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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in our number two Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show. We'll take some of your calls here

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Speaker 1: as we roll through this hour eight hundred and two

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Speaker 1: two two eight eight two. We also in the third hour,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk with my friend John Rich, country

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Speaker 1: music superstar. He's got a cool new song he's going

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Speaker 1: to be debuting as part of the sports Landscape. I

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Speaker 1: think you guys will enjoy that. But as we start

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Speaker 1: off the second hour here, try to be as honest

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Speaker 1: with you guys on a daily basis as I can.

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Speaker 1: So you could imagine this morning when I was going

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Speaker 1: through the mail and I see that I have received

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Speaker 1: buck for the first time ever and irs audit notice.

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Speaker 2: Now. I bring this up because.

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Speaker 1: One of the first things I was told when you

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Speaker 1: and I started this show in twenty twenty one was

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Speaker 1: expect that you were you will be audited every year

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Speaker 1: when there is a Democrat in office. And I kind

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Speaker 1: of just laughed it off. I was like, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I've never been audited before. I'm not anticipating that I

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Speaker 2: I mean I'm forty four.

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Speaker 1: I've been filing tax returns for twenty five, twenty six years,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is at this point. And I got an

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Speaker 1: audit notice this morning. I saw it on my counter.

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Speaker 1: They come in the mail for those of you who

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Speaker 1: have never received one. And we now have a meeting

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Speaker 1: that's going to be scheduled with an IRS agent in

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Speaker 1: the future. Now, a couple of things that immediately jump

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Speaker 1: out to me. I'm not independently wealthy, so my parents

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Speaker 1: never made more than fifty thousand dollars a year. So

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Speaker 1: it's not like I've got hundreds of millions of dollars

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Speaker 1: in assets that I inherited sitting off at some offshore

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Speaker 1: account that I haven't been paying taxes. Pretty much, I

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Speaker 1: pay taxes on what I directly earn. In fact, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty much the case in general. My wife does not

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Speaker 1: make a massive income. Everything that I pay is something

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Speaker 1: that I have made in my own life. I haven't

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Speaker 1: inherited some massive sum of money that's making my tax

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Speaker 1: returns complicated. And so I don't think that there's any

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Speaker 1: way that this is coincidental that I've been doing talk

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Speaker 1: radio for fifteen years. I've been in the media primarily

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Speaker 1: So it's not like this is the first time where

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Speaker 1: I've ever turned in a tax return and had to

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Speaker 1: pay a lot of taxes.

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Speaker 2: And I have paid a lot of taxes.

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Speaker 1: Trust me, When I write that check for the IRS,

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Speaker 1: it definitely creates heartburn because I know that it's going

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Speaker 1: and it mostly, in my opinion, going to be wasted by

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Speaker 1: the federal government. I think I could use it better,

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Speaker 1: but I know a lot of you feel that same way.

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Speaker 1: But this is I think, just emblematic of the two

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Speaker 1: tiers of justice that exists. Because as soon as I

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, the President's son, has refused to pay taxes

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Speaker 1: for multiple years on millions of dollars in foreign income

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Speaker 1: that he got trading on the Biden name. And he's

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Speaker 1: actually even got the audacity this week to write an

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Speaker 1: of his politics and it's being weaponized against him, and

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Speaker 1: that they're taking advantage of his drug addled state to

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Speaker 1: try to make him look like a criminal. And I

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Speaker 1: just sit here and I think, who the IRS knows

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Speaker 1: what I do for a living. And as soon as

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Speaker 1: I enter into politics officially and start to talk about

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Speaker 1: the administration in power Joe Biden, I immediately get an

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Speaker 2: It's worse than you say. And and I'm sitting here,

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Speaker 2: of course, and you know not not to make this,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm I'm ride or die with my buddy Clay,

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Speaker 2: no matter what. So as soon as he got this,

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Speaker 2: just little old me, you know, leave me alone. Clay.

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Speaker 2: It's not just what you said, though, it's actually worse

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Speaker 2: audited by the government, is whether or not you kind

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Speaker 2: of get into the into the mix in the first place, right,

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Speaker 2: whether you get on the radar. I guess you could say,

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Speaker 2: it's not like you're on the radar and it's just political.

