Speaker 1: Love some Lontemer with de Love Baby Baby. I'm taken
Speaker 1: with the notion to talk today with an iconic recording artist,
Speaker 1: one whose music I've played over and over and over
Speaker 1: for years and years and years, songs dedicated by callers
Speaker 1: to their sweethearts, to those that they love with the
Speaker 1: sweetest of devotion. While I've been given the honorary title
Speaker 1: of Queen of sappy love songs, my guest today became
Speaker 1: known at a very early stage in her career, like
Speaker 1: before she was even twenty I think as the queen
Speaker 1: of Christian pop. She's spent over forty years so far
Speaker 1: the music world. She's racked up six Grammys, twenty six
Speaker 1: Dove Awards. It's been thirty years since Heart in Motion
Speaker 1: was released, Whi's included her biggest worldwide hit that I
Speaker 1: just you know, tried to sing a few little notes
Speaker 1: of baby Baby, a song she wrote about her baby,
Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about that today. She's going
Speaker 1: to be celebrating the album Heart in Motion all through
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one to thirty year anniversary. We are going
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Speaker 2: Hello there, Hey Delilah. I'm so sorry. I screw the
Speaker 2: time up. I'm just shoving some chili down my throat
Speaker 2: a fifteen more seconds to just take four.
Speaker 1: Big fights, Amy, take all all the time you need
Speaker 1: to finish your chili. I'll just I'll just entertain our
Speaker 1: listeners in the meantime. Go ahead. She's enjoying her homemade chili,
Speaker 1: her world famous homemade chili. I've heard about it. Michael W.
Speaker 1: Smith has bragged about it. But did she offer to
Speaker 1: share the recipe? No? No, Did she offer to send me, like,
Speaker 1: freeze some and send it in a sealed container or something?
Speaker 2: No? No, I shouldn't do that either.
Speaker 1: All right, I think she's done, Amy Grant, Welcome back
Speaker 1: from your chili bowl. Welcome to love someone with Delilah.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you that I was working on some some
Speaker 2: angry behavior.
Speaker 1: I saw a T shirt online the other day. I
Speaker 1: almost ordered it for my daughter Sheila. It says I'm
Speaker 1: sorry about what I said when I was hungry, And
Speaker 1: if it had said when I was hungry, I would
Speaker 1: have ordered it for her. Yes, yes, because she doesn't
Speaker 1: get hungry. She gets she goes from zero to hangry
Speaker 1: in five minutes. And she's got a little one who's
Speaker 1: almost three, who is just like her. I'm like, somebody
Speaker 1: find some protein right now. Find me some I don't care,
Speaker 1: some chicken strip something.
Speaker 2: Yep, I'm speaking my language.
Speaker 1: Sister. Welcome to love someone. Amy. It's been a while
Speaker 1: since we caught up. I think the last time I
Speaker 1: talked to you was when I saw you on your
Speaker 1: Christmas tour a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: Yes, I know, and I've seen your face recently with
Speaker 2: a People magazine article, and I wish I could just
Speaker 2: wrap arms around you.
Speaker 1: I wish you could do I would take that in
Speaker 1: a heartbeat. I was talking to to a lady I
Speaker 1: just love, a girl named Brie last night. She's spent
Speaker 1: her whole career in the movie industry, in the TV industry,
Speaker 1: and she said something that just blew my mind. She said,
Speaker 1: I almost didn't want to come to your house. I
Speaker 1: almost didn't want to get to know you. I said why.
Speaker 1: She said, because I've been so disappointed with people I've
Speaker 1: met through this industry, where you have these expectations of
Speaker 1: them and then you get to see, you know, behind
Speaker 1: the screen, they moved the curtain and they're just not real.
Speaker 1: I started laughing and I said, you know what, I
Speaker 1: am so blessed that I have people in my world
Speaker 1: in my life, in my career, in my inner circle,
Speaker 1: who are as real and as wonderful and genuine as
Speaker 1: you imagine them to be. And I was looking I
Speaker 1: had been looking online at some stuff that you've done
Speaker 1: because I was thinking about this interview. And you and
Speaker 1: Michael are that way. You are as kind and as
Speaker 1: beautiful and as real as somebody would imagine you to be.
Speaker 1: And you never in all the times I've seen you
Speaker 1: on stage, off stage, interviews, casually with your husband, with
Speaker 1: Michael W. Smith, you have consistently been a beautiful soul
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that about you.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Well, Hey, it's easier to be one person,
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how hard is that for people to pretend
Speaker 1: and to put on this act and then you know,
Speaker 1: when the cameras aren't rolling or whatever, to be somebody
Speaker 1: completely different. That's like, that's like a lot of energy.
