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Speaker 1: Welcome to Big Blue Kick Off live right here on

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Speaker 1: to your Twitter questions if they come in today, and

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Speaker 1: making that a concerted effort over the course of the

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Speaker 1: off season to get to our folks on social media.

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Speaker 1: Not a whole lot going on in Giants Land. They

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Speaker 1: made a couple of roster moves yesterday. Nothing that fans

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Speaker 1: should you know, really make too big of a deal

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Speaker 1: about or or take necessarily that seriously. Um, just some

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Speaker 1: kind of bookkeeping and you know, preparing for the future

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Speaker 1: by the Giants will go through a couple of them

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Speaker 1: real quick. Paul. The first one, Avery Moss, who was

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Speaker 1: on the Giants practice squad the entire season, got signed

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Speaker 1: to a reserve future contract. And also, um, somebody from

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Speaker 1: outside the organization, Chad Slayed, a former Houston Texan six

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Speaker 1: five three fifteen pounds offensive lineman. So, um, those are

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Speaker 1: two guys that the Giants will have in camp next

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Speaker 1: year to compete for roster spots. Yeah, For me, Avery

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Speaker 1: Moster is a who's always intrigued me. I I told

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Speaker 1: people during training camp last year, I like his toolbox,

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Speaker 1: I like his skill set. The question is how raw

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Speaker 1: is he? Remember he was at Nebraska, then went to

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Speaker 1: Youngstown State, which then becomes a bigger, you know, gap

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Speaker 1: to bridge when you get to the NFL. And he

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Speaker 1: had a very serious hip injury to that he took

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Speaker 1: him down two years ago. You know, so his rookie

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Speaker 1: season was basically a rich shirt year for lack of

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Speaker 1: a better term. His second year last year was was

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Speaker 1: practice squad. And remember that hip injury happened late in

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Speaker 1: his rookie year, so that I think kind of took

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Speaker 1: some of the g I don't think he did anything

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Speaker 1: until mini camp or was it even training camp when

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Speaker 1: he first It might have been training camp when he

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Speaker 1: still intrigued by him because of his size, his stature

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Speaker 1: seventy you know, he's a big dude who had a

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Speaker 1: real proclivity to get to the quarterback in college. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I don't know again, where the coaches evaluated him. Obviously

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Speaker 1: they had him on the practice squad. They've resigned him.

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Speaker 1: They must think he's got something there or there'd be

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Speaker 1: no reason to bring him back. John Slade played in

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Speaker 1: five games with three stars for the Texans in guard tackle.

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Speaker 1: Last year, he was on the practice squad. He can

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Speaker 1: play both offensive line spots. Um started forty nine games

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Speaker 1: at Auburn fourteen as a senior. So those are the

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Speaker 1: two Rosster was very quickly. So what I did yesterday

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Speaker 1: and a little bit this morning, Paul, I kind of

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Speaker 1: went back. I looked at some of the stats Um,

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Speaker 1: not the basic numbers that we all look at every

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Speaker 1: thought were interesting to kind of get in deep on

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Speaker 1: where the Giants kind of did well and did poorly

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Speaker 1: offensively and defensively this year. What side of the ball

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Speaker 1: Your better started guard offense because defense was cut of ugly. Well,

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Speaker 1: there were some ugly on numbers on offense too. And

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Speaker 1: this is what I wrote about in I believe it

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Speaker 1: the two things that jumped out of me, and I'll

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Speaker 1: It was one of the worst in the league. I

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Speaker 1: best way to move the ball in this league poll

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Speaker 1: at next year. Be a much better first down offense team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and coach Shermoer had said during the course of the

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Speaker 1: season a number of times there's nothing wrong with playing

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Speaker 1: CFL football, which, as you know, if you know anything

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Speaker 1: He's like, there's nothing wrong with getting the first down

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Speaker 1: by the way, that's what the best teams do. Well. Yeah, Now,

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Speaker 1: the only thing I would say, John, and I really

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I'm not trying to be funny here.

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Speaker 1: I would take all of this with a grain of salt,

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Speaker 1: because the offense was entirely different after the bye week,

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Speaker 1: once they got that fourth edition of the offensive line

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Speaker 1: scared away, this offense was completely different. But they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be ranked thirty second if they got that much. Well,

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Speaker 1: they were that far behind the eight ball when they

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Speaker 1: But if their glass there last, perhaps I look, it's

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Speaker 1: like what I said to some people who gave me,

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Speaker 1: uh some rankings. So they pulled up somebody's rankings ESPN, F,

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning's like the rated quarterback by by all these

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Speaker 1: different rankings from all these different people. And I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: so you're gonna penalize him for the first eight games

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Speaker 1: they hardly had any running game going, and things were

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Speaker 1: just a mess. Why don't we Why don't we do

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Speaker 1: what gentleman's gonna do. Gentleman's gonna say, we know that

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Speaker 1: the last eight games were more indicative of the of

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Speaker 1: the offense that we expect to have going into next year.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't not say much truer sense of

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Speaker 1: don't think you can just throw out the first eight

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Speaker 1: we don't pay attention to don't. I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: because think you throw them they were part of the season.

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Speaker 1: Here's what you do. You look at those those films

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Speaker 1: on an individual basis, Like what Dave said, you want

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Speaker 1: I think in that regard you pay attention to those games.

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Speaker 1: But because the Giants was so dramatically different in the

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Speaker 1: second half of the season, the big picture stuff, I

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Speaker 1: think you heavily weigh the second half of the season

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Speaker 1: much much more than the first half. It's it's not

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Speaker 1: I think that's dangerous to make believe you didn't have

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Speaker 1: I think it's very on an individual basis, yeah right,

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Speaker 1: I would disagree because they did their self scout during

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Speaker 1: needed to fix, and look how successful they weren't doing it.

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Speaker 1: Because you'd have to evaluate the coaching staff then as

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Speaker 1: well and say, well, what didn't they do right in

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Speaker 1: addition to the personnel not doing it right? Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: you why they fixed it. Here's the thing, though, they

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Speaker 1: fixed it because they were able to play the way

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Speaker 1: get if you're behind the games, you can't play the

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Speaker 1: But you just reinforced my point because it was a

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Speaker 1: they wanted to do. No, No, that's are supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: I understand that, But don't you want to be able

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Speaker 1: play action if you after But here's the thing moving forward,

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna be what that offense was back in September.

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Speaker 1: They never want to see that offense ever again. What

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Speaker 1: if you down multiple scores. They are going to do

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Speaker 1: what they have to do in this offseason to enhance

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Speaker 1: They're gonna win a Super Bowl next year at nearly

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Speaker 1: thirty nearly thirty points a game john over the last

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Speaker 1: But you can't throw out the first eight weeks. Now,

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Speaker 1: you're not listening. I said, I'm virtually throwing them out.

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Speaker 1: That's what throwing them out because again even more numbers

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Speaker 1: Can we have a discussion in the first half of

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Speaker 1: the season. I think it's important on an individual basis

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Speaker 1: that you grade the players all the way through. But

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Speaker 1: this was a totally different offense. If you talk to

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Speaker 1: any of these coaches, they'll tell you they made significant adjustments.

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Speaker 1: There's the thing. If you got a flat tire on

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Speaker 1: you worried about the flat tire on Friday. No, it's fixed, Paul.

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Speaker 1: But here's the fix. You didn't. You schemed around your problems.

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Speaker 1: You didn't fix the problems. They were a heck of

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Speaker 1: a lot more balanced in the second half of the

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Speaker 1: the biggest the way they played because they could right,

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Speaker 1: because they played close games and they were in games.

