1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, when I make art and 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: when I do music, and when I make movies and 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: stuff like that, I try to bring that flavor to 4 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: everything I do. 5 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: You know, there was something so interesting. I remember I 6 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: was in college. 7 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: I was in school for musical theater, and I really 8 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: didn't feel like I fit in. I was coming to 9 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: school my fitted hat, you know what I'm saying, my 10 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: my vernacular and the way I speak and the way 11 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: I kind of carry myself, and it was very different 12 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: from from a lot of the other students. And people 13 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: would crack jokes about the way I spoke and I 14 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: would laugh it off and I'd be like, all right, 15 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: But in the back of my mind, I was like, 16 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm a outwork all of y'all, y'all not even ready. 17 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: From futuro media. It's like, you know, Usa, I'm Maria Inojosa. Actor, singer, 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: and dancer Anthony Ramos first burst onto the scene in 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: twenty fifteen's Broadways smash Hit Hamilton But will never be. 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: Truly free and so those them by to have the 21 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 2: same rights as you were. 22 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: Mad there, he landed the dual role of John Lawrence 23 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 3: and Philip Hamilton. Since then, he's got onto star in 24 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 3: Spike Lee's Netflix series She's Got to Have It Moms. 25 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: She named me mask because she said them out of 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: his universe, A. 27 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: Right and opposite Lady Gaga in A Star Is Born, 28 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 3: Find Somebody Out. Most recently, he landed the lead in 29 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 3: lin Manuel Mirande's much anticipated film adaptation of the musical 30 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: In the Heights. 31 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: Aia must Navigan. 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: You probably never heard my name, reports him of fame 33 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: a greatly exaggerate here. 34 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 3: At twenty eight years old, He's an emerging, multifaceted artist 35 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 3: with a fresh energy on stage and on the screen. 36 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: His easy demeanor and his smooth voice and dance moves 37 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: make him seem like someone very comfortable in his own skin. 38 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: And now he's bringing that confident and laid back energy 39 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 3: into his latest project, recording his own music. His date album, 40 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: The Good and the Bad, came out in October. I 41 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: sat down with Anthony last month before Hamilton premiered on 42 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: Disney Plus to talk about his memories of growing up 43 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: in public housing in Brooklyn, how mentorship has played a 44 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: central role in his career, and how he now finds 45 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: himself in the room where it all happens. Anthony come 46 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: with us. Welcome to let you know, USA. 47 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: Hello, thank you for having me. I'm so excited to 48 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: be here. Hello. 49 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: Hello. 50 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 3: All right, so Anthony, it has been a few years now, 51 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: but we have to talk about it because of course 52 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: Hamilton the original cast is on Disney Plus. And I'm 53 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: assuming this is like really exciting for you. 54 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: It's kind of wild. So relive this experience that we 55 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: all had. You know, we've all been out of this 56 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: show for five years, I think it is. You know, 57 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: some people more and have done it so many times. 58 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: It's now, you know, all these years later. It's actually 59 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: sooner than I thought. I thought this one was gonna 60 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: come out ten years, fifteen years later. But you know, 61 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm grateful I get to share this experience with my family. 62 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: Are you saying, no sweat? We're finally on the field. 63 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: We've had quite a run, immigrants. 64 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: We get the job done. 65 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: You get this call to do a play at the 66 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 3: public and you know, I knowlean Manuel, you know, I 67 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: saw him here in my Harlem park and I said, Heylen, Oh, 68 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: I know, guess oh, well, you know I'm writing a 69 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: play about a musical about Hamilton. And I was like Alexander, 70 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: and he was like yeah, And I was like, oh, 71 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: all right, okay, well good luck, you know. But of course, 72 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: you know, you get in the play. It starts at 73 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: the Public and then it goes to Broadway. And for you, 74 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: when was your moment where you were like, okay, wait 75 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 3: a second, what just happened? 76 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: So there were two moments, right, and these moments were 77 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: very close in time. But it was the first rehearsal 78 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: that I went in and we did a run through 79 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: of the music, and all of a sudden I hear 80 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: that it was just piano and us singing. 81 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: But Leslie came in and sang that first note Spartan. 