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Speaker 1: or just dance Dance Dance addition, as the Bengals clinched

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Speaker 1: the AFC Norths with a heart stopping, come from behind

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Speaker 1: win over the Kansas City Chiefs. Coming up, you'll hear

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Speaker 1: Huss Marlena sang the national anthem on Sunday, and for

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Speaker 1: So Marlena, if you ever want to sing the first

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Speaker 1: would be an honor to have you. Now, let's get

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Speaker 1: to Sunday's game. It didn't start well for the Bengals

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Speaker 1: after the two teams traded punts on their opening drives.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes through a pair of touchdown passes to give

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Speaker 1: Kansas City a fourteen nothing lead. Tyreek Hill motions and

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Speaker 1: lines up in the slot to the right. Mahomes with

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Speaker 1: Teep down Field, caught in the end zone for the touchdown,

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Speaker 1: reeled in by DeMarcus Robinson. Mahomes fakes a handoff. He's

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Speaker 1: line Travis Kelsey with a touchdown catch. The Bengals were

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Speaker 1: down by two touchdowns in the first quarter and needed

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Speaker 1: a spark. Jamar Chase provided it on second down in

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Speaker 1: seven from their own twenty eight, trailing fourteen nothing. First quarter,

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Speaker 1: Burrow covered twelve yards. Jamar ran for the final sixty

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Speaker 1: after the catch, and it couldn't have come in a

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Speaker 1: better time. According to Zach Taylor, I would agree with

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Speaker 1: you there just because it was it was just pretty

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Speaker 1: then put his foot in the ground and outran the

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Speaker 1: coach that, that's just that's just Jamar Chase being Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 1: But a few minutes later the Chiefs answered with Patrick

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Speaker 1: and the Bengals answer again. The inventor of the dance,

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Speaker 1: Bengals won the toss and elected to defer, giving them

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Speaker 1: goal by Evan McPherson made it an eleven point deficit

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Speaker 1: So our time's gonna come. We just gonna calm down,

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Speaker 1: Here's Burrow. You know, if you're gonna flame one on one,

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Speaker 1: his brain. He's not about winning big regular season games.

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Speaker 1: You know, I know that that's that's why he's here.

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Speaker 1: He's a he was always playing for championships in high school,

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot of work to do. We're not

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Speaker 1: certainly a big step in the right direction today. And

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Speaker 1: then there's no question that Joe is at the forefront

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Speaker 1: The Bengals had a thirty one twenty eight lead, but

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Speaker 1: there were nearly twelve minutes remaining, and after punting on

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Speaker 1: back with six minutes to go and Burrow took charge.

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Speaker 1: coverage and Jamar Chase is a man among boys. That

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Speaker 1: thirty five yard pass put the Bengals well within field

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Speaker 1: Burrow is going to throw it four Chase. Chase has

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Speaker 1: for the first down. Real unreal. At the twelve yard

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Speaker 1: is getting close to Chad Johnson's all time record for

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Speaker 1: receiving yards in a game. Chad's record was two sixty

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Speaker 1: and Jamar broke it with eleven catches for two sixty six,

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Speaker 1: one thousand, four hundred twenty nine. That's twenty nine yards

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Speaker 1: more than the fourteen hundred posted by his former LSU

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Speaker 1: I know I could do it. I mean something, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I just gotta keep working. Still a long

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Speaker 1: way to go. After the game, Chase was shot to

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Speaker 1: learn that he had seven more receiving yards than Mahomes

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Speaker 1: a way I did. Oh sorry, sorry, excuse him up.

