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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of The Art Award Today.

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Speaker 1: My guest is a legend in the sport of boxing.

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Speaker 1: She's a five time amateur world champion. She's an Olympic champion,

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Speaker 1: not one, but at two times undisputed champion. She's just

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Speaker 1: a flat out winner. She's not just an ambassador for

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Speaker 1: women's boxing, but she's an ambassador for the sport of boxing.

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Speaker 1: And I want to welcome to the show the legend

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Speaker 1: Katie Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Thank you man.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on the show today. I've been

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Speaker 1: wanting to talk to you for a long time and

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Speaker 1: you know, just watching you throughout the amateurs and the pros.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just respect how you go about your craft,

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Speaker 1: and I respect the winner. I like the winn.

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Speaker 2: No, thank you so much, Andre, so so great to

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Speaker 2: find you. Me. Japson and I spoken to you a

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Speaker 2: few times on Zoom and stuff from fighter meetings for

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Speaker 2: the account be just their first time actually meeting in Paris,

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Speaker 2: and so this speaks pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much. They had the Ring magazine.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's the first first Award show. Last night,

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Speaker 1: Star Studying did and you know, black Tie, you were there,

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Speaker 1: do you like to dress up, do you know, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's okay to dress up, you know, it's uh.

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Speaker 2: I probably feel a lot more comfortdent this attire to Alice,

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Speaker 2: But it was great to be surrounded by all time

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Speaker 2: grades in that room. Europe shoulders well greatness. Basically you're

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Speaker 2: looking at Alexander Husak, Terrence Crawford, and Galofkin. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's it's absolutely incredible and you're in the room with

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Speaker 2: these superstars in your sport, people you actually look up to.

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Speaker 2: So it was a pretty cool events.

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Speaker 1: Take me back to, you know, the early days and

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Speaker 1: what are your early earliest memories as a kid growing up.

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Speaker 2: I had an amazing childhood, but it's not so obviously

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Speaker 2: amazing to by mos standards. I lived in a very

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Speaker 2: small house in a very rough area, and the area

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Speaker 2: at the time was was, you know, full of drugs.

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Speaker 2: Our family didn't have much. Everybody every family in the

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Speaker 2: area that we'd have much, and there was a heron

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Speaker 2: epidemic that's set through the area in the late eighties

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Speaker 2: and nineties, and so many young people walking around like

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Speaker 2: zombies and so many so many young deaths in the

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Speaker 2: area as well. But in the middle of all that

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Speaker 2: my mom used always said us, it's not it's not

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Speaker 2: where it live, it's how you live that's important. And

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Speaker 2: I had an amazing childhood. I was obsessed with sports

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Speaker 2: growing up. Every single day I was doing something different,

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Speaker 2: you know. I was involved with soccer, box and obviously

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Speaker 2: track and field. I was involved in so many different sports,

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Speaker 2: and one day could be soccer in the morning, the

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Speaker 2: box at night, or track and field in the morning

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Speaker 2: and then okay, of football at night. It seems too

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Speaker 2: much now, but looking back and I can say with

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Speaker 2: conference I have a rich childhood. It was full of life,

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Speaker 2: full of color, full of full of adventure, and full

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Speaker 2: of real friendships. In comparison to the most child would

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Speaker 2: say where they're on their computer games and social orda goodness,

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Speaker 2: I can say with a confidence that my childhood was

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Speaker 2: was outstanding. Just obsessed with sports.

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Speaker 1: I tell my kids all the time, like, turn the

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Speaker 1: game off, ye, turn the TV off, get outside, get outside. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I know, I'm I remember my childhood and it's

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Speaker 1: just we know how to, you know, be on the

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Speaker 1: computer and stuff like that, but we also know what

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Speaker 1: it's like to go outside all day until the streetlights.

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Speaker 2: Outside with your friends, all day and on the bike

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Speaker 2: kicking a soccer ball. That was my childhood. I just

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Speaker 2: sat on the on the streets all day, just just

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Speaker 2: playing sports. And and then the first time I entered

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Speaker 2: into a boxing gyms a ten year olds that for me,

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Speaker 2: I just fell in love with all the boxing gym.

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Speaker 2: I even love the smell the boxing gym, just even

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Speaker 2: the sounds of the boxing, the guys sitting, the speedbag

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Speaker 2: guys and sparing. It's a very very special place.

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Speaker 1: Feed bag, heavy bag, sparring, coaching. It's a sympathy of sounds.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely and and you're just all a bit all of

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Speaker 2: life's big lessons are in the boxing your margin. You learn,

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Speaker 2: you learn discipline, and learn honor. You learn Atteckerty you learn,

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Speaker 2: you learn character, courage, Everything in life that you that

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Speaker 2: you need it you actually learn in the boxing gym.

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Speaker 2: You learn how to fail, aback, get back up again.

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Speaker 2: You learn that you bleed for your dreams. It's all that.

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Speaker 2: It's such a special place to grow up. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: where we're so privileged army to have grown over the

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Speaker 2: boxing gym as.

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Speaker 1: A metaphor of life. And I feel like I feel

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Speaker 1: kind of have an advantage in life because when we're

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Speaker 1: be hard, but nothing is hard like that. So you

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Speaker 1: feel like you can really pretty much do anything in

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Speaker 2: Because I always say that you go through a training camp,

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Speaker 2: you can get you anything. Yeah, yeah, to retreating and

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Speaker 2: once in the gym training for a fight, and that

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Speaker 2: is that is harder than most things that you'll go

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Speaker 2: through in life. The ups and downs with a training camp.

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Speaker 2: You have good days, you have bad days. If one

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Speaker 2: day you're feeling sharp and I say you're feeling a

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Speaker 2: bit flatter, You're you're one day you have a bad

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Speaker 2: spar just you have to get that squar back. And

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Speaker 2: it's that that kind of life. So that that's just

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Speaker 2: the character that just builds in a person. You just

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Speaker 2: become a complete person, don't you. You learn so much

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Speaker 2: about yourself inside of inside the square circle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you now your father used to fight, Yeah you

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Speaker 1: were Did you ever see him fight any footage?

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Speaker 2: Or you're younger, but I was very young when when

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Speaker 2: when he was fighting. But once I said, one of

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Speaker 2: our early club shows, I was on the same cards

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Speaker 2: with Adam my two brothers, so my dad and my

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Speaker 2: two brothers and myself for fighting on the same show.

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Speaker 2: So really yeah, but I can't even remember the fight,

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Speaker 2: to be honest, And that was one of my my

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Speaker 2: my first fights were I had Actually I had to

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Speaker 2: pretend to be a boy actually to get fights because

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Speaker 2: when women's boxing wasn't a sex and sport, yeah exactly,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't a sextion sport and narland at all. And

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Speaker 2: so I was trained with the bias and sparing the bias,

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Speaker 2: but I didn't then I couldn't get any competition, and

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Speaker 2: so I put my hair up and I had to

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Speaker 2: pretend to be a boy. If it seems like a

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Speaker 2: funny story right now, but but it's actually a lot

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Speaker 2: more important than that. Because I was getting increasingly frustrated

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Speaker 2: I wasn't get any fights, and I was saying to

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Speaker 2: if I can't if you don't have any competition, And

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Speaker 2: he was willing to take that risk, and I'm so

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Speaker 2: grateful for those early days.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you had to be different to be able to

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Speaker 1: like to want to fight. Number one, the number two,

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Speaker 1: have having to go through all of them, like disguise

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's you gotta be a little different,

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Speaker 2: No, definitely, I think it was a very very different child.

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Speaker 2: I look him back and and you sometimes you don't

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Speaker 2: was very I was a very intense child. I hate

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Speaker 2: unfulfilled potential, I hate I hate laziness. And I think

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Speaker 2: it's an extreme sport like boxing to challenge that personality type.

