WEBVTT - REPLAY - Marsha Ambrosius 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:10.160 R and B Money, Honey, we are thanks take valati. 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:13.920 We are the authority on. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:16.040 R and B. 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:22.800 Ladies and gentlemen, money is tank This, my friend, Come on, 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:26.200 is the R and B Money podcast. This is the 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:30.560 authority on all things R and B. 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:35.720 What then, is your accent hurd on? My friend? 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:38.479 Be careful, my friend, what you asked for? Because you 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:43.800 know it's a flow in my spirit. Show is going 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:45.280 to have a certain flow today. 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:51.240 Come on mate, you know mate, come on, bro. The 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.960 whay you try to organize this thing as it flows? 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:55.360 Is it is? 0:00:55.400 --> 0:01:00.920 It reaches your spirit and your inside it. It kind 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:06.160 of models poetry. Yeah, yes, it does flow so well. 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.200 It flows so well. They flows so well, and you 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:12.520 put it to Coulin. It's like a floatid kind of thing. 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:19.640 Ladies and gentlemen, it just got expensive. It's just the 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:24.000 level of gift has gone to the stratusphears and outer 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:31.200 fears and galaxies that we've never seen. I'm just excited 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.720 to be here to to talk to this young lady 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.480 who's just one of the most talented human beings I've 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:38.639 ever seen in my life. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.160 Thank you her name. 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.080 Let's see her name correctly because it deserves reference. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:53.840 Marcia Ambrosious, amazing, amazing. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:59.520 One most time to me, Ambrocious said Ambrocious. Okay, so 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:05.440 some people do say Ambrosius, right, then it's Ambrosious. I 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.760 don't even know how to pronounce my own name anymore. 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.680 I've heard it back to me so many times wrong. 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.400 How did you were born? 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.760 When I was born, Darling, I came out of the 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:24.040 womb and they said, this is Marcia Ambrosius. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:29.120 Ambrosius, Ambrosius, ambros When I got to America was like, 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:35.600 what's up Martia Ambrosious or Ambrose or Ambarrose or ambro Ambrosias. 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:40.360 Like a z I kind of like Marcia amburrows. 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.360 I was referred to us, not even Marsha Ambrose. Oh, 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:53.680 they go Marcia amber Ambarrosia amberrows. I just left it, 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.800 you know what. Being in Philadelphia that long, it was 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:03.000 what it was. But I love it, Ambrosios with your 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.640 wonderfully awful British accent. 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.160 Well, are a lot of things I don't do, so 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:10.239 I like to put all of them on display. 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:12.200 This is why we. 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.880 Hear what's up? 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:15.200 Guys. 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:24.800 I feel like like you're like you're like one of 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:29.040 the rare artists, one of the rare entities where you've 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:33.639 that you've been able to maintain a mystique about you, 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:38.440 But every time your name is brought up, it's like 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.720 a real thing. Still to this day. 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:43.280 It's lovely to hear. 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:49.280 I mean, you're you've, you've your your imprint, and I 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.240 think it's it's it's because you're wonderfully talented, it's because 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.960 you're an awesome human being. But you're very distinct in 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.280 how you approach all of it, like it's very much yours. 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:02.720 I've been in intent. My intentions have always been to 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:07.360 do just that. I think I've been such a unique 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:11.160 individual in this very when I say urban space, in 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:16.240 our R and B field. Unfortunately, on one side, it's 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:20.440 been deemed as one thing, one toned, it's this box. 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.320 And then you try and do that one thing that 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.880 makes you outstanding, and you're seeing how long that can sustain, 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.760 and you're like, Okay, how long can I get away 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:35.840 with being myself before I'm then forced into having to 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:38.840 fine tune this thing that people are grasping towards. Because 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.200 what R and B has been the driving force of 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:45.800 our space for however long, And it's wild that I 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:49.400 remember doing my first solo project with late nights and 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:53.200 early mornings, and I had so many gems in the cut, 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:54.560 and I'm like, oh, I can't wait to put this 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:58.599 record out. And there's this one thing I hope she 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:04.880 cheats on you basketball player, which playing basketball my entire 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.240 life just felt like a funny little joke, a little 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.400 free STYLI did on what was it ustream we used 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.920 to have at the time, freestyled it on, and that's 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:15.920 the thing that takes off, not far Away, not Sour Times, 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:20.760 not Lose Myself, not any other record. The Ratchet one 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:25.200 the outlandish statement, and I was like, hmm, I see 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.839 R and B and hip hop doing this fusion thing 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:32.240 where the shift is about to happen and people are 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.320 going to go ratchet, and there's nothing that we can 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:38.640 do other than hold onto the reins and still try 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:41.800 and find yourself within it. But coming from a space 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:45.080 of I've been able to say what the fuck I 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:49.520 want for so long, it's I should be able to 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:50.400 say what the fuck. 