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Speaker 1: Apology accepted. After Chase's final catch of the day, three

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Speaker 1: straight Joe Mixon runs gave the Bengals a first and

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Speaker 1: goal at the one with two minutes to go. Burrow

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Speaker 1: and got stoned again. The Bengals handed it to Mixon

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Speaker 1: and he didn't get in. It was fourth and goal

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Speaker 1: inside the one, and rather than kick a field goal

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Speaker 1: to take the lead, Zach Taylor went for it and

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Speaker 1: a pass to Mixon didn't work. He got tackled inside

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Speaker 1: the one, but there were offsetting penalties and the Bengals

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Speaker 1: got to try again. The Chiefs crowd the middle of

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Speaker 1: the defensive line, Burrow back to throw, rolling to the right,

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Speaker 1: the face penalty gave the Bengals a first down at

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Speaker 1: the one with forty six seconds to go. The Chiefs

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Speaker 1: were out of timeouts, so the Bengals took the clock

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Speaker 1: down to two seconds and called on Evan Money mac

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Speaker 1: McPherson to attempt the game winner two seconds left. This

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Speaker 1: will be a twenty yard attempt from the middle of

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Speaker 1: huber Is ready catches the snap, puts it down. The

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Speaker 1: kick is on the day. Yeah, he's good. The Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Lapham So Lap the Bengals not only wrapped up the

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Speaker 1: it gives you, gives you a lot of options. And

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to go up there and try

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Speaker 1: to win the football game, though Be says, yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: you're trying to. There's depending on how other things turn out.

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Speaker 1: You know, you never know what seed you might be

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Speaker 1: able to achieve. If you know, you're still plan for

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Speaker 1: as high as seat as you possibly can. What an

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Speaker 1: awesome game. I mean to see Mahomes and Burrow trade

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Speaker 1: heavyweight uppercuts for four quarters tremendous theater, and they get

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Speaker 1: incredible results different ways. I mean, Joe Burrow is like

436
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Speaker 1: like the doctorate in football geometry. He reads angles, he

437
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: reads trajectory, he knows exactly all this stuff, you know,

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Speaker 1: computes to I have to put the ball right here,

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Speaker 1: and I'm good enough from forty five yards out to

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Speaker 1: put the ball right there and nowhere else. And he

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Speaker 1: did it over and over and over, or as Mahomes

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Speaker 1: just throws I mean rockets. He has no trajectory or

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Speaker 1: little trajectory on his football, and man, that guy, I'm sure,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure many a receiver have a cross on their

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Speaker 1: chest from when that ball has slipped through their hands,

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Speaker 1: you know, and in the tip of that football just

447
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: leaves a little tattoo on your chest. He is something

448
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Speaker 1: to watch Strow the football. But I think they're both

449
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Speaker 1: incredibly intelligent. But honestly, from the neck up, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I guess Tom Brady obviously he's done

451
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Speaker 1: it for so long and he is so brilliant, But

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Speaker 1: there's not very many guys from the neck up that

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Speaker 1: I would take over Joe Burrow. I don't think i'd

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Speaker 1: take Brady. I mean, at this point, how much longer

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Speaker 1: is he gonna do it? Joe Barrow is on the

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Speaker 1: initial stages. I mean, when you think about what he

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Speaker 1: and Jamar Chase can do. Twenty five and twenty one

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Speaker 1: years old, My goodness, I mean, those numbers could be sick.

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Speaker 1: They really could. In our first five years together as

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Speaker 1: broadcast partners, the Bengals went to the playoffs. They've missed

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Speaker 1: the last five. Now, this would be nice to start

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Speaker 1: another year of at least another streak of at least

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Speaker 1: five years. That's right, the tiebreaker five good, five not

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Speaker 1: so good, and let's let's make this the beginning of

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Speaker 1: a run. I just felt so good too, to see

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Speaker 1: the just childlike, raw exuberance of Zach Taylor, the coaches,

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Speaker 1: the players. I mean, I'm telling you, Dan, I've been

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Speaker 1: fortunate enough to experience it. There is no better feeling

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Speaker 1: than the unbridled joy that you feel as a grown

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Speaker 1: man playing a kid's game and working out the way

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Speaker 1: that you want it to work out when there's so

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Speaker 1: much on the line. And uh, it's just has been

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Speaker 1: said so many times and It's true, there's not another

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Speaker 1: business like it. I mean, you can you can close

475
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Speaker 1: deals big you know, big deals and all that, and

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Speaker 1: you can, you can feel tremendous accomplishment. But that emotional,

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Speaker 1: that raw emotion, that unbridled whatever, that uh, the adrenaline

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Speaker 1: rush is just unbelievable. I don't think these guys are

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to sleep tonight. I know, when we

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Speaker 1: won the m Our first playoff, qualified for the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: no sleep, when we beat when we win against Buffalo

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Speaker 1: first round, no sleep, Freezer Bowl, no sleep for a

483
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Speaker 1: lot of reasons. And then lose the Super Bowl. No

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Speaker 1: sleep because I'm pissed, but you know a different reason.

