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Speaker 2: There's a lot of things to discuss NFL wise, because

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Speaker 2: you got some players that are going to be released,

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Speaker 2: you got free agency, the draft is coming up. You

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Speaker 2: got a transitional tag with Daniel Jones. The NFL surprises

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Speaker 2: you every couple of years, and you know the commissioner's

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Speaker 2: exemp list.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that existed.

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Speaker 2: The Colts have placed the transition tag on Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: That means we're not going to franchise you. We're going

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Speaker 2: to let you seek other offers if you want, and

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Speaker 2: then we get to have the finals say.

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Speaker 3: If we want to keep you.

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of like saying we like you, but

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Speaker 2: at a cost, at a price because Achilles surgery in

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Speaker 2: the off season and you're not quite sure what you

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Speaker 2: were going to get. We saw that in the first

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Speaker 2: what nine to ten games of the season. It played

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Speaker 2: really well. The Colts were one of the top stories

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. Ven he gets hurt, Now are you

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Speaker 2: going to pony up how much money? And I think

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Speaker 2: he's going to make around thirty seven million dollars if

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Speaker 2: he comes back to the Colt set one year deal

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Speaker 2: for thirty seven million dollars to maybe prove yourself again

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Speaker 2: and then get another contract. The move that I'm really

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Speaker 2: curious about, or the next move for this player, is

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 3: You know, my good buddy, Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 2: Because if I look back when he first started with Arizona,

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Speaker 2: those first three years are respectable.

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Speaker 3: I'll run down the numbers here.

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Speaker 2: First year in Arizona, he completed sixty four percent of

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Speaker 2: his passes. He threw for thirty seven hundred yards, and

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Speaker 2: he had twenty touchdowns twelve interceptions.

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Speaker 3: He was the Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 2: The next year, completed sixty seven percent, threw for thirty

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Speaker 2: nine hundred yards, twenty six touchdowns, twelve interceptions, all very respectable.

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Speaker 3: The third year.

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Speaker 2: He completed almost seventy percent of his passes. He had

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Speaker 2: almost thirty eight hundred yards, twenty four touchdowns, ten interceptions.

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Speaker 3: We're good. And then they signed him to the contract extension.

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Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, it was sixty six percent completion,

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Speaker 2: twenty three one hundred yards, fourteen touchdowns, seven interceptions. Now

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Speaker 2: there are rushing yards to go along with this, And

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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, the next year it was

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Speaker 2: ten touchdowns, five interceptions, and eighteen hundred yards. Now, he

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Speaker 2: did come back in twenty twenty four almost sixty nine

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Speaker 2: percent completion, almost thirty nine hundred yards, twenty one touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: eleven interceptions. These are all respectable. So there's one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 2: four seasons that are respectable that most teams middle of

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Speaker 2: the road and lower would go sign up for that.

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Speaker 2: In fact, a few teams in the upper tier might go, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'll take that any day. Then you had last year

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Speaker 2: he completed sixty eight percent and he threw fro under

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Speaker 2: one thousand yards, six touchdowns, three interceptions. Now they of

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Speaker 2: course he was a healthy scratch, it felt like, and

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Speaker 2: they were done with him. Now the question is what

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray can you get? Can I bring back what

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Speaker 2: he was those first three years? Four of his first

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Speaker 2: six years? Very respectable, But a team like Minnesota, you

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Speaker 2: got him inside on turf, you got some receivers, we

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Speaker 2: like Kevin O'Connell as a head coach. Maybe that is

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Speaker 2: sort of his reclamation because we see this and we're

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Speaker 2: going to see this again this year, like who is

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Speaker 2: And maybe we just named the award after Sam Donald

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Speaker 2: because it's the Reclamation Award goes too, and maybe it's

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. But you have some of these players, you know,

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Speaker 2: Gino Smith might end up in Minnesota, end up starting

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Speaker 2: is Tua Tua will be a reclamation project. The question

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Speaker 2: is will he be good? Where's he going to land?

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Speaker 2: Is he going to be a starter wherever he goes?

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Speaker 2: But Kyler Murray, to me is fascinating because I think

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Speaker 2: it might have been last year where I said, I

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Speaker 2: just feel like he's going to end up on the Jets.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think that's a bad thing because I

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Speaker 2: do think Kyler Murray is better than any other quarterback

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Speaker 2: who was going to be coming out in the draft,

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Speaker 3: Maybe the Dolphins. But it feels like.

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Speaker 2: Malik Willis is the front runner there in Miami. But

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Speaker 2: if I got Kyler Murray, now, do I want him

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Speaker 2: in a big media market? Not necessarily. He doesn't put

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Speaker 2: himself out there. I don't know how approachable he is.