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.239 I want, absolutely absolutely know. 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.000 But you have to stand on that in R and 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.800 B and some people have a way of doing it 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:04.000 where anyone can sing your song and there's no uniqueness 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.160 to it. It's just a good song and anyone can 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.560 sing it, name an artist, give it to them. But 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:13.839 then there's me, and there are very few people that 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:15.520 are just going to say, Okay, I'm going to sing 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:20.159 a Marsha song because it's such a signature, it's so unique, 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.800 even if it's even if it's oh, I'm trying to 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.560 touch on this little thing that I think R and 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:30.440 B is for a joke. I hope she cheats. I 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.400 hope she chooses the most ratchet thing I think I 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:40.480 did with my space in all of its uniqueness. 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:43.719 I mean, or is it just like or is it 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.320 just the truth? It's just real. 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.359 I'm saying ratchet coming from me, where people are like, 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:54.720 oh my god, Marsha like say yes, Marsha, like you know, 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:56.800 so it's it's the difference. 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.719 And maybe we may look at it because we know 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:00.760 you exactly get it differently. 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:01.039 You know. 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.080 It didn't surprise me, of course. 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:08.440 In the record, I'm like, you know, she feel a 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:09.640 way about these lebrons. 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.920 I'm a little better, just a little better. I'm doing 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.720 better now. And that was the song, and you know, 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.240 but it was still very much R and B. 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.280 Absolutely, It's called the truth. 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:25.600 And that's what R and B is. 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:26.680 It's just the truth. 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.000 You can interpret how it should be. 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.840 The truth ru the truth, and that's the uniqueness that 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:35.320 stands the test of time. 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.600 And I feel like I can stand on saying that 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:43.360 I've done so for twenty plus years now. That's crazy 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:49.920 to say that you've sustain that. But in also praising 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:53.040 what this platform is as well, you and I have 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:58.640 brushed shoulders that entire time. That's insane to go into 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.920 this being well not front row. I've only got like 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.920 third row tickets to your concerts. I couldn't. It was 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:06.480 sold out by the time I was getting this, So 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.560 we've got freebie got in anyway. So there, I am 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:15.600 a tank your lungs and I'm a fan. And then 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:20.240 coming into it, we're sharing stages together. Absolutely, so not 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:23.040 saying your age or nothing. You've been doing this one, 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:28.480 but it's like to do that in our field and 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:32.480 really claim to not only have made R and B money, 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:38.440 still making R and B money, still have R and 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.320 B money. There's a big difference in that because in 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.480 our field, a lot of money is. 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.320 I just play private school tuition, so I don't really 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.200 get too much R and b money left this week. 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.840 The fact that you can say that you had it 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:56.080 to give that up, I know what that is. 0:08:55.640 --> 0:09:05.480 It hurts that I got a pond this ship. You can. 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:07.080 It will? 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.440 I hate it. No, we're not claiming that we're actually 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:17.360 going to stand on businesses, say that we make and 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:21.040 still have and laugh about the luxury of kids in 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:25.680 private school because of what we've done for two plus 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:32.960 decades now, that's insane and incredible. More to come. I 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:36.679 haven't written my best song yet, talk about loads of them. 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:40.760 I can write so much more like and Will. There's 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.440 too much life to be had. It's too many memories 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:47.360 to make. And just to see the reaction from people 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:50.679 in the audience listening to these songs that we made 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.280 over that course of time, and it resonated in a way. 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:59.079 It's powerful and I respect that power, which is why 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:04.160 I've only leave so much like I've actually contained, because 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:11.840 it's a responsibility. You're responsible for someone's happiness, heartache, love, life, hate, 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:14.720 just through the songs that we make. It is a 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:19.079 responsibility and I do take it seriously. It's terrible, but. 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:24.640 It should be. Though not My. 