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Speaker 1: But those those even even though the utter depressed feeling

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Speaker 1: of losing a Super Bowl, I don't think i'd I

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Speaker 1: don't think i'd uh, I'd try to change the outcome, obviously,

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Speaker 1: but even knowing that I wasn't maybe gonna feel that joy.

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Speaker 1: Just to feel what you feel in those situations is amazing.

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Speaker 1: It really is. More On Sunday's when joined Lap and

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Speaker 1: Lance McCalister for Bengals Line Monday night from six to

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Speaker 1: nine on seven hundred WLW. Now time for this week's

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Speaker 1: fun Facts segment, and it's not with a player this week. Instead,

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Speaker 1: it's a member of the front office talk for some

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Speaker 1: fun facts of the Bengals Director of Strategy and Engagement,

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Blackburn. You attended your first Bengals game when you

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Speaker 1: were seven, not seven years old, seven days old. You

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Speaker 1: obviously don't remember that, but what are some of your

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Speaker 1: earliest Bengals memories. I remember being in the pool at

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Speaker 1: Wilmington College during training camp. That was I think the

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Speaker 1: first time I ever swam. I remember dressing up in

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Speaker 1: the like little kid cheerleader costumes with my sister. That

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Speaker 1: was both on game days and on weekdays. And I

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Speaker 1: just remember the yellow seats at Riverfront Stadium. And I think,

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Speaker 1: really until we got to Paul Brown Stadium was when

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Speaker 1: I was more remembering like the game game day atmosphere. Yeah, Riverfront,

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Speaker 1: I just remember the yellow seats. For some reason, those

508
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Speaker 1: really stood out. They made a strong impression. Former Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl quarterback Jeff Blake was your first favorite Bengals player.

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Speaker 1: Do you even remember why? I mean probably the touchdown passes,

511
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Speaker 1: but I'm saying that after watching a bunch of footage

512
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Speaker 1: recently with Jeff Blake, and the Moonballs and Jake and Blake, like,

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Speaker 1: that's all stuff that I've learned honestly coming back here,

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Speaker 1: so I can say maybe subconsciously the touchdowns, but I

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Speaker 1: just I loved Jeff Blake and I loved his smile.

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Speaker 1: He does have a great smile. I agree with you. There.

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Speaker 1: We're chatting with Elizabeth Blackburn. You were born a year

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Speaker 1: after your great grandfather Paul Brown passed away. Have you

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Speaker 1: spent a lot of time reading about him, asking your

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Speaker 1: grandfather about him, and learning about his life and legacy.

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Speaker 1: I have, and I know I have so much more

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Speaker 1: to learn. I started reading his book by Jack Clary

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Speaker 1: before I moved home last year. And you know, I've

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Speaker 1: really enjoyed talking to my grandpa about his dad, through

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Speaker 1: the Ring of Honor project and just being around more.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like I'm just scratching the surface. Your grandfather,

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Speaker 1: Mike Brown, gives you credit for helping to convince him

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Speaker 1: that it was time to start the Ring of Honor.

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Speaker 1: Did you make a formal presentation or was it just

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Speaker 1: casual conversation. Yes, I did make a formal presentation. I

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Speaker 1: mean several I think my grandpa, my family, and many

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Speaker 1: other people that I have the pleasure of working with

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Speaker 1: here know that I came from a consulting background and

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Speaker 1: love PowerPoint presentations, so it was it was a mix.