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Speaker 2: Does he want to do interviews? Does he want to

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Speaker 2: that negative, that cloud that's always going to be hanging

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he wants to be great.

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Speaker 2: I think he's so talented he can be great, but

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he wants to be consistently great

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Speaker 2: or better than that, a leader of a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he wants to do that, And

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Speaker 2: that's what would make me take pause. Do I think

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Speaker 2: he has the talent, Yes, but he's always had the talent.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know if he has motivation. And when

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Speaker 2: they have to put something in your contract that says

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Speaker 2: you got to study, man, that blinking light is not

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Speaker 2: going off anytime soon, and that's what would make me nervous.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he wants to study. He wants

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Speaker 2: to be the first guy in, the last guy out.

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Speaker 2: And I know it sounds like a cliche, but for him,

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Speaker 2: it shouldn't be a cliche. You got to shake this reputation,

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Speaker 2: and if not, then go play baseball. But he's had

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Speaker 2: so much talent that in high school, if you look

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Speaker 2: at his high school video, it's not fair. Even in

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Speaker 2: college he was electric. But when you get to the pros,

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Speaker 2: I don't care how good you are. I don't care

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Speaker 2: what position you're playing, you have to then put in

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Speaker 2: the time, put in the work, because now you're playing

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Speaker 2: against equals. And for Kyler Murray, I would certainly kick

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Speaker 2: the tires on him. If I'm the Jets, he's not

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Speaker 2: going to cost me a lot, or if I'm Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: he's not going to cost me a lot. But can

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Speaker 2: he give me an upgrade? And I would say yes.

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Speaker 2: But you have to have that meeting with him where

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Speaker 2: you say and you have to look him in the

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Speaker 2: eye as I once did, and you just have to

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Speaker 2: ask him, tell me how you're going to lead this team,

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Speaker 2: tell me why we shouldn't believe anything that we heard

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Speaker 2: with Arizona, and then let him tell you. I believe

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Speaker 2: he can show you, but I need him to tell

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Speaker 2: I need to hear it. I need him to actually

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Speaker 2: believe the words he's telling me. Johnnie Manziel Combine interview

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Speaker 2: where he's going to be what do.

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Speaker 3: You well, let's see what do you need? Yeah? And

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Speaker 3: then I'll ask him about his wife and then what's

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Speaker 3: his wife named?

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Speaker 4: Mary?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll ask him about Mary. They're going to love this,

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray. I just want to know, do you want

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Speaker 2: to be great? Are you willing to put in the time.

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Speaker 2: And Daniel Jones, you got a one year deal that

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Speaker 2: you're going to have to prove yourself again. You get

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Speaker 2: thirty seven million dollars, which is kind of where I

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Speaker 2: see him anyway. I think he's in that, you know,

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold three years, one hundred million. But

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Speaker 2: coming off the Achilles, somebody wants to come in and

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Speaker 2: pay a little bit more. But then the Colts they

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Speaker 2: got rid of Anthony Richardson, so you you don't have

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Speaker 2: real negotiating power. I don't think with Daniel Jones. If

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Speaker 2: he decides he wants to go someplace else, somebody gives

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Speaker 2: him a better offer, you don't want to match it,

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Speaker 2: and then the Colts are back to square one. But

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Speaker 2: the Kyler Murray situation, I think bear watching. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to Florio about this. And you know you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: pro days coming up. You're gonna get artificially inflated where

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Speaker 2: you're gonna go, oh my gosh, did you see that

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Speaker 2: guy on his pro day? Happens every year and you

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Speaker 2: got to really be cautious. You almost have to remind yourself, Okay,

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Speaker 2: let me see what he did on Saturday, not on

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Speaker 2: poll question today? Well?

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Speaker 6: I have a couple of ways to word this one.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure which one one of them feels too mean,

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Speaker 6: But the basic idea is is Kyler Murray a better

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Speaker 6: quarterback than we think? Okay, so I could say, is

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Speaker 6: Kyler Marry a better quarterback than we think? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Or no?

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Speaker 6: Very easy. The way I originally worded it was Kyler

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Speaker 6: Murray is a bad quarterback. Wow, perception or reality a

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Speaker 2: Can't say he's a bad quarterback. I think he's got

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Speaker 2: the talent to be very good, so I don't.