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Speaker 2: And Hunter never made it to the radar. Hunter was

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Speaker 2: not pay taxes, correct, and they sat to run out

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Speaker 2: the statute of limitations for his benefit. Correct. So this

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Speaker 2: is not just like Clay gets audited, but like Hunter didn't. Oops,

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Speaker 2: because they'll say that's just the luck of the draw. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: there's no of the draw here with regard to Hunter. Hunter,

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Speaker 2: they was clearly doing first of all, the tax evasion.

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Speaker 2: Probably can get him on money waundering too. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if they want to do no doubt completely completely, you know,

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Speaker 2: right because if whoever's investigating it on the federal side.

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Speaker 2: If they sit and they say, well, we're just gonna

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's all she wrote. Now no one else

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Speaker 2: the tax charges, at least the worst, the most serious

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Speaker 2: of the tax charges. And yeah, no, there's no there's

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Speaker 1: So yeah, he didn't even file, right, I mean, I filed,

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Speaker 2: To your point, Buck, the process is.

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Speaker 1: The punishment in many ways, like the fact that they

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Speaker 2: So I've been audited every year in New York since I.

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Speaker 3: Moved out, the last three years to five, six and seven,

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Speaker 3: and I just got another request for documents. That is

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Speaker 3: the most outrageous form of harassment. I've already proved to

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Speaker 2: Different ways.

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Speaker 3: Where I have been in this country every day for

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Speaker 2: Fourteen different ways they have asked for things. It's just

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Speaker 1: Now I feel fortunate that I live in Tennessee, so

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Speaker 1: But this is the federal government that is, you know,

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Speaker 1: And again I'll just point out I had a big

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Speaker 2: With russ As you heard there it was actually I mean,

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Speaker 2: but it was New York State, right, which you know.

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Speaker 2: Folks see the palm trees. I'm in Florida. I am

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Speaker 1: We're gonna in California too, they're talking about tracking you

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Speaker 2: Which is just I mean, it's just insane. Look, it's

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Speaker 2: you'll get all these podcasts. And she was on that show.

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Speaker 2: what New York is doing, which is chasing. You don't

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Speaker 2: need to lose that many high earners in New York

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Speaker 2: you realize you've got you've got a real problem. So,

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Speaker 2: you know, people, I'm just gonna say this, in a

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Speaker 2: There's a problem here. In a free society, people who

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Speaker 2: you know. But they don't feel that way here. And

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Speaker 2: they don't feel that way here, not just in the

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Speaker 2: Look a lot, a lot of ten Thanks for calling,

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Speaker 5: Okay, guys, you said that inflation cannot be reversed. It

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Speaker 2: I know it's that inflation.

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Speaker 1: What I said is what I said is the pricing

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Speaker 1: You can end up with stagflation or something like that.

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Speaker 5: Then No, what happens is it goes down a few

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Speaker 5: what I mean? What's what caused the inflation this time?

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Speaker 5: High oil prices and high gas prices. What will happen

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Speaker 2: It's I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 1: What you're paying, what you're paying for groceries is not

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Speaker 1: going to go back down. You're not suddenly going to

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck, Sexton, show Buck.

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Speaker 2: This just happened, or at least I just became aware

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Speaker 1: You know my million dollar challenge to the WNBA, where

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Speaker 2: This thing's everywhere.

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Speaker 1: You might have even heard your kids are grandkids talking

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Speaker 1: Pat Beverly, you take the w NBA team. He's rich,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, high school boys state champion team. I said I

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Speaker 1: Speaking of quiet, New York State ran out We talked

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Speaker 1: New polls are out. We had Attorney General Cameron on

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Speaker 6: through this. Let's take a deep breath and actually get

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Speaker 6: the facts before we ask a governor to resign.

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Speaker 2: So would you be running against him right now?

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Speaker 1: If if?

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Speaker 2: Probably probably would even with him sitting in office. Probably,

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Speaker 2: And you think some other Democrats should do that.

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Speaker 6: I think he should be a Democratic.

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Speaker 2: So a few things here. First of all, you'll notice

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Speaker 2: he's bringing up the derogation of of of sexual assault

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Speaker 2: forcible sexual assault against Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: Significant than anything that was alleged against him far.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know in terms of DETAI mean you're

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Speaker 2: talking right, I mean, you're what is alleged against Biden

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Speaker 2: is a crime. What I mean. I guess maybe you

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Speaker 2: could try to say, like touching someone's stomach or something

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Speaker 2: as you walk past them. But I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't think.