82 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: The Kookibi and by private Dance and Plava Richt in Squala, 83 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: and then I came in the ten dollars founded Father 84 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: without a Father, God of London. Dave came in and 85 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: every day while slaves were being slaughtered and carted away, 86 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: and I was like, yo, this is different. And this 87 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: was in a workshop before the public theater. 88 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: We did this. 89 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: We did a very three presentations for only one hundred people, 90 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: got a small black box theater over there on fifty 91 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: second Street on tenth Avenue, and I was like, yo, 92 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: like I'll never forget the way people reacted. 93 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: We did the first act of choreography and movement. 94 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: The second act we just did behind music stands and 95 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: we had costumes on, and the way people laughed and 96 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: wept and just the energy and the feeling that encapsulated 97 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: the room after was like nothing I ever experienced. And 98 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: in that moment, I was like, yo, I mean call 99 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: me crazy, man. I was like, this might be a 100 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: smash and yeah, and then we moved the Broadway and 101 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: then you know, that was you know, the rest is. 102 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: History histor So that was obviously enormously successful, and you've 103 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 3: done really well since then. But you're someone who I 104 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: don't know, it seems like you're super connected to Brooklyn, 105 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: to your roots, to the place where you grew up 106 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: to kind of like let theira to the streets. Yeah, 107 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 3: why is that so important to you? 108 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: Because I mean, I never lose where I'm from. It's 109 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: such a huge part of me, you know. But I think, 110 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's a blessing that having come from where 111 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: I came from, right, and you know, from the projects 112 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: and coming from a low income. 113 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: Neighborhood and you know, thank God. 114 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: Overcome so many obstacles to be able to sit here 115 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: with you and talk about all the blessings that have 116 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, I've been able to receive right and albums 117 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: and movies and. 118 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 2: So so on and so forth. 119 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: You know that stuff, that stuff didn't come easy, and 120 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: for me to act like it did would be a lie. 121 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: And I do have a lot to be thankful for 122 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: and grateful for, you know. And I worked hard for 123 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: everything I did. But it does take a level of 124 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: faith and a bunch of things and patients, things that 125 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: are not in your control that had to go my 126 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: way for me even be you know, sitting here talking 127 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: to you about all the things. 128 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: We want to talk about, you know, So I guess, 129 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: you know, try not to forget that. 130 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 3: When you talk about your beginnings, you're like, it wasn't easy. 131 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: You know, the projects were there. It's Brooklyn and those areas. 132 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 3: Now a lot of the areas that you grew up 133 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 3: in Bushwick and Fort Green are like super gentrified. And 134 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 3: I'm wondering now how you put together what you live through. 135 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: You go there and it's a very different thing, and 136 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 3: I'm wondering if that sparks memories for you. 137 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, Bushwick has changed, for sure. 138 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: You know, I go back and there's a coffee shop 139 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: that wasn't there before this person got bought out of 140 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: their house, and I'm like, you know, they fixed the 141 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: park near where my mother lives, and I'm like, I 142 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: don't understand why the park wasn't fixed when I was 143 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: a kid. 144 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: You know. 145 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: It's like things like that that I think about, Like 146 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: they took the neighborhood to change. 147 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: It took gentrification for you to fix that park. 148 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: That one thing I love about going back is seeing 149 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: the young young kids who were just born right when 150 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: I was like. 151 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: Twelve, thirteen, fourteen, now the grown people. 152 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: Also seeing like some of the dudes on the block 153 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: that kind of mentored me and gave me my nickname. Right, 154 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: My nickname was franchise, you know, because my brother my 155 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: dad played baseball. My brother played baseball. And that's seeing 156 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: all them dudes on the block still like your franchise. 157 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: You know, none of them called me Anthony, right, Like 158 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm surprised they even remember my real name because I 159 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: was all people called me my backyard. 