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Speaker 1: If you go behind and you're playing a high powered

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Speaker 1: struggle protecting those issues you have from the first half

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Speaker 1: of the year gonna come back. Their sac rate on

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Speaker 1: non play action passes was the exact same in the

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Speaker 1: second half of the year as it wasn't the first half.

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Speaker 1: There they're not a team that's gonna play rack made football,

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Speaker 1: but that's not what they're they're they're built to do,

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Speaker 1: and that's what they're not going to be built to do.

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Speaker 1: Even in September. But don't you want to try to

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Speaker 1: And one isn't that odds because good throwing down the field,

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Speaker 1: good throwing down the field, But third and long? What

431
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Speaker 1: didn't work out that they probably did that in the

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Speaker 1: early question. That's what that tells you. That's exactly what

433
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Speaker 1: that tells you, which which again goes back to the dilemma. Okay,

434
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Speaker 1: how much of a problem is it? Is it more

435
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Speaker 1: of when you were forced to do it as opposed

436
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Speaker 1: to your ability to do it on occasion? And they

437
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 1: were tied for eighth in the league with fifty nine

438
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Speaker 1: passes of twenty yards and more, which I thought was

439
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Speaker 1: a really good number. So that'll check down, Charlie thing.

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Speaker 1: You can throw that out that that doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 1: Um red zone score, we talked about a tied for

442
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Speaker 1: seven in the league. Touchdown percentage that's brutal. That's something

443
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Speaker 1: that has to get better. UM one other number that

444
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Speaker 1: I liked, and it talks to the unpredictability. I'm not

445
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Speaker 1: sure if you're gonna like this number, but I like them.

446
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Speaker 1: I think teams can suns fall into the traff of

447
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Speaker 1: being too predictable in terms of running every first down.

448
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Speaker 1: The Giants this year, what do you think they're run

449
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Speaker 1: percentage is on first intense intense? Yes, And where they

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Speaker 1: rank in terms of frequency of runs, I'd say probably

451
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Speaker 1: in the neighborhood at the eight point four nineteenth in

452
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Speaker 1: the league least frequent. And just to give you a

453
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Speaker 1: better idea, their overall run percentage in the first halves

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Speaker 1: of games, so this is before, so you take out

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Speaker 1: trying to come from behind. That of the equation is

456
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Speaker 1: just first half. Overall in the league, only a thirty

457
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Speaker 1: seven percent run percentage in the first half of games

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Speaker 1: this year, and that's indicative. Think about this for a second.

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Speaker 1: That's indicative of having so much problems getting that run

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Speaker 1: game going correct, the consistent run game going to where

461
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Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, you know what, our first down situation

462
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Speaker 1: is so bad, we gotta chuck correct and again I

463
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Speaker 1: don't like the overall numbers. I think you want a

464
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Speaker 1: better percentage in that. But I do like the first

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Speaker 1: in ten numbers. You know, getting it right around exactly,

466
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Speaker 1: I think is a good way to stay unpredictable and

467
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Speaker 1: making teams what you're gonna do real quickly. In the defense, UM,

468
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Speaker 1: a few things that jumped out to me. The Giants

469
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Speaker 1: forced the third fewest negative plays on defense while the

470
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Speaker 1: offense and negati of five hundred plus yards of negative

471
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Speaker 1: yards on offense, the defense had only three forced three

472
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Speaker 1: hundred and two negative yards. That's a two yard difference.

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Speaker 1: It's a big, big deal. Hence Dave Gettleman saying the

474
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Speaker 1: Giants need impact players defense. And that goes back to sacked,

475
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Speaker 1: which is thirty. The league averages forty, by the way, ago, Um,

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Speaker 1: that's another one. UM. Opposing teams inside the thirty yard

477
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Speaker 1: line had the highest passer rating against the Giants and

478
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Speaker 1: any other team in the league one on one point six.

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Speaker 1: And and you know the secondary which did have injuries

480
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Speaker 1: later on. I'm not gonna say they didn't. They traded

481
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Speaker 1: die Apple and they got nicked up back there, Collins

482
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: was out, etcetera, etcetera. But I'm not gonna let them

483
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Speaker 1: get away with that as an excuse, because that was

484
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: a problem all season long. Third down conversion is also

485
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Speaker 1: a problem all season long, Polly. In the league, um

486
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Speaker 1: just not very good. Now, they did do well on

487
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Speaker 1: third and very long, there were fourth in the league.

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Speaker 1: They're allowing teams will do But and this has got

489
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Speaker 1: to tell you. If the Giants were the fourth best

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Speaker 1: team in the league on all third down conversions of

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Speaker 1: ten or more yards, right on third and six yards

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Speaker 1: or more, they were ranked, which tells me between six

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Speaker 1: and nine yards, they were probably the worst team in

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Speaker 1: football on third down defense. And that's like the opposite

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Speaker 1: of the issue on offense and plays of less than

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Speaker 1: four yards. They were twenty six in the league in

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Speaker 1: terms of stopping people on third down. So third down

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Speaker 1: defense is a real big problem, and the other big problem, Paul.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing to be bad on third downs, and

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Speaker 1: you can survive that if you don't allow a lot

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Speaker 1: of big plays. Well, the Giants a lot a lot

502
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Speaker 1: of big plays. Thirty one in the league, sixty one

503
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: passes or sixty one plays overall, no completions. It was

504
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Speaker 1: passes of twenty yards or more thirty one in the league.

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Speaker 1: And that's not surprising if you watch this team play

506
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Speaker 1: all year. I mean, and quite honestly, Okay, quite honestly,

507
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Speaker 1: and I'm not going to point figures at any names here,

508
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Speaker 1: but I'm just simply gonna say there were a lot

509
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Speaker 1: of times when certain players should have been able to

510
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Speaker 1: help out other players and they didn't do it, and

511
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Speaker 1: that was a big, big problem. Here's a weird one

512
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Speaker 1: for you, and this will be the last one I

513
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Speaker 1: give you before we get to the calls at say,

514
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Speaker 1: we're agreeing on most of this stuff. What do you

515
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Speaker 1: think about fourth down defense, which can be very important

516
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Speaker 1: at the ends of games because teams would then start

517
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Speaker 1: going for it. What do you think opposing teams converted

518
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Speaker 1: on the Giants on fourth down this year? You know what,

519
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Speaker 1: That's not one that I was very cognizant of. It

520
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Speaker 1: doesn't happen very often, so it's understandable. Well, how many,

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Speaker 1: how many were even attempted? I don't have that, Oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: I have a percentage? That's it. Okay, it was. I'm

523
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Speaker 1: gonna say it might have been as high as two

524
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Speaker 1: worse than the league. The league average is fifty five

525
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Speaker 1: point seven. You want to know why you're maybe losing

526
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Speaker 1: some of the games at the end of these games

527
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Speaker 1: when teams are starting off fourth down. Yeah, there you go. Yeah,

528
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: that's brutal. Well, we we know the defense gave up

529
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Speaker 1: fourth late leads that that Manning had given them and

530
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Speaker 1: those leads went by the boards. We don't remind you

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Speaker 1: throughout the year. Let's go to the phones and I'll

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Speaker 1: help if add my phone document up to look who's

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Speaker 1: calling in? But now I do, so, Let's go to

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Speaker 1: and I'm scrolling. I'm scrolling Draft Capital. Mike in Long Island. Sure,

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Speaker 1: what's up, Mike. I just want to make sure you

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Speaker 1: guys remember who I am. Well I will now Mike,

539
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Speaker 1: what's going on? Back? Okay? Okay to two questions I'd

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Speaker 1: like to ask you. One is, can somebody explain to

541
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Speaker 1: me how the New England Patriots can get all these

542
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: late round draft picks because they come in first place

543
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: every year, you still wind up as good as they are.

