there 110 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: are a handful of teams that I really can invest 111 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: in other teams if they're playing well. The Broncos are 112 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: actually one. I don't have any negative feelings towards the Broncos. 113 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: The Jaguars are really fun. You know, there's a there's 114 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: a few of these teams that I I don't It 115 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: doesn't bother me to connect to, but I find that 116 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: the Vikings for other teams, especially in the AFC, we 117 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: are we are that team. They're like, oh, I love 118 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: the Vikings. It's like, yeah, because we've never ruined any 119 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: shit for you, like I wish you hated us. 120 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: And the Broncos are similar to that too. They when 121 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: when they stink, they stink in fashion that is the 122 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: most non threatening and so funny to watch stink. And 123 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: when they're good, they're they're fun for other teams to hate, 124 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: mostly the AFC because they only play a few teams 125 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: in the NFC during the regular season, then they only 126 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: have one at the end if they win everything. So 127 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: that is a that is a nice distinction in the NFL, 128 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: being able to pick and choose what teams you don't 129 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: necessarily hate in the other league because in the other conference, 130 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: because it doesn't doesn't affect your day, usually. 131 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: Doesn't usually ruin an entire week for you. It was 132 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: never disdained towards Broncos, the Broncos and Broncos fans was 133 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: to watch you guys beat Brett Farr the amount little 134 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: shitty thirteen year old me. Do you know how many 135 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: people I did the mile high salute to in my 136 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: school who were Patriot fans. I think that's when I 137 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: learned how to be really a problem, real patty. Yeah, 138 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: that was the year that that started for me. And 139 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: then the next year to exist in pure sadness as 140 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: your team beat the Falcons. So it's never been disdained, 141 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: but that two year run for you guys, there are 142 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: people who will go to their grave in Minnesota despising 143 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: that we didn't get a chance to see that ninety 144 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: eight offense against your Denver Broncos. 145 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: And you're not wrong, because I recently watched that game 146 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: all over again because it was it's still probably top 147 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: three championship games for a conference championship. It was such 148 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: a great game. You rarely get an overtime game, and 149 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: you shouldn't have had an overtime game. Really, I mean 150 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: the race to thirty one, Oh, Jemmy, the first team 151 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 2: to get thirty one generally wins the game, and they 152 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: should have had thirty one long before it was certainly 153 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: Pi Moss should have had a touchdown and then leaving 154 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 2: three on the on the on the field with a 155 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: miss field goal not not a tough one. I feel 156 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: like I could have made that. 157 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: Hey, Jimmy, my wife and I got in a fight 158 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: like two months ago. Do you want to come after 159 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: the show? Should we do another podcast where you dissect 160 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: how that let's reet you just say, man, we're lucky 161 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: we didn't have to play you, and we can move 162 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: on it. 163 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: Really, it's really robbery that we didn't get to see 164 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: that matchup because that team was so good on on 165 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: both sides. They were so good. 166 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: You really thank you. You really pulled it together. There's 167 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: this series. I can't remember if it was the NFL 168 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: networker who did it, but Yeah, and maybe I've talked 169 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: about this on the program before, but there was this 170 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: series called The Missing Rings and it was all about 171 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: the best teams to have never won a title. Oh 172 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: and it's the one about the ninety eight Minnesota Vikings. 173 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: Is done so well and is so oh heartbreakingly disappointing. 174 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: Even as you're going through it, you're like, well, I 175 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: wonder if it'll change, and it doesn't. It doesn't change, 176 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: but turn it around. But that's the beautiful thing about sports, 177 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: is you know, I have so I've made friends across 178 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: the league and to watch some of the like when 179 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: the Philadelphi as much as I think you and I 180 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: feel the same way about Philadelphia fans, yeah, put them 181 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: all in prison, hard line on Philly. But one of 182 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: my best friends, Blake Wexler, who's been on the show 183 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: a number of times. He he's a sweet, sweet, sweet man, 184 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: and he to watch him watch his childhood team, And 185 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: it's the same way with you, Like when when the 186 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: Broncos won, it was such an agonizing, agonizing path to that. 187 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: They've gotten so close with Lway and so anytime you 188 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: see a fan base and I look forward to that 189 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: with the Viking anytime you see a fan base who 190 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: finally gets their title, I think that's such a beautiful 191 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: thing and it's really interesting to me to see these 192 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: teams that got close. 