160 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: We all shared the backyard in the project, you. 161 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: Know, So I didn't know this about you. I was like, 162 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: oh wait, wait, he played baseball, but like the reason 163 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: why you were called franchise was because you came from 164 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: a baseball family. And then it turns out the thing 165 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: that happens, right is that you're sixteen, you get injured, 166 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: and so you can't kind of do that. When was 167 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 3: it when you were like, wait a second, I can act, 168 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 3: Wait wait I can sing. Oh, also I can dance. 169 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 2: I think it was a combination of things. 170 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: You know. I auditioned for a musical in my junior 171 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: year of high school. 172 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: Was at the beginning of the year. 173 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: I thought it was a talent show, you know what 174 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: I was auditioning for because I miss singing. You know, 175 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: singing was always something I enjoyed. So I went up 176 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: in here thinking I was gonna sing one song. But 177 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: then next thing, you know, the teachers like, can you 178 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: read the lines? And I do the lines, and they 179 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: gave me a lead part in the show. And at 180 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: first I didn't want to do it because I was 181 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: like mad intimidated, and I was like, I can't even focus, 182 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, I was. 183 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: Always cracking jokes, I could never sit still. 184 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: And Sarah was like, just give it a shot, and 185 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: I did, and it changed my life, you know, and 186 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: in that moment. It wasn't only that I felt like, 187 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: oh I can sing or I can dance, but it 188 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: just felt like I was on stage. It felt felt 189 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: this passion for something that was greater, if the same, 190 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: if not greater, than playing baseball. And I had never 191 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: felt that before. And then what was interesting enough was 192 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: the musical. Later on we did the actual mainstage musical 193 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: called Back to the Eighties. Missus H comes up to 194 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: me after a rehearsal. She pulls me into the aisle 195 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: and she just grabs me by both my shoulders. She's like, 196 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: this is what you need to do for the rest 197 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: of your life. 198 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: Wait, so, just so I'm just so I'm clear. So 199 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 3: there have been multiple times when teachers have said, wait 200 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: a second, Anthony, hold on, there's something else that we're 201 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: gonna figure out here, and you you let the help 202 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: you Like, there's this teacher that you mentioned that pushed 203 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: you to be in the play, Sarah Steinwise. And then 204 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 3: there was somebody that you say, is a Miss H. 205 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: You know, I think I'm grateful, Like her name was 206 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: Miss ham Violette. 207 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: We call her Miss H and Miss H. 208 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: She was the coordinator for a program called Peer mediation 209 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: that we had in school, and it'd be like a 210 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: fight in the school and the two students would come 211 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: into mediation and they wouldn't get mediated by adults, but 212 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: they'd get mediated by their peers, by two other students. 213 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: And she would train us and she had training and 214 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: mediation and wow, you know, she's like, I just I 215 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: want to mentor this kid. I want to be in 216 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: this kid's life. Miss H wasn't is a huge part 217 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: of my journey as well. Hey then mama, can you 218 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: tell me how you've been you know. Miss H was like, 219 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: I think you need to see mister Jacobs. You know, 220 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: he was my counselor. You got a lot going on 221 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: at home, You got a lot going on, and you're 222 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: not talking to anybody about it. 223 00:10:58,600 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 2: You might need some help with. 224 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: This, someone who actually is trained in social who can 225 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: help you kind of dig through this stuff that you've 226 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: been going through as a kid that you can't and 227 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: you've had a hard time understanding. 228 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: And finally I was like, all right, you know what, 229 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: I'll do it. 230 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: And that was a big step for me, was getting therapy. 231 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: And I still do therapy twice a week now, So 232 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: it don't matter when if you kind of say that 233 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: you need me, I'll be coming home. 234 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: I'll be coming home. 235 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: I actually have to ask you this because you've brought 236 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: it up a couple of times, and I know that 237 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 3: you talk about it generally, but you have said you're 238 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: the one who's like, look, you know, I was going 239 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 3: through tough times. Your teacher was basically saying, you know, 240 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: there's a counselor who can help you, and she was 241 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 3: noticing that you were dealing with mental health issues. And 242 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 3: I'm just wondering if you can take a moment and 243 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: just paint one image of something that you think of 244 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 3: when you think of and say that your life was 245 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: tough as a kid. 246 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I can't even so it's so much. 247 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: It was hard. You know, we were poor. 248 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: You know, my mother made like thirty thousand dollars a year, 249 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: if maybe barely raising three kids. I don't know how 250 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: she did it by herself. My dad was on drugs 251 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: at the time, and that was hard, you know, seeing 252 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: him high and not to go so deep, but like 253 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: it was crazy, Like I just I didn't realize that 254 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: I was in a home dealing with alcoholism, dealing with drugs. 