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Speaker 1: Anything relatively minor uh normal violations of protocol than it

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Speaker 1: is violation of the law at worst, I would say

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Speaker 1: for it.

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Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, it's a lot of people

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Speaker 2: like the seriousness with which they take some of these allegations.

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Speaker 2: Somehow always corresponds with their politics. You know, it's like

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Speaker 2: if they like someone politically, well then it's like not

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Speaker 2: that serious. But if they don't like someone politically, it's

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Speaker 2: very serious, of course. And and you know vice versa.

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Speaker 2: But Cuomo here going, you know, bringing up this thing

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Speaker 2: about Biden, and also I think preparing here's what I see.

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Speaker 2: All right, tell me this this subs. You've always said

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Speaker 2: that he resigned because that allowed him to to effectively

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Speaker 2: politically live to fight another day. Right, that's why he

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Speaker 2: got forced out, right, if he got forced out by

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Speaker 2: vote of the legislature of New York State. Well, now

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Speaker 2: he's like the first guy that that's happened to you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe the first ever I can remember now,

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Speaker 2: but it's been a long time. But now he's making

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Speaker 2: the comeback. But I think Clay, what he's saying, what

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Speaker 2: he's seeing here, what he's pointing out or getting to,

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Speaker 2: is we all know Biden is week. I do think

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Speaker 2: Biden is their nominee. Looks like that's going to happen. However,

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Speaker 2: Biden loses, there's a wide open Democrat field. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 2: a wide open Democrat field for leadership. Really of the

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Speaker 2: Democrat Party, never mind just for the presidency in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty eight or for the next presidential contest. And I

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Speaker 2: think Cuomo wants to have a voice in that. I

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Speaker 2: think he believes he can and and I think he

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Speaker 2: sees a if Biden is gone, If Biden loses, there

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Speaker 2: will be a Democrat political realignment that occurs that you know,

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Speaker 2: who's definitely gonna who's definitely gonna have some some beef

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Speaker 2: little issues newsombon Cuomo. I think those two guys are

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Speaker 2: gonna be staring at each other from across, from across

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Speaker 2: the table, thinking who's really calling the shots here?

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Speaker 1: Well, the most interesting thing about this, Cuomo comments to me, Buck,

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Speaker 1: is he is effectively and I didn't think about this

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Speaker 1: at the time, saying I would be running against him.

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Speaker 1: Do you think if Cuomo had stayed in office he

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Speaker 1: would have won reelection?

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Speaker 2: Right? I mean he would have.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Kathy hokel maybe have been closed five to

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Speaker 1: six points, but I think Cuomo would have won, even

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Speaker 1: though Lezelden ran a great campaign. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: he would actually be running against Biden? And do you

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Speaker 1: think that could have factored in in terms of the

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Speaker 1: way that Biden responded to this because I hadn't really

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Speaker 1: thought about that angle. You know, I don't think that

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Speaker 1: if I don't think that if he were still the

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Speaker 1: governor of New York, he would have mounted a full

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Speaker 1: fledged challenge against a sitting Democrat and common President for

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Speaker 1: the exact same reasons.

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Speaker 2: Everybody has not done it. That's right that Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 2: hasn't done it because no matter what you're talking about,

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Speaker 2: creating an expenditure of resources, effort, and time within the

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Speaker 2: party that is would be considered unnecessary. Or this is

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Speaker 2: why I said, the power of the incumbency is so strong,

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Speaker 2: not just because of the elevated perch that a president

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Speaker 2: sits in for running for reelection, but also the machinery

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Speaker 2: around him wants no challenges from within the Democrat Party, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean the moment that you actually have a real

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Speaker 2: challenge and the asn't aside to everybody. I remember, I

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Speaker 2: remember some people a little bit, a little bit rough

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Speaker 2: on me for being a little rough on RFK Junior

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Speaker 2: in the beginning. RFK Junior clearly will pull more votes

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Speaker 2: from Trump and Biden. Based on theatest the latest data,

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Speaker 2: RFK Junior's third party candidacy helps Biden hurts Trump if

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Speaker 2: he goes forward with it. That is what the data

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Speaker 2: say if he gets on the ballots.