193 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, watching the Cubs finally win was that was so 194 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 2: much fun. And then the very next season, despising every 195 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: single person in a Cubs hat really felt good. It 196 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: felt as good to hate them as it did to 197 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: root for them to win, because you don't you don't 198 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: want to see people suffer all ever, sometimes it's fun, 199 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: but for the most part, like watching Cleveland struggle and 200 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: cry and ruin quarterback after quarterback, it really it patches 201 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: up a lot that's wrong with me. The Cubs fans, 202 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: I didn't man they were. I loved Ryan Sandberg. I 203 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 2: loved watching them as when I was a kid. And 204 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: then watching them just lose it's not fun. And then 205 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: to watch them win it felt good. I was I 206 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: was happy for him, I was happy for the players 207 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: that were involved. One of them had cancer whatever Rizzo 208 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: was that his name. I don't know. I don't want 209 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: to watch dynasties. I don't like that. I like watching, Yes, 210 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: I watch I like watching losing, punishment, pain, reward, and 211 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 2: then go back to the. 212 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: Well, go back to where you came from. Yeah, that's 213 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: I think about that. I think about the Cleveland Browns 214 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: a lot because I think they're the closest organization to 215 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings in professional sports in terms of the 216 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: disappointment and the long suffering misery of the fan base. 217 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: They just got this unbelievable win against the the Ravens 218 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: last week, and I they are on my short list 219 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: of teams that as long as they don't win the 220 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl against the Vikings, it'll be really fun. But 221 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: I I think we're at the point where I don't 222 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: know that people are going to handle it well if 223 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: Minnesota ever wins a title. Yeah, because I'm gonna tell you, 224 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna handle it well when and I just 225 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: I just don't think when you've had this. So the 226 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: last time we won a title was ninety one and 227 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: eighty seven before that in men's professional sports. So we're 228 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: now on a over a three decade run, and before 229 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: that ain't no titles going a long ways back. And 230 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: so when the Minnesota miracle happened, when Stefan Diggs caught 231 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: that ball went to the en zone, I was watching 232 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: that game with a handful of Minnesota fans, and one 233 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: of them. After a few moments of celebrating, we turned 234 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: to see him just on his knees with his hands 235 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: up towards the heavens, like the end of Shawshank Redemption, 236 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: and he was just joyously screaming the F word, but 237 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: like holding the note like like for like Jim carrying 238 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: the mask held it for that long. I just don't 239 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: think you know how they throw parades after a team 240 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: wins a super If the Vikings win a Super Bowl, 241 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: I think it'd be more like a zombie pub crawl 242 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: because there'd just be people walking around, like what do 243 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: you what do you mean? What do you mean? 244 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: What do we do? 245 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: What do you mean? 246 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 2: I'm not how to celebrate? 247 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: You mean we made the important kick? Like, I don't 248 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: think they're gonna have any clue. What was it like 249 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: when when Denver finally broke through and got those. 250 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: I'm from Colorado Springs and living in Arizona. We were 251 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: white trash and I grew up here with my mother 252 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: and I am being a mother who couldn't keep tracking 253 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: me in the summer time. We would send me back 254 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: to Colorado in the summertime. To stay with my grandparents 255 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: and and then we would be back to be back 256 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: there for Christmas and holidays and such. So I would 257 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: watch football games with my grandfather growing up, and that's 258 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: how I mean, I didn't really have a father, So 259 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: my my grandfather and I bonded over over football and 260 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: specifically the Denver Broncos. And so I didn't get to 261 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: watch a lot with anybody passionately here until until much later, 262 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: and heartbreak after heartbreak in the eighty seven Super Bowl, 263 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: and just watching my grandfather, who worked his tailoff owning, 264 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 2: owning his own business in Colorado Springs. And then so 265 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: he would come home and his only joy was drinking 266 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: and watching a football game and to have no joy 267 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: in it because they always lost, and John Elway thrown 268 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: thrown picks constantly and he'd throw cans all over them. 269 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: So the passion that I have for the Broncos is 270 