WEBVTT - AMY GRANT: Heart In Motion - 30th Anniversary 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:15.320 Love some Lontemer with de Love Baby Baby. I'm taken 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:21.280 with the notion to talk today with an iconic recording artist, 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:26.079 one whose music I've played over and over and over 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:33.400 for years and years and years, songs dedicated by callers 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:37.239 to their sweethearts, to those that they love with the 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:42.360 sweetest of devotion. While I've been given the honorary title 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:48.400 of Queen of sappy love songs, my guest today became 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.479 known at a very early stage in her career, like 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.960 before she was even twenty I think as the queen 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:59.840 of Christian pop. She's spent over forty years so far 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:05.080 the music world. She's racked up six Grammys, twenty six 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:10.280 Dove Awards. It's been thirty years since Heart in Motion 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.080 was released, Whi's included her biggest worldwide hit that I 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:17.240 just you know, tried to sing a few little notes 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.640 of baby Baby, a song she wrote about her baby, 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.200 and we're going to talk about that today. She's going 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.720 to be celebrating the album Heart in Motion all through 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:30.080 twenty twenty one to thirty year anniversary. We are going 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.400 to have so much fun chatting with my friend Amy 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:35.120 Grant today, but I need to stop for a minute. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.480 I'm cracking myself up here. 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Michael W. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.320 Smith has bragged about it. But did she offer to 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:26.400 share the recipe? No? No, Did she offer to send me, like, 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.840 freeze some and send it in a sealed container or something? 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:32.400 No? No, I shouldn't do that either. 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.520 All right, I think she's done, Amy Grant, Welcome back 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:41.160 from your chili bowl. Welcome to love someone with Delilah. 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:47.240 Okay, thank you that I was working on some some 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:48.600 angry behavior. 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.080 I saw a T shirt online the other day. I 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.720 almost ordered it for my daughter Sheila. It says I'm 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.839 sorry about what I said when I was hungry, And 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.440 if it had said when I was hungry, I would 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.920 have ordered it for her. Yes, yes, because she doesn't 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.960 get hungry. She gets she goes from zero to hangry 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.920 in five minutes. And she's got a little one who's 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:20.000 almost three, who is just like her. I'm like, somebody 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.880 find some protein right now. Find me some I don't care, 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.640 some chicken strip something. 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.560 Yep, I'm speaking my language. 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:37.239 Sister. Welcome to love someone. Amy. It's been a while 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.120 since we caught up. I think the last time I 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.560 talked to you was when I saw you on your 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.080 Christmas tour a couple of years ago. 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:48.039 Yes, I know, and I've seen your face recently with 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:52.160 a People magazine article, and I wish I could just 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:53.520 wrap arms around you. 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.480 I wish you could do I would take that in 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:01.920 a heartbeat. I was talking to to a lady I 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:05.599 just love, a girl named Brie last night. She's spent 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:09.240 her whole career in the movie industry, in the TV industry, 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:14.599 and she said something that just blew my mind. She said, 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.440 I almost didn't want to come to your house. I 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.599 almost didn't want to get to know you. I said why. 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:26.040 She said, because I've been so disappointed with people I've 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.440 met through this industry, where you have these expectations of 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:33.640 them and then you get to see, you know, behind 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:39.120 the screen, they moved the curtain and they're just not real. 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:41.840 I started laughing and I said, you know what, I 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:46.640 am so blessed that I have people in my world 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.880 in my life, in my career, in my inner circle, 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:56.200 who are as real and as wonderful and genuine as 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.680 you imagine them to be. And I was looking I 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.960 had been looking online at some stuff that you've done 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.240 because I was thinking about this interview. And you and 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:11.960 Michael are that way. You are as kind and as 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:18.400 beautiful and as real as somebody would imagine you to be. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.720 And you never in all the times I've seen you 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:26.800 on stage, off stage, interviews, casually with your husband, with 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:33.279 Michael W. Smith, you have consistently been a beautiful soul 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:35.440 and I appreciate that about you. 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:42.240 Thank you. Well, Hey, it's easier to be one person, 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:45.360 it is. 