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Speaker 1: the straded beer of normalcy. All right, Welcome into a

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Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: Kansas City already trying to save cap space or create

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Speaker 1: So they're already hard. We're creating cap space for their

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Speaker 1: offseason to do a list. The Bills brought back a

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Speaker 1: According to NFL Networks, Tom Pella sero important guy to

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Speaker 1: In his four years on the roster after they made

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Speaker 1: to pay him a handsome amount of money millions of

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Speaker 1: dollars reportedly to be quiet and sign off on that.

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Speaker 1: He refused, basically told Brian Gumble just signing that separation

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Speaker 1: agreement would have really silenced me, and he's right if

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Speaker 1: that in fact was the case. So then the Dolphins

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00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 1: come out and they basically say the following this latest

431
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: desertion by Brian Flores, that Steve Ross mentioned a non

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Speaker 1: disclosure agreement to him is categorically false. The team said

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Speaker 1: in a statement, this just did not happen, and we

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Speaker 1: simply cannot understand why Brian continues this pattern of making

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00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: unfounded statements that he knows are untrue. And then they

436
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Speaker 1: go into how they're cooperating with the NFL with their investigation. YadA, YadA, YadA.

437
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: Flores's attorneys respond with a screenshot of a copy of

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Speaker 1: the non disclosure agreement that was put in front of

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Speaker 1: Brian Florenes, Holy mackerel, like, hello, Dolphins, what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Did you forget? You handed him a copy? Holy cow?

441
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: Oh my god? How did Steve? I'm gonna ask you

442
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: a question. Okay, how you feeling right about now? If

443
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Speaker 1: you're Mike McDaniel, the new head coach of the Miami Dolphins,

444
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Speaker 1: you might be working for a team that doesn't have

445
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 1: an owner in six months. You're yeah, you're trying not

446
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Speaker 1: to think about it. You're just keep your head. You

447
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 1: put your nose up against the grindstone and you start peddling. Um,

448
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: he's peddling up hill and he's dragging a boulder behind

449
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: him on his ten side. This though, for for McDaniels,

450
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: he's he doesn't have to worry about any of this.

451
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: He's moving forward and so is the club, and they're

452
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: in a different spot than the franchise was. This is

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Speaker 1: a black Bryant Charlie brown cloud right. Yeah. And here's

454
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: the thing too, it's a little bit I don't know

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Speaker 1: naive to think this is the first non disclosure agreement

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Speaker 1: ever offered to a departing head coach. I would imagine, Oh,

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00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: there have been others it's it's almost commonplace. I would say,

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00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't you say? Yes? Um, I know this. It happens

459
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Speaker 1: in all realms of business, right, you know, top flight CEOs,

460
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: they get their golden parasutes, see them disclosure agreement. All

461
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Speaker 1: you gotta do is the Dolphins just say this. Listen,

462
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: it was. It was just nondisclosure agreement, like we do

463
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Speaker 1: with all of our departing employees, most of our deploying,

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00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: high level departing employees. There's no big deal. It's what

465
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: we always do. If you want to make a big

466
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: deal out of it, fine, but don Shula signed one.

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00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: You know, I might say that to come out and

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00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: categorically deny that you ever put one in front of it.

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Speaker 1: The best is when Flores's lawyer on social media comes

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Speaker 1: out with screenshots of the actual agreement, denying that you

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Speaker 1: ever did something that you actually did is stupid. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh. So yeah, I don't know about you, but this.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who their PR who their PR people

474
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Speaker 1: are down there, but I know this. Harvey Green would

475
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Speaker 1: have handled it different, And I just you can't let

476
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Speaker 1: the you can't put the genie back in the bottle

477
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: and once it's out. You got to deal with it

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Speaker 1: and do it in the best way. You put on

479
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: a brave face if you have to, but don't let

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Speaker 1: them catch you with your pants down. And right now

481
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: they're on a nude beach and let me tell you something.

482
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: They look awful. Yeah, it doesn't look good. They are

483
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Speaker 1: out of shape. So listen, this this stuff with the

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Speaker 1: with the dolphins and all that is. You know, this

485
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: is side It's a side issue from what the real

486
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 1: deal is. That was how Brian Flores got treated. Why

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Speaker 1: he got I don't know why the guy got fired

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Speaker 1: in the first place. He was a winning coach, had

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Speaker 1: two winning records with a roster that, by and large

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Speaker 1: and by rumor's sake, he didn't want the guy pulling

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Speaker 1: the trigger. He wanted the guy that won Offensive k

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Speaker 1: of the Year. Then he won with a pathetic roster

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00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: that they put together for him, and then they fire him.