Speaker 1: Unless you've got a multiple personality disorder. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you know it. And all of us
Speaker 2: that have public lives, we do have, like you said,
Speaker 2: a circle of people around us that know us. Nothing
Speaker 2: is a surprise. And on the days when you feel
Speaker 2: the lowest or you know, you have people that you
Speaker 2: trust to embrace all that too, you know, because everybody's
Speaker 2: pendulum swings wide and and you know, it's funny. I
Speaker 2: think when you have people in your life that have
Speaker 2: constantly been supportive and nurturing, that it makes me want
Speaker 2: to be that way to other people because I go,
Speaker 2: oh no, yeah, I had a big dose of that.
Speaker 2: I was born into a family of that, and everybody
Speaker 2: should have that.
Speaker 1: So so you have that obviously with your hobby. How
Speaker 1: many years twenty twenty years now you invents twenty.
Speaker 2: One years, I know, but I'm telling you, I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think we really felt like an old married
Speaker 2: couple until COVID, because we had a chance. You know,
Speaker 2: always he's packing a bag leaving town, I'm packing a
Speaker 2: bag leaving down and there was just always so much
Speaker 2: coming and going, and it was it was such a
Speaker 2: It was really one of the many hidden gifts of
Speaker 2: COVID for us to be in the same place for
Speaker 2: a whole year.
Speaker 1: Same here. My Hobby and I have been together, not
Speaker 1: twenty one years, but going on fourteen years married and
Speaker 1: almost went in the eighteen nineteen years together I don't
Speaker 1: even remember. But same with us because we live in
Speaker 1: two different states. His career is in one state and
Speaker 1: my studio and my life is in another state. And
Speaker 1: for our entire marriage, we've had a commuter marriage. And
Speaker 1: when COVID hit, I packed up the kids and headed
Speaker 1: to his ranch. He has a cattle ranch. It was weird.
Speaker 2: Okay, all I want to do is ask you a
Speaker 2: million details.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so let's just pretend we're not even recording this.
Speaker 1: What's the weirdest thing that you discovered about Vents that
Speaker 1: we can talk about during the shutdown or the biggest
Speaker 1: challenge that you guys had.
Speaker 2: I think the biggest discovery for me was that. And
Speaker 2: I'm not proud of this. I think the things about
Speaker 2: Vents that I wished were different when we were always
Speaker 2: coming and going because I would be away from him.
Speaker 2: And when now I see him, I would like project
Speaker 2: something onto him. Oh, he doesn't quite fit that projection.
Speaker 2: And what I found when I was with him all
Speaker 2: the time was that I felt like I really saw
Speaker 2: him day in and day out, the subtle, beautiful things
Speaker 2: about his personality day in and day out. And I
Speaker 2: know it sounds crazy, but to go twenty one years
Speaker 2: and this has never struck you before, but when you're
Speaker 2: always coming and going, like for instance, I feel like
Speaker 2: he saves his best material for me, funny, silly, but
Speaker 2: he starts every day kind and humorous every single day.
Speaker 2: Big talker, you know, he's not like he's a good listener.
Speaker 2: If I feel super energetic about something that's going on,
Speaker 2: like I want, I'll say, I just want you to
Speaker 2: know all about this. But he doesn't ask a lot
Speaker 2: of questions, and so I would find, you know, if
Speaker 2: we came together and he wasn't asking a lot of questions,
Speaker 2: I don't know, just be like, I wish you asked
Speaker 2: me more questions. I wish you were interested. But when
Speaker 2: you're together all the time, we just found our pattern
Speaker 2: of being together, and as crazy as it sounds, a
Speaker 2: lot of it was peaceful silence. And now when I'm
Speaker 2: away from him, I go, whow I missed that? It's crazy,
Speaker 2: Like I mean, I don't know if that rings true
Speaker 2: for you. He can talk, he can He also can
Speaker 2: talk and talk and talk, but I just have such
Speaker 2: an appreciation for I don't know, just the calm center.
Speaker 1: That do you notice how quiet I'm being?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Why do you are you relating to that.
Speaker 1: No, no, because there is no way I'm opening my
Speaker 1: mouth now. After that, I'm like, dang, that didn't go
Speaker 1: the way I would. Oh, he sounds so sweet and
Speaker 1: lovely and lovable. And here I was going to tell
Speaker 1: you how I didn't realize how grumpy my husband was
Speaker 1: since we've never lived together.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you it's so funny I'm telling you
Speaker 2: that discovery to go. I mean, I think Vince is
Speaker 2: it's harder on himself than he is on anybody else,
Speaker 2: but he is he just a kind soul.
