WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, July 30 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:11.200 It is Thursday, July. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. And 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.360 now a guy who treats adversity like a piece of 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:22.360 meat Jane Peace Shadrick. Uh is it medium rare? I 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:26.800 don't know. Welcome in Jaguar's Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:31.680 from a home studio. Jeff Loguman from his home studio. 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:35.199 And with the power of technology, Jeff, you and I 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.960 can actually look each at each other over a video screen. 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.120 We're taking steps towards the season. What's up wise? How hard? 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.239 It's kind of odd. I mean, here we are, the 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.280 end of July and me and you were having this 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:51.720 conversation a minute ago. Does it really feel like football season? 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:54.960 Doesn't feel like it's it's time to have a mini camp? 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:59.040 You know, I mean that's right now. It is weird. 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.520 I mean, obviously, it's been a year like nothing else. 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.039 And and typically you have so much build up to 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.400 the season to where you have, you know, after the 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:11.000 draft and free agency, then you have many camps and 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.800 voluntary workouts and then the players report, and then when 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.959 they report, there's cameras and fanfare and everything else. Well, 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.000 you kind of missed a big block of that, so 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.720 it almost feels like, you know, we're missing something, but 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:28.160 but here we are. And uh, it's a different year certainly, 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:29.520 and it's going to be a different year in a 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:32.440 lot of different ways. Well here from Doug Moron of course, 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:36.120 in this show recap his media availability. It was earlier 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:38.400 today that Doug Maron show coming up at five o'clock 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:40.600 today as well, so we'll hear straight from the head coach, 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:42.720 and he touched on this a little bit today. Two 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.920 logs is, you know, it doesn't feel like preseason. It 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.200 doesn't feel like any of that right now because there's 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.880 this ramp up time and then there's not a game 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:54.400 in two weeks, and so it's a totally different, almost 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:57.640 a collegiate type feel. And for Doug, he's been through 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:59.920 this on the college side before, where there's no freest 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.760 season games, you gotta figure out your roster and you're 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.600 too deep at that point. Obviously, it's a different world 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.960 here in the NFL. But he can refer to some 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.480 notes from the past, which is a good thing for Doug. Yeah, 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.800 but what notes are you referring to and you're talking 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:17.960 about managing a roster when you have COVID nineteen affecting 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.440 your entire roster and the way you do business. I mean, look, 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.799 there's nothing that you can pull from your history and 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.639 it's gonna help you handle this other than you have 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:30.280 to sit there and try to figure out every conceivable, 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:34.520 every conceivable possibility that could happen to your roster. And 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.000 this year is very unique in a lot of different ways. 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.400 And that, first of all, will the season happen without 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.720 any kind of interruption? I think that's gonna be very 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:47.000 interesting to see if it can happen. Number two is 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.680 that now you have coaches and general managers that are 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:53.320 having to manage a completely different thing than just the 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.960 x is and the ohs and the Jimmy's and the jos. 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:59.760 I mean, now you're talking about managing any roster in case, 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:02.160 all sudden you have an outbreak of COVID nineteen on 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.959 your football team. So now you have to make the decisions. 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.600 How do we handle our day to day business. How 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:10.799 do we conduct practice, How do we conduct meals, How 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:14.320 do we conduct meetings? How do we conduct practice? Do 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.000 we isolate a quarterback just in case we have a 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.520 quarterback room that comes down with COVID? I mean there's 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.520 so many different decisions and there's no roadmap that you 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:24.560 can refer back to to figure out what's the best 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:26.840 way to go about it. But I will say this, 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.079 the football teams in the National Football League that are 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.880 the best managed are going to be the most successful 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:36.400 in a year like this. Here's what's coming up on 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:40.200 the program today. We'll recap that Doug Maroon media availability, 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:43.760 players reporting to camp at least for testing. The veterans 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.200 are not in the building yet. The rookies are, though 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.880 the ones who have passed three COVID nineteen tests are 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.160 allowed in the next steps moving ahead over the next 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:56.040 week's we'll discuss that senior writer John O's your schedule 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.440 to join us as well, and about fifteen minutes will 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.400 recap Doug morons press conference today. Let's hear from the 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:04.800 head coach logs. How about it? You know, and you 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:09.400 just touched on this, how different the environment is? What 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.040 is a normal day like? And how does a normal 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.800 day change? For head coach Doug Burrow. There there are 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:18.280 so many changes the rock that has taken place as 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.760 far as just your normal day, I mean normal is 