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Speaker 2: Welcome back to this week's episode of the Professional Homegirl Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Ishagarra Ebine here and I hope all is cute now.

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Speaker 2: I am super excited about this week's episode because because

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Speaker 2: we have an update now. Four years ago, my guest

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Speaker 2: shared her raw and emotional journey of discovering that her

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Speaker 2: husband was living a double life yes on the down

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Speaker 2: load in HIV positive. Now she's back with an update

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Speaker 2: on her marriage, her healing journey, and the lessons she

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Speaker 2: learned since our last conversation, so get ready because my

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Speaker 2: husband was on a down low. Part two starts now,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, y'all, this is one of my favorite

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Speaker 2: guests from like four years ago, and we was just

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Speaker 2: keep king and saying how we can't believe it's been

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Speaker 2: four years. So thank you so much for coming back

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Speaker 2: on the show. How you feeling, how you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm well, how have you been? I know, it's been

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Speaker 3: four years so long. I know it seemed so long.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know because I want to start doing

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Speaker 2: a follow up series, and so when I came across

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Speaker 2: your story, I'm like, damn, I can't believe four years

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Speaker 2: went by. Like I remember when we did the first conversation.

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Speaker 3: I remember when, Oh my god, that's seemed so long ago.

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Speaker 3: We had a great conversation then too. It was so wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what did you think about a conversation? Like when

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Speaker 2: you listen back to it, like, how did it make

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Speaker 3: I remember being in that stage and knowing what I

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Speaker 3: was going through and getting the word out. You helped

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Speaker 3: me so much get the word out. I did another

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Speaker 3: podcast with some affection di these doctors because of your podcast,

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Speaker 3: and it just so happened. One of the doctors was

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Speaker 3: my cousin. So she was like, I didn't even know

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Speaker 3: anything about what was going on until I heard the

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Speaker 3: it was very interesting. She's like, I didn't realize how

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Speaker 3: an affectious disease doctor. Her her father, which was my

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Speaker 3: second cousin, passed away actually from HIV, and that's been

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Speaker 3: when I her passion to figure out why and how

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Speaker 3: we can prevent this from happening to so many people.

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Speaker 2: Did y'all know he had HIV?

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Speaker 3: We did, my cousin. He he robbed the bank so

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Speaker 3: die from HIV. Eight Oh wow, And that was her

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Speaker 3: father and my cousin. Now she's doing really good. She

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Speaker 3: So yeah, she does really well. She's here in Georgia

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Speaker 2: How long ago did he rob the bank? Because HIV

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Speaker 2: is so common now, like long time ago. Oh so

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Speaker 2: the time was different.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, this was around probably right after the Vietnam

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So when we first had our conversation, you questioned

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Speaker 3: Yes? And y'all better question it. I'm just saying, Look,

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Speaker 3: I was getting Okay, So my first video went viral. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I got I don't know how many thousands upon thousands

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Speaker 3: the video. They went viral just off my video. Resa

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Speaker 3: Tisa thing happened where she was doing the series on TikTok. Yes,

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Speaker 3: she copied her. She didn't copy her. It happened four

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Speaker 2: I remember I listened back to our conversation because you

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Speaker 2: Because I researched you so thoroughly. Yep, So yeah, I

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Speaker 2: But that was Yeah, I remember Tea because she went

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Speaker 2: It's very common.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly and women.

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Speaker 2: Fact, so you were processing a lot of emotions about

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Speaker 3: No, I was just being naive. I'm not even gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that I did not miss any signs.

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Speaker 3: I definitely should have picked up on. I'm gonna let

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Speaker 3: you definitely need to have him checked. They're not gonna

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Speaker 3: tell you everything. And if so, I've also noticed that

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Speaker 3: So anytime that is happening before you even get married

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Speaker 3: I still do believe, like I said, most men are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I've been to Thailand a couple of

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Speaker 3: And it's nothing wrong with a man being bisexual or

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Speaker 2: And I agree with that. Yeah, what's something you feel

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Speaker 3: Of course, anybody who's ever been in a relationship, any

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Speaker 3: But that doesn't have anything to do what people think

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Speaker 2: Right, just be honest with yourself. Yeah, yeah, so you

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Speaker 2: how did you first suspect something was off in your marriage.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And I have never understood this. You know, I'm

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Speaker 3: I found out he was talking to a transgender female,

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Speaker 3: I was like, well, did he tell you he's married?

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Speaker 2: Like, no, how long? How long have y'all were married for.