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.439 Music isn't for play play like don't play it. If 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.360 you don't mean it, like you want to one night 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:34.520 stand and you want to play a Marsha record, it 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:35.959 might turn into forever. 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:42.840 Listen, I can think you know what, no whit? 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:49.000 I have a wife? What are we doing? How do let's 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:53.880 go back to the beginning. When does when does someone say? 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:57.199 And in the beginning, give me give me the birthplace 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.440 of of your unique self. 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:07.320 Having a crush on the guy that worked in McDonald's 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:12.560 in Campbewell, London, England, South London. He was a friend 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:16.960 of a kid that lived down the street. His name 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.600 was Mark. I don't even know his friend's name. I 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:24.240 just knew that he had the old school brown McDonald's uniform, remember, 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:28.480 like the shitty brown with the hat and the clean 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:37.880 pressure like that McDonald Like I have, not the big mac. 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:43.720 But so my school was within five minutes walking distance. 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:47.880 McDonald's was like seven minutes the opposite direction. I didn't 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.400 need to be over there, but would go over there 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:56.959 and to stand outside the window salivating over well the cheeseburger, 0:11:57.000 --> 0:12:02.720 but him as well. And this song I wrote in 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.760 my head at the time was called Gonna Get You, 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:10.680 So I was out to get it like like it 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.400 was cooled gonna get you. Like I was walking down 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:17.360 the road, saw your face. It was so terrible. You 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.560 looked at me, Yeah, you were away. It was like 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.560 really corny, really cheesy, but the. 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:27.760 Core of it amaz of it. 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.760 Twelve thirteen year old Melody. Years go by. Now I'm 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:36.280 in my teens, teens, teens where feelings are true feelings. 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:42.320 And that turned into Butterflies. So it was I just 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.880 want to touch and kiss, and I wish that I 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:49.120 could be with you tonight. You would be butterflies. So 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.959 I wrote Butterflies about him. 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:53.600 At what age I. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.880 Was like sixteen? I had to be sixteen seventeen because 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.800 I was definitely going to that bust up to get 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:04.600 the thirty five thirty five bus to Brixton to play 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.920 for the Brixton TOPCTS. I was still playing ball at 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:09.880 that time, and I would go to that McDonald's every 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:11.079 single time get the bus. 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.080 How long did he work at that McDonald's. It was 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.040 like three four years he put in time. 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:21.200 I just remember the uniform going from dusty brown to 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.440 you know, the white shirt. So maybe it was flipping 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:29.480 burgers at first and then sweeping the floor like that. 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:39.680 The big exactly. 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:44.200 So butterflies happened from that. So my unique perspective on 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:50.240 seeing this very monotonous scenario come from innocent feelings like oh, 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:52.480 one day I'm gonna get you. I'm gonna get you 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:57.280 to know I have feelings. You give me butterflies, like 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:59.720 all you gonna do is just walk away and pass 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.120 me by. I don't even acknowledge my smile when I 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:07.400 tried to say hello to you. M Yeah, so I 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:13.360 felt that, but really melodically and in composing certain songs 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.920 like that stemmed from my obsession with Jodasy. 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.760 There's always that, yeah. 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:26.120 Like Jodasy has been my reason. Okay, So Prince, Michael Stevie, 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:29.960 no particular order, favorite artists of all time, and they're 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:33.320 like the umbrellas of then everyone else because I can 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.920 say all the other names, they just go in those brackets. Stevie, 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:43.280 every performer, writer, musician, Prince, complete, rock star, abstract in 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:48.760 his own way. Michael was just a fucking star. Yeah, yeah, stars, 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:54.880 legend star of stars, hits of hits, and I loved 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:59.560 them all dearly. I didn't want to make music until 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:05.920 I heard the production of DeVante make music like sit there, figure. 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.520 Out anybody in your family making music though or not dad? 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:08.960 Your dad. 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.600 My dad was a musician and basketball coach, hence me. 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:18.800 So it was him playing bass or league guitar, singing 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:23.080 in a seventies funk band called Supercharge that were actually 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.560 signed to Virgin You know what I'm saying. 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:26.120 I like that. 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.720 When I was born one of that no like Supercharger, 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:36.120 just doing it. So I had that background. And there's 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:39.760 me watching my dad play all these instruments and don't 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.680 touch that, and he, you know, mister miagi me into Okay, 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:44.680 I'm gonna touch it. I'm play this bass real quick, 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:46.640 and play these keys real quick, and play you know. 