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Speaker 1: And that's something that you see what I'm saying, don't

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00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: because now we get it's six to the one. You

425
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And it's important that we bring

426
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: more to the table man than than six. And that's

427
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: on either level. You know, anybody around me at this

428
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: point in my life, they learn from me. They get

429
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: game from me, They get understanding from me. They also

430
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: can get some paper if they need it if things

431
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: get sticky. They also can get a little bit of gifts.

432
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: You did what what I'm saying. They also, you know,

433
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: I also take you the pound time. You see what

434
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But it's important that I live foundation where

435
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: you get loving and you get security, and you get privacy,

436
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: and you get passionate and you get you see what

437
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you get these things the way you can

438
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: feel like you actually got some tangible versus ship. Just

439
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: lay down from me, because that's so easy for a

440
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: dude to get down today far certain kind of dudes,

441
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: that ain't an issue. It's my point. It's the furthest

442
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: thing from priority because it's the closest thing to getting

443
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: see you see how that works. It's the furthest thing

444
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: from priority because it's the closest thing to me. I

445
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: can get that at any time. Default here bang. You

446
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. They know it's up with me,

447
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: So it ain't no we having no type shortages on that,

448
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: nanning Now, there ain't no shortages on that. So any

449
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: relationship is important to make sure you bringing all the

450
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: way around the board. So dealing would have been in

451
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: that dude, do you put yourself in a situation to say,

452
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let him go kick it with his eggs

453
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: twice a yeah, once a yeah, exclusive vaucase. You know,

454
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: but somehow the white man been able to trick his

455
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 1: woman that they they can you know, or they been

456
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: able to trick other people. I ain't even gonna say

457
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: his woman because a lot of times they cheating, the

458
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: woman just holding them down. But the public look at

459
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: it like I'm shocked he was cheating, or they're just

460
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: a platonic relationship. They're just friends, you know. You know,

461
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: if Lord take about it. You know, we're in the Bahamas,

462
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: me and your girl in the Bahamas. She's at Poundtown. Man.

463
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: If me and your girl is at Bahamas, she's gone

464
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: the Poundtown. You see what I'm saying, And it's all

465
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: so understood. You see a woman with me somewhere on vacation,

466
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: they just instantly they don't think I'm out there and

467
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: we're just cool and reading books and thinking about you

468
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, some kind of how certain kind

469
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: of white boy don't being able to trick the woman

470
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: to think that they can be out there with a

471
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: woman and the ain't nothing going on. I'm too geeky

472
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: to understand, but I think it's colt. But I think

473
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: she understood that there was, you know, intimacy involved with

474
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: those vacations, right. I just think she understood what was there.

475
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: Rich kivin Samuel's tends to say that you got to

476
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: deal with it, ma'n ma'am, you got to deal with it.

477
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: You got to deal with your dudes high value. You

478
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: got to deal with them dealing with more than just

479
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: one woman. It is sixty to one out there. Man.

480
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: I was just talking to one of my homeboys and

481
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: we was talking about just in our younger years coming

482
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: up and dealing with girls and pulling up at the

483
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: house and some of them be living nasty. He'd be like, man,

484
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: this is a woman. Man, this ship here crazy, I'm

485
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: talking about this. Wow. You see what I'm saying, Like

486
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: you're in a situation, you're living like this, You getting

487
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: dressed out the flow. That's why I said, Man, next

488
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: time I meet the motherfucker, I'm asking them questions. It's different.

489
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: What's what days you watch clothes on? What's the last

490
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: shit you'd uncooked? If you just had a pork chops

491
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: and spaghetti and shit? Like? Got know you basic? You

492
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying? What you you know? I got

493
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: to ask you certain little thing because I've seen a

494
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: girl carve out a little section of the room and

495
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: sit there on our phone and you'd be like, what's

496
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: going on? But love it? The whole rest of the

497
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: house dirty. And you will be the first person to

498
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: say you don't got no time. Now. You just ain't

499
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: cut like that. You see what I'm saying. You got

500
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: to be cut like that. You got to consolidate and

501
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: grew up under that and want to leave that way.

502
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: Because me, my house got to stay clean. Because a

503
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: clean house allows me to think, it allows me to feel,

504
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: it allows me to least be. Sometimes I sit out

505
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: in my room, man, and I got the orange room.

506
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: I got some orange shit going on. I got ahold

507
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: of setup going on, right, I'm talking about to burnt

508
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: orange with the brown, two three different colors. Like it's

509
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: shit hard, right, So I got to set up going on.

510
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: But it's like sometimes I sit it in and just

511
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: smell good and it's clean. I'd be like, man, this

512
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: is cool. My mind can go. But your motherucker that

513
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: can lay in fiel y'all to be shamed yourself. So

514
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: ebni Kay Williams, which is she's a lawyer, she's someone

515
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: that works close in the culture as a media personality.

516
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: I think she was on State of the Culture actually

517
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: with Joe Budden. I think she ended up leaving this show.

518
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: Um for several reasons. People's tend to say things, but

519
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: that's another that's another note. Um, she she had a

520
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: situation where she went on Wendy Williams and spoke about

521
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: her her boyfriend of four years did not spend the

522
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: quarantine with her, which ultimately ain't that relationship. Let's hear

523
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: a clip from it, and, um, you know what this quarantine?

524
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: I think, like a lot of couples, Wendy, it made

525
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: us tell the truth about our relations up their podcast

526
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: most four years, so you never spent that amount of

527
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: do you live? Did you live with him at the

528
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: time of quarantine? Up their podcasting with me. He's he

529
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: has three children, two of which are young adults, and

530
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: he chose to quarantine in New Jersey with his semi

531
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: adult children. And for me, listen, I'm not a parent yet,

532
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: so I'm not I get that they're number one, right,

533
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: but I need to be number one, Wendy, And I

534
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: wasn't number one, so I needed to move on. Okay, okay?