544
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Speaker 1: And I can tell you what I think The answer is,

545
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: there are a lot of reasons, well, you know, Mike.

546
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Speaker 1: And the funny thing, if you look at their success

547
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: rate on draft picks, it's not great. They actually don't

548
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: draft that well. But they will give up on guys quickly,

549
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: get him out of town. They make a lot of trades.

550
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: They value veteran free agents more than other teams. And

551
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: like you said, Bill Belichick knows how to get the

552
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: most out of his players. And I think that's a

553
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: big deal. You know. I think the underrated comment that

554
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: John just made, and it's very underrated. When when they

555
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: figure out that a guy isn't the guy, he's gone.

556
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: They don't waste any time and holding onto a guy

557
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: on scholarship. They just don't do it, you know. And

558
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Speaker 1: I agree. But the thing is is you if you

559
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Speaker 1: watch the game, the playoff game this past weekend, they

560
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: beat the hell out of these guys. They did it

561
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. And yet they didn't do that really all season,

562
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Speaker 1: and yet when it counts, they beat the hell out

563
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Speaker 1: of And it's funny, Mike, when if you want, if

564
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Speaker 1: you send the Tony Romol call in the game. And

565
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Speaker 1: I thought a couple of things said was interesting. One

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Speaker 1: he said before the game that if the Charges will

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Speaker 1: go out and run their cover three, tom Brady's gonna

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Speaker 1: pick him apart. That's exactly what happened. Then during the game,

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Speaker 1: he's pointing out these plays where he's like, the Patriots

570
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: haven't run that playoff season. The Patriots haven't run that

571
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Speaker 1: playoff season. The Patriots haven't run that playoff season, and

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Speaker 1: he studies the tape. So it just shows you that

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Speaker 1: he Belichick is is a chameleon. And this just kind

574
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: of goes back to a point I were talking about earlier.

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Speaker 1: The Giants right now could only win a certain way.

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00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is such a good coach. We've seen the

577
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: Patriots team wins a passing team, as a running team,

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Speaker 1: as a front team, as a secondary team, as a

579
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 1: turnover team. They can win in so many different ways.

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Speaker 1: That's how good Bill Belichick is and what he does. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're you're you're you're a boxing fan at all, Mike,

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Speaker 1: uh No, No, I'm not really a boxing fan, but

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Speaker 1: I I could you know, when you were saying that,

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Speaker 1: it reminded me since I'm a Long Islander, I was

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00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: an island a fan. And when the island is won

586
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: four Family Cups in a row. They could play cuffs,

587
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: they could play the fast game, they could play any

588
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: kind of game you wanted to play. They were able

589
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: to play it well. The the the old saying in

590
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Speaker 1: sports is that styles make fights. It's a boxing phrase,

591
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Speaker 1: but it really does apply across the board in a

592
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: lot of ways to the other sports. And and I

593
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: like what John just said about Chameleon. That is Belichick.

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00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: Belichick will play any style you want and we'll find

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Speaker 1: a way to beat you. Well, he'll play the style

596
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: that exploits your weakness. And that's what he's able to do.

597
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: He's able to figure out. No one's better at identifying

598
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: the other team's weakness and how you beat them them

599
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, and then he's good enough to adjust his

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Speaker 1: game plan on the fly. I forget what player it was.

601
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: I forget what player was. But he got to the

602
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: Patriots in week eight and he's like, well, can't you guys,

603
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, give me the playbook and so I can

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Speaker 1: study into shame. Verne told us, yeah, it might have

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Speaker 1: been Verne. And a guy got there and he said

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Speaker 1: he got their mid season in a tr eight. I

607
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: think maybe it was the tight end they got from

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Speaker 1: the Bucks. Maybe John think can see if it was.

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Speaker 1: And he said, guys, can you give me the playbook

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Speaker 1: so I can at least, you know, bring it home

611
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: and I can study it and figure out what's going on.

612
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: And they said, no, that's not gonna help you. He goes,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean that's not gonna help it. He goes, oh,

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Speaker 1: we we basically create a whole new playbook every week.

615
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: He goes, well, don't you at least have like the

616
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Speaker 1: basic stuff from training camp and I at least look

617
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: at that. And they literally said, no, there's no point.

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Speaker 1: We will literally give you the plays each week that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna run, and every week it's going to be

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Speaker 1: different based on the opponent. That's why the Patriots are

621
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Speaker 1: who they are. And even during the course of a game,

622
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Speaker 1: if a team says we're gonna slow it down into

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Speaker 1: the mud, Belt just says, fine, okay, we just hit

624
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Speaker 1: a button. We slow it down into the mud, it

625
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: will still beat you. It's incredible being a Giant fan

626
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: and watching that and having that coach he was out

627
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Speaker 1: coach at one point. Very frustrating to see that we

628
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Speaker 1: don't have him, you know. But a different subject now,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the draft for a brief

630
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Speaker 1: a brief minute or two. Um, we have a lot

631
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Speaker 1: of late round draft picks. And I found that late

632
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Speaker 1: round draft picks. You know, obviously, you know you lose

633
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: more than your hit, Okay, But I found that watching

634
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: people draft that if you find it's easier to find

635
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: these kinds of position players later in the rounds. In

636
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Speaker 1: my opinion, a blocking tight end a and I'm talking

637
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: about burly guys. I want nasty, nasty guys for tight

638
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: ends and fullbacks. Now, Penny was a pretty good decent fullback,

639
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: but he's not burly enough for me. I want a

640
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna blow the guy out. And so we

641
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Speaker 1: have running you know, running plays. We could move the

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Speaker 1: ball second and two, A third and two third and

643
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Speaker 1: four we make those, you know, we make first Dake,

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Speaker 1: how about you just go jumble formation and stick an

645
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Speaker 1: extra alignment in the backfield. That's kind of what you

646
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Speaker 1: want to do, isn't it. Well, you know, I want

647
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Speaker 1: smash map football. Smash map football. Maddy could last another

648
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Speaker 1: year or two stand so you know, that's what I'm

649
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Speaker 1: thinking for for late round draft picks. Also, safeties, you

650
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Speaker 1: can get a safety in the late rounds. Okay, that's um,

651
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not maybe you know a more in

652
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Speaker 1: line safety rather than a that absolutely, yeah, usually the

653
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: covered safeties will go earlier. You can find some guys

654
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Speaker 1: that can play in the box late. That's that that

655
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: you're correct about. Well, you know that's what I'm hoping for,

656
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: some nasty guys. No fooling around anymore. Let's go get him.

657
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: All right, Thank you, appreciating Mike draft capital Mike on

658
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: Long wanting to Mike Shermer comes from the Eagles old

659
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: school thought that you're gonna have three or four guys

660
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Speaker 1: at the bottom of your roster. Because he's admitted this

661
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: to us, who are going to be basically special teams

662
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: guys and they might not do anything else for you

663
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: all season. He's made that clear. Was because the Eagles

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Speaker 1: did that under Andy Reid forever, and they've always had

665
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Speaker 1: everywhere Andy Reid's gone with that philosophy a top special team.

666
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Speaker 1: Antonio Hamilton's would be an example for the Giants a second.