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: not necessarily even for like investing money in gear and 271 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: going to games, and it's just the the downright camaraderie 272 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: with my grandfather. And so seeing all of that, my 273 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: entire childhood was nothing but losses, just l after l 274 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: and then my senior year of high school, they finally 275 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl, and they gave me just like 276 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: the most perfect childhood. It's just heartbreak right up until 277 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: you get out and do it on your own and 278 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: they win, and then the next year miraculously do it again. Uh. 279 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: And we really did get robbed with that Super Bowl 280 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: because the the second Super Bowl didn't feel like like a. 281 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: Super little anti climactic was it really was. It was 282 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: the whole season. It felt like a collision course. And 283 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: then somebody took one of the ships out of the 284 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: way and the other one just sailed off into the Sun's. 285 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: Just a beat. But my high school football coach, I 286 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: didn't play football, Why did I say, Mike? The high 287 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: school that I went to was football coach. His son 288 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: played for the Falcons the year that Denver beat the 289 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: pants off of them, So that felt nice too. Coach 290 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: swayed the son. He was a lineman. He was a 291 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: big fat tub in high school and it went to 292 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: play for for the Falcons and and my Broncos beat 293 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: the hell out of them. So that felt nice too, 294 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: because he was addicted to everybody in the hallings. 295 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: You say that about your grandpa and I you know, 296 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: and I'm sure that that moment when they finally broke 297 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: through was unbelievable for him. We didn't go to games 298 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: growing up either. And you know, in fact, so working 299 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: for the team has been really, really surreal for me. 300 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: I talk about it all the time. I'm surprised that 301 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: they let me keep doing it because at some point 302 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: there's somebody will have to say, hey, you can't do that, 303 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: You can't that thing you just did, don't do. In fact, 304 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: there've been those conversations, and so I've like, you know, 305 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: how they have the three strike rule where before you 306 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: spend life in prison. I'm not big on state laws. 307 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's still happening in California. 308 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, state laws tend to escape me. 309 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: Also, I'm at the very least on strike too. So 310 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: I you know, I've I've really got to I've really 311 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: got to do my best to be a grown up 312 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: because I don't want anybody to call one of my 313 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: bosses and be like, hey, So I was trying to 314 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: ask Justin Jefferson a bunch of questions before the game, 315 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: and we'd like to ban him from the building. 316 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: We'd like him to never do that. 317 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: Can he not be anywhere near it? But so I 318 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: got to you know, I get to go be a 319 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: part of the event every once in a while when 320 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: they play. And I recently got to take my dad 321 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: and my best friend and my brothers and my nephew 322 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: to the game. And my dad had not been to 323 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: a game in I believe twenty two years, twenty two 324 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: or twenty three years. My brother all three of my 325 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: brothers had never been to a game ever INTREB And 326 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: so to watch them get down on the field and 327 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: be able to experience, oh what, and then and then 328 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: they had the you know, such wonderful seats to watch 329 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: them beat the forty nine ers on Monday night football. 330 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: It's it gave me, but it gave me that feeling 331 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: of because the US Bank was rocking that game. It 332 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: was outrageous, and it kind of reinvigorated. I think COVID 333 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,959 Speaker 1: and not being connected and not being there and the 334 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: team kind of being up and down for a while 335 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: kind of pulls you away from what it's like when 336 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: the real magic is there. Yeah, and that night, the 337 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: magic was there, and it reinstilled that desire in me 338 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: to see the team go go to where they're gonna go. 339 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden this Josh Dobbs thing happens, 340 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: and I know, excre's the thing. You're in Arizona. I 341 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: know you're you're a Broncos fan, but you pay enough 342 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: attention to the Cardinals that you got to see him 343 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: down there. This People keep asking me what I think, 344 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: and all I think is, at least right now, it's 345 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: the most fun. 346 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: Yes. 347 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: Oh, he is so likable, so fun, so interesting to 348 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: watch play. I'm just I'm having fun. 349 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: Being in Arizona. Every Arizona football fans should be because 350 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: we're Vikings adjacent. I mean, our best wide receiver ever 351 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: grew up in Minnesota was