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Speaker 1: And we haven't talked about this a lot, but I

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Speaker 1: bet next week we'll talk about it more. The other

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Speaker 1: thing to think about out there on the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four race is Colorado is currently having a trial to

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Speaker 1: determine whether Donald Trump is allowed to be on their

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Speaker 1: ballot as the Republican representative for the state. And if

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Speaker 1: Colorado has some success with this argument, there's already talk

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Speaker 1: that Michigan would do the same and some of the

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Speaker 1: other toss up states. This is going to end up,

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Speaker 1: I think, at the Supreme Court before all is said

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Speaker 1: and done, because they're trying to argue that Trump is

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Speaker 1: not eligible to run based on based on laws that

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Speaker 1: passed to try to keep former Confederate soldiers from being

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Speaker 1: able to run for elective office.

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Speaker 2: Well, they've said is as we all know, they've they've

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Speaker 2: created this narrative and pushed it very hard that January

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Speaker 2: sixth was the biggest threat to the country since the

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Speaker 2: Civil War. Yeah, a bigger threat than nine to eleven,

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Speaker 2: a bigger threat than Pearl Harbor. I mean which truly

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Speaker 2: deranged positions. But they have had prominent people those make

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Speaker 2: that case publicly, and they really want to try to

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Speaker 2: tie it to the threat that the Union faced or

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Speaker 2: the threat that you know, the country faced during the

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Speaker 2: Civil War. I think that those challenges play are unlikely

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Speaker 2: to be successful in the end. But it also shows

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Speaker 2: the mentality here, which is doing everything possible to prevent

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Speaker 2: ultimately what we see is whether it's the criminal charges,

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Speaker 2: the civil trial in New York which you know is

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Speaker 2: still ongoing and Trump kids are now testifying and Don

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Speaker 2: Junior was there yesterday, anything to prevent the American people

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Speaker 2: from being able to decide do they want Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: be president again for four years? Like shouldn't that be

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Speaker 2: the isn't this ultimately all just a political question? Shouldn't

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Speaker 2: it be a political question? Yeah? Do a majority of

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Speaker 2: the American people in the system we have, you know,

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Speaker 2: with the electoral college, et cetera, et cetera, want Donald Trump?

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Speaker 2: Yes or no? And they won't let us answer that question.

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Speaker 1: Well, the biggest threat to democracy is actually not allowing

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Speaker 1: people to elect the person that they would choose.

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Speaker 2: That they are setting this up so that really what

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Speaker 2: they believe is the biggest threat to democracy is democracy, Yes,

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Speaker 2: letting people choose.

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Speaker 1: That's the biggest threat is the choice, which is why

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Speaker 1: it's ultimately such a lie. And also when we played

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Speaker 1: that Jamal Bowman audio for you a little bit ago,

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Speaker 1: why it's also funny that he said, well, we've got

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Speaker 1: to move on. And my response would be, well, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute. You've spent two years arguing that January sixth

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Speaker 1: is such a you know, transcendent threat to American democracy

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Speaker 1: that it has to be trumpeted high from the hills

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Speaker 1: every single day. You want your pulling the fire alarm

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Speaker 1: you did it, when it's clear that you lied about

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Speaker 1: why you did it. I would argue that the precedent

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Speaker 2: you have breaking news there, Claire, I was gonna think,

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Speaker 2: I think we're good. We can make fun of Kamala.

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure we hadn't gotten any

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Speaker 2: But no, it's Mork Commell. We We had mentioned that

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Speaker 2: just you know, it looks like there's you know, and

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Speaker 2: think you know, Clay, on the one end, I think

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Speaker 2: Democrats have recognized that all this, all the legal machinations

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Speaker 2: against Trump have strengthened Trump up to this point, had

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Speaker 2: they really have remarkably strengthened him politically, and maybe none

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Speaker 2: of us is actually going to stop it. And I

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Speaker 2: think there's a part of them that maybe you're just recognizing,

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Speaker 2: like they have created this Trump is like Frankenstein, Frankenstein's

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Speaker 2: monster here. But I know, whenever you said that other

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Speaker 2: people is doctor Frankenstein the monster. I know, I know,

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Speaker 2: But you know it's actually good. You ever read the book,

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Speaker 2: It's very good, very good novel. Yeah, we read it

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Speaker 2: back in the day. I think my boys are reading

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Speaker 2: it right now. So it's very acular.

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Speaker 1: It's also the Frankenstein book very different than Frankenstein in

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Speaker 1: popular culture.