535
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: How long did it take you to move on from

536
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: the time that you realized that he wasn't going to

537
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 1: come quarantine? You six months the couples counseling and everything,

538
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: and then on zoom. Yeah, And he's a lovely man,

539
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: just wasn't for me, you know, he's older, he'd been there.

540
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: Now what this said to me was he and then

541
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: you gotta understand the type of man you're dealing with

542
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with their Minnie Kay Williams. So I'm saying,

543
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: when you hear it someone's a lawyer, you gotta understand

544
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: that they spend game is a It's crash Bandicoot level.

545
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When somebody's a lawyer, they

546
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: spend game is crash Bandicoot level. So what she's saying there,

547
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: he chose to go stay with the baby moment. He

548
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: would probably always operating with two families, allegedly. So I

549
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: want to get some game out. I want to sit

550
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: here for a second, because the harsh reality is that

551
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: a lot of times, especially when you're dealing with older men,

552
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: you're dealing with a couple of different families. Because the

553
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: young woman that he's dealing with, he understands that, man,

554
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: this ain't nothing. I'm just here for the ride. You

555
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: ain't FeelA, you know what I'm saying. So a lot

556
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: of times that's the situation, but you necessarily don't understand

557
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: because some people, old school pimp dudes, they gotta understanding

558
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: what their girl that they may not be home on Christmas,

559
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: they're gonna be over here with the young with the

560
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: new young girl. I spend twenty Christmas with you, you

561
00:36:54,920 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: know this, father, I engage ye and on everything at all. Shit,

562
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: I got to get on back out here. Some of

563
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: them my old school niggas is a money and them dudes,

564
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: is they next level? You know? And um? And sometimes

565
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: they operate with two families. So what it sounds like,

566
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: um in that situation that this guy was already operating

567
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: with two families, and the quarantine just put it putting

568
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: in your face. See the quarantine put it in a

569
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: lot of people's face. Now, I would come to see

570
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: you once a week since quarantine. Man, I don't know

571
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: where you are and don't care. I'm at home with

572
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: the real one. I'm at home with the one that's

573
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: gonna wash my back and if I get paralyzed, gonna

574
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: take care of me. I would just playing in them fling. Yeah,

575
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: I was just playing in the backyards. Man, I wasn't.

576
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: I didn't come Netter, you did what I'm saying. But yeah,

577
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: now this quarantine hitting, I'm home. But she loved to

578
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: do you know, because if it was really about the kids.

579
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: How do you argue with the kids. But it's two things,

580
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: she said to let me know it wasn't about the kids.

581
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: There's a woman, then she's a Lloyd. So that's the

582
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: way of framing it to make herself feel better. She said,

583
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: some of them are semi grown and then as a

584
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: small one, so the baby mama got to be around

585
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: the small one. So the small one just over chilling.

586
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: Now the baby mama's around. You didn't feel that. You

587
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: didn't like that one of my homeboys. Like man, most

588
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: most people run back to their baby mama's and baby daddy. Hey, man,

589
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: I don't care who you be with. Man, you whenever

590
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: you want to leave me. Man, you ain't got to

591
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: tell me I'm knowing. Ain't you know what I'm saying.

592
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: You can just dip You did what I'm saying. They

593
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: ain't too you need what I'm saying. So it's those

594
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: kind of situations, you know what I'm saying, Because I

595
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: may not tell you when I dip on you unless

596
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: I told you that, unless we were in deep you

597
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But if we're just playing around

598
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: with it and you disrespectful and this and that, and

599
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: then you talking. Man, I would dip on you, and

600
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: you would You wouldn't have a clue. You just pop

601
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: up one day. I'm gone, you understand me. But if

602
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: it's because how do you argue with the kid thing?

603
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: It's rough to argue with that. I don't see nobody

604
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: arguing in with that, you know what I'm saying. So

605
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 1: that that just made me feel like it's something else.

606
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: It's probably about the It's probably about something else, you

607
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Um, they got um they got

608
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: Gi Herbo for lying to a federal agent saying he

609
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: doesn't know the promoter. Got is tidy and on the case.

610
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: So Giherbo has been I don't know if he's been

611
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: re arrested or they just up dis charges. They charged

612
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: him with lying to a federal agent about knowing somebody.

613
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: I've seen the lawyers say that it must be weak

614
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: because for them to bring up something like it, he

615
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: got caught lying or is it in the biggest scream

616
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: of things where you're trying to discredit anything that I

617
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: can come in and say and testify. Just make me

618
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: out of a liar, right. If that's the case, you

619
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: gotta know, you gotta understand, these court games are different

620
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: kind of games. This court room is a slimy spot,

621
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. So they're doing a bunch

622
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: of everything trying to make it happen, you know what

623
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: I mean. Something that came up, and you know, I

624
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: had people damning me asking me what do I feel?

625
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: On the New Artists Moree. He's from the Carolinas, I believe,

626
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: had that song about quick saying I believe the name

627
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: of the song was I Like the dude. You know.

628
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: Some couple of things struck me as all right. They

629
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: had him on a Big Boys shout out, Big Boy

630
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: West Coast, they had him on Big Boy right, they

631
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: had him on so they had him on Big Boys

632
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: radio show. I don't the West Coast, big Boy in

633
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, And it was kind of asking him, man,

634
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: what was it like man? Because people have people have

635
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: made the gesture, made the comment that they believe that

636
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: he's an industry plant. For those of you that don't

637
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: know what the industry plant is. An industry plan is

638
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: someone at the record labels signed with the intention of

639
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: putting presenting the act as some sort of grass roots

640
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: act that's gonna wheel and deal this way up to

641
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: the top, right in front of your very eyes. But

642
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,479
Speaker 1: this has all been an orchestrated plan from the jump.

643
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: So that's kind of an industry plant, right Um, working

644
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: on behalf for the industry, but acting like you're not.