Speaker 1: I think for Paul, because my husband is older and
Speaker 1: his children, he and his wife, his first wife, had
Speaker 1: five children and they're all grown and gone and very
Speaker 1: successfully living on their own. For the four girls. I
Speaker 1: lost my step son. He lost his only son December
Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen. But so when he came into my world,
Speaker 1: he had had already graduated in his mind from being
Speaker 1: a daily dad. Yeah, and already was a grandpa, you
Speaker 1: know when we met, and so was I. I was
Speaker 1: grandma when we met, but I had not finished raising
Speaker 1: the ones I had, and I've adopted six more since
Speaker 1: we met. And so when we lived apart, it was
Speaker 1: easy for him to be interactive and engaged for two
Speaker 1: or three or five or six days out of the month.
Speaker 1: But when we were all living together, nine of us
Speaker 1: in a twelve hundred square foot house, all of a
Speaker 1: sudden he realized why he had you know, only had
Speaker 1: five and gotten them out the door.
Speaker 2: Before Whoo, that's a lot going on. Yeah, that would
Speaker 2: be hard, and maybe this is maybe you guys found
Speaker 2: this Vince and I. The more concentrated time we spent together,
Speaker 2: we realize that we we are so different from each
Speaker 2: other in how we like to spend our time, in
Speaker 2: what energizes us. He has endless patience and stamina in
Speaker 2: the recording studio, endless stamina when it comes to something musical,
Speaker 2: perfecting a part, working on something, working on a song,
Speaker 2: And I'm like a dog in a backyard and forty
Speaker 2: squirrels have just been released.
Speaker 1: I squirrel, squirrel, Gotta go do this, gotta do that.
Speaker 1: So what are the sorts of things that you have
Speaker 1: that endless capacity? Because it's funny, my husband and I
Speaker 1: are actually very much alike in the things that we
Speaker 1: enjoy spending time doing. We both love big equipment, We
Speaker 1: both love like being in the dirt and landscaping and
Speaker 1: being out doors and being you know, down at the
Speaker 1: creek and planting trees. We both, you know, we were
Speaker 1: very much alike in that way. But I'm the same
Speaker 1: age you are. If I could still give birth, I
Speaker 1: would have ten more kids, and Paul's like, no, No,
Speaker 1: five was plenty for me. And now that I'm a
Speaker 1: stepdad to fifteen more, it's kind of a lot.
Speaker 2: It's a lot, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So what are the things that you enjoy? Like you said,
Speaker 1: he's got endless capacity for recording, what are the things
Speaker 1: that that you just could spend ten hours doing.
Speaker 2: I love cooking. I'm a lot more.
Speaker 1: Why are you so dang skinny? Then? Every time I
Speaker 1: see you, you just you're You're so beautiful and thin
Speaker 1: and gorgeous. I love cooking, and you can tell by
Speaker 1: looking at me.
Speaker 2: I I don't know what to say. I got a
Speaker 2: fast metable, I do, and I love to move. I
Speaker 2: love to hike. It would drive since crazy if I
Speaker 2: ask him to do what I love doing every day.
Speaker 2: And I think that's what I've really discovered, is I
Speaker 2: think when we were both younger, because we met in
Speaker 2: our thirties and now we're in our sixties, and I
Speaker 2: think we imagined that we would be inseparable because we
Speaker 2: were so drawn to each other. But what I found
Speaker 2: in the COVID year was that he's my favorite person
Speaker 2: to return to. But there's so many ways. I just
Speaker 2: love for my days to have purpose. I've got a
Speaker 2: farm that I love to share, and I share it
Speaker 2: in such an eclectic way. Is coming Sunday, We're having
Speaker 2: our very first elderly Day retreat. I met a filmmaker
Speaker 2: and he said, I want to take people from assisted living,
Speaker 2: like truly the elderly out to be barefoot around the
Speaker 2: campfire with a loved one, tell stories, have there be
Speaker 2: some music, and you know, so I'm just providing the place.
Speaker 1: What a precious, sweet way to share your blessings in
Speaker 1: a completely different way. I mean, when you share your music,
Speaker 1: you share your blessings. But think of the memories that's
Speaker 1: going to bring back for people who maybe grew up
Speaker 1: on a farm or had a farm, or went to
Speaker 1: their grandma's farm to be able to leave the confines
Speaker 1: of four walls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, especially after the year we've had. And this man, Glenn,
Speaker 2: I met him through a friend of a friend, and
Speaker 2: he's he makes documentaries and he's been in the music
Speaker 2: business as a graphic artist for years. And yeah, but
Speaker 2: just to go, oh my gosh, our paths crossed. So
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm always seeing the possibilities of enlarging
Speaker 2: the community circles, even though I get regenerated and rejuvenated
Speaker 2: in solitude. I'm an introvert that likes people anyway. But
Speaker 2: it's just like all those things are you know, that
Speaker 2: will lead to something else, that will lead to something else.