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:24.839 out of the really really out of the picture, you know, 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.800 of the things that we're doing UM, as far as 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:31.200 you know coming in with the testing procedures. UM, you know, 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:35.280 arrows on the hallway, signs on the hallway, UM, you know, 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:39.520 split locker rooms, split you know, weight rooms, different different areas, 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:44.080 you know, just to create that space. Now logs. I 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:45.560 have not been in the building, at least in the 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:49.919 Jaguars part of the building since March nineteen, so I 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:53.720 haven't seen these arrows and all these hallways. But it 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:55.760 makes a lot of sense. They have to do everything 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.240 to the book, and the book is big of what 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.240 the league and everybody's put together try to make this 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:05.160 social distancing possible. In an NFL locker room, it's tough 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.839 to do with ninety guys around there. Well, well it is. Unfortunately, 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:12.720 the Jaguars have a facility that is the NFL Stadium, 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.720 which has multiple locker rooms, that has a lot of 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:18.120 room really to handle this type of situation. There's a 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:21.719 lot of football teams that don't have the upgraded facility, 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.120 that don't have the ability to say, hey, you know what, 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.719 let's go use the South locker room, and hey, guess what, 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.080 let's go use the locker room. The new locker room 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:30.719 that they built on the other side of the stadium. 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.360 So the Jaguars are fortunate in a lot of different 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.560 ways because of the facility that they are within, and 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.360 also they have the ability to go outside and utilize 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.680 the stadium seating area that's got a capacity of sixty 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.520 five plus thousand seats, and so you've got a lot 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:47.600 of flexibility there to where you can actually have a 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:51.000 meeting and still be able to abide by all the 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.119 different social distancing aspects of the requirements of the league. 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.359 Now you said you haven't seen all these things in 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.360 the hallway, JP, Just imagine what it's like at the 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.279 grocery store. You got one signs, right, I mean, going 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:03.039 down aisles and then when you get to the cash 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:06.120 register and says stand here, stand here, staying here. I mean, 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.400 I don't think it's any different for the NFL teams 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:11.320 right now to where they have a lot of guidelines 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:15.719 just like that in place for them. Interesting stuff, and 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.240 you know, but everybody has to follow it to a t. 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:20.960 And that's this is a discussion we'll have a little 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:24.760 later too. That's inside the building. You can control inside 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:28.120 the building. The real question will be when guys leave 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:32.120 the building go home. That's really when this thing will 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.440 will turn one way or the other, he'll see he 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:38.680 again from Doug Barone. No preseason games this year, that's 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.280 the big change. The players Association and the league came 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:45.160 together on that. So how does that change his preparation 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:49.240 leading into the regular season? When I knew there was 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:53.239 talk about, you know, um possibly not playing preceding games, 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.800 I wind up breaking out you know the stuff that 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:57.560 I did in college and looked at it kind of 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.680 reminded myself of you know how, you know, how I've 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.400 done it, you know, personally before and then you know, 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.600 I think it's for me, it's it's it's very easy 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.760 to manage, you know, and getting those situations, getting you know, 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:12.680 that type of experience, getting that type of you know, 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.880 live action, let's say, for lack of a better word, 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.680 Um So I think I'm I feel very comfortable as 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:24.520 far as that part. Look, how difficult is this, at 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:29.320 least from the organizational perspective to evaluate talent on the team. 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.160 We'll hear from the player's side in a moment, But 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:35.840 in terms of selecting guys on this roster, how difficult 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:39.400 is it to to see anything when you can't play games? Well, 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.600 I think it's interesting that Doug says that, hey, look, 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.840 he's very comfortable with what what he's gonna be able 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.960 to do. I had a hard time understanding how comfortable 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:49.960 he is. I think he's just saying that because he 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:54.200 doesn't want his team to realize that this is very different, 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.400 and he doesn't want them to think that this is 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.440 anything but the best way for any but any football team. 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.920 I think the reality is that, look, if you knew 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:05.040 you weren't going to have preseason games, fine, now we 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.320 can go ahead and we can ramp up the practices. 