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Speaker 2: Very different, which is a whole other thing. Actually, I

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Speaker 2: think they do a better job kind of depicting it

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Speaker 2: in not Peaky Blinders, which is the show that I love,

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Speaker 2: Penny Dreadful, which is another show that actually liked more

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Speaker 2: than I thought that I would, which was on I

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Speaker 2: think it was like Cinemax years ago. It's kind of

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Speaker 2: like a horror Actually, well, Halloween's gone now, but if

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Speaker 2: you're looking for kind of a horror genre, it'd be good,

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Speaker 2: all right, all right, So we were mentioning the situation

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Speaker 2: here of Vice President Harris, and she is trying to

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk more, you know, about the serious situation

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Speaker 2: going on in the Middle East in a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But first up, why am I so confident Joe Biden's

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Speaker 2: gonna be the nominee? Why you ask, Well, I present

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Speaker 2: to you the Vice President, Kamala Harris, Play seventeen.

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Speaker 7: We must stand by the role of the United States

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Speaker 7: as it relates to our global responsibility to uphold and

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Speaker 7: defend international rules and norms and what is right.

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Speaker 1: And so our.

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Speaker 7: Proposal is that there be aid given to both places,

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Speaker 7: to Israel and to Ukraine, and we are standing by that.

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Speaker 7: As you have said, President has been very clear if

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Speaker 7: any bifurcation of that should occur, he will vetell the

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Speaker 7: bill that you have referred to. But let's also be

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Speaker 7: clear that these folks who want to be considered as

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Speaker 7: leaders in the midst of global crises of a proportion,

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Speaker 7: we have not seen in a very long time, are

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Speaker 7: playing political games with people.

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Speaker 2: I mean I almost fell asleep. I think, Clay, if

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Speaker 2: you got Kamala Harris to do the like halftime coach

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Speaker 2: speech for any of you know, any college athletic endeavor,

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Speaker 2: you would be very safe betting against that team to

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Speaker 2: win the game in the second half.

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Speaker 1: The way to think about Kamala Harris is she's the

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Speaker 1: kid in school and probably it has been many of

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Speaker 1: you who has to hit a word limit on her

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Speaker 1: paper and doesn't have enough words to hit the word limit,

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Speaker 1: because she could easily have said instead of that huge discussion,

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Speaker 1: because this is the debate now, should there be linked

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Speaker 1: aid for Israel and Ukraine? The White House position is

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Speaker 1: that that should be the same bill. What is that

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Speaker 1: one sentence and that is not very complicated. But she

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Speaker 1: manages to make things that aren't very complicated difficult to

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Speaker 1: understand and comprehend, which is the exact opposite of what

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Speaker 1: a good leader should do. By the way, Mark in

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania has some advice for me here, buck Mark, what

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Speaker 1: you got, hey?

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Speaker 8: What comes to being holdered many years ago? Because I

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Speaker 8: got a few years on you guys. It used to

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Speaker 8: be a late night host who used to talk and

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Speaker 8: sent everyday life stuff and he was very successful businessman.

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Speaker 8: And the one thing he said about an audit, he says,

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Speaker 8: you never go to the audit to the irs. You

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Speaker 8: send your representative tax attorney, because when they started asking

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Speaker 8: you questions, just like the FBI, if you're not consistent

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Speaker 8: with your answers, you're going to get in more trouble.

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Speaker 8: So your your representative says, I'll get back my client

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Speaker 8: and get you an answer. That's that's how you handle

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Speaker 8: a real hard audit like out Rush ever went actually

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Speaker 8: through his audits. I'm sure he had plenty of tax attorneys.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's great advice, and thank you for the call,

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Speaker 1: and I probably will take that advice. You know, what

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Speaker 1: it's designed to do. The process is the punishment, as

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Speaker 1: you like to say. Look, it's going to cost me

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Speaker 1: probably several hundred thousand dollars to demonstrate that I paid

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars in taxes to the federal government accurately,

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Speaker 1: and I desperately know.

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Speaker 2: I one hundred percent know this. Buck.

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Speaker 1: If I was still doing sports talk radio, I never

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Speaker 1: would have gotten audit.

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Speaker 2: But your dad's not Joe Biden, so that's kind of

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Speaker 2: your felt. No, I'm screwed without read