Speaker 1: So we've been hitting what's been going on with the
Speaker 1: FBI raid pretty hard on the show. But I don't
Speaker 1: know about you, guys, I'm exhausted by politics. The world
Speaker 1: feels heavy. There's so much going on, and it's just
Speaker 1: it's really depressing, to be honest. So we're gonna switch
Speaker 1: it up a little bit today. We'll we'll still get
Speaker 1: into the important stuff. We'll still get into some of
Speaker 1: the political things going on in the country, but I
Speaker 1: also just want to talk to a friend who you
Speaker 1: guys know at home, who has been a friend of
Speaker 1: mine who have gotten to know through my work at Fox,
Speaker 1: the actor Dean Kane. He's an awesome guy, a really
Speaker 1: really nice guy, smart guy. So we're gonna talk to
Speaker 1: him about his life. He's an incredibly successful actor. He's
Speaker 1: been in you know, billion movies, a ton of TV shows.
Speaker 1: He's best known for his work as Superman, but he's
Speaker 1: done so much more than that, and he also has
Speaker 1: a really interesting life. He played football before, he had
Speaker 1: a brief stint in the NFL, so we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about that. He also went to high school with Charlie
Speaker 1: Sheen and Rob Low, so we're gonna talk about his life,
Speaker 1: and you know, get into some of the political stuff
Speaker 1: as well, but you know, just have a little laugh,
Speaker 1: talk to a friend, and I hope you guys enjoy
Speaker 1: this conversation with my friend Dean Kane. So, first of all,
Speaker 1: Dean Kine, it's nice to have you on the show,
Speaker 1: my friend. I haven't talked to you in a while.
Speaker 1: I know, well, I you're in You're in Florida, and
Speaker 1: I'm in California, and both of us are avoiding New York. So, uh,
Speaker 1: I don't see you much at out in New York
Speaker 1: these days because I'm not there very often. And uh,
Speaker 1: I actually spend more time in Florida, so I probably
Speaker 1: could have run into you there. Geez. Yeah, let me
Speaker 1: know next time you're down. I just spent six days
Speaker 1: in New York and it honestly feels like they just
Speaker 1: let out in a sane asylum. You have like all
Speaker 1: of these crazy people walking around. It's it's it's insane.
Speaker 1: I have no desire to be there right now, and
Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends who were there, but
Speaker 1: I just, holy smokes, it's just it's it's insanity. What's
Speaker 1: California like right now? You know, California it's it's such
Speaker 1: a huge state. So, I mean, I live in Malibu.
Speaker 1: Malib was great. There's been a couple of uh, um,
Speaker 1: it's sort of like a you know, uh flash mob
Speaker 1: kind of robberies that have taken place. Apparently I heard this.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know anything about it, but I
Speaker 1: heard this from my sister and some other folks here.
Speaker 1: So there's been a couple of instances like that that
Speaker 1: have taken place. Um, but you hear about it all
Speaker 1: the time in Los Angeles itself, all kinds of crazy
Speaker 1: stuff going on. You know, I'm a I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a sworn sheriff's deputy and a reserve police officer, and
Speaker 1: I I can't, for the life of me understand how
Speaker 1: these things are allowed to happen, continually happening and and
Speaker 1: not being prosecuted by by you know, people like George
Speaker 1: Gascon here in Los Angeles. It's just insane. Well, and
Speaker 1: you were sworn in as a reserve officer, as you
Speaker 1: just mentioned, uh in two thousand and eighteen. What what
Speaker 1: spurred that decision to to do that? Well, they have
Speaker 1: been this huge sort of First of all, I have
Speaker 1: great respect for the military law enforcement and first responders
Speaker 1: always have. Um. My grandfather was was in the commander
Speaker 1: of the Navy. My uncle was lieutenant colonel in the
Speaker 1: Air Force. He flew at fifteens um. And and then
Speaker 1: I just had a lot of great friends. Who are
Speaker 1: you know, Navy seals and and special forces guys, and
Speaker 1: I I just have such respect for them. Um. And
Speaker 1: then the sort of the rhetoric had gone into this
Speaker 1: weird place of being anti police and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: occasionally there's a bad apple here or there, they should
Speaker 1: be removed from the force. I'm with that. We all
Speaker 1: know some police officers. You're like, that guy shouldn't be
Speaker 1: or that girl shouldn't have a badge and a gun. Um.
Speaker 1: But but by and large they're fantastic people. In the
Speaker 1: way they're being vilified, I figured, you know what, instead
Speaker 1: of just talking about my support for them, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show up and I'm gonna put on the
Speaker 1: badge and and the gun and and and stand there
Speaker 1: with my you know, brothers and sisters in blue. And
Speaker 1: I've been doing it for six years now. You know what,
Speaker 1: It's been great fun. Um, it's been wonderful to to
Speaker 1: to see what kind of people you know who are
Speaker 1: police officers, and they're all people, I mean, to a
Speaker 1: person that I know within my two departments, they're fantastic people. Um,
Speaker 1: and your your everyday fantastic folks who who are who
Speaker 1: are trained to be in these horrible situations and have
Speaker 1: to react. A couple of my good friends and fellow
Speaker 1: officers up in Idaho got shot you know last year, Um, um,
Speaker 1: and they they both survived and and uh, they're they're
Speaker 1: doing great. But one of them was you know, worked
Speaker 1: with me on the on the on the range and
Speaker 1: was our range officer, and um, he was a great
Speaker 1: shot too. It's a good thing. Probably saved his life. Um,
Speaker 1: but you know, he got shot in the face and
Speaker 1: he didn't even look any worse for it though he's
Speaker 1: he's still handsome, so but he's fully recovered. But I mean,
Speaker 1: there's the kind of people that are just your friends
Speaker 1: and they're regular everyday folks who are putting these situations
Speaker 1: where they have to react right now or or they
Speaker 1: or they die or someone else dies. So it's they're
Speaker 1: just they're just great people. Well, it's the thing I
Speaker 1: think everyone you know, everyone watches these videos and stuff
Speaker 1: unfold and they're like, oh, why didn't they just do?
Speaker 1: But like when you're in that situation, I mean you
Speaker 1: maybe you've been in this situation, but I've not. And
Speaker 1: you know this sort of like split second decision. How
Speaker 1: do you save your life? How do you save you know?
Speaker 1: I mean, like you don't have that kind of time
Speaker 1: to be sort of thinking through these scenarios. It's like
Speaker 1: you've just gotta you know what I mean, It's it's crazy.
Speaker 1: You go right to your training, and your training is
Speaker 1: always shoot center mass and shoot to stop the threat. Um.
Speaker 1: It's not shoot to kill, it's shoot to stop the threat.
Speaker 1: When they stop the threat, they're not shooting anymore. Um.
Speaker 1: But you know, you you have to react in a
Speaker 1: in a split second. I mean even President Biden was
Speaker 1: like shoot them in the leg. You know how difficult.
Speaker 1: You know. Also, there's a thing of the fhemeral artery.
Speaker 1: If you shoot that, they're gonna die anyway. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: you shoot somebody hits a bone, it's gonna break the bone.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's awful things that happened with gunshots and
Speaker 1: and awful, but you know we're taught and trained to
Speaker 1: shoot center mass to stop the threat. That's how it
Speaker 1: works because it's it's hard anybody who doesn't shoot you
Speaker 1: try to hit a moving target. You know, it's very
Speaker 1: difficult to do. Most I think most gunfights are like
Speaker 1: within like four ft and everything is the shots or mrs.
Speaker 1: You know, it says some kind of crazy statistic like
Speaker 1: that because you know, everybody's trying to get out of
Speaker 1: the way and it's hard to hit him moving target.
Speaker 1: People don't believe me. Get out on the range and
Speaker 1: and take a shot, take a few shots, and see
Speaker 1: see what you do. Well. Now, so you know, Joe
Speaker 1: Biden's never shot a gun because I I I'm like
Speaker 1: new to this, right, So I'm getting a gun for
Speaker 1: the first time. I've been I've taken my concealed carry
Speaker 1: class I have. I've been training with an instructor because
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a big responsibility, you know, and
Speaker 1: I want to know what I'm doing before I bring
Speaker 1: a gun home and have it in my home and
Speaker 1: and have that kind of responsibility. So like that's like
Speaker 1: the first thing, one of the first things you're taught
Speaker 1: is you shoot center mass. And so it's very clear,
Speaker 1: like clearly he's never had held a gun. Right, Like
Speaker 1: he has no idea what he's talking about. Like I know,
Speaker 1: I know this, and I'm not even trained like you
Speaker 1: you know, like I've I've taken a handful of classes
Speaker 1: at at best, you know, right, But I mean, like
Speaker 1: he says things so inane, like you know, he told
Speaker 1: I told Jill, you know, just you hears something going
Speaker 1: on in the backyard, go out there with a double
Speaker 1: barrel shotgun and fire off a couple of rounds. And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, literally that's illegal. Hey, you're out
Speaker 1: of you have no more shells in your double barrel
Speaker 1: shotgun and you gotta reload. And what are you shooting at?
Speaker 1: You know, you you have to see your target before
Speaker 1: you shoot, and also what's beyond your target? I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so many things. I was like, what you can't
Speaker 1: there's a hysterical um that little that news that that
Speaker 1: video where Darren Chris sings the you know by a shotgun.
Speaker 1: It's it's a hysterical and people haven't seen it. Look
Speaker 1: it up. It is so funny. But it's clear that
Speaker 1: he has no business. Um, he doesn't understand guns or
Speaker 1: gun laws or anything, so he really has no business
Speaker 1: talking about him. It drives me bananas. But it's that
Speaker 1: kind of the problem with all these guys. You've got
Speaker 1: all these politicians who are writing policies, who are you know,
Speaker 1: coming up with legislation that either they're completely unfamiliar with,
Speaker 1: you know, or or that just doesn't impact them in
Speaker 1: any way whatsoever a hundred percent. And that's what makes
Speaker 1: me crazy when I see people talking about you see
Speaker 1: Thomas Massey, you know, and they're talking talking about laughing
Speaker 1: at one of some of these things people are talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, um about you know, a bump stock or whatever.
Speaker 1: Bump stock by the way, anybody who knows anything bump
Speaker 1: stock is the most ridiculous. It's just stupid. And so
Speaker 1: how that became political bump stock? Anybody's uosing a bump stock.
Speaker 1: You can't hit hit it can't hit anything, first of all,
Speaker 1: because you don't want to shoot automatically, you know, you
Speaker 1: don't want to go fully auto any anyways. But I
Speaker 1: don't want to get into this specificity of that, but
Speaker 1: it's clear they don't know what they're talking about, and
Speaker 1: it's it's it's ridiculous, you know, go full semi auto. Well,
Speaker 1: full semi auto doesn't exist. You're, oh, every gun is
Speaker 1: semi automatic. Um, but it's clear that they don't know
Speaker 1: what they're talking about when they're doing talking about these
Speaker 1: things and making policy and law and that that is
Speaker 1: it's insanity, it's it should never be happening. Well, I
Speaker 1: think it's probably why everything's, you know, such a mess.
Speaker 1: Among you know, a list of other things, quick break
Speaker 1: more with Dean Kine. You know what I was thinking
Speaker 1: about the other day, Uh, and before you know, knowing
Speaker 1: that I was going to interview at you today and
Speaker 1: then also had this like ran into my head the
Speaker 1: other day about the New Year's Eve special. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we did. How much fun was that? I had the
Speaker 1: best time. I had an absolute blast. It was it
Speaker 1: was dang cold, but it was so cold. I think
Speaker 1: it was the coldest on record for New Year's Eve
Speaker 1: in in in Central Park and we were not far
Speaker 1: from there, So yeah, that was. I had a blast though.
Speaker 1: That was that was great fun. And uh, heck I
Speaker 1: do that again. And we were troopers too. We didn't complain.
Speaker 1: We kept it fun. I remember I texted my parents.
Speaker 1: I think ed Henry complained a little. I think he was,
Speaker 1: you know, he was he was crying a little bit.
Speaker 1: He was we we we were cool. We didn't. I
Speaker 1: texted my parents afterwards, and I think I could not
Speaker 1: hit the right buttons on my phone. I think my
Speaker 1: fingers I'm not even kidding, you know, Like it was
Speaker 1: like I was communicating, I was trying to like hit
Speaker 1: the right buttons, and my fingers were just so cold.
Speaker 1: I could not. It was like it was like I
Speaker 1: didn't I had no control over them. It was the
Speaker 1: most bizarre thing. That's how my tongue was starting to
Speaker 1: get I was starting to freeze, and so my lips
Speaker 1: are starting to freeze, and I'll started starting to mispronounced words,
Speaker 1: just the same as my same as the texting. I
Speaker 1: was a little bit. It was it was freaking cold,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't believe how many people were out there
Speaker 1: still in that weather. Incredible. You know. I was thinking,
Speaker 1: I told a friend this. I don't know why this
Speaker 1: I could popp to my but remember when we interviewed
Speaker 1: the naked cowboy. Yeah, so I had asked him. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, like, what does your mom think of this?
Speaker 1: And he was like she's dead and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh god, just that, yeah, like Nearsy's supposed to be fun,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I just killed like you can't.
Speaker 1: There's no way you can know that. There's no way.
Speaker 1: And it's a fair question because I would have wanted
Speaker 1: to him, and I can't console him because the dude's naked,
Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm like, I'm not going to give
Speaker 1: that this guy hug. So I was just like, I know,
Speaker 1: I just made this so awkward and it's supposed to
Speaker 1: be fun. It's like, I don't know what to do
Speaker 1: with this guy. I'm so sorry. TV. That is the
Speaker 1: fun of live TV. That's hysterical. I know. I was
Speaker 1: like this, I don't know why this just popped in
Speaker 1: my head. The other day, I was talking to a
Speaker 1: friend about something and it just like I kind of
Speaker 1: giggled myself because I like, you know, just popped in
Speaker 1: my head, and I was like, I felt so bad.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I often think about the naked cowboy myself. Yes, that's
Speaker 1: it's wrong. That is exactly if so. I was thinking
Speaker 1: about him, so the one who got away, you know, like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, so I was looking at you know, because
Speaker 1: obviously I know you, but I didn't know, so I
Speaker 1: knew you played football at Princeton, but I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that you brew briefly in the NFL for the Buffalo Bills,
Speaker 1: but then you hurt yournee. Did you ever? Like, what
Speaker 1: do you think do you think you would have gotten
Speaker 1: into acting if the NFL thing had worked out? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I would have eventually got into acting, but
Speaker 1: it would have been, you know, after after football was over.
Speaker 1: I think that for sure would have happened, only because
Speaker 1: I grew up in it. I grew up around it.
Speaker 1: I grew up you know, my dad's a director. I
Speaker 1: grew up with Roblow, Charlie Sheen, Amelia Estevez, Holly Robinson,
Speaker 1: all these sorts of people who Sean Penn, Chris Penn,
Speaker 1: all these guys who became actors, guys and girls who
Speaker 1: got into that world because our parents were involved in
Speaker 1: that industry. And um, I also just noticed what my
Speaker 1: friends were doing, Like at Princeton, they'd go and work
Speaker 1: on Wall Street for internships in the summertime, and uh,
Speaker 1: I would go on my dad's sets, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, these sets are a hell of
Speaker 1: a lot more fun than than eighty hours in a
Speaker 1: in a suit in New York City in the UH
Speaker 1: in the dead of summer. No way, So, um, I said,
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's. I liked the idea of having
Speaker 1: project by project, you know, life's as I preferred doing
Speaker 1: my like independent work at Princeton. I liked writing my
Speaker 1: big papers and doing things like that more than going
Speaker 1: to class every day. So it really was more in
Speaker 1: the world that I wanted to be. Um the creative
Speaker 1: world as well. So I knew by the time I
Speaker 1: was a junior that there's no way I was gonna
Speaker 1: be an investment banker on Wall Street and I was
Speaker 1: gonna work in the film industry in some which some
Speaker 1: way shape its form. My idea was to start as
Speaker 1: a writer, and I did start as a writer. Um,
Speaker 1: but what my idea was that would be working on
Speaker 1: my writing at night and then playing football during the day.
Speaker 1: And you know that was keep my mind working and
Speaker 1: as I was bashing my head against other people's heads. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sounds a little contradictory. I want that's my life. That
Speaker 1: is absolutely my life. So that's that's that's what I
Speaker 1: thought i'd be doing. And and I'm and I've been blessed,
Speaker 1: so blessed and lucky to be able to be doing
Speaker 1: that for so many years. I don't want to say
Speaker 1: how many, but it's been a long time. And I
Speaker 1: thowt you went to high school with Charlie Chen and
Speaker 1: Rob blow elementary school? Oh really, I mean I played,
Speaker 1: you know, Charlie and I were in baseball teams forever together. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, all over the place. I mean Rob didn't
Speaker 1: really participate in sports. He wasn't a sportster. The girls
Speaker 1: love Rob like he didn't want to hurt the faith.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to hurt face, not the faith. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, you know he liked his his his brother
Speaker 1: Chad is a it was a better athlete than than Rob.
Speaker 1: But you know, it was such a small little area
Speaker 1: growing up that we all knew each other so well. So,
Speaker 1: I mean Maliwood now only has like thirteen thousand people
Speaker 1: in it. People don't realize that there's not a whole
Speaker 1: lot of folks out here. Do you want to stay
Speaker 1: in touch? Oh yeah, it's family. If I see any
Speaker 1: of them, it's it's family right away. Even though you know, look,
Speaker 1: some guys have made some poor choices and done some
Speaker 1: weird things, and um, but they're still family, like Sean
Speaker 1: Penn and I like our parents are best friends. I
Speaker 1: see Sean, it's his family. I couldn't disagree with him
Speaker 1: more politically on most everything. Um but I still love
Speaker 1: the guy. Do you learn who your friends are in
Speaker 1: Hollywood when you come out and support a President Trump.
Speaker 1: I realized that people have this. President Trump broke a
Speaker 1: lot of people. They have such as some people just
Speaker 1: have such a clear total dislike for him that they
Speaker 1: are blinded to anything else. They can't talk policy, they
Speaker 1: can't do anything. Um but I'd love to get him
Speaker 1: involved in a conversation. Let's have this, Let's have a discussion.
Speaker 1: What don't you like? I can't stand him. He's still rude,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. What about his policies? Well what did
Speaker 1: I get? Nothing? So that's what I get into. It
Speaker 1: was like, look, you don't have to like the guy.
Speaker 1: I don't. That's up to you. Some people don't like me,
Speaker 1: maybe I don't like you. But policy is what what
Speaker 1: matters to you, know when a politician steps out there,
Speaker 1: and the policies that President Trump had in place where
Speaker 1: a thousand times better, uh than the policies that this
Speaker 1: current administration has and they want to, I want to
Speaker 1: discuss policy. They don't really. Hollywood also is as a
Speaker 1: as a land of cowards. They would never say, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I I disagree with this, blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: They don't really say that. They they they would. They
Speaker 1: kind of smile to your face and then stab you
Speaker 1: in the back as you walk away. Well did you
Speaker 1: see that? Uh this Sydney Sweeney. Uh, she's in Euphoria,
Speaker 1: the show you I've never watched it, but it's you know, popular.
Speaker 1: But apparently now she's like maybe getting canceled because she
Speaker 1: threw apart. Did you see this? Like through a party
Speaker 1: for her mom and apparently people were wearing like make
Speaker 1: sixty Great Again hats and then there was some guy
Speaker 1: in a you know, a pro you know, please something
Speaker 1: like that. And then now she's there's like I'm even
Speaker 1: like looking at the news articles right now. It's insane.
Speaker 1: It's absolute madness. God bless her and her family. Happy
Speaker 1: birthday to her mom. And I, you know me, I
Speaker 1: don't just again, the idea that you know, somebody wears
Speaker 1: a back the blue shirt and that's offensive is totally insane.
Speaker 1: I and I go so far as to strap on
Speaker 1: a badge and a gun. So I go the exact opposite.
Speaker 1: I mean, I go full blue. So I think that's
Speaker 1: just madness. And and look, city Sweeney's four years old.
Speaker 1: She's drop dead gorgeous. Um, and she's on a show.
Speaker 1: I haven't watched it either because I don't watch many shows.
Speaker 1: But bless her, and she'll hopefully just give him all
Speaker 1: the finger and and and carry on with what she's doing.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen this stuff. I should look it up.
Speaker 1: But the idea of canceling someone because they support law enforcement,
Speaker 1: or because they support President Trump, or even even that
Speaker 1: that that shout out to President Trump, or even you know,
Speaker 1: I mean somebody else, who is it? It's it's a
Speaker 1: Nick Cercy, a buddy of mine, real good buddy of mine.
Speaker 1: And um, an outspoken conservative is hysterical. I think, what
Speaker 1: do you have had? Make make Americans smart again? I
Speaker 1: think that's what that was. Um. But listen, I have listen.
Speaker 1: I I've met with President Trump in the Oval Office.
Speaker 1: I've got one of his forty five hats. That thing
Speaker 1: is awesome. I love it, um, and I think it
Speaker 1: says make American great again. UM, I don't wear it out. There, Um,
Speaker 1: just because I don't like to wear red hats, but
Speaker 1: just because I wear a black hats, that's what I
Speaker 1: like to wear. Um. Red's not your color, then is
Speaker 1: that your it's It has nothing to do with the implication.
Speaker 1: But red is not my color. Um. Orange. I'd wear
Speaker 1: orange only because orange and black with the Princeton Tigers
Speaker 1: and I can do that. Um. But but that's about it. Um.
Speaker 1: And I wear purple sometimes now because my son goes
Speaker 1: to the school high Point University and their purple. Um,
Speaker 1: but not Red's not my color. But it has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with the the idea that it's a that
Speaker 1: make American grade again. Had and Sydney Sweeney, good for her.
Speaker 1: Stand strong, um and just don't listen to all that
Speaker 1: stupid noise. Continue just being an actor and do your finger.
Speaker 1: And also, I don't think these people understand if you
Speaker 1: just ignore it, it's gonna go away. Yeah, and they'll
Speaker 1: go find another target. It's when they keep apologizing and
Speaker 1: you know they've been, they've been the knee. That's when
Speaker 1: you get canceled. If you're just like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever was my mom's birthday, I move on, then people
Speaker 1: will move on. Yep, she should they will. I did
Speaker 1: notice that, um, because I I was targeted with a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff early on. And you know you can't.
Speaker 1: I'll never apologize for for something unless I've you know,
Speaker 1: made a legitimate mistake, you know, Um, But then I
Speaker 1: would tell I mean I was wrong about that. This
Speaker 1: is how it should be. But bowing, bending the knee
Speaker 1: and bowing to the mob is an absolute uh. It's
Speaker 1: it's a disaster for anybody. And I've seen it happen
Speaker 1: to people who I respect too, And I'm like, oh man,
Speaker 1: why did you do that? You know, it doesn't It
Speaker 1: doesn't feel any better now, does it. And now, um,
Speaker 1: you're you're getting hit from both sides. So it's just
Speaker 1: screw that holds wrong with your beliefs. Let it go
Speaker 1: and move on. You're right, this is this thing about
Speaker 1: her will probably go away and within two weeks. Why
Speaker 1: do you think so many people bend the knee? I
Speaker 1: think they just want to be accepted, you know, they
Speaker 1: don't want to have that cancel culture mob like staring
Speaker 1: at them, yelling at them. You feel attacked and you
Speaker 1: just want to go look, no, no, everything's cool, We're
Speaker 1: I'm okay. You know, don't don't turn on me. I
Speaker 1: was just saying this, and I think they're just scared.
Speaker 1: I think they're just scared, you know, in this this
Speaker 1: world where if you say one wrong thing or do
Speaker 1: one wrong I mean even in the NFL, if you
Speaker 1: just have an accusation without anything anything, um, without being
Speaker 1: charged with a crime. If you have an accusation, now
Speaker 1: it's enough to get people, you know, tossed off the
Speaker 1: teams and things like that, which I think is insane.
Speaker 1: It's it's so I think people just don't want to
Speaker 1: get canceled, and they're scared, so they just try and no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I I'm a supporter of this or that or whatever, um,
Speaker 1: And it's crazy. You can't it. It doesn't work. It
Speaker 1: just doesn't work. Never bow to the outrage mob. Quick
Speaker 1: commercial breakback with Dean Kine on the other side, you
Speaker 1: had mentioned your son. I you guys have a really
Speaker 1: special bond. I've seen you guys together. There's clearly you know,
Speaker 1: so much love there. How how hard was it? How
Speaker 1: hard has it been to to be a single father?
Speaker 1: So he is my favorite person on the planet. I
Speaker 1: love that kid so much. He is so cool, so
Speaker 1: different than me too, that which is so funny. You
Speaker 1: know a lot of people I got you want your debt,
Speaker 1: your son to be a little mini many You're like,
Speaker 1: my son is not. He is his own person. But UM,
Speaker 1: I raised him. UM. I thought a nasty custody battle
Speaker 1: when he was born, when he was eighteen months old,
Speaker 1: actually um, and it went on for fourteen months, cost
Speaker 1: me millions of dollars. Was awful, ugly UM. And then
Speaker 1: I ended up with full custody of him when he
Speaker 1: was nine, but fully legally when he was eleven or twelve. UM.
Speaker 1: I changed everything that I did. It was no longer
Speaker 1: my My career wasn't what was the focus of my life.
Speaker 1: My son was and the career took second place. So
Speaker 1: I turned down being what it would have been possibly
Speaker 1: the highest paid actor in television. UM. For sure. That
Speaker 1: end up going six years. I wasn't in l A
Speaker 1: And that was the reason I had to turn it
Speaker 1: down because I was trying to I was in the
Speaker 1: middle of fighting for joint custody and my son and
Speaker 1: I would have to find a move a a case.
Speaker 1: And I put my attorney said you probably I can't
Speaker 1: say you're gonna win this. Um. I said, so I
Speaker 1: can choose, but for I can choose between being a
Speaker 1: father or having this career and make all this money here,
Speaker 1: and he was like yeah, I said, okay, I choose dad.
Speaker 1: I choose being a father because because my um, I
Speaker 1: was adopted. My dad adopted me when I was four,
Speaker 1: and I look at all the times in my life
Speaker 1: where I needed him, and man, they were a lot,
Speaker 1: um and so I was never gonna have been in
Speaker 1: my son in any way, shape or for him like that.
Speaker 1: So I didn't. And it was just it was tough
Speaker 1: to balance being a dad and still making movies. So
Speaker 1: I started making a lot of Hallmark movies, a lot
Speaker 1: of kids movies and things like that where I could
Speaker 1: bring him on set with me and have him around
Speaker 1: and and he'd see what we're shooting and it's okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not shooting everybody and blowing everything up or you know,
Speaker 1: those kinds of films. And I made. I still made
Speaker 1: those kinds of films, some of them here and there,
Speaker 1: but um, I started making a change what I was,
Speaker 1: what I was doing in front of the camera so
Speaker 1: my son could be there. Um. Now he's twenty two
Speaker 1: years old, he's a senior at High Point University in
Speaker 1: North Carolina. He is doing so well. Um he's happy
Speaker 1: as can be, and um, it just it makes my
Speaker 1: heart explode out of my chest. I don't know. There's
Speaker 1: something about it. My my, my, not my attorney, my
Speaker 1: um accounting. My business manager told me way back in
Speaker 1: the day he has several kids. He's like, Dean, you
Speaker 1: need to have more kids, because when you only have
Speaker 1: one like this, you love him so much that if
Speaker 1: anything goes wrong, it destroys you. You gotta have enough
Speaker 1: where you you know you can, you can spread it
Speaker 1: out a little bit. I did not take that advice,
Speaker 1: uh to heart, and so I only have the one boy.
Speaker 1: I have some god kids and others that I really
Speaker 1: care for and take care of. But there's nothing like
Speaker 1: love I have for my son. I've never experienced anything
Speaker 1: like it. It's the greatest thing ever. Well, I've seen
Speaker 1: you guys together, and I've met him. He's awesome. So
Speaker 1: you've done a You've done a good job as a dad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my mom says that you're you're only as happy as
Speaker 1: your least happy. Yes, and it's true. Your mom is correct.
Speaker 1: She also told me I was more difficult to raise
Speaker 1: than all three boys combined. Also, I totally believe that,
Speaker 1: not from you specifically, but but I have noticed this.
Speaker 1: My my sister is raising a daughter. It's a lot
Speaker 1: more complicated. We're pretty simple. Men were pretty simple. We
Speaker 1: actually belong in at least a full grade below um,
Speaker 1: the same age girls that were. I noticed that too, like, like,
Speaker 1: we should be a grade below because we're just not
Speaker 1: as smart. Well, you know, we have a lot of emotions,
Speaker 1: particularly when we're younger. And then I was very I
Speaker 1: was very stubborn and independent. If you if you can imagine,
Speaker 1: so I can imagine. I do my best to take
Speaker 1: care of them. Now I feel like I like owe them.
Speaker 1: It's like huge debt from what I put them through.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you guys need and how can
Speaker 1: I help? You know, Like, okay, help, I understand why.
Speaker 1: I realized what my difficulty. Uh here it's my I'm
Speaker 1: paying my debts. You know. You know, so you'd played
Speaker 1: Peter Struck in the play FBI Love Birds. Uh what
Speaker 1: do you Why do you think the FBI rated President Trump?
Speaker 1: I think, I you know, hate to be a conspiracy theorist,
Speaker 1: but I think it all goes I have never seen
Speaker 1: government persecution of an individual. It's political. It's disgusting. They're
Speaker 1: all political attacks. The entire time he was in office.
Speaker 1: It was the same thing. Both impeachments were jokes. I mean,
Speaker 1: ridiculous situations. And I've never seen anybody uh so maligned
Speaker 1: as President Trump. I think he was about January six.
Speaker 1: I think they were trying to get more information and
Speaker 1: they're trying to keep him from running in Um. It's
Speaker 1: disgusting to me. We're not you know, this isn't some
Speaker 1: banana republic here. You know that he has did his
Speaker 1: total persecution of a political rival, and it's disgusting. It
Speaker 1: is kind of scary though. Matt Walsh tweeted this out
Speaker 1: today actually in response to the Sydney Sweeney stuff, and
Speaker 1: he said, we're like a month away from the Salem
Speaker 1: witch trials. But it does feel like I mean, it
Speaker 1: does kind of feel like that a little bit. It
Speaker 1: is a little bit scary in the direction that this
Speaker 1: is all heading and and just the virtual like rhetoric
Speaker 1: and actions towards people like us who supported President Trump. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's insane, um and it it is I
Speaker 1: think it's been being cultivated at the you know, educational level,
Speaker 1: um for a long time and been sort of been
Speaker 1: putting putting these these ideas in people's minds. Um, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's like they haven't studied history. We have plenty of
Speaker 1: examples and stuff like this happening in the past and
Speaker 1: in other countries, even in this country. I mean even
Speaker 1: in this country, we've seeing stuff like that before. Even
Speaker 1: you know, the all of the blacklisting stuff that went
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. Um, which which is which is still you
Speaker 1: know quietly happening here. Uh it's like shadow banning, you
Speaker 1: know that sort of stuff. It's it's it's insanity. Um,
Speaker 1: it's wrong. And and hopefully this pendulum will swim swing
Speaker 1: back um where people will be able to spects people
Speaker 1: with other opinions. They are all the people going, oh,
Speaker 1: it's all about diversity, uh an inclusion, except for diversity
Speaker 1: of opinion. If you've got the wrong opinion, Oh you're out,
Speaker 1: You're gone. So it's their complete complete um, Um, what's
Speaker 1: the word? It start to the nature hypocrites there it is. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're complete and total hypocrites. And they talk about that
Speaker 1: stuff and it's always I get more hate and victory
Speaker 1: often than people who have like love and and acceptance
Speaker 1: and resist and stuff in there. Bio love everyone you know,
Speaker 1: la la, everybody should be included. Oh you, I hate you.
Speaker 1: I hope you know you're like wh whoa, whoa? What
Speaker 1: happened to the love and the diversity and acceptance? It's
Speaker 1: just gone now because I don't agree with you. Politically interesting,
Speaker 1: it's insanity. Although I think Republicans have sort of wisened
Speaker 1: up because it's like they always try it or they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you say you're a Christian like this that, and and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I don't need lecturers from
Speaker 1: people who like support transitioning children and like murdering babies,
Speaker 1: so you know what I mean, Like, I really don't
Speaker 1: need a lecture from you. So, but you're gonna get it.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get it. I don't know if people actually
Speaker 1: approach you and have those conversations, because they don't ever
Speaker 1: with me. Almost never, it's just Twitter. It's Twitter, Twitter,
Speaker 1: for sure. Everyone's brave on Twitter. I have to log
Speaker 1: off sometimes because people it just gets exhausting sometimes being
Speaker 1: on there with all this stuff. It really it really
Speaker 1: does well. And we've done internment camps before as a
Speaker 1: country as well. So I mean it's like I do
Speaker 1: worry a little bit about my family was interred. Oh
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, but I didn't really it seems enough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my family, my my my, my father, my grandfather, my
Speaker 1: whole family. They were interred my Japanese side during World
Speaker 1: War two and min Minnedoka over there in Idaho, about
Speaker 1: forty minutes from where I serve as an officer. I
Speaker 1: haven't been there, but I'm I just recently found this
Speaker 1: stuff out because I don't know that side of the
Speaker 1: family very well because I never knew that my biological father,
Speaker 1: never knew him. So but um, you know, with all
Speaker 1: this information that's out there in these twenty three and
Speaker 1: me and ancestry dot Com, I'm I'm finding stuff out.
Speaker 1: It's actually fascinating. But yeah, they were insurd. It just
Speaker 1: seems like we're heading towards it. Just with the left,
Speaker 1: the ends justify the means, and I really honestly think
Speaker 1: we're getting to a place where, uh, you know, they'd
Speaker 1: be willing to do anything one to stop Trump and
Speaker 1: then two to retain power, and then that creates obviously
Speaker 1: a really dangerous scenario in the country. It absolutely does,
Speaker 1: and I pray we don't get there. I think we
Speaker 1: cooler heads will prevail. I'm also the ultimate optimist, so
Speaker 1: I feel I can and will hopefully be a big
Speaker 1: red wave in November. We'll get some things back on track.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, there's a lot of people out there.
Speaker 1: We're fighting sort of the good fight, whether it's the
Speaker 1: Daily Wire and those folks, or the Babylon b or
Speaker 1: people like that that are sort of keeping U besides
Speaker 1: sort of balanced. Uh. And I like that, and I
Speaker 1: hope that continues, and I hope that that's why there's like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a reason Fox News has been number
Speaker 1: one for thirty years, you know what I mean, Um,
Speaker 1: there are people who are paying attention to that and
Speaker 1: and and MSNBC and CNN or you know, CNN went
Speaker 1: far left and then they lost all their audience. That
Speaker 1: stuff that speaks volumes. I feel like I'm definitely more
Speaker 1: of like a realist. Like people are ago, it's half four, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's half empty. I'm like, no, it's just how you know,
Speaker 1: it's just right there, it's right in the middle, right there.
Speaker 1: You know. I do want to be an optimist though.
Speaker 1: I believe in the United States and I believe in
Speaker 1: UM that people will will will come to their senses. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, things like defund the police won't be won't
Speaker 1: be something that people are are chanting. The stupidity of
Speaker 1: it all. I mean, I said these things back when
Speaker 1: it first came out, cash less bail. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: did you go wrong? I mean I remember being on
Speaker 1: and hosting Fox and Friends and having you know, I
Speaker 1: remember having Nicole Mallia talkas before she was elected to
Speaker 1: Congress talk she was running, and remember having a conversation,
Speaker 1: how insane is this? And then now we see the
Speaker 1: results of it. It's it's craziness that has been going on,
Speaker 1: and those progressive policies don't work. They just don't period.
Speaker 1: And then they're like, we don't know why this is happening,
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, it's it's pretty odd. It's because
Speaker 1: you're just letting it's a revolving door of crime. You're
Speaker 1: letting these people out on the streets, and that's why
Speaker 1: it's happening. It's really not that difficult. It's very much
Speaker 1: common sense, extreme common sense. And the four police officers
Speaker 1: are doing their job. But the prosecutors won't won't prosecute
Speaker 1: them or keep you know, people have like, you know,
Speaker 1: nine team counts on their rap sheet. You know, you're like,
Speaker 1: we'll come on, and it's you can't keep just letting
Speaker 1: them out. What's gonna happen is there's gonna be there's
Speaker 1: gonna be pushed back, and people are gonna take that
Speaker 1: the law into their own hands. It's gonna get ugly
Speaker 1: and people someone's gonna go and try to do one
Speaker 1: of those you know, smash and grabs. Someone's gonna get
Speaker 1: shot or a bunch of people are gonna get shot.
Speaker 1: It's gonna get awful um and and I hope, I
Speaker 1: hope it doesn't, but I fear that's where it's going
Speaker 1: because people won't put up with it. They just won't.
Speaker 1: And it's like the same thing with Illegal Immigree show.
Speaker 1: And you've got all these people like mayor atoms and
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, diversities are strong, let let the
Speaker 1: let them all in. And then the second people start
Speaker 1: showing up in New York City and d C, they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is too much, this is so cruel, like we
Speaker 1: can't afford it, or this is overwhelming or infrastructure or healthcare,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like, well, this is what we've
Speaker 1: been saying, screen natural conclusion of your policies. I mean,
Speaker 1: the idea of what's happening in the border. It literally stunts.
Speaker 1: It's stunning, like that is such a congress so abdicating
Speaker 1: their job that literally is their job. And the fact
Speaker 1: that you know, try and go into any other country.
Speaker 1: I've had a home and stains for twenty years, which
Speaker 1: I've often said to you, you can go stay at
Speaker 1: any time you want. You. By the way, I didn't
Speaker 1: take you up on that. You should it's lovely, um,
Speaker 1: but I mean you you you have to when you
Speaker 1: go in these other countries, you have to follow their laws.
Speaker 1: You have to follow their rules. You can't just cruise
Speaker 1: in and and do that sort of stuff. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy what we're allowing to happen on our
Speaker 1: southern border. It is not in any way, shape or
Speaker 1: form um being being fair to the people are that
Speaker 1: are coming through. And then even the steps are taking
Speaker 1: to go through with the cartels and all of the
Speaker 1: horrific freaking um fent and all and stuff that's coming through.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been seeing what's going on there. Uh,
Speaker 1: and they're pretending like it doesn't exist. This administration has
Speaker 1: like we tried to redefine so many The border is closed.
Speaker 1: No it's not. It's not even close to close. They
Speaker 1: say enough times they think that you you're gonna believe it. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, and this inflation is transitory, No it's not.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a zero percent zero that's how much
Speaker 1: inflation happened, this monthing. Yeah, because it's already at nine.
Speaker 1: But it just stayed the same. It just didn't grow.
Speaker 1: I mean, they just are redefining things and the idea
Speaker 1: that people are going to just buy it, and people
Speaker 1: are for some reason, I mean I think people are
Speaker 1: waking up to it. But um, a lot of people
Speaker 1: are just buying what they're selling. And it's ridiculous. It
Speaker 1: reminds me of the old regimes back in the day.
Speaker 1: Um old you know, autocratic receimes down in you know,
Speaker 1: Latin America. It's it's craziness. Well, Jesse Kelly has this
Speaker 1: great theory, it's the sky is Green theory. And he
Speaker 1: says that if I am not going to do it justice,
Speaker 1: but basically, if Joe Biden went out tomorrow and said
Speaker 1: the sky is green. You would have everyone in the
Speaker 1: press saying the sky is green. You would start seeing
Speaker 1: academic papers about how this guy is green. You would
Speaker 1: have a Lebron James would come out and say, hey,
Speaker 1: the sky is green by my favorite nikes. And then
Speaker 1: like Hollywood would start having you know, the sky is
Speaker 1: green and the backdrop of movies, and then by the
Speaker 1: end of it, and you know, half of the country
Speaker 1: would say this guy is green even though it's clearly
Speaker 1: not and you could look up and see that it's blue.
Speaker 1: What do you think is going to happen this November?
Speaker 1: I pray that it's going to be a big giant
Speaker 1: red wave UM and we'll have some balance restored to
Speaker 1: this our politicians, our political machine, UH, Congress and Senate.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see Congress and Senate turn red UM
Speaker 1: and to basically just UM and voters to say it's
Speaker 1: a full rejection of this current regime's UM administration's policies.
Speaker 1: I would love to see that happen. What are my
Speaker 1: things gonna happen? I don't know, because I don't want to.
Speaker 1: You know, like it's before I play a football game
Speaker 1: and I can say we're gonna win by twenty points.
Speaker 1: But um, I'd like to win. I'd like I'd like
Speaker 1: I'd like for common sense to win. I'd like to
Speaker 1: to see a bunch of people, um Republicans get elected
Speaker 1: and restore balanced to this to this administration, because right
Speaker 1: now it's completely out of control. They got a problem.
Speaker 1: They got a spending problem, for sure. The idea of
Speaker 1: hiring eighties seven thousand new I R S Agents, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it feels like government against the people, and it's
Speaker 1: just very odd. It does feel like that, uh, you
Speaker 1: know it. And and then just to complete disconnect to
Speaker 1: as I mentioned earlier about their policy, they're just completely
Speaker 1: insulated from these policies that are just destroying the lives
Speaker 1: of so many Americans. It's it's sad to see, well,
Speaker 1: of course, because they're they go in and there worth
Speaker 1: three thousand dollars when they go on, and then five
Speaker 1: years later there were, you know, thirty million. How's that happen?
Speaker 1: That's what I was saying about Trump the other day
Speaker 1: on like Fox, I was like, whatever you think of
Speaker 1: the guy, Like he's one of the you politicians that
Speaker 1: had something to lose when he went into politics. Everyone else,
Speaker 1: as you just mentioned, they go into it to get rich, right,
Speaker 1: like Joe Biden. In what world would Joe Biden be
Speaker 1: worth eight million dollars in the private sector? Like the
Speaker 1: guy is an idiot none, you know, like in what
Speaker 1: world is Yeah, he's never worked in the private exactly
Speaker 1: because he's an idiot, so he stays in government. But anyhow,
Speaker 1: but yeah, we need to catch up soon in person.
Speaker 1: I you know, I always enjoy seeing you. You're an
Speaker 1: awesome guy. Anything else you want to leave us with
Speaker 1: the in before we go, well, just the thought that
Speaker 1: again I'm an optimist, and I hope that things will
Speaker 1: flip back around and start making making more sense again.
Speaker 1: And um and and I'd love to see you know,
Speaker 1: I'd love to see America thriving um and coming together
Speaker 1: as opposed to what I think has been happening um
Speaker 1: the last few years, which is where you know, everybody's
Speaker 1: trying to divide everyone and so on and so forth. Um.
Speaker 1: I just I wouldn't leave people with the thought and
Speaker 1: the hope that that things will become more um unified
Speaker 1: moving forward and hopefully it'll happen start happening in November.
Speaker 1: But I promise you. Either way, I'm gonna be a
Speaker 1: full optimist and working my tail off and having a
Speaker 1: great time. It doesn't matter. I'm gonna I'll succeed regardless.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that Deankay. Nice to catch up with you,
Speaker 1: my friend, next time in person. I appreciate you coming
Speaker 1: on the show, Happy to anytime. That was fun. It
Speaker 1: was nice to take you know, we got into some politics,
Speaker 1: but it's nice to take a little bit of a
Speaker 1: break every once in a while. Everything is so heavy
Speaker 1: right now. I'm sure you guys at home or are
Speaker 1: feeling it too. I appreciate you listening every Monday and Thursday,
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