Speaker 2: I had a friend that started coming out to the farm,
Speaker 2: and now we've made connections with the Nashville Rescue Mission
Speaker 2: and we're getting ready to have a retreat there with
Speaker 2: ten women served by the Rescue Mission. And I'm so excited.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I have, believe it or not, twenty family
Speaker 2: tents in my basement because I'm such an outdoor freak.
Speaker 2: Twenty So I'm like, I get set the tents up
Speaker 2: in the backyard, I get to wash the tents. You know,
Speaker 2: here goes my engine. How are we going to make
Speaker 2: them all sleep comfortably? How are we going to do this?
Speaker 2: And then so they'll come out in the backyard, you know,
Speaker 2: while I'm stretching the tents out making sure we have
Speaker 2: all the polls, and he'll be like, I'm head to
Speaker 2: the golf course. You know, he loves he loves his patterns.
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure how to describe what I love.
Speaker 2: But it's just the matrix of all of our connectedness
Speaker 2: and how I believe we're all so essential to each
Speaker 2: other in how we connect what we offer. And one
Speaker 2: person has plentiful of something else that another person that
Speaker 2: they have scarcity of that, And so I'm all about,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, connected dots, just connected dots. There's everything
Speaker 2: we need if we could just communicate it.
Speaker 1: And so Stone Soup remember that story? Did you hear
Speaker 1: that story when you were little?
Speaker 2: Yes? I love that.
Speaker 1: That's what you are. You are, you are the chef
Speaker 1: of Stone Soup.
Speaker 2: Hmm. You could not have said anything to put a
Speaker 2: bigger smile on my face.
Speaker 1: That's what your gift is. I mean, obviously Amy Grant,
Speaker 1: who's one and how many Grammys and how many twenty
Speaker 1: six devil wards. But what you just described of figuring
Speaker 1: out who's got this talent, who's got this gift, who's
Speaker 1: got this need? Where is their scarcity? Where can my
Speaker 1: abundance flow into that scarcity. That's a stone soup chef.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what's funny because I think just talking about
Speaker 2: scarcity and abundance. I don't even know when this really
Speaker 2: felt like a lightning bolt in my brain. But I
Speaker 2: keep looking at like the situations in the world that
Speaker 2: feel like homelessness, or you just go, oh, something seem insurmountable.
Speaker 2: Some things, you know, respectful, race relations, you just name it.
Speaker 2: It's so easy to look at all of the failed
Speaker 2: attempts and the ongoing problems and just but I don't know,
Speaker 2: something has shifted in this last year in me, and
Speaker 2: I just go, what if every one of us were
Speaker 2: just willing to consider the possibility of saying a simple
Speaker 2: yes for good that came to us individually, uniquely to
Speaker 2: us that if we just said, I'm just going to
Speaker 2: risk saying yes, you know, I mean to me, that's
Speaker 2: where the adventure is. The adventure is starting a conversation
Speaker 2: in the elevator with someone that looks different from you. Amen,
Speaker 2: relax and say, how's your day going. If we all
Speaker 2: just did things.
Speaker 1: Differently, if we all said yes to the possibility of kindness,
Speaker 1: if we all said yes to the possibility of sharing,
Speaker 1: of not hoarding our resources of sharing whatever it is
Speaker 1: that God has blessed us with.
Speaker 2: Yes. And here's the other things. I think the first
Speaker 2: time you say yes, and I think, it's a mystery
Speaker 2: how it comes to you, whatever it is, just that
Speaker 2: it's like, huh, just out of the blue, it occurred
Speaker 2: to me to do this instead of that I don't
Speaker 2: even know what it was. But something I think that
Speaker 2: that's when the adventure begins, is the first time you
Speaker 2: go slightly outside of your own script, your own thermostat
Speaker 2: temperature controlled environment that we all have tried to create
Speaker 2: around ourselves, and it separates us from each other. But
Speaker 2: the first time you say, I'm a little nervous, but
Speaker 2: I'm going to show up at this table. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I have the skill set, but I'm going
Speaker 2: to try this thing.