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:51.640 So the love for music came from just it being 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:57.880 around me. But listening to that Jodicy era, the New 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.960 Jack Swing era, I was like, what I think doing? 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.840 What is this thing? Let me figure out these chords? 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.720 Let me listen to these harmonies? What do you do again? 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:10.600 And then I'm the fifth member of joy Bocally. I 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.960 can find the other harmony in anything like. 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.360 It's insane, Like maybe I was the fifth member. 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:19.160 You think you sick? We can fight, we can fight. 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:24.880 He said that way too confidently. I don't know if 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:26.760 you've met. 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:32.520 You gave yourself a name. Nice to meet you, jay Bones, mister. 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:40.160 Because I'm both mister mister, Yeah, I feel you. 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:42.160 I know there's an episode. 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:49.640 We had and he verified this. Yeah, I don't know 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.360 we actually verified. But other than thanked you for being 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:58.520 so crazeously, I'm kind. But I will say without I. 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:07.280 Don't know if there's a lot of us out. 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:11.240 Here, there's no mesne. 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:19.280 Seriously, I'm going to. 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.080 All right, listen to any one of my songs a 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:25.399 cappella and really hear my harmony arrangements and just know 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.719 where that comes from, so you can claim wherever your 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.919 spot is, I just know from you. 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:33.320 It's all in there. 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.520 All of that influences in there. And my reasons why 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:41.439 to create the way I create stemmed from really picking 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:45.919 apart what that was, and it was from the the interludes, 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:50.080 like the nerve of the interludes. We're just outrageous in 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.760 nineties R and B and to want to carry that 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:59.720 further and keep the integrity of what my R and 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.520 B for me is what I pursued this entire time, 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:06.119 and the longevity in that is why you can sustain that, 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.280 because people want to feel exactly that they want to 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:13.600 fight for their sixth or seventh position that they so 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.480 claim your set. 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:18.520 Don't make me called casey. 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:23.440 I got I'll call the family. I'll call. 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:31.359 Yeah, I'll call this mama. How about that? You love 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.040 you love? I gotta step I gotta step side that. 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:36.480 Okay, So yeah, I might have to bow down. That's 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:37.800 that's that's that's fine. 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:40.439 I say. The worst thing will. 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:44.080 We fighting over twenty thirty years from now? 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:48.200 The worst thing is, don't go to an NBA game 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:48.600 with Tank. 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:54.760 Why every NBA niggas, Mama are the biggest Tank fans 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:56.200 you've ever met in your life. 0:18:56.680 --> 0:19:00.480 It's the craziest. It's the craziest thing in the world. 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.840 I'm like, wait, wait, who mama is that? Oh? You 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.119 know that's that's that's just man. You know I had 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:11.879 to go saying birthday I graduated to that's how he 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.040 Trump's that all arguments. 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:18.480 I call the mom that's not fair. 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:23.760 I get their mama's tickets, their mama's tickets. It's true. 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:25.879 Yeah, there's nothing you can do about that. 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:26.359 Nothing. 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:31.720 So when you were so, when you're going through this 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.760 phase right where you're you're becoming this songwriter and you're 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:37.920 loving the music. You're also playing basketball. 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:39.840 How are you. 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:45.679 Juggling too, because what you're talking about musically is not 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:48.960 a locker room conversation. No, that's not like you're not 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:52.680 taking the Jogsy tapes into the basketball locker room and 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:56.120 y'all talking about the DeVante harmonies in the in the 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:57.120 in the piano. 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:02.120 That was having my well the Walkman at the time, 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.720 which is shaky, juggly cassette tape advancing into the CD. 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.920 It was me with my headphones and all of the teammates, oh, 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:15.760 sing that song again. Sing yeah. So that was my 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:19.600 way of sharing it and then getting the you know, 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.600 still very insecure in that areing and I didn't really 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:26.200 want to be on any stages, didn't want to be seen. 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:31.400 But my teammates your height, sing that again, your wife 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:32.200 you could sing. 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.679 And I'm like you putting in your time. So that 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:35.120 was my. 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:40.679 Very intimate first experience of putting myself out there. So 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:44.679 that was my version of Okay, maybe I'm onto something. 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:48.080 So I wasn't juggling, not according to my dad, who 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:50.360 was very much you're going to be about this possible 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:52.720 life one hundred or you're going to take music seriously 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:58.000 and I didn't take music seriously until I tore ligaments. 