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Speaker 1: we're gonna uh still talk about the NBA. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: tap in with the latest Celtics and league news with

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Speaker 1: NBA writer Noah Dalzo on today's episode.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jack O'Brien and I'm producing in for Miles and.

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Speaker 1: This is Miles Sometimes sorry gud luka.

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Speaker 1: Spinning number eighteen that's been stored the Celtics or NBA

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Speaker 1: champions over the give us the show time. Yes, welcome

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Speaker 1: Noah to Miles and Jack and sometimes you already got

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Speaker 1: my boosties. How are you doing, I'm good, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me. You are uh c LNS and Celtics blog reporter.

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Speaker 1: You're the lead w n b A writer for SB

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Speaker 1: Nation and the host of You Got Boston podcast, uh,

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Speaker 1: which I'm told can be found on YouTube. Is that correct?

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, YouTube, Spotify, all the usuals.

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Speaker 1: You started covering the Celtics professionally last year, How I forget?

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Speaker 1: How did they do it? Was it a good for them?

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Speaker 4: It was a good first year on the VITA. I

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Speaker 4: have to say. Told me that it was not to

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Speaker 4: get too not to get too comfortable. That's how the

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Speaker 1: That's such a Boston thing to say, don't get too comfortable.

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Speaker 1: Well it was. I was.

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Speaker 4: Actually it was everybody's first championship, so the entirebet. Nobody

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Speaker 4: I had all these questions about the parade and you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just picturing Bob Ryan running up to you in

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Speaker 1: Our listeners know this. But I root for everyone except

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Speaker 1: is like, yeah, exactly, I feel like that. I just

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Speaker 1: anybody but the Celtics. I'm a not a huge Luca

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Speaker 1: come on, man, you're my guy. Luke always have been

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Speaker 1: but it does feel like there's an inevitability about them.

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Speaker 1: They feel as locked in as a defending champ has.

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Speaker 1: How's it looking from where you're sitting. Do you feel

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Speaker 4: I would say I never feel like any one team

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Speaker 4: don't feel like there's an inevitability about this team. That

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Speaker 4: I just don't that you have in most teams right

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Speaker 1: I would say, don't look now, but the seventy six

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Speaker 4: But all the Celtics people said when I picked seventies

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Speaker 2: And no, no, I feel guilty because every year I

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Speaker 1: Good news is I'd never get carried away with myself.

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Speaker 1: No, it just turns out he's like gotten much better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm I'm a massive Peyton Pritchard fan. I

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Speaker 4: no matter who you ask, he'll tell you. He's an incredibly,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think just looking at his game, you know, honestly,

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Speaker 4: So I think we're seeing an upward progression of you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like so sup producer Jabari pointed out,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the one challenge with the most improved

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Speaker 2: up for it just for the ridiculousness of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they should play on ice and on ice

431
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 1: skates too.

432
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 4: So the w n b A has a four point

433
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 4: shot in the All Star Game, and I think, you know,

434
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 4: it's cool, they don't. They don't make or take a

435
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 4: whole bunch of them. Actually they take, they take some,

436
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 4: but I don't think they've made made a whole bunch

437
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 4: in the All Star Game. But certainly something that people

438
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 4: have talked about with the NBA, with you know, players

439
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 4: range extending, like it would it could be a cool

440
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 4: time to just try out different things that like I

441
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 4: think it's called the MDAL finish or whatever.

442
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah.

443
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 4: But I think that's the same idea of like let's

444
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 4: just workshop and things that maybe one day that day

445
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 4: will want to adopt. But again, I think it's less

446
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 4: about the gimmicks and it's more about getting player bying,

447
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 4: and obviously they haven't been able to get that.

