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Speaker 1: From House to abords dot Com. Hey, Aaron, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. This is Kristen and this is Molly, So Molly.

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Speaker 1: There has been a lot in the news recently over

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Speaker 1: this whole issue of healthcare reform accession, essentially whether or

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Speaker 1: not we are going to end up with some kind

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Speaker 1: of publicly funded healthcare in the United States, And in

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Speaker 1: the past week or so, the debate over this has

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Speaker 1: really focused on the issue of abortion because the House

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Speaker 1: Energy and Commerce Committee passed an amendment recently that requires

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Speaker 1: whatever healthcare reform bill ends up being passed to offer

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Speaker 1: at least one plan that will cover abortion and in

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Speaker 1: one plan that does not. Okay, So abortion opponents are

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Speaker 1: quote unquote taxpayer funded abortion and whether or not, you know,

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Speaker 1: that all these women are just going to start going

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Speaker 1: be the moral downfall of the US. It's been, it's

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Speaker 1: been a pretty pretty heated debate. Man, that that synopsis

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Speaker 1: this debate. Yeah, there's been. There's been a lot of

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Speaker 1: the U S Secretary of Health and Human Services. She

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Speaker 1: pointed out that right now, the federal employee health benefits,

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Speaker 1: which are you know, federal employees get, such as congress

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Speaker 1: men and women, Uh, the the health coverage they get

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Speaker 1: covers abortion services only in cases of rape, incest, and

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Speaker 1: endangerment to the mother's life. And a lot of times

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Speaker 1: private healthcare plans, private insurance plans, i should say, do

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Speaker 1: not fully cover abortion services as well. And since there's

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Speaker 1: not a lot of private coverage for um abortion services,

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Speaker 1: that leaves places like Planned Parenthood and other public clinics

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Speaker 1: reproductive healthcare. And this is where I can chime in

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Speaker 1: and help you, Christian, because I recently wrote an article

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Speaker 1: about how planned Parenthood works. Yeah, they planned parenthood has

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Speaker 1: fayer funded abortion because you know, people are saying that

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Speaker 1: planned parenthood is going to get all this money from

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Speaker 1: you know, all these taxpayer dollars um. But from the

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Speaker 1: from your article, I learned that the government already funds

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Speaker 1: a lot of planned parenthood. So I thought it would

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Speaker 1: be a good time to really talk about what planned

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Speaker 1: parenthood does and whether or not it is just you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, other serve us is that they provide. So

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Speaker 1: let's dive in, let's get to it. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of preconceptions people bring to

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Speaker 1: this podcast when they listen to it. I bet there's

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Speaker 1: some people out there who think that planned parenthood is

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Speaker 1: the greatest thing since sliced bread, and I bet there

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Speaker 1: are people out there who think it's a baby killing

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Speaker 1: machine for lack of a better term. But the fact

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Speaker 1: of the matter is that one in four American women

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Speaker 1: It's pretty staggering, right, But that does not mean that

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Speaker 1: one in four American women has used planned Parenthood services

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Speaker 1: to get an abortion, Oh, of course not. So let's

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Speaker 1: talk about all the services that they provide at their

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Speaker 1: approximately eight sixty health centers across the country. Start off

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Speaker 1: with Molly, about the thirty eight percent of Planned parenthoods

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Speaker 1: but it's not just contraception. If you, you know, have

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Speaker 1: and treating at Plant Parenthood. In two thousand six, that

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Speaker 1: addition to that, you have cancer screens and preventions, uh

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Speaker 1: rating period. Planned Parenthood also acts as an advocate and

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Speaker 1: lobbyists for these reproductive issues UM, such as defending a

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Speaker 1: Margaret's Singer is the founder of Planned Parenthood, and basically

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Speaker 1: having children that they couldn't afford. And so she championed

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