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:01.240 Can we get the violins or something that moment, because 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:11.679 it was we got devastating, devastating, it was tragic. Keep on. 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:19.200 I heard the crunch, but America I wasn't. I was 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:23.640 still overseas. I was playing a three on three pickup 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:29.120 game at Elephant and Castle Gym, and we hadn't lost 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:33.080 the game, and I just wanted to play one more game. 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:37.240 We lost the last game and I was like, nah, 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:40.800 I'm not leaving the floor until we win again. Play 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:46.160 music again, played music. So I played that last game, 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:54.760 and I remember receiving the ball. M remember it was 0:21:54.800 --> 0:22:02.160 like yesterday. I went to crossover and as soon as 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:09.480 I hit that pivot crunch, it's like a bricocheted through 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:17.040 the entire gym, and I just want to break down the. 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:30.719 Lord hell me. 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:38.119 Yeah, it was over then, and then you can start now. 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:44.440 So after that, the whole world and no, there's no 0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:45.120 need to get sack. 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:48.400 It's so great with your exity. We're done nothing. 0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:52.919 So that's what happened. It was a movie scene. It 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:58.920 was like slow motion, and I hadn't seen my life 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:21.439 without basket until that morning. Heartbreaking me, crushing, like you 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.280 don't picture your life without the thing that you love 0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:29.760 until you've lost it. So music hobby can listen to 0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:33.760 music all day. My mother's viny collection, outrageous, Go in 0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:37.760 the crib Basketball. I'm up first thing in the morning. 0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:40.320 It's late nights and early mornings for basketball. For me, 0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:45.760 it was practice Monday through Friday, away game, Saturday, home game, 0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:49.520 Sunday repeat. I didn't have a day off, not with basketball. 0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:53.480 And then it's gone, and I was like, Okay, what 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:56.280 am I going to do? I'm going to write about it. 0:23:57.160 --> 0:24:00.280 And I got home, got a diary, got in front 0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:04.000 of my piano, and I wrote the song If I 0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:09.240 Was a Bird, and that was about losing basketball, which 0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:12.159 was then a part of the first Flowtry album. So 0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:16.680 If I Was a Bird stemmed from Michael Jordan's documentary 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:19.520 at the time, Come Fly with Me. I used to 0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:26.160 watch that'll repeat every day day and it was without basketball, 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:29.800 my life is incomplete. So it's like you have me 0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:33.880 caught up in this starry eyed well the dreams, and 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:37.440 it's that one last shot. 0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:45.520 All these songs are about flipping burgers and shooting baskets regular. 0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:51.280 I take the most regular ship, and I make it 0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:57.600 your every day like most of my prolific long jevity 0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:00.280 long game. I want this music to li in the 0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:02.800 space forever. A basic sayings it's what you're going to 0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:04.760 do is say yes, getting late? Why are you going 0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:05.240 to be here? 0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:05.919 Hello? 0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:09.280 How are you? Were you up to nothing? I hope 0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:11.200 you choose on you with a possible player. It's very 0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:14.040 matter of fact, yeah, far away and every minute you're 0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:15.679 going to missing you. So it's going to be a 0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:18.359 late night early morning when I come home. 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:20.880 It just feels like. 0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:30.280 Not not that your universal calling, will you know, make 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:33.359 the floor a little extra slippery at that time, or 0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:37.680 make your shoes stick to the parquet so that your 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:42.080 need goes to Not that, not that it does that, right, 0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:49.640 but your calling has a way of showing itself and 0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:57.120 showing up to where you ultimately don't have a choice. 0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:01.479 I agree with that, and that just comes with what 0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:04.600 is our gift. We can run from it if we 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:07.520 want to, and it's gonna be right there going up. 0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.800 Excuse me. The gift that I gave you, it's time 0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:12.800 for you to give it to the world, because that's 0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:15.560 what you've been blessed with. And regardless of where your 0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.239 headspace is, that what you think this is about to be, 0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.520 this is actually what it is. So even when I 0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:27.199 wanted to quit, like very recently, not quit, I just 0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:32.439 feel like I've completed well. I wanted out of this space. 0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:36.960 It's like Super Mario Brothers. I'm level eight. I jumped 0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:39.520 over the Dragon and Save the Princess. I'm out. Like 0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:42.480 it's done. I don't need to do anymore. There's nothing 0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:47.000 to prove. I wanted to sell a couple million records, 0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:50.560 work with my favorite artists, and I did all of 0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:55.080 the things that should be someone's bucket list very early on, 0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:59.719 like how a song that I wrote about the Doo 0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:05.520