494
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: They won eight of their last nine games down the stretch, Steve,

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00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: and he got canned. He's the best thing that I

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Speaker 1: saw on social media after Brian Flores got fired was mccordy,

497
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Speaker 1: the veteran safety. After the firing, he tweets, wow, yeah, yeah,

498
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: the players are like on what I mean, they, by

499
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: all accounts, the players were playing hard for the guy.

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Speaker 1: They liked the guy, they were they were all in

501
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: with the guy, and they got him. He got them

502
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: and they got him. He had his finger right on

503
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: the pulse of the team, right on their carotid ardor

504
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: he knew what they were thinking and he could he

505
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: could do it. You can say what you want about

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00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: the two A Tonga blowest situation and who wanted to

507
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: draft him and who didn't want to draft all that stuff.

508
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: Brian Flores, without question maximized the guys in the Miami

509
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Speaker 1: Dolphy roster, Miami Dolphin roster to win games. And that's

510
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: what a head coach is supposed to do. And they

511
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: fired him for it. And while you might say this

512
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: whole stuff that's going on with the class action lawsuit

513
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: and Stephen Ross is a side issue, it isn't a

514
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: side issue in the off season when you're not playing games,

515
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: you don't have the games in the season to serve

516
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: as a distraction. This is front age news in Miami

517
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: and it's not changing anytime soon. I mean, the reporters

518
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: down there, they do good work. They're gonna be chewing

519
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: on this like a dog on a bone for the

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00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: next few months. It's not gonna change. You got an

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00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: an active NFL investigation underway now and now this you

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00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: denied putting a nondisclosure agreement in front of Flores and

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00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: his attorney screenshots a picture of the actual agreement. Holy cow.

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00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how you could do any worse. That

525
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: is a pr nightmare times ten. And there is a

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00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: small part of me, Steve, a small part that feels

527
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: like Stephen A. Smith does with the Cowboys. This is

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00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: how I feel the with the Dolphins. It's like I

529
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: see it online. Yeah, I'm laughing out loud. You couldn't

530
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: do it any worse. Holy mackerel. And I feel for

531
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel. I do because you inherited Oh my gosh,

532
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know what to describe. It's a mess.

533
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: It is a hot mess. I feel more for I

534
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: feel there's a lot of people down there, the players,

535
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: the old former players, the guys, the old timers that

536
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: I know who love that team, level recurring players, and

537
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: the franchise. I feel bad for him because they got

538
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: they got to live with it too, and it has

539
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: It is just not a pretty picture down there, It's

540
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: not a pretty picture. Quickly, before we go to break

541
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: twitter conversation today, what's the next move you want to

542
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: see from the Bills. So ran Neil has agreed to terms,

543
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: he's back in the fold. The Bills have a long

544
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: list of free agents. What do you want to see

545
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: happen next? You let us know at eight fifty one

546
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 1: eighty five fifty two, five fifty. We'll get to your

547
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: phone calls next when we return here on one Bills Live,

548
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: presented by Collat of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio, all right,

549
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: real quick, before we get to the phones. The final

550
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: point I wanted to make on Mike McDaniel as the

551
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: new head coach of the Dolphins was this, Steve. We

552
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: know anytime a prospective head coach is considering taking a

553
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: head coaching job in the NFL, one of the top

554
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: things that he wants to be assured of is stability

555
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: in ownership. And this stuff. I believe, if I have

556
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: the timing right, I think this stuff came out before

557
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: McDaniel took the job. And if that's the case, I'm

558
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: thinking McDaniel and his agent may have negotiated some kind

559
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: of opt out clause because here's the thing. You know,

560
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: Stephen Ross and GM Chris Greer wants you as head coach.

561
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: But what happens when the ownership potentially changes at the top.

562
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: Now you don't have that assurance that this was the

563
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 1: guy that wanted me. Somebody new comes in, they might

564
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: want their own guy. And now now your security, your

565
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: job security has become compromised, potentially at a very early

566
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Speaker 1: stage in your career as a new NFL head coach.

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00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: So I gotta believe the news that there was in

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00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: fact a nondisclosure agreement that the Dolphins tried to get

569
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: Flora's to sign for millions to keep his mouth shut

570
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: only reinforces it only reinforces Brian Flora's allegations that he

571
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: was offered a hundred thousand dollars per game to lose

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00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: on purpose. Why are you putting that in front of him?