Speaker 1: Everything you need to do, it will show up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like when I the first time I went to Africa, Amy,
Speaker 1: I was so scared. I was so I didn't even
Speaker 1: have a passport. I had only traveled out of the
Speaker 1: United States to Canada a couple of times and to
Speaker 1: Mexico a couple of times. That's it. I had no
Speaker 1: travel experience. I had no knowledge of what a developing
Speaker 1: country was like. And it was people at World Vision
Speaker 1: that said, why don't you you know? I went to
Speaker 1: them and asked them for help for somebody that had
Speaker 1: contacted me in West Africa, and they said, well, why
Speaker 1: don't you go and see what the conditions are like
Speaker 1: and see what you could do? And you might as
Speaker 1: well said why don't you get on a spaceship and
Speaker 1: go live on Mars. To me, it was just such
Speaker 1: a foreign like, no, I'm a single mom and I've
Speaker 1: got a career, And I said yes, yeah, And it
Speaker 1: changed everything. It changed everything.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's just saying yes, Oh my gosh, and look
Speaker 2: at didn't it make your entire life less gray? And
Speaker 2: you see the edges of technicolor. And the more you
Speaker 2: step into yes, the more vivid and vibrant in your
Speaker 2: life gets?
Speaker 1: Oh boy, did it get vivid? And did it get vibrant?
Speaker 1: And did it get filled with purpose and passion and joy?
Speaker 1: And six children and a whole different way of looking
Speaker 1: at things, a whole different understanding of family and dynamics
Speaker 1: and culture and music and traditions and food and everything.
Speaker 1: Everything changed the moment. It didn't even change the minute
Speaker 1: I got to Ghana. It changed the moment I said
Speaker 1: yes to the possibility of stepping outside that comfort zone. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So what was the biggest yes that you can think
Speaker 1: of that has has impacted you and your family that
Speaker 1: you said.
Speaker 2: Jilila, the way my brain works at two o'clock in
Speaker 2: the morning, I'll go. But that's the answer I should
Speaker 2: have said, but I just don't. My brain doesn't work
Speaker 2: that way. So I'm just going to say a recent
Speaker 2: yes was I have a friend. So all of our kids,
Speaker 2: you know, have launched five.
Speaker 1: And I can fix that for you. Can I can
Speaker 1: fix that for you. If you got that empty nest there,
Speaker 1: I can fill it right back up. Oh lord?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well so so the summer my father died at
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, I traveled to see two friends of mine
Speaker 2: prol college, one in North Carolina and one in New Hampshire,
Speaker 2: and I was so struck by their hospitality. It was
Speaker 2: so beautiful to me in its simplicity that it was
Speaker 2: all about the welcome. I came home and said, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm going to take these kids rooms and I'm going
Speaker 2: to uh, I'm going to get company, you know, new mattresses.
Speaker 2: I mean, most everybody took their beds. I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: going to go through I'm going to box up. You know,
Speaker 2: nobody needs seventh grade mass papers. They don't want them,
Speaker 2: you know, just to go through the clutter to make
Speaker 2: the rooms there, the old bedrooms just available. I was
Speaker 2: so moved by this trip when I was welcomed into
Speaker 2: people's homes. So I have made those bedrooms available. So
Speaker 2: events a lot of invitations. You know, hey, if you're
Speaker 2: come to town, young artists, young musicians. A friend of
Speaker 2: mine called and she said from She called from the Washington,
Speaker 2: DC area, and she said, a friend of mine's daughter
Speaker 2: is in a band and she and her bandmate are
Speaker 2: coming to Nashville. And she asked, do I know anybody there?
Speaker 2: And it was the first time it wasn't. I didn't
Speaker 2: know any of these people except my friend. And I thought,
Speaker 2: just say yes.
Speaker 1: Just say yes, Just say you got a room, you
Speaker 1: got a bedroom, you got a new comforter, Yes, yes
Speaker 1: you can come.
Speaker 2: Yes. But that might seem like not a big deal,
Speaker 2: But to somebody that it's one thing. Even if you can,
Speaker 2: you control your openness. Now, what I am saying at
Speaker 2: sixty is the things that come to me. I'm going
Speaker 2: to trust are for me, the things that come to me,
Speaker 2: like I don't have the I don't want to. I
Speaker 2: don't want to waste precious energy chasing something. But if
Speaker 2: it's meant for me, I mean, I work hard, trust me.
Speaker 2: But and so I said yes. Now, I told Vents, hey,
Speaker 2: we've got two girls are going to be like him
Speaker 2: very soon. And it was so beautiful that he was
Speaker 2: the one to greet them. That they they were so lovely.
Speaker 2: I now love their music. Thence had his birthday. They
Speaker 2: made his birthday pie, and I went, oh, my gosh. There.