667
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: There you go, and they tried to adopt that philosophy

668
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Speaker 1: this year, and he was one of those guys who

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Speaker 1: was that guy? All right, Now here's the thing. All right,

670
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Speaker 1: you gotta be careful because the general rule of thumb

671
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Speaker 1: in the NFL is when you get down to rounds

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Speaker 1: six and seven, Okay, the general rule of thumb is,

673
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Speaker 1: we're not so much looking at the players scouting report.

674
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Speaker 1: We're looking at his physicality and speed because you can't

675
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: teach speed and you can't teach size, all right, And

676
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Speaker 1: those are the guys that usually go earlier in the draft,

677
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Speaker 1: and and and if there are any of those guys

678
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Speaker 1: left over, it's because they didn't necessarily have the full

679
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Speaker 1: talent component to be higher draft picks, or they have

680
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Speaker 1: off the field so issues, they got stuff in their

681
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: in their profile that says a medical not whatever. So

682
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: what happens is a lot of teams will reserve their

683
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: six and seven spots for those kinds of players, speak

684
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: guys and dimensions guys because they think, all right, worst

685
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: comes to worst, he plays special teams for us. So

686
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Speaker 1: they're not usually looking for the player that you're looking for.

687
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Speaker 1: Because you're trying to find a functional player who can

688
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Speaker 1: actually give you a role on a offense or defense.

689
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Speaker 1: Usually the NFL philosophy is not to do that. But

690
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Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. Well, if they keep that

691
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Speaker 1: volume of picks in the third day, they can do both.

692
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Speaker 1: If they keep what's anticipated to be eleven, right, it

693
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Speaker 1: will be nine on day three. We we know so

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Speaker 1: far there's nine for sure, and the estimate is that

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Speaker 1: they'll get an extra one in the fourth and fifth. Yes,

696
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Speaker 1: and we'll see if that happens. When they announced compensatory picks,

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Speaker 1: which I don't believe it is still March, I think

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Speaker 1: I did not. I don't think there is a set

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Speaker 1: date for it. That's why. Yeah, I don't think there's

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Speaker 1: a set day if they were back from the combine. Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: it's the same way. There's no set day for the

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Speaker 1: schedule release. It kind of just happens when they're ready. Two. Well,

703
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Speaker 1: do do you know why? I think they have to

704
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Speaker 1: wait too to see and if guys get cut before

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Speaker 1: free agency, I think that might affect maybe the formula

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't know that it's such a

707
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Speaker 1: it's like the coke formula. It's it's such an opaque formula.

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Speaker 1: Nobody really quite knows what's in Now to five, one, three,

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Speaker 1: the year. Let's go to A J and South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: He's up next, a J. What's up? Thanks for checking out, Kyle.

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Speaker 1: I know the pass of Josh Allen. Do you think

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Speaker 1: you'd be there? Sick? I would hope so. Um, he's

715
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: exactly the type of edge rusher that James Betcher would

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Speaker 1: love to have. He's not the biggest guy, but he's

717
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: got speed off the edge. I actually just started watching him.

718
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: I watch half the Penn State game before we jumped on. Um.

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Speaker 1: He's quick, he's not the biggest guy, He's not your

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Speaker 1: if this was the four three defense, the team will

721
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Speaker 1: be calling him between her and being very upset about

722
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: even talking about him. But he fits in what in

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Speaker 1: what Betcher wants to do. He does he does? You know,

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Speaker 1: I've I've I've seen some things and again I haven't

725
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Speaker 1: gone to it yet, but I've seen some people who

726
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Speaker 1: think he's a top five. I've heard that too, But

727
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Speaker 1: then again, I remember everyone a. Leonard Williams is the

728
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: top five three years ago and then he dropped. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say. I'm not saying there's a good

730
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Speaker 1: chance he's there, but there's definitely a chance. There's a chance.

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Speaker 1: It's a chance. Well, my thanks, I know I know

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Speaker 1: the time target like safety and I like to have

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Speaker 1: U for Matthews. Oh you want Honey Badger. Oh yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know I would probably if I was gonna look

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Speaker 1: to get a safety in free agency, I might consider

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Speaker 1: Trey Boston, who also comes off the Cardinals roster. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, Betcher knows obviously Honey bad from his time

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Speaker 1: in Arizona. But Trey Boston is a guy who I

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Speaker 1: kind of would would think about. Um, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what his price is going to be, and that's certainly

741
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Speaker 1: gonna be a big factor. I mean, Trey Boston wasn't

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Speaker 1: Did he not get signed until after the season started

743
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Speaker 1: or very late in training camp? I think he got

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00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: signed really late. He's a he's a decent player. Though

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Speaker 1: it's a decent player. Uh, And they sign him right

746
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Speaker 1: They signed him right before camp started on July. That's

747
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Speaker 1: when he was signed by the Cardinals. A lot of

748
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Speaker 1: I knew it was late. A lot of safeties went late.

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Speaker 1: Only according to the um Ian rappaport um, it was

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Speaker 1: worth one point five million with the max value of three.

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Speaker 1: He didn't so he didn't cross over with betche at

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Speaker 1: all I thought he did. I thought he was with

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00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 1: the Chargers. I think before then. Um yeah, my list

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Speaker 1: for safeties I had. I have Amost from the Bears,

755
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Speaker 1: Clinton Dix from the Redskins, Boston from the Cardinals. I

756
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Speaker 1: wiped off Joiner because he's gonna be too expensive. I

757
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't even think of. But he's the type of coverage

758
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: guy you want, which is the shame of it. And

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00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: and Amos is not Amos is their box safety, he's

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Speaker 1: not their coverage safety. But not knowing exactly what landon Collins,

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Speaker 1: the situation would be, I would talk to Amos, that's there,

762
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Speaker 1: and Clinton Dick will make a good play here there,

763
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Speaker 1: But then he has some busts. Two man, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If it were me, I'd rather draft the guy than

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Speaker 1: sign any one of those fellows could be perfectly frank Again,

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Speaker 1: those coverage safeties don't last long because there's not many

767
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Speaker 1: of them that are good to play that single high spot.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, you only have so many picks.

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Speaker 1: This is true. Still a lot of needs, so a

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Speaker 1: lot of needs. The team is the team with five

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Speaker 1: and eleven. They're not there yet, to five on three. Oh,

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Speaker 1: thank you for I appreciate it. I totally forgeob. We

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Speaker 1: can say goodbye to j Let's go to Nigel and

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Speaker 1: Maryland online too. He's up next. Let's up Nigel. How

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00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: are you, buddy? No, no worries. What's up Pal? What's up? Guys?

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Speaker 1: Um a vain. I'm looking at the roster. I mean

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at um. I'm really like, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say bother of my mind, but I'm really just

779
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Speaker 1: looking at the how we are just so devoid of

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Speaker 1: like homegrown talent in regards to just the way we

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Speaker 1: have homegrown talent. I mean on the offensive side, yeah,

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00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: and our skills positions, yeah, where is great. But then

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00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: you look conversely on the defensive side, I mean we

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Speaker 1: have what in the last two three years. Off the

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Speaker 1: top of my head, I can think of what Dalvin,

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Speaker 1: Tom Thomlinson and in Landing and everything else is pretty

787
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Speaker 1: much what free agents Nigel. There's the bottom line. There's

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Speaker 1: a reason though a change was made at the general

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Speaker 1: manager position last year. That's got you cut and dry,

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Speaker 1: and and that's why I take offense when some people

791
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Speaker 1: call in and they say, well, you know, what's Kettleman

792
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Speaker 1: doing blah blah blah. I'm like, wait a minute, the

793
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Speaker 1: guy's been here for a year. It was you can't

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Speaker 1: it was old responsible. It was a pretty bare cupboard

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Speaker 1: when he got here. There's a reason they're only fifteen