645
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: And so some people want to attach that label to

646
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: his name. And when I think about it, you know,

647
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: he said, man, he said, uh, I'm not a you know,

648
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 1: basically said he denied it. I'm not an industry plan.

649
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: I'm somebody man that's just happy to be here. And

650
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: he does give off the happy to be here energy

651
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: and I can appreciate that, you know, I'm sure the

652
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: white people can appreciate that, you know, the very h

653
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: you know, just that type of vibe, you know, black

654
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: man with that kind of vibe. So um, just thinking

655
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: about it, I said, damn, man, I asked myself. I said, Luna,

656
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: do you look at his situation and then do you

657
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: think he's an industry plant? His situation there, he's got

658
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: love from the baby, he's got love from j Cole,

659
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: who rarely even tweets or do anything in regards to

660
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: co signing type vibe. And then if he does, they've

661
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: done something surrounding this to allow people to know that

662
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: this is a thing. J Cole thinks he's dope, right,

663
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: this is being pushed out its press, right because there's

664
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: people that come under my ship that say, yo, you dope.

665
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: It won't make the press because there's nobody around to

666
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: push it to the press. Like, look, make this a thing.

667
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: Let people know that J. Cole thinks thinks he's cool,

668
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: you know. Um. And that's the first thing I asked myself.

669
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: But then I said, well, loon, do you think that

670
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: maybe they'll city show love differently? You think that's city

671
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: maybe you know, post each other on the come up,

672
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: And I just I find that kind of hard as well.

673
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: One thing I will say is that it's all about

674
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: the look when you see and you see them going

675
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: Genius and Lemonade and Big Boy and Breakfast Club. How

676
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: these looks? Is these looks right here, it's the machine.

677
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: When you hear them off a talk about the machine,

678
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: that's the machine. That Big Boy, that Breakfast Club, that

679
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: lad that's Academics, that Genius, the Lemonade, lyrical Lemonade or whatever.

680
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, All these things, man, where

681
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: you see him pop up the audio mac to this

682
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: to that. That's the machine that you talk about, because

683
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: what happens is it solidifies you in the eyes of

684
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: the consumer. They see all these brands, big brands standing

685
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: next to you. That mean you must be a real thing.

686
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: Now you can make it without those brands. But I'm saying,

687
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: once that happens, it's kind of a it's kind of

688
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: like they push you off the airplane when you sky diver.

689
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,479
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So you didn't you didn't

690
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: climb the tree. You got dropped from the sky. You

691
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: just got to try to land in a good spot.

692
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. Because it's all about the look.

693
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 1: I can be the best basketball player on the team,

694
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: but if the coach don't never ever run to play

695
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: to get me that three in the corner where I'm

696
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: shooting a hundred percent from, They'll never know I got

697
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: that three. And a lot of artists find themselves in

698
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: that situation. Now with the Internet, it's kind of changing things,

699
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: but they've managed to create an ecosystem even on the Internet.

700
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: I thought the Internet when it first happened, Man, I

701
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: was sitting somewhere saying, Man, they ain't on beta. Oh

702
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: it's wide open now, and they still try to act

703
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: like it's wide open. The industry is not wide open

704
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: in regards to getting in. You can get in, right,

705
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you can't get in, but they still

706
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: have managed to be able to slither that away in

707
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: a position to create an ecosystem the playlist again, like

708
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm telling you what they're saying, Like with the Moray Kid,

709
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: all these interview spots, it solidifies you in the consumers

710
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: eyes right seeing them next to these looks. It don't

711
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: matter what it calls. Some of these looks you can't get.

712
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: Some of these looks is booked out. They're doing label

713
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: favors things like that is happening, you know what I'm saying.

714
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: So it's a real thing that you gotta consider when

715
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: you think about this game is layers and layers on

716
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: top of layers. Man. This ship is not just a

717
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: one of you're done thing. This thing is layers on

718
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: top of layers. Man. You gotta be swift. And that's

719
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: why I say, I know the people that's watching me.

720
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You gotta have a certain

721
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: level of understanding to keep up with me. The people

722
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: that listen to me and be like, wow, I don't

723
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: really you don't have the level of understanding. You gotta

724
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: have a certain level of understanding even keep up with

725
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: this kind of shit. This is high level of shit.

726
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: This is fast paced basketball. This ain't the slow down game.

727
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: This is you got to have a certain understanding. I

728
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: may not even finish a sentence sometime. I need you

729
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: to be so tapped in that you you know why

730
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: I was headed. I just laid it all out. Let's

731
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: move on. I got some moret shit. I got to

732
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: get out there. I was watching the news, man, I've

733
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: seen something of what they said that Derek shouldn maybe

734
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: trying to get a new trial because one of the

735
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: jurors came out and they've ran pictures of them and

736
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: caught them at the Black Lives Matter ratlets. So they

737
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: put in the game down. They're letting you know now

738
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: your jewelers come out talking, we're running all the Black

739
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: Lives Matters from my all coastal. Yeah, we're running them

740
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: of us for some image searches. We're looking for you.

741
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: If we can find you anywhere at one of them,

742
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to discredit to see this is the game, man,

743
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be rough for them. All the cause

744
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: is stacked against him at this point. Things are rough

745
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: at this point for you know, I do think that

746
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 1: you can't be so quick to run and do interviews though,

747
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, you can't be so quick to after something

748
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: so monumental. Man, you can't run and go do interviews.

749
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: I know everybody won't. They fifteen minutes and they might

750
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: even got a check forward. And if they didn't, I

751
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: would say, it's not it would be a bad decision

752
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: not to have been paid for that. But nonetheless, um damn,

753
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: it was just over with. We're trying to make sure

754
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: it even go through. They was already talking crazy, but

755
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: within that meant amount of time, we already out talking. Man. Yeah, man,

756
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: we just thought it. You know. I listen, bro, I'm

757
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 1: just trying to make sure we secure the win. I'm

758
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: just trying to make sure we secure the win. It's

759
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: too much playing going on. The same with the on TV,

760
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: the same with the I'm sorry on Instagram, with the

761
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: guns and all these things. Hey man, I say, it's

762
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: the dumbest thing you can do. I look at it.