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Speaker 6: But what is the perception of him. The perception of

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Speaker 6: him is he's not very good, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: I think the perception is he doesn't put in the time,

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Speaker 2: he's not a leader. Maybe he doesn't care like Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 2: You might say, now he's a bad quarterback, but he

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Speaker 2: does have talent. But Kyler Murray, there is proof of

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Speaker 2: concept here, like all right, he's gone out and thrown

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of teams.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers would take those numbers right now, the Jets

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Speaker 2: would take it. I mean there's quite a Dolphins would

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Speaker 2: take it. Quite a few teams that would take those numbers.

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Speaker 2: The problem is the name attached.

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Speaker 3: To those numbers. So I wouldn't be mean spirited saying

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Speaker 3: it's a bad quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: What was the other way you worded it?

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Speaker 6: Is Kyler Murray a better quarterback than we think?

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Speaker 2: Or maybe you could say, what kind of quarterback is

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray?

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Speaker 3: Is he very good? Good? Average, stay away? Yeah, Paul,

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Speaker 3: is this.

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Speaker 7: A shared blame situation where the Arizona Cardinals they can

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Speaker 7: take the on a lot of people. They've disappointed a lot,

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Speaker 7: And it's almost like the Jets and the Cardinals are

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Speaker 7: the places quarterbacks don't really want to go. And I'm

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Speaker 7: wondering if Kyler Murray will get the same treatment Sam

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Speaker 7: Darnald got when he left that it's partially the fault

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Speaker 2: Well, it took a while before Sam proved that it

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Speaker 2: was the Jets who were the problem. And Kyler was

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Speaker 2: better with a bad team like Arizona than Sam was

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Speaker 2: with a bad team like the Jets. So Kyler Murray

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Speaker 2: is talented enough to win games. I think Sam Darnold

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Speaker 2: safe choice. He's not a difference maker where he's going

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Speaker 2: of course, Football Night in America Insider. Where do you

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Speaker 2: want to start? Which situation piques your interest the most?

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Speaker 5: Mike, Well, you're already talking about the man of the moment,

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Speaker 5: here is Dan. The Cardinals owem thirty six point eight million,

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Speaker 5: fully guaranteed for twenty twenty six. He can do what

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Speaker 5: In fact, I would suggest if he's got multiple suitors,

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Speaker 5: And you don't get into this Daniel Jones situation where

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Speaker 2: Okay, If I look at his first three years in Arizona,

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Speaker 2: six years with Kyler Murray. I mean that's that's a

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Speaker 2: good sample size. I just don't know what the perception

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Speaker 5: Well, Dan, I think the relationship with Arizona went off

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals could have done was jam that stupid ass

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Speaker 5: Two contracting Because, as I said earlier today on PFG Live,

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Speaker 5: they should have traded him. If you have those kinds

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Speaker 5: That's when you trade him to another team. Look where

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Speaker 3: I would still take a chance on it.

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Speaker 2: what did you do in an actual game situation? But

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Speaker 2: can you see, can you give me a couple of

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Speaker 2: names since you were there, where you go what they

439
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Speaker 2: did is going to elevate their draft status, and rightfully so.

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Speaker 5: Pa, I mean, you look at what Sonny Styles, the

441
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Speaker 5: Ohio State linebacker did just off the charts across the boards.

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Speaker 5: You've got the Arkansas quarterback who had eye popping numbers

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Speaker 5: and he's six four two twenty five. Those are things

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Speaker 5: that can help. But you're right, Dan, we have seen

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Speaker 5: what a guy does when it's eleven on eleven. But

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Speaker 5: doesn't mean if you.

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Speaker 2: Pause, though, Mike, when you go look at all of

448
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Speaker 2: that talent that guy has and then you go, well,

449
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Speaker 2: what did he do on Saturdays? How did Sonny Styles

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Speaker 2: not reek havoc where we go, oh my god, he's

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Speaker 2: the next Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 5: And that's a great question. Well, you got a bunch

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Speaker 5: of you got a bunch of other great defenders. Maybe

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Speaker 5: the other guys were getting the ball before he took.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, but Dan, you know, this is where

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Speaker 5: I think bad teams, dysfunctional teams get infatuated by measurables,

457
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Speaker 5: by analytics, by numbers, and they lose sight of the

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Speaker 5: eyeball test as it relates to what the guy does

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Speaker 5: on the field. Remember Vernon Golston, he was the pass

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Speaker 5: rusher from Ohio State and he ended up going a

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Speaker 5: lot higher than he should have because he had all

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Speaker 5: the measurables. But what happens when you get in a game,

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Speaker 5: what do you do to make a difference when it's

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Speaker 5: time to go out there and use those skills in

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Speaker 5: a very different setting. So the good teams get it.