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Speaker 3: At that time? Jesus? Maybe a year? Maybe a year?

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, but I have we were dating almost god

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Speaker 5: maybe seven years off and more between the time we got.

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Speaker 3: Actually married and the time we actually first met.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, right, So do you believe it he's your

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Speaker 3: Now? Right? Right?

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Speaker 2: So do you believe that X husband was struggling with

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Speaker 2: You know, me and my homegirl we would just keeping

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, looking back, because I feel like who

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Speaker 3: I've been married three times and I can tell you

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Speaker 3: You don't just give up on your marriage. That's I

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Speaker 3: will never You will never hear me say oh girl

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Speaker 3: that on anybody's marriage, because you don't want nobody to

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Speaker 3: seek that on your word. Yeah, So staying with him

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Speaker 2: So yeah, do you think this husband ever truly love you?

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Speaker 3: No? Absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: More than likely.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Oh wow?

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Speaker 2: And how does that make you feel?

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Speaker 3: I don't care, well, okay, to be honest with you, Okay,

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean not right now till my

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Speaker 3: Oh no, not even back then, No, no, no, with them

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, no, now I was. What really hurt me

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Speaker 2: Have you spoken to them or have they apologized?

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Speaker 3: Oh of course not.

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Speaker 4: Mmm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't care. And I and and that's fine,

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Speaker 3: you know you read with you. So I wish them

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Speaker 3: for people every day, So I don't. I don't have that.

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Speaker 2: Issue, right, And when was the last time you spoke

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Speaker 3: No, I actually dropped him off to his mama house

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Speaker 3: you ain't even caught up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what happened?

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Speaker 3: I tell you what happened? Oh yeah, so let's okay.

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Speaker 3: So I do have a second book coming out, I'm

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Speaker 3: the book. So, oh yes, girl. After I dropped him

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Speaker 3: off to his mama house, my identical twin sister, who's

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna leave it at that.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, keep going, come on, And then what happened?

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Speaker 3: Right, So of course I found out, because I mean,

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Speaker 3: Nothing actually happened. They still live together. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if they continued to sleep with each other or not. Eventually,

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Speaker 3: he was calling me to tell me to take all

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Speaker 2: But he knew you was making the videos. So why

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Speaker 3: Oh, because other people truly care about other people, and

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Speaker 3: you were wrong for doing somebody you supposedly cared about,

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Speaker 3: letting know your wife like that. Maybe some men actually

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Speaker 3: have some integrity and care I had. I haven't talked

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Speaker 3: because he did get out of prison. Okay, so he

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Speaker 2: Oh he's homeless. Oh, I don't know, I don't Oh

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: So when he was sleeping with your one of your

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Speaker 2: I know y'all had a pretty rocky relationship, So what's

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Speaker 3: She's identical points of srap. She ain't going nowhere?

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Speaker 2: R gonna go right?

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Speaker 3: She didn't say anything. She continued to allow it to happen. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Really at that point I was done and over it anyway,

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Speaker 2: Right, So, are y'all divorce?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Was he? No?

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Speaker 4: Mmm?

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Speaker 2: Yeah that is crazy? So how did your like, because

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Speaker 2: I know you have kids, not with him, but like,

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Speaker 2: just to finally see you on the other side, Oh.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, my baby. I really never exposed them

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Speaker 3: So they were kind of in the gist, but they're there.

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Speaker 3: of Honestly, I wasn't focused on that with them. I

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Speaker 3: mean they were fourteen fifteen when it was happening. So,

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Speaker 3: I didn't worry about them as far as my mom

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Speaker 3: because my father's been passed. My mom's never been the

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Speaker 3: her thing is the longest I'm happy, she's happy, right,

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Speaker 3: So the moment she could see that my shoulders draw,

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Speaker 3: I felt better about myself. I was more confident I

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: I saw a video of yours, and that's the reason

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Speaker 2: how he left and then like you was like like

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Speaker 2: Well because of his own action, doesn't blaming yourself for it.

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Speaker 3: I was to be honest with you, and I don't

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Speaker 3: know what video you're talking about. Yeah, I was confused

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Speaker 3: more than anything, because like, I'm the one struggling to

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Speaker 3: you leave me. We did get back together after that video, actually,

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Speaker 3: and then I want to say, COVID happened. We got

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Speaker 3: working and I begged him that day. I was like that,

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Speaker 3: you know, COVID's out here. We finally got your viral

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Speaker 3: levels down. You're doing good. Wear a mask. And I

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Speaker 3: remember he had a shit about wearing this mask that day,

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Speaker 3: and I was done. I was like, you know, this

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Speaker 3: compromise who needs to be careful about getting COVID, and

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Speaker 3: it clicks. You don't care about yourself. But what makes

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Speaker 4: That day, I.