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00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: What are you trying? It just it points to Ross

574
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: and the team trying to hide something, and you only

575
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: made it worse by denying you put such a document

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00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: in front of him in the first place. But I

577
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: feel for McDaniel here because I think this could end

578
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: very poorly for him if in fact Steven Ross is

579
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: forced out his owner. I know, I'm going way down

580
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: the line here. It's because we're talking about something that

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00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: might not happen until it's from months from now. It's

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00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: difficult for the NFL to force any owner out. It

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00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: did happen with Jerry Richardson, Jerry richards and down in Carolina.

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00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: But he was very willing to move on. He was ready.

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00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: He says, you know what if if it's gonna he

586
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: just raised his hands said, wait, wait, forget it all

587
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: this time. I'm done with this anyway, I'm gonna move on.

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00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: He was older, he was he was well along in

589
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: years and wanted to divest for the for the sake

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00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: of his family and what it would mean after all

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00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: the things that he hadn't under his you know, on

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00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: his plate. He said, no, no no, no, I'll just I'll

593
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: just move away. So it wasn't like the league forced

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00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: Jerry Richardson to sell the Carolina Panthers over over allegations

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00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: of sexual misconduct. He just he said, just put his

596
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: hand up and said, let's I'll just sell the team.

597
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: It's hard to get a guy to do that unwillingly. So, yeah,

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00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: if it does happen, it's going to take a lot

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00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: of time. Yeah, let's go to the phones. At eight

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Speaker 1: o three oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty

601
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: two five fifty, we saw siran Neil agreed to terms

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00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: to come back to the Bill was on a new

603
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: three year contract. What's the next move you want to

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00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: see from the Bills this offseason? He let us know.

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00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: At eight oh three fifty we lead off today with

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Speaker 1: Robert and Amhurst. What do you have first? Robert, Hey, guys,

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00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. Are just a couple of comments.

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00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: The first one in Brownie kind of stole my thunder

609
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: by mentioning his name just a couple of minutes ago,

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Speaker 1: was I'm a proponent and I liked the one year

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00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: prove it deals, and I thought Stephane Gilmour might be

612
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: an interesting choice to bring back. I'm not sure what

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00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: kind of you know, Bill will or animosity if there

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00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: was any sort of a break up there, but I

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00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: would be interested in your comments on that. But the

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00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: main point was I wanted to talk about tremade Edmunds

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to take a couple of liberties here

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00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: is with Bill's management. Okay, so you guys have talked

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00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: extensively that he does not sit as a rush and

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00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: you can't teach size and speed in the length that

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Speaker 1: he has. Kind of think that, what you know, maybe

622
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: coaching would be able to kind of coach him up there.

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Speaker 1: But if that's not an option, what would you guys

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00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: think about possibly packaging him and our first round pick

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00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: to get up to the early parts you maybe get

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00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle. Yeah, I mean, you can do anything

627
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: that you want in the draft if you think it's

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00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: going to help your football team. I don't see them

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00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: doing that though. I really don't. And thanks for the call, Robert.

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Speaker 1: We were getting some background noise on your phone there,

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00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: so we had to let you go. I don't think

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00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: we ever said Tremaine Edmonds is incapable of rushing off

633
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: the edge. But there seems to be this underground movement

634
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: to move Tremaine Edmonds out of his linebacker role because

635
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: people are unhappy with him. I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 1: They don't feel he makes enough plays. He's got one

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Speaker 1: of the lower mistackle rates among linebackers in the league.

638
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: He's led this team and tackles every season. I understand

639
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: that the big interception type plays tackles for loss, lights

640
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: out hits. These are things that maybe aren't happening with

641
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: the frequency that some Bills fans would prefer. That's your opinion.

642
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: You're entitled to it, and the Bills have a big

643
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: decision to make on him going forward. If you're gonna

644
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: trade with somebody, you know, you got to think out right,

645
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: who's it gonna be. If you trade Tremaine Edmonds and

646
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: who else would hear? Number one pick? What are you

647
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: gonna do? The Carolina Panthers, they're at the number five

648
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: spot or six spot. The Jets aren't going to trade

649
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: with you. The Giants aren't going to trade with you.