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Speaker 2: And I just loved I loved that about boxing because

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Speaker 2: I had a dream grown up, I want I want

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Speaker 2: to become a Lempic champion. My hall. It was based

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Speaker 2: a normous auto. I was getting up before school to

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Speaker 2: This is before women's boxing was the sact of sport

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Speaker 2: that this is the gift, this is my talent, and

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Speaker 2: and the people who believed me the most, my parents

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Speaker 2: And I was a very good soccer player as well

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Speaker 2: when I was young, and it would have been obvious

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Speaker 2: going to do great things in a sport. My family

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Speaker 2: environment with my parents were the biggest encouragers ever. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: so grateful, you know.

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Speaker 1: That was one of my questions I was going to

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Speaker 1: ask you was you know I didn't realize this until many,

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Speaker 1: many years later, But I had a similar childhood, very

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Speaker 1: and then I used to count on my hands nine

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Speaker 1: and how you know, my friends were normal, but I wasn't.

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Speaker 1: They would get to play after school. I had to

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Speaker 1: and that was hard sometimes as a kid. But you

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Speaker 2: No. Absolutely, and we're living such a disperate life as well.

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Speaker 2: In a parison to the restaurant friends, I definitely live a

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Speaker 2: very very different life. And that's what you have to do. Sometimes.

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Speaker 2: It's you cannot be successful without discipline at the end

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Speaker 2: actually gives you the freedom to achieve us in your

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Speaker 2: heart to achieve, and that means you have to make

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Speaker 2: you're you're living a very, very different life than the

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Speaker 2: rest of your friends. But you look back and I

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Speaker 2: don't regret any of that because look at what we've

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Speaker 2: been able to achieve, and look at the light that

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Speaker 2: we've been able to live, and look at the life

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Speaker 2: you're you've been able to create for your family. It's

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Speaker 2: it's absolutely phenomenal. And and you're also using the gifts

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Speaker 2: and talents that that that God gave you. So I

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Speaker 2: you're if you set back and actually would have been

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Speaker 2: I want to make the most out of my life

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Speaker 2: and make my life count and that involves a lot

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Speaker 2: of sacrifice and involves a lot of discipline. Well, I

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Speaker 2: Well, my husband says, I'm a very intense person.

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Speaker 1: That's hard. I've noticed that too, just in life as

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, my first official fight in Ireland was when

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Speaker 1: Where your parents that were they able to go?

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Speaker 1: It's nothing like it. Yeah, because that was that was

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Speaker 2: Honor, the pride. Yeah, just that you feel us fighting

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Speaker 2: That was our only gold medal that year.

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Speaker 2: So we don't win many many medals obviously is a

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00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 2: very very small country and boxings are always our best

437
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 2: sport and those in the Games, and so maybe we won't.

438
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: We won one goal medal, a silver medal, a few

439
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: bronze medals off from boxing, and so yeah, but like

440
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: I said, the whole country came behind me and the

441
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 2: support I've gotten from from everybody at home as being special.

442
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: So you didn't turning pro wasn't an option after that.

443
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 2: I didn't even think it turn a pro to straight away.

444
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 2: I wasn't even thinking about it. That was maybe in

445
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 2: the late at of the years it was that I

446
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: say women's profession boxer probably lacked up with his strength

447
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 2: and death. I wasn't even thinking about about the program,

448
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: to be honest, my size were fairly fixed and and

449
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 2: just retaining my Olympic going in twenty sixteen, but that

450
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 2: obviously didn't didn't go to plan. Yeah, the ups and

451
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 2: downs of the sport, it can be cruel and exhilarating

452
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 2: all at the same time. And I went into those

453
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 2: of the begains just obviously believing I was gonna win,

454
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 2: win again. But I lost my first fight to a girl,

455
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 2: beating many times previously and just wasn't going in and

456
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: probably with the right mental or physical preparation that would

457
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 2: have liked. And it was a very difficult time from

458
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: him in personal life as well.

459
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 1: And so after the loss.

460
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: And before the before the real Olympics, I my dad

461
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 2: was my coach at the time. I had to step

462
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: away from dad due to personal reasons, and I was

463
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 2: going into that competition without my dad mccorner for the

464
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: first time. I wasn't My preparation was a nightmare, and

465
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 2: I still believe I was going to win, and the

466
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 2: way the way I played that was very very difficult.

467
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: To lose in the first round for competitions, it's awful.

468
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 2: It's hard to oversee a heartbreaking that is for an

469
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 2: athlete with my kind of mentality where winning is almost everything.

470
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 2: It's it was very, very difficult and the ups and

471
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: nails the sport. But then I look back and I

472
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 2: see what that loss meant and what that what that

473
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 2: loss produced, and I'm absolutely certain that I would have

474
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: went pro it wasn't for that loss. I would have

475
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 2: had the privilege of making an impact on the program

476
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 2: and and disrupting for women's boxing the way I have

477
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: done over the last eight or nine years.

478
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: So, yeah, what was your what was it? If you

479
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: don't mind me asking, like, what was your dad's response

480
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: when you got home? Being that he wasn't with you

481
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: for that, and then that you lost in the first round.

482
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know to be honest, I'm obviously

483
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 2: very very close with Dad before that, and I am now,

484
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: But during that time it was very very it was

485
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 2: very very tough. I'm sure he was looking at that

486
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 2: heartbroken that he wasn't over there with me, and he

487
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: knew that. I'm sure he knew how heartbreaking that was

488
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: for me in that moment, because he knew the mentality

489
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: that I have, and he he's the one that brought

490
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: me to the gym, He's the one who taught me

491
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 2: the five. Dad as a phenomenal coach, and and so

492
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 2: he knew how I would have felt during that time.

493
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: So my my dad never stopped being my dad. I

494
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: just had to step away from professionally. But I'm sure

495
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: it was a tough tough for him as well, watching

496
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: him from a distance for the first time. And but yeah,

497
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 2: that was just an awful time for me personally and professionally. Really,

498
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: I'm glad I've gotten over that that period.

499
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that sounds tough. I couldn't imagine being being

500
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: the father and like seeing my baby girl. Yeah not

501
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: just in the you know, in the Olympics, but like

502
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: not being able to be there. So I know that

503
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: was very difficult for both these guys.

504
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. But one of one of the highlights I've

505
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 2: had Trai my professional career is to get my dad

506
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: a ball in my last fight against Errano. It was

507
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: like a full circle moment. He was in the gym

508
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: with me again for the first time in years, and

509
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 2: it was amazing for Botals, I think, very very special

510
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 2: for Votals.

511
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: You know, being from Ireland, how did you view the

512
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: United States? Was it like I need to get over

513
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: there in order to really make it as a professional

514
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: or did you not feel that way?

515
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I thought there's going to be lots

516
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: of more opportunities over here, and then I think the

517
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: Americans overall had to realize pro style isn't They had

518
00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 2: all the best professional fighters come from America every gym,

519
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: but over here it's it's based around professional boxing, where

520
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: it's every gym in Ireland s based around amateur Boston

521
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 2: it's very very different, and so I knew I needed

522
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: to get over here, and that's when I first contacted

523
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 2: my my coach ro Assass and could have come over

524
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: for a training camp. And this is after the real Olympics.

525
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: He didn't know who it was. He had no idea

526
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: my amateur accomplishments, but I I don't think so. But

527
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: I then am I can hide there and nice to meet.

528
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: I just want to introduce myself. My name is Katie.

529
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 2: I had a bit of a stuff year as a

530
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: as an amateur boxer. I'm thinking of Turner Pro and

531
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 2: wonder kind of come could have come over for a

532
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: training camp and thank yeah, well, thankfully he applies and

533
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: he let me come over. That's when I was over

534
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: in Connecticut for the first few weeks, and that's when

535
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: I got the fire back again. I got the hunger

536
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: from his sport back again, and I was in the

537
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: gym with all these pros and I fell in love

538
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: with my sport all over again, and that was everything.