a ball boy for the Vikings, 352 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: was supposed to play for the Vikings for whatever reason, 353 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: Arizona snatched it Gerald and whatever whatever. He had a 354 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: great career, uh and the Steelers did him dirty. But 355 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: with him being being from Minnesota and really loving the 356 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: the community there and then coming here and bringing that 357 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 2: sense of it's a sense of community because Minnesota, they 358 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 2: talk about the Minnesota nice and the end. But it's 359 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 2: it's not just it's not just how people treat you. 360 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 2: It's the the welcoming attitude of of come do this 361 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: with it. I've been to a meat auction or meat rally? Meat? 362 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 2: What do they call? That's? 363 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: I could I'm not going to tell you because what 364 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: I would prefer the rest of this show to be 365 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: is just you trying to guess what it's called. What's 366 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: it called? A Is it a meat lottery? What do 367 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: they what do they call it? It? Is it a 368 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: meat count raffle? Is it's a meat raffle? I hate 369 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: that you figured that out. That makes me so angry 370 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: that you figured out what's it? What do they what 371 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: do they call it? A meat? Meat selection party? That's 372 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: the one Jimmy go. 373 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 2: With a meat white elephant? Is that what it is? 374 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: It's it's so I I went to one. I've won, 375 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: I won, Si I won. I had to pack I 376 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: had to put two t bones and two uh what 377 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: uh rip ros, I don't know. I had to put 378 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 2: them in a hotel freezer and try to get them 379 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: cold enough to pack them into my suitcase to fly 380 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: those active Phoenix. But the the welcoming attitude, it doesn't 381 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: matter Minnesota. The community there is amazing, it really is. 382 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: And and Fitzgerald brought that to Phoenix, and he would 383 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: and he's he's that he's genuinely a Minnesota person, and 384 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: it kind of translated to like, his just behavior in 385 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: Arizona made other people one of I don't know, they 386 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: made him. It made him a fan favorite, that's for 387 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: damn sure. And then with Dobbs going there, now it's 388 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: it's like, uh, I don't know, the people here should 389 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 2: really be big. But then NFC, so it's never gonna happen, 390 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 2: but they should. They should be happy when Minnesota does well. 391 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 2: But Dobbs is boy, is that lightning in a bottle? 392 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: And and what whether he has talent or not, we'll see. 393 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: Even his mistakes are fun. I watched him on an 394 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: airplane and I was I could not help but root 395 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 2: for the entire damn team because he's just so much 396 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: fun to watch what he's scrambling, his passes, even when 397 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 2: their errant and not even tool receiver. It's so much 398 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: fun to watch him just damn try. It's it's the try. 399 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: It's it's wild, and it's I both want to see 400 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:43,479 Speaker 1: where it goes, but I also both kind of You know, 401 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: when a TV show ends and it has it has 402 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 1: one of the like very rarely do TV shows have 403 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: great endings? Yeah, like probably the best of all time, 404 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: New Heart, right where he wakes up in his old show. 405 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: I don't know that I've seen the last show of 406 00:22:58,600 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: the Bob Newhart Show. 407 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: So so the Bob and I always screw the titles up. 408 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: But the Bob Newhart Show, he was a therapist in 409 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: New York City or wherever it was. I'm guessing that 410 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: it was New York City, but with his life. And 411 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: then years later he had New Heart, which he was 412 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: running a bed and breakfast with Larry, Daryl and Darryl 413 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: right and the whole cast up at this crazy thing. 414 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: And the last episode ever was him like and they 415 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: this is back in the day when you could keep secrets. 416 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: So it's a live studio audience and they go to 417 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: bed and then there it's the middle of the night 418 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: and they switch the sets out and everything's dark, and 419 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: then you hear him wake up, and you hear him 420 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: talking to his wife, and then she wakes up and 421 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: it's his wife from the first show. And so the 422 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: entire Bed and Breakfast New Heart show was just a dream. 423 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 2: The whole thing unbelievable. 424 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: And so and then you walk away from that and 425 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: you go, well, this is perfection. Even though I'd like more. 426 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: It's perfection, and no one's gonna agree with this take, 427 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: and I don't even I don't even know that I 428 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: agree with this take because I can't wait to see 429 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: where we go from here. We're here to talk about 430 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: the game where Dobbs and the Vikings play you. But like, 431 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: right now, it's perfection. 