650
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: At four and thirteen, maybe the Giants will open up

651
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: a conversation. Please pick up the phone, because you know

652
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: those guys. You think Detroit's gonna trade out of the

653
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: number two spot, Houston, maybe you got a chance getting

654
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: a really good player to go down to jump up

655
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: to number three spot. But you're you're talking about a

656
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: lot of assets and what has been the lynchpin. You

657
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: can say what you want about the thirteen seconds, about

658
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: the way the season ended, all that, but the Buffalo

659
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: Bills had the number one ranked defense in the National

660
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: Football League and you're going to trade away the lynchpin

661
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: of that. To me, that's as outlandish as the Green

662
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: Bay Packers trading the two time defending MVP of the

663
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: soup of the league away to anybody for whatever. And

664
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Speaker 1: you just don't do that kind of stuff for your team.

665
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: And I will tell you Brandon Bean's history very rarely

666
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: involves this team trading away a pretty darn good player

667
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: to fill another hole. They don't create a hole to

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00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: fill another hole via trade. That's just not the way

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00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: Brandon Being operates. And I don't think it's a very

670
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: smart way to do business in this league. It's hard

671
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: enough to fill all the holes on your roster. You

672
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: take Tremaine Emmonds and you trade him, now you've got

673
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 1: a gaping hole right in the middle of your defense

674
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: that you have to account for. Now. Oh, you may

675
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: have a great defensive tackle that you took fifth in

676
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: the draft, but what are you doing a middle linebacker now? Right? Yeah?

677
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Speaker 1: I and I you know, I equated Tremaine Edmonds with

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Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers, because you know, Aaron Rodgers, a guy

679
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: in Green Bay hooth. You might think he wants to

680
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: be traded Tremaine doesn't you know that it's the same likelihood,

681
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 1: and I don't think either one will happen. He's certainly

682
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: a middle linebacker, and we see those guys moved and

683
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: switched teams a lot. But Tremaine Edmonds coming into a

684
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Speaker 1: final year of a contract where he has been a

685
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: two time Pro Bowl player and led two out of

686
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Speaker 1: the last three years. He's led a top five defense,

687
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: a top three defense in the NFL, and this last

688
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: year was a number one defense. I don't know what

689
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 1: people are looking for from him, but certainly he gets

690
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: a lot of credit for the way the defense has played.

691
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: He's he's the leader and the d voice on the team.

692
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: You get that from a lot of the players and

693
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: uh so, Um it's gonna, I think for the remainder

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Speaker 1: of Tremaine Edmund's career here in Buffalo, it's going to

695
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: be a love hate relationship still with with people, even

696
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: though their defense has been elite. Let's go to MT

697
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: and Williams Hill next. Well you got for is empty?

698
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 1: You're on one Bill's life. Hey, how you doing, guys? Good? Um? Yeah,

699
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: I got a bunch of things here. I don't know

700
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: how long you want to take with me to me,

701
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: teams obviously take to get higher draft choices. Every kid

702
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: in a little league or used to anyway gets a trophy.

703
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: And it makes adults crazy because there's takes away competition.

704
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: To me, the best team should get the top threeft

705
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: choices or also have a lottery. You know, equality equit,

706
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: He says. All teams start the same equality or equity nowadays,

707
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: says says, you guys have more than me, so I'll

708
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: take it from you, whether I deserve it or not.

709
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: I would take away the extra point kick. I got

710
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 1: a little kid in the neighborhood. He's eleven years old.

711
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: He can kick extra points and you either run it

712
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: in or pass it in. I wouldn't have any punting.

713
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: I would say. The offense stays on the field for

714
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: four downs to get a first down, and even if

715
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: you get trapped on your own two yard line, that's

716
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: the way it goes. And if you have a no

717
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: field goals unless it's over fifty yards and you get

718
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: one point. And our running backs are if you don't

719
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: have a running back, that's that's terror. That's very fast.

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00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: He better be very big because they get caught from behind.

