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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio. I still get excited when that intro

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Speaker 1: that intro come in, I get hyped. You see them hyped.

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Speaker 1: I actually think that podcast intro songs are so important.

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Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, they are because they get they do

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Speaker 1: get you hiphed and does a really good job at it.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you feel it and if it's

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Speaker 1: It's like probably fifty sixty five now, something like five

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Speaker 1: in the crazy part is actually didn't really know each

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Speaker 1: other before the podcast. Yeah, not not well, not well,

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Speaker 1: not well enough, not well. And look at you now, Um,

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Speaker 1: we have a huge episode for you today. But before

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Speaker 1: we really dive into our special guest who's sitting here,

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna introduce you because you're gonna freak out

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Speaker 1: when you hear who it is. Yeah, we're going to

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Speaker 1: freak out, Ashley. I'm in studio. It's been a while

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Speaker 1: out here with you. When you're here, Um, you're wearing

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Speaker 1: polka dots and and like it looks like a fuffy top,

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Speaker 1: a fluffy crop top. Yeah yeah, is it? What kind

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Speaker 1: of mood you going for today? Well, Amy's assistant just

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Speaker 1: gave me a nice compliment, saying it was very clueless,

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Speaker 1: very throwback to the nineties with a modern twist. So

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Speaker 1: I'm going to keep it with that, even though I'm

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Speaker 1: not even sure I'm sold on my own outfit. Maybe

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Speaker 1: very silver stone, Yeah, yeah, Oh, you had a moment

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Speaker 1: of silver stone at the I Heart Awards last year

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Speaker 1: of those divorced I told you there was something up there.

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Speaker 1: She's divorced though, Yeah, I told you it felt like

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Speaker 1: they were on the rocks. Actually, you know way too

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Speaker 1: much about people in pop culture, way before they know

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Speaker 1: it about themselves, or maybe they already know it. Um, Ashley,

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Speaker 1: the life for you is good, so good. What's the

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Speaker 1: coolest update that we could share with everybody? Well, I

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Speaker 1: did say yes to a dress. Yeah, It's like it

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Speaker 1: was like a huge note moment. But of course now

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Speaker 1: I'm like, not one if it's just gonna be the

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Speaker 1: very devash. It's so devash. My wedding planner insists everybody

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Speaker 1: has two dresses these days. Yeah, shout out to Troy Williams. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But I always wasn't sure if I wanted to dresses

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Speaker 1: on a reception dress. It's a little more torely, a

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Speaker 1: to I don't know, we'll see that's a thing. Yeah. Actually,

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Speaker 1: here here's my advice to you. Stop going to these appointments.

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Speaker 1: I have to go to the appointments of my wanting

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Speaker 1: planner plans, and you only get to try on wedding

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Speaker 1: dresses once, like at one period of your life. You

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Speaker 1: But the more and more you try on, the more

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Speaker 1: really but it's just one day, right, why not. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not, like, honestly, not that crazy, but Bradzilla.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, not say I'm going to go

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Speaker 1: All right, it's an it's at she's back in the

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Speaker 1: studio again. Since you've been here, you've proven to be

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Speaker 1: a huge role in Bachelor of Paradise. I mean you

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Speaker 1: I mean I've just been open and like in this experience,

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Speaker 1: well so far. You are a part of UM what

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Speaker 1: we're calling on this podcast right now, crazy love dynamics

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Speaker 1: trying to like dynamics pagons. Yeah, they're all over the

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Speaker 1: place with some I can't quite capture. UM. And on

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Speaker 1: about your own so we don't talk behind your back,

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Speaker 1: but we want to highlight Tia, Chris Crystal. Well, you

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Speaker 1: which dissolved in Monday's episode. UM and it was. It

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Speaker 1: Can we talk about it? Okay? So first we left

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Speaker 1: off last week Chris uh tells Chris tells Tea that

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Speaker 1: then we resumed this Monday's episode with Tea confronting him

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Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, I am still interested in you.

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Speaker 1: She's like, but you told me you were all in.

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Speaker 1: You know you're going to kiss a bunch of people,

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Speaker 1: but they don't tell you don't say you're all in.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's what I need, clear toy. Here you say

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Speaker 1: it's acceptable in paradise, but there's for acceptable if you

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Speaker 1: But but I watched you, and this is where you're relatable.

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Speaker 1: You are into Kenny. You're part of this crazy love

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Speaker 1: that's more. That's bettering still to see who he would

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Speaker 1: he had already Why and did Deem get so pummeled

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Speaker 1: last year for what I felt like Kenny was kind

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Speaker 1: of doing, Like what does he think? That's a great question,

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Speaker 1: but the same thing. Calton was getting the same criticism

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Speaker 1: couldn't go and kiss someone. Yeah. So I'm typically like that,

422
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 1: like in my normal life, completely like that in this environment,

423
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, I'm here to find somebody like I

424
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 1: might kiss him and I might have feelings, like it

425
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: might turn ignite something for me. And so that's sort

426
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 1: of where that came from. And then I was like, Oh,

427
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 1: he's a good kisser, Ben, you must have kissed girls

428
00:21:54,720 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 1: that you didn't have feelings for. Yeah, cute or nobody. Okay,

429
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 1: that's the one thing nobody that goes on the show

430
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: is not is unattractive, right, it's your chemistry. Yeah. I mean,

431
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 1: I'm kissing girls on week one that I don't really

432
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: know yet, and there's that element of expectation, um of

433
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: awkward silence of just let's make out, like I don't know,

434
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: but yes, a hundred percent, Like there is that level

435
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: of kissing people that maybe you don't you just don't

436
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: know where you're at with it. The difference in Paradise

437
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: though a little bit like this in The Bachelor Bachelor,

438
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: but there's these moments where you're kissing somebody and you

439
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: have to walk back into the room full of the

440
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 1: people that you just either kissed earlier that day maybe

441
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 1: have feelings with what's that moment? Like, I never kissed

442
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: multiple people in one day, so I don't know, but

443
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 1: I don't think it was weird. Kenny kissed three people

444
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: in the same cocktail part. I did think it was weird.

445
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: I actually didn't know that that happened. What how do

446
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 1: you feel about that? I mean, I was fine with it.

447
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 1: I feel like, like I said out, I feel like

448
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: at that stage, he was probably just trying to figure out,

449
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: like who do I have the most chemistry with, or

450
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: who do I actually want to pursue or so I

451
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: think he was still doing. I know it is wacky,

452
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: it is, it is weird. We we go back to

453
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: the producer Amy's question earlier. This is this is something

454
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: a phenomenon in the world that I don't get. It's

455
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: the Sean Booth thing that I talked about. Some people

456
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: can get away with anything and other people can't get

457
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: away with Well, that's Bean did the same thing. Yeah.

