Speaker 1: It is Thursday, July. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. And
Speaker 1: now a guy who treats adversity like a piece of
Speaker 1: meat Jane Peace Shadrick. Uh is it medium rare? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Welcome in Jaguar's Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick
Speaker 1: from a home studio. Jeff Loguman from his home studio.
Speaker 1: And with the power of technology, Jeff, you and I
Speaker 1: can actually look each at each other over a video screen.
Speaker 1: We're taking steps towards the season. What's up wise? How hard?
Speaker 1: It's kind of odd. I mean, here we are, the
Speaker 1: end of July and me and you were having this
Speaker 1: conversation a minute ago. Does it really feel like football season?
Speaker 1: Doesn't feel like it's it's time to have a mini camp?
Speaker 1: You know, I mean that's right now. It is weird.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, it's been a year like nothing else.
Speaker 1: And and typically you have so much build up to
Speaker 1: the season to where you have, you know, after the
Speaker 1: draft and free agency, then you have many camps and
Speaker 1: voluntary workouts and then the players report, and then when
Speaker 1: they report, there's cameras and fanfare and everything else. Well,
Speaker 1: you kind of missed a big block of that, so
Speaker 1: it almost feels like, you know, we're missing something, but
Speaker 1: but here we are. And uh, it's a different year certainly,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be a different year in a
Speaker 1: lot of different ways. Well here from Doug Moron of course,
Speaker 1: in this show recap his media availability. It was earlier
Speaker 1: today that Doug Maron show coming up at five o'clock
Speaker 1: today as well, so we'll hear straight from the head coach,
Speaker 1: and he touched on this a little bit today. Two
Speaker 1: logs is, you know, it doesn't feel like preseason. It
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like any of that right now because there's
Speaker 1: this ramp up time and then there's not a game
Speaker 1: in two weeks, and so it's a totally different, almost
Speaker 1: a collegiate type feel. And for Doug, he's been through
Speaker 1: this on the college side before, where there's no freest
Speaker 1: season games, you gotta figure out your roster and you're
Speaker 1: too deep at that point. Obviously, it's a different world
Speaker 1: here in the NFL. But he can refer to some
Speaker 1: notes from the past, which is a good thing for Doug. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what notes are you referring to and you're talking
Speaker 1: about managing a roster when you have COVID nineteen affecting
Speaker 1: your entire roster and the way you do business. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: there's nothing that you can pull from your history and
Speaker 1: it's gonna help you handle this other than you have
Speaker 1: to sit there and try to figure out every conceivable,
Speaker 1: every conceivable possibility that could happen to your roster. And
Speaker 1: this year is very unique in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 1: And that, first of all, will the season happen without
Speaker 1: any kind of interruption? I think that's gonna be very
Speaker 1: interesting to see if it can happen. Number two is
Speaker 1: that now you have coaches and general managers that are
Speaker 1: having to manage a completely different thing than just the
Speaker 1: x is and the ohs and the Jimmy's and the jos.
Speaker 1: I mean, now you're talking about managing any roster in case,
Speaker 1: all sudden you have an outbreak of COVID nineteen on
Speaker 1: your football team. So now you have to make the decisions.
Speaker 1: How do we handle our day to day business. How
Speaker 1: do we conduct practice, How do we conduct meals, How
Speaker 1: do we conduct meetings? How do we conduct practice? Do
Speaker 1: we isolate a quarterback just in case we have a
Speaker 1: quarterback room that comes down with COVID? I mean there's
Speaker 1: so many different decisions and there's no roadmap that you
Speaker 1: can refer back to to figure out what's the best
Speaker 1: way to go about it. But I will say this,
Speaker 1: the football teams in the National Football League that are
Speaker 1: the best managed are going to be the most successful
Speaker 1: in a year like this. Here's what's coming up on
Speaker 1: the program today. We'll recap that Doug Maroon media availability,
Speaker 1: players reporting to camp at least for testing. The veterans
Speaker 1: are not in the building yet. The rookies are, though
Speaker 1: the ones who have passed three COVID nineteen tests are
Speaker 1: allowed in the next steps moving ahead over the next
Speaker 1: week's we'll discuss that senior writer John O's your schedule
Speaker 1: to join us as well, and about fifteen minutes will
Speaker 1: recap Doug morons press conference today. Let's hear from the
Speaker 1: head coach logs. How about it? You know, and you
Speaker 1: just touched on this, how different the environment is? What
Speaker 1: is a normal day like? And how does a normal
Speaker 1: day change? For head coach Doug Burrow. There there are
Speaker 1: so many changes the rock that has taken place as
Speaker 1: far as just your normal day, I mean normal is
Speaker 1: out of the really really out of the picture, you know,
Speaker 1: of the things that we're doing UM, as far as
Speaker 1: you know coming in with the testing procedures. UM, you know,
Speaker 1: arrows on the hallway, signs on the hallway, UM, you know,
Speaker 1: split locker rooms, split you know, weight rooms, different different areas,
Speaker 1: you know, just to create that space. Now logs. I
Speaker 1: have not been in the building, at least in the
Speaker 1: Jaguars part of the building since March nineteen, so I
Speaker 1: haven't seen these arrows and all these hallways. But it
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. They have to do everything
Speaker 1: to the book, and the book is big of what
Speaker 1: the league and everybody's put together try to make this
Speaker 1: social distancing possible. In an NFL locker room, it's tough
Speaker 1: to do with ninety guys around there. Well, well it is. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: the Jaguars have a facility that is the NFL Stadium,
Speaker 1: which has multiple locker rooms, that has a lot of
Speaker 1: room really to handle this type of situation. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of football teams that don't have the upgraded facility,
Speaker 1: that don't have the ability to say, hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: let's go use the South locker room, and hey, guess what,
Speaker 1: let's go use the locker room. The new locker room
Speaker 1: that they built on the other side of the stadium.
Speaker 1: So the Jaguars are fortunate in a lot of different
Speaker 1: ways because of the facility that they are within, and
Speaker 1: also they have the ability to go outside and utilize
Speaker 1: the stadium seating area that's got a capacity of sixty
Speaker 1: five plus thousand seats, and so you've got a lot
Speaker 1: of flexibility there to where you can actually have a
Speaker 1: meeting and still be able to abide by all the
Speaker 1: different social distancing aspects of the requirements of the league.