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00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: It's happened for years since SOLj. Simpson's He was a

722
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: world class spriner. I know it's I know, you don't

723
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: want to say his name anymore, but he's a He

724
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: was a world class spurner. He was one of the

725
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: fastest couple of guys over two hundred yards nowadays. Nowadays

726
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: the real fast guys are one hundred and eighty like

727
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: ter Kill. He's once one hundred and eighty five, you know,

728
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: And and our guys say they a Singletary and the

729
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: moss that you know, maybe they've got to give you

730
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: two yards when you unique, but you know, you know,

731
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: and unless you run Josh Allen, they got to have

732
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: the big lineman behind him pushing him. Well, you know, okay,

733
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: so what's your point? What's your point? He's got a

734
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: lot of points, and we're at a time unfortunately MT

735
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: But I'll just say, Devin Singletary average four point six

736
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: yards to carry this season. He did not average two

737
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: yards um, so he was better than that. And while

738
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: I believe that speed is something they should add to

739
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: the backfield, you know, we'll see what they do in

740
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: the off season. There's a ton of other stuff that

741
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: we got to cover with him. We don't have enough

742
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: time to do it. In this segment, Steve and iwill

743
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: is us the other points that M team made and

744
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: including basically wiping out your face of the game, Steve,

745
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: special teams with no kicking whatsoever. We'll get to that

746
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: when we return here on One Bill's Live. Stag too.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to One Bills Live, Chris Brown,

748
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. Steve, you want to address the

749
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: special teams changes that TC wanted to address, which is basically,

750
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: play all four downs, no punting. Pretty sure MT grew

751
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: up in the fifties. Um yeah, he wanted no punting,

752
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: no extra points, single point case, you gotta go for

753
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: two every time, no punting fourth down if you get

754
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: cut on your two yard line. Get you know, I

755
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: don't think he's thought through exactly what the game would

756
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: look like in that scenario. Nevertheless, Um you know, I

757
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: get it. People want to see the game change, and

758
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: there they think the game is soft now compared to

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00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: what it was back when guys like me and guys

760
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: before me in the sixties and seventies played. Um yeah,

761
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: good luck with that. It's not going to happen. The

762
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: league is convinced and committed, at least at the present

763
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: time to keeping the foot in the game. That means

764
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna kick the ball, punt the ball, they're gonna

765
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: kick off, they're gonna kick field goals. I would I

766
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: would argue that the game would be better and more

767
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: unpredictable and more competitive if you put more of that

768
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: stuff in there, more opportunities for drop kicks for one points, uh,

769
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: kick through the end zones, that kind of stuff. It

770
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: would be more competitive and more fun to watch. Um,

771
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: if you put more of it in there, not less.

772
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: So we can agree to disagree and there. And I'm

773
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: maybe it's crazy, maybe crazier than you are, MT, so

774
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: you certainly are entitled of that opinion about you know,

775
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: making it tougher for teams by making it harder to

776
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: score point. Let's get back to the phones and go

777
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: to Percy and Buffalo next. But yeah, first person here

778
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Life. Hey, how you guys doing good? Heyney?

779
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: I got a comment and a question. My comment is

780
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't understand why m brandon being they keep disrespected

781
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: about Marly by Wallace. I mean, they've been trying to

782
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: replace this guy for three years and all he does

783
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: is beat out his competitor. So my thing is, you know,

784
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: just meet that guy along. I mean, you know, he'll

785
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: get better. I mean, he's not the worst corner in

786
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: the league. And my question is why didn't Brandon being

787
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: take a look at Flores. I understand, you know, the

788
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: controversy with the with the suit and everything, but my

789
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: thing is, at the end of the day, the guy said,

790
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: how about a coach? You know, so if you're you're

791
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: always talking about trust the process, the guy was out there,

792
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: you could have brought him. Yeah, okay, person, there's nothing

793
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: that says they didn't make pick up the phone and ask. Yeah,

794
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: we don't know that they did, or they don't know

795
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: they didn't. They just didn't hear about it. Um. Certainly,

796
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: Brian Flores can pick where he wants to coach, no

797
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: question about it. If if he wants to coach someplace,

798
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: he can, Um, that's and that's it. I will say this,

799
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 1: The Bill's coaching staff on that side of the ball

800
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: looks to be pretty much intact from a year ago.

801
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier's back, Uh yeah, the only guy Bob, Yeah,

802
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: Bob Babbage has senior has as reportedly has announced his retirement. Um,

803
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: But other than that, the room is the same. I

804
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: don't know, and I get it, and I agree with you.