448
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

449
00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 4: I guess said I was just alarmed because I'm like,

450
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 4: have a Duran has been really the face of or

451
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 4: one of the faces of they All Star Game over

452
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 4: the last decade, So why he wouldn't be in the

453
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 4: room or engage like that's what That's why I guess

454
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Speaker 4: what my concern was a little bit more. But I

455
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 4: would love to just see there may be being some

456
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 4: incentives for the actual for your actual team for the

457
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 4: regular season. Like I've been thinking about this with the

458
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 4: NBA Cup as well. It seems like the only thing

459
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 4: that players care about, you know, if we're coming from

460
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 4: these competitive, you know, playoff teams, is they're seating and

461
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 4: what's they're going to have, whether they'll have homecourt advantage

462
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 4: and the playoffs, and so is there a way that

463
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Speaker 4: if you're on the team that wins the All Star Game,

464
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 4: then maybe you come back and it gives you half

465
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 4: a spot up in the seating. I don't know, but

466
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Speaker 4: I just think like the more gimmicky that it gets,

467
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 4: the less of Foster's competition. And so it's on one hand,

468
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 4: it's like entertaining, but really what people want to see

469
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Speaker 4: is just guys playing hard because that'll be entertaining up

470
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Speaker 4: on its own. I don't really understand why they can't

471
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 4: just play hard for one game. I really don't. I'm

472
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Speaker 4: all about like player empowerment. I'm pro player everything. This

473
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Speaker 4: is the one issue that I don't really understand. So

474
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 4: but I guess. I mean, they've asked nicely, and you know,

475
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 4: it hasn't really happened, so it's obviously a bigger question

476
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 4: than just asking.

477
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Speaker 1: I think they should have to like put up the

478
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: you know how in uh Fast and Furious, they're like

479
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Speaker 1: put up your papers, like the pink paper. They should

480
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: just have to like play for their favorite car, you know,

481
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Speaker 1: their favorite the pink slip of their favorite car, because

482
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Speaker 1: that gets uh it'll never happen because it'd probably be illegal,

483
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Speaker 1: but if it did, it would get like a per

484
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Speaker 1: because then you don't everybody be like talking about the

485
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: players cars. You know, they'd be like, oh, like he

486
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 1: did such a thick car.

487
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Speaker 2: Devin Booker Outstar Game MVP for the next six years

488
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Speaker 2: then because he's like the one guy.

489
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Speaker 1: Car guy. Yeah. Yeah, Like I feel like that would

490
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Speaker 1: be fun, Like you play for something of value and

491
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Speaker 1: also like get to cover some aspect of some like

492
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: weird little quirk of their personality. I want to see

493
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Speaker 1: them start messing with like alternate three point lines. I

494
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Speaker 1: think that's that's an idea that, like I've always thought

495
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Speaker 1: is in true if different stadiums had different three point

496
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Speaker 1: lines based on just I don't know what they wanted

497
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Speaker 1: to do when they when they built the court the way,

498
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Speaker 1: the same way that like baseball has different shaped fields.

499
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Speaker 1: You know, that's an idea that's been thrown out, especially

500
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: now the three point shooting is like so bonkers.

501
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Speaker 4: The other one that probably wouldn't work is for the WNBA.

502
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 4: They have their All Star Game is great, and they

503
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Speaker 4: have you know, this past year they had the US

504
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 4: Olympic team versus the world right versus the rest of

505
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 4: the All Star field, and it's a much less globalized game,

506
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 4: so it is mostly the American players. But even just

507
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Speaker 4: I'm thinking of a team with Donovan Mitchell and Jalen

508
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 4: Brown and Jalen Brunson and all these guys that didn't

509
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 4: make the Olympic team go up against Lastery's Olympic team

510
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 4: like in some capacity, right, that would be fun, Like

511
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Speaker 4: let's have some story that would be so fun than

512
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 4: just planted assignments and Chack and Charles Barkley. I love

513
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 4: I love them. They're entertaining, but I think in a

514
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 4: way it makes it adds to the gimmicky feel because

515
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, it's all for laughter, and yeah,

516
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 4: this is true.

517
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Speaker 2: That's a good idea.

518
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: That's a great idea, especially like this year, with like

519
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: everybody feeling like this was, you know, the last hurrah

520
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: for the Olympic team. There was all the like, you know,

521
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: questions about are they the world champions or is the

522
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: NBA team the World champions.

523
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Speaker 2: I feel like hockey used to do this. I don't

524
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: think they do it anymore, but I feel like that

525
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 2: was that was the All Star setup for hockey years ago.

526
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Speaker 1: Like North America versus the World?