763
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: I look at it and say, you think delete, get

764
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: rid of that. See what a lot of a lot

765
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: of stuff that y'all doing with these phones. Delete, don't

766
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: get rid of that. I need that to be understood.

767
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: When you snap something with that phone, delete don't get

768
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: rid of that. There's a backup of a backup that

769
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: if things get really crucial, that they can pull from.

770
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: I was teaching my homeboard about metadata. Like these people, man,

771
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: they on top of stuff that's just like it's it's

772
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: just a different level of metadat it is. Well, I

773
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: can take a picture in the south of France and

774
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: they can run it and get the coordinates on it.

775
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: It's exactly where that picture was took it. It can

776
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: be a self for me. I can take a self

777
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: for me and post it. They can take that and

778
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: get that meta day and figure out why I was

779
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: when I took that picture. So it's game out there

780
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: that we don't even got our hands around. But when

781
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: you get crucial, when they caught you with this amount

782
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: of or something like that, or you look like you're

783
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: feel to be the feed case they pull from, they

784
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: pull out another lad this ship to try to close

785
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: it down. You know what I'm saying. But but one

786
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: thing about it, if you play long enough I get

787
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: the least see what you're playing with. Whether I'm able

788
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,959
Speaker 1: to beat you or not, that's that's yet to be seen.

789
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: But at least I get to see what you're working with,

790
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: how you maneuvering, how you coming through. You know what

791
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's just as important for somebody that's a

792
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: creative or thinker, you know, being able to see, Oh

793
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: he liked to go left left right, cool, but after

794
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: he goes left left right, he ducked. You know, you're

795
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: paying attention to things, and you put your play together

796
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: based up on that, you know what I'm saying. Also,

797
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: U was for some reason and my algorithm and popped

798
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: up back when million dollars worth a game went through

799
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: a situation. And see, this is why I say, everybody's

800
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: not innocent. This thing's going on in this game. That's

801
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: why it can't. Nobody to getting mad at Loan for say, Loon,

802
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: you can't. Why are you telling them? Fold man? Being

803
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: the contracts and this and there, This is what this

804
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: game me is. They laid this foundation down. This game

805
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: me is, hey man, figure out what people getting paid

806
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: and then know what you're getting paid. The same with

807
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: the NFL or your wide receiver, or you the number

808
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: three wire receiving. You make one twenty? Why I'm the

809
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver? I need to make one sixty.

810
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: I'll be a fool not the way to mark it up.

811
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: I'll be a fool not to pay attention to what

812
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: you know makes us alike and what makes us different,

813
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: and what strives to keep who or in the race longer?

814
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: You know? So for me it's understanding these things. But

815
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: but back when Willow and Gilly had an issue with

816
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: Dell right U, Joe Buttingham talked Joe Bunten Rory Mall

817
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: on the podcast. They had a conversation. What I found

818
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: interesting though, was that it slipped under me. It slipped

819
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: right through. I didn't even peep it that man, you

820
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 1: know what? The they were talking about each other right then,

821
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: they was already having issues or feeling the way right then,

822
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: far as say, man, you you didn't start that like

823
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: you something? And you know, I may feel like I'm something.

824
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm doing the hell of a thing. And how you know,

825
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: I don't never say don't feel like you? You know

826
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: what I mean? You post to feel like you that

827
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: you know so, But when your friends think that you

828
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: you're changing and this and that. Dude, you address that

829
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I addressed that I'm not sure. I

830
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: addressed when people think, hey man, he changing. I don't

831
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: feel like an old explanation of for evolving. I think

832
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 1: anything that's not evolving is dead. I just gotta keep

833
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: it moving. You know what I'm saying. How you feel

834
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: about what I got going on? I can't let that

835
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: way too much at a certain point because I don't

836
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: have it. I don't have any luxury with my time,

837
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: seeing that I gotta be present and involved with everything

838
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: concerning me. I've yet to learn how to juggle these

839
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: things in a way where I still got time to

840
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: keep keying co con, I don't got time to for

841
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: I don't have time. I'm sorry, right, And I don't

842
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: have time to entertain you saying I'm great. I don't

843
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: have time to entertain you saying I'm not great. I

844
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: don't have time to entertain anything you're talking about. I

845
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 1: only have time to keep my head under water swimming

846
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: and come up for an hour and go back in

847
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: because I'm here as someone right, So I don't think

848
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: I address it now. With that being said, if business

849
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: is involved with these two friends. Do I address it? Now?

850
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: This is where it gets sticky if you look at

851
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: them like hired help. Now you don't address it. I

852
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: can't get anybody to sit there. Man, you know, I

853
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: can't get anybody to sit there. And so you you,

854
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: you know, you ask yourself, does he look at him

855
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: like hi? Help? Let's listen to a little bit of

856
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: what happened right and and how they was talking. Just

857
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: pay attention to how they're talking to each other. Though

858
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: that's kind of grimy, but I think that every I

859
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: think everybody kind of has that thought. Now, what you

860
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: do to that point and not thist that becomes That

861
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: defines leadership because when you treat people as your partner,

862
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: that you build something much different. They're not going to

863
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: care about certain expenses about shit, because we're in this together.

864
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: We win together, we lose together. That's the point of partners.

865
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: When I'm now an employee or just a contractor where

866
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: I get a fee, Now I'm gonna behave like a contractor.

867
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: But this up there podcast me and how things and

868
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: expenses are moved within my salary and how it affects me.

869
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to make an uproar out of ship. If

870
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: I if I'm a partner in something now, it's cool.

871
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: Everything here affects us. Know, if you fuck something up,

872
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: it fucks me up. If I fux something up, it

873
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: sucks you up. So we all move as a unit.