805
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: Brian Flores is a great coach and you'd be better

806
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: with him than without him. I think I just wonder

807
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: if you I think that's something a coach of his

808
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: casher do you do you go to Leslie Frasier and say,

809
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: I think you have to and say what do you

810
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: think this? Because you don't want Leslie if you like

811
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: he's getting blindsided or upstaged by a former NFL head

812
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: coach that's now coming in here to be a defensive

813
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: assistant or something. I'll say this too. It's not Brandon

814
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: Bean's call and Sean mcs Sean mcdermot's call. Right, So

815
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 1: there's that as well. All Right, we have to take

816
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: a break here because when we come back, we're going

817
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: to be joined by NFL network analyst and XFL executive

818
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: vice President of Football Operations, Mark Ross. He's going to

819
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: join us next here on One Bill's Life presented by

820
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: Kalida Helped It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker

821
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: who has been all over her field. Kind of unique.

822
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for you, Steve,

823
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the stragedyre of normalcy.

824
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: All right, welcome to our number two here on a Wednesday,

825
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, please to be joined

826
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: now by NFL network analyst and XFL executive vice president

827
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: of football Operations. Also had a career in the front

828
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: offices a couple of NFL teams as well, including the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. It's Mark Ross joining us on the line. Now, Mark,

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00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: how you doing great? Great about Oh we're doing okay.

831
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: We're just chopping up all of this offseason news that

832
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: the NFL has to offer. I want to begin with

833
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: the Aaron Rodgers situation, because you know, Bill's fans are

834
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: over the moon that you know they've got Josh Allen

835
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: as their quarterback here in Buffalo, and with good reason.

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Speaker 1: I gotta wonder, though, Mark, this yo yoing that Aaron

837
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: Rodgers seemingly has, you know, with the Packers organization, where

838
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: he's very cryptic with his public messaging and you know,

839
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: am I playing? Am I not playing? Do I know

840
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: what I want to do with my life? And while

841
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: he might be dealing with some very real personal decisions

842
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: where he really is on the fence from a fan perspective,

843
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: and I know probably most people don't care what the

844
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: fans thing, but I think from a fan perspective, though,

845
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: the patience has to be kind of running thin. Even

846
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: though this guy's a two time MVP. I mean, can

847
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: you imagine being a Packers fan right now? It's like,

848
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: is he staying or is he going? What's happening? I mean,

849
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: we're going on two years for this now. Yeah. I

850
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: mean we went through the whole off season of the

851
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: drama and throughout the year it's sort of calm down,

852
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: and now he's back to the drama. It's not just

853
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: a fan, it's the front office and coaching staff. When

854
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: you have players, you want certain to you want stability.

855
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: Most of my career I had Eli Manning and Donovan McNabb,

856
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: and you knew what to expect for those guys every

857
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: day and all day, and you knew they were all

858
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: in about the team. It wasn't about themselves. And this guy,

859
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, I mean, he's you know, he's a magician

860
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: with how selfish he seems, but it seems like he's

861
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: still getting painted with a good light by most of

862
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: the media. But you know, as a front office, you

863
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: certainly don't want to deal with this. And it's all

864
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: bowing down too, because he is so talented and MVP

865
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: and whatnot. But yeah, you just and even after he said, oh,

866
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 1: I won't keep him hanging, what is he doing, He's

867
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: keeping everybody hanging. So to me, I mean from the

868
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: outside looking in and just knowing something that the guy

869
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: is pretty much just about himself. And that's something that

870
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: I think other people would probably start to see in

871
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: the organization. And you know, they've got a young quarterback there, Hey,

872
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: let's Aaron, let us know, let's move on and let's

873
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 1: let's let's get rid of this drama. But he seems

874
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: to rebel in it, and he seems a rebel in

875
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: the fact that people revel in what he's doing. Yeah,

876
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: and one of the things about it with the Green

877
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: Bay Packers front office where they're concerned is I mean,

878
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: to me, and I've never been in front office, you

879
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: know how that room works and how these decisions are made.

880
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: There is no way any NFL franchise, even one as

881
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: unique as the Green Bay Packers, is being publicly owned

882
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: and all that. There is no way any football team

883
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: trades away a two time defending MVP for any reason. Now,

884
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: maybe Aaron Rodgers feels like he can flex and get

885
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: his way out of there, but there is absolutely no

886
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: way the Green Bay Packers trade away a guy who

887
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: is back to back MVPs in the last two years. Yeah,

888
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: and that's the thing. But then you have to look

889
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: at it as, Okay, is this his ceiling? Is he done?