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Speaker 3: Packed his shirt up and I took him to his

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Speaker 3: because that's how you know, you get divorced. You have

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Speaker 3: to communicate your just you know, up in the windspe

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00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 3: stuff you actually have to communicate. But other than that,

436
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 3: like no kind of real, no kind of communications between

437
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 3: me and him.

438
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you feel like you're fully healed from the situation?

439
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: Are you still working on it?

440
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: Definitely still working on it. As far as hell wise,

441
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 3: stars are always gonna remain. I'm always gonna think that

442
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: men are who they are. You're not going to change

443
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 3: that about me. I have been in a fearish relationship

444
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: for now almost four years.

445
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: Oh wow, right now, yes, baby, you waste no time child.

446
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 3: I had a lady ask me one time, She said,

447
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 3: how do you keep getting these men to marry you?

448
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: I can't even get one to ask me to marry them,

449
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 3: and you got three husbands already. I don't know. To

450
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: be honest with you, I'm a strong person. I work hard,

451
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 3: I try hard. I take care of my own I

452
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: take care of my kids. So most men see that potential.

453
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 3: Let me see that driving me, and the first thing

454
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 3: they do is want to wipe you up. Say no, ladies,

455
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: you married right now? Oh? Absolutely not? Okay, no, no, no, no,

456
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 3: no no.

457
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: So is he gonna go to Thailand with you?

458
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 3: Uh no, ma'am.

459
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: So y'all gonna do a long distance relationship?

460
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am until it don't work.

461
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: Do you want it to work? We'll see, child, Yo,

462
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 2: you're a joke. So was there a point Was there

463
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: a time in your like throughout this whole entire situation,

464
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: that you feel like you have to forgive yourself for

465
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: what you put yourself through?

466
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, yeah. That was one of the first parts

467
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: of healing is taking self accountability. If some of us

468
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 3: in this world will take self accountability of our own actions,

469
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 3: we wouldn't hear all these complaints about our new president.

470
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: But I digress, right.

471
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: Right, So if he would have stayed, do you think

472
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 2: that y'all would have still been together?

473
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

474
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 3: If he would have asked, like he had some sense

475
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 3: and cared about himself, of course. Yeah. Like I said,

476
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: I don't. I mean, you don't marry somebody because you

477
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 3: don't care about him or you don't love them, like

478
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 3: that's a bow that you take in front of God

479
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: and in court. That's a document that you signed your

480
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 3: life over to and you just don't. Yeah.

481
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 2: No, yeah, absolutely So looking back since you last time

482
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: you spoke to him was like almost two months ago,

483
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: do you feel like he ever felt like remorseful or

484
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: just guilty about all the shit that he did?

485
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: Oh?

486
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: Of course, of course have you said that.

487
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 3: In more ways than one? Guess? Yeah. Even while he

488
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: was in prison, he would send me money and call

489
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: the check up on me and the kids, and he

490
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 3: would say how sorry he was. And that went on

491
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: for the first at least year year and a half

492
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: he was in prison. And then when the other stories

493
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: from the other creators came out, it was more or

494
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: less can you stop all this stuff on the you know, Internet?

495
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: Like you can't once it's out there. It's out there

496
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: right now because these people are trying to beat me

497
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: up or they're gonna kill me in here or whatever whatever,

498
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: And it's like, well, I mean, sir, sir, I didn't

499
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 3: say nothing that wasn't facts. I mean, you knew I

500
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 3: was putting these videos out then.

501
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like he was in some of

502
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,719
Speaker 2: your videos.

503
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 3: Yes, at least one, at least one.

504
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: Right, So do you believe him when he was apologizing

505
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: the shit?

506
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: No? Absolutely not.

507
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: You didn't believe him?

508
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: Ah wow, no no, no, no, no, no, I don't believe nothing,

509
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 3: not here m hm. You gotta show me right and

510
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 3: seek through action. They don't speak through words.

511
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: That's a fact, a fact. So if you can go

512
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: back and tell your younger self anything before this marriage,

513
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: what would it be?