527
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 2: Is that something like that? But like, yeah, I'd absolutely

528
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 2: be here for it because quite frankly, while yes, I

529
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: mean it, you know, the NBA is an American game

530
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: and we still have plenty of great American players. That

531
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Speaker 2: matchup would be pretty good. You know, given the fact

532
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Speaker 2: that you know, right off the bat, the top five

533
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Speaker 2: guys that are in the MVP conversation, no disrespect to

534
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Speaker 2: Jason Tatum, five of the top sixties guys that are

535
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Speaker 2: in the MVP conversation probably are on the world on

536
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Speaker 2: the world side.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you could also in my rules where you

538
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: could so you could play for your you can play

539
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: for like a chain that is worth more than your car,

540
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: or you could play for your Olympic gold medal like

541
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: the and it would be your opponents. It would be

542
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: your opponent's decision on like which of those you're playing for. Yeah,

543
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: just rip your chain off your neck.

544
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: Let me get that all right.

545
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: In terms of the NBA Cup Championship, you know Janie

546
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Speaker 1: and the Bucks, this has been kind of they've come

547
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: on suddenly and looked really good, and it's kind of

548
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: coincided with the Cup. I doubt that they were like,

549
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: all right, guys, this is the NBA Cup, We've got

550
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: to play for real now. I think they were trying

551
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 1: the whole time, and they started to figure everything out

552
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: and put it together around the time. Yeah, started to

553
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: get healthy around the time of the Cup. But you know,

554
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: Yannis put up thirty two, fourteen and nine as they

555
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 1: beat the Hawks to get to the finals, and then

556
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: the Thunder pretty convincingly beat the Rockets one eleven to

557
00:26:55,359 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: ninety six behind thirty two eight assis, five steals from Shay.

558
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a good matchup that you guys

559
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: have already watched. But I don't know, Okay, see, Like

560
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: it's interesting. So I understand why the Bucks are, like,

561
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, really focused and locked in right now because

562
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: they had such a tough start to the season and

563
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: everybody was doubting them right out of the gate. It's

564
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: kind of cool to see, okay see locked in at

565
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: this level for the NBA Cup though, you know, the

566
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Speaker 1: n season tournament. It's I feel like they are not

567
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: messing around. They're not messing around crew to quote the

568
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: TNT version of heat. But what what do you expect

569
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: to see? And have you have you guys been enjoying

570
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: the Cup?

571
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say I I actually think either you know,

572
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 4: I can really see you going either way. I love

573
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 4: Oklahoma City being in this. I loved how last year

574
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 4: it was kind of a platform for a player like

575
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 4: Tyre's Halberden and the Pacers to kind of ascend on

576
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 4: the national stage. And you know, he was doing kind

577
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 4: of a whole media tour. I hope, you know, the

578
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 4: Thunder are kind of getting that same boot. Bos and

579
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 4: it's honestly more fun to see those kinds of up

580
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 4: and coming teams that haven't had big playoff omens we have.

581
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 4: We haven't seen this thundercore in a big you know,

582
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 4: you know, really significant playoff moments. And I'd rather see

583
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 4: them there than seeing Golden State there, as much as

584
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 4: Golden State's fun to watch and certainly would be good

585
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 4: for the ratings and everything. But yeah, I think, you know,

586
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 4: the group the group stage, like the pool play games

587
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 4: were kind of tough to watch. I don't love the courts.

588
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 4: I think that some of it is kind of gets lost,

589
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 4: like people don't really does not that much hype around,

590
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 4: like the Tuesday games.

591
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: And all that.

592
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 4: But I will say I felt like once you were

593
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 4: in bracket play, like you could tell the players approach

594
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 4: those games with a lot of intensity. They can say

595
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: they care about it or they don't, but we know

596
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: from watching them whether or not they're bought into something.

597
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 4: And I did feel like all of those uh bracket

598
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 4: play games actually were super competitive and really fun watches.

599
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 4: So in that sense, like the league got some really

600
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 4: exciting games in November December that probably otherwise wouldn't have happened.

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Speaker 1: NBA Cup would be a good a good time to

602
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: introduce some of the stuff we were talking, like try

603
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: out the weird three point lines or I mean, they're

604
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: already messing with weird courts, why not mess with a

605
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: weird misshape three point line. I'm just saying.