874
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: When you do that, I'm now the leader god thing.

875
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: And again, this has nothing to do with us or Gilly.

876
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: When the nigga say this has nothing to do with us,

877
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: it has something to do with them. So you see,

878
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: I am now the leader god thing. They've already separated

879
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: themselves from him. And he did take position of his situation,

880
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: but did he do it in a way that was

881
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: fair to people that built it with him? I think

882
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: that's why you never see Ba the academics disrespect academics

883
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: because he knows what I've been telling y'all for a

884
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: couple of years. Academics handed him half of his fan base.

885
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: There's no way to debate that, right, So he shows

886
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: academics a certain level of lords it. Right. With that

887
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: being said, with Rory being your best friend or one

888
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: of your close friends, how you guys presented it, and

889
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: plus being in business with you, I think that you

890
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: should have neutralized those two fighting at such a high level. Dog.

891
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: These dudes was taking shots at each other. That was

892
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: just you see what I'm saying. That was gut wrenching,

893
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And for you to be

894
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: in the middle of that and not care enough to

895
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: step in and say, well hold on man, like yo.

896
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: I love both of you dudes, you know act If

897
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't for you, I wouldn't have this fan base

898
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: I have, and Rory you my friend, and we build

899
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: something you know that the fans love and enjoy, then

900
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: there's a different thing. It should be a different outcome

901
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: for that situation. And then you got Rory. That's in

902
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: mall too. That's basically saying, hey, man, once you take

903
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: the the the forefront, once you jump out in front

904
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: of this situation, when you grabbed the wheel and say, hey, listen,

905
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: you now are passengers and I'm the driver of this thing.

906
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: And I told y'all. He let them know that what

907
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: the name changed the Joe Budden podcast. He probably came

908
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: to them and said, this is attached to a bag.

909
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: They're saying that if I can do it like this,

910
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: I can sell them my profile and we can get

911
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: this amount. Right. So this puts him in a situation

912
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: to use his name for what his word. You see

913
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you hear him man Mall saying,

914
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: hey man, you're starting to act like you this big

915
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: ceo and this and that they're feeling away, but he's

916
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: now hired them. He turned his friends and the hired employees.

917
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: And one thing about Charlemagne, I can say his people

918
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: seem to be happy. The people that's around Charlemagne, they

919
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: seem to be happy, and they seem to be eating.

920
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: So Joe Broughten, you know, we gotta not now disregard like, Okay,

921
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: let's keep weighing this up because you want to wear

922
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: it up when when you go get a deal somewhere.

923
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: We got to weigh this thing up all of us.

924
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: We gotta put every each one of us on the

925
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: scale and say, hey, what are you doing? What is

926
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: people like? How they're feeling? Are they paid well? Are

927
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: they complaining? It's his friends? How does his wife feel?

928
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: Does his family love them, do they appreciate them? Does

929
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: this woman honor him? But when you grab a magnifying

930
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: glass and you look behind the good talking on the podcast,

931
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: and then everybody in your real life has some sort

932
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: of issue with you, right, some sort of gripe or

933
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: some sort of negative bad story or bad experience with

934
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: you if it's not surrounding what you right, So it's

935
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: it's Charlemagne seems to be healing a bit. When you

936
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: look at Charlemagne, he seems to have a wife that's

937
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: put up and happy. He seems to have children. His friends,

938
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: they smile, they're happy, they get opportunity. Wax seems to

939
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: be in a great place. Du Valls in a great spot.

940
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: Shots is doing well, you know, like I tell you, guys,

941
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: Charlemagne the same way academics handed Joe Button his fan base,

942
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: Charlemagne handed Andrew Schultz forty thirty forty percent of his

943
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: fan base. And there's just no way to debate these things.

944
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: But this is what it takes in this kind of game,

945
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: the sharing of the information and the access to the audience.

946
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: This is what if you really want to see your

947
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: friends eat, that's what you do, right. So some people

948
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: can say, hey, man, Joe gave him access to the audience.

949
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: What the podcast, But it's under certain guidelines, right, those

950
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: guidelines are And then you gotta always remember this, Joe

951
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: Button is playing the game for himself. So he always

952
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: puts it out. I don't like talking to niggas. Yeah,

953
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: but man, I'm am I like I like kicking it

954
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: with niggas, Like I want to bring such and such

955
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: up and let him kick some shit and we talk

956
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: about some of this current ship that's going on a Rory, Yeah, man,

957
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: but I want to put emotional orange on here something

958
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: and we want to wrap about something, talk about why

959
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: it took so long and what we was really doing

960
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: and how much the project meant. Right. So when you

961
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: make those kind of decisions like we're gonna build this

962
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: podcast and we ain't talking to nobody now Joe Budden's profile,

963
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: you can operate in this industry that way. Mall can't.

964
01:01:55,280 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: Rory can't. They can't even leverage their podcast, and probably

965
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: they can't come say hey, Loan, I just met you. Man,

966
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you on the show, and then go

967
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: tell Joe, Yo, we're putting Loan on for thirty minutes

968
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: with us man about these three topics. They can't do that.

969
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: Joe can do that. Joe can say, Yo, man, I

970
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: ran into this dude that does big coin, brilliant guy.

971
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna get him, mom. Man, he gotta get in boom.

972
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: It's done right. So it's just man, I think they'll

973
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: get back together, but I think ultimately it's the beginning

974
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: of the end of it. I don't fort see it,

975
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: and we you know, I wish everybody the best with

976
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: everything that they do, but I don't foresee it ever

977
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: being the same because you're smacking them in the face.

978
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: You're smacking them in the face, and I just don't

979
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: see it being the same. But let's listen to them.