Speaker 2: I feel so protective of them. And they're the ages
Speaker 2: of my children, and they're they're making beautiful music and
Speaker 2: I can think about them, I can pray for them
Speaker 2: the rest of their lives every time I hear their songs,
Speaker 2: and I'm so I'm just so glad to circle widened.
Speaker 2: And I'm so grateful to my friend that she asked me,
Speaker 2: you know. And I've got friends whose guest rooms are
Speaker 2: full every weekend. I mean, they're blearyot, they're exhausted from company,
Speaker 2: you know. So I mean, everybody has to find their way.
Speaker 2: But you know, hotels are expensive, and.
Speaker 1: When you're young and starting out and wanting to learn
Speaker 1: and grow. It's not even that hotels are expensive, but
Speaker 1: the value of your bring your heart into them. There's
Speaker 1: no way you can calculate that.
Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 1: We were just sharing a conversation about the power of
Speaker 1: saying yes, and I wanted to share an example of
Speaker 1: that with you. Yes, my son, Zach, the boy that
Speaker 1: the People magazine had asked me about, was somebody who
Speaker 1: said yes to every possibility. Yes, Yeah, I mean, he
Speaker 1: didn't even have no in his vocabulary. If there was
Speaker 1: an opportunity that presented itself, didn't matter how crazy, how dangerous,
Speaker 1: how silly, how foolish. Yes, Yes, I'll try it. Yes
Speaker 1: I'll climb it. Yes I'll go there. And a friend
Speaker 1: of mine called and said, have you heard the African
Speaker 1: Children's choir? You've been to Africa, you have a ministry
Speaker 1: in Africa? Have you heard them? I said, actually I have.
Speaker 1: It's been a few years and she said, well, they're
Speaker 1: going to be in a church in town today. She said,
Speaker 1: I just found out that they're going to be at
Speaker 1: this church. And I said, okay, what time and she
Speaker 1: said on in about half an hour. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm going to throw on a skirt and grab my
Speaker 1: kids and let's head out the door. So I grabbed
Speaker 1: my kids. We went down to the church. You know,
Speaker 1: knew several people there, and the African children's choir performed beautifully.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what a treat it was, And what
Speaker 1: a treat it was because at the time I had
Speaker 1: adopted four children out of Africa, a different region, a
Speaker 1: different country, but very much the same music, same culture.
Speaker 1: And afterwards I was talking with some people. I was
Speaker 1: standing there and the choir director came up to me
Speaker 1: and said, are you Delilah. I said yes. He says,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for the invitation. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: an invitation? He says, your son invited us over to
Speaker 1: your house. He said, you have a farm and that
Speaker 1: we could bring the kids in the choir over for lunch.
Speaker 1: He said, normally the church that we perform at does that,
Speaker 1: but this was a surprise. Today. We didn't even know
Speaker 1: we were coming here, and so the pastor didn't have
Speaker 1: time to organize anything. And your son said you would,
Speaker 1: And I look over at Zach, who was maybe eight nine,
Speaker 1: grinning ear to ear. He had invited twenty six children
Speaker 1: and ten advisors to our house for lunch.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I love this. Okay, So then, so
Speaker 2: tell me what your brain did.
Speaker 1: So my brain said, okay. I got to make a
Speaker 1: couple of quick phone calls. I called my husband, who
Speaker 1: wasn't home, and said, Paul, could you like maybe pick
Speaker 1: the dirty laundry up off the floor real quick, tidy
Speaker 1: up a little bit. I got to call a few
Speaker 1: people and I'm going to swing by the story. He said,
Speaker 1: what's going on. I said, oh, We've got some people
Speaker 1: coming over for lunch. And he's like, ooh, someone from
Speaker 1: the church. I said, well, you could say that twenty
Speaker 1: six children and ten advisors. And he's like, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: picking up the dirty laundry. And I went to the store,
Speaker 1: and because I had spent so much time in Africa,
Speaker 1: I knew what they would enjoy eating and had rice here.
Speaker 1: So just put on a huge pot of rice and
Speaker 1: cooked up some beans and started a fire out in
Speaker 1: the backyard and they roasted hot dogs and very very simple,
Speaker 1: simple meal. But they played and they sang, and they
Speaker 1: danced and they played with me my kids. And when
Speaker 1: it came time to go, my son that had invited
Speaker 1: them was crying, didn't want them to go. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: you just became a part of our family. You can't
Speaker 1: go now, you have to spend the night.
Speaker 2: Oh man, what an open heart.
Speaker 1: He was an open heart and he said like I said,
Speaker 1: he said yes to every possibility. And at his service,
Speaker 1: my sister said that she wanted to live with the
Speaker 1: same courage and abandonment that he had lived.