890
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: Because what have we seen? The regular season brilliance but

891
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: lost in the fact of all this and all this,

892
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: he's come up small in these playoffs the last two years,

893
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: especially last year. So is he going to And this

894
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: is how you have to look at things, all right,

895
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: will it be different next year? Can you have that

896
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 1: magical regular season again and get to the playoffs again

897
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: and have the number one seed everything set up for

898
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: you again? And then Aaron is he going to now

899
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: play at an MVP level there? Or is he going

900
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: to give you ten points again? So those are the

901
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 1: sort of things from an outsider looking as a fan,

902
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: you can't do it because he's a two time MVP.

903
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: But in the building you're talking about things like that,

904
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: where Okay, well Aaron really hasn't come through for us.

905
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: When we needed him to the last few years in

906
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: these playoffs. Is that his ceiling? Is he done? Especially

907
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: since because of his age. So and again, they were

908
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: proactive in drafting, drafting Georgian love. Whether you liked it

909
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: or not, they were proactive and they set themselves up

910
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: for what they think as the future. So Green Bay

911
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 1: has really done a lot of things that no matter

912
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: where they go with this, I would say, yes, I

913
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: completely understand why they did what they did. From one

914
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: quarterback question to an absolute conundrum for an NFL front office.

915
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: You know, the Deshaun Watson situation doesn't appear to have

916
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: any more clarity than it did a year ago. And

917
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: you know now the depositions are being postponed and pushed

918
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: back on the schedule. We're hearing reports that the Texans

919
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: are not reducing their asking price. They want five to

920
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: seven assets, including three first round picks, according to reports.

921
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: While I respect that, knowing the caliber of player that

922
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: Watson is in your front office experience, how do you

923
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: handicap this mark in terms of accurately assessing his value

924
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: on the open market. When number one, there are so

925
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: many questions still left out there. And then number two,

926
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: even if those questions get answered, there's going to be

927
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: like a Charlie Brown rain cloud over this guy wherever

928
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: he lands. Yeah, there's two parts of this. It's the

929
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: football side and then the legal side. And number one,

930
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: there's thirty two owners they have to say we're going

931
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: to do this. Number one to take the hit with

932
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: everything as far as the media and okay, if we

933
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,479
Speaker 1: do bring this guy on, this case is still open.

934
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: So I said this all last year when it was

935
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: going on. This guy's not going anywhere. It's just too

936
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: much there. There's just too much uncertainty with the legal

937
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: side of it to say we're going to take a

938
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: chance on him. I mean, this is monumental the stuff

939
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: that's going on with him, and no owner is going

940
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: to sign off on that. And okay, let's say they do.

941
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: How many teams actually need a quarterback. There's still a good,

942
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: huge group of who has the assets to do it

943
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: and the cap situation to do it, And that really

944
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: whittles it down to just a couple of teams that

945
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: on the football side of it, just looking at the

946
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: draft capitol and the draft capitol and the salary cap

947
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: space that can actually do it. So when you just

948
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: put all that into the mix, the legal side, the

949
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: asset side. This guy is not going anywhere for a

950
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: while until all this gets resolved. Yeah, and even then,

951
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a whole truckload of luggage to bring

952
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: along with him. He's gonna have some check bags to

953
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: bring to this new team or wherever it is he

954
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: ends up being with. And as you look around the league,

955
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,919
Speaker 1: it's interesting to me because we've and we've talked about

956
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: a lot on our show, quarterbacks move around the league

957
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: now at a at a faster rate than they ever

958
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: have in the history of the league. You used to

959
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 1: be you couldn't move ever if you were a good quarterback.

960
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 1: Now you got Aaron Rodgers making waves. You got Russ

961
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: Wilson making waves. You got Matthew Stafford going and winning

962
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. You got Matt I mean, Tom Brady moving.

963
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: He got all these guys move all over the place.

964
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: And so it's become commonplace and we kind of expect it.

965
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: But there's some things times when you think about, this

966
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: guy's not going anywhere, and it's sometimes the most unlikely

967
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: of guys, like in this case, I'm talking about Daniel Jones.

968
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: He's coming into the New York Giants new head coach ownership.

969
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: They invested in the guy. They've got a lot of

970
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: rhetoric behind him. They think he's the guy, they hope

971
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: he's the guy. How do you think that plays out

972
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: in New York And what are their options as a

973
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: front office if indeed it starts to go sideway? Yeah,

974
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 1: you know obviously the connection there what you're Joe, Shane,

975
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: Bills and Dave A going down there to save Daniel Jones.