514
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 3: Can I go back further? Yeah? Oh that I could

515
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: tell my younger self some stuff. Don't have no kids,

516
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: never get married. Make sure you do what you have

517
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: to do for yourself. Finish school. If you don't get

518
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 3: an education, guys, you will be sat here looking crazy

519
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: like the rest of these folks. Get in education. Please

520
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: get an education, y'all be surprised. I've traveled a lot

521
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: since the last time I seen you. Actually. Yeah, my

522
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: son he works for Delta and is becoming a pilot.

523
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: So I travel for free. And I've been to Paris, Argentina, Japan.

524
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: I've been all I've only been to. I have not

525
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: been on Africa and Antarchcard two continents I've never actually

526
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 3: got to go through. Ye. So, and if you know

527
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: anything about traveling and seeing other countries, you know how

528
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: important it is for us to be able to have education. Yeah,

529
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 3: it's a big thing because other countries they don't have

530
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: the opportunity for education like we have.

531
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

532
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I definitely see a different glow about you.

533
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: I really do. I feel like the last time we talked,

534
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: we didn't have a visual component to it, but obviously

535
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: the tony your voice back then was very like heavy

536
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: and like I felt the anger. But I feel like, yeah,

537
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: I feel like you're cool. Like I feel like you're

538
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: doing a damn thing.

539
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, girl, you know, you can't hold a real black

540
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: woman down, you know, right, we might get down for

541
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: a little bit, but we always stand back up away.

542
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: Right.

543
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: So what's one thing you can said that you learned

544
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: about yourself?

545
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: Trust my intuition.

546
00:31:53,080 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, we put our intuition and our and sent

547
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 4: which is not very common anymore, all the way in.

548
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: The back burner. Stop doing that, lady, Stop doing that.

549
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: Then if you have an inklean that something is wrong

550
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: your spirit, right, listen to yourself. Yeah, I would definitely

551
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: listen to myself from now on.

552
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you know. One of the questions that

553
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: came up when we had our first conversation, where were

554
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: you ever afraid for your own health knowing his history?

555
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 3: No, and I could be honest with that. My mom

556
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: is a retired respiratory therapist forty five years and has

557
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 3: also been in captain in an air force for over

558
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: forty years. She's always told me and my sister, you know,

559
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: get your check up, do your gentle, your hygiene. I'm

560
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 3: one of those. I'm a proactive person about my health.

561
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 3: I make sure to go get my check up. I

562
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: get my blood work. Then, before me and him even

563
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: started dating, the first, second or third time, or even

564
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 3: getting married, I made sure to go get my HIV

565
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: test done faithfully, just because the fact that I believe

566
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: in prevention. You don't want to sit there and wait

567
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: until it's too late. So my health lies. I take

568
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: care of me. I try to very much, so because

569
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: I know I only got one of me.

570
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah right. So four years ago you

571
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: were HIV negative. So what's your status now? Are you

572
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: still negative?

573
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: I am still negative? Good? Good? I really don't be

574
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: I'm not. I've never been out there like that anyway.

575
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: I don't be in these streets. No, no, no, y'all

576
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: be careful, be careful, you kind of go get checked regularly,

577
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: I mean, know your health statist. Guys. Yeah, I'm still negative.

578
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: I was on PREP at one point when I was

579
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 3: with him, and my pharmacist was like, look, if you

580
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 3: stop this prep and you're still with your husband, you

581
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: are going to get HIV. I didn't stop taking the

582
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: PREP until after me and him separated, and it was

583
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: at least a year and a half maybe a little

584
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: more a year an eight months or so before me

585
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: and my current relationship even started having sex with each other.

586
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: And he knows everything about what happened about the ex husbands.

587
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: I'm not that type of person. I'm going to let

588
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: you know up front, so that way we all protect ourselves.

589
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,479
Speaker 2: So I feel like, also, I feel like you're very

590
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: confident now too, Like, did you have to rebuild your confidence.

591
00:34:54,840 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 3: Let me know? I didn't self? Yes, yes, yes, I've

592
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: always been confident. I've always been told I sell myself

593
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: very well. I have a very good educational background as

594
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: well as you know, you know, so for me the confidence, no,

595
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: but self, yes, I had to remind myself who I am, facts,

596
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 3: where I come from, the people who care about me

597
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: and love me, and learn how to love myself over again. Yeah, definitely.

598
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

599
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: And last but not least, if a woman is listening

600
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: in on and she's in the same situation that was

601
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 2: similar to yours, what would be your advice? So what

602
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 2: would you tell her? Right now?