Speaker 2: His life with. That's inspiring. That's really beautiful.
Speaker 1: So your kids are grown and they have flown the nest.
Speaker 1: What are they doing?
Speaker 2: Oh goodness. Jenny Jenny Gill, My I do daughter. She's
Speaker 2: such a great singer. She toured with me for ten years.
Speaker 2: But she loves film and editing, so she started the
Speaker 2: production company and she's got a couple of videos on
Speaker 2: CMT right now. It's funny. You can be good at something,
Speaker 2: but that's not your the thing you're most passionate about,
Speaker 2: And she's good at a lot of things. But she
Speaker 2: is passionate about film, cameras, video and especially editing. And
Speaker 2: so we're just She has two kids, our grandkids, Wyatt
Speaker 2: and every six and three. And then I have a daughter, Millie,
Speaker 2: who is lovely and also a new bride, and she's just.
Speaker 1: And wasn't it Millie that you told me you wrote
Speaker 1: baby Baby for many years ago?
Speaker 2: Yes, Millie is like she's always been, like a concealed weapon.
Speaker 2: She's just under five feet, like she would thanks that
Speaker 2: everybody in the family's to looks at me. But she's
Speaker 2: got a wicked sense of humor. You know, once every
Speaker 2: few years she will say I love you. She is
Speaker 2: not you know who. She's just not. She's not wired
Speaker 2: that way. But Millie's the one that I came in.
Speaker 2: It was my birthday night, and she had cooked and
Speaker 2: I probably had worked, and there was a birthday cake
Speaker 2: cooked by her with candles on the table and photographs
Speaker 2: of my favorite friends, like scattered with flowers on the table.
Speaker 2: It's one o'clock in the morning, you know, I like, so.
Speaker 1: She made a little birthday party for you with your friends.
Speaker 2: She gave her kidney to her best childhood friend. I mean,
Speaker 2: so yeah, Then the baby girl. Karina is just singing
Speaker 2: every chance she gets. She's she's studying music in school,
Speaker 2: and and she just released her very first song. It's
Speaker 2: called Swallow the Sun. And she just goes by Karna,
Speaker 2: C O, R, R, I and A and Karina just
Speaker 2: she just has one song on Spotify. Its called Swallow
Speaker 2: her Son.
Speaker 1: So life is good, life is full. And how eager
Speaker 1: are you to get back out and be able to perform?
Speaker 2: Oh? I can't wait. I love what music does two people.
Speaker 2: I love what it does with people. I love just
Speaker 2: the connected feeling of everybody participating, whether they're singing along
Speaker 2: or just listening, but just involved in a song. I've
Speaker 2: done so many Zoom performances and it is not the same.
Speaker 2: It's just the same. Oh.
Speaker 1: Your energy, when your shoes come off, that's when that's
Speaker 1: when the magic starts to happen, when you're on stage
Speaker 1: and your energy. I love. I love the way that
Speaker 1: the last show that I went to, Jordan Smith and
Speaker 1: then Michael w and you, the way you played off
Speaker 1: each other and the energy that you shared with each
Speaker 1: other that we all became I'm a part of. Just
Speaker 1: it's the best. It's the best.
Speaker 2: It is you know it is. It's fun to make
Speaker 2: music with people that you love, and it's it and
Speaker 2: and to me, music just that's just a great backdrop
Speaker 2: for us an evening long conversation and yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: I can't wait. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully soon, hopefully soon. As soon as you get
Speaker 1: something booked and dates on the calendar, call me so
Speaker 1: I can we can talk about it on the radio
Speaker 1: and people can go flee and be a part of
Speaker 1: that evening long conversation with you, Amy, Thank.
Speaker 2: You, thank you. I actually do have shows booked now
Speaker 2: in August, September, October, November, December.
Speaker 1: So yay. Where how can folks find you? How can
Speaker 1: I find you?
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're all on my website, which I am
Speaker 2: not the one that put them on there, but I'm
Speaker 2: positive because I have the I've had people say, hey,
Speaker 2: I got I got tickets for your show at the Caverns,
Speaker 2: which is the underground theater that I've never played before.
Speaker 2: But a lot of these shows.
Speaker 1: Is it really a cavern? Yes?
Speaker 2: Oh coolture is going to be like whatever that underground temperature.
Speaker 1: Is, you know, cool cool. You'll want to wear a
Speaker 1: sweater or a parka over your pretty dress.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, so lots of shows all the way.
Speaker 2: I think the Christmas shows are already on sale and
Speaker 2: almost sold out, the twelve Christmas shows at the Rhyme,
Speaker 2: and I think people are just going, I can get out,
Speaker 2: I can go buy a picket or something, you know.