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Speaker 5: The good teams know it's just one piece of a

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Speaker 5: bigger puzzle, and sometimes the bad teams put too much

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Speaker 5: emphasis on the wrong things, whether it's what a guy

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Speaker 5: does in underwear in Indianapolis, or you know, sometimes they

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Speaker 5: put too much emphasis on what a guy does in

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Speaker 5: college because you look at what he did in this

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Speaker 5: game against a MAX school and you get infatuated by that,

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Speaker 5: and you overlook what he did when it was time

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Speaker 5: to go play one of the top schools if he

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Speaker 5: didn't have a big day that day. So it's complicated,

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Speaker 5: and we see that certain teams have figured it out

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Speaker 5: and certain teams have it.

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Speaker 3: The market for Malik Willis is what.

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Speaker 5: Well a GM told me last week that the thinking

480
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Speaker 5: is between twenty to twenty five million dollars on a

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Speaker 5: two or three deal. Shorter term is better for Malik

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Speaker 5: Willis because if he goes somewhere and he plays for

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Speaker 5: a full season like he did when he got opportunities

484
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Speaker 5: in the last two years with the Packers, then he'll

485
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Speaker 5: be in line to get paid a much bigger salary.

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Speaker 5: I think there's two teams to watch who are going

487
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Speaker 5: to be the the ultimate litmus test here, the Dolphins

488
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Speaker 5: and the Cardinals, because you've got two guys from Green

489
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Speaker 5: Bay the past two years who are now calling the

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Speaker 5: shots in Miami, and John Eric Sullivan and Jeff Hafley.

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Speaker 5: They know Malik Willis, not just when we see him play.

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Speaker 5: They know him all the time. They know him in

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Speaker 5: the meeting room, they know him on the practice field.

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Speaker 5: They know what he can do. If they're not in

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Speaker 5: on Malik Willis, that's a red flag for anyone else

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Speaker 5: who doesn't know him. And with the Cardinals, Matt Lafleur

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Speaker 5: the head coach of the Packers, his brother Mike is

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Speaker 5: the head coach of the Cardinals. Now, I'd like to

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Speaker 5: think that Matt would say to Mike, Hey, man, I

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Speaker 5: know you need a quarterback. This may be a guy

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Speaker 5: that you want to take a look at, because I

502
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Speaker 5: think he can do it. I'll see Longen because when

503
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Speaker 5: he played the last two years, the numbers one hundred

504
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Speaker 5: and thirty four plus passer rating, averaging more than ten

505
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Speaker 5: yards per attempt, seventy five percent plus completion percentage. The

506
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Speaker 5: guy has been very good. But as I was cautioned

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Speaker 5: last week, you got to understand why he wasn't very

508
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Speaker 5: good in Tennessee. As part of the overall picture, the

509
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Speaker 5: Titans gave him away for a seventh round pick.

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Speaker 2: Dan, you make great points there before I let you go.

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Speaker 2: The Drew Dolman situation with the Bears. Here's a high

512
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Speaker 2: end center who just got paid last year. He's twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: He walks in, he says, I'm retiring. Do we know

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Speaker 2: anything more about this?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know when I thought about the situation last night,

516
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Speaker 5: and the Bears could try to seek four million back

517
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Speaker 5: from him because he got a six million dollar signing

518
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Speaker 5: bonus on a three year deal. Technically he hasn't earned

519
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Speaker 5: that four million in the collective bargaining agreement. Lets the

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Speaker 5: Bears go get it if they choose to. And I

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Speaker 5: thought last night, when you look at what he did

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Speaker 5: on the first year of his contract, he had a

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Speaker 5: career seison, played every snap in the regular season, started

524
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Speaker 5: nineteen games if we include the playoffs. Pro bowler, you know,

525
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Speaker 5: was he maybe looking for an adjustment and the Bears

526
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Speaker 5: said no, and this is part of a broader leverage play.

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Speaker 5: And I poked around a little on that. My understanding

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Speaker 5: is that's not the case. He's just done. And nobody

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Speaker 5: knows their body better than the players. Five years of

530
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Speaker 5: wear and tear. And you know, I say this all

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Speaker 5: the time with anyone. Remember when Vonte Davis retired during

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Speaker 5: a game, Like the moment that you're no longer willing

533
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Speaker 5: to go out on the field and subject yourself to

534
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Speaker 5: that physical toll, the risk that happens on every snap.

535
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Speaker 5: The moment you're not willing to do it, then you

536
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Speaker 5: shouldn't And I respect it. Whenever a guy decides he's

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00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 5: had enough, and by all indications, Drew Dolmen decided he'd

538
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Speaker 5: had enough.