432 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: Yeah for this. 433 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: Who knows it could get better, it could get worse, 434 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: but in this moment, right now, to have him do 435 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: what he's done with so little knowledge and so little 436 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: you know time, the. 437 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: Little knowledge, he didn't even know the receiver's name. 438 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: Side and he didn't in the first one, he didn't 439 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: have Deresaw, he didn't have Jefferson. In the second one, 440 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: he didn't have Jefferson. It's wild. Yeah, now let's shift 441 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: here because I have no idea what in the hell 442 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: I need to make of what's happening in Denver. I 443 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: think it's difficult. It's difficult to go to Denver. It's 444 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: always difficult to go to Denver. But for you guys 445 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: to lose and give up seventy points to the Dolphins 446 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: in a way where literally every sports site on the 447 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: planet was like, you guys should just trade all your 448 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: players right now, you're the worst team. People treated them 449 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: like they were the little giants in the first act 450 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: of the movie. It was wild. 451 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 2: Oh, Peyton moranis is really. 452 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: Peyton Moranas is really turning this run. He's got a 453 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: real chip on his shoulder. But it's wild. It's wild 454 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: to see you guys now at four and five. It's 455 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: wild to see the Russ and Peyton thing kind of 456 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: working at times when it didn't seem like it was 457 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: earlier in the season. What do we need to make 458 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: of your Denver Broncos, Jimmy. 459 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: I think that's a tough question because the way they 460 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 2: are weak to week they're different, and the game against 461 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: the Chiefs was I don't even know how to explain that. 462 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 2: How do you surprise them and then come back and 463 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: surprise the Bills two weeks later? It's it doesn't make 464 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: any sense to me either. But when I when you 465 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 2: watch the game and watch the highlights and watch the 466 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: big plays and and try to dissect what what is happening? 467 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: Where where's it? I'm just happy to see that Russ 468 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: last week played his ass off. He's he's he He 469 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: had play after play that that worked. His he's he's 470 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: essentially running back to the to the Seahawks russ when 471 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: he when he played like Mahomes plays today, a flip here, 472 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: a flip there at the last minute, uh uh, spinning 473 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: out of tackles. But then two plays later he drops 474 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: back eight yards and gets pummeled by four highs. So 475 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: you'd never know what to expect by anybody, but everybody 476 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: is playing their ass. A plane lights out Sutton and 477 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 2: and Jerry Judy and Jerry Judy is really the wild 478 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: card in the X factor in the whole thing, I think, 479 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 2: because receiver one obviously is the most important to to 480 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: your past game, and he is he can change a 481 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: game in a second with a forty yard bomb if 482 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 2: he gets some sort of streak and he's open and 483 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 2: him between him and Sutton. But you know the other 484 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: part is that these boys are so young, these they 485 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: are barely men. And seeing interviews with Judy and Sutton 486 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: sitting side by side, and I'm just like, yeah, I 487 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 2: want to tussle their hair. They're so young, and we're 488 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: expecting them. 489 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: The expectations are a little high. 490 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're expecting these boys to play these men. It's 491 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 2: so hard to call them men because you see their 492 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 2: faces and they have baby faces, they're so young. But 493 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 2: then you see the athleticism that they can display, and 494 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 2: it is bananas. And if they both get on the 495 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 2: same page, if they both are on play either side 496 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: of the field and are able to stretch the field. 497 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: But then you gotta have the run game too, uh, 498 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: to let them be able to do what they're doing. 499 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 2: And that I think is what what Denver has missed 500 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: a lot is that they didn't have a run game. 501 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 2: The run game was is just terrible, and the Bills 502 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: gave up a lot of big runs that which left 503 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: them open to be able to stretch the field. 504 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: It was crazy that the Bills allowed that. Two things. One, 505 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: we're seeing exactly what you're talking about in Green Bay 506 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: right now, where you know, the expectations on young developing 507 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: receivers is quite high and it's gonna be hot. It's 508 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: gonna be hard for guys to meet that, especially when 509 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: maybe the quarterback isn't playing at a high level, although 510 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: it seems like Russ is rounding in shape. Secondly, and 511 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: maybe more importantly, why is it that Jerry Judy never 512 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: gets recognized as one of the funniest and best sports 513 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: names of all times. 