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:49.520 Oh yeah, how hard is that for people to pretend 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:53.440 and to put on this act and then you know, 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:58.279 when the cameras aren't rolling or whatever, to be somebody 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:02.480 completely different. That's like, that's like a lot of energy. 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:06.479 Unless you've got a multiple personality disorder. There's a lot 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:07.120 of energy. 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:12.160 Yeah, yeah, and you know it. And all of us 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:16.840 that have public lives, we do have, like you said, 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:23.000 a circle of people around us that know us. Nothing 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:27.480 is a surprise. And on the days when you feel 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:32.840 the lowest or you know, you have people that you 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:39.480 trust to embrace all that too, you know, because everybody's 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:43.680 pendulum swings wide and and you know, it's funny. I 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.320 think when you have people in your life that have 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:54.640 constantly been supportive and nurturing, that it makes me want 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.120 to be that way to other people because I go, 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.000 oh no, yeah, I had a big dose of that. 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:02.720 I was born into a family of that, and everybody 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:03.360 should have that. 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:10.480 So so you have that obviously with your hobby. How 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:14.720 many years twenty twenty years now you invents twenty. 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.280 One years, I know, but I'm telling you, I don't think. 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:21.120 I don't think we really felt like an old married 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:26.040 couple until COVID, because we had a chance. You know, 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.960 always he's packing a bag leaving town, I'm packing a 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:32.200 bag leaving down and there was just always so much 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:36.480 coming and going, and it was it was such a 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:39.840 It was really one of the many hidden gifts of 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.600 COVID for us to be in the same place for 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:43.280 a whole year. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.960 Same here. My Hobby and I have been together, not 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:51.760 twenty one years, but going on fourteen years married and 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.800 almost went in the eighteen nineteen years together I don't 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:58.679 even remember. But same with us because we live in 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.520 two different states. His career is in one state and 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.120 my studio and my life is in another state. And 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:09.760 for our entire marriage, we've had a commuter marriage. And 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.160 when COVID hit, I packed up the kids and headed 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.679 to his ranch. He has a cattle ranch. It was weird. 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.280 Okay, all I want to do is ask you a 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:21.400 million details. 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:25.920 Yeah, okay, so let's just pretend we're not even recording this. 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:30.240 What's the weirdest thing that you discovered about Vents that 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:34.680 we can talk about during the shutdown or the biggest 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:36.199 challenge that you guys had. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:41.080 I think the biggest discovery for me was that. And 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:45.360 I'm not proud of this. I think the things about 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:49.040 Vents that I wished were different when we were always 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.280 coming and going because I would be away from him. 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:55.000 And when now I see him, I would like project 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:58.040 something onto him. Oh, he doesn't quite fit that projection. 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.440 And what I found when I was with him all 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:10.199 the time was that I felt like I really saw 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:17.240 him day in and day out, the subtle, beautiful things 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:21.400 about his personality day in and day out. And I 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:25.280 know it sounds crazy, but to go twenty one years 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.960 and this has never struck you before, but when you're 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:34.040 always coming and going, like for instance, I feel like 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:38.720 he saves his best material for me, funny, silly, but 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:43.760 he starts every day kind and humorous every single day. 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:52.120 Big talker, you know, he's not like he's a good listener. 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.000 If I feel super energetic about something that's going on, 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.680 like I want, I'll say, I just want you to 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.839 know all about this. But he doesn't ask a lot 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:05.640 of questions, and so I would find, you know, if 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.599 we came together and he wasn't asking a lot of questions, 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.000 I don't know, just be like, I wish you asked 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.439 me more questions. I wish you were interested. But when 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:18.600 you're together all the time, we just found our pattern 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.720 of being together, and as crazy as it sounds, a 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:26.640 lot of it was peaceful silence. And now when I'm 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:31.280 away from him, I go, whow I missed that? It's crazy, 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.480 Like I mean, I don't know if that rings true 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:37.480 for you. He can talk, he can He also can 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.679 talk and talk and talk, but I just have such 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:45.559 an appreciation for I don't know, just the calm center. 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.120 That do you notice how quiet I'm being? 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.200 Yeah? Why do you are you relating to that. 