Speaker 1: Now you said you haven't seen all these things in
Speaker 1: the hallway, JP, Just imagine what it's like at the
Speaker 1: grocery store. You got one signs, right, I mean, going
Speaker 1: down aisles and then when you get to the cash
Speaker 1: register and says stand here, stand here, staying here. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's any different for the NFL teams
Speaker 1: right now to where they have a lot of guidelines
Speaker 1: just like that in place for them. Interesting stuff, and
Speaker 1: you know, but everybody has to follow it to a t.
Speaker 1: And that's this is a discussion we'll have a little
Speaker 1: later too. That's inside the building. You can control inside
Speaker 1: the building. The real question will be when guys leave
Speaker 1: the building go home. That's really when this thing will
Speaker 1: will turn one way or the other, he'll see he
Speaker 1: again from Doug Barone. No preseason games this year, that's
Speaker 1: the big change. The players Association and the league came
Speaker 1: together on that. So how does that change his preparation
Speaker 1: leading into the regular season? When I knew there was
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, um possibly not playing preceding games,
Speaker 1: I wind up breaking out you know the stuff that
Speaker 1: I did in college and looked at it kind of
Speaker 1: reminded myself of you know how, you know, how I've
Speaker 1: done it, you know, personally before and then you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's for me, it's it's it's very easy
Speaker 1: to manage, you know, and getting those situations, getting you know,
Speaker 1: that type of experience, getting that type of you know,
Speaker 1: live action, let's say, for lack of a better word,
Speaker 1: Um So I think I'm I feel very comfortable as
Speaker 1: far as that part. Look, how difficult is this, at
Speaker 1: least from the organizational perspective to evaluate talent on the team.
Speaker 1: We'll hear from the player's side in a moment, But
Speaker 1: in terms of selecting guys on this roster, how difficult
Speaker 1: is it to to see anything when you can't play games? Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that Doug says that, hey, look,
Speaker 1: he's very comfortable with what what he's gonna be able
Speaker 1: to do. I had a hard time understanding how comfortable
Speaker 1: he is. I think he's just saying that because he
Speaker 1: doesn't want his team to realize that this is very different,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't want them to think that this is
Speaker 1: anything but the best way for any but any football team.
Speaker 1: I think the reality is that, look, if you knew
Speaker 1: you weren't going to have preseason games, fine, now we
Speaker 1: can go ahead and we can ramp up the practices.
Speaker 1: We can go to semi live contact and practice. But
Speaker 1: here's the reality. You have this whole ramp up period
Speaker 1: that's taken away from the total amount of time that
Speaker 1: you have the players on the field four and the
Speaker 1: amount of padded practices that you're gonna have. So here's
Speaker 1: the thing. How are you going to find a replacement
Speaker 1: for four games? You can't, But you can't. So you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to make a lot of personnel decisions about
Speaker 1: your football team based on faith. I mean, that's the reality,
Speaker 1: and based on very little sample size of what you
Speaker 1: have from the players on your roster. That's the reality,
Speaker 1: and that's certainly a big change from in years past,
Speaker 1: and there's been a lot of talk about how the
Speaker 1: undrafted guys in NFL history have had that opportunity and
Speaker 1: in the preseason has afforded them that opportunity of getting
Speaker 1: more exposure. I don't think there's any doubt that that's
Speaker 1: a reality, and there's gonna be a lot of players
Speaker 1: that slipped through the cracks. But the one thing that
Speaker 1: you do have this year is that you do have
Speaker 1: the expanded roster with the practice squad, and I think
Speaker 1: that will help a little bit. Now, it may it
Speaker 1: may take some time to unearth some of those gems,
Speaker 1: but I think you'll still be able to find them
Speaker 1: because of the practice squad and a little bit of
Speaker 1: expanded roster there in also because if you've got a
Speaker 1: guy that goes on the COVID nineteen list, okay, you
Speaker 1: can replace them on the active roster and still have
Speaker 1: a guy on the practice squad. For this organization, it
Speaker 1: might be a little more challenging than most a very
Speaker 1: young team. Twelve draft picks, eighteen undrafted players currently on
Speaker 1: the roster, and for Doug Morone, as you just touched
Speaker 1: on logs, Doug today earlier knows the challenge for young
Speaker 1: players to make not just this team, but any team
Speaker 1: this year. This is probably, um, probably gonna be one
Speaker 1: of the more challenging times for a young player, uh
Speaker 1: to make a football team. You know, one is because
Speaker 1: of opportunities. The other is going to be you know,
Speaker 1: a young football player, um that may you know, you
Speaker 1: may have some better players ahead of him, but not
Speaker 1: be able to play preseason games, to get on film
Speaker 1: to you know, maybe get picked up by another team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it changes everything. We've just touched on it. The addition
Speaker 1: of some spots in the practice squad helps you a
Speaker 1: little bit in this case. But man, this is not ideal.
Speaker 1: It's certainly not ideal for anybody in the league. And
Speaker 1: if you're an undrafted rookie that's on the bubble to
Speaker 1: begin with before games start, then you may not even
Speaker 1: make it to the cutdown in weeks. Look when you're
Speaker 1: when you're an undrafted rookie, you're already on the bubble.
Speaker 1: I mean you're not gonna you know, maybe be on
Speaker 1: the bubble. You are on the bubble bubble when you
Speaker 1: walk in the door. And the reality is this Jiguars
Speaker 1: football team is incredibly young, and they're going to be
Speaker 1: evaluating a lot of incredibly young players, and I think
Speaker 1: it would make a big difference if you're talking about
Speaker 1: a veteran football team like the Kansas City East. They've
Speaker 1: got veterans across the board, but you're talking about a
Speaker 1: totally different animal with his Jaguars football team, and other
Speaker 1: teams that are very similar to the Jaguars that are
Speaker 1: in a rebuilding mode and they have committed to youth,
Speaker 1: You're gonna make a lot of decisions based on very
Speaker 1: little sample side. I think the teams that are going
Speaker 1: to be more set up I think for this year
Speaker 1: to have success or one that have had stability within
Speaker 1: the organization and have a veteran presence in their locker room,
Speaker 1: the guys that have been there and done that. When
Speaker 1: you have a roster that there's a lot of guys
Speaker 1: that haven't been there and done that, a lot of
Speaker 1: decisions are gonna have to be made based on faith,
Speaker 1: and a lot of those decisions aren't going to be
Speaker 1: the right ones just because you don't have enough evidence
Speaker 1: or visual evidence to confirm or deny whatever you are
Speaker 1: expecting to see how a certain player so that's just
Speaker 1: the reality with young teams. You're gonna make you You're
Speaker 1: gonna make mistakes, especially in a year like this year.