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Speaker 2: Vonte Davis retiring at halftime. Though that feels like a

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Speaker 2: thirty for thirty, Mike, Well, it.

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Speaker 5: Was a hell of a story when it happened, But

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Speaker 5: again the moment that you don't want to do it

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Speaker 5: for whatever reason. It takes so much to go out

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Speaker 5: there and subject yourself to that. And I think if

545
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Speaker 5: you're out there and you don't want to be, you're

546
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Speaker 5: just asking for an injury, You're asking for a bad outcome.

547
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Speaker 5: You've got to be all in to survive, not just thrive,

548
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Speaker 5: but survive in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: What's the Combine's future.

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Speaker 5: Well, fortunately, guys like Jerry Jones have realized the prospect

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Speaker 5: of making it a traveling road show, which was a

552
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Speaker 5: hot topic five or six years ago. That's died down

553
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Speaker 5: because we already see coaches not go. If this thing

554
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Speaker 5: was less convenient than it is in Indianapolis, and it's

555
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Speaker 5: perfect in Indianapolis. Everything is close together, the city isn't

556
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Speaker 5: overrun by fans, The coaches, the scouts. They they can

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Speaker 5: get to where they need to be quickly. If it's

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Speaker 5: in La or something like that, you got to drive

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Speaker 5: two hours here and two hours you'll have fewer coaches go.

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Speaker 5: I think what happened Dan a decade or so ago,

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Speaker 5: it felt like the Combine was on a trajectory to

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Speaker 5: become a massive offseason tent poll for the NFL. I

563
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Speaker 5: think we've gotten to the point where it kind of

564
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Speaker 5: is what it is. You know, last year on the

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Speaker 5: Saturday for the quarterback, receiver and running back workouts average

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Speaker 5: four hundred and eighty four thousand viewers. That's nothing as

567
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Speaker 5: relates to what the NFL usually does. So I think

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Speaker 5: they recognize it for what it is. It started as

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Speaker 5: a way to get everybody together so you could do

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Speaker 5: medical examination of all the players in one spot so

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Speaker 5: you don't have to drag them all over the country

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Speaker 5: and getting poke, poked and prodded here and there. I

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Speaker 5: think people recognize it for what it isn't and they

574
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Speaker 5: recognize it for what it is, and I think it's

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Speaker 5: going to stay in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: Mike Florio's latest novel, Big Shield, available. Of course, it's

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Speaker 3: It's on air.

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Speaker 5: It is.

580
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Speaker 3: Oh, it is about the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been seven months. What the hell I mean?

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Speaker 3: You're not worried. God, you're not worried.

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Speaker 5: I'm not worried.

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Speaker 5: They might be thank you, Mike and the NBA, thank

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Speaker 2: Be careful if you're watching with children, because apparently Marvin

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Speaker 2: has been known to flip people off. He gave a

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Speaker 2: double bird yesterday and we're still feeling those repercussions.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Martin, I've learned from my mistakes. It won't happen again.

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Speaker 4: Or or Mario says something to me that.

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Speaker 2: Just you're guaranteeing that you will not flip off this

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Speaker 2: audience again.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna try my hardest, guys, But as.

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Speaker 2: You said, all of those people who have been mean

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Speaker 2: to me about my small hands, and don't you think

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Speaker 2: it's ironic that I flip them off with my small hands?

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Speaker 2: I go no, I don't think it's ironic at all.

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Speaker 2: I think it's wrong the full circle moment. Yes, you can't,

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Speaker 2: it's not the circle of wife. Just don't do that again.

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Speaker 2: You flip people off Scottie Scheffler, Rory McElroy, the PGA

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Speaker 2: on NBC and Peacock coming up, we'll play the Reclamation game.

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Speaker 3: Which quarterback? Who is going to be this year's Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 3: We'll have that.

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Speaker 2: We'll actually have a draft. Is that what you want

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Speaker 2: to do? That will do a snake draft?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Quick, two round snake draft.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right?

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Speaker 2: Eight seven to seven to three DP Show operator Tyler

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Speaker 2: sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. Are Kyler Murray?

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Speaker 2: Poll questions today kind of dominated the first two hours.

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Speaker 2: What are we going to go with the final hour

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Speaker 2: of the program, Seaton? Well, I have a.

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Speaker 6: Few other options here from topics. We haven't really got

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Speaker 6: to one off of Todd's topic. But more legit TGL

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Speaker 6: or liv?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Well, well, I would say live is more legitimate than

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Speaker 2: tea TGL?