458
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: My argument last week was like, how is it different

459
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: if Colton goes on a date with Tea and then

460
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: he maybe wants to go on a date with somebody else,

461
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: But then Kendall can go back and forth between kissing

462
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: John and Joe at the same time. Crazy, Chris, I

463
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: am just like, I don't even know what I'm gonna

464
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: say when I meet him, because Dean got hummel for

465
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 1: basically doing what Chris is doing where he's like, Tia,

466
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: I like you. How about the week before when he's

467
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: like Tia, I will never hurt you. I think Chris

468
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: is getting pummel. Minutes ago. We also didn't expect any

469
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: more from Chris, like knowing what he knew from the

470
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: Bachelor at right, I was. I was doing a little

471
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: pre research and this is just a side comment. Um,

472
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 1: Chris is giving life advice on his instagram. No, no,

473
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 1: if anybody out there wants to go to his instagram

474
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: to get life advice, just to defend him really fast. Actually,

475
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: you know, I would like to just like throw people

476
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: under the bus. You really like to defend give another side.

477
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: The girls like Analye but especially Kendall said he's super cool.

478
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: I know you one of my closest friend. But I

479
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: know you girls say that, but like, I'd like to

480
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: see otherwise. Then I'd like to hang out with him

481
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 1: for a couple of hours past. What I think is

482
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: interesting is that Chris I don't know. Okay, so let's

483
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: let's break it down. At least you're the perfect person

484
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: to answer this, Why are you so forgiving of Kenny

485
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: in this situation? I think we were. It was just

486
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: because it was so new, and I mean, he he

487
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: was the wild card that night. He had five girls

488
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 1: that he basically, we're going home. He could, I mean,

489
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 1: he was really narrowing it down to three of us,

490
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: but like there was five girls who were kind of

491
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: who's going to stay, who's going to go? So I

492
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: feel like he has a pass if now, like right

493
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: after he gives me the rose, he's all of a

494
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: sudden making out with somebody else. Maybe that's where I

495
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: would feel definitely is that acceptable? Astley? I think I'm

496
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: trying to get a little bit annoying. I've been a

497
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: fan for four years of this Paradise show, right, three years,

498
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 1: and uh, and I'm just starting to get a hang

499
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: of it. M Ashley, Yeah, how are you sleeping at night? Um?

500
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: Pretty good? Pretty well? Jared, I officially moved in no

501
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: way that we weren't planning on it, But then we

502
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: are like looking at our calendars, were like, it's so

503
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: ridiculous rest to be paying for two rents when it's

504
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: just the idea that we thought we should be living

505
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: apart scratistically you weren't close and I know why. Oh no,

506
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: oh no, we couldn't. And then like he was going

507
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: to sleep over like five days a week, so it

508
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: just didn't make any sense. So he moved in. And

509
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: the wedding planning is so much smoother now that you

510
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: can sit together at night and talk about it everything.

511
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: Color schemes, no, and we haven't done color schemes yet. No,

512
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: it's flowers right now. When we came back with a

513
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: dress the other night, after I said yes to one,

514
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: I was like, I just want to tell you about it.

515
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: I want to tell you And what do you say? Well,

516
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to know. Yeah, you know you're gonna

517
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: be your bridesmaids, Like I don't think mean, I like,

518
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: I want to be separated from them the day of, though,

519
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: how I can see that. That's the smartest thing I've

520
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: ever heard. I've been a bridesmaid like twelve times. Yeah,

521
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: because you're so cool. Yes, actually, and actually you do.

522
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: I've noticed you do that. You take intentional time for yourself,

523
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 1: which I think is really important, and so on your weddingday,

524
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: why would't you do that? I also know why you

525
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: and Jared um moved in together because he can't stay away. Yeah,

526
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: you have an amazing Sleep number bed and he can't

527
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: stay out of it. I get it. I do um.

528
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: I have Sleep number bed also. I enjoy it very much.

529
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: There's never been a better time to come to a

530
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: Sleep number store where all the beds are on sale

531
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: during the biggest sale of the year. The Sleep Number

532
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: three sixty smart bed lets you choose the comfort and

533
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: support that's right for you. It adjust on each side,

534
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: so it's the perfect bed for couples. Yeah, it's really good.

535
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: He's like down to have it a lot harder than

536
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: night I could have it good lord anyway, anyway, you

537
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: can actually feel how it concours your neck, shoulders, backs

538
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: and hips and for more proper spinal moment. And what

539
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: Ashley is actually talking about there is Jared sleep number.

540
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: It's a lot harder than actually he's Jared sleeps at

541
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: what What's What's how hard? Does Jared like it? Actually?

542
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: Sleeping Sunday six? I know? Actually Sleep Number sleep number

543
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: three sixty smart beds are more effortlessly comfortable. They sent

544
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: your every move and automatically adjust to keep you sleeping

545
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: blissfully through the night. Does your bed. Do that not

546
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: before I got a Sleep Number come in during the

547
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: biggest eal the year where all beds are on sale,

548
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: plus say on the new Sleep Number three sixty limited

549
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Speaker 1: edition smart bed now only only now now only through

550
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Speaker 1: Labor Day. You'll only find Sleep Number any of the

551
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Speaker 1: fifty sleep Number stores nationwide. There are more than five

552
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty sleep Number stores nationwide. Just visit sleep

553
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: number dot com to find the store nearest to you. Actually,

554
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: that was good. That was perfect. It was it was

555
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: very good. I remember what I was going to say earlier.

556
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: Chris made his Instagram private last night. Really yeah, all

557
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: the hate? What do you do there? Because sorry, he

558
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: didn't do any like he did bad things here? Why

559
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: why the three of us sitting here? I I read

560
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: I read through one of his Instagram put pictures and

561
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: it was like saying, note all the haters or something

562
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: like that. People do that all the time, that that

563
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: haters thing. I'm not listening to all this, you know, critics.

564
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: Don't you think you should listen to critics a little bit?

565
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: I mean, is anybody in here like and I'm not

566
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: saying just Chris specifically, all of us in this world

567
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: who have messed up on TV multiple times. We've we've

568
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: all done it. We've we've all been there. We've all

569
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: had things that we've said or done or whatever in

570
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: life that people have been like that wasn't smart, that

571
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: was weird, that rubbed me the wrong way. Don't you

572
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: think at some level we should listen to critics. I mean,

573
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: I take it and I try to grow from it.

574
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: But I also take it sometimes with a grain of salt,

575
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: and I also try to either delete those comments or whatever,

576
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: just because I feel like you don't need to dwell

577
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: in that like hatred and negativity. Some can be constructive

578
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: and then some of them can just be straight evil. Yeah,

579
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: so so then you you make it private, so like

580
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: he does to probably just take a you know, a fresh,

581
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: you know, deep breath and re ax and get away

582
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: from the critics for a little bit. Is that probably

583
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: he's had enough? Probably? Yeah, you know him take a

584
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: little time. Is that a smart move? I don't. I mean,

585
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know exactly what he's thinking.