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Speaker 1: guys left from the roster last year by the end

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Speaker 1: of the season. I mean, so, I think anybody who

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Speaker 1: evaluates what Geentleman has done and is fair about it

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Speaker 1: and looks at what he did in his first year

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Speaker 1: has to say there was a lot of turnover and

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys who did help put the team

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Speaker 1: in the right direction, and and to say anything more

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Speaker 1: than that would be unfair because he hasn't even had

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00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: a chance that year two. Yet. Absolutely, I agree. If

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Speaker 1: you move into an empty house and takes some time

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Speaker 1: right there, you go and and and and nonageally. I

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna build on that metaphor for a second. And

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Speaker 1: when you move into a new place, sometimes the people

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Speaker 1: that were there before they leave some furniture behind. And

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Speaker 1: you don't want to go out and pay for new

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Speaker 1: furniture right away, cause you just bought a house. Right

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Speaker 1: She's like, all right, I'll put I'm gonna keep this

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Speaker 1: new furniture for a little while, but then but then

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Speaker 1: you get to the next year and you're like, boy,

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Speaker 1: I really hate this freaking furniture. I need to get

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Speaker 1: the stuff out of here exactly right. There you go,

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Speaker 1: There you go. And on my last point, um Um

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Speaker 1: kind of gravitated the playoffs situation looking at the match

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Speaker 1: up with the Rams and the Saints. Awesome matchup. I

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Speaker 1: know everybody's kind of pulling for the Saints or kind

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Speaker 1: of thing in the Saints are gonna do it, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm against Um, I don't see that.

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Speaker 1: I think the key is the way they play because

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Speaker 1: C J. Anderson, if that old line plays the same

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Speaker 1: way it played last week with no Sheldon rankings in there,

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Speaker 1: it they may be able to control the ball, which

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Speaker 1: will be pretty interesting to see what they do. And

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Speaker 1: on the flip side of the a f C with

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Speaker 1: with Casey, they have to stop that run, especially with

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Speaker 1: the weather is indicative of what they're saying it's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: And the interior rush, I know we all know with

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Speaker 1: our Giants history, the way that interior rush had Greaty

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Speaker 1: going in the Super Bowl. If Jones can get it

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Speaker 1: going and Houston and Ford come off the edge. They

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Speaker 1: may have it. They'll have a great chance. And thanks

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Speaker 1: you all. Enjoy the Joe Show and I follow you

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Speaker 1: guys on Twitter. Remember, don't forget about Jones inside for them,

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00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: you talk about inside rush about him first with this

839
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Speaker 1: fifteen sacks here or something ridiculous like that. And they're

840
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Speaker 1: by the way. Their defense is much better at home

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Speaker 1: if you look at the numbers, and it's no surprise

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Speaker 1: given how loud that building gets, it gives that pass

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Speaker 1: rush a little bit of an extra step right off

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Speaker 1: the snap. Well, they got the record for the highest festivals.

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Speaker 1: Remember I I don't know you and I have bopen

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Speaker 1: around the league now to all the different stadiums. I've

847
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: even been to Kansas City when they were really good

848
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: though that's the problem. Oh and and and to me,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City, Seattle and New Orleans when their team is

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Speaker 1: going well and they need their crowd behind them. I

851
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: think they may be the three loudest stadiums that I've experienced. Yeah,

852
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: those are way up there. I think when the Metro

853
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: Dome got really loud, that place could buzz a little

854
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: bit too. Yeah, I think, I think, I think you

855
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: never did a game never never Metdome. I mean, the

856
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: lines just haven't been good enough. Those are the three

857
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: for me that just they're head and shoulders above everybody. Yeah,

858
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think I think you're right.

859
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: I meanking on that. If you got a third and

860
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: ten and you're down by a touchdown or two, it's

861
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: not a pretty place to be. Yeah, and yeah, I

862
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: mean I think we saw last week that the Chiefs were.

863
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: I think people forgot how good the Chiefs were. On

864
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: the bye week, people like, oh, the Cults are going

865
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: there and they're way, it's not a problem. And I

866
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: think people forgot how good the Chiefs were. The Chiefs

867
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: had I didn't think it was not gonna be a problem,

868
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: But I did have the Colts because I thought that

869
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: that their offensive line would not succumb, and they did

870
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: succom And I think that and I think the weather

871
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: affected the past, the downfield past game a little bit too,

872
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: which by the way, is going to be an issue

873
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: again this week there forecasting subzero temperature when bad weather though,

874
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: they do well, but but I think it's gonna hurt

875
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 1: the Chiefs more than it's gonna hurt the Patriots. Oh yes,

876
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know, I didn't know where you're going with

877
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I just think it's gonna be

878
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: a factor in the game. I mean, I think the

879
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,959
Speaker 1: Chiefs are by far the most explosive offense time Brady

880
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: can throw those those seven yard hitches and he doesn't care.

881
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: He doesn't care. I do think going back to the

882
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: other game, though, there's no doubt that Rankins is a

883
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: big loss for the Saints, but they're very sound defensively.

884
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: In the run game, they are good and and look

885
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 1: it to me, this is another one of those styles

886
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: make fights things. If the Rams can slow the game

887
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: down and they can run the ball, it's the best

888
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: chance to win. And if the game gets into track meet,

889
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: I like the Saints chances to win. I really think

890
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: the style of the game is going to dictate who

891
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: has the edge. I don't think Jared Goss there yet.

892
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think he's a above average quarterback.

893
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a very good quarterback yet.

894
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he's there yet. I think you can

895
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 1: bother him with pressure. He doesn't move that well. And

896
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: while the Scenes don't have a great pass rush, they

897
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: play a lot of man to man defense. I don't

898
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: think the Rams have receivers outside that are gonna kill

899
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: you in man to man. So you put all those

900
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: things together, I agree. I like the Saints, and I

901
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: just don't think the Patriots are talented enough. I think

902
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm rooting Frandy Read to get over the hump.

903
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna I think it's gonna be the

904
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: two one seeds the Chiefs in the Saints. But we'll see.

905
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: I got I got the Saints in the Patriots who

906
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: Patriots close? But I think the game's gonna wind up

907
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: being in the thirties in New Orleans, and that's why

908
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 1: the Saints will win, absolutely, And I like the Saints

909
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: to win at all. But I've said that now for

910
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: the last several weeks. Yeah, I'm with you there, and

911
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: I think both of us are very surprised. And you

912
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: talked about this yesterday. I have a chance yet, And

913
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: of all the way that Ram Cowboy game could have won,

914
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: I even washed it yet I still have it on

915
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: the DVR. Is gonna watch it tonight. Who would have

916
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: thought it would go that way? With the look and

917
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: the Cowboys copied what the Bears did against the Rams,

918
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 1: and I forget what the other team that that slowed

919
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: the Rams offense down, and they basically dared the Rams

920
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: to run the ball. They said, look, we're gonna not

921
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: let you throw it with your play action pass and

922
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: your high team, big play offense, and you're gonna run

923
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: the ball. And you know what, Rams ran the ball.

924
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: It's kind of like when when in one of those

925
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 1: old use somebody say a cartoons and bugs Bunny plugged

926
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: up his pistol and boom, it went backwards his face.

927
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: And the funny thing about it though, and again I

928
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: haven't watched the game all the day through. This is

929
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: just going off the highlights. If the Cowboys convert that

930
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: fourth and one at the Rams thirty yard line or

931
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: whatever it was, they have a chance to tie the

932
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: game there, I know, I know, And that's a whole

933
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: new ball game. And and with again with that offensive line,

934
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: you're thinking they got a chance to make it. Yeah,

935
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: well that that line is done not the same though,

936
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: not the same, but still one of the better ones.