539
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 2: I just wanted to enjoy my boxing again. And that's

540
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: when I first contacted Eddie hern as Well reached out.

541
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: I reached out to Eddie while I was here in

542
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: Connecta saying just telling them. I can't remember all I

543
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: said in the messages, but I told him I was

544
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 2: signing to turn the Pro and I feel like I

545
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: can do in the program what I did in the

546
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: amateur game. And I think I think he could send

547
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: the hunger and that I think Eddie could too, and

548
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: he basically just responded, but let's meet, and the rest

549
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: is history.

550
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: Wow yeah, Wow. So you're reaching out to these guys, yeah,

551
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: looking for opportunity, but you're also giving them opportunity.

552
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: I guess. So we didn't mean low had this was

553
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: going to go though. This is at a time when

554
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: women's boxing was no existence. Nobody really cared about women's boxing,

555
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: and less than ten years later we're a headline of

556
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: Masses Square Garden that we're headlined these big shows. It's

557
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: it's amazing progress in one generation. It's incredible, it's powerful.

558
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: So you turn pro right after that twenty sixteen Olympic Games,

559
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: the second Olympic Games, and you won a world title

560
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: on your ninth fight against Victoria Bustos. Over the next

561
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: five fights you begin to unify the lightweight division and

562
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: in your fifteenth fight in twenty nineteen, you become a

563
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: two division world champion. Why the move up and why

564
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: did you just stayed champion in both way classes, the

565
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: likeweight and super lightweight.

566
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: I think it was just you had the opportunity of

567
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: Roles and Colik, and they asked me that they want

568
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: to become a two way world champion, and I said

569
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: that that sounds amazing, and why not. I don't think

570
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: leep moving up and down the ways is is too

571
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: important a women's boxing because we don't punch as hard

572
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: as a man, so it's a lot more difficult for

573
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: man to move open down the ways, but for women,

574
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: you see lots of female fighters actually doing that. I

575
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: fatherized it. I fought like suggests from Jessica McCastle. She

576
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 2: moved up to well to rad it and became one

577
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: to be the champion. I thought the likes of the

578
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: Aasa Jonas she moved up to maybe like middleweight and

579
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: became world jabbing. All these girls have to ben go

580
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: up and down the wage just to get these these

581
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: different opportunities. It's not as informed or as difficult. So

582
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: and I'm probably the smallest light way in the history

583
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: of boxing. I walk around and maybe one hundred and

584
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: forty pounds. I'm you know, I never felt that the

585
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: need to actually kill myself making way for these for

586
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: these fies.

587
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: So you don't like talk to me about that a

588
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: little bit. Because I hear that the phrase like weight bully,

589
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: wait bully, and I feel like you know, if longest

590
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: two fighters make the weight like, it's a fair it's

591
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: a fair, fair game. But why don't you worry too

592
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: much about weight? Because some fighters believe the old mindset,

593
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: which is boiled down as much as you can for

594
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: the adventage. But I feel like if you're a good boxer,

595
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: like you can pretty much you can deal with whatever.

596
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: It's not a best size as best good Yeah, yeah, exactly.

597
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: So I never felt the need to kill myself making weight,

598
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 2: even as an amateur boxer. I was just saying, I

599
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: was never the biggest lightweight in the world, and I

600
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: know that you were the same as well. Even for

601
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: those two thousand and four games. You're already smallest, smallest

602
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: the way in that competition. Both, yes, but you're the

603
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: most skilled fire in the competition and uh and that's

604
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: what it's all about.

605
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and those guys. What I noticed too, is like

606
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: in the Olympics, I know, you know, but like you

607
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: fight like every three four days, and I would watch,

608
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: like my teammates and other guys in other countries, they

609
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: were not able to eat that much exactly. They fight

610
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: a tough fight. And then because my weight.

611
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: Was low exactly, I was eating.

612
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm hydrating. I'm like, I'm fine. These guys are starving. Yeah,

613
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: and then as the tournament progressed, they got weaker and

614
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: weaker and stay strong advantage it is.

615
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and light actually got better as a competition.

616
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: The first fight was a bit flat. Maybe second I

617
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: was a bit better, but it's only the final game round.

618
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: I'm flying. I'm flying right now. And so when you

619
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: have to stay arps out for a whole week, that's

620
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: that's not going for anybody's anybody's body. For me, I

621
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: was able to eat your and look at those competitions

622
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: as well.

623
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: So young fighters out there, listen to it. Listen to

624
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: what she's saying. That's powerful stuff. Fight at the right way. Class.

625
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: You don't want to be twenty pounds overweight. It's not

626
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: an advantage, it's a disadvantage. Trust your skills and even

627
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: if the fighter looks bigger, your skills can offset that.

628
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: Exactly. It's all about skill. I've been saying that for years.

629
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: It's not the best Sawyers r L. Yeah, look look

630
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: at profit against Canelo. It's a classic. It's a classic example.

631
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: So, yeah, you won your first undisputed lightweight championship, against

632
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: Delphiine Pursue. I think that was in the middle of

633
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: the pandemic, like.

634
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: I actually fought Pursue an MSG and actually Joshua on

635
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: the cars, but then the rematches joined it from that,

636
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: Like the first five is a very very to fight

637
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: and a grill fight actually, but thankfully I removed all

638
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: that on the rematch.

639
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: The second fight was for the person un disputed championship.

640
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: The first five was for the understudients, So this was.

641
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: The remassage to try. How did that feel to like

642
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: actually win that first undisputed, Like you keep taking it

643
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: up the ladder, like FIRSTUS championship and it's unification. Now

644
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: it's undisputed, You're undisputed, likeweight champion.

645
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: Amazing do I feel like incredible? Because I had to

646
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: win every single beout individually to get to the underspuit

647
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: of site. Also obviously very very special that was on

648
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: the the Aja versus Andrews fight. That was a huge Yeah,

649
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: that was a huge upset. Obviously a crazy night and yeah,

650
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: just I think that might have been my first fight

651
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: in MSG. Maybe obviously an undercard fight, but amazing to

652
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 2: become on the spirit champion of Master Square Garden and

653
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: I grill and turn around fires. I'll say a very

654
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: very tough fight, and the cometrue on top was was

655
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: very very specially hold all those belts. Yeah, incredible.

656
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: We don't like the sanctioned fees, but.

657
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: It's nice to have the fees.

658
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: That's not all feess.

659
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: I can see if I fly Mayra did I did right.

660
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: He didn't fight your belts. He became bigger than the belts.

661
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: But I still have bad thoughts about the sanctioned fees.

662
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: And then today I think about, oh my god, I

663
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: gave him so much money. I know, Oh my goodness,

664
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm getting flash.

665
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: Back between the sanction fees and tacks and the man.

666
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm getting flash back. I got to stop. A couple

667
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: of years later, in April of twenty twenty two, in

668
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: steps Amanda Serrano for the first time. You know, she's

669
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: a tough, skillful Puerto Rican fighter. You guys are finding

670
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: an MSG. What did you know about her going in

671
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: to that fight for the first one.

672
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: I knew about Amanda when I first one, when my

673
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 2: first term pro she was, I guess the most experienced

674
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 2: women's professional boxers uring that time. She had over forty

675
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: fights kickbox exactly exactly, So I knew of her, and

676
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: I obviously knew of her sisters for sister years ago,

677
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 2: years ago as well, So yeah, I knew of Amanda well.

678
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 2: When the fight was made, I was very, very excited.