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Speaker 1: Us today from his home studio with is that it
Speaker 1: looks like a gun safe behind you. That's okay. And
Speaker 1: John Osier is joining us from his home studio. I
Speaker 1: don't see a gun case behind you, John, what's up? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: still trying to figure out this, uh eight months into
Speaker 1: this pandemic that it is eight years still trying to
Speaker 1: figure out Skype evidently. So here you are. Yeah, good
Speaker 1: to see you. Oh and glad you're along with us here,
Speaker 1: you know. By the way, before we get into the
Speaker 1: jaguar stuff, there's a little breaking news in college football.
Speaker 1: The Ross Ellinger from Sports Illustrated is just tweeted and
Speaker 1: said that Southeastern Conference presidents have adopted a plan to
Speaker 1: play a ten game conference only scheduled this fall. The
Speaker 1: kickoff date would be September. The SEC championship game would
Speaker 1: be December nineteen. That just came down during the commercial
Speaker 1: time out. So that's one sport off to the side,
Speaker 1: you know. And John we talked about this a little
Speaker 1: bit this morning. The way different sports are handling this pandemic. Um,
Speaker 1: NBA has the bubble, NHL has two different bubbles. UH, NFL,
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball do not College football as of right now,
Speaker 1: it's they're trying to Y're gonna play or not some
Speaker 1: of these leagues. Um, you know the the that's the
Speaker 1: challenge of this NFL thing that the amount of people
Speaker 1: involved in the amount of people coming and going from
Speaker 1: buildings shot is tough. Yeah, I'd probably be more curious
Speaker 1: Jeff as a former player, uh, how he would feel
Speaker 1: about just the logistics of because he's been more inside
Speaker 1: of it than I have in his life that you know,
Speaker 1: haven't been around the league for twenty five years. The
Speaker 1: thought of trying to get like during training camp, you've
Speaker 1: got a hundred and fifty semi people that you are
Speaker 1: trying to move around, and it's probably you know, you're
Speaker 1: the best correlation is trying to it is the military correlation.
Speaker 1: You're trying to move people impacts and they're trying to
Speaker 1: do with social distance. But there's just so many people
Speaker 1: that you've got to get involved with it. You know.
Speaker 1: I get when fans who are outside of it say, well,
Speaker 1: they should just do the bubble, because that's the best
Speaker 1: way to do it. Look at baseball, look at basketball.
Speaker 1: But with those sports, you're talking about short periods of
Speaker 1: time comparatively, maybe four or five weeks for most teams, Jeff,
Speaker 1: to try to do it over a five month period
Speaker 1: with the logistics of the NFL, I get that maybe
Speaker 1: you could try it, but it just seems like a
Speaker 1: Garganelan lift. Well, it's a it's a Gargangelan task, and
Speaker 1: on top of that, you can control them, you know,
Speaker 1: while they're in your little bubble. But then once you
Speaker 1: get done with that little bubble at five o'clock during
Speaker 1: the regular season, everybody's going their different ways, you know,
Speaker 1: So how do you factor that into the equation because
Speaker 1: that becomes a whole another task to try to manage
Speaker 1: that you can't manage. And uh so, I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be an incredibly challenging year. You look at what
Speaker 1: happened with the Miami Marlins this week and then also
Speaker 1: with the Philadelphia Phillies, and I know Joe, our producer,
Speaker 1: is probably sitting there going yeah, yeah, exactly exactly, but
Speaker 1: when they had the outbreak coming all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Iam and Marlins are shut down. Well, and in baseball,
Speaker 1: if you get shut down for a little bit, you
Speaker 1: can make it up somewhere along the way and play
Speaker 1: a double or triple header somewhere. Look, in football, you
Speaker 1: can't do that. I mean, you can't say, Okay, well
Speaker 1: we got to cancel this weekend's game. We'll make that
Speaker 1: game up next Wednesday, and then we'll go ahead and
Speaker 1: play the following Sunday. Doesn't work that way. So incredibly
Speaker 1: challenge challenging a year for the NFL. Hey, John, Obviously,
Speaker 1: Doug Marrone spoke earlier today. That's you, John, Yes, Um,
Speaker 1: it was his first media availability of the preseason training
Speaker 1: camp leading up ramp up period whatever we're officially calling
Speaker 1: this time period right now, we'll call it the ramp
Speaker 1: up period. First time we've heard from him. Uh And
Speaker 1: and as long as you and I were talking about
Speaker 1: it earlier, John, I'm curious your thoughts on this too.
Speaker 1: Doesn't really feel like football yet. Today might have been
Speaker 1: the first time, but just seeing Doug on a on
Speaker 1: a computer screen makes it kind of feel. Oh, we're
Speaker 1: still in the offseason program a little bit. It's an
Speaker 1: odd feeling. Yeah, I sort of realized today, and I
Speaker 1: guess and I thought about it more realized before. To me,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really feel like football until your shirts wet
Speaker 1: after practice, until you're just standing out there and you're
Speaker 1: soaking through and I'm walking up to Jeff and we're
Speaker 1: both kind of looking at each other and go, hey,
Speaker 1: here we go again. Yeah, that's really the first day
Speaker 1: that it's gonna feel real when we're on the field
Speaker 1: and camp. Frankly, because when you've been around it as
Speaker 1: long as I haven't, as long as Jeff has a
Speaker 1: more intimate capacity, your body clock tells you that right
Speaker 1: now it's time to walk out on that field and
Speaker 1: have my goofy hat on and be doing that. So
Speaker 1: I don't think you really feel it until that happens.