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.960 We can go to semi live contact and practice. But 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.280 here's the reality. You have this whole ramp up period 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.400 that's taken away from the total amount of time that 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.840 you have the players on the field four and the 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:21.400 amount of padded practices that you're gonna have. So here's 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.120 the thing. How are you going to find a replacement 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.480 for four games? You can't, But you can't. So you're 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.160 gonna have to make a lot of personnel decisions about 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:35.840 your football team based on faith. I mean, that's the reality, 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:39.240 and based on very little sample size of what you 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.120 have from the players on your roster. That's the reality, 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.560 and that's certainly a big change from in years past, 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.240 and there's been a lot of talk about how the 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.079 undrafted guys in NFL history have had that opportunity and 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:56.240 in the preseason has afforded them that opportunity of getting 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.280 more exposure. I don't think there's any doubt that that's 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.400 a reality, and there's gonna be a lot of players 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.240 that slipped through the cracks. But the one thing that 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.160 you do have this year is that you do have 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.640 the expanded roster with the practice squad, and I think 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:10.720 that will help a little bit. Now, it may it 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:14.520 may take some time to unearth some of those gems, 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:16.640 but I think you'll still be able to find them 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:18.880 because of the practice squad and a little bit of 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.920 expanded roster there in also because if you've got a 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.000 guy that goes on the COVID nineteen list, okay, you 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.360 can replace them on the active roster and still have 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.960 a guy on the practice squad. For this organization, it 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.439 might be a little more challenging than most a very 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:36.960 young team. Twelve draft picks, eighteen undrafted players currently on 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.800 the roster, and for Doug Morone, as you just touched 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:43.440 on logs, Doug today earlier knows the challenge for young 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.760 players to make not just this team, but any team 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:50.840 this year. This is probably, um, probably gonna be one 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:54.560 of the more challenging times for a young player, uh 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.240 to make a football team. You know, one is because 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.480 of opportunities. The other is going to be you know, 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:04.200 a young football player, um that may you know, you 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.120 may have some better players ahead of him, but not 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.880 be able to play preseason games, to get on film 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:14.200 to you know, maybe get picked up by another team. Yeah, 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:17.319 it changes everything. We've just touched on it. The addition 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.440 of some spots in the practice squad helps you a 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.480 little bit in this case. But man, this is not ideal. 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.120 It's certainly not ideal for anybody in the league. And 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.920 if you're an undrafted rookie that's on the bubble to 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:34.000 begin with before games start, then you may not even 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:37.600 make it to the cutdown in weeks. Look when you're 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.840 when you're an undrafted rookie, you're already on the bubble. 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:41.800 I mean you're not gonna you know, maybe be on 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:43.719 the bubble. You are on the bubble bubble when you 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.760 walk in the door. And the reality is this Jiguars 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:50.480 football team is incredibly young, and they're going to be 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:54.839 evaluating a lot of incredibly young players, and I think 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.240 it would make a big difference if you're talking about 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.440 a veteran football team like the Kansas City East. They've 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.800 got veterans across the board, but you're talking about a 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.480 totally different animal with his Jaguars football team, and other 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.760 teams that are very similar to the Jaguars that are 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:10.840 in a rebuilding mode and they have committed to youth, 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:13.400 You're gonna make a lot of decisions based on very 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.440 little sample side. I think the teams that are going 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.440 to be more set up I think for this year 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.280 to have success or one that have had stability within 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:25.840 the organization and have a veteran presence in their locker room, 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.320 the guys that have been there and done that. When 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.559 you have a roster that there's a lot of guys 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:32.760 that haven't been there and done that, a lot of 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.040 decisions are gonna have to be made based on faith, 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.480 and a lot of those decisions aren't going to be 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:41.240 the right ones just because you don't have enough evidence 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:45.800 or visual evidence to confirm or deny whatever you are 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.800 expecting to see how a certain player so that's just 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.120 the reality with young teams. 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Jeff Logoman on video with 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:48.320 Us today from his home studio with is that it 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.920 looks like a gun safe behind you. That's okay. And 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:55.680 John Osier is joining us from his home studio. I 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:59.760 don't see a gun case behind you, John, what's up? Oh? Yeah, 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.840 still trying to figure out this, uh eight months into 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.680 this pandemic that it is eight years still trying to 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:13.360 figure out Skype evidently. So here you are. Yeah, good 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.440 to see you. Oh and glad you're along with us here, 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:17.879 you know. By the way, before we get into the 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.840 jaguar stuff, there's a little breaking news in college football. 