679
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: The fact that we were headlining the MSG was one

680
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: of the moment one of those moments were hurting, oh

681
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: my gosh, we've actually made it. In the space of

682
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: it maybe seven eight years as a pro I first

683
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: turned probe the females were making pennies. You know, nobody

684
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 2: really cared about about women's professional boxing. It was non existent.

685
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 2: And then a few years later we're headlined this most

686
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: iconic arena and even had then to fight week that week.

687
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 2: You know, your your face on billboards everywhere. It's crazy.

688
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you just knew that this was different, and

689
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: it was just one of those moments of oh my gosh,

690
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: well we actually made it. An amazing moment for the sport,

691
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: for me personally, and yeah, just and the fight itself

692
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: was an instclassic as well as iconic, and I feel

693
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 2: like I just had a pretty back up the rounds

694
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: in the middle of that fight. But overall, I thought

695
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: it was a very good, you know, very good performance.

696
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: And and the atmosphere itself was electric, irish in the

697
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: Puerto weeks get together. It's very the only thing.

698
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: The only fight that was was I think more electric

699
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: than that was the last fight, Like you didn't think

700
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: it can get more electric than the first fight, and

701
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: then you know, we'll talk through the second fight. But

702
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: then the third fight, Yeah that was different, but we'll

703
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: get there with the So so in this first fight,

704
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: fourth round, you get cut, like there were there were

705
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: epic moments, just like there aren't epic fights right this

706
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: back and forth. You have an advantage and then Sorono

707
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: seems like she's having an advantage. But you get cut

708
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: in the fourth round. You had been cut before. What

709
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: were you thinking were you? Was it not a big deal?

710
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not happy about it.

711
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: I didn't remember getting cut in the fourth round, so

712
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 2: so you weren't thinking like I cut. I don't even know.

713
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: I don't even remember that. So you don't mean to

714
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: think of it. You're going to fight. You're just that's

715
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: part of the paris of the sport, doesn't I haven't cold

716
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: before and flights, so I don't know that was an

717
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: issue for me.

718
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, some people panic tho when they see their own blood,

719
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: and some people get mad, some people just have different

720
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: realcitya But that led into two epic rounds back to

721
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: back that you guys had in the first fight, Round

722
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: five in round.

723
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: Let's not talk about round five. Let me just ask you.

724
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: This about it. In those type of moments though, like

725
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: when when when it's not going your way or it's

726
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty moments, sixty to forty moment, what are

727
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: you thinking like in that moment, what do you think?

728
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: Because it's a lot going on.

729
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 2: There's lot going on, but people talk about the heart

730
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: and stuff and the great and the determination. But I

731
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: didn't feel like I had to show a lot of

732
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: heart that fire. I felt like I was clear how

733
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: of going back to the ground during the fifty and

734
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: sixth round, and I actually came back and I actually

735
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: won the sixth round. So to get hurt like that

736
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: and they to come back and actually win the sixth

737
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: round was It was very very unique, I think. But

738
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: it's just the will to win. I guess kicks in,

739
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: doesn't it. You're not thinking about anything. We're winning the

740
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: fight and winning the rest of the next round. You

741
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: have to adjust and every great fighters and that's that's

742
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: what makes like the fly Mayweather bros. So great. He's

743
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: able to adjust yourself so great, your course so great.

744
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: You know you're able to adjust and and and just

745
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: change things up and get through those tough moments, because

746
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 2: everything of tough, every fire is going to go through

747
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 2: those tough moments as some sage. But let me see

748
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: your heart, let me see your will to win, let

749
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: me see your grit, and and you don't just show

750
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: all that during the fight, show all that during training camp.

751
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: Every single day. You're beating your body into submission every

752
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 2: single day for the fir moments like that, and and

753
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: that's why it trains. So I had to recover from

754
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: those from those big punches. I was definitely hurting that

755
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: fifth round, but I came back stronger the sixth round.

756
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: I actually want one the second half that fight, And

757
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: that's what that's what we wanted to fight.

758
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 1: I think you when you got hurt, you like fought harder,

759
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: you know, and in those moments, like whatever you have

760
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: in you, that's what's going to come out. You can't

761
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: fake it.

762
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

763
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: That's the thing about boxing is like it's going to

764
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: reward you in the biggest moments. But it's also going

765
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: to expose on tell on you too. If you're not

766
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: prepared or if you're not really like that in those

767
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: tough moments, it's going to show. But I was also

768
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: very impressed with your coach. Yes, your coach in that moment.

769
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: Lot of even experienced coaches, they can panic, they can

770
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: start giving you too many instructions, the wrong instructions. He

771
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: was very clear, He's very concise. I never saw him

772
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: get too high or too long. He was I was

773
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: very impressive.

774
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: He's fantastic ross in the corner. He's very composed all

775
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: the time and just gives it clear instructions, like I said,

776
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: one or two instructions around, very precise instructions, and even

777
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: a sparring for example, he's the same. He's very, very

778
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: good and very It's it's amazing that that even in

779
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: the last fire, you're looking at the difference between between

780
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: both coaches. Sometimes in those moments, the coach makes a difference.

781
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: And I'm very very grateful that I'm going back to

782
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: a fantastic coach. He's he has a great mindset, a

783
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: very smart coach, and and that has been the difference

784
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: for me in many many fights.

785
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: I feel like for an elite athlete, like you know

786
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: what to do, but you just need to be reminded

787
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: of something exactly. You need that vote of confidence or

788
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: that that little injection of conference of hey, this is

789
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: what we came here for. You just need those.

790
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 2: Moments exactly, and and they can obviously see something different

791
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 2: than you can't as well. And even one one of

792
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 2: my earlier fights against Natasha Jonas, I came back to

793
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: him after the seventh round, eight nine to ten round

794
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: the championship rounds for me and I needed those three

795
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 2: rounds and he just looked at me and say, hey,

796
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: you can. I was exhausted that fight. Actually went into

797
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: that fight with a torn calf. I went into the

798
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 2: fight not sleep and I didn't sleep greater in five week.

799
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 2: It was a very very People have no idea sometimes

800
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: about the butter fires go through. They haven't got a

801
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: clue and they just say, hey, look at me, you

802
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: can do this, you can do it. It's just a

803
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: simple encouragment like that. I went down on one whe

804
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 2: of the last three rounds. I needed those last three

805
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: rounds actually in the fight. And so those moments that

806
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: people don't see or people don't realize just a simple,

807
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: simple instruction, Katie, look at me, you can do this.

808
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: You can do this, And that's all I needed, Man to.

809
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: Stay here because I was just talking to we were

810
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: talking to I was talking to Shakur and a few

811
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: other people last night about that. About you get two

812
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: weeks before the fight, you get seven days before the fight,

813
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: your sleep gets disrupted. You're thinking about it in your

814
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: sleep every way to moment. It's on your mind. Did

815
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: you did you have to experience that as a fight?

816
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: Was the week of the fight.

817
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: I think every single fighter goes through a bit of

818
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: a mental battle, don't. You just can't. Professional boxing is

819
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: amazing because the fights are made two or three months

820
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 2: at advance, and for those two or three months, you're

821
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: just thinking about as one person every single day, a

822
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: day after day after day, and that was the fight

823
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: gets closer. If you're a five week you have all

824
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 2: these media obligations, you have press conferences, you have weigh ins.

825
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: It's a very very busy week, and so even that

826
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: the mental fatigue that you have from doing loads of interviews,

827
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: and people don't realize that that's how tough that can

828
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 2: be as well. But it's part of part of the sports.

829
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: You got to manage that. It's not that it's not

830
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: gonna happen, but it's how it's how well do you

831
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: manage it. You won the first fight obviously, ninety six,

832
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: ninety three, ninety seven, ninety three, ninety four, ninety six.

833
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: Anytime as a fight like that, there's gonna be controversy.

834
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna have people say one thing on both sides.