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Speaker 3: Is it though?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Because now they're playing four rounds. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: they're doing the music anymore. I do our short, Yeah, don't.

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Speaker 2: I think they can still wear shorts.

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Speaker 5: But you know.

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Speaker 2: I've played at a country club where you have to

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Speaker 2: wear long pants every single time you play, no matter

638
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Speaker 2: what the temperature is, it'll be ninety five and you

639
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Speaker 2: got to wear long pants.

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Speaker 3: I don't play it very often.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I get invited, but I don't want to

642
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Speaker 2: play because golf's hard enough. I don't want to be

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Speaker 2: out there in ninety five degree weather with my long

644
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Speaker 2: pants on. I need to show these legs. You know,

645
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Speaker 2: that's going to be a distraction to the people that

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Speaker 2: I'm playing with. They focus on that instead of their

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Speaker 2: golf game.

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Speaker 9: Yes, todd to a certain extent, it's already a snooty sport.

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Speaker 9: You gotta add you gotta wear pants even if it's

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Speaker 9: one hundred degrees.

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Speaker 3: On top of that, we get it, you're better than

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Speaker 3: everyone else.

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Speaker 7: That's golf.

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Speaker 2: Also, when you go into the grill area, have to

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Speaker 2: take off your hat, you have to have your sure

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Speaker 2: tail tucked in. Now, there are golf courses in America

657
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Speaker 2: where you can basically not wear anything, and it's all

658
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: men's club and they don't care what you wear and

659
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: don't wear. Although I don't think I want to play

660
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Speaker 2: golf where I'm not wearing anything.

661
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, but the kiss of death. If you ever

662
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 7: go to a golf course and see someone walking out

663
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 7: with jeans on, that may be worse than anything. You

664
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Speaker 7: cannot wear jeans whilst golfing.

665
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Speaker 2: No you can't, you cannot, no, no, no, but I've

666
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: seen it before cutoffs, yeah, certain golf courses.

667
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Speaker 3: But yeah.

668
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Speaker 2: The Bayhill Invitation on the Arnold Palmer is coming up

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Speaker 2: this weekend on NBC and Peacock, which is where you

670
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Speaker 2: can find this program. Download the app if you haven't

671
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Speaker 2: done so. The pole question for the final hour Seaton

672
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Speaker 2: did you tell me?

673
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Speaker 3: And I forgot?

674
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Speaker 6: Well, you kind of poop pooed the live versus TG.

675
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Speaker 6: I'll put that up there any kay, just to see.

676
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Speaker 6: We also had another topic this morning that we haven't

677
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 6: really gotten around to, but it was controversial the donut

678
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 6: should be a breakfast food or dessert.

679
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 7: It's breakfast.

680
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: Why you just get something quick, you start your morning,

681
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: you be a little energy, and you're on your way.

682
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we couldn't it just be sort of universally loved

683
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 6: throughout the day. Why is it? Why is the donut

684
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 6: of breakfast foot? It's more desserty than anything else you

685
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 6: could think of.

686
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: Well, you don't have dessert at lunch, and if you're

687
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: gonna have dessert dessert at dinner, it's not gonna be

688
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: a donut make dessert lunch again, is that what I

689
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 2: would say? Your donut is your breakfast. It's just something quick.

690
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 2: You don't have to have somebody whip up eggs and bacon.

691
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: Its just like heh, grab a donut, Get what todd.

692
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 9: A donut should not be breakfast, I understand it. Or

693
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 9: you grab it and you think of dunkin or whatever

694
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 9: and you get your coffee, whatever. But if a donut

695
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Speaker 9: was shaped like a piece of chocolate cake, none of

696
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Speaker 9: us would consider it, Oh, what do you have for breakfast?

697
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: Cake? So you're saying the shape of the donut is

698
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: the reason why we don't embrace.

699
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Speaker 4: It, as I think a lot of people see a donut.

700
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Speaker 9: We're so used to being like a type of maybe

701
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Speaker 9: a breakfast thing. But if the donut was shaped more

702
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 9: like a dessert where we had the same kind of

703
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 9: ingredients as desserts, So it's kind of insane because it's

704
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 9: shaped like a circle with a hole missing, all of

705
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 9: a sudden, it's breakfast. But if it was shaped like

706
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 9: a cake, it'd be like, what are you eating cake

707
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 9: for breakfast? For even if it was made of the

708
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 9: same exact ingredients but not shaped like a circle.

709
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Speaker 6: Slow Down Take arguably the best oriantids ever had on

710
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 6: this show.