980
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: If I did't see any of it, so I'm not

981
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: gonna speak on it because I didn't see it. But

982
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: it changes because now, all right, if you want to

983
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: treat me that way, I find we'll go to the

984
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: gilf you want to if you want to treat it

985
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: that way. If you want to treat that, yeah, it's

986
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: it's time for you to act like the ballship you're

987
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: pretending or are, and pay up on them fucking expenses. Bro,

988
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: we're not partners anymore. I came in on a fifteen

989
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: percent let me be your partner. I didn't I wouldn't

990
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,919
Speaker 1: give a fuck about those expenses. Now I care about

991
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: them because now I'm just some fucking contractor to you.

992
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: Pay invoice. The only thing I don't like about what

993
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: Rory is saying, and I do believe that that's true

994
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: in podcast world, is that I don't feel like the

995
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: when when people get up and go to work, like

996
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: we get up and we go to work. No, we're

997
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: not talented work, but we're contracting past and because it's work,

998
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: we don't be pressing them like we should about shit

999
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: because we're just at work. Contractors tell me more. They're

1000
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: not exactly the same. If I'm a hired contractor, and

1001
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: even to an employee, to some certain degree, the inner

1002
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: workings of how you move expenses around is not my business.

1003
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: Yet it's not my business. I'm an employee. You pay

1004
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: me a salary. Whatever we make as a company, I

1005
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: make the same. I make seventy five rand a year.

1006
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: It's never going to change unless I get a raise,

1007
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: of promotion or work off commission. That's not to some

1008
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: degree because you're hiring me for a specific service. I

1009
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: don't get benefits from your company. I don't. It's it's

1010
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: it's a bit different. I have more of a loyalty

1011
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: to how you run your business corrector you're hiring me

1012
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: for a specific service and in. Let's say dev's shit here.

1013
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 1: If I'm a contractor, you used my place, you hired

1014
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: me as a contractor to use my studio. I gave

1015
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: you a service. Pay for the fucking service. He went

1016
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: in there saying, I on a percentage. Make me a

1017
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: partner to some degree. Whatever you to find a partner,

1018
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: make me a partner. But I'm not gonna give a

1019
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: talk about the expense because we're all in this together.

1020
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm bringing this as a partner. This

1021
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: is a resource I have, it's a studio. I'm not

1022
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: gonna charge you for for expenses. That's that's part of

1023
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: we're partners. But now I'm a contractor. Fuck you. You

1024
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: hired me for a service. Pay your fucking expenses, boss.

1025
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: See that. So he basically letting them know it's somewhere

1026
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: along the lines that you change the game plan. Somewhere

1027
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: along the lines you change the game plan. We was

1028
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: lied for a million, We was lied for me and

1029
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: then we somewhere and you're telling me it doesn't the

1030
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: show isn't none of my business. When things didn't look

1031
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: so bright, when Complex let you go right or before

1032
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: you even got what complex it was, lie familiar partners ours.

1033
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: We're in in our thing, this thing of ours. Somewhere

1034
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: along the lines, though, these guys feel like you changed

1035
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: the game plan. That's why mar asked you live on

1036
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: out man, Like you're serious, bro, you're gonna tip me

1037
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: the podcast ain't none of my business? Bro, And he's like,

1038
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: is it your business? In a contract that we have

1039
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: five years ago, he wouldn't have said that. Picture picture fire, Marissa,

1040
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: Picture fire, Marissa. You get Mall there and then you

1041
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: tell them this is none of your business. He wouldn't

1042
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: have done that. Does that mean that he needed all

1043
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but he may not even know his

1044
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: own strength back then. Nonetheless, though, operating without the information,

1045
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: it is just like being dumb in my opinion, So

1046
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: you didn't know it. So that means you, in your

1047
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: mind you needed these guys or Mall and in Rory,

1048
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: somebody's been there since the first episode, so probably helped

1049
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: book the ship, you know what I'm saying. So I

1050
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: can see how people can fill away. But if you

1051
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: pay attention to when this happened, this is why you

1052
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: hear million dollars worth a game and Joe Budden and

1053
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: Charlemagne and Sholtz and academics and people take shots at

1054
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: Joe them because typically the outlook of the situation bleeds

1055
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: Stu on the mic for Joe when he like when

1056
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: he got a problem with Charlomagne, it bleeds through the mic.

1057
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: When something happens, it just bleeds through. You can feel it.

1058
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: Something's going on with him and Charlomaine. Or he won't

1059
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: mention this, like every time million dollars worth a game

1060
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: come up, he never mentions it. He always acts like

1061
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 1: he forgets the name of these shows. Dog, How can

1062
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: you be a digital forecaster but not know the name

1063
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: of anything? It just I know he knows the name

1064
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,839
Speaker 1: of these shows. It's just a game. I'm not promoting

1065
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 1: that like this is the game we play, unfortunately, but

1066
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 1: Moor's right here, like, yo, man, my whole outlook changed

1067
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: when you're calling me a contractor on a podcast and

1068
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: you put some more niggas in the seat, highly disrespectful.

1069
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: He said, no, yeah, but that's what I'm saying. And

1070
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: sometimes you know, saying that no will fuck the pack

1071
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: up though, well, you know that's the thing, trying to

1072
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: cut corners and you're trying not to. You know, you

1073
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: don't want to pay this and to keep this here

1074
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: about sucking the pack up more like you were you

1075
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: you should because sucking the pack up now you you

1076
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 1: fuck your money up. And that's the part niggas don't

1077
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: want to talk about because you can try to take

1078
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 1: out and do this and do the olds moving around

1079
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: and then when you start to see that after this

1080
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: and ain't coming, ain't no more, biggas, ain't you remix

1081
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: the pack too much? That depends on how you value

1082
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: how you value the pack, right, because back to the

1083
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: bar stool, call me daddy shit. I mean, if I

1084
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 1: take my brain out of it, if you know this

1085
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: is this is him talking about the It's night ship

1086
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 1: before it even happening, like you remixing the pack this

1087
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: and that, this is mom trying to leverage. Now tell him, man,

1088
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: you need us quick playing with that. Call me to

1089
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: call me daddy hosts co host maybe I cup podcast

1090
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 1: all my grievances at the time of renegotiation because they

1091
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,799
Speaker 1: were close to the end twenty twenty one, their contract

1092
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: was up. We're in twenty twenty We damn me out

1093
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: of this ship. I might might have kept, but they

1094
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: took a stand. Right and now bars it's Barstool's job

1095
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: to come up with that show. Yes, the packets fucked

1096
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: up because those were the girls that they were the pack,

1097
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: but Barstool owns it, so they have but the remix

1098
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 1: the pack or let the brand die, right, Same with

1099
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: Gilly Homeboy leaves. Yeah the pack ain't the same, but

1100
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: maybe Gilly knows that as he's trying to fix it.