255 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: There was violence in my neighborhood. People were getting killed. 256 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: One of my closest friends as a kid got shot 257 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: right on the corner. But there was just that struggle 258 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: that was just it just felt at times like how 259 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: am I going to overcome this? How am I going 260 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: to overcome being poor, being Latino in a society that. 261 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: Doesn't feel like it. 262 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: Embraces us like that, you know, especially the nickname for Broadways, 263 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: the Great White Way. You know what I'm saying, I'm 264 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: reaching for something that already feels like the odds are 265 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: against me, you know, and like me being booredyqua, like 266 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, we played baseball, you know, that was like 267 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: the culture in our neighborhood. 268 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 2: Like it was like, yo, you're gonna make it sports. 269 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 2: That's your way out of sports. 270 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: And it was hard, like realizing that I had so 271 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: much trauma as a kid too. You know, no kids 272 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: just see a blade getting pulled out on their parent, right. 273 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: I was witnessing people get jumped, me getting jumped before, 274 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: like fights I've had like things like that, Like I remember, 275 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: it was crazy. 276 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: My family, we always turned our trauma into jokes. 277 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: My brother would come back home, your bloody t shirt 278 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: still from the night before from a fight he had. 279 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: We'd all be up the next morning and he would 280 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: share the story, but he would tell it in a 281 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: way that was hilarious, like he would turn it into 282 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: a stand up comedy skit. And I saw it from 283 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: the corner of my eye. My man's looking at me. 284 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: But he got two homies over here. 285 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: Once in the right, one left. He's like, all right, look, 286 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get rocked on the left. 287 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: But if I throw this right and I'll just be 288 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: sitting there like in awe, Like I'll be like, oh 289 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: my gosh, I can't believe this is happening. It just 290 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: be crazy. But like my family, we we do that, 291 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: you know. I think we we would kind of take 292 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: these moments of pain and struggle or you know, and 293 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: we turn them into like a song or like you 294 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: turn them into a skit, you know, crack jokes about 295 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: it because you know, the only other thing to do 296 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: is cry, which is okay too, you know. I think 297 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: trauma is something that we ignore so much, you know. 298 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: And I had to come to terms with the trauma 299 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: that I had growing up and the things I've seen 300 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: on the phone. 301 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: Journey swing, on the coming up on let you know USA. 302 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: Like conversation with Anthony Dramo's continuous. 303 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: Like someone's going out, figure it out, figure it out, 304 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: figure it out. 305 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: Like so figure it out, figure it out, figure it out. 306 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: Give advice to my friends, but their problems when they 307 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: forget how to. 308 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:52,239 Speaker 3: Se Hey, we're back in this part of the conversation. 309 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: I talked to Anthony almost about his R and B 310 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 3: pop and soulful album The Good and the Bad, and 311 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: what writing his own music means to him. Now. So 312 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: now Hamilton has all of the success, You've been in 313 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 3: movies and TV shows with top directors and actors, and 314 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 3: now you have your debut album, The Good and the 315 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: Badillo we take a table. I mean, your album is 316 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: really okay. Sorry, it's like a de lenovela. I'm sorry. 317 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody's ever told that to you before. 318 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: That's so funny. No, no, no, you're the first first. 