586
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll have to contact him later, text tell him

587
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: Almost Famous Podcast is worried about him. Um, so we

588
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: have a couple of guests coming on analysis in studio.

589
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: Before I do that, I just want to give a

590
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: quick segment recap, a crick recap of this week's Bachelor

591
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: in Paradise episodes kind of run through the couples where

592
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: they're at, what's going on. We have Tia, Chris Crystal

593
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: in this crazy love dynamic. We have Joe the grocery guy,

594
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: Kindle and Leo. That one. That one's a tough one

595
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: on what is she thinking? What is she thinking? We

596
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: have analyze with Bibiana, your arch nemesis, and Jacqueline. She's

597
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: just on she's waiting on the on the line. So

598
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: a second John and Jubilee. John picks Jubilee over Caroline.

599
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: Colton comes back to life, says Tia, I want you

600
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: been the biggest storyline. You're clapping. You have faith in

601
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: this couple. We'll see how this goes. Um. All right,

602
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: let's bring uh your kissing cousin onto the podcast. Bibiana,

603
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: are you out there? I am I'm here. I'm here, Hey, baby,

604
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: I I miss you so much and I watched this show.

605
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: Oh I missed you to last I'm you know what

606
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: kind of suff they left me right before you got there?

607
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: I know I was so excited to see you. I

608
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: had when I saw you on Instagram while we weren't

609
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 1: down there, I was like, no, how is she at

610
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: home already? So wrong? Uh? It happened so fast, Bibiana,

611
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: we all love you. Here's She's so good, She's so good.

612
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: You're fiery, just fiery. Um. We're just recapping this week's episodes.

613
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: We're talking about the dynamics in Paradise today. We also

614
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: want to give a quick shout out to somebody that

615
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: was on Winter Games with us. Kevin gives his road

616
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: to Astard, which seems like a pretty legit relationship and

617
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: one of the most interesting ones that I want to

618
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: start this conversation out with since we have you and

619
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: analyze here in studio. UM Jordan's and Jinna. Was Jordan's

620
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: reaction as as intense as it seemed on TV? UM,

621
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: Were you on his side or not? I want to

622
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: hear from the both of you. I think it was

623
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: as intense as you saw it play out. But I

624
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: think what happened was I think he he sort of

625
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: snapped and then took it further than he even wanted

626
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: to take it. I think he was like, oh shoot,

627
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: I just said that didn't, you know, just kind of

628
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: snapped and didn't say what he actually was feeling. Um,

629
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't a very mature or honorable moment. I feel like,

630
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: and I think he felt bad about it and then

631
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: was like, oh, shoot, how do I fix this? But

632
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: that's and that's exactly why I talked to him, because

633
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: I felt like he was not He's not he's He's

634
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: a better person than that. Josh Murray had a similar

635
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: situation that freaked Amanda out and then she was like,

636
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, should not be taking this relationship so

637
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: seriously and well, and they got engaged. So it'll be

638
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: interesting to see how Jenna does eventually probably take Jordan

639
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: back after that huge I'm Sorry in the beach when

640
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: she walked away from the I'm Sorry in the sand,

641
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,239
Speaker 1: I felt like she was on her way to forgive him.

642
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: She was like, Oh, it's a really that guy, he's

643
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: got my heart. I feel like he's just what happens

644
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: to Jordan when he spirals. He just keeps going and

645
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: then there's like no coming back until I wake up

646
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: the next day and then start fresh. Yeah, I agree,

647
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: it's not good when you're on TV. No, No, that's

648
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: that's that's baby. He needs he needs a baby talk

649
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: talk there for that. That's the crazy part. I think.

650
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was the time that I

651
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: was maybe talking to Kenny. Can we reach what happened there? Yeah, definitely,

652
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think for the anybody else, yeah,

653
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: it was. It's a lot going on at once. UM,

654
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: so Jordan's Here's okay, I have so much talk about

655
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: the chicken guy. David is one of my favorites on

656
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: the podcast. He's one of my favorite people just in

657
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: life because he's so intriguing to me. He's the guy

658
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: I just don't get him, and I love to not

659
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: get him. Can you believe at my times he's self

660
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: described on this season, it's just unbelievable that he literally

661
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: did the one thing that I told him not to do.

662
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 1: He's the guy. He's like my son that never wants

663
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: to listen to UM and so I'm gonna I'm gonna

664
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: get the quick uh play by play at least Ashley

665
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: Baby feel free to to interrupt and to stop me

666
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: or correct me. But uh, David out of nowhere seems

667
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: to get a gift for Jinna, a massive gift. It's

668
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: a dog m to just show her happy birthday, even

669
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: though they didn't have a relationship and they were doing

670
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: no backstory to it, and he just like wanted to

671
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: get her a dog, which I think she she thought

672
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: it was weird. Everybody out here watching kind of things,

673
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: it's weird. So he does this, um and Jordan gets upset.

674
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean he was trying to. David was one upping

675
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: Jordan or trying to anyway. He's like this one might

676
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: be one of those moments when a producer work timing.

677
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: I'm just because I don't know. I mean, where did

678
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: he get the dog? Then there's obviously help, there's tons

679
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: of help, but this is this is the dog or

680
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: the gift isn't the key point here? It's David going

681
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: along with so it's yeah, it's it's David agreeing to it.

682
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: And then here's the thing that I think showed through it.

683
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: So just so I can get through this, David gets

684
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: her dog. Jordan walks up, gets upset, takes a dog,

685
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: throws it in the ocean. That obviously is not an

686
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: acceptable practice, but it happened. And I think what it

687
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: shows at this point is that Jordan's like put out

688
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: his character for once, and he really cared about Jenna,

689
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: and he saw something that he cared about being disrupted

690
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: and it was being disrupted by his arch nemesis, and

691
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: he got upset and he threw in the oceans. So

692
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: I get it. Okay was right? Was Okay? Was throwing

693
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: a stuff in him on the ocean the right thing?

694
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know he did it. He comes

695
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: back up. It was a reaction. He comes back up.

696
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 1: And this is where I can relate with him, because

697
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: I get the same way. If you really want to

698
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: if I don't get very angry very often, but if

699
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: you want to push my buttons, if you want to

700
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: make you you bring out, you push me in a

701
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: time of insecurity or a time of doubt. And so

702
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: as he was angry and he walked up into the room,

703
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: he felt like people were laughing at him and not

704
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: with him, and he and he reacted and it hurt him.