514 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: Because there's. 515 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: It's spelled different and you don't even connect it. But 516 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: if you break it down, it's the name Jerry and 517 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: the name Judy, it'd be like, Oh, this is our 518 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver Billy Tina. It's one of the best sports names, 519 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: and no one ever talks about it. We're just like, oh, yeah, 520 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: that's a man named Jerry Judy. 521 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: Cool. They are my grandfather and his sister's names. 522 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: It's exactly right. That's that's exactly right. The only way 523 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: that name, the only way that name is better. If 524 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: he's got if his middle name is two dy fruity, 525 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: it's fuck. It's a great, great name. I yeah, I don't. 526 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: I felt the same way about the Saints game. I 527 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: just don't like it. I don't until we can get 528 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson healthy and until we hit that bye week 529 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: and can really spend some time getting Dobbs integrated. Everything 530 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: that's happening to me is impressive. It's borderline magic, and 531 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: with that sort of stuff, you just you can't I 532 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: don't know if you can expect. If it keeps happening, 533 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be the pre eminent story of the season. 534 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 1: But it's this. This will be a challenging game because 535 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: there's there's some very talented people on that side. Uh, 536 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna be on that side of the field. And 537 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be the game that I think a 538 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: lot of Vikings fans thought it would be when we 539 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: watch them four or five weeks ago. 540 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, but you know this is this is probably 541 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: the gonna be the most fun game to watch. It 542 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: should be on paper and based on the last few weeks, 543 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: it should be the most fun game of the week 544 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: to watch because of the magic that's happening on both 545 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: sides in both places at the exact same time. Uh 546 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: and and and it's hard to pick a team to 547 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: root for unless you're an enormous fan of either one 548 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: because they're both they both have this this week. Really, 549 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 2: the season depends on a win for both. It's it's 550 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 2: not gonna it can it could It could make or 551 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: break either team. 552 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: Really, yeah, you jump you you guys. Get a loss here, 553 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be immensely difficult in a crowded AFC to 554 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: climb back from four and six. The Vikings can probably 555 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: survive a loss, but conversely, if they get a win, 556 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: and go to like the the the challenge of a 557 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: loss is outmatched by the potential of a win, So 558 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: I think you have to almost look at it as 559 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: like the big part of the loss isn't just that 560 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: your record drops, it's what you lost in. You just 561 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: beat two teams that are, you know, in theory competing. 562 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: One of them will likely be competing for your wild 563 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: card spot. I don't know. I think it's gonna be 564 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: really fun. 565 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: It should be, and and you know, Russ, I think 566 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: i'd really I wish, oh man, I wish we could 567 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: go back in time. I am so mad still, even 568 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 2: even with him being a little bit successful, I'm still 569 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: so mad about the whole contract, the whole signing. It 570 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 2: felt desperate at the time, and now fast forward two years, 571 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: it looks real damn desperate based on what was going 572 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: to be available and how those how those quarterbacks are 573 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: performing today. It's just it's so maddening, and I'm I 574 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: don't I don't know where to sit with it or 575 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: where to leave with it. And I just hope that 576 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: Pat's not rote sting somewhere over this because it's such 577 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: it's such a heartbreak that he's dead and doesn't doesn't 578 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: get to watch what they're doing to this organization. 579 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: Now, Jimmy, only you could spend thirty minutes having fun. 580 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: And then right as I'm about to wrap up and 581 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: ask you for a score prediction, You're like, oh, and 582 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: by the way, I hated our most important contract, And 583 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna mention our past away owner and I'm gonna 584 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna loop my projection of his opinion into my 585 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: opinion on the quarterback. Here, here's what I'll tell you 586 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: about Russ. I love a good NFL divorce. I much 587 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 1: like a good neighborhood divorce. Yeah, I am there to 588 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: see what happens. She said he never took out the trash, 589 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: and now she left, So I want to see what 590 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: happens with the trash in that house. Is he gonna 591 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: take it out because a spite or is he just 592 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: gonna have the stinkiest house in the world. Either way 593 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: is a fun answer to me. So the Brady Belichick split, yeah, 594 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: super fun. It's super interesting. The Pete Carroll of men 595 