319 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: It's basically like do we that you know, the album 320 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: starts out you're writing in a diary, but then you 321 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 3: meet a girl, but then there's heartbreak and then you 322 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 3: have to figure out your life and at the end 323 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 3: you sort of kind of come home and you figure 324 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: out all the goodness that there is in your life. 325 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: It's really structured as a personal journey. So I'm just wondering, 326 00:16:58,640 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: why did you do it? 327 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: I think I just had I had a lot to 328 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: say that and right, like, sometimes you know, you can 329 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: say it through someone else's words. Right, Sometimes we were 330 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: blessed to play characters or sing songs that we feel 331 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: like we can relate to. But sometimes there are just things. 332 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: There's sometimes there are things that only you can say, 333 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: you know. Sometimes there are moments in life that only 334 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: you can recall, you know, And I think it's important 335 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: for us to find those those those moments. 336 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: For ourselves as artists. 337 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: Right Like, you know, sometimes someone can encapsulate the thing 338 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: you want to say so much better than you ever could. 339 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: But then sometimes no one can say what is on 340 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: your heart better than you can say it. 341 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: And I just had a moment. 342 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: You know, my cast members were making albums. I had 343 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: always wanted to make music, but you know it was 344 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: really my boy Will Well, he was on the music 345 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: team for Hamilton. But Will came up to me, I'll 346 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: never forget it after opening night off Broadway. 347 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 2: And Will's let yo in. That was dope, bro. He 348 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: was like, yo. 349 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: Man, everybody is really talented on that stage. But he 350 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: was like, but you special. 351 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 3: Mmmm. 352 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: He was like, you ever wanted to make music? 353 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I mean, actually, you know, 354 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: I've wanted to do that for a minute, and like, 355 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, I had been writing songs even before he 356 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: asked me that. But I think, you know, the relationship 357 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: with Will took everything to another level. And you know, 358 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: and I really always give Will Matd props because Will 359 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: has been He's not only been a best friend, but 360 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: he's been a mentor. You know, sometimes you need somebody 361 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: to just bring it out of you, or somebody to 362 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: just be like, hey, I see something, what's up, you're 363 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: down or what sometimes which my life was like a photograph. 364 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: So you haven't used single it's called Stop Stop. I mean, 365 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 3: we could have never imagined this year, this kind of 366 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 3: challenge where we've had to stop everything. And I'm wondering, 367 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 3: does your song have a different kind of feeling for 368 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: you now in the context of everything that's going on. 369 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's just magnified. I think 370 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 1: you know it was it was something that was there already. 371 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: The song is about how me individually, just as a human. 372 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: I was never good at stopping. I was never good 373 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: at that. You know the lyrics are sometimes I wish 374 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: my life was like a photograph. I'll double tap the good. 375 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 1: Wasn't just photoshop the bad. I put them in my wallet, 376 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: in my pocket. If I need them, then I got them. 377 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: My life don't work like that. I feel like I'm 378 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: in nikes on the track. Even when my feet are up. 379 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: My mind is running fast when I'm home. I get 380 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: impatient when I'm going. I kind of hate it. But 381 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: my life works like that. 382 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: Life works like that. 383 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: Sunset, sunsets and open water sky is full of technicolor. 384 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: There's beauty right in front of you. There's so much 385 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: to discover if you stop. There's so much to discover 386 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: if you stop, see what comes in the focus. 387 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 2: Stop. 388 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy what you notice. Stop, it's like 389 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: a setting sun. Soon it'll be almost over. So just 390 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: stop right and like it was like that song and 391 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: myself almost like, bro, just sit down, my dude, because 392 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: that might help you hone in or actually, you're tired, 393 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: your drain, you're exhausted, you irritate whatever. Maybe if you 394 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: just stop and sit down and really get back to 395 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: the heart of what is important in your life. It'll 396 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 1: help you to understand all the things you've been spending 397 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: your time on that you didn't need to be spending 398 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: time on before, you know, with people, with things with 399 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: Joah whatever it is, right, Maria kid you now. We 400 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: wrote that song two weeks before New York went on lockdown. 401 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't know. 402 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: I didn't know I was about to go home and 403 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: have to be locked in my house for months. 