Speaker 1: But Jeff, I've looked at this all along, saying this
Speaker 1: is a combination of O, T A S for two
Speaker 1: weeks and then all of a sudden, bam, you're into
Speaker 1: training camp. So I do think we'll feel it in
Speaker 1: what two and a half three weeks on August seventeen.
Speaker 1: Well maybe, And I can tell you another reason why
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like training camp or feel like the
Speaker 1: season approach. And I'm looking to John Osha with a beer,
Speaker 1: I mean, what the hell is going on? I mean,
Speaker 1: did did me and you and Doug Rowin all kind
Speaker 1: of coordinate our facial growth or what in the all season?
Speaker 1: But if you're the beard of your question, you, I'll
Speaker 1: never match you. This is just my little effort. I
Speaker 1: like it. I like it, But I mean JP and
Speaker 1: I were talking earlier, John, and you know, you always
Speaker 1: have that build up to a season, you know, after
Speaker 1: the draft and then you have the mandatory mini camp
Speaker 1: and you have O. T A S. And when the
Speaker 1: guys report. You know, there's all these steps that get
Speaker 1: you to where you're gonna be at and where we're
Speaker 1: at now, but we've we've missed all those steps, and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna be missing more steps, you know, those
Speaker 1: steps of having media coverage of practice for two weeks
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, maybe even have a
Speaker 1: scrimmage mixed in there, or inter squad practice with another
Speaker 1: football team. That's not happening. Preseason games not happening. So
Speaker 1: when when you don't have all the build up, my
Speaker 1: question is where will the interest in the NFL be
Speaker 1: this year because you're missing a lot of that build
Speaker 1: up to a season that typically you have. And and
Speaker 1: I don't want to compare this to a rating system,
Speaker 1: but but I would just throw this out there. You know,
Speaker 1: in television, they have ratings for television shows, and and
Speaker 1: if you have a time slot, you love to have
Speaker 1: a great what they call lead in, which means you
Speaker 1: don't like to have something with strong numbers going into
Speaker 1: your show or into your time slot. Well, that's kind
Speaker 1: of like the build up of an NFL season, and
Speaker 1: all of that is going to be missing. So will
Speaker 1: you lose some fans because of that or will you
Speaker 1: gain more just because people are looking for an outlet
Speaker 1: to just to just not think about everything that's going
Speaker 1: on in the world today and just want to watch
Speaker 1: sports and want to watch competition. And my guess is
Speaker 1: it's I think you're gonna lose some because of what
Speaker 1: you said, because there's so many people thinking about other
Speaker 1: things right now, concerned about other things. But I do
Speaker 1: think I think the NBA will see it. I think
Speaker 1: Baseball is seeing it a little bit. I've talked to
Speaker 1: people in the Ozone mail bag who said they're watching
Speaker 1: baseball for the first time in a long time out
Speaker 1: of something to watch well as popular as the NFL as,
Speaker 1: I can't believe they won't have that bump. Will it
Speaker 1: be an overall bump, I don't know, but I would
Speaker 1: expect that first week of the regular season, as hungry
Speaker 1: as people have been for this UH, to be very
Speaker 1: well watched. Jeff, My question is, and you, as a
Speaker 1: former player, I've often ask you things along these lines,
Speaker 1: where do you think that we're gonna see the biggest
Speaker 1: evidence that there was no off season, that there was
Speaker 1: no training and then we're no preseason games. Are we
Speaker 1: making that up or will we see something tangible to
Speaker 1: be evidence of that. I think it's gonna be hard
Speaker 1: to an untrained I to say, oh boy, you can
Speaker 1: really tell that they did have all that. I think
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of inefficiencies with both offenses
Speaker 1: and defenses. But here's the reality. When everybody is on
Speaker 1: the same playing field, so and everybody's had the same
Speaker 1: all season to deal with, They've had the same I'm
Speaker 1: in a preseason, they've had the same limited number of practices.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be very hard to see now if you
Speaker 1: had one team that had so many different limitations and
Speaker 1: other teams that didn't have any limitations, you'd see a
Speaker 1: huge disparity. I don't think we're gonna see a lot
Speaker 1: of disparity, but if you watch the timing of all offenses,
Speaker 1: in the efficiency of offenses, I think that's gonna be
Speaker 1: probably the biggest indicator. In the biggest tellin is the
Speaker 1: first year coordinator thing more than anything, right, all the money,
Speaker 1: you got a first year coordinator in the first year
Speaker 1: starting quarterback with a very young offense, and obviously we're
Speaker 1: talking about Gardner, Minshew and and Gruden and the Jaguars offense.
Speaker 1: I mean, a huge disadvantage in the National Football League
Speaker 1: this year with that type of situation to deal with.
Speaker 1: Johnny Oh, you're writing is available on Jaguars dot com.
Speaker 1: You're the Jaguars dot Com senior writer. That's where it
Speaker 1: would be. And what what are you showing us logs
Speaker 1: on the whole Look? I got O Zones podcast right
Speaker 1: here on my phone. I mean, here's the here's the
Speaker 1: best thing about it. It's Pete Prisco. I gotta I
Speaker 1: gotta listen to that because it's Prisco. Not only that,
Speaker 1: there are two episodes with Pete Briscoe, so double your pleasure.
Speaker 1: He's got way too much hot air in him. Apparently
Speaker 1: it's not enough. The recap of today available at other
Speaker 1: story going up soon on Jaguars dot Com. Johnny, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's always good to see a button. Guys. Thanks Jeff,
Speaker 1: John all right. John Osier, Senior writer, Jaguars dot Com. Uh,
Speaker 1: we got to look at John there lougs on on Skype.
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Speaker 1: What do you think? I don't think remember remember the
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Speaker 1: This is how it's gonna work. Hold on, I got
Speaker 1: a question, Yeah, where does that music come from? You
Speaker 1: know where that music? I know, I know where it
Speaker 1: comes from as far as the guy that found it.