937
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: And they got Elliot running the ball and they had

938
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: about five Rams stuffed him for nothing. Again, I don't

939
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't like jam and everybody into a small space there,

940
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: especially with the Don with the donnikin Sue and Aaron

941
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: Donald in there, and Michael Brocker's I mean, they have

942
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: some good, big people. And the Cowboys hadn't run the

943
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: ball well all game. If you look at the final

944
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: numbers again, I gotta watch the actually on the trenches,

945
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: the rams. They owned the trenches on both sides. Yes, yes,

946
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: that wasn't supposed to happen. The why they play the games, polish.

947
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: I picked the Cowboys in that game. That's why they

948
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: play the games. They almost covered the sprep I know

949
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: you didn't care about I don't care about that one

950
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: high four or five one three. We wanna remind you

951
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: that big book. Kick Off five is presented by course Light.

952
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953
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: Let's go to Duke and Queen's he's up next? Hey Duke,

954
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: what's going on? Pal? Yo? Yo? What's going on? Guy? Yeah? Yeah,

955
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be calling more, you know around draft time? Cool,

956
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: really quick, I gotta I'm gonna leave you up, leave

957
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: you guys off with two questions because I'm not working.

958
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: I gotta go. Ye. My first question is this, Uh,

959
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: who is the like in terms of percentages, who is

960
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: the most likely pass pressure you guys see us adding

961
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: during free agency because there's a lot of be going

962
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: around right now. Uh, reporters this thing we're gonna get

963
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: to Marcus Laurence if you're gonna get before that. I

964
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: don't see any of that happening. So that's my first question,

965
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: the high percentage for the number one pass rush of

966
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: that we that you guys actually think we're gonna get into.

967
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: My second question is I see us moving around during

968
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: the draft with the eleven picks, and I just just

969
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: because there's so much a later picks, but I just

970
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: think we move up into the third round possibly. But

971
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: my question is if you guys also think we moved

972
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: around in the draft, where do you guys think we move?

973
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: Do you guys think we move back into the first round,

974
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: into the second round, into the third Those are my

975
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: two questions. Guys, I want to be calling it a

976
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 1: lot more. Hey, YouTube Path, thanks so well, And again,

977
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: Duke's whatever offseason guys. We have our in season calls

978
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: on our off season calls. Dukes on of our offseason guys.

979
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: It's funny. It really is like a fine line that

980
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: separate the two. We if some guys I call all

981
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: the time, like for our next call to the big

982
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: but some guys only do one or the other, which

983
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: which which I love real quick, I'm with you. If

984
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: the Giants do move up, I think they package some

985
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: picks to move up from the fourth round into the

986
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: third round. I think that's realistic if they see a

987
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: player there that they really want to go and get them.

988
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: I also wouldn't rule out if the right trade comes along. Look,

989
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: the Giants to have a lot of needs. Guys, they

990
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: have a lot of needs. They're sitting there at six,

991
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: and they get a great trade offer to move down

992
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: to like ten or eleven or something like that, and

993
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: they get extra two or or something or one next

994
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: year or how how whatever the deal is, I consider

995
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: that move down the second round, pick up an extra three.

996
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm good with that. If the right trade comes along

997
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: and you think there's you know, four or five guys

998
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: sitting there that you can't decide between trade down, why

999
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't you go for it and pick up extra picksie

1000
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: the later this year and next year. I'm pretty confident

1001
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: Gettleman is gonna make a deal to get another pick

1002
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: in the top hundred. I've said this a number times,

1003
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: and I think that's fair. Right now, he only has

1004
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: two in the top hundred. I don't think he's going

1005
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: to get a third one somewhere in the topic. I

1006
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: don't think you get another one in the top sixty.

1007
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: But I think you're gonna get one between sixty and

1008
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: a hundred. Someone wouldn't shock me at all. So that

1009
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: that's where we stand on the draft picks. As far

1010
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: as the free agents, the three four edge rushing outside linebackers,

1011
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 1: there's four who I think the Chiefs are gonna maintain,

1012
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: maybe nuts to let him get away. Uh, there's Darius

1013
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: Smith from from Baltimore. I don't know what his stature was,

1014
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: status is with them, whether or not they're gonna want

1015
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: to fork over some money to keep him about this clowney,

1016
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 1: that's your clown. And I think he's tagging. He's getting

1017
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be too price. Even if he's okay,

1018
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: he's getting tagged. And then let's Lance thinks that Ray

1019
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: who by the way, he has already said he's out

1020
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: of Denver. He's already made that clear to all the

1021
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: papers out there. He is out. Paul his productions, The

1022
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: question become he was drafted high. He's got a lot

1023
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: of talent if but I'm a little more sketchy on

1024
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: him because well, the one year he had eight sacks

1025
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: two years ago, I think. But I agree that. Remember now,

1026
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: when he came out, the Giants were four three, he

1027
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: was a tweener, and I said I wouldn't touch him

1028
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: with ten football correct different scheme. Now he does fit

1029
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: today's Giant scheme better than he did when he came

1030
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: out of college. The question is do you think there

1031
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: was a lot of untapped upside there? Lance thinks there is.

1032
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 1: He likes him. He thinks he'd be the top target

1033
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 1: for the Giants. If he is, then that must mean

1034
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: they see something in him that the Broncos were unable

1035
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: to tap into. I think that guy has has a

1036
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: possibility of being here. I don't. I don't know that

1037
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 1: he'd be at the top of my list. I probably

1038
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: would look at Smith from Jane Ray and this is

1039
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: some advanced number from Pro Football Focus had a hundred

1040
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: and forty nine pass rushing snaps this year. Okay, hundred

1041
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: forty nine. He had one sack because so many quarterback

1042
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: hits he had I'm not a fan zero nine Hurries.

1043
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: Didn't watch a lot of the Broncos, and based on

1044
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: what I saw in college, again different and I was

1045
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: looking for different things. If you're taking a flyer on him,

1046
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: and you don't have to pay m a lot to

1047
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: get in here to keep trying to based on that production,

1048
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: he's not going to be able to command a lot

1049
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: of money. And here's what I would think of it too.

1050
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: You have somebody else, though, is there's someone else on

1051
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: your list? I will give you one. I'll give you

1052
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: two other guys to think of. Okay, if the Broncos

1053
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: thought highly of him, would they have would they have

1054
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: drafted Bradley Chubb? A little bit of a different body type.

1055
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: But they're both edg rushers, they both said, both edg rushers,

1056
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: but different. Boy. Von Miller's there, we know it. You

1057
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: can't have three ederectors on the field at the same time.

1058
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: You only have two? Well edge rush is correct? Correct?

1059
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: Do you like to try to accumulate pass washers? Right?

1060
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,479
Speaker 1: I hear you. Look, I just don't think they really

1061
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: He's not a fit there. They know that, and he

1062
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: knows that, which is why he's already said he's out

1063
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: of the Broncos. He's done. He is going somewhere where

1064
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: he claims he's going to start, okay, which means he

1065
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: must be looking for a decent price tag, because you

1066
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: don't say that I'm going somewhere to start unless you're

1067
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: going to get some cas rookie here. He just said

1068
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: one sack his second year, he just had one sack.

1069
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: He had ten sacks in and a lot more snaps. Yeah,

1070
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: I mean I take a fly on him. I wouldn't

1071
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: pay him a lot of money. Well, he's Lances number

1072
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: one talking. I think Zadarius Smith for me, would be

1073
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: my top target because I think you could get him

1074
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: at a reasonable value. Is there any chance you can

1075
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: coax Brandon Graham out of Philadelphia? I don't think that's

1076
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: gonna happen. They'd be idiots to let him go. They

1077
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: they're paying a lot of guys in the defensive front though.