705
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: And if you want me to get fired up or

706
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: just insecure and react inappropriately, then it's when I am

707
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: so down on myself already and you want to kick

708
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: me while I'm down, and all I wanna do is

709
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: go away, and you just keep digging that knife deeper

710
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: and deeper. That's where he was at, and so he

711
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: reacted by saying something to a few of the women

712
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: in the room, pretty much in the lines of shut up,

713
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: stop talking totally wrong to anybody. You don't say that

714
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: to a man, to a woman, you don't say that

715
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: to anybody. And that's what we're speaking of, is in

716
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: a time that he was down and am I wrong

717
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: for anybody out there listening, I really accurate. I thought

718
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: it was funny that I don't know who it was

719
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: that tells you to Belie like you should tell him something,

720
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: and she's like, I don't care enough, and that's wrong.

721
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: I just like at that point it was just like

722
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: he's being annoying, I don't care. I like that Eric

723
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: stood up like Analyst did it too, but as a guy,

724
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: Eric really stood up for what was right, and that

725
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: is impressive. He really and he calmly did it, and

726
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: he articulately did it and and said like, hey, that

727
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: was not respectful. I actually it made me like Eric, Yeah,

728
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: I I think I think in situations like this, it's

729
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: one of those crazy moments. We we love these moments

730
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: on on these shows that transcend reality, right where those

731
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: were Some of us can sit there and say I

732
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: relate with Jordan now that the words he said and

733
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: how he handled it, that how I would handle a

734
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: situation like this. I don't think so. I mean, I

735
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: really don't, um but maybe you know. I can't say that,

736
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: but I know how it feels to be kicked and

737
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: to be down and to be hurt, and then to

738
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: be kicked a little harder and to be hurt a

739
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: little harder, and so I know that feeling. I can

740
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: relate with that feeling. And we saw him in one

741
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: of in a very real moment, and I think it

742
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: stems and analys I really want because you had a

743
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: little thing with Jordan for a while. I think it

744
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: stems from Jordans really like to agree. I agree. That's

745
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: why I actually kind of felt like I mentally downplayed

746
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: Jordan's reaction because I knew it was coming from a

747
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: good place. Reminding right, like you see Chicken gives um

748
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: Jenna birthday cake and then come in with a dog.

749
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: It's almost like, guy, come on, yeah, back off my girl. Yeah,

750
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: And it had to be all see how excited Jordan

751
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: is about Jenna, Like the guy was so giddy the

752
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: moment she walked in, it was crazy. And it's the

753
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: one that said it's gonna get cocon that's girl. She's

754
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: really She's made for Jordan's and I don't know the thing,

755
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: Like the minute she walked in, I was like, that's

756
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 1: where my emotions came from because I was like, Okay,

757
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: well obviously that's a match made in heaven match. They're

758
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: like bye bye to this, you know, possibility. But you know,

759
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: I think I think the thing is is that, like

760
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: you totally annailed it then is that I think he

761
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: it was a place of like actual hurt and it

762
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: was like we just people kept poking, and I don't

763
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: think we all that's the thing. In that environment, we

764
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. We're like, oh my god,

765
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: ha ha ha, we can't believe David just gave Jenna

766
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: a dog like and we're laughing about that, and we're

767
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: not really understanding because we're not in that conversation. We're

768
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: seeing it from a different area of the beach, and

769
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: so we're not really understanding what is happening. So when

770
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: he came back up all angry, we're like, oh my god,

771
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: that's hilarious. And she's always the jokes, probably didn't even

772
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: think and then he's like dressed in that outfit exactly.

773
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: I just feel like it was one of those nights

774
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: that it was all stacked against him. It's kind of

775
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: that thing when we we play a character in life.

776
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: You know, he is the jokester Actuley. You know, you

777
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: you have you know, you've been known for your emotions,

778
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: your ability to show emotions and you're you're you're crying

779
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: at you know, moments that sometimes others wouldn't cry. And

780
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: so when we have this character that we we show

781
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: and then we you know, portray, and Jordan does it

782
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: for a bunch of different reasons. I'm sure to lighten

783
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: up the room to be the butt of all jokes

784
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: because he knows when people are laughing at him than

785
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: people are happier, and it takes the pressure off of

786
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: everybody else. You know, there's a thousand defense mechanisms on

787
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: why we we act the way we do. But you

788
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: pointed on something that we got to see in the

789
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: show was that you didn't recognize because he's been the

790
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: character so often that he actually has a real side

791
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: to him. Actually for you, you actually have a real

792
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: site to you. You can get hurt, like really actually hurt,

793
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: not just like I'm crying because I missed, like because

794
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm dramatic. It's like, I actually feel this, and I

795
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: don't want anybody in this moment to question that, to

796
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: hurt me anymore, to laugh at me anymore, because it

797
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: stings a lot deeper than anybody can imagine. Right. Well,

798
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: that's why I went and talked to him, because I

799
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: felt like I was angry with what he said to everyone.

800
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: But then at the same time, I was like I

801
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: got to know him a little bit on a different

802
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: level than everyone else, and so I wanted to be like,

803
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: what is going on, Like fill me in, but also

804
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: you need to go and do something about that, you know.

805
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: So I feel like it was a It was a

806
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: good I'm glad that I got that time with him

807
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: that night to just to kind of be there as

808
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: a friend. Baby, you're out there listening, Um you have

809
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: there's a couple of things when it comes to uh

810
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: conversations that we got to talk to you about. You

811
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: might have one of the most epic speeches in Bachelor

812
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: in Paradise history when it comes to giving talking to Colton,

813
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 1: who was so good, I mean I wanted to bust

814
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: through a wall of love myself. After listening to you,

815
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: Oh it was so good baby. When you said when

816
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: you said the word, I feel like you're rejecting your

817
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: own feelings for her, I was like, whoa, that is

818
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: so profound and something that Jared and I related to

819
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: you very much. Yeah. I mean that tequila was definitely pouring,

820
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: and I feel like it gave me liquid courage um

821
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: where I could just talk to people. I didn't realize

822
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: until like, well, when I watched it last night, how

823
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: much of you know how everybody's saying like I'm Camp

824
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: Paradise counselor um. But really, because like I sat with

825
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: Colton and he's talking about how, you know, I don't

826
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: want to see her get hurt because of Chris, And

827
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: then we all know Tia not really into Chris. It's

828
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: just about proving a point, like don't treat women this way.

829
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: Like if you're gonna say something, do it, you know

830
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: um and Chris going back and forth. It's just not

831
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: a good look for him. But I'm sitting there talking

832
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: to Colton. He's saying all these things, and I'm like, dude,

833
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: you'd like her. You are full of wisdom you always

834
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: have been. We gotta break down and talk to you

835
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: about this wisdom that you portray on everybody. I mean,

836
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: there's a moment that you and I had at Winter

837
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: Games that I'll never forget. Ashley has had these moments.