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:25.520 The Ross Ellinger from Sports Illustrated is just tweeted and 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:28.639 said that Southeastern Conference presidents have adopted a plan to 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:32.159 play a ten game conference only scheduled this fall. The 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:36.600 kickoff date would be September. The SEC championship game would 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.760 be December nineteen. That just came down during the commercial 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:43.040 time out. So that's one sport off to the side, 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.000 you know. And John we talked about this a little 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:50.160 bit this morning. The way different sports are handling this pandemic. Um, 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:55.280 NBA has the bubble, NHL has two different bubbles. UH, NFL, 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.959 Major League Baseball do not College football as of right now, 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.200 it's they're trying to Y're gonna play or not some 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:06.560 of these leagues. Um, you know the the that's the 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:08.960 challenge of this NFL thing that the amount of people 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:10.920 involved in the amount of people coming and going from 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:14.880 buildings shot is tough. Yeah, I'd probably be more curious 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:19.720 Jeff as a former player, uh, how he would feel 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.760 about just the logistics of because he's been more inside 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:24.920 of it than I have in his life that you know, 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.000 haven't been around the league for twenty five years. The 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.960 thought of trying to get like during training camp, you've 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.560 got a hundred and fifty semi people that you are 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:39.040 trying to move around, and it's probably you know, you're 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:43.120 the best correlation is trying to it is the military correlation. 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:47.680 You're trying to move people impacts and they're trying to 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.160 do with social distance. But there's just so many people 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.920 that you've got to get involved with it. You know. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.800 I get when fans who are outside of it say, well, 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.560 they should just do the bubble, because that's the best 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.119 way to do it. Look at baseball, look at basketball. 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:04.840 But with those sports, you're talking about short periods of 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:09.640 time comparatively, maybe four or five weeks for most teams, Jeff, 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:12.600 to try to do it over a five month period 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.440 with the logistics of the NFL, I get that maybe 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:18.600 you could try it, but it just seems like a 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:23.280 Garganelan lift. Well, it's a it's a Gargangelan task, and 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.240 on top of that, you can control them, you know, 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:29.280 while they're in your little bubble. But then once you 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.800 get done with that little bubble at five o'clock during 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.800 the regular season, everybody's going their different ways, you know, 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:38.119 So how do you factor that into the equation because 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:41.200 that becomes a whole another task to try to manage 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:45.520 that you can't manage. And uh so, I think it's 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:48.480 gonna be an incredibly challenging year. You look at what 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:51.880 happened with the Miami Marlins this week and then also 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:54.480 with the Philadelphia Phillies, and I know Joe, our producer, 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:57.879 is probably sitting there going yeah, yeah, exactly exactly, but 0:19:58.080 --> 0:19:59.879 when they had the outbreak coming all of a sudden, 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.800 Iam and Marlins are shut down. Well, and in baseball, 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:04.200 if you get shut down for a little bit, you 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:06.440 can make it up somewhere along the way and play 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.600 a double or triple header somewhere. Look, in football, you 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.359 can't do that. I mean, you can't say, Okay, well 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:14.480 we got to cancel this weekend's game. We'll make that 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.119 game up next Wednesday, and then we'll go ahead and 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:20.639 play the following Sunday. Doesn't work that way. So incredibly 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:25.920 challenge challenging a year for the NFL. Hey, John, Obviously, 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:29.439 Doug Marrone spoke earlier today. That's you, John, Yes, Um, 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:33.520 it was his first media availability of the preseason training 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:36.679 camp leading up ramp up period whatever we're officially calling 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:39.080 this time period right now, we'll call it the ramp 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:42.200 up period. First time we've heard from him. Uh And 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:43.960 and as long as you and I were talking about 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:47.040 it earlier, John, I'm curious your thoughts on this too. 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.800 Doesn't really feel like football yet. Today might have been 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:53.760 the first time, but just seeing Doug on a on 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.920 a computer screen makes it kind of feel. Oh, we're 0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:00.480 still in the offseason program a little bit. It's an 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:03.680 odd feeling. Yeah, I sort of realized today, and I 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:07.159 guess and I thought about it more realized before. To me, 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:12.160 it doesn't really feel like football until your shirts wet 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:15.600 after practice, until you're just standing out there and you're 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:18.480 soaking through and I'm walking up to Jeff and we're 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:19.760 both kind of looking at each other and go, hey, 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:22.360 here we go again. Yeah, that's really the first day 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:24.440 that it's gonna feel real when we're on the field 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:27.679 and camp. Frankly, because when you've been around it as 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.720 long as I haven't, as long as Jeff has a 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:35.040 more intimate capacity, your body clock tells you that right 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.960 now it's time to walk out on that field and 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.320 have my goofy hat on and be doing that. So 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:43.880 I don't think you really feel it until that happens. 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:46.480 But Jeff, I've looked at this all along, saying this 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.679 is a combination of O, T A S for two 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:52.040 weeks and then all of a sudden, bam, you're into 0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:54.720