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Speaker 1: I definitely gave formal presentations to outline how it would work,

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Speaker 1: and he was really engaged and wanted to know the

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Speaker 1: detail and know how thoughtful we were being about the

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Speaker 1: selection process, about the induction process in ensuring that it

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Speaker 1: would remain prestigious into the future. So that was a

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Speaker 1: mix of formal presentations and I did a ton of

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Speaker 1: research on Bengals history and operational stuff as well as

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Speaker 1: just some really fun conversations over lunch and before work

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Speaker 1: in the morning and having our own internal debates of

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Speaker 1: who we would want to see and fun conversations like

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Speaker 1: that as well. We have something in common. In the

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen playoff game against the Steelers when Vantes Berfeckt

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Speaker 1: intercepted the pass with a minute and a half to

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Speaker 1: go and it looked like the Bengals had won, I've

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Speaker 1: said many times that was the happiest moment of my life.

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Speaker 1: We're talking my wedding day, the birth of my son.

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Speaker 1: I am only half joking, that's how happy I was.

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Speaker 1: I read an interview where you said, I've never felt

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Speaker 1: that high. Did that moment impact what you're trying to

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Speaker 1: create at Paul Brown Stadium? It was the best feeling

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Speaker 1: of my life, and I want to replicate that, and

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Speaker 1: I want that feeling to last way longer for me

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00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: and so so so so many other people. What does

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Speaker 1: a packed Paul Brown Stadium and the crowd going nuts

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Speaker 1: due for the city of Cincinnati. Honestly, Dan, it's similar

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00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: to that last question, because it creates a feeling and

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Speaker 1: an energy and a community you cannot get anywhere else.

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Speaker 1: For fans who have been to games, hopefully this red

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00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: and eates, and for fans who haven't, I would really

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Speaker 1: encourage you to come check out a game because in person,

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Speaker 1: being surrounded by sixty five thousand other people, being a

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Speaker 1: part of something way bigger than yourself, it just feels

567
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: different and it's amazing and it literally gives me chills

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00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: and like this incredible mix of emotions you just can't

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Speaker 1: get in any other setting. You published a mission statement

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Speaker 1: in February and it included the following, we want to

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Speaker 1: bring Super Bowl titles to Cincinnati. We need to. It

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00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: is the singular purpose that drives my family and the

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Speaker 1: one goal at the top of my mind every day.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals haven't historically said things like that, there's been

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Speaker 1: kind of a Midwestern modesty that is admirable in a way,

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Speaker 1: But did you think it was important to change that?

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Speaker 1: I did because I felt like things were getting lost

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Speaker 1: in translation. I think that culture and people have shifted

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Speaker 1: a bit, and while I absolutely want to continue Midwestern

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Speaker 1: modesty and humility, I was sensing that people were not

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Speaker 1: appreciating modesty and instead under interpreting things in ways that

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Speaker 1: were not correct, and I felt that it was important

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Speaker 1: to give our fans clarity and certainty that there is

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Speaker 1: no doubt what this franchise is about. Let's talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about your background. You went to Dartmouth. Was

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Speaker 1: it nice to have some anonymity and not be known

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Speaker 1: for your connection to the Bengals. Yes, it was critical.

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00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: It gave me an opportunity to be myself and ultimately

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Speaker 1: proved to myself that the Bengals were core to my identity,

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Speaker 1: and I loved them, and I loved Cincinnati, and I

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Speaker 1: wanted to come back on my own volition and not

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Speaker 1: because it was the only thing I knew. It was

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Speaker 1: also really important to go be in a setting and

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Speaker 1: make friends and prove that they liked me and trusted

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Speaker 1: me as a person without knowing anything about me. And

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Speaker 1: that's something, honestly, I kind of hope and try to

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Speaker 1: take here, even though I know that's not fully possible,

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Speaker 1: but proving myself as an individual is really important to me.

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Speaker 1: How did you follow the games? Is there a Bengals

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Speaker 1: bar in Hannover, New Hampshire? There are like no bars

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Speaker 1: in Hannah. Now I feel like Joe Burrow and I'm

602
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: probably gonna get slighted by anyone who loves Hanover, New Hampshire.

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Speaker 1: There are wonderful restaurants and fraternity and sorority houses in Hannoveringhamshire.