838
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: You had an epic moment with Colton last night. Um.

839
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: But before we break down where your little nuggets come from,

840
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: we first have to say goodbye to one of the

841
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: most consistent special guests ever on the podcast, Annaly's. Thanks

842
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: for coming in, Thanks for talking to us. Hey, good

843
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: luck on this journey. I wish you were here in studios.

844
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 1: I could give you a hug. All right, guys, bye, Thanks, Okay,

845
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: maybe your skin is incredible. You basically aren't wearing makeup

846
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: out on that beach. I am astonished. Actually, I kept thinking,

847
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: how in the world is actually ever put on makeup here?

848
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: I feel like you, Antia, you guys just look so

849
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: good without makeup down there. It was too hot. I

850
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,600
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851
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: but it was a struggle. You looked so j low, glowing.

852
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm like so jealous of what you look like, just

853
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,000
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854
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: You look just as you always look while it's in

855
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,279
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856
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857
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858
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859
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,400
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860
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Speaker 1: can show off without makeup if you're in paradise or

885
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Speaker 1: if you're just in your regular day life speaking. Okay,

886
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: I have to get something off my chest real quick. Okay, Baby,

887
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: I I can I. You and I have had some

888
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: great conversations as we're going to talk about Ashley. I

889
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: know you've had them with Baby before. We've seen him

890
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: on this and so I feel like we we've for

891
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: anybodout there listening, we we've crossed a level of friendship

892
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: where I could ask this question, and I can ask

893
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: it to anybody out there listening. There was something that

894
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: was said on this week's episode that, uh, I can't

895
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: in today's world, I can't tell if it's inappropriate or not.

896
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: And Baby, I need your and I need your opinions. Right,

897
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: I think we can transcend um this podcast for a

898
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: second actually talked about it. So I'm I'm I'm in

899
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: a place where I'm asking this question often. Uh, what

900
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: is inappropriate when you're hitting on somebody or flirting with somebody?

901
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: And what's not? You know, as you know, when you're

902
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: not in a relationship, when you're kind of strangers, what

903
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: can be said and what's not? Chicken tells Bibby that

904
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: she's got a big butt. Oh, it's such a good compliment.

905
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: Is that a good company? Does it make you feel weird?

906
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: He say that? Kenny says that, yeah, okay, But but

907
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,479
Speaker 1: just for anybody out there listening, let's give a little

908
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: context baby to it, and then explain your feelings after

909
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: do you feel like it was appropriate or was it not?

910
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: And then anybody out there listening email us and tweet us.

911
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: Email us at Ben and Ashley iHeart media dot com.

912
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: With your comments on it was this appropriate not is

913
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff cool or not? Or tweet us,

914
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: you know, answering the same question. But baby, tell us

915
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: your perspective. So, um, it's just I guess it depends, right,

916
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: because if you know someone long enough where you know

917
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: they're paying it as like a compliment, like oh, you

918
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: have such tonight but like what do you do to

919
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: work out kind of thing, then it's not. But then

920
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: when it's just used as like, you know, maybe it

921
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: is just my ties. You know, you have the big booty,

922
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: which is something that you know had been you know,

923
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 1: everybody was talking about it. And I think because we're

924
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: all in bikini that's one you know, you don't make

925
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: a connection out in paradise. That's when that that stuff

926
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: kind of gets to you. It kind of gets you

927
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: in a bad way or a good way. Yeah, No,

928
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: in a bad way where it's just like, well, like,

929
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: but why that's about my body. I wouldn't want somebody

930
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: to be into me just because of that, Ashley, what's

931
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: your take? Okay, So I would think it was a compliment.

932
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: But now listening to Bibby, understand in the context that

933
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: it was said, where it was like, this guy likes

934
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: you because look at your booty Like that makes you

935
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: feel objectified. And I know the difference between thirty year

936
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: olds and forty four year old Oh no, there's a

937
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: total difference, Like my dad, please bring it. I hope

938
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: you only like me for my body. Oh my god,

939
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: a million percent, because it's like I think at my age,

940
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, I'm smart, whatever, please just like

941
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: me because I'm hot. Like literally, that would be so

942
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: to me if somebody was like, oh, she's hot. See

943
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: I don't know this line anymore. Guy this, I mean,

944
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 1: I totally understand what you're talking about. You're talking about

945
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: it as a criteria in order for him to like you,

946
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: like a reason that he likes you. But it's not

947
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: as if it's just a complement. Because if a guy

948
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: was like if a guy in Paradise I go to

949
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: my guy friends or hopefully my love interests would have

950
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: been like, your booty looks fine in that outfit. I

951
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: would be like, thanks. My mom and I were just

952
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: talking about I was just in the end of this week.

953
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: I just flew in the today and um, we're talking

954
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: about this because we've had we were we were able

955
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: to be around a bunch of great women leaders at

956
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 1: a conference this week, and then we're hearing them talk,

957
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: and she asked me, like, what where is the line now?

958
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: Like what can you say and what can't you say?

959
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't really know anymore, Mom, like,

960
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: not that I've never known. I I guess I've never

961
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: really known. I've never been very good at hitting on people.

962
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: But but it's a great question because she was just

963
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: trying to, as a mother, guide me in an appropriate fashion. Um.

964
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: And also you know, for anybody out there that she mentors,

965
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: UH be able to help them out. But I find

966
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: it if if I were okay, so just say this.

967
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: We don't know each other. I come up to you

968
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: at a bar and we're talking, and a couple of

969
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 1: minutes in the conversation, I'm like, you have an amazing body.

970
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: Is that weird? Weird saying I'm weird if you're a stranger. Yeah,

971
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 1: if you compliment the face, you can compliment the face,

972
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: then you can't compliment her body. The first eight meter vibe.

973
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: I feel like it depends on how you connect me.

974
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: Like what if it I don't know, what if you're

975
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: talking to a trainer and you compliment her body. She

976
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: spends obviously a trainer spends a lot of time working

977
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: on their body, or you know, it could be somebody

978
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: that's been working out and all of a sudden, like

979
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: somebody notices, like, your body is incredible. I just think

980
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: it depends and just your approach versus if you're just

981
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: going into it and be like, damn, girl, look at that.

982
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: You know it's weird. That's it's Can I tell you

983
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: something with someone and you know it's kind of like

984
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: you're paying a compliment. I think the way you deliver

985
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: it can change everything, can make a big difference. Thank

986
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: you for leading me in with that. Okay, so there's

987
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: a compliment that I got I don't know, six years ago,

988
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 1: and they'll stay with me for the rest of my life.