835
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: Were you able to enjoy the moment being an MSG

836
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: doing what you did from a number standpoint? Were you

837
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: able to enjoy the type of fight that you put

838
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: on and then the victory. Were you able to enjoy

839
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: it even though there was controversy.

840
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think about the controversy too much because

841
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: every every fighter's going to be faced with criticism. But

842
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: I have very very honest people around me, and I

843
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: was very clear in my eyes, I actually wanted to fight,

844
00:43:54,800 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: so I was able to enjoy it for sure. And uh,

845
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 2: I knew there was probably going to be a rematch.

846
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: I was very happy about that as well. But I

847
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: was definitely able to enjoy the fight Enjiyvy experience and

848
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: look back on those moments and say, well, what what

849
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: what an iconic moment for the sport and what I

850
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 2: kind of iconic fight as well, So I definitely enjoyed

851
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 2: that moment.

852
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: Why didn't you guys do an immediate rematch.

853
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: What I wanted to do? But you can ask the

854
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: Serrano about that.

855
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: I've heard you say that. Yeah, but you definitely if

856
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: you could have had a true way you wanted to

857
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: go right back.

858
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: I think we signed maybe four or five different contracts

859
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: over the years to fight Serrana, and we obviously we

860
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: obviously fight three times out. But but yeah, I would

861
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: have had no problem, you know, find her straight away.

862
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: So you didn't do the immediate rematch? You want to

863
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: defend your titles at did you go? Did you go

864
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: up for Chantel's titles.

865
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: Or did you actually had a fight in.

866
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: Between in between that try to face her? That was

867
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: your first loss as a professional, your your first loss

868
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: since the Olympics in twenty sixteen. How did you deal

869
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: with that at that level at that stage?

870
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was my homecown fight as well,

871
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: and it was a home yeah, so it was a

872
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: definitely tough, a tough loss. But again it wasn't a

873
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: great training camp I had that torn calf again.

874
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: The same one, same one.

875
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: I was my manager was trying to convince you to

876
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 2: pull out the fire.

877
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: How long? How many weeks before did you tear?

878
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: It was just there at the whole training camp. I

879
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: was trying to manage it. So I wasn't able to move.

880
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I'm not making any excuses.

881
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: You want to find fair and square, I'm not making that's.

882
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: No.

883
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 2: That was just a bit the way it went, and

884
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: but a very very tough loss. But I had that.

885
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: I was on a Saturday, I had the Sunday. One

886
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: of the office was back in the gym and she

887
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: was they preparing for the rematch for that fight, and

888
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: I knew it was going to be different for that rematch.

889
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: I knew. I was so excited for that rematch. It

890
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: was the longest six months ever.

891
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: Both but but you got the rematch.

892
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: I got the rematch and it was a very very

893
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 2: clear victory for the rematch.

894
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: But I was in Dublin, Ireland again, that was the arena. Yes,

895
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: what is it like fighting in that arena for you?

896
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: Amazing? Yea. The amospray again is electric, huge pressure in

897
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: those in your boxing at home, you have to perform

898
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 2: obviously after it's a different kind of pressure exactly, and

899
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: people have turned on for you. But uh yeah, it

900
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: was amazing to get to get that rematch back.

901
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: So now you're you're a to two times undisputed world champion.

902
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: You avenge your first loss. Here comes Amanda Serrano again.

903
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: When did that? When did that that that second fight

904
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: start to become like, okay, this may happen.

905
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think J Paul announced that he was going

906
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: to be finding Netflix against Mike Tyson are exactly, And

907
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: I was saying to my imaginer, we want to be

908
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: on that card. Imagine being on a car with Mike

909
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: Tyson and such an iconic figure, and he was working

910
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 2: with m VP and to try and make that I happened,

911
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: And and I got a phone call in maybe a

912
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 2: few weeks after I was saying I was on the

913
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: card against Amanda again, and uh yeah, amazed. I couldn't

914
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: believe what kind of the world are we living in?

915
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: By the way, J Paul spe Mike, you guys are

916
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: yeah crazy and put live on Netflix as well. Such

917
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: an amazing plan.

918
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: What's the difference between and it's not a T and

919
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: T Arena's at at and T stadium. But what is

920
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: it like, what's the difference between like maybe you know

921
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: in American stadium like at and T or or Wimbley

922
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: or the one you know, finding an Ireland was that

923
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: what was that feel like? The difference between the crowd, noise, pressure.

924
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the pressure and the nies, I mean

925
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: the deniers thats are very very different. But you're not

926
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 2: really focused on that too much. You just focus on

927
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: the on the actual fight. Sometimes they're critically so low,

928
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: but you're only focused on what's in front of you.

929
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: You don't you know, you're not even but you don't

930
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: exactly You're not even awhere what's going on around you.

931
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: But just an amazing moment though, to be on the

932
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: same card as Mike Tyson and all week being surrounded

933
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: by Mike Tyes and every time we walking Wiser He's like,

934
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: it's it's against them, against the Absolutely Mike, it's against them.

935
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: I'm on his side, So I thought, I thought that

936
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 2: was pretty cool.

937
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: Walk me through the second fight, another epic fight, back

938
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: and forth, ebbs and flows, you know, and the referee

939
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: took a point from thinking the ninth round or something

940
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: you think was warranted that was crazy to talking me

941
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: through what you were remember about that fight?

942
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I just thought I thought that I was

943
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,479
Speaker 2: landing the cleaner shot in comparison to her pit power

944
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: punches throughout the fight. I thought it was a clear victory,

945
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: and every judge had it the same way, even with

946
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: that ridiculous point exactly. But the problem with the second

947
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: five is that people are so influenced by it but

948
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 2: bias commentary, which included a man that's Puerto Rican friend,

949
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 2: Rosie Perez. People were so influenced by the foolack commentary

950
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 2: and the and that that made the fight controversial. But

951
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 2: it wasn't controversial all if you wanted that fight with

952
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: the sound off. It was a clear victory and so

953
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: and I actually said that those the whole of a man.

954
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 2: On purpose, I wanted to show her that I could

955
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: stand there a fight with her. Might have been, might

956
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 2: not have been as smart as Mills, but I wanted

957
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: to stand there and actually fight with her and prove

958
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 2: that I wasn't hurting the first flight. And it was

959
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 2: a clear victory. Though, because you've.

960
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: Got a style where you can box, where you can fight, Yeah,

961
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: because you have a very like you have a very

962
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: nice feel like it's a very nice style where when

963
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 1: you're getting your rhythm, like you know, it's just it's beautiful.

964
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: The punch is coming off offense defense. I really, I

965
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: really like it. But you can also tow that line

966
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: too and fight.

967
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 2: For and sometimes you can enjoy to fight a bit

968
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: too much because it's your sand with a person and

969
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: just the physicality of and the heart and revolves and there.

970
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: You know, I actually love that that that type of

971
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: fighting as well, But it obviously takes a lot more

972
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: discipline to actually boxing the outside actually to use your

973
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: feet and then to say disciplines. Sometimes when I'm tired,

974
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: you can take that the easier often to stand there

975
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: and fight. It takes a lot more discipline obviously to

976
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 2: actually seek your box and move on the outside and

977
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: use your job faint and it's very very difficult to

978
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: keep that going for for ten rounds. But sometimes you can,

979
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 2: you can tend to be a bit lazy and actually

980
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 2: just stand there a fighter. Sometimes it's it's enjoyable as well.

981
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 1: Your coach was trying though, trying to redirect you got

982
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: a box. We can do that, but we got to

983
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: do it smart.

984
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: He's saying to me, made to fight Born.

985
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: Yes, just get out of here with exactly.

986
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want people to start booming during the fight

987
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: because it's so easy for you. You can actually, He's saying

988
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 2: to me throughout the whole training, you can actually win

989
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: this fight easy, made to fight Born. Use your legs,

990
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 2: use your feet, use your job. You can easily have boxerver. Yeah, thankfully.