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Speaker 1: Following the Games at Dartmouth was one of the kind

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Speaker 1: of most special and cool connection points to my grandpa

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Speaker 1: because my grandpa has a friend from Dartmouth and actually

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Speaker 1: from Cleveland. They were a year or two apart and

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00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: played football together and grew up together in Cleveland and

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Speaker 1: both went to Dartmouth, and his friend still lived in

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Speaker 1: Hanover when I was in school and he had Sunday

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Speaker 1: ticket and he and his wife would invite me and

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Speaker 1: one of my friends who I went to high school

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Speaker 1: with and went to Dartmouth with me as well as

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Speaker 1: now my fiance. The three of us kind of became

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Speaker 1: this crew that would go over every Sunday and watch

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Speaker 1: the Bengals games at my grandpa's friend's house, and it

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00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: was wonderful to get to know him. It was like

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Speaker 1: a new connection point to my grandpa and my family

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Speaker 1: and his time at Dartmouth, which was really cool. And

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Speaker 1: it was also a really nice home experience away from

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Speaker 1: home when you're just at college seeing other twenty two

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Speaker 1: year olds all day, and instead I would go over

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Speaker 1: and they would cook his dinner and it was the sweetest,

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Speaker 1: most wonderful way to spend a Sunday. I'm sure it

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Speaker 1: was awesome for your grandfather's friend too. You majored in

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Speaker 1: engineering and economics. Were those subjects that you were interested

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Speaker 1: in or were you specifically thinking of things that would

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Speaker 1: be helpful if you chose a career in the NFL? Both?

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Speaker 1: And I'm very lucky to say that I love problem

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Speaker 1: solving and I love kind of like real world operations,

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Speaker 1: and that's where economics came in. I love business, and

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Speaker 1: I also love teamwork, and engineering proved to have a

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Speaker 1: lot of group projects and teamwork related to that work.

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Speaker 1: So those were two things I enjoyed. There were things

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Speaker 1: I was naturally good at, and I knew that they

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Speaker 1: would set me up, not necessarily for working in sports,

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00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: but I knew that those would give me really good

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Speaker 1: tools to apply to just have a successful career after college.

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Speaker 1: Your mom, Katie has been called one of the most

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Speaker 1: powerful women in the NFL. She cringed when I brought

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Speaker 1: that up in one of these conversations, but it's undeniably true.

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Speaker 1: What do you admire most about your mom The fact

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Speaker 1: that she cringed when you told her that, Because she

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Speaker 1: is the most amazing role model I could ever ask for,

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Speaker 1: and yet she is so humble about it. It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of deep. If you could meet anybody

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Speaker 1: in history, athlete, actor, statesman, religious figure, living or deceased,

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Speaker 1: who would that person be? Just one? Now, if you

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Speaker 1: want to go with more than one, that's fine, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I've gotten this question as a nice breaker before of

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Speaker 1: like what three people would you eat dinner with? And

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Speaker 1: that was actually one of the first times I ever

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Speaker 1: sort of made the connection of how disconnected I was

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Speaker 1: to my great grandfather, and so I pick him. I

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Speaker 1: definitely would pick Paul Brown, and then if I get

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Speaker 1: a few others, I would love to sit down with

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Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth of England. She had such a long reign

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Speaker 1: in a time when female leaders were nearly unheard of

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Speaker 1: and was so successful. And maybe like Galileo, you know,

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Speaker 1: I get the sense that your great grandfather, Paul Brown

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Speaker 1: and Galileo would hit it off. Both geniuses, obviously, but

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Speaker 1: inventors who envision things that nobody else had thought of exactly.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I wanted to give you multiple because

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Speaker 1: I think the inter room dynamics would make it way

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Speaker 1: more interesting than you just getting to talk to one person.

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Speaker 1: See at my dream table, I'm just sitting there and listening,

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Speaker 1: yes exactly. I hope to not say anything except for

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Speaker 1: can I top off your glass? All right, you are

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Speaker 1: off the hot seat. I appreciate your time. Happy holidays,

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Speaker 1: and enjoy the rest of what's been a great season.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Dan and Jude. That's going to do it

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