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:58.560 No, no, because there is no way I'm opening my 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.640 mouth now. After that, I'm like, dang, that didn't go 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:08.840 the way I would. Oh, he sounds so sweet and 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:12.120 lovely and lovable. And here I was going to tell 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:16.640 you how I didn't realize how grumpy my husband was 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:18.719 since we've never lived together. 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.880 Can I tell you it's so funny I'm telling you 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:27.160 that discovery to go. I mean, I think Vince is 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:30.880 it's harder on himself than he is on anybody else, 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.199 but he is he just a kind soul. 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:40.000 I think for Paul, because my husband is older and 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.719 his children, he and his wife, his first wife, had 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:47.000 five children and they're all grown and gone and very 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:52.640 successfully living on their own. For the four girls. I 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:57.319 lost my step son. He lost his only son December 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:02.959 of twenty nineteen. But so when he came into my world, 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:07.280 he had had already graduated in his mind from being 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:13.120 a daily dad. Yeah, and already was a grandpa, you 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.439 know when we met, and so was I. I was 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:19.480 grandma when we met, but I had not finished raising 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.760 the ones I had, and I've adopted six more since 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:28.160 we met. And so when we lived apart, it was 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:34.400 easy for him to be interactive and engaged for two 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.679 or three or five or six days out of the month. 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.080 But when we were all living together, nine of us 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:43.680 in a twelve hundred square foot house, all of a 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:47.360 sudden he realized why he had you know, only had 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.880 five and gotten them out the door. 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:56.480 Before Whoo, that's a lot going on. Yeah, that would 0:13:56.520 --> 0:14:00.400 be hard, and maybe this is maybe you guys found 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:04.120 this Vince and I. The more concentrated time we spent together, 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:08.960 we realize that we we are so different from each 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:12.640 other in how we like to spend our time, in 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:18.520 what energizes us. He has endless patience and stamina in 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:23.040 the recording studio, endless stamina when it comes to something musical, 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:27.440 perfecting a part, working on something, working on a song, 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.800 And I'm like a dog in a backyard and forty 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:33.320 squirrels have just been released. 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:38.480 I squirrel, squirrel, Gotta go do this, gotta do that. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.720 So what are the sorts of things that you have 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:45.600 that endless capacity? Because it's funny, my husband and I 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.240 are actually very much alike in the things that we 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:52.160 enjoy spending time doing. We both love big equipment, We 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:57.280 both love like being in the dirt and landscaping and 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.680 being out doors and being you know, down at the 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.600 creek and planting trees. We both, you know, we were 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:09.560 very much alike in that way. But I'm the same 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.320 age you are. If I could still give birth, I 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:16.200 would have ten more kids, and Paul's like, no, No, 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.520 five was plenty for me. And now that I'm a 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.000 stepdad to fifteen more, it's kind of a lot. 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:28.720 It's a lot, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.160 So what are the things that you enjoy? Like you said, 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.840 he's got endless capacity for recording, what are the things 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:37.040 that that you just could spend ten hours doing. 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.920 I love cooking. I'm a lot more. 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.720 Why are you so dang skinny? Then? Every time I 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:47.840 see you, you just you're You're so beautiful and thin 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.680 and gorgeous. I love cooking, and you can tell by 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:51.320 looking at me. 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:59.320 I I don't know what to say. I got a 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:03.320 fast metable, I do, and I love to move. I 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:09.120 love to hike. It would drive since crazy if I 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.600 ask him to do what I love doing every day. 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:17.160 And I think that's what I've really discovered, is I 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:20.160 think when we were both younger, because we met in 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.440 our thirties and now we're in our sixties, and I 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:27.840 think we imagined that we would be inseparable because we 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.640 were so drawn to each other. But what I found 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:37.360 in the COVID year was that he's my favorite person 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:41.760 to return to. But there's so many ways. I just 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.160 love for my days to have purpose. I've got a 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.280 farm that I love to share, and I share it 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:51.480 in such an eclectic way. Is coming Sunday, We're having 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:56.680 our very first elderly Day retreat. I met a filmmaker 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.960 and he said, I want to take people from assisted living, 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:05.320 like truly the elderly out to be barefoot around the 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.840 campfire with a loved one, tell stories, have there be 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:15.359 some music, and you know, so I'm just providing the place. 