711
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Speaker 3: Support Take a breath.

712
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Speaker 7: Yes, a couple things. If we were putting donuts in

713
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Speaker 7: a lane, are they a breakfast item or a treat?

714
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Speaker 3: I would say they're a breakfast item.

715
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Speaker 7: I look back at the history of donuts, which I

716
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 7: always have on my screen at the ready. It was

717
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 7: more of a daytime treat to have with coffee and

718
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 7: tea than a breakfast item back when it was originated.

719
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're having coffee and tea in the morning

720
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: and that could be breakfast.

721
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 7: Early donuts were an all day treat.

722
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: I'm not a donutter Like, I'm not big on we

723
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: had donuts brought in yesterday.

724
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Speaker 3: I'm like, eh, you know, yes.

725
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Speaker 9: DoD I don't think you're going to the right dotor

726
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 9: like if there's a Krispy Kream. There are some donuts

727
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 9: shops that are like they are to take that real seriously,

728
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 9: some'mores donuts and.

729
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 3: Apple for ther donuts.

730
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Speaker 9: There's like fifty different types of donuts in some of

731
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 9: these places.

732
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Speaker 2: I remember when Krispy Kream opened up a store and

733
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: people went crazy crazy, and I went.

734
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Speaker 4: What are you doing?

735
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 6: There were lines like miles long waiting to get into

736
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Speaker 6: Krispy Kreme to get a box of donuts.

737
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: I know, crazy.

738
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Speaker 9: You know what's signed? They didn't say next to Krispy

739
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Speaker 9: kreame come join us for breakfast and have some donuts.

740
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 9: I'm pretty sure that I'd say, we're opening six or

741
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 9: ten am for breakfast.

742
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Speaker 4: Here's the donuts.

743
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: It's just Krispy Cream donuts. I got it. You fired

744
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: up today man with your donuts. Yeah.

745
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: I'm not big on but if I'm gonna grat I

746
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 2: have half a one. But then it drives Polly crazy

747
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: because if I cut it in half, and then it'd

748
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: be like, just take the whole thing, take it with you,

749
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: and I go, I don't want the whole thing. Then

750
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Speaker 2: I'll eat the whole thing. Any other questions, any other

751
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: pole questions, any other thoughts before you get Oh, I

752
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: mentioned this yesterday. I come in and I say to Paulie,

753
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: I said, hey, I don't know if you know Charles

754
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: Barkley's got an interesting job during March Madness. So I

755
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: don't tell Paul. Go through the entire show, and Paul

756
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 2: sends me an email and he goes, hey, by the way,

757
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley is going to be working with Dick vy Tal.

758
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Speaker 2: He's going to be doing one of the first four

759
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: games on True TV, And I go, damn it, I

760
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: was going to tell you that he was going to

761
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Speaker 2: do this with Dicky V and Brian Anderson. So Charles

762
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: is going to do a game with Dick EV and

763
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Speaker 2: that'll be great. It'll be awesome, baby, True TV. That'll

764
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Speaker 2: be that opening Tuesday of the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 9: Yes, uh, which is interesting because Dick mikeel always says

766
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 9: everything is awesome and Barkley always says everything is terrible.

767
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 9: Accord it to Frank Callendo's a quession. So you got

768
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Speaker 9: awesome and terrible. The dichotomy is fascinating.

769
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Speaker 2: So Charles got a fun gig there. That'd be interesting

770
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Speaker 2: to hear him do a game. Let me see, is

771
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Speaker 2: there anything else that needs to be mentioned? And we'll

772
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Speaker 2: play the Reclamation Project game. So the idea is to

773
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Speaker 2: choose the quarterback who will have the most success with

774
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Speaker 2: the team that didn't draft him heading into next season. Okay,

775
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: So that's a player who has already improved but can

776
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: still have more of an upward trajectory. Now, Daniel Jones

777
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: said to be a free agent or well ish, but

778
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: I think he I'm not going to put him in

779
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 2: the game. Okay, Malik Willis, I'll put him in the game.

780
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray and Tua they'll be in the game. So

781
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, Malik Willis. See Mac Jones isn't available, but

782
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: he could be, could be. We'll put him in. Tua,

783
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, Davis Mills, spent, Spencer Rattler, Tanner McKee who

784
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: was in Bad News Bears. I think no, No, he wasn't.

785
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: Sounds like a quarterback, Joe Milton. Joe Milton.

786
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Speaker 6: So I'm literally looking at Joe Milton right now to

787
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 6: see where where is he going to fall in this

788
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Speaker 6: because I am taking him first.