1078
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: They If I were them, they would keep Ram and

1079
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: let Michael Bennett walk. I think Bennett was just the

1080
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: one year. That's exactly what I would do. Yeah, now

1081
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm with him. I'm just doing names out There a

1082
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: chance Frank Clark leaves Seattle? I doubt it. I agree

1083
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: with you there too, Guys you want I gotta go,

1084
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: And I was just throwing options out to you. I haven't.

1085
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: I haven't done a full account thing of the free

1086
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: agent list, so I have not done that yet, So

1087
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you. I have like all these

1088
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: great guys in my back pocket. And if and I

1089
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: had to yell at somebody last week, I don't think

1090
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: I was on with you. But if anybody thinks the

1091
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys letting to Marcus Lawrence leave to go to the Giants,

1092
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: you're nuts. They have more cats, They've but twice as

1093
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: much casts based as the Giants him. Yeah, that's not happen.

1094
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: It inhappened. When I made my list, I pretty much

1095
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: looked at, Okay, guys who at least have a reasonable

1096
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: chance of being on the street. Who elst the list, well,

1097
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: I just gave him to it. Okay Smith, Clowney h Ford,

1098
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: who now I think is not going to go anywhere.

1099
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: Cloudey's not gonna go anywhere. The chances of those guys

1100
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: going as I got into the postseason was no. When

1101
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: I first made up my list at the end of

1102
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: the regular season, I said, maybe there's a chance these

1103
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: guys are out there, and I would want to at

1104
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: least talk to them. Lance is forcing me to put

1105
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: Shane Ray on the list. Okay, that's his number one guy.

1106
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: That's the guy he said. He said Shane Ray would

1107
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: be a guy I'd go hard after. I said, well,

1108
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: I'd go harder after za Darius Smith. But you know,

1109
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: let me that's just me. Is there a chance that's

1110
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: for all sugs finally retires? Maybe I didn't see. I

1111
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: didn't see any any signs from him that he was quitting.

1112
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: Isn't he like three five? He is? But did you

1113
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: watch him? No, he's still really good. He's still really

1114
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: I don't I don't see him giving up on plays.

1115
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: He doesn't quit. No, he's awesome. He hustles, his motor

1116
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: is still good. Darius Smith and four five pass rushing

1117
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: snaps this year is ten sacks and seventeen quarterback hits.

1118
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: That's pretty darn good. That's pretty darn good. He is

1119
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: the highest pass for US grade of anybody on the Raid.

1120
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: So that's the question is that they gonna let him go.

1121
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: There seems to be what I I and you you

1122
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: would have to pay him that that ain't gonna be achieved. No, No,

1123
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: he's he's gonna have to and and I think the

1124
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: Giants are in a position they can afford one real

1125
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: expensive guy, maybe two moderately expensive guys, and no more

1126
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: than that. I would not have a problem making him

1127
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: my expensive guy. If you want to pay an edge rusher,

1128
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: it's a premium position. I have no problem with that.

1129
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: Five on three. Want to remind you that Big Boo

1130
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: kick Off five is presented by cores Light download the

1131
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: Core's Light Awards aft to an amazing Giants prizes throughout

1132
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: the off season. Uh, let's go Dennis and Buffalo. We'll

1133
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: say Charlie for last, Dave. Oh, Charlie dropped. All right,

1134
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: I guess we have to go to Dennis. That's terrible.

1135
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: What's up Dennis? How are he calls every week? He'll

1136
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: be fine. What's out Dennis? Well? Good Dennis? How are

1137
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: you pal? Hi? Hello? Yes, yes we have Dennis. I

1138
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about the Buffalo University. Buffalo

1139
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: quarterback Tyraton Jackson. He's a big dude, is going to

1140
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: be out there at the Senior Bowl, and I was

1141
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: hoping you guys would take a good long look at

1142
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: he's he's yeah, I have not done any work on

1143
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: Tyree Jackson. I know he recently got the invitation. I

1144
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: believe he was. I think he's at the East West

1145
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: Shrine game, right, if I'm not mistaken. I had somebody

1146
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: tweet me Dennis earlier today and it wasn't you, it

1147
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: was somebody else I know. But I know he's playing

1148
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: in East West Ron. He just got invited to the

1149
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: Senior I have to think I'm right and look that up.

1150
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: Make sure he's the East West Ron. I think he is. Um.

1151
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: And somebody said Dennis that they will be interested in

1152
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: him as a developmental quarterback pick in the second round,

1153
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 1: and my answer is that no. And and Dennis, that's

1154
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: exactly what my answer was. I said, you don't pick

1155
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: a developmental quarterback in the second round. You pick a

1156
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: guy that's ready to play in the second round. So um,

1157
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: I think that's a little high. And again, I don't

1158
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: know anything about the kid. I gotta watch him. I

1159
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: gotta be honest with you. So he's got a cannon an, Okay,

1160
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: So well he's I think I'm pretty sure. Isn't he

1161
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: like six six to fifty? The dudes a moose. He's huge. Yeah,

1162
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: he said, thought they could Pepper type. He's here in Buffalo,

1163
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of football except for the pills.

1164
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: And so this this year with their team, he was unbelievable.

1165
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: I mean he just blored the teams, you know, and

1166
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: so I think he'd be a good development quarterback. Well

1167
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: how about how about you watching them and if he

1168
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: doesn't work out, you put him a tight end. Thank you,

1169
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: Dennis appreciate the call. Now, he he was not an

1170
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: E West Shrine. I guess I don't see him here. No,

1171
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: he's not. And he got invited to the Senior Bowl

1172
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: UM a couple of days ago in January, so you'll

1173
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: see him. Yeah, I look forward to watching him. I

1174
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: think he had ridiculous numbers in college. To be honest,

1175
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: I look at you. Look you're looking at the Mid

1176
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 1: American Conference, which the first thing you're gonna find out

1177
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: is level of comp. That's that's gonna be one of

1178
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: the things that immediately it's like a magnet when people

1179
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: start to look at him, his level of comp. Now,

1180
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: he is not a runner, so just know he's a pastor.

1181
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: He only ran fifty times for a hundred sixty yards

1182
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: last year. This guy is a passing quarterback. Completed only

1183
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: fifty of his passes, but he had three thousand yards,

1184
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 1: so that's just over two hundred a game, seven point

1185
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: seven yards per attempt, eight touchdowns of interceptions. The numbers

1186
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: actually don't jump off the page as much as I

1187
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: thought they would. They're fine, but they're not like, well,

1188
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: you have to understand the system that's gonna be part

1189
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: of the play again, and I don't know how. I

1190
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: don't know anything about Buffalo is a football team, but

1191
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: the system is one. Uh. The skill position players he

1192
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: played with is too. Uh. Did they have any kind

1193
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: of running games so that teams were off balance when

1194
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: they played him? Or could they stack up against him?

1195
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: These are all things you've got to figure out when

1196
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: you start looking at him. So that's why it's difficult

1197
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: and and exactly why scouts sometimes we'll see a guy

1198
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: three times during the course of the season. They won't

1199
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: just take one look at him. Sometimes they'll see a

1200
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: guy three different times because you gotta take all this

1201
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: stuff into account. To five on three, final call of

1202
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: the show, I try I'm not gonna play the open

1203
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: because we gotta do this pretty quick. What's up, chuckles, Hey,

1204
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: that's no problem. Hey, well about Belichick. The reason why

1205
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: they do pretty well with drafting people because they always

1206
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: have eleven or twelve draft picks, four or five of them.

1207
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: They you know, they hit on two or three. You know.

1208
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: That's because he discards guys quickly and turns them into picks.

1209
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: Well and he and he also let's free agents walk

1210
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: and gets the I mean, the Patriots lead the league

1211
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: in compensatory draft picks every single season. And oh, by

1212
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: the way, did we forget to mention because they go

1213
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: to the playoffs every year out of that division? Teams

1214
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: teams you're not better at all that well, teams who

1215
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: try to compete for free agents are at a disadvantage because, oh,

1216
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: you want to go to the playoffs, Yeah, we'll go

1217
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: to the Patriots. I mean, come on, yeah yeah. And

1218
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: it's just you know, I mean, how long would Eric

1219
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: Flowers have lasted on Belichick week week week? And that's

1220
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: not long you would lasted on anyway. The thing is,

1221
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: I looked at the Giant season and this, if our

1222
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: defense the first seven eight games played the way they

1223
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: did the last eight games, we would have been in

1224
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And if our offense played the way they

1225
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: did the last eight games instead of the first eight games.

1226
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: You know, we weren't in sync. You know, the defense

1227
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: played pretty well those first Charlie, look at the personnel. Okay,

1228
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: hold on a second now, second half defense, injuries, trades

1229
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: of snacks, trades of Eli Apple, big difference in personnel offense,

1230
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,959
Speaker 1: big difference in personnel on the offensive line. First half,

1231
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: second half. So the starting lineups were clearly at polar

1232
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: opposites in both cases. And and that's a big the

1233
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: production on the defense to to to get rid of

1234
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: Harris and to get rid of Apples. I also think

1235
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: I also think part of the deal is too I

1236
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: think teams adjust. I think the first eight games the year,

1237
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, people didn't know what the Giants were doing

1238
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: on defense. It was a new coordinator with a with

1239
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,919
Speaker 1: a new group of players. And then once teams see

1240
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: what you're trying to do, they figure out ways to

1241
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: beat it. So I don't think it's it's it's easy

1242
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,919
Speaker 1: to say, you know, transplant this year and this there,

1243
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get a get a really good team,

1244
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: and teams go. Every team goes through ebbs and flows

1245
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: during the season. Look at the Colts they started one

1246
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: in five, the Cowboys started three and five. Uh, you

1247
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: know these teams, they go through ebbs and flows, and

1248
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: just because you play well at certain points doesn't mean

1249
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: you can just you know, transplant that from one half

1250
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: to the other. Doesn't work that way. And I think,

1251
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: to be fair at Gerarlie the Giants coaching staff, when

1252
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: they made their mid season adjustments, it turned out that

1253
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: the offense and the second half of the season had

1254
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: more talent on their side of the ball than the

1255
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: Giants defense did. So their adjustments were not helping the

1256
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: defense very much because they just didn't have the weapons

1257
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: correct correct. Yeah, I mean definitely with Collins out in

1258
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: Ogal three out that didn't help that that, that is

1259
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: for sure. And and the thing was Sean Yeah, he well,

1260
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: I think you know you said he only had a

1261
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: hundred forty nine STAPs. That's why he wants to get

1262
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: out of hundred forty nine pass rushing snaps. That's not

1263
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: every snap that's pass rushing stops. Yeah, he's he's a

1264
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: very disgruntled player though, who made it clear that he's

1265
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: out of there. I'm sure once he saw Bradley Chubb

1266
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Speaker 1: get drafted, he's like I see the writing on the world.

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Speaker 1: They don't want me anymore. Well, the thing is, and

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01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: you said two thousand sixteen he had ten facks, So

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Speaker 1: the guy's got some talent. And if he just felt

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01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: like he wasn't playing enough, he wasn't being used enough,

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01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: and they you know, he's got a chip on his

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01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: shoulder and it might be a good player to bring

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01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,959
Speaker 1: over and see what he's gonna do with a new team.

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01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll tell you, Charlie. I told it to Lance.

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Speaker 1: If you want to, if you want to tell you

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Speaker 1: a personnel guys to go investigate him. I'd never have

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01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: a problem with that. Due diligence is good. But be

1278
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: be wary of one thing. If a guy has less

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01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: of a motor because his attitude is as such that

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01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,439
Speaker 1: they're not using me really well, and I'm just gonna

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01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: kind of all into the corner and suck my thumb

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01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: and be unhappy about it. That's not too good either.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like my daughter, Well, how does? And would you

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01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: want her on your roster? He's not my family roster.

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01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: I get that, but you don't want a choice about family. Um.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't give him back for that either. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. I mean,

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01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: you want a guy, if he's disgruntled and unhappy about

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01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: not being used enough, you wanted to light a fire

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01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: under his own button, get out there and kick kicked tail.

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Speaker 1: His daughter is a lovely person. No insult. I'm not

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Speaker 1: even good goody. I'll give you my picks. I think

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Speaker 1: go ahead. I think Kansas City's gonna beat the Patch,

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01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: and I think the Rams are gonna be Saints because

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01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: the Saints haven't been putting up points. They haven't, okay,

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01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: you know. And I just think the Rams offensive line

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01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: is gonna win the game for him again. And I

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01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: think the Patch just had a good game and they're

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01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: not going to have as good a game as they

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Speaker 1: had against Sandy A. I'm not Sandy l A charges

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01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: because the charge is always choked anyway. So I just

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01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: think Andy Reid's gonna get over the hump. He's going

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01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl and it's gonna be l A.

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01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the young quarterbacks facing off each other,

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01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: and I think will be exciting games. Thank you, Charlie.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Charlie, Okay. The good news is, no matter

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Speaker 1: who makes the super Bowl. It's gonna be a great

1308
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: match up. I mean, four playing this weekend. We agree,

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Speaker 1: So that's cool. I like that. That's great. You've got

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Speaker 1: four explosive offenses, really good quarterbacks, really good coaches, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be fun no matter who get out.

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01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna win, Ram Saints, and I

1313
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: gotta think about that more. But I do think that

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Speaker 1: Che's gonna get over the top. Thank you, all right,

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Speaker 1: good seeing John Tomorrow It's me and Lance. We'll have

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Speaker 1: Sam Monster for Pro Football Focus. Join us the top

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Speaker 1: of the show. Yeah, oh that's good. Well, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to. I was afraid if I put you on

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01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: Profooball Focus that just started yelling at them about their grades. No,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I like saying, oh he loves Sam.

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01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: I know, put my big Sam you. Also, you also

1322
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: get to talk to Sam probably at the Combines. Yes,

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01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: we will do that. Absolutely. We'll be back at the

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Speaker 1: Combine this year, folks. And yes, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: we will be at the Senior Bowl next week. Not

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01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: the show here will Paul. Lance will be holding down

1327
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: the forth here and I'll give you your calling updates

1328
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: from the Senior Bowl, try to identify the next Will Hernandez.

1329
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: And by the way, Josh Allen's out there too, so

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01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: that'll be uh, that'll be fun. The best group at

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01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: this game is actually the offensive and defensive line, so

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Speaker 1: I'll be watching those groups very very closely as the

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Speaker 1: Giant's head into the two thousand nineteen NFL drafts. I'll

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Speaker 1: try to get you some nuggets from mobile next week

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Speaker 1: for Paul to Tino, I'm John Schmulk. That's big book

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Speaker 1: kick off level. See you tomorrow on Giants dot Com. Audios, everybody,