Speaker 1: But I need a little help here and understanding exactly
Speaker 1: what it is because I I've never heard that before
Speaker 1: and it's very odd the music. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I have never heard that
Speaker 1: song before in my life. I mean, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a little younger than you and the person who makes
Speaker 1: that decision, Joe, but I'm a lot younger. In fact,
Speaker 1: Joe's got to text me and let me know where
Speaker 1: that song comes from. The origin of that song. I
Speaker 1: gotta know because everything he does musically is for a
Speaker 1: reason because the name of the song is buy or Sell.
Speaker 1: I think basically that's it. I typed in buy or
Speaker 1: sell it, and that's what came up. So you just
Speaker 1: you just googled it, Okay, all right, at least it
Speaker 1: was clean. If it wasn't you after we get off
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Speaker 1: the Ozone podcast, I'm gonna I'm gonna google that. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna google buy Ourselves. There you have it, and that's
Speaker 1: what will come up. Apparently, here's how the game works.
Speaker 1: The first rule is there are no rules. We're just
Speaker 1: kind of going through it the first time. But I'll
Speaker 1: say a topic, logs are either gonna buy or sell
Speaker 1: and explain your reasoning behind it. And I'll do the
Speaker 1: same thing about that. Number one. The season will start
Speaker 1: as scheduled Buy Yourself by Yeah, I don't think there's
Speaker 1: any doubt, but it will start as scheduled because I
Speaker 1: think leading up to the season there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of precaution made. The teams aren't traveling. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: it's the most controlled environment the teams can have all
Speaker 1: season long. And I think if there was ever a
Speaker 1: week the game we're gonna be playing it would be
Speaker 1: opening day where should I say kickoff weekend? So I'm
Speaker 1: with you on the bye for that point. I think
Speaker 1: they'll do everything in their power to get to week one.
Speaker 1: After that, who knows, you know, things can change in
Speaker 1: a hurry. They've worked the schedule or weeks two and
Speaker 1: weeks three can can be moved if they need to
Speaker 1: and not affect the conference in the division races. So
Speaker 1: um by on starting as scheduled. If you if I
Speaker 1: were to ask, you know, the rest of the season unscheduled,
Speaker 1: I would sell right now. Next one. This is a
Speaker 1: pretty good one, and he can got way will be
Speaker 1: on the field for the Jaguars week one by or Sell,
Speaker 1: I'm selling. I don't think it's gonna happen. I think
Speaker 1: that they've had holy Cow seven months to try to
Speaker 1: come to some type of agreement. It hasn't happened. I
Speaker 1: don't think that that agreement is going to happen anytime soon.
Speaker 1: I think at some point there's gonna be enough of
Speaker 1: a trade offer to make it. You're worth your while
Speaker 1: as a as the Jaguars organization to go ahead and
Speaker 1: just move on. Yeah, I'm a sell as well, and
Speaker 1: that's the trick. He might be on the field week
Speaker 1: one if a deal gets done before the season, and
Speaker 1: he would be on the field somewhere else in a
Speaker 1: week one, but not for the Jaguars. But it would
Speaker 1: take who knows what would take. It would take whatever
Speaker 1: more than they've already been offered, which apparently they've had
Speaker 1: a couple of opportunities. Well, let me let me add
Speaker 1: this to JP if if there are no other options,
Speaker 1: are you unique and Gockway, it's either play for the
Speaker 1: Jaguars or don't don't get a check. I'm buying that
Speaker 1: he's gonna show up, Okay, I mean, because here's the deal.
Speaker 1: But when are you gonna week one? Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that, but I don't
Speaker 1: worry about in Gockway. As far as being in shape
Speaker 1: and ready to play a football game. He proved it
Speaker 1: last year that he came in he was ready to
Speaker 1: go right away. But you're not gonna bypass millions of dollars, okay,
Speaker 1: and another opportunity to get another significant jump at millions
Speaker 1: of dollars or a chance to get the free agency
Speaker 1: possibly again. So um, it's not like Aquay is gonna
Speaker 1: opt out, you know, and take a hundred fifty grand,
Speaker 1: or he's just gonna say, you know what, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna play for the Jaguars because I'm too burnt about it. Look,
Speaker 1: money is going to override this situation. If the Jaguars
Speaker 1: get enough, I think they're gonna trade him. And I
Speaker 1: think at some point you you'll probably get enough to
Speaker 1: where you just say, let's just move on as an
Speaker 1: organization because you just don't want that. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that Angoquay is a dark cloud, but it's just
Speaker 1: it's a cloud. Nonetheless, that's it's kind of hanging over
Speaker 1: your head as an organization. And then where you're young
Speaker 1: and you're rebuilding, you don't need that. I mean, you
Speaker 1: just need to put the blinders on and move forward,
Speaker 1: especially in a year like this. Our next topic, C J.
Speaker 1: Henderson will be the Jaguars Rookie of the Year and
Speaker 1: Logs I'll go first to this one. I'm buying this one,
Speaker 1: and here's some of the reasoning why behind it. Calean
Speaker 1: Chason is obviously a rookie, is l but there's a
Speaker 1: lot of grown men in the trenches. You have to
Speaker 1: kind of learn how to play. It takes a little longer.
Speaker 1: You can speak to this a little bit more. Whs
Speaker 1: uh we get to that point. Rookie wide receivers have
Speaker 1: a tough go of it. I think it takes them
Speaker 1: a little time overall to get things going. So Leaviscas
Speaker 1: chou A might take a little longer to really develop.
Speaker 1: Hopefully not maybe uh he steps in and plays well
Speaker 1: right away. C J. Henderson is a top ten cornerback
Speaker 1: and he's gonna start right away, and he'll have some
Speaker 1: bumps in the road, but I think he'll have the
Speaker 1: opportunity to make the most impact right out of the gate.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm buying that he's the Jaguars rookie of
Speaker 1: the years. Okay, well, here's the deal. He's your first
Speaker 1: round pick on a top ten pick. He should be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean if not, then what are we doing?
Speaker 1: But but here's an interesting here's an interesting way too
Speaker 1: to ask a different question. Would you take c J
Speaker 1: or the field? Oh? Oh, that's the tough one. But
Speaker 1: I think I'm still taking CJ. See for me, because
Speaker 1: there's another first round pick in the mix I would take.