Speaker 2: So we're about to launch into a whole lot of
Speaker 2: musical fun.
Speaker 1: Well, everybody who has missed music, go see Amy, go
Speaker 1: see her shows. Thirty year anniversary of a fabulous album.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because we had we had a set
Speaker 2: list for the tour that didn't happen. But we'll be
Speaker 2: back in rehearsals in July. And this is the thirtieth
Speaker 2: anniversary of probably the largest selling record I've ever had,
Speaker 2: So I think we're going to go back and dust
Speaker 2: off a bunch of those songs. And you know, man,
Speaker 2: every year that goes by, I just pinched myself, going,
Speaker 2: I still get to do something I love. Now I've
Speaker 2: had to drop the keys. I can't make the same
Speaker 2: high notes I used to sing. But oh man, music
Speaker 2: is timeless.
Speaker 1: I just signed a long term contract for radio and
Speaker 1: the same thing I pinch myself, I get to keep
Speaker 1: I get paid to do what I love, to do
Speaker 1: what I love every night, yep, and talk to people
Speaker 1: that I love. I get to I get paid to
Speaker 1: do this. It's a good thing.
Speaker 2: It is. And you know, now there are generations that
Speaker 2: feel about you and your voice that it feels like
Speaker 2: coming home because you've been doing what you've been doing
Speaker 2: for a long time. That's really the payoff and the
Speaker 2: gift that nobody tells you when you start doing something
Speaker 2: young and you just don't ever stop doing it, that
Speaker 2: actually you do feel the impact, not with the whole world,
Speaker 2: but with a lot of people. You just have such
Speaker 2: a longevity of experiences together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. It's generational. And it's the same
Speaker 1: with your concerts. I mean, I took my kids and
Speaker 1: my grandkids to your last concert and I saw so
Speaker 1: many people that had three and four generations there loving
Speaker 1: you and singing along with every song because you know,
Speaker 1: we've been around the block three times maybe four.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: All right, enjoy your camp out, your big camp out
Speaker 1: with all your tents, Enjoy the seniors coming for the cookout,
Speaker 1: the barbecue in the backyard, and just be blessed, be
Speaker 1: blessed beyond measure. Thank you, thank you, honey, God, bless you.
Speaker 2: Great to be with you.
Speaker 1: What a delightful Congress station. Thank you again. Amy Grant
Speaker 1: popular and beloved contemporary Christian music artist. She often wrote
Speaker 1: and performed with Michael W. Smith started out in the
Speaker 1: eighties and she had a goal to become the first
Speaker 1: Christian singer songwriter who was also successful as a contemporary
Speaker 1: pop singer, and boy did she achieve that. Find a Way,
Speaker 1: Her album, released in nineteen eighty five, became the first
Speaker 1: non Christmas Christian song to hit Billboard's Top forty and
Speaker 1: reached number seven on the Adult Contemporary chart. She scored
Speaker 1: her first Billboard number one song a year later with
Speaker 1: the Next Time I Follow, a duet she did with
Speaker 1: Chicago's Peter Setera. For the following decades, she churned out
Speaker 1: hit after hit. Heart in Motion was released in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety one, it became a worldwide sensation. Five million copies
Speaker 1: were sold. She celebrated five top twenty hits, which became
Speaker 1: came some of the all time requests songs on My show.
Speaker 1: To this day, I get requests for baby Baby, every
Speaker 1: heartbeat good for me. That's what love is for. And
Speaker 1: I will remember you. Amy's musical career spans more than
Speaker 1: forty years and stretches from her gospel roots into becoming
Speaker 1: an iconic pop star. She's a songwriter, she's a television personality.
Speaker 1: Mostly she's a good person. I am so so fortunate
Speaker 1: to have been on this journey with her along the way,
Speaker 1: playing her music, taking dedications night after night for her songs,
Speaker 1: going to her shows. I can't even tell you how
Speaker 1: many Amy Grant Michael W. Smith concerts that I have
Speaker 1: been to over the years, and I can call her
Speaker 1: a friend. Amy is celebrating Heart in Motion's thirtieth birthday
Speaker 1: all year with fun throwbacks, reissues, outtakes, live version and more.
Speaker 1: You can find it all by checking in with Amy
Speaker 1: on Facebook at Amy Grant, Instagram at Amy Grant Official,
Speaker 1: and Twitter at Amy Grant. Amy thank you again for
Speaker 1: spending this time with us. Hopefully everyone listening to this
Speaker 1: podcast will also join me on the radio every night,
Speaker 1: and I'll be back with a new podcast shortly. God
Speaker 1: bless you be