989
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: It was the greatest I was. I was in New

990
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: York City and I was just walking through like the

991
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: Times Square area, and this guy turns around and like

992
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: looks at me. He goes, oh, he didn't turn around now,

993
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 1: he was looking at me coming straight and he goes, yo, girl,

994
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: where's your stomach? At where's your where's your stomach? Because

995
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: like I had a crop top on and like obviously

996
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: I have a tiny stomach. And then he walks by

997
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: me double takes and then goes, oh, I see, I

998
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: see it's in your hips. And I was like, yes,

999
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: thank you, but of course that was like a passer by.

1000
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: I want to ask you something, Ben, and then get

1001
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: the ladies take on it. Would you rather hot girl,

1002
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: well maybe that's inappropriate to say, but like a cool,

1003
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: smart hot girl, thank you? Like, oh, Ben, you're so

1004
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: smart and funny, or would you rather than say like

1005
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: you're so handsome and sexy? I don't know. I mean

1006
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,959
Speaker 1: I think like I think I handsome and sexy. Yeah,

1007
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: I do. I mean because the thing is like, like

1008
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: you kind of said Amy, Well, and I know I'm

1009
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: not the smartest tool in the shed, like I I

1010
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: know him. I know I can function. You just got

1011
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: the saying wrong. It's the sharpest tool in the shop,

1012
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: the shiniest, he said, the smartest. That's terrific. I love

1013
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: that I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, and

1014
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: so like, I get it, and I can. But I'm functional,

1015
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: Like I can function, and I can I can operate

1016
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 1: in the world. And I try really hard to continue

1017
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: to educate myself, you know, like I try to stay

1018
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: up on on my studies, and I try to stay educated,

1019
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: I try to stay engage in the world, and I

1020
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: try to ask questions like this to stay up to

1021
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: date on what's appropriate and what's not. Like I know, I,

1022
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: I know, I care to be intelligent, like I care

1023
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: like being sexy and smart, like I feel that most

1024
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: of my days. But if somebody were to say it,

1025
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: like I feel really good, like i'm i'm, i'm, i'm,

1026
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: I'm feeling confident. So yeah, I think that that's the thing.

1027
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: But then again, here's a double standard. And we can

1028
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 1: go down a rabbit trail with this, and we're gonna

1029
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: keep touching on this for a couple more podcasts. I

1030
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: think when I feel like it's more appropriate for a

1031
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: woman to say that to me than it is for

1032
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: me to say that to a woman, why do you

1033
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: think that the woman already knows? No, I I see

1034
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: for some reason, like when I don't like they need

1035
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: the validation. Maybe I don't know. That's such a good question.

1036
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: Think it over tonight. We got to talk about this.

1037
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: This is a big Maybe you've got a ton of wisdom, um,

1038
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: so we're gonna keep grilling you with questions so much

1039
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: of a question as it is, just thanking you for

1040
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: your perception, because first you said that whole you're rejecting

1041
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: your own feelings saying to Colton and yes, I'm revisiting

1042
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 1: the Colton and Tea thing again. But what Colton says

1043
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: that I just love to hear um was that he

1044
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: said that, well, you can see that the friendship is

1045
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: so strong, but he said, it's so easy being with her.

1046
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: And that's that's why I feel such a soft spot

1047
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: for them, because well, Jared didn't have like intense romantic

1048
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 1: feelings for me back back then. Um, he always said

1049
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: that he loved our friendship. He always knew we would

1050
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: be friends outside of Paradise, and he always said it

1051
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: was so easy, like that quote, it's so easy with her.

1052
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: So that was nice. And then what I loved is

1053
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: that they kind of agreed that you you said it.

1054
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: You were like, this doesn't have to be a lifelong thing.

1055
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: Stop thinking of it as a lifelong thing. Just have

1056
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: fun and give it a good chance, right, because I

1057
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: think Paradise puts a lot of pressure on everyone just

1058
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 1: thinking about that final row ceremony and then thinking about,

1059
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: holy crap, we could be engaged at the end of this.

1060
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: And you know what sucks about the guys is they

1061
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: don't have any time on They go from i know,

1062
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: from Betist season straight into Paradise, so you don't even

1063
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: get a breather to kind of just think about where

1064
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: you're really at as much as you try to write.

1065
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: And then Colton makes it all the way to Final four,

1066
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: he really is ready to propose at that point, You're

1067
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: ready to propose Tobecca right right when you're going into

1068
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: another scenerror where you have to like shift everything and

1069
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: now you have to think about marriage again. It's the

1070
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: exact same thing because Jared was fourth on Caitlin season.

1071
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: He went in really probably not ready to date again,

1072
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: and then he was like, Oh, I like this girl.

1073
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: You know, I think she's pretty, she's fun. We have

1074
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: a great relationship. It's easy, but I don't feel these

1075
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: intense romantic feelings the way I did for Caitlin or

1076
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: Becca a couple of weeks ago. And it's just such

1077
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: a direct parallel, like you have to compare like Tilla,

1078
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: Tobecca and Me to Caitlin, like in that moment, and

1079
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: those guys go in because they came from such a

1080
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: serious environment and they're going to more fun, lighthearted environment

1081
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: and they kind of forget like, oh, this can just

1082
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: be fun for a while, right, we could just figure

1083
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: this out. We can date. Yes, people leave Paradise as

1084
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: couples and don't end up engaged. Yep, I don't know.

1085
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: That's why can't you do that? It's not as fun

1086
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: it's fun, it's not as fun to watch, you know.

1087
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: And I think t was also frustrated too, because there's

1088
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: a part where she's just like, I don't want to

1089
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: date him, and then now we all know she's always

1090
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: wanted to say him. But as a woman, you never

1091
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: really want to put yourself in a situation where like,

1092
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: well this guy is not really into me, Like how

1093
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: do I just keep waiting for him? Right? Okay, but Bibby,

1094
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: I gotta cut I gotta cut you off and ask

1095
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: you this then, because you're a supporter of Colton TIA's relationship,

1096
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: and so I know when I talked to people that

1097
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: were on the beach with Jared Nashley, the connection was tangible.

1098
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: You could cut it with a knife. It was thick.

1099
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. Some people will say otherwise, but most

1100
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: people would say, like Jared and Ashley. There was something there.

1101
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: You supported Colton and Tilla because when you were there

1102
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: on the beach with them, that could you feel the

1103
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: chemistry because I, here's my opinion, I haven't felt it

1104
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: yet watching it. You haven't really not once. Oh my god.

1105
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: So Jared and I watch it and we like turned

1106
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: to each other last week at the end. It was

1107
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: when Colton went up to Tea to talk about how

1108
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: Chris had kissed Cristal the night before, and we were like, oh,

1109
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: we feel it. We feel that they have a very

1110
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: strong foundation. Is there romantic right now? Maybe not, but

1111
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: they really care about each other. I don't feel it

1112
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: might be one of those Jared and nasty situations where

1113
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:33,479
Speaker 1: he is just having a hard time being it is more.

1114
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: We'll see you know. It took three years. It's so crazy,

1115
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: all right, baby? This week you went home, Caroline, Jacqueline, Bibiana,

1116
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: go home, baby. We're gonna miss We're gonna miss watching you. Babby.

1117
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: There is a moment we got to talk about on

1118
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: the Winter Games when you looked at me and you

1119
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: spoke truth into my life in a way nobody ever

1120
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: has before. And I will never forget it. You look

1121
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: like you're tearing up now. I love this girl. She's incredible.

1122
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: I text her last night I was was watching this episode.

1123
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: I said, maybe you're you're a special person. She is,

1124
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: She's just she's just a special person. And you have

1125
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: a gift to speak truth in the people in a

1126
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: way that nobody's ever spoke to them before. So maybe

1127
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you this before I say goodbye to you,

1128
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: because I don't get a lot of opportunities to do it.

1129
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: Don't stop speaking, don't stop speaking truth into people's lives,

1130
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: because it affects them in a way that you can

1131
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: never possibly understand or they could never communicate back to you.

1132
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: So thank you, Bibby for being you. I'm gonna miss

1133
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: watching you. But you're so sweet. You have a talent

1134
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: for being vulnerable, like so vulnerable, like even more vulnerable

1135
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: than I feel like I can get. Really Yeah, you know,

1136
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: leaving Paradise, I thought, well, like did I talk too much? Right? Like?

1137
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: Did I say too much? Did I? You know? And Tia,

1138
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: what did I do wrong? And I took a couple

1139
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: of days, but just you know, you come back into

1140
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: this and you come back home and it's weird and

1141
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: I was really sad because I put all my eggs

1142
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: in that basket. Um, But then I remember everybody like

1143
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: I got along with Crystal and Colton and Tia. You know,

1144
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: we're a match. Kevin was hitting it off with Ostrich

1145
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: And then I thought, okay, well, I've always wanted to

1146
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: have a big group of guy friends. For some reason,

1147
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: I've never had the chance to have guy friends. And

1148
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: now I have a bunch of guy friends can comes

1149
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: to me and they can talk to me. So as

1150
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: sad as it was leading single, just because you just

1151
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: see your friends hitting it off and having a relationship

1152
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: at the same time, I can't be that mad because

1153
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: I have a whole new family. That's right. Maybe you're loved.

1154
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: You're the heart and soul a lot of people's lives.

1155
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: So baby Anna, thank you for coming onto the Almost

1156
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: Famous podcast. As Lee and I and the rest of

1157
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: our half million listeners love you, We love you, love

1158
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: you guys. Thanks by Actually the close out to recap,

1159
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable talking about it. I was gonna say,

1160
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: we need to talk about this. Yeah, we got to

1161
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: talk about it. I want to hear your opinion. I'm

1162
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: make an appearance. Yeah you do I flew all the

1163
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: way to Mexico for this thing. Who was your character's name, um,

1164
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: bred Bred? Oh, and then who is Amanda's name? Uh? Well, anyway,

1165
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, gracious, you guys were sexy. You guys

1166
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: were so hot. I got to hear your opinion. I

1167
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: want you to break this down because this is my

1168
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: one moment, and so I feel I feel like I

1169
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: made to Mexico. I've been a big fan of Paradise

1170
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: for a while. I wanted to see what was all

1171
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: about down there. I want to see Yuki, which I

1172
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: got to see. I want to see Wells, who I

1173
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: got to see. Um, I got to see Amanda, who

1174
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: I haven't really seen a lot since you know the

1175
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: show Um and our in Lauren in their new relationship,

1176
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: and then the staff I got along Ago. So there's

1177
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: so many people I wanted to see. So there's a

1178
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: thousand reasons I went down. I don't know really why

1179
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: I was going down. I show up and we were

1180
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: told were re enacting a book that is actually has

1181
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: been written um for this show. Well, it was led

1182
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: by Jorge the Bartender. He was the writer of the novella.

1183
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just came up with that. Uh,

1184
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: and you were the wholesome, wonderful husband who had a

1185
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: great relationship, right. No, you had on the Rocks relationship

1186
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: with Amanda, and then um Ari and Lauren, they had

1187
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: a wonderful relationship. However, something happened. He just wanted to

1188
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: kiss Amanda, so he did, and then you and Amanda

1189
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: kind of were squat at the end of all of it.

1190
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: But Ari and Lauren returned together happily ever after. I

1191
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: was just disappointed that you didn't get to interact with

1192
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: Kendall and Leo on the day. I thought that you

1193
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: guys were gonna come in and then you were going

1194
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: to show them how to really pose. I think they

1195
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: trust like those dates are pretty sacred. I don't think

1196
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: they trust a guy like me in a Mariachi suit

1197
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: floating around a date being like, hey, this is what

1198
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:13,479
Speaker 1: you should do. But I would have loved Tom was shot.

1199
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: That was an amazing shot. I think that they made

1200
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: the entire storyline just so that you could say that

1201
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding it was. It was my moment. They

1202
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: really pumped me up for it, and they're like, this

1203
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: is your moment to speak from the heart and yell,

1204
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: shamption shot so skill one to tend How great was

1205
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:41,439
Speaker 1: that a little segment that we did? It was a ten. Oh,

1206
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: it was fantastic And I like that it's been in

1207
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: a teaser ever since the beginning, so like people are

1208
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: so like, why is he there? So people thought you

1209
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: were in the cast, and so many people have tweeted

1210
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: and emailed me saying, hey, just let you know, like

1211
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: you're not in Liva and like at this point in

1212
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: my life, I'm working through it. But like it's so

1213
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: sweet because people are like, I hear you went to Paradise.

1214
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: It didn't obviously work out for you, but just know,

1215
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: like we're still rooting for you. So it's people have

1216
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: been great and they're gonna be so disappointed when they

1217
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: find out that it was like a four minute just

1218
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: a scene scene. Hey, if you know, Hey, I'm a

1219
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: big fan. It was fun to be down. It was

1220
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: great to see Uki and all those people. Um, Paradise

1221
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: is a beautiful place. I will say that that's my takeaway.

1222
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: Paradise is a beautiful place. Paradise is a beautiful place.

1223
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: There's one thing we didn't hit in this episode of

1224
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: Recaping Paradise that was the whole Kendall and Leo and

1225
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: Joe drama. There's a reason that we didn't recap it.

1226
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: Is it because it hurts me. I don't like it.

1227
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: He's so Joe is so great because he doesn't sugarcoat it.

1228
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: He doesn't. He's not like, Okay, well, I hope you

1229
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: have a great day today. He's just like, I hope

1230
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: you have a horrible time, and I hope he's a dick. Yeah,

1231
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: and he's great about it. I love that. That's his response,

1232
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: is like, I don't like this moment. I'm hurt by

1233
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: this moment. What's about to happen is something I'm not

1234
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: in favor of, and I hope you have a terrible time.

1235
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: He's simple and straight up. More people to be like this.

1236
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: Joe just continues, no matter what he does, to bring

1237
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: the fans in. This is his moment. Okay. So Jared

1238
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: watched the episode before I did, and then he was like,

1239
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: I want Joe to be the next Bachelor, And I

1240
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: was like, Jared, no, I don't think. I don't think

1241
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: we were like we want Kendall and Joe together. Why

1242
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: would I you know, why would I not want that?

1243
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: And then I watched it and I was like, Okay,

1244
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: I'd be more on the Joe train. Okay, if you

1245
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: had to rank right now, Actually you have Colton, Jason, Blake,

1246
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: Joe the Grocer. Yeah, how do you rank them in order?

1247
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: From Okay, let's go least your least favorite to be

1248
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: the bachelor to top top choice. Well, I like to

1249
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: think of myself as being like, you know, friends with

1250
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: Colton and friendly with Jason, and I've never met personal

1251
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: hard feelings here. Well, I mean that is it personal

1252
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: favorites or is it like who I think is going

1253
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: to make the most entertaining season. Let's add them all

1254
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: up into one and just say who would you like

1255
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: to see? Um? Okay, I think that Jason's number one.

1256
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: Colton let's revisit in a year because he's still pretty good. Yeah,

1257
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Speaker 1: and he's like all wrapped up in the current drama. Um,

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Speaker 1: Blake is probably number two? And who is my who

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Speaker 1: is my foe the Grocer? Oh? Joe? So I guess

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Speaker 1: Joe could be three. I don't know, It's tough. We

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Speaker 1: got four good choices right now. I mean, those are

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Speaker 1: those are people that I think would make good bachelors.

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Speaker 1: But if I wanted to be entertained and like just

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Speaker 1: all all the time. All. But I do have a

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Speaker 1: poll that I made last night, two nights ago. I said,

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks removed from the season finale of

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Speaker 1: The Bachelorette, who do you want to be the next Bachelor?

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Speaker 1: Jason one? It was just Jason up against Blake and

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Speaker 1: Jason one with fifty nine percent of the vote. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty obvious who the fan favorite is.

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Speaker 1: I do, and I get it when I when I

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Speaker 1: talk to people and listen to people, I think Jason

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Speaker 1: is the fan favorite. I think he will be the

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Speaker 1: next Bachelor. But my second choice would be Blake. I

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Speaker 1: love I love Joe the grocer. I don't think he

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Speaker 1: has it to carry a full sea is in converse

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Speaker 1: with that many people and keep it, keep you manage it.

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Speaker 1: Just on the podcast, Okay, he is a little hard

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Speaker 1: to interview, but when he's in an actual, like social environment,

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Speaker 1: he seems better. Um. But that that whole moment to

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Speaker 1: close this out was hard for me because I was

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Speaker 1: really rooting for Kendle and Joe. I thought they were

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Speaker 1: the one couple that I was like, this has something here,

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Speaker 1: this could actually be a marriage and an engagement. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm rooting from both because I like him both a

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Speaker 1: lots as people, and that I thought they were staying

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Speaker 1: away from the gritty details. And then Leo comes in,

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Speaker 1: and there's just something about that scenario, Leo especially coming

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Speaker 1: in that made me not thrilled that it was him

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Speaker 1: taking him because I feel like, maybe because I just

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Speaker 1: make all this stuff up in my head, but I

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Speaker 1: feel like Leo was, um kind of excited about the

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Speaker 1: idea that he could be Mr Steel a girl. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: they go on a date together, it goes fabulous. Kendall

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Speaker 1: even says that she sees a more long term future

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Speaker 1: with Leo. But then this ame night that he gets

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Speaker 1: back from the date with Kendall, he's making out with

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Speaker 1: Chelsea in the hot tub. This proves my point Bell

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Speaker 1: Leo maybe isn't the better man. But we'll see, We'll

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Speaker 1: have to watch it. That's that's a storyline to follow.

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Speaker 1: As Paradise continues, Um, Ashley to close it out, We've

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Speaker 1: been a great podcast. It's been a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: I gotta ask you this because I thought the same thing.

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Speaker 1: This is an email from one of our favorites Becky.

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Speaker 1: She says, I observed something on last Tuesday's episode of

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Speaker 1: Paradise that caught me by surprise, and I was wondering

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Speaker 1: if you could provide some behind the scenes intel. After

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Speaker 1: Becca gave Colton his little pick me up and she

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Speaker 1: was walking away, she said, I'll tell you say I'll

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Speaker 1: tell Garrett. You say Hi. Yes. By now we all

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Speaker 1: know she chose Garrett, but her season was still airing

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Speaker 1: when Paradise was filmed. I know that contestants are sworn

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Speaker 1: to secrecy regarding the final outcome the show, but does

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Speaker 1: that not only apply to people outside of the franchise? Phillison,

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Speaker 1: I I was interested by this as well. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was shocking that she sat down with the women

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Speaker 1: when I was there and said I picked Garrett because

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Speaker 1: we knew they were having a few more weeks in

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Speaker 1: the public when they came back. I've never seen the

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Speaker 1: show release a name to that many people before the

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Speaker 1: season the Bachelor It's over? Is that uncommon? Ish? I

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Speaker 1: think the girl I think the girl the Bachelor at

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Speaker 1: usually tells her friends some real season who she hands

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Speaker 1: up picking. Okay, but but did you not tell the

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Speaker 1: guys who you picked? No? I did, but it was

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Speaker 1: all kind of like behind the curtain, like text messages

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Speaker 1: and like private. This was on TV, so she was

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Speaker 1: telling a bunch of people she didn't know even on

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Speaker 1: like on the show. She was like, hey, guys, sit

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Speaker 1: around the circle here, let's have a power I picked Garrett.

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Speaker 1: I guess it is a little weird. It's a little weird.

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Speaker 1: Um so yeah, I don't think it happens often, but

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Speaker 1: it happened, and and I was shocked by it too,

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Speaker 1: you for listening. It was crazy. I was in Indiana,

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Speaker 1: like I said this week, and I was. I was

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Speaker 1: with my family last night actually, and my it out

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Speaker 1: of nowhere. And we've talked about this before, said Ben,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy. I talked to so many people now that

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Speaker 1: listen to your podcast with Ashley. It just continues to

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Speaker 1: and and just enjoy this podcast for as long as

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Speaker 1: in and just being wonderful. Thanks man, I'm so excited

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Speaker 1: to do it all over again with you next week.

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