Speaker 1: I would take the field now it's and that's not
Speaker 1: a criticism of c J at all. Right, is it
Speaker 1: is it more difficult to break in as a rookie
Speaker 1: as a defensive lneman, edge rusher or as a cornerback
Speaker 1: in your opinion, Well, a cornerback gets exposed more, they're
Speaker 1: more on an island. It's I think it's easier to
Speaker 1: hide an edge rusher, especially when you've got some other
Speaker 1: players that are pretty good and also situationally you can
Speaker 1: play an edge rusher. And so I think it would
Speaker 1: probably be easier to adapt in the National Football League
Speaker 1: right out of the gate as an edge rusher. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying the numbers would be there, um, but it's
Speaker 1: a it's a pretty good it's a pretty good grub
Speaker 1: amount of growth required to play corner National Football League.
Speaker 1: And a here's thing, if they play the way they
Speaker 1: played in the past, where they're leaving their corners on
Speaker 1: an island. So if Henderson is all sudden out there
Speaker 1: and playing like Jalen Ramsey, who, yeah, that's a big
Speaker 1: ask JP, it is, but he was a big draft
Speaker 1: pick to ten. Corners are expected to do certain things
Speaker 1: and that's one of them. Right, is to stand there's
Speaker 1: no doubt and from everything that his coaches in college said,
Speaker 1: from the numbers that he put up the combine, I mean,
Speaker 1: this guy is incredibly talented. And uh, the biggest thing
Speaker 1: I think that you always worry about it. And I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about CJ. Henderson in particular. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: any any first round pick or any rookie that we
Speaker 1: talk about is what's the mental makeup. And when you're
Speaker 1: talking about cornerback, the mental makeup has to be incredibly
Speaker 1: strong because you have to have a short memory, you
Speaker 1: have to be extremely confident, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: say borderline arrogant, but you've got to be close, you know,
Speaker 1: and you've got to be a kind of a little
Speaker 1: bit of edgy edginess to you, you know. So it
Speaker 1: takes a unique type of person to be able to
Speaker 1: handle playing quarterback in the National Football League. So I've
Speaker 1: got you down as a cell on C. J. Henders,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the field. I'm fair enough. No judgment here,
Speaker 1: there's no winner, there's no loser. We're you know, we're
Speaker 1: just we're throwing it around here. The next one, Leonard
Speaker 1: four Nets will be the offensive m VP of the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Buy or sell us. Again, that's kind of one of
Speaker 1: those questions, are you taking him? Are you taking the field? Well,
Speaker 1: that's not the question. That's not what I asked. Well,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's the same thing. And here's the thing.
Speaker 1: If I'm buying, that means I think four NET is
Speaker 1: going to be the m v P. If I'm selling
Speaker 1: anybody else, I mean, so it's the same question you're
Speaker 1: taking for NET. Are you taking the field for me? Um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna take the field JP. I'm selling.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I'm gonna sell there because I think that
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see some exciting things out of
Speaker 1: the wide receiver group and uh and I think we
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll see some exciting things out of the quarterback
Speaker 1: this year. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna buy this because
Speaker 1: I think with the different looking offense, though we have
Speaker 1: no idea what the hell is gonna look like yet,
Speaker 1: we haven't seen anybody on the field running around. You
Speaker 1: think they're gonna open it up some You mentioned the
Speaker 1: receivers a quarterback. That also opened some space for Leonard
Speaker 1: Fournette in theory, maybe another guy gets out of the box,
Speaker 1: and hey, guess what it's a contract year for as well.
Speaker 1: Not that he isn't motivated all the time anyway, but
Speaker 1: if there's a year to be out there and be
Speaker 1: motivated to play and play at the top level, this
Speaker 1: is the year for that. So give me Leonard for
Speaker 1: in a different offense in a contract year. I'm with
Speaker 1: you because look when I say I'm selling there, and
Speaker 1: that means I'm taking the field. But if I had
Speaker 1: to pick one person with the offense, because you know,
Speaker 1: when you're talking about Leonard Fournett of the field, that's
Speaker 1: one person or the rest of everybody else, I would
Speaker 1: take Leonard fourne if I had to pick one person,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been there, he's proven it, He's been
Speaker 1: a workhorse in this offense. I don't see any reason
Speaker 1: why he would not be expected to be a workhorse
Speaker 1: once again. And when you got a guy who's extremely motivated,
Speaker 1: he's playing in the contract contract year, um, feed him,
Speaker 1: I mean and feed him and use him as much
Speaker 1: as you can. And if he's with you next year, great.
Speaker 1: If he's not, then that's just the way it is
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and hopefully you find somebody
Speaker 1: replace him. That at some point in the future. All right,
Speaker 1: last one here, and I'll let you start on this one.
Speaker 1: To Gardner Mints, you will be a Pro Bowl player
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. So boy, I mean,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? I mean, you're expecting a first
Speaker 1: year starting quarterback to be a Pro Bowl player. I'm
Speaker 1: looking and I'm not saying that he can't be. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he can't be or that I'm
Speaker 1: down on him or anything of nature, because I think
Speaker 1: he had the best season of any rookie quarterback last year,
Speaker 1: and the numbers speak for that. The excitement that we
Speaker 1: saw with the min's humania I think speaks to that.
Speaker 1: But to expect him to take that next step, which
Speaker 1: that's a big step to go from hey, he had
Speaker 1: a pretty good rookie year to being a Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: type player, I mean, that's a huge step for anybody
Speaker 1: to take. And h if he does, Wow, then the
Speaker 1: Jaguars are certainly set as an organization because you feel like, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe we've got a franchise quarterback. Because because of the
Speaker 1: quarterback that you have makes the Pro Bowl in year two,
Speaker 1: you're talking about a franchise quarterback. So but do I
Speaker 1: expect that? Note um, and and and here's why new offense,
Speaker 1: young offense, uh, new terminology, a COVID nineteen offseason. A
Speaker 1: lot of speculation and and and unknowns when you're talking
Speaker 1: about a season. H For me, that's a lot to
Speaker 1: ask of a young quarterback with the expectation of be
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl type of player. I'm selling this as
Speaker 1: well for the reasons that you provided, but consider some
Speaker 1: other a f C quarterbacks that are in this conference
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, you're talking about Pat Mahomes. If
Speaker 1: they're not in the Super Bowl again, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl. Um, you're talking about big time names.