789
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Uh how about we use arm length.

790
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: That'll be who goes first here?

791
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Speaker 7: Yes, Paul is Aaron Rodgers available in this draft?

792
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 3: Is he a free agent?

793
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 7: Yes? I think I think he would be in this draft.

794
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 3: All right?

795
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 6: See reclamation project worthy though, I mean.

796
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I'm gonna I'm going to

797
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: rule no. I'm going to say no that he is

798
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: not a reclamation project. These other ones are. He's a

799
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Speaker 2: squeeze one more year out of them, the project.

800
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 3: That's all. That's just a farewell tour.

801
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, Malik Willis, Mack Jones, Ta Anthony Richardson, Davis Mills,

802
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler, Tanner McKee and he's the Eagles backup quarterback.

803
00:39:59,000 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: And Joe Milton.

804
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: All right, we have to throw another one in there

805
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: because there's five of us and we're gonna have so

806
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: can he picket Will Levis, Trey Lance, Zac Wilson. So

807
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 2: it's a two round draft. The shortest arms Todd or

808
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: see Paul your fall. Yeah, Paul you go.

809
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 7: First, man. I don't think they're gonna let mac Jones go.

810
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 7: I have to go with Malik Willis as my number

811
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Speaker 7: one draft.

812
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 3: All right. Next on the list would be that would

813
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Speaker 3: be Seaton at.

814
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Speaker 6: Four for four. I am taking Joseph Joe Milton because

815
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Speaker 6: I love that dude.

816
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Speaker 3: That brings us to the massively long armed Fritzy.

817
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna take Trey Lance.

818
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

819
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Speaker 9: I think there's still something about him that we haven't

820
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 9: heard the last of Trey Lance and his ability is

821
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Speaker 9: under centered.

822
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: Hey, yes, Paul, is Russell Wilson on the board if

823
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: you want to put him on the board, just check.

824
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: You can get Zach Wilson, not Russell. Who would you

825
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: rather have better? Wis I'm gonna take Kyler Murray Junior

826
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 2: the third, now the incredibly long armed Marvin Prince, Zach Wilson.

827
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: Then it comes back to me. I am going to

828
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 2: go with Chew a tonga Iyola. Next up Tom's.

829
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 6: If it's a snake draft? Does doesn't Marvin pick twice?

830
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: Oh?

831
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: Oops?

832
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, so sorry, Dan, you have to give that pick.

833
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 3: Okay, I give that pick.

834
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 4: Oh no, you can keep yours.

835
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 3: Oh you don't want to.

836
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going Spencer Rattler, Okay, Todd, I'm.

837
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 9: Gonna grab Anthony Richardson.

838
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: Okay, Paul, I'm gonna go with Gardener. No, it's seating,

839
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: it's Seaton. I'm gonna go with Gardener. Now I'll take

840
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: mac Jones.

841
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 3: All right. We don't know if he's going to be available.

842
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 6: We don't know if he's but that's someone's going him.

843
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: You're betting on him, Paul having to go.

844
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 7: With Gardner Minshew with the Chiefs.

845
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: Okay, anybody interesting who didn't get selected. Davis Mills is

846
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: pretty good, Will Levis, Yeah, Will Levis, Kenny Pickett.

847
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 6: Sam Howell, Ow Tanner McKee.

848
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: To no one did.

849
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 6: When we're Stanford quarterback, I mean there's enough for one

850
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 6: more round.

851
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm good.

852
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 2: I'm good. Who is going to be this year's Sam Donald?

853
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: Who is going My money is on none of them? Well,

854
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 2: you'd have to win the super Bowl, right exactly?

855
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

856
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And maybe that's not fair to say who's going

857
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: to be this year Sam Donald? Because any of these

858
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: guys going to be a Super Bowl winning quarterback and

859
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: the answer would be no.

860
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 6: Hey, this year's Indiana. They did well, Yeah, Indiana was

861
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 6: this year's Indiana? Yeah, Yeah, Sam Donald's gonna be this

862
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 6: year Sam Donald.

863
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, I was only going off of Sam Donald

864
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 4: with the vikings, like, you know what, he'll be a

865
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl player, have a really good year. I wasn't

866
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 4: thinking about winning the super Bowl because if that's the case,

867
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 4: I didn't want any part of this draft.

868
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's the thing.

869
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: You can't say it's the Sam Donald Award because Sam

870
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl. If this was Sam Donald in

871
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: Minnesota or Baker Mayfield in Tampa, then that would be different.

872
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, the super Bowl attachment there, that's a pretty

873
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: lofty goal.