606
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: And since we know the league, you know, listens to

607
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: every episode, literally listens to every episode. Yeah, yeah, feel free,

608
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: feel free. This this is our blessing to you.

609
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Just put your lawyers in touch with mine and

610
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: we'll work it out. I won't too much money. Yeah,

611
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: any points on that, Yeah, I got you points on

612
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: the back end. All right, let's take one more break.

613
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: We'll come back for the rapid fire round of questioning

614
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: to close out. We'll be right back and we're back.

615
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: And before we get to the rapid fire out of questioning, Noah,

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Speaker 1: we do like to pick a game of the week.

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Speaker 1: We didn't do it this past week because we didn't

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Speaker 1: know what the matchups were going to be at the

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Speaker 1: time we recorded due to the NBA Cup. But we're

620
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Speaker 1: trying to choose game for all of us to watch

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Speaker 1: with our listeners this week and talk about next week.

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Speaker 1: For some reason, the Celtics keep showing up on this list.

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00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 1: But all right, So Friday we got Bucks at Calves

624
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: that is on NBA TV, folks. Saturday we got a

625
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: couple options. We've got Warriors at Wolves or Clippers at MAVs,

626
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: and then Monday we got Celtics at Magic. Which of

627
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Speaker 1: those do you think we should be checking for.

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Speaker 4: It's tough, you know, obviously I have a Celtics bias,

629
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Speaker 4: but the Magic are missing their two best players.

630
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Speaker 1: Right now, so yeah, yeah, I guess we can't choose

631
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: that one.

632
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: Pablo's back practicing, but he's not quite back in the line.

633
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that Bucks at the Crows is kind

634
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: of looking good to me. That's also an NBA TV game,

635
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: so all our listeners could watch it.

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Speaker 4: That might be the one. Honestly, I do feel like

637
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 4: the Bucks have their turnaround has been pretty fun to watch,

638
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 4: and obviously the Calves are The Calves are really having

639
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 4: a dominant season so far. I don't want to say

640
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 4: it's going under the radar because everybody knows about their

641
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 4: seventeen oh star, but I feel like it's a little

642
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: bit going under the radar how dominant they've been, so yeah,

643
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 4: an opportunity to check them out versus another good Eastern

644
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: Conference team. Seems like a good game.

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Speaker 1: All right, that was a warm up and you got

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Speaker 1: it right. So congratulations on answering that one correct. And

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Speaker 1: now you are in the rapid fire round of questioning.

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Speaker 1: You're in the hot seat. You're in the hot zone.

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Speaker 1: This is just the fastest question answer segment in podcasting.

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Speaker 1: Sports are Otherwise, we're gonna fire a question to you.

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Speaker 1: We just want you to wrap rapid fire round it

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Speaker 1: back to us. No thought. We are idiots. We might,

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Speaker 1: we might accidentally distract you, but you can't. You got

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Speaker 1: to stay on focus. You got to stay on topic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's and if we dolly deli, it's literally your

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Speaker 2: responsibility to keep us on track.

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Speaker 1: So dilly and or dally, it's it's on you, all right, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Brian the claw there we go. All right, thank you

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Speaker 1: for in the editor. Okay, Jabar, you want to start,

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Speaker 1: I will jump us off.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Noah, give us your ultimate NBA JAM

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Speaker 3: combination and you can mix old school with current if

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Speaker 3: you want NBA jam.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a generational thing. I just realized there was.

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Speaker 4: I already have some challenges here.

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Speaker 1: So there was a that was the right answer at

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Speaker 1: the NBA Jam.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you mean played basketball, No, white man shout out

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Speaker 2: to white Mankanjo. Another old reference, Olden wats reference. But basically,

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Speaker 2: there was an NBA video game that we all played

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Speaker 2: growing up in the nineties, two on two. Two on two.

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Speaker 2: They generally would pick the two best players on like

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Speaker 2: on the roster, but for our game, you can pick

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Speaker 2: past and prison players.

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Speaker 1: At the time, I believe the Celtics had d Brown

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Speaker 1: and Dino Raja. Yes, it was, it was D Brown

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Speaker 1: and it was It was not a It's not the

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Speaker 1: glory days of the Celtics. So if you could pick

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Speaker 1: any two on two team for your NBA Jam combination

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Speaker 1: across the history of the.