603
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell her the same thing my twin told me.

604
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: As much as you sitting here trying to figure out

605
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: what's going on with this man, if you put in

606
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: that much effort instead of trying to figure out what

607
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: he got going on, if you put in that much

608
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: effort to yourself, you'll be a billionaire.

609
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

610
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't don't sit there and throw your life away

611
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 3: to sit there and try to figure out whitest man

612
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: doesn't want to act right our widest man is out

613
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: here with these other men, or widest man didn't tell

614
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: you about his status. Don't don't stress yourself over it.

615
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: Stress to kill you and causes wrinkles. You don't want that.

616
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 3: You want to sit down and put Yeah, you want

617
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: to put that effort, that same energy, that same effort

618
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: into yourself. Go with Ben and I promise you, like

619
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: I said, if nothing else, you'll be a billionaire before

620
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 3: you even know it, because it'll give you that much

621
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: more dry to live. Yeah, I was. I hate to

622
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: be like this, but I was very blessed and truly,

623
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 3: truly blessed that I did not get HIV. I don't

624
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: wish that on.

625
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: Nobody, because paying with fire a little bit.

626
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, however, I'm going to let you know that if

627
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: if you're in that situation and you are negative, then definitely,

628
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to be with your husband

629
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: or yourself, I'm not saying to leave them, but if not,

630
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 3: protect yourself or I mean period, just protect yourself and

631
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: do what you need to do to make sure your

632
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: health and for that matter, their health is good because

633
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 3: you don't want to sit there and compromise your health

634
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 3: or there, especially if you care about them. Yeah, just

635
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 3: protect yourself and go within if you have them.

636
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 2: And also you make a good point about just pouring

637
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: all that energy into yourself because in the next couple

638
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: of weeks you will be moving to talent.

639
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: Yep, I sure am y yeah girl, i'man counting down.

640
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: I got twenty six babes.

641
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: Yes, Tailan is a vibe. The food is good, It's

642
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 2: also very very affordable. The places are just beautiful, just

643
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: a whole atmosphere and ambiance and the people, like, the

644
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: people are just amazing. So I'm super excited for you

645
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: and your business to take off in talent.

646
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Like I'm so excited, like I

647
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 3: can't believe it's finally hearing happening. Yeah, everybody has been

648
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 3: very supportive. All my clients have been supportive. I got, y'all,

649
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 3: there are black people in Thailand. There's actually a lot

650
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: of us. And they just sat there and open up

651
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: nine more African nations to Thailand, including Ghana and Nigeria.

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be more of us going to Thailand. And

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Speaker 3: if you don't know about Southeast Asia, they're brownskin guys.

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Speaker 3: There are complexions. They're really good people. You'll have great

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Speaker 3: like you said, great food there. I go down the

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Speaker 3: street walk and pick the mango off the tree.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's such a vibe. Like when I went

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Speaker 2: to Thailand, I was like, damn, I think I only

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Speaker 2: spentd like three hundred dollars and I was there for

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Speaker 2: a week and like the massages and I'm not talking

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Speaker 2: about know how to hand this, but the massages are

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Speaker 2: like super affordable and it's so good. So next thing

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Speaker 2: I know, they I'm gonna finitely hit you.

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Speaker 3: Up of course, of course, I'll have us some good

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Speaker 3: eat them up spots to go.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, Well I'm super proud of you, sous.

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Speaker 2: I have to be a part of your journey, and

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Speaker 2: to see where you come from and see where you

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Speaker 2: at is very inspiring. So I'm super happy for you,

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Speaker 2: and I'm just so happy that you came back to yourself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm super happy for you. Chuse girl, you're

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Speaker 3: doing that. I see it, okay, I mean coming from

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Speaker 3: where we was back till now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's is awesome.

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Speaker 3: Like I've been listening, I've been down, like, thank you

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Speaker 3: so much for continuing your great work. We need people

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Speaker 3: like you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like your story is the epitome of

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Speaker 2: what Professional Homegirls stand for, which is share your storyline

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Speaker 2: because you never know how it can be somebody else's lifeline.

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Speaker 2: So I really appreciate you for coming back on the

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Speaker 2: show and sharing an update with us.

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Speaker 3: Of course, of course, anytime, anytime.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and to the listeners, if you have any questions, comings,

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Speaker 2: or concerns, please make sure to email me a hello

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Speaker 2: at the PSG podcast dot com and until next time,

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Speaker 2: everyone later.

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Speaker 3: Bye.

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