991
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys had seventy four million people watched

992
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: on Netflix, most viewed women's boxing match ever, seventy two

993
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: thousand in the AT and T Stadium. Just groundbreaking stuff,

994
00:51:55,000 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 1: trail blazing stuff that you guys did and just powerful.

995
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing. Who would have taught and this this was

996
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: the first trilogy and female boxing history as well, myself

997
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: and Amanda. She's also a great person by the way,

998
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: Amanda is, and we're sharing history together. Her names are

999
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: always going to be associated with each other. And then

1000
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: the last fight was obviously an all female card. He

1001
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: would have taught that women's boxing was ever going to

1002
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: get a place where we're holding an all female boxing cards.

1003
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: So a very very special events and to compete the

1004
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: first trilogy and female boxing history was incredible.

1005
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: Before we get to the third fight, like what is life. Like,

1006
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: I know you're in the States now, but you know,

1007
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: whether you're in the States or whether you're back home

1008
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: in Ireland, it's different now for you, like you are

1009
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: Katie Taylor. You know, people are calling you an all

1010
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: time great, a legend like and you and you keep

1011
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: you know, doing greater and greater things. So like, how

1012
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: does it feel to be you getting all this attention

1013
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: and having all this start.

1014
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: Well, I live a very very quiet life, but I

1015
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: don't think my day to day life has changed too much.

1016
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: I'm just in the gym constantly, like like I've always been. I've,

1017
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: like I said, I have a very quiet life and

1018
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 2: got married a couple of years ago, have a family

1019
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 2: life now yeah, thank you so much, and so life

1020
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: is pretty good. But in terms of my day today,

1021
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 2: I don't really you know, I can look back and

1022
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 2: I'd probably appreciate a lot more looking back on things

1023
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: now now that I'm at at the end of my career,

1024
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: I can look back and appreciate headlining the masson Square Guard.

1025
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: I can appreciate those moments a lot more. Think, and

1026
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 2: I'm also thinking about off the word legacy a lot

1027
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 2: more as well, and open up the door that door

1028
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 2: for the next generation female fighters and so they can

1029
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 2: see further they can do two greater things, that they

1030
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: can be greater than we've ever been. I think that's

1031
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: what legacy is all about, trying to open it over

1032
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: for these next generation of talent so you can do

1033
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: even better things than we've ever done. And I think

1034
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: that's that's what it's all about. And so I can

1035
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: look back with a lot of a lot of pride

1036
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: and the fact that I can be called a pioneer

1037
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: along with side like the Clarissa and and Leida Ali

1038
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: and many others were part of this pioneer class. Lucy Reicher,

1039
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: Christie Martin, these kind of women who have done amazing

1040
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: things for sport. There the Golberty. That's incredible to be

1041
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: part of that pioneer class. And I can look back

1042
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 2: and that with great fondness and I can't believe I

1043
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 2: played it a nice role in this and I'm definitely

1044
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 2: very very proud of that.

1045
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: Party is another one she's done.

1046
00:54:55,080 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: I think incredible. Absolutely, she was a real knockout artist, crazy.

1047
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: Story man that she's overcome too to be to be

1048
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: what she's been in life. But when you get attention though,

1049
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: do you are you like a person like I don't

1050
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: really like it. Like I know how to flip the

1051
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: switch on and be polite, but I really don't like attention.

1052
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: Are you like that?

1053
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: I think people are very nice. I'm very supportive, aren'tie.

1054
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it can make people say we

1055
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: actually sit there and actually have a conversation with somebody

1056
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 2: and looked into the eye and actually asked them a

1057
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 2: few questions as well. But it's obviously not something that

1058
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: I think off the offline, just having a conversation with someone.

1059
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: I don't think myself is any greater better at that

1060
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: than anybody else. I'm just sitting there and actually conversion

1061
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: with someone, and uh, I'm being interested in their lives

1062
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: as well.

1063
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: So let's get into this third fight. Leading up to

1064
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: the third fight, the promotion was a little bit chippier

1065
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: because now we have two close fights. Yeah, and you

1066
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: have so Rano and her team saying robbery, dirty fighter.

1067
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: You know she's got the back end of you know,

1068
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: Jake Paul, did that ever concern you, like his influence

1069
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: possibly on the judges or anything like that. In these

1070
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: second and.

1071
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 2: Third probs, it can be a concerned for sure, but

1072
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 2: but it's not never good to focus on that thing.

1073
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: I can't I can't do anything about the judges. I

1074
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: just had to do my job and just pray for

1075
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 2: fairness in the fight and that that right person wins

1076
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: the fight. So, but I was super excited about the

1077
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: final fight because I was able to remove all out

1078
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: from everybody's eyes. And I knew I could do that

1079
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: from boxing and O brawl, and I knew my my

1080
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: boxing ability was far superior in hers, and I didn't

1081
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 2: mind making a more fight. Last time. I was able

1082
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 2: to get my toes and box and actually make the

1083
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: fight a lot easier and to remove all doubt. I

1084
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 2: wasn't as iconic. I wasn't an instaclassic. I wasn't them

1085
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 2: you know, the flight light the flights before, but I

1086
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: didn't care. I got my exactly. We already already done that,

1087
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 2: like I said, And it was great to be able

1088
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: to complete a trilogy and to remove all doubt and also, yeah,

1089
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: just shut everybody up.

1090
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: Basically, how do you how do you I've been called this,

1091
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: like I just interviewed called Frat a couple of days ago,

1092
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: and he was saying it again, how do you feel

1093
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: when you when you hear whoever fans, media opponents call

1094
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: you a dirty fighter.

1095
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you've been called at this stage it's

1096
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 2: near your privilege, is not exactly that means that? Does

1097
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 2: that mean that you can't bully me? Is that what

1098
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: it is? Or you know what I don't understand. If

1099
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 2: you think I'm a dirty fighter, make the fight dirty yourself, exactly.

1100
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 2: You don't be complaining about it or whined about it.

1101
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 2: You have to do something about it. There's no ever,

1102
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: never been a case in my whole career where I've

1103
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 2: complained to the referee about something or you know, if

1104
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: it's if I think someone is going to be a

1105
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: dirty fighter, you you treat that fire in the same way.

1106
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to be dirty back. That's this is the

1107
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: fight game at the end of the day. So you're

1108
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: not going to be able to bully me, that's for sure.

1109
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 2: If you call a thirty fighters fair enough, So it's

1110
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: it's ridiculous. All the accusations were were ridiculous date throughout

1111
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 2: the last fight especially, and and I just speak up

1112
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: a small in the press conferences, but probably for the

1113
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: first time. I'm usually very very quiet. I never use

1114
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 2: usually saying much. But this time I just had to

1115
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: shut them up A small, a small bitter at times

1116
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 2: where I are like it was like a circus of delusions.

1117
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes deal with the other side, but who cares us

1118
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, nobody, nobody remember.

1119
00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: But I was going to ask you about this. So

1120
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: in the press conference, she comes there with the headgear on, right, she's,

1121
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: you know, doing her thing. But I saw the switch

1122
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: that I talked about earlier for you. I saw that

1123
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: switch flipped on where I was like, Oh, Katie's responding

1124
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: differently than I've ever heard. You were more direct. I

1125
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: just heard you speak up more than you normally. Yeah,

1126
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: to your point, you felt like you had to do

1127
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: that just based on some of the things that were

1128
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: being said.

1129
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: So I just had, I guess, put them on a

1130
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: plate in their place as small. But sometimes it's there's

1131
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 2: a time to stay silent, un there's the time to speak.