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is an indie right now. For goodness sakes,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson the m v P. I mean that's just
Speaker 1: three off the top. Ben Roethlisberger is still playing football.
Speaker 1: You might have heard of him. So it's a lot
Speaker 1: of big time names who've been around the blocker time
Speaker 1: with two in the a f C. Not to say
Speaker 1: that he couldn't slide in somehow, but you have to
Speaker 1: really outplay a whole lot of guys in the a
Speaker 1: f C to get voted into the Pro Bowl. If
Speaker 1: you're not sliding in as a reserve later down the line. Well,
Speaker 1: and and here's the deal. To to have individual recognition,
Speaker 1: you have to have great team success. That's step number one.
Speaker 1: If you don't have great team success, the chances of
Speaker 1: getting recognized for Pro Bowl are are tough unless you
Speaker 1: have incredible numbers. I mean incredible numbers. And a quarterback
Speaker 1: is always judged by wins and losses. And this team
Speaker 1: is a long way away from last year saying Okay,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a successful football team. They're gonna
Speaker 1: have ten plus wins as an organization. That's that's a
Speaker 1: lot to ask. We're back in a moment. We'll go
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Speaker 1: work with the community to provide meals for seniors, masks
Speaker 1: for healthcare workers and residents, funds for immediate needs and
Speaker 1: expertise on prevention. Welcome back Jaguar's Happy Hour. By the way,
Speaker 1: Congratulations to Fulham Football Club, owned by the Khan family.
Speaker 1: Of course, they lost the match today to Cardiff City,
Speaker 1: but they won the aggregate goal number of the two
Speaker 1: matches against Cardiff, so Fulham is headed to Wimbley for
Speaker 1: the final match against Brentford. The winner of that match
Speaker 1: gets promoted to the Premier League next easy. So Fulham
Speaker 1: just a moment ago they went full time. They lost
Speaker 1: again today as we said, two to one, but they
Speaker 1: won the aggregate goal over the last two matches to
Speaker 1: move on. So congrats to uh certainly Mr con Tony
Speaker 1: Con who's involved very much over there and the entire
Speaker 1: full full of football club family. One more game at
Speaker 1: Wembley to see if they can get back up in
Speaker 1: the Premier League. Pretty cool stuff, lugs, very cool stuff,
Speaker 1: and you always want to kind of go into that
Speaker 1: situation winning, but nonetheless, when you get there, it's still
Speaker 1: a reason for celebration. Yeah, Hey, they're in, They're playing
Speaker 1: at Wembley. It's all that matters. Now, go win the
Speaker 1: thing and get back in the premier league. Let's go
Speaker 1: around the National Football League and logs. The opt outs
Speaker 1: around the league continue to roll in, including Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs running back Damian Williams. Now in steps rookie Clyde
Speaker 1: Edwards Hilaire out of l s U. He's a first
Speaker 1: round traffick running back. He was expecting to contribute anyway,
Speaker 1: but with the Super Bowl hero Williams out, now it's
Speaker 1: a it's a big spotlight. Now for Edwards away there. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's a big spotlight and one that the
Speaker 1: Chiefs were excited about getting him because they were raving
Speaker 1: about him after they were able to get him in
Speaker 1: the draft, and they said, he's a multidimensional tool. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be not only a running back, but a great
Speaker 1: receiving option out of the backfield. And when you put
Speaker 1: a guy that has that flexibility like him in that offense, man,
Speaker 1: that's a hard offense to deal with this as it is,
Speaker 1: but then you put another kind of a jack of
Speaker 1: all trades in it. Hold on a lot of opt
Speaker 1: outs around the league though lugs with that. You know, obviously,
Speaker 1: if you have a pre existing condition and are a
Speaker 1: little more susceptible to COVID nineteen, there's a higher payout.
Speaker 1: It's a hundred and fifty thousand dollars otherwise, but it
Speaker 1: does come out of your salary next year if you
Speaker 1: decide to opt out this year. Yeah, that's a tough decision,
Speaker 1: I think for a lot of guys because it's not
Speaker 1: necessarily just about them. It's about their family. You know.
Speaker 1: Some guys may have a mother or a father that
Speaker 1: lives with them that may be at risk. They may
Speaker 1: have a newborn children. Uh So there's a lot of
Speaker 1: different reasons why people could opt out and totally understand it.
Speaker 1: Totally understand it because if you are at risk, it's real.
Speaker 1: I mean it's absolutely real. And you know, we all
Speaker 1: got to see firsthand with but Poselli's you know issue
Speaker 1: when he had COVID in early stages of all this
Speaker 1: was going down. Heck, he's an intensive care you know. So,
Speaker 1: Uh did the thought cross my mind that Tony might
Speaker 1: not make it at that point? Heck yeah, you know. So.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're somebody that has those type of concerns,
Speaker 1: or somebody in your family has those type of concerned
Speaker 1: you know, totally get opting out and I think it
Speaker 1: was great that that the league and the union were
Speaker 1: able to come to an agreement in that fashion so
Speaker 1: that the players don't feel like they have to do something.