404 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: I didn't know before when we. 405 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: Wrote that song, and then boom, God, life is like, no, 406 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: here you go. 407 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 2: You wanted to stop. Now you're really gonna stop, and 408 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 2: the world stopped. 409 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: We don't have sports to distract us now, we don't 410 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: have concerts, nobody. 411 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: We don't really have many escapes. 412 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: But what we have in our homes through Netflix and 413 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: Disney Plus and all these and the music, we can 414 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: still escape that way. But like you cannot hide from 415 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: what has always been in front of racism, always been 416 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: in front of us, right, you know, inequality injustices. 417 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: That's always been there. 418 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: But it took a global pandemic for us to actually 419 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: like stop and then for it to also clear out 420 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: all the other distractions that we usually have for us 421 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: to have no choice but to hone in right now 422 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: on what is has always been the most. 423 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: Important, you know what I'm saying. 424 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, even even in relationships with like people who you're 425 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: locked in with right, people with spouses and kids, you 426 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: have no choice but. 427 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 2: To have that hard conversation. 428 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: You could avoid it, but it's going to be a 429 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: hard three months if you avoid that conversation that probably 430 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: needed to be had five years ago. 431 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: Last week, Okay, okay, So last question. The video of 432 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: the song The Good and the Bad, you're in it, 433 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 3: but there's also an actor who is playing your younger self, 434 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: and you know you're able to really see that, yes, 435 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 3: you are having an extraordinary moment in your life right now, 436 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 3: but you can see in the video that there's also 437 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: been a lot of bad. 438 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 439 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: And part of the video is this back and forth 440 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 3: with little Anthony. 441 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: Ramos, right right, Yeah, So. 442 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 3: What advice would you give? What advice were you giving 443 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 3: that little Anthony Ramos. 444 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: I think it was me telling myself, like it's okay, 445 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: Like what you're going through temporary. You know what's happening 446 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: to you is not forever, and just hold on. You 447 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: know that song that the lyric is hang on to 448 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: the moments when you're flying, the moments when you cry, 449 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: and hang on to the ones that hold you down 450 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: and the ones that ain't around. 451 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: It's the good and the bad. And you know that, 452 00:22:54,880 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: you know, to the mom when you're in the moment. 453 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes it takes that kid in you. 454 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 3: Right. 455 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: It's like it's almost like when we're kids, we're not 456 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: afraid of the same things we're afraid of as adults. 457 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 2: Right. 458 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: I think as kids, like you don't care what risk 459 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: you're taking. 460 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 2: But there's something that happens to us later on. 461 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: I think in life that you know, our insecurities grow 462 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: because of life experiences, right, and certain things happen and 463 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: they bring back memories of what you know, people make 464 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: fun of me because of this and as a result 465 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: on this way as an adult, right, kids don't have 466 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: all of that baggage, you. 467 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. 468 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: And I don't feel like kids stress about the things 469 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: that we stress about right as adults. And we always like, 470 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: well wait till you get old, you know. Adults always 471 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: tell kids don't grow up too fast. And I think 472 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: it was kind of like young me reminding myself just 473 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: don't grow up too fast. 474 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: Brother, It's okay. What you've been through is okay. Where 475 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: you're at right now is because of what you've been 476 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: through and just taking a stride. It's the good in 477 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 2: the bad, you know. But you're still standing. You're here 478 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: in this hope. 479 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 3: Well you give us hope. Anthony Ramos, thank you so 480 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 3: much for joining me on Latin USA. 481 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: Thank you, Mady. I appreciate and honor when you're buying the. 482 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: Cut in the cut in the bed. 483 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 3: Anthony Ramos is a singer and actor based in New York. 484 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 3: The film version of Hamilton's original cast is now streaming 485 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 3: on Disney Plus. Anthony's latest single, stop drops Next Morning. 486 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: In. 487 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 3: This episode was produced by Ginny Montalvo and edited by 488 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 3: Sophia Alissa Ka. 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