1132
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 2: And I just felt like, this is my time to

1133
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: speak now. I'm not going to let you guys tuality

1134
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: these accusations without me giving you what I think, and

1135
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 2: even about the treatment arounds and about this. You know

1136
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: you're not in a position to day say acting I'm

1137
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: the champion here, they're not. And even about the head clashes, yeah,

1138
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 2: I went in. I also got caught that fire wasn't

1139
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: obviously as bad as her cup, but her head also

1140
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: her her my head. It's not a and sometimes that

1141
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 2: happens against the selp off either. Now that's just the

1142
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 2: way it is. But it was nice to be able

1143
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 2: to speak up and put her in our place as well.

1144
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: But how do you feel about that overall? Just the

1145
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: the ten two minute rounds versus maybe ten three, Like

1146
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: some women are like, we want to fight three minutes,

1147
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: and then for the third five you're like, no, we're

1148
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: going to keep it where it is, Like, where are

1149
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: you at with that three minutes two minutes? Or should

1150
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: women just be able to choose?

1151
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not convinced yet that it's it's a good

1152
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: idea for the dream minutes. First of all, we still

1153
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 2: get paid much less than a month or asset. Yeah,

1154
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 2: and risks much more even less pay. And I I

1155
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 2: think one of the biggest arguments is that you'll see

1156
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: more knockouts, but I don't think that that would be

1157
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 2: the case. So maybe when you have it an up

1158
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: and come a fighter against the journey fighter who is

1159
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 2: there to knocked out? Is that what we want our

1160
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 2: records feel with mealless knockouts. I don't think that doesn't

1161
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: support any justice and I don't think we will see

1162
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: more knockouts and proper competitive fights. And the few fights

1163
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 2: that I have seen with three minute rounds, they've actually

1164
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 2: been quite born to watch. And I think one of

1165
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 2: the reasons I've been involved in so many excited fights

1166
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 2: is because this year pace and this year total action,

1167
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: which is made possible because of the two minute rounds.

1168
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: For the urgency to go exactly, it's a it's a

1169
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: different fight. You have to just a year pace alone,

1170
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: and it is very, very exciting to watch. And I

1171
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 2: will likely change your mind that if the pay is better,

1172
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 2: if you will see more knockouts, and if the fights

1173
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 2: weren't born. But right now, I think it's something worth

1174
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: keeping it in the in the female game, what do

1175
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 2: you think about it?

1176
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: I feel like the women should have a choice if

1177
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: they want to have a choice, you know, boxing, as

1178
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: long as I have I do a different type of

1179
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: math I'm thinking about. That's more punches that both fighters

1180
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: are taking, you know, and if the pay isn't equal

1181
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: why would you do that? But I do respect the

1182
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: women that want to do it, but I respect the

1183
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: ones that have the opinion like you. So I just

1184
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: think if both fighters agreed, give them the option. But

1185
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: if they don't want to, then you know, they shouldn't

1186
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: be forced to or feel like that there's something wrong

1187
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: with their fight because it's only two minutes, but it is.

1188
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: It's less pay and it's more punishment. You're taken and

1189
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 1: the women are used to fighting too, so the pace

1190
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: will slow down.

1191
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

1192
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of torn on it, but I probably

1193
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: feel more the way you do than any other opinion.

1194
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: This is it like never fought a trilogy, but in

1195
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: rematches and in trilogies, it's all about adjustments. You knew

1196
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: that you could have fought a different fight the first

1197
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: two fights, but you had you had a point to prove,

1198
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: but you made those adjustments in the third fight. MSG.

1199
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you know the Puerto Rican fans were out,

1200
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: the Irish frans. I mean it was it was electric.

1201
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: Called that fight a ring side for Netflix, and I

1202
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: mean I was just looking up at the crowd before

1203
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: you guys came out, and it was just it was electric,

1204
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: like it was a it was an all time great

1205
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: like moment and scene. It felt like something out of

1206
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: a movie when you watch a boxing movie. Yeah, and

1207
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: it's like they're trying to make the fight big, Like

1208
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: that's what that was. But you came in there and

1209
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: you fought a different fight. Talk to me about the

1210
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: adjustments you made and why you were able to stay

1211
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: disciplined for the third fight and not get drawn into

1212
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: the same type of fight.

1213
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, it is all about it justments,

1214
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 2: isn't in the rematches and for the I always laugh

1215
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: from my coach now Ross, and I'm always saying, I

1216
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 2: actually finally did what I was told to do and

1217
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 2: then thank you exactly. I actually stoked to me boxing,

1218
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 2: And this is something that we were preparing for all

1219
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 2: all Altrail come. Really just staying disciplined, even in the

1220
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: spars sessions when you're tired, you have to stay disciplined,

1221
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 2: and you can have a tendency sometimes just it's just

1222
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 2: to be lazy in the spars and whatever. I'm just

1223
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 2: gonna stand here and fight today. But I was actually

1224
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 2: switched on a bit more during this training camp and

1225
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 2: I was actually being a bit more discipline even in

1226
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 2: the spars. I'm gonna I'm gonna continue to move my legs,

1227
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to continue to faint and I stay disciplined

1228
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 2: and that obviously that's obviously how you prepare for these fights.

1229
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: And yeah, so I'm so happy that I was able

1230
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 2: to show okay, so and I heard that the crowd

1231
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 2: beyond during the Duram Wander rounds. Yes, I'm actually it's

1232
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: actually working.

1233
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but don't they don't have a right to boo

1234
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: giving what you guys have already given. And it wasn't.

1235
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: It wasn't a boring fight, yeah it was. It was

1236
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: a different fight. It wasn't a born fight. And it

1237
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: was cool seeing those adjustments, knowing what the first twenty

1238
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: rounds were, Yeah, exactly, It's like, wow, they have more

1239
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: in their bag. They can actually do something different. So

1240
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: that was powerful, you know, for me to see that adjustment,

1241
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: knowing that the history, knowing the things that were said

1242
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: going into the very fight, like, as a fighter, you

1243
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: want to fight and shut the other person out, improve something.

1244
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: But I respected that that that you proved it in

1245
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: a different way.

1246
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And I was able to to see your

1247
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 2: game game found very very well. Keep my job going

1248
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 2: and it was very cagional. I not much having really no.

1249
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 2: I know big points is really longer the during the

1250
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 2: during the last fight, but I think everything that was

1251
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 2: a cheer of victory.

1252
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: There was no hospital visits. My head is not hurting

1253
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: the next week.

1254
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 2: Exactly on touchdowns like the second. I like those nights.

1255
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 2: That's a good night exactly.

1256
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: Did Amanda say anything to you after the fight? You

1257
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: has to have conversation like any real conversation.

1258
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,919
Speaker 2: Not really. We have a lot of respect towards each other.

1259
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: You believe that it's genuine respect.

1260
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah, I think it's quite mutual. Like

1261
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 2: I said, we share a piece of history together and

1262
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 2: very very grateful for Amanda to have someone like that

1263
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 2: in my year to share these big moments. Well, yeah,

1264
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 2: very very grateful. And like I said, our names are

1265
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 2: always going to be I guess master for our history.

1266
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is my last one for you.

1267
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: You know, you said it earlier that that this is

1268
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: the end of your career. It's getting to the end

1269
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: of your career. We just talked about it earlier as well.

1270
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: You've been doing this since you've been a kid. Yeah,

1271
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: very very driven person. Fighters when they fight they have,

1272
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: they have a mission like it's always a mission, it's

1273
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: something next. Okay, I did that, now here's the next mission.

1274
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: And that helps you to keep the fire burning. That

1275
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: fire is not gonna go away when you return. So

1276
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: what have you been thinking about that? And what are

1277
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: your plans to like feed that fire and still be

1278
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: Katie Taylor but but but not be a professional fighter anymore.

1279
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: How are you How do you think you're going to

1280
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: deal with that?