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Speaker 4: Celtics, I'm just picking two players.

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Speaker 2: Two players that you that you would want in your

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Speaker 2: two tournament.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I'm gonna go with Paul Pierce and Bill Russell.

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Speaker 1: A Paul Pierce and Bill Russell is a great That

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Speaker 1: is answer. That is a great answer.

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Speaker 4: Wrong answer, thinking about like Bill just of a two

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Speaker 4: and two game.

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Speaker 1: But I just you know what you're so something that

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Speaker 1: you didn't consciously know but unconsciously anticipated, is that you

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Speaker 1: can goaltend in NBA Jam. Yes, and it would make

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Speaker 1: Bill Russell would be unstoppable, Like he would be the

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Speaker 1: greatest NBA JAM player of all time as long as

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Speaker 1: he had somebody who was good and could both dunk,

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Speaker 1: which is an important part of it, and also shoot threes.

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Speaker 1: And you. Yeah, so you've actually nailed that one. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: I was really rooting against you. Some of the stuff

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Speaker 1: you've said about the Celtics has really, uh, I broke

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Speaker 1: to my heart. But unfortunately you got that one right.

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Speaker 1: But let's see what you do with this. This is

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Speaker 1: a segment that Jabari added to the doc called We're

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Speaker 1: Sorry for jack Son. We are for real. I believe

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Speaker 1: it's supposed to be We're sorry for Jackson, we are

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Speaker 1: for real. Brian, Oh, that's Brian, Brian the edit. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: just a couple of things that happened to my sixers

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Speaker 1: this week that I just wanted for people who aren't

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Speaker 1: paying attention. Joel Embiid broke his orbital bone again. And

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Speaker 1: for context, there have been sixteen such fractures in fifteen

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Speaker 1: thousand seasons of basketball played by players in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: There's been sixteen total. Three of those have been Joel embiid.

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Speaker 1: So this man just has a very breakable orbital bone.

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Speaker 1: So that was bad. And then soon after we learned

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Speaker 1: that rookie Jared McCain has torn his meniscus and is out,

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Speaker 1: and definitely I saw a fellow Sixers fan respond to

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Speaker 1: that with the onion meme. Man who thought he'd lost

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Speaker 1: all hope loses last additional bit of hope he didn't

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Speaker 1: even know he still had. And that is exactly what

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Speaker 1: that news felt like to me. My question to you, Noah,

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Speaker 1: somebody who pays attention to a winning team whose success

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Speaker 1: sometimes feels inevitable, and you know, as somebody who roots

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Speaker 1: for a team that has the opposite of that, is

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Speaker 1: it tank in time? Is it tanky time for the

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Speaker 1: seventy six or should they just be like ah, embead's

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Speaker 1: orbital fracture worse than we thought and just go in

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Speaker 1: for Cooper flag? What do you think? I will add

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Speaker 1: an additional detail that if their pick is anywhere outside

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Speaker 1: of the top six, it goes to Oka se Sorry

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Speaker 1: I just started crying there for a second, it goes

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Speaker 1: to Oka sEH.

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Speaker 4: I say no, no to the tank because it is

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Speaker 4: still early on. If I had information that Dwell and

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Speaker 4: Beid is not going to be able to have a

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Speaker 4: healthy season here. If the situation with his knee is

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Speaker 4: worse than we know, then maybe you do. But at

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Speaker 4: the end of the day, you have Paul George, Tires, Maxie,

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Speaker 4: and Dwell Embiid all on the same team in a

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Speaker 4: really weak Eastern Conference. And as much as things have

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Speaker 4: sucked so far, like Milwaukee looked terrible a month ago,

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Speaker 4: and things look a lot better for them and this,

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Speaker 4: I actually picked Philadelphia as the number one thread to

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Speaker 4: Boston in the Eastern Conference, and I still think I

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Speaker 4: still understand why I did. Obviously they've had a bad

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Speaker 4: shake at things. But if you don't want to tank

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Speaker 4: when you have that much talent on your roster, especially

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Speaker 4: with the ages that they have, like they're just paying

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Speaker 4: too much money for guys like Paul George Well Embiid

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Speaker 4: like to just wash the season this early on, I

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Speaker 4: would say it's premature. And Jared McCain, I love Jared McCain.