1101
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 1: But it's up there podcast. Yeah, I mean I would

1102
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: hope so. But at the same time as it worth

1103
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: it rem No, it's not remixing the pack don't usually

1104
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 1: be worth it. It's a headache. Yeah, it's a headache.

1105
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: It's not letting them know. We gotta keep it going. Baby,

1106
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: y'all leave right now. You got to keep moving out

1107
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: own it and it's not a good it's not in

1108
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: good business to have to rebrand every year. It's not

1109
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 1: It's just that says something about says with someone that's

1110
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 1: not only on their personality but also deals with the

1111
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: technical side and past, right, it's just not Listen. Me

1112
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: and Rory had a lot of conversations and a lot

1113
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 1: of sleepless nights when uh Marissa party ways, it wasn't

1114
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: wasn't a fun months it's a lot that goes into

1115
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: coming up with that type of shiite, and you want

1116
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: to be responsible with putting someone on your platform, which

1117
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 1: reminds me, this is the only person that got fired

1118
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: for me twice when podcast my assistant. Oh I didn't

1119
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: know she was your assistant. Yes, as soon as you

1120
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,560
Speaker 1: fell in love, it was fine. Um, all right, that's it.

1121
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: That's all I got. I just I just bring it

1122
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: up because there are a lot of people starting podcasts

1123
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: between their Gillian Man, have somebody else. Oh he's going,

1124
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: he's going. Oh, okay, he's going. He's pursuing his other passions.

1125
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: Uh and shout outs to death. You know, we don't,

1126
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 1: I don't. We don't want to paint him, never that

1127
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: because he so graciously and so professionals to wallow shouts together,

1128
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: shout out, shout out to that, shout out to that

1129
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: whole camp. Uh. And I just hope anything right. Yeah,

1130
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 1: they replaced dev I can't I can't say another on

1131
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: their personality within a month. I kind of catch up.

1132
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: I can't say if it's for better or for worse.

1133
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: But they have a new pack they have a new packer.

1134
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: M hm. If I'm dead, I'm not with this up

1135
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 1: there podcast. Well, that'd be the unfortunate shit tricky because

1136
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:43,600
Speaker 1: because sometimes it don't even fall into the money, it

1137
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 1: falls into your morals and ego. But that's what that's

1138
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: where it hurts the most, Like fuck the bread, Like,

1139
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're making, nor do I care

1140
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: that's their pockets. But you were saying the seventy thousand

1141
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: base salary. Great, that's that's a that's a lot of

1142
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: money to make I feel like, yeah, he there like na,

1143
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: that doesn't settle right with me. I mean, people doesn't

1144
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: seem like fifteen doesn't see it's only three of them

1145
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 1: right to me, there's only three of them on air, right,

1146
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: I don't know who's getting part of what. I don't

1147
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: know what what he has offered that podcast, so I

1148
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: can't speak to that. Well people miss him well, I know,

1149
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't mean just I don't mean just personality. I

1150
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 1: mean how the how it functions because people people grew

1151
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,600
Speaker 1: to love and support that, so naturally people will miss that.

1152
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,879
Speaker 1: I wanted to miss that Elementum. I want to encourage

1153
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: all podcasters out there to have a clear and concise

1154
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 1: understanding with the people that which is a very tough ask,

1155
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 1: and that's a really tough ask. So he's saying, he's

1156
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: saying that you hear what he just said, but just

1157
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: basically saying, but what we don't have it. That's what

1158
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 1: they're saying. Listen to it. Same thing happens to music

1159
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 1: because people fell in love with that. People grew to

1160
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 1: check out what he's saying. Now just check. Actually, people

1161
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: will miss that element. I want to encourage all podcasters

1162
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 1: out there to have a clear and concise understanding with

1163
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: the people that you do the podcast with, which is

1164
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 1: a very tough mask, and that's a really tough ask.

1165
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: Is it same thing happens to music. Explain it? Explain

1166
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: it to me. Understand how it happens in music. I

1167
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: can see how that happens because in music business things,

1168
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 1: business conversations happen very casually, especially when you don't know

1169
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: that it's a business conversation happening with podcasting, though, Is

1170
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 1: that really like that? No, You're you're asking anytime money

1171
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: is involved, just like that, you ask, I don't care

1172
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: what you're doing. If they time money is in play,

1173
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: it happens, absolutely, Yeah, you're asking. Well, those difficult questions

1174
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: ever to deal with people, and then to deal with

1175
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: people within your own money and business and deal with egos.

1176
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 1: That's life. That's why I go ahead. But that's why

1177
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 1: it's so important to praise uh people that are very

1178
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 1: successful and uh their business is intact, because that's it's

1179
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 1: not easy. It's not easy to be successful and for

1180
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: your business to be intact. And when you see people

1181
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: moving with theirs on the same accord, like, you have

1182
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 1: to salute that because the moment, the chemistry of everything

1183
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: changed before I think before I think, before money came

1184
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: with us, I think I might have said to y'all, hey,

1185
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 1: when we get some money, I want more than y'all.

1186
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: He probably definitely said that. That might have been the

1187
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: absolute that might have been that total was about title

1188
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 1: that I know. It's not about title, total an argument

1189
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,759
Speaker 1: total the blow up one we didn't have an episode.