976
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 1: And you know, I've seen Daniel Jones close to just

977
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: being here, studied them hard coming out of college, and

978
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, there is has been a lot of Daniel

979
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: Jones truthers, you know, small percentage. I think most of

980
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: the people from the outside he had all the other

981
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: teams like, yeah, Giants, you guys keep Daniel Jones. The

982
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: thing with Daniel Jones is a lot of most of

983
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: those problems are self inflicted. It really doesn't have anything

984
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: to do with the scheme or the people or the coaching.

985
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: You know, he turns the ball over and he throws

986
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of interceptions that really are his fault. And

987
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: when you look at when I look at great quarterbacks,

988
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: they've kind of always been great throughout their lives or

989
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: great players. For the most part, they've been great throughout

990
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: their whole lives. And what you're really begging on with

991
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones and the Giants is the unseen because

992
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: the guy was a you know, he's never been a

993
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: great player at any level. You know, he had know

994
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: all first coming out of high school Duke, he was

995
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 1: a very average player, really super surprised at the six pick.

996
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: His first few years of the NFL, he hasn't really

997
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: shown that he's a franchise guy or really even a

998
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: viable starter. You know, one throw or two throws or

999
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: one run a game does not equate to being a

1000
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: franchise winning quarterbacks. So you're just banking all this on

1001
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: the unseen with Daniel Jones, and I just don't think

1002
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: that's a wise strategy for a team. But with the new,

1003
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: the new you know, front of the head coach and

1004
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: GM coming in, you know, maybe they got the job.

1005
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: I thinking weekend save Daniel Jones game and this will

1006
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: be the third coach to try to do this. But

1007
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's that guy. Yeah, we're talking

1008
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: with NFL Network analyst Mark Ross, who also is executive

1009
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: vice president of football Operations for the XFL, which will

1010
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: beginning will begin play in twenty twenty three, And there

1011
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: was an interesting agreement as the XFL and NFL have

1012
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: kind of partnered together for some data sharing stuff on

1013
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: players safety, buttential rule changes where it looks like the

1014
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: XFL is going to serve as somewhat of a testing

1015
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: ground for maybe some things that the NFL would like

1016
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: to see in action on the field before maybe instituting

1017
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: it in their own league. What can you kind of

1018
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: share on where you see that part of this agreement going, Mark, Yeah,

1019
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: I can't get in a lot of deep specifics, but

1020
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: yet it was something when I got involved the XFL

1021
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: that from day one, I said, we need to partner

1022
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: with you know, just having an alliance a relationship with

1023
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: the NFL and not be like other leagues that wanted

1024
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: to be against the NFL was something that since I've

1025
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,919
Speaker 1: been in the NFL and I've worked on the team side,

1026
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: I've worked on at the league side and now on

1027
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: the network side as well, where I've seen all aspects

1028
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: of it and understand the importance of the NFL for

1029
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: for these leagues, and I said, this is we have

1030
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: to have a relationship, and it was fully embraced by

1031
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: ownership and with Troy Vincent, who's the executive vice president

1032
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: football operations. And I've known Troy since I was twenty

1033
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: three years old a scout, an intern really with the

1034
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: Eagle and he was a big free agent signing from Miami.

1035
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: So I've kind of had a personal and professional relationship

1036
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: with Troy for since nineteen ninety seven. So for for

1037
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: us to try to work on a bunch of things,

1038
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: and he's always about advancing the game and innovation, and

1039
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: for us as a startup, it's, hey, how can we help,

1040
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: how can we have part of things? And for the NFL,

1041
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that they probably would like

1042
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: to do that they just don't have time to work

1043
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: on in real time. You know, you can't work on

1044
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: rules and games, you can't work on kind of player

1045
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: safety things in game situations. So I think with our

1046
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: relationship world try to have innovative ways with technology and

1047
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: officiating and rules and player development, mental health things, international

1048
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: player development. Those are a bunch of kind of the

1049
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: initiatives that we're kind of talking about and trying to

1050
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: work on for this for the league year give us

1051
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: an idea of the run up. But I obviously have

1052
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: some time that seems like a long long time until

1053
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, but the run up is extensive, right, Um,

1054
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: tell us how that's going. You had your draft yesterday

1055
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: the other league. I'm sorry, so you got right, So

1056
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: you got you guys are running up. You're running up.

1057
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: You got to run up. Give us an idea of

1058
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: how it's going, and some timelines and maybe some things

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01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: we can look for in the news to happen so

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01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: that we can keep track of where you guys are at. Yeah,

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01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: we had this big announcement here and of course we're

1062
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: going to have to announce, but where we're