Speaker 1: This gives them a way to take a step back
Speaker 1: and then to make an important decision, and that is
Speaker 1: sometimes the most important decision. The Tennessee Titans has still
Speaker 1: not heard from Vic Beasley. He did not show up
Speaker 1: for COVID nineteen testing again Wednesday. I had no communication
Speaker 1: with the team as to why he was added to
Speaker 1: the reserve did not report list. And now it's a
Speaker 1: one year, proven deal with Tennessee this offseason, but so
Speaker 1: far a no show in Tennessee. Yeah, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't understand that. You know, Vic Beasley is a is
Speaker 1: a good football player. Uh, you obviously didn't get the contract.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. I mean, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: When you don't have any kind of response from a
Speaker 1: player and there's no information coming from him or his camp,
Speaker 1: I mean, everything else is just speculation. I hope everything
Speaker 1: is okay with him and uh, and at some point,
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll find out what's going on. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: uh we'll find out. Yeah, it didn't didn't show up
Speaker 1: again yesterday. Nick Bosa has shown up though, and he
Speaker 1: is getting paid by the Chargers a five year extensive,
Speaker 1: highest pay defensive player in the NFL. UH. The extension
Speaker 1: is worth a hundred thirty five million dollars, including a
Speaker 1: hundred and two million dollars guaranteed that exceeds the Miles
Speaker 1: Garrett extension that he got from Cleveland a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks back. So a lot of money going out to
Speaker 1: the Boasta family. Well, he's worth He's worth every penny
Speaker 1: you're You're talking about a guy that from him and
Speaker 1: his brother both when when they stepped into the to
Speaker 1: the game, they were dominant immediately. Now, I don't put
Speaker 1: him on the level of like a Reggie White or
Speaker 1: Bruce Smith, but I mean he is one of the
Speaker 1: premier pass rushers in the National Football League. He's got
Speaker 1: a great motor, He's got a lot of different ways
Speaker 1: that he can rush the quarterback effectively. He's good against
Speaker 1: the run. Uh, He's he's the type of player he's
Speaker 1: a foundational building block of any organization. Of course, I
Speaker 1: called him the wrong brother name. It's Joey Bosta got
Speaker 1: paid by the Chargers. Nick, that's on me. Both of
Speaker 1: him are so dag I'm good. I mean, here's a
Speaker 1: great argument, who would you rather have? Would you rather
Speaker 1: have Nick or would you rather have Joey? I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that's a great question, and I think a
Speaker 1: lot of general managers would have a hard time determining
Speaker 1: which one that they would have first out of those
Speaker 1: two guys. Well, who would you take first? Well, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I'd like to see a little
Speaker 1: bit more sample size that I mean, so far, everything
Speaker 1: that I've seen out of Nick, I'd have a tendency
Speaker 1: to lean towards Nick right now after watching his rookie season,
Speaker 1: he was tremendous. Well, I would take him because he's
Speaker 1: cheaper right now than than Joey is after yesterday. Right,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a great statement because economics always does
Speaker 1: factor into roster building. Is that all right? Because you
Speaker 1: know you never know you're you're cheap, You're so true? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean the salary cap by trip next year, I
Speaker 1: gotta think ahead now that I think for this year,
Speaker 1: we're gonna think three years ahead live you know, hopefully
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of when you're talking about the
Speaker 1: salary cap, you know, the the agreement that the NFL
Speaker 1: p A and the NFL has and you you're talking
Speaker 1: about smoothing it out and lessening the pain over a
Speaker 1: number of years instead of having that that one year hit,
Speaker 1: which would have been catastrophic for some football teams if
Speaker 1: you didn't have some type of agreement in place that
Speaker 1: allowed the numbers to smooth over time and you know
Speaker 1: whereas if they stayed under the current rules of play,
Speaker 1: there would have been a massive salary cap hit in
Speaker 1: and teams would have been cutting guys all over. Final
Speaker 1: piece of news around the league, the league's top one
Speaker 1: d players list came out through NFL Media. Here's the
Speaker 1: top five and it's been relatively controversial today. Number five
Speaker 1: was SATs wide receiver Michael Thomas, number four Chiefs quarterback
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Number three Aaron Donald of the Rams, Number
Speaker 1: two Russell Wilson of the Seahawks, and number one Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson of the Ravens. And I guess you're not you're
Speaker 1: not an agreeance. I'm taking Patrick Mahomes as number one
Speaker 1: all day long, every day, even on Sunday, not even well.
Speaker 1: The situation with this is devoted on by players usually
Speaker 1: November December time frame, and and the question is how
Speaker 1: many players vote? How scientific is this is up to
Speaker 1: your debate. I think, uh, Lamar Jackson is the m
Speaker 1: v P. Though I mean I'm not I'm not now
Speaker 1: having Mahomes fourth. I'm with you, you shouldn't be fourth
Speaker 1: on that list. Should look. I think Lamar Jackson's a
Speaker 1: great football player, and and he's I can't imagine trying
Speaker 1: to prepare for a quarterback of that nature of your
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, but longevity. Which quarterback are you taking? Are
Speaker 1: you taking the quarterback that's going to function from the pocket.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna take the quarterback that makes things happen
Speaker 1: with his legs? I'm taking the guy that functions in
Speaker 1: the pocket. Well you you called that the pre draft
Speaker 1: process too, by the way, remember yeah, Well, I mean
Speaker 1: as I thought of all the college players that I
Speaker 1: watched quarterbacks, you know, not like I haven't been watching
Speaker 1: it forever, but it was the most impressive college quarterback
Speaker 1: that I've ever watched the film on and he just
Speaker 1: blew me away and some of the things that he
Speaker 1: was able to do or just nothing short of impressive,
Speaker 1: fun player to watch. And he's still is showing that
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And sometimes when you watch
Speaker 1: film and those are the things that you see, you
Speaker 1: just don't know everything else about the player. All you're
Speaker 1: seeing this film. So you're sitting there going, well, something's
Speaker 1: got to be wrong with him if nobody's taken him
Speaker 1: like a number one or number two or number three.
Speaker 1: I was thinking that maybe he didn't have the mental capacity.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's a bad guy. I couldn't figure out why
Speaker 1: he went where he did. Well, now he's got he
Speaker 1: can earn up to a half billion dollars with a b.
Speaker 1: Now he just bought a piece of the Royal. It's true.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing. He's so good. He just bought
Speaker 1: at the piece of the Kansas City Royals. That's amazing stuff.
Speaker 1: There's a look around the National Football League. AUR Thanks
Speaker 1: to John oz Er, Jaguars dot Com senior writer for
Speaker 1: joining us a little bit earlier in the program and
Speaker 1: coming up at the top of the hour just a
Speaker 1: little less than a minute the Doug Bron Show head
Speaker 1: coach Doug Bron standing by lives. It's good to see
Speaker 1: your face on at least on the computer screen. Good
Speaker 1: JP is always good to be seen and uh and
Speaker 1: it was good to see your face as well. And uh,
Speaker 1: and I can see I can see a couple of
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