1190
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: It was like the first time we ever missed an

1191
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 1: episode in like three years. That happened. Yeah, their podcasts

1192
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 1: the episode we did. You drove it was sped off

1193
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 1: in your car. It was a it was about set

1194
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: the fuck up. It was about it wasn't title. It's

1195
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 1: about money. What's about money. That's why No, I didn't

1196
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: explain with Gilly and all of them. We didn't explain

1197
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 1: it that we just took a week off. We just

1198
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 1: took an episode over here, explain and I sped on

1199
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: oh man, and we was only doing one episode a

1200
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: week then. So usually like a chick pulling off in

1201
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: like a v VW bug like, That's how I visualized it.

1202
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: I always make it a point to speed on fast

1203
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 1: from you guys whenever we're having a tiff, because you

1204
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: guys are gonna gang up on me, so I have

1205
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: to have to pull off fast. I started gag. We're all, no,

1206
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: this is what I mean. If we're all supposed to

1207
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: part ways now and y'all standing there for twenty more minutes,

1208
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: I can assume that. How would you know? No, you

1209
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: can tell what niggas about to get out of here,

1210
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 1: or when niggas is sitting around chilling for manuck out

1211
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 1: of here. I not, no, not one part of it

1212
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 1: must have been really wrong from what I remember, you were,

1213
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 1: but you took you were. I just don't remember what

1214
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 1: it was. There's any way to tell me without telling

1215
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: the fans. I actually know. I think it was high

1216
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 1: line money. It was no, no, no, no, it was

1217
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: petty for sure, but it was a look at us.

1218
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 1: Let's know, this is part of this conversation which we

1219
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 1: have to make it just about us, but having those

1220
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: early arguments even when it's about busting down to so

1221
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: they just they just put you in, you know, put

1222
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 1: you in the mad frame of that. I've seen what

1223
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: Meek Miller was having a birthday part of a whole

1224
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 1: bunch of you know, celebration in Miami, and he made

1225
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 1: sure Takashi six nine was banned. People came out and

1226
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 1: kind of tried to clown them for that. I say this,

1227
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: you can't do right in certain blogs as you push

1228
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: up on them, you know. Then they said, well, he

1229
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: shouldn't even been there, man, he shouldn't allow them to

1230
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: be that. And then he don't allow them to be that,

1231
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 1: and then that's still wrong. It's a weird place they

1232
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: got Meek Medling. It's a weird place they got Meek Medling.

1233
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see how the how the album

1234
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: and things perform, because they got him in a very

1235
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 1: interesting place, you know, someone we got to pay attention

1236
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: to for real, because they're trying to make it look

1237
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: a certain way. Every certain little things like with the

1238
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 1: Kobe thing with the dish with the day, you know,

1239
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 1: um dealing with Pop Smoke. They have him his court

1240
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:51,560
Speaker 1: case going on RP. Pop Smoke said, there's some inconsistencies

1241
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: and what the jury, I mean, what the the case

1242
01:18:56,160 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 1: outcome is shown. They're saying that number one, it looks

1243
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: like they got the fifteen year old just gonna take

1244
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,560
Speaker 1: the fall for you know what I'm saying. And sometimes

1245
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: that's that's how this this coach goes. You know, if

1246
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: you're the youngest one and you're here and we are

1247
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 1: facing life, they might give you fifteen, teen twelve, something

1248
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 1: like that. And sometimes people real enough to do that.

1249
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 1: It's that's what is that? What's happening? I don't know.

1250
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 1: It's not me. It's not for me to know. So

1251
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I do know that's an interesting

1252
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 1: way to look at it because they say to do

1253
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: fifteen and he the one pulled the trigger. He the

1254
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: one went into the house. He didn't want to put

1255
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: the strap on. The the oldest nigga that was in

1256
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 1: the car, he just drove. He told him not to

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Speaker 1: shoot nobody. He didn't go in. He didn't. It don't

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Speaker 1: really kind of seem a little funny, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. So just crazy looking at that and listening

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Speaker 1: to that. You know it's unfolding, you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: an unfolding case in court that you know they look

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Speaker 1: at that, and I haven't necessarily seen nothing like it.

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Speaker 1: I do know that they city kicked him, and they

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Speaker 1: kick Nipsey, So I'm not sure what the kicking thing is,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I always say, you

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Speaker 1: got to really hate a man to kick a man

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Speaker 1: after you didn't shot him. I'm already you They're not

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Speaker 1: already done. The worst thing you can do to me

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Speaker 1: now you got to kick me. You got that little

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Speaker 1: respect for men? You know That's why I say it's

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Speaker 1: a dirty game, man, This game here dirty man. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling my dirty for show for show. I'm telling men

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Speaker 1: that they ain't nowhere around it. You can't do number

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Speaker 1: me force with force. You must never play man. Anybody

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Speaker 1: that ever needed information from me in two thousand and

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Speaker 1: twenty one, how this is looking. You can't play no game, man,

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Speaker 1: because they're gonna do you something bad, and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: leave you there and they might kick you. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, so just you gotta just stay on

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Speaker 1: your p's and Q. But we're watching the case. We'll

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Speaker 1: see what happened. It's with it. I'm not sure what

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Speaker 1: will happen, but I'm definitely, definitely will be tuned in

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Speaker 1: to try to make sure, you know, just learn from it,

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Speaker 1: get some information from it. Um and and and and

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Speaker 1: just uh that's the last resemblance that we'll get of

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Speaker 1: what happened that night Pop Smokes took um. If you

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Speaker 1: listen to this point, man, I want to thank you.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like I said, get you

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Speaker 1: well as be a part of the live audience. So

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Speaker 1: we definitely appreciate you. If you want to come out,

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Speaker 1: just chill out, get you a few drinks or something,

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Speaker 1: you know, sit back and just here dope conversation about

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