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:21.560 What a precious, sweet way to share your blessings in 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.119 a completely different way. I mean, when you share your music, 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.440 you share your blessings. But think of the memories that's 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.600 going to bring back for people who maybe grew up 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:32.760 on a farm or had a farm, or went to 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:36.399 their grandma's farm to be able to leave the confines 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:37.400 of four walls. 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:42.840 Yeah, yeah, especially after the year we've had. And this man, Glenn, 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.560 I met him through a friend of a friend, and 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.880 he's he makes documentaries and he's been in the music 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:53.439 business as a graphic artist for years. And yeah, but 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.000 just to go, oh my gosh, our paths crossed. So 0:17:56.840 --> 0:18:02.160 I feel like I'm always seeing the possibilities of enlarging 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:08.959 the community circles, even though I get regenerated and rejuvenated 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:14.359 in solitude. I'm an introvert that likes people anyway. But 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:18.200 it's just like all those things are you know, that 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:20.920 will lead to something else, that will lead to something else. 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:24.840 I had a friend that started coming out to the farm, 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:28.280 and now we've made connections with the Nashville Rescue Mission 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.480 and we're getting ready to have a retreat there with 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:34.760 ten women served by the Rescue Mission. And I'm so excited. 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:38.320 I'm like, I have, believe it or not, twenty family 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.240 tents in my basement because I'm such an outdoor freak. 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:45.320 Twenty So I'm like, I get set the tents up 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.080 in the backyard, I get to wash the tents. You know, 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.240 here goes my engine. How are we going to make 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:52.199 them all sleep comfortably? How are we going to do this? 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.119 And then so they'll come out in the backyard, you know, 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.280 while I'm stretching the tents out making sure we have 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:59.159 all the polls, and he'll be like, I'm head to 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:04.040 the golf course. You know, he loves he loves his patterns. 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:07.600 And I'm not sure how to describe what I love. 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:11.320 But it's just the matrix of all of our connectedness 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.840 and how I believe we're all so essential to each 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:19.520 other in how we connect what we offer. And one 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:24.880 person has plentiful of something else that another person that 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:28.960 they have scarcity of that, And so I'm all about, 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.880 oh my gosh, connected dots, just connected dots. There's everything 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:33.879 we need if we could just communicate it. 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:39.600 And so Stone Soup remember that story? Did you hear 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:40.879 that story when you were little? 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:43.840 Yes? I love that. 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:46.760 That's what you are. You are, you are the chef 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:48.119 of Stone Soup. 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.920 Hmm. You could not have said anything to put a 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:53.240 bigger smile on my face. 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:59.520 That's what your gift is. I mean, obviously Amy Grant, 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:02.280 who's one and how many Grammys and how many twenty 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:07.960 six devil wards. But what you just described of figuring 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.880 out who's got this talent, who's got this gift, who's 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:14.399 got this need? Where is their scarcity? Where can my 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:21.200 abundance flow into that scarcity. That's a stone soup chef. 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:28.280 Yeah, yeah, what's funny because I think just talking about 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:33.440 scarcity and abundance. I don't even know when this really 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:37.320 felt like a lightning bolt in my brain. But I 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:40.320 keep looking at like the situations in the world that 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:48.760 feel like homelessness, or you just go, oh, something seem insurmountable. 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:55.880 Some things, you know, respectful, race relations, you just name it. 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.920 It's so easy to look at all of the failed 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:04.240 attempts and the ongoing problems and just but I don't know, 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.840 something has shifted in this last year in me, and 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:11.960 I just go, what if every one of us were 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:17.520 just willing to consider the possibility of saying a simple 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:22.600 yes for good that came to us individually, uniquely to 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:24.800 us that if we just said, I'm just going to 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:28.720 risk saying yes, you know, I mean to me, that's 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:33.480 where the adventure is. The adventure is starting a conversation 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:38.399 in the elevator with someone that looks different from you. Amen, 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:42.840 relax and say, how's your day going. If we all 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:44.120 just did things. 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:49.720 Differently, if we all said yes to the possibility of kindness, 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:52.640 if we all said yes to the possibility of sharing, 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:56.359 of not hoarding our resources of sharing whatever it is 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:57.600 that God has blessed us with. 