1281
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to deal with it very well. Actually,

1282
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 2: I think I'm very excited about this side of my career.

1283
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 2: Also the season on my of my life and and

1284
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 2: the toss and not getting punched in the face again.

1285
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 2: Is it is very nice that to put your bay

1286
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 2: through torture for months and months for training camp. But

1287
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 2: like I said, the drive is still there and I'm

1288
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 2: still going to be in the gym every day training. Wow. Yeah,

1289
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 2: so I still love to say fair, I still love

1290
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 2: the gym.

1291
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: So you're not gonna be one of those fighters that.

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Speaker 2: We see, I don't think so definitely not. I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to be like I hope not. Anyways, I love

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Speaker 2: the feeling fit and I'm being in shape and and

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to enjoy, enjoy life, enjoy for this labor,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know where my life is going to be.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm going to do. I think

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Speaker 2: it will be strange to separate from the sport altogether.

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Speaker 2: I think I'd love to stay involved in some way.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what that's gonna look like right now,

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Speaker 2: but I would still love to stay involved in some

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Speaker 2: way because this has been my license. Of the nine

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Speaker 2: or ten year olds, what about yourself? You, how do

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01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 2: you keep yourself? You've always had this podcast going for

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: For me, it's been it's been interesting, you know. I

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Speaker 1: think I think retirement has been one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: things that I've experienced, but it's been been also very

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Speaker 1: tough because I'm also very driven, also have a fire,

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Speaker 1: and but I think number one my relationship with God,

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Speaker 1: like knowing that boxing is like not my full identity. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: There's other things that God has me doing, and I've

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Speaker 1: just learned to take that same drive, that same work ethic,

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01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: the same mental lock in that I get, and just

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Speaker 1: apply it to other things my family, my relationships, business ventures,

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Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that. So that's been very, very

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Speaker 1: helpful for me. And then, like you said, staying close

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Speaker 1: to the sport, so like commentating, mentoring young fighters, that

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01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: feeds me. So I'm not getting in there anymore, but

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Speaker 1: I'm close enough now, not taking any more punches, but

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Speaker 1: I'm close enough where it still feeds me and it

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Speaker 1: satisfies me. And then the other thing is, you know,

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Speaker 1: like you said about legacy, like there's not a lot

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Speaker 1: of fighters that walked away on their own terms. And

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Speaker 1: when I was young, coming up, I would look for

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Speaker 1: them like, man, is he gonna do it? Is he

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Speaker 1: gonna do it? And my coach he said, baby, it's

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Speaker 1: just not a lot of he said, it's not a

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Speaker 1: lot of fighters that did it. But you're going to

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Speaker 1: be one of them. And I just want to stay

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Speaker 1: true to that. I want to be one of the

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Speaker 1: ones that fighters can look to and say, man, I

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Speaker 1: want to try to Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Because I remember you speaking about Ray

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Speaker 2: Jones before I'm saying we went too far. It is

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Speaker 2: tough to see because right Jones could have been considered

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Speaker 2: the greatest of all time. But when you talk to

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Speaker 2: which five would you say to a few? Yeah, ye,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I definitely to be one of those fiders

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Speaker 2: where I get out of the sport on top of

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Speaker 2: my game and m yeah, But like that, I'm very

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Speaker 2: very excited at this aspect of your life as well.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, with my relationship with godless everything,

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01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 2: and I think if you're building your life and accolades

1345
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 2: and achievements, you're just you'll still find out that's not

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01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 2: a strong enough foundation to build your life on. So

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01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 2: I'm very very grateful to have this relationship with with

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01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 2: with Goland. And that's basically basically my whole life. And

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01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 2: you're you're going to chose your hearing the word of God.

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Speaker 2: You're you know that my identity is in I'm actually

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01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 2: the daughter of the Most High and the king kings

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01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 2: and Lord of lords, and I'm his kid. And that's

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01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 2: why that's my identity. And it helps you make sense

1354
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 2: of everything doesn't help. It helps to make sense of

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01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 2: the world, and it helps you to know the limits

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01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 2: of success as well. It's not everything, it's all. It's

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01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 2: just there's so much more to this life and this world.

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01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 2: And and like I said, it is a world view.

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01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 2: You view the world for the lens of God. Is

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01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 2: real that Jesus is a real historical figure. He'll live

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01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 2: to breathe and died and rose again. And that's an

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01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 2: amazing foundation to deliver your life on. I'm so grateful

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Speaker 2: for this, for this relation to have on them.

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Speaker 1: It's powerful stuff. But one one more question. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you reminded me of this. How have you balanced faith

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Speaker 1: in boxing? People outside of boxing, they're like, how can

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01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: you be a believer but yet you hit people? And

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Speaker 1: I've had I've tried to explain it to him, But

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Speaker 1: how have you balanced faith but also being a warrior?

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Speaker 2: Well, I believe that this is a guy gift that

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Speaker 2: God has given me and so and that's where my

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Speaker 2: mind motivation comes from as well. I've always had a

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01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 2: different conviction, probably been stilled by my parents. You only

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01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 2: get a one shot on this side of eternity, and

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01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 2: you want to make your life count, and not for

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01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 2: achievements or a great but because I'm a healthy, fortunate

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01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 2: woman with gives some talents. And like I said earlier on,

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01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 2: it would be an insult to God to sit back

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01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 2: and be late what it gives give. And so I

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Speaker 2: don't know about everybody else, but I'm going to make

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Speaker 2: this life count and it's a sport. It's a very

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01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 2: very rough sport, but I love it. I love this journey.

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01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 2: I love I love what it teaches you and the

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01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 2: sacrifices that you need. A character bills. You read the

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01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 2: word of God and look at the life the day

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Speaker 2: for example, look at the life of the life of

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Speaker 2: these amazing disciples. They're just they're they're hardcore, there excellence

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01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 2: and believe will to die for absolutely, And it's so

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01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 2: inspiring to read about those stories as well. And I

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01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 2: guess strength from that. And one of my favorite scriptures

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01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 2: is sam Etheen. This is the sam that I read

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Speaker 2: on my have my on my boxing. Here is one

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01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 2: of Davis, Sam's Davis one of my favorites in the Bible.

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Speaker 2: He is known to be a man after God's own heart.

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01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 2: But I also love his warriors heart as what his

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01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 2: warriors spirit. And I's got his strength. He makes me

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Speaker 2: way perfect, He makes my feet like the field of

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01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 2: the ear. He trains my hands for a battle. My

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01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 2: arms can better bow bronze. You give me a shield

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01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 2: of victory and your right hands to stains me. And

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01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 2: he stoop down to may be great. And I first

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01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 2: read that sam As the seventeen year old when my

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01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: tears are rolling down my face as as I was

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01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: reading and I just read your resonated with me and

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01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: cans soup down to make it grat and I just

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01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,560
Speaker 2: really felt like God always give me a platform to

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01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 2: to spay my gifts. And I think it's important to

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01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 2: God what you do with it, with the gifts that

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01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 2: he's given you, and he wants you to do so,

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01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 2: he wants you to work hard and and yeah, I want,

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01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 2: I want to live for him.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's powerful. That's powerful. I'm getting goosebumps. It's powerful, Champ.

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01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: You've earned the right to do whatever you want to do.

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01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: Next we'll be watching, we'll be supporting you. And you know,

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01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: boxing is just a small part of your life too.

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01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: You know when once boxing ends, the next phase is

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01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 1: going to begin, and that's when it's gonna get fun.

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01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, really, You've already had impact, but it's going to

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01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 1: be impacting a different way now. So continue to stay

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01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 1: faithful to God, continue to stay faithful to your beliefs.

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01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: Man and great things up here.

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01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 2: Thank you so much to ye, thank you, thank you

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01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 2: so much. M m

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Speaker 1: M HM