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Speaker 4: It sucks that this happened, but he wasn't initially going

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Speaker 4: to be a major contributor this year, so I think

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Speaker 4: he got to maybe make some tradesmen figure it out.

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Speaker 4: But I wouldn't. I wouldn't go in that just with

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Speaker 4: the fan perspective, like it's just it's bad basketball karma

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Speaker 4: to do it so often.

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Speaker 1: And maybe we're finding that out right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if everyone can tell you, it would be them. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, one more for you. If we're in town

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Speaker 2: for one night for a game and need to grab

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Speaker 2: a bike, give us one spot they have to check

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Speaker 2: out in the Boston area. Your entire reputation as a

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Speaker 2: region is pending on this. On this choice.

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Speaker 4: I'm quite literally probably the worst person you could ask

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Speaker 4: because I'm vegan. So I'm now like, okay, p one

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Speaker 4: of like my vegan restaurants and give them a little

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Speaker 4: bit of a platform. Okay, So I would say my

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Speaker 4: Tie Cafe if you're if you're a curious person's close

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Speaker 4: to ted Garden. It's where I go sometimes before it's

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Speaker 4: really good Asian food. And then thinking something that's a

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Speaker 4: little bit more mainstream.

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Speaker 2: Quiz nos okay, cool, And I've never I've.

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Speaker 4: Literally i've never paused before a question until you guys

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Speaker 4: said it was rapid fire now only every time.

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Speaker 1: No, it's a power play, and I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 4: No, it's it's not that it's it's you know, it's

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Speaker 4: when they tell you that's the painting, and then you

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Speaker 4: just feel like you have to. I mean, there's like

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Speaker 4: a right next to the City Garden, there's like a

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Speaker 4: food hall, so that.

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Speaker 1: Would be the food hall at the td gad all right,

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Speaker 1: is there a legal seafood in there? Is there illegal

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Speaker 1: seafood in there?

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Speaker 4: Right there?

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Speaker 1: But that would be my local ad for the food

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Speaker 1: hall me as sean pen outside of the food hall?

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Speaker 1: Is there a legal seafood in there? Very dark reference,

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Speaker 1: very no, that's probably before your time. But anyways, Uh Noah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just getting word from our judges that you got

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Speaker 1: every one of those answers exactly right. So congratulations. It

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Speaker 1: was wonderful having you on Miles of Jack and sometimes

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Speaker 1: to got my boosties. Where can people find you? Follow you,

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Speaker 1: read you all that good stuff?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can find me on Twitter x blu Sky

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Speaker 4: all that just my name, no one else, el and

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Speaker 4: then and all my writing is on Espnation, espimation dot com,

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Speaker 4: and I have a podcast on YouTube Pologue by Boston.

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Speaker 4: We also have a postgame show after every Celtic scheme

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Speaker 4: on Seal on US Media. So pretty much. If you

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Speaker 4: find me on Twitter, I spam everything else over there.

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Speaker 1: There you go, all right, Well, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us. You can find me at Jack Underscore

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Speaker 1: O Brian on Twitter and Jack ob One on Blue Sky.

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Speaker 1: Miles is at Miles of Gray on Twitter and Blue

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Speaker 1: Sky Jabari. Where can people find you on Twitter?

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Speaker 2: Jabori A. Davis and on Blue Sky where I hang

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Speaker 2: out most of the time. Jabori Davis NBA.

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Speaker 1: And hashtag Matt Boosties for show links and updates, and

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Speaker 1: be sure to join the conversation on our discord up

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Speaker 1: which you can. You can also find the link for

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Speaker 1: when you search hashtag Mat Boosties. And that's another one

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Speaker 1: in the book. Wow, switch did it from way downtown.

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Speaker 1: We did it. Did it? We did it. They said

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Speaker 1: we couldn't do it, and we did it. That's right. Uh.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with special holiday year end episodes for

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Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks and then back in the

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Speaker 1: new year. I hope everybody has a great, safe holiday

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Speaker 1: and that all of your team's still undefeated. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to y'all all in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye,