WEBVTT - Standing Your Ground with Dean Cain 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.000 So we've been hitting what's been going on with the 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:06.120 FBI raid pretty hard on the show. But I don't 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:10.680 know about you, guys, I'm exhausted by politics. The world 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.600 feels heavy. There's so much going on, and it's just 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:17.240 it's really depressing, to be honest. So we're gonna switch 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:19.239 it up a little bit today. We'll we'll still get 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:21.520 into the important stuff. We'll still get into some of 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:23.560 the political things going on in the country, but I 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:26.080 also just want to talk to a friend who you 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:28.360 guys know at home, who has been a friend of 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:30.520 mine who have gotten to know through my work at Fox, 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:34.560 the actor Dean Kane. He's an awesome guy, a really 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.800 really nice guy, smart guy. So we're gonna talk to 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.920 him about his life. He's an incredibly successful actor. He's 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.600 been in you know, billion movies, a ton of TV shows. 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:46.680 He's best known for his work as Superman, but he's 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:48.559 done so much more than that, and he also has 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:50.879 a really interesting life. He played football before, he had 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.680 a brief stint in the NFL, so we're gonna talk 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.720 about that. He also went to high school with Charlie 0:00:56.720 --> 0:01:01.000 Sheen and Rob Low, so we're gonna talk about his life, 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.280 and you know, get into some of the political stuff 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:05.840 as well, but you know, just have a little laugh, 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.839 talk to a friend, and I hope you guys enjoy 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:22.120 this conversation with my friend Dean Kane. So, first of all, 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:24.720 Dean Kine, it's nice to have you on the show, 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:26.360 my friend. I haven't talked to you in a while. 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.120 I know, well, I you're in You're in Florida, and 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:33.240 I'm in California, and both of us are avoiding New York. So, uh, 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.680 I don't see you much at out in New York 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:39.880 these days because I'm not there very often. And uh, 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.080 I actually spend more time in Florida, so I probably 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.160 could have run into you there. Geez. Yeah, let me 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.280 know next time you're down. I just spent six days 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.440 in New York and it honestly feels like they just 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:51.680 let out in a sane asylum. You have like all 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:55.400 of these crazy people walking around. It's it's it's insane. 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:58.960 I have no desire to be there right now, and 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:00.280 I have a lot of friends who were there, but 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:04.000 I just, holy smokes, it's just it's it's insanity. What's 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:08.280 California like right now? You know, California it's it's such 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:11.400 a huge state. So, I mean, I live in Malibu. 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:14.840 Malib was great. There's been a couple of uh, um, 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.720 it's sort of like a you know, uh flash mob 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.160 kind of robberies that have taken place. Apparently I heard this. 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.240 I didn't. I didn't know anything about it, but I 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:24.880 heard this from my sister and some other folks here. 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:26.560 So there's been a couple of instances like that that 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.280 have taken place. Um, but you hear about it all 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:32.359 the time in Los Angeles itself, all kinds of crazy 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.440 stuff going on. You know, I'm a I'm a I'm 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.919 a sworn sheriff's deputy and a reserve police officer, and 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.079 I I can't, for the life of me understand how 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:45.520 these things are allowed to happen, continually happening and and 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.200 not being prosecuted by by you know, people like George 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:52.000 Gascon here in Los Angeles. It's just insane. Well, and 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.280 you were sworn in as a reserve officer, as you 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.080 just mentioned, uh in two thousand and eighteen. What what 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.040 spurred that decision to to do that? Well, they have 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.720 been this huge sort of First of all, I have 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.680 great respect for the military law enforcement and first responders 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:09.440 always have. Um. My grandfather was was in the commander 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.120 of the Navy. My uncle was lieutenant colonel in the 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:14.760 Air Force. He flew at fifteens um. And and then 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:16.639 I just had a lot of great friends. Who are 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:20.040 you know, Navy seals and and special forces guys, and 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.240 I I just have such respect for them. Um. And 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.520 then the sort of the rhetoric had gone into this 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:30.359 weird place of being anti police and uh, you know, 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.560 occasionally there's a bad apple here or there, they should 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.520 be removed from the force. I'm with that. We all 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.400 know some police officers. You're like, that guy shouldn't be 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.120 or that girl shouldn't have a badge and a gun. Um. 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:44.320 But but by and large they're fantastic people. In the 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.960 way they're being vilified, I figured, you know what, instead 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.000 of just talking about my support for them, I'm gonna 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.240 I'm gonna show up and I'm gonna put on the 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.800 badge and and the gun and and and stand there 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.760 with my you know, brothers and sisters in blue. And 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.320 I've been doing it for six years now. You know what, 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.960 It's been great fun. Um, it's been wonderful to to 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:06.040 to see what kind of people you know who are 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.320 police officers, and they're all people, I mean, to a 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:14.480 person that I know within my two departments, they're fantastic people. Um, 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:18.640 and your your everyday fantastic folks who who are who 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.680 are trained to be in these horrible situations and have 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.400 to react. A couple of my good friends and fellow 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:28.520 officers up in Idaho got shot you know last year, Um, um, 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.839 and they they both survived and and uh, they're they're 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:33.240 doing great. But one of them was you know, worked 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.039 with me on the on the on the range and 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.000 was our range officer, and um, he was a great 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.679 shot too. It's a good thing. Probably saved his life. Um, 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:42.560 but you know, he got shot in the face and 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:44.800 he didn't even look any worse for it though he's 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:48.760 he's still handsome, so but he's fully recovered. But I mean, 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:50.679 there's the kind of people that are just your friends 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.480 and they're regular everyday folks who are putting these situations 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.320 where they have to react right now or or they 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:58.880 or they die or someone else dies. So it's they're 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.000 just they're just great people. Well, it's the thing I 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.560 think everyone you know, everyone watches these videos and stuff 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.000 unfold and they're like, oh, why didn't they just do? 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:09.720 But like when you're in that situation, I mean you 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.400 maybe you've been in this situation, but I've not. And 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:15.440 you know this sort of like split second decision. How 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.560 do you save your life? How do you save you know? 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.760 I mean, like you don't have that kind of time 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.159 to be sort of thinking through these scenarios. It's like 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.640 you've just gotta you know what I mean, It's it's crazy. 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:26.640 You go right to your training, and your training is 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.640 always shoot center mass and shoot to stop the threat. Um. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:32.800 It's not shoot to kill, it's shoot to stop the threat. 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.480 When they stop the threat, they're not shooting anymore. Um. 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.839 But you know, you you have to react in a 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:39.960 in a split second. I mean even President Biden was 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.080 like shoot them in the leg. You know how difficult. 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:43.799 You know. Also, there's a thing of the fhemeral artery. 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.600 If you shoot that, they're gonna die anyway. Um. You know, 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.880 you shoot somebody hits a bone, it's gonna break the bone. 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.880 I mean, there's awful things that happened with gunshots and 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.680 and awful, but you know we're taught and trained to 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.240 shoot center mass to stop the threat. That's how it 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.599 works because it's it's hard anybody who doesn't shoot you 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.000 try to hit a moving target. You know, it's very 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:07.360 difficult to do. Most I think most gunfights are like 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:11.719 within like four ft and everything is the shots or mrs. 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.120 You know, it says some kind of crazy statistic like 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:15.880 that because you know, everybody's trying to get out of 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:17.960 the way and it's hard to hit him moving target. 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.480 People don't believe me. Get out on the range and 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.760 and take a shot, take a few shots, and see 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:24.960 see what you do. Well. Now, so you know, Joe 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:28.080 Biden's never shot a gun because I I I'm like 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.080 new to this, right, So I'm getting a gun for 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.880 the first time. I've been I've taken my concealed carry 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:36.279 class I have. I've been training with an instructor because 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:38.200 I feel like it's a big responsibility, you know, and 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:40.000 I want to know what I'm doing before I bring 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.640 a gun home and have it in my home and 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.680 and have that kind of responsibility. So like that's like 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:46.560 the first thing, one of the first things you're taught 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.599 is you shoot center mass. And so it's very clear, 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.080 like clearly he's never had held a gun. Right, Like 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.719 he has no idea what he's talking about. Like I know, 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.960 I know this, and I'm not even trained like you 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.680 you know, like I've I've taken a handful of classes 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.440 at at best, you know, right, But I mean, like 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.080 he says things so inane, like you know, he told 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.200 I told Jill, you know, just you hears something going 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:08.840 on in the backyard, go out there with a double 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.360 barrel shotgun and fire off a couple of rounds. And 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:16.960 you know, I'm like, literally that's illegal. Hey, you're out 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:18.440 of you have no more shells in your double barrel 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.920 shotgun and you gotta reload. And what are you shooting at? 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.080 You know, you you have to see your target before 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.720 you shoot, and also what's beyond your target? I mean, 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.440 there's so many things. I was like, what you can't 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:31.160 there's a hysterical um that little that news that that 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.800 video where Darren Chris sings the you know by a shotgun. 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.040 It's it's a hysterical and people haven't seen it. Look 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.480 it up. It is so funny. But it's clear that 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:43.120 he has no business. Um, he doesn't understand guns or 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:46.320 gun laws or anything, so he really has no business 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:48.840 talking about him. It drives me bananas. But it's that 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.280 kind of the problem with all these guys. You've got 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:55.120 all these politicians who are writing policies, who are you know, 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:59.160 coming up with legislation that either they're completely unfamiliar with, 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:02.240 you know, or or that just doesn't impact them in 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:06.200 any way whatsoever a hundred percent. And that's what makes 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.720 me crazy when I see people talking about you see 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.280 Thomas Massey, you know, and they're talking talking about laughing 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.040 at one of some of these things people are talking about, 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:17.000 you know, um about you know, a bump stock or whatever. 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:18.920 Bump stock by the way, anybody who knows anything bump 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.080 stock is the most ridiculous. It's just stupid. And so 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.360 how that became political bump stock? Anybody's uosing a bump stock. 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.560 You can't hit hit it can't hit anything, first of all, 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.440 because you don't want to shoot automatically, you know, you 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.960 don't want to go fully auto any anyways. But I 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.080 don't want to get into this specificity of that, but 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.320 it's clear they don't know what they're talking about, and 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:41.000 it's it's it's ridiculous, you know, go full semi auto. Well, 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.960 full semi auto doesn't exist. You're, oh, every gun is 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.480 semi automatic. Um, but it's clear that they don't know 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:48.600 what they're talking about when they're doing talking about these 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.160 things and making policy and law and that that is 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.800 it's insanity, it's it should never be happening. Well, I 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.400 think it's probably why everything's, you know, such a mess. 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.640 Among you know, a list of other things, quick break 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:05.800 more with Dean Kine. You know what I was thinking 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:09.360 about the other day, Uh, and before you know, knowing 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:10.960 that I was going to interview at you today and 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:12.559 then also had this like ran into my head the 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.680 other day about the New Year's Eve special. Oh yeah, 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.280 we did. How much fun was that? I had the 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:22.120 best time. I had an absolute blast. It was it 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:26.520 was dang cold, but it was so cold. I think 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:30.120 it was the coldest on record for New Year's Eve 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.280 in in in Central Park and we were not far 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.800 from there, So yeah, that was. I had a blast though. 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.120 That was that was great fun. And uh, heck I 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.960 do that again. And we were troopers too. We didn't complain. 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.000 We kept it fun. I remember I texted my parents. 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.080 I think ed Henry complained a little. I think he was, 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:47.920 you know, he was he was crying a little bit. 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.959 He was we we we were cool. We didn't. I 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:54.480 texted my parents afterwards, and I think I could not 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.880 hit the right buttons on my phone. I think my 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:58.840 fingers I'm not even kidding, you know, Like it was 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:00.920 like I was communicating, I was trying to like hit 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.960 the right buttons, and my fingers were just so cold. 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.040 I could not. It was like it was like I 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:07.880 didn't I had no control over them. It was the 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.439 most bizarre thing. That's how my tongue was starting to 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.880 get I was starting to freeze, and so my lips 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:16.360 are starting to freeze, and I'll started starting to mispronounced words, 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.360 just the same as my same as the texting. I 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.320 was a little bit. It was it was freaking cold, 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.120 and I couldn't believe how many people were out there 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.559 still in that weather. Incredible. You know. I was thinking, 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:28.440 I told a friend this. I don't know why this 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:30.600 I could popp to my but remember when we interviewed 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:35.080 the naked cowboy. Yeah, so I had asked him. I 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.240 was like, oh, like, what does your mom think of this? 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:38.880 And he was like she's dead and I was like, 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:45.400 oh god, just that, yeah, like Nearsy's supposed to be fun, 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:50.160 and I was like, I just killed like you can't. 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.480 There's no way you can know that. There's no way. 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:54.520 And it's a fair question because I would have wanted 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.320 to him, and I can't console him because the dude's naked, 0:10:58.480 --> 0:10:59.880 Like you know, I'm like, I'm not going to give 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.240 that this guy hug. So I was just like, I know, 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:05.120 I just made this so awkward and it's supposed to 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:08.000 be fun. It's like, I don't know what to do 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:12.559 with this guy. I'm so sorry. TV. That is the 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:17.440 fun of live TV. That's hysterical. I know. I was 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.199 like this, I don't know why this just popped in 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:20.640 my head. The other day, I was talking to a 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:22.600 friend about something and it just like I kind of 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.199 giggled myself because I like, you know, just popped in 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.240 my head, and I was like, I felt so bad. 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:29.480 I didn't know what to do. I'm not gonna lie. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:34.440 I often think about the naked cowboy myself. Yes, that's 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.960 it's wrong. That is exactly if so. I was thinking 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:41.240 about him, so the one who got away, you know, like, uh, 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:45.319 you know, so I was looking at you know, because 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.240 obviously I know you, but I didn't know, so I 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:50.120 knew you played football at Princeton, but I didn't realize 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:53.839 that you brew briefly in the NFL for the Buffalo Bills, 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:55.680 but then you hurt yournee. Did you ever? Like, what 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:57.160 do you think do you think you would have gotten 0:11:57.160 --> 0:12:00.240 into acting if the NFL thing had worked out? Yeah? 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.079 I think I would have eventually got into acting, but 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.840 it would have been, you know, after after football was over. 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.440 I think that for sure would have happened, only because 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:09.960 I grew up in it. I grew up around it. 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.480 I grew up you know, my dad's a director. I 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:16.680 grew up with Roblow, Charlie Sheen, Amelia Estevez, Holly Robinson, 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:19.320 all these sorts of people who Sean Penn, Chris Penn, 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.800 all these guys who became actors, guys and girls who 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:25.440 got into that world because our parents were involved in 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.800 that industry. And um, I also just noticed what my 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.880 friends were doing, Like at Princeton, they'd go and work 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.200 on Wall Street for internships in the summertime, and uh, 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.560 I would go on my dad's sets, and I was like, 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:38.840 I gotta be honest, these sets are a hell of 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.360 a lot more fun than than eighty hours in a 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.360 in a suit in New York City in the UH 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:48.320 in the dead of summer. No way, So, um, I said, 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.840 you know, that's that's. I liked the idea of having 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:55.520 project by project, you know, life's as I preferred doing 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.559 my like independent work at Princeton. I liked writing my 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:00.480 big papers and doing things like that more than going 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.240 to class every day. So it really was more in 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.120 the world that I wanted to be. Um the creative 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.600 world as well. So I knew by the time I 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.400 was a junior that there's no way I was gonna 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:14.120 be an investment banker on Wall Street and I was 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.679 gonna work in the film industry in some which some 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:18.840 way shape its form. My idea was to start as 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:21.280 a writer, and I did start as a writer. Um, 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.160 but what my idea was that would be working on 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.840 my writing at night and then playing football during the day. 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.480 And you know that was keep my mind working and 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.200 as I was bashing my head against other people's heads. Yeah, 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:37.480 sounds a little contradictory. I want that's my life. That 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:42.800 is absolutely my life. So that's that's that's what I 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.640 thought i'd be doing. And and I'm and I've been blessed, 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.320 so blessed and lucky to be able to be doing 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.559 that for so many years. I don't want to say 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:52.920 how many, but it's been a long time. And I 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.280 thowt you went to high school with Charlie Chen and 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:59.320 Rob blow elementary school? Oh really, I mean I played, 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:03.559 you know, Charlie and I were in baseball teams forever together. Um, 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.440 you know, all over the place. I mean Rob didn't 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:09.560 really participate in sports. He wasn't a sportster. The girls 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.520 love Rob like he didn't want to hurt the faith. 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.199 He didn't want to hurt face, not the faith. Uh 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.400 you know, you know he liked his his his brother 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.360 Chad is a it was a better athlete than than Rob. 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.840 But you know, it was such a small little area 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:27.200 growing up that we all knew each other so well. So, 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:29.800 I mean Maliwood now only has like thirteen thousand people 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.240 in it. People don't realize that there's not a whole 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:33.480 lot of folks out here. Do you want to stay 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.600 in touch? Oh yeah, it's family. If I see any 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.480 of them, it's it's family right away. Even though you know, look, 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:41.440 some guys have made some poor choices and done some 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.200 weird things, and um, but they're still family, like Sean 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.640 Penn and I like our parents are best friends. I 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.640 see Sean, it's his family. I couldn't disagree with him 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:53.760 more politically on most everything. Um but I still love 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:55.880 the guy. Do you learn who your friends are in 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.040 Hollywood when you come out and support a President Trump. 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:06.920 I realized that people have this. President Trump broke a 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.160 lot of people. They have such as some people just 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.680 have such a clear total dislike for him that they 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.800 are blinded to anything else. They can't talk policy, they 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.080 can't do anything. Um but I'd love to get him 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.960 involved in a conversation. Let's have this, Let's have a discussion. 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.640 What don't you like? I can't stand him. He's still rude, 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.840 blah blah blah. What about his policies? Well what did 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:29.920 I get? Nothing? So that's what I get into. It 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:31.160 was like, look, you don't have to like the guy. 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.000 I don't. That's up to you. Some people don't like me, 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.680 maybe I don't like you. But policy is what what 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.200 matters to you, know when a politician steps out there, 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.200 and the policies that President Trump had in place where 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.160 a thousand times better, uh than the policies that this 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.640 current administration has and they want to, I want to 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:51.240 discuss policy. They don't really. Hollywood also is as a 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.680 as a land of cowards. They would never say, um, 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.840 you know, I I disagree with this, blah blah blah blah. 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.640 They don't really say that. They they they would. They 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:02.200 kind of smile to your face and then stab you 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.160 in the back as you walk away. Well did you 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:09.680 see that? Uh this Sydney Sweeney. Uh, she's in Euphoria, 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.680 the show you I've never watched it, but it's you know, popular. 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:18.200 But apparently now she's like maybe getting canceled because she 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.760 threw apart. Did you see this? Like through a party 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.960 for her mom and apparently people were wearing like make 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.400 sixty Great Again hats and then there was some guy 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:32.560 in a you know, a pro you know, please something 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.280 like that. And then now she's there's like I'm even 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.920 like looking at the news articles right now. It's insane. 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.680 It's absolute madness. God bless her and her family. Happy 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.640 birthday to her mom. And I, you know me, I 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.520 don't just again, the idea that you know, somebody wears 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:51.960 a back the blue shirt and that's offensive is totally insane. 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.080 I and I go so far as to strap on 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.440 a badge and a gun. So I go the exact opposite. 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.600 I mean, I go full blue. So I think that's 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:05.040 just madness. And and look, city Sweeney's four years old. 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:09.320 She's drop dead gorgeous. Um, and she's on a show. 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.679 I haven't watched it either because I don't watch many shows. 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:16.800 But bless her, and she'll hopefully just give him all 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:20.120 the finger and and and carry on with what she's doing. 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.000 I haven't seen this stuff. I should look it up. 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:26.400 But the idea of canceling someone because they support law enforcement, 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:30.080 or because they support President Trump, or even even that 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.439 that that shout out to President Trump, or even you know, 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:37.080 I mean somebody else, who is it? It's it's a 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.080 Nick Cercy, a buddy of mine, real good buddy of mine. 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.720 And um, an outspoken conservative is hysterical. I think, what 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.320 do you have had? Make make Americans smart again? I 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:49.880 think that's what that was. Um. But listen, I have listen. 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:51.920 I I've met with President Trump in the Oval Office. 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:53.840 I've got one of his forty five hats. That thing 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:55.960 is awesome. I love it, um, and I think it 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.480 says make American great again. UM, I don't wear it out. There, Um, 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:01.959 just because I don't like to wear red hats, but 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.199 just because I wear a black hats, that's what I 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:07.119 like to wear. Um. Red's not your color, then is 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:10.400 that your it's It has nothing to do with the implication. 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.840 But red is not my color. Um. Orange. I'd wear 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:17.120 orange only because orange and black with the Princeton Tigers 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:21.560 and I can do that. Um. But but that's about it. Um. 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.920 And I wear purple sometimes now because my son goes 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.879 to the school high Point University and their purple. Um, 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.120 but not Red's not my color. But it has nothing 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:32.480 to do with the the idea that it's a that 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:35.600 make American grade again. Had and Sydney Sweeney, good for her. 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.560 Stand strong, um and just don't listen to all that 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:42.359 stupid noise. Continue just being an actor and do your finger. 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:44.560 And also, I don't think these people understand if you 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:48.200 just ignore it, it's gonna go away. Yeah, and they'll 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:51.840 go find another target. It's when they keep apologizing and 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.320 you know they've been, they've been the knee. That's when 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.600 you get canceled. If you're just like, yeah, you know, 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.359 whatever was my mom's birthday, I move on, then people 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.359 will move on. Yep, she should they will. I did 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.680 notice that, um, because I I was targeted with a 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:08.160 lot of stuff early on. And you know you can't. 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.879 I'll never apologize for for something unless I've you know, 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.639 made a legitimate mistake, you know, Um, But then I 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:17.600 would tell I mean I was wrong about that. This 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.240 is how it should be. But bowing, bending the knee 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:24.240 and bowing to the mob is an absolute uh. It's 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:26.800 it's a disaster for anybody. And I've seen it happen 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:29.000