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: that I have not enjoyed in a football sense in 596 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: the last fifteen years. Uh, the way Russ has beat 597 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: my favorite team, and the way Pete Carroll has chewed 598 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: his gum. Has put me in a position where I 599 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: savor that divorce. And but I here's what I will say. 600 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: You ready for me to climb this. You did this. 601 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: You did this by bringing up Pat You could have 602 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: just you didn't have to. You could have invoked him 603 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: anywhere earlier in the show with a this this one's 604 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: for John. You could have brought up one of the 605 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: good moments. But you had to bring his ghost into this. 606 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 2: A wow. 607 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: And one of the one of the great examples in 608 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: sports is the other russ I. And this is not 609 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: a basketball show, But I do not understand the hate 610 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: for Russell Westbrook, a guy who accomplished everybody, well, he 611 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: just was a stat stuffer. I goen a lot of 612 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: stat stuffers in the history of the NBA. None of 613 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: them averaged a triple double for like half a decade. 614 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: You're the dumbest person to ever exist in sports. What 615 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: are you doing? But because his athleticism, the decline of 616 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: his athleticism saw, you know, led to a decline in 617 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: his ability, and his style no longer fit in the 618 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: modern NBA. It got pretty ugly. People just started heaving 619 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: shots at this guy who's never been anything but a 620 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: model citizen is And so the Russ thing, like, Russ 621 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: is a weird guy, right, the team three, the stretching 622 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: on a plane, like everything that goes with it, it's 623 00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: it's weird. But I don't like everybody gets so on him. 624 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: I think he's just more willing to be open with 625 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: his weirdness. How many top of the world professional athletes 626 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: do you know that You're like, that's not a weird 627 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: person at all. Guess who I can guarantee is weird. 628 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 1: Let's just start listing them off. 629 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 2: All of them, every one of them. 630 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: At every famous comedian, you love, every top notch actor 631 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: to get to be the actual best at a thing 632 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers is probably the weirdest man on the planet, 633 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: and you need that weirdness to be like, you know, 634 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna be the greatest at a thing 635 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: that every human being wishes they were great at. 636 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 2: Every child tries to be good at. 637 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: And me, I will scale the mountain and stand to 638 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: top of it. So whenever anybody goes hard on Russ, 639 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm quick to remember how ill it is. And maybe 640 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: it's true, Maybe he's the weirdest of the weird. Maybe 641 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: he's the guy at the newdest quality who won't stop 642 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: doing cartwheels. Maybe, but I don't know. I give a 643 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: little bit longer leash than most people. 644 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 2: I it frustrates me because it feels like his weirdness 645 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: distracts them from what we do, and that's play damn 646 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 2: football and win football games. We were one of the 647 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: I think the winningest NFL team for three or four 648 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 2: years historically, and then the last couple of years have 649 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 2: really put a botch in that. But they were. They 650 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 2: win games, and whether they win the season or the 651 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 2: super Bowl or a playoff game, it doesn't matter. But 652 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 2: those sixteen games those seventeen weeks matter and now more. 653 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 2: But they matter and we win. And with him, that 654 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 2: has not been a thing. And from day one he 655 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: has been in the news and now thankfully it's starting 656 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 2: to come together and hopefully that matters for the future, 657 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 2: but for right now, four and five, you better win more. 658 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: This, ladies and gentlemen, is the ending I wanted when 659 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: I shifted away from Jimmy's terrible take. This is what 660 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: we do at the end. You're gonna hate it. Everybody 661 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: hates it, But I need a score prediction. Okay, you 662 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: gotta give me a score prediction for Sunday. 663 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 2: I got a feeling it's not gonna be too big. 664 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 2: The race to thirty one isn't happening. It's going it's 665 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 2: gonna be so stupid. It's gonna be like nineteen thirteen, 666 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 2: Denver nineteen thirteen. 667 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: That's funny because I also I see the Vikings defense 668 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: playing well, and I have a thirteen as well. I 669 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be Denver thirteen, Minnesota one hundred and 670 00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: thirty eight. Jimmy, I appreciate you, buddy, Thank you so 671 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: much for doing the show. 672 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 2: Ah you're the best side. 673 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, you're the best. Thanks again to Jimmy 674 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: for joining the show tonight, and thank you to our sponsor, 675 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: Continental Diamond. 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