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:00.879 Yes. And here's the other things. I think the first 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:03.480 time you say yes, and I think, it's a mystery 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:05.679 how it comes to you, whatever it is, just that 0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:09.399 it's like, huh, just out of the blue, it occurred 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:12.760 to me to do this instead of that I don't 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:17.520 even know what it was. But something I think that 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:21.280 that's when the adventure begins, is the first time you 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:27.120 go slightly outside of your own script, your own thermostat 0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:31.879 temperature controlled environment that we all have tried to create 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:36.199 around ourselves, and it separates us from each other. But 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:39.480 the first time you say, I'm a little nervous, but 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:43.760 I'm going to show up at this table. I don't 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:46.679 know if I have the skill set, but I'm going 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:47.800 to try this thing. 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:50.480 Everything you need to do, it will show up. 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:51.560 Yeah. 0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:55.879 Like when I the first time I went to Africa, Amy, 0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:59.160 I was so scared. I was so I didn't even 0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:02.800 have a passport. I had only traveled out of the 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:06.919 United States to Canada a couple of times and to 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:11.320 Mexico a couple of times. That's it. I had no 0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:17.119 travel experience. I had no knowledge of what a developing 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:21.240 country was like. And it was people at World Vision 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:25.399 that said, why don't you you know? I went to 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:28.200 them and asked them for help for somebody that had 0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.400 contacted me in West Africa, and they said, well, why 0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:33.520 don't you go and see what the conditions are like 0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:36.160 and see what you could do? And you might as 0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:39.320 well said why don't you get on a spaceship and 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:42.440 go live on Mars. To me, it was just such 0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:47.440 a foreign like, no, I'm a single mom and I've 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:51.960 got a career, And I said yes, yeah, And it 0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:54.800 changed everything. It changed everything. 0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:58.520 Yes, it's just saying yes, Oh my gosh, and look 0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:05.440 at didn't it make your entire life less gray? And 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:09.600 you see the edges of technicolor. And the more you 0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.639 step into yes, the more vivid and vibrant in your 0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:13.520 life gets? 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.680 Oh boy, did it get vivid? And did it get vibrant? 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:21.600 And did it get filled with purpose and passion and joy? 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:27.960 And six children and a whole different way of looking 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:35.000 at things, a whole different understanding of family and dynamics 0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:40.840 and culture and music and traditions and food and everything. 0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:45.399 Everything changed the moment. It didn't even change the minute 0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:49.240 I got to Ghana. It changed the moment I said 0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:56.000 yes to the possibility of stepping outside that comfort zone. Yeah. 0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:58.560 So what was the biggest yes that you can think 0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:02.679 of that has has impacted you and your family that 0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:03.400 you said. 0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:06.639 Jilila, the way my brain works at two o'clock in 0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:08.480 the morning, I'll go. But that's the answer I should 0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:11.360 have said, but I just don't. My brain doesn't work 0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:16.280 that way. So I'm just going to say a recent 0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:20.960 yes was I have a friend. So all of our kids, 0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:23.040 you know, have launched five. 0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:29.840 And I can fix that for you. Can I can 0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:32.080 fix that for you. If you got that empty nest there, 0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:34.520 I can fill it right back up. Oh lord? 0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:38.679 Yeah. Well so so the summer my father died at 0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:42.359 twenty eighteen, I traveled to see two friends of mine 0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:47.879 prol college, one in North Carolina and one in New Hampshire, 0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:52.960 and I was so struck by their hospitality. It was 0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:57.600 so beautiful to me in its simplicity that it was 0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:02.240 all about the welcome. I came home and said, Okay, 0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.600 I'm going to take these kids rooms and I'm going 0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:10.760 to uh, I'm going to get company, you know, new mattresses. 0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:13.560 I mean, most everybody took their beds. I'm gonna I'm 0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:16.560 going to go through I'm going to box up. You know, 0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:20.440 nobody needs seventh grade mass papers. They don't want them, 0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:25.360 you know, just to go through the clutter to make 0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:31.480 the rooms there, the old bedrooms just available. I was 0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:35.440 so moved by this trip when I was welcomed into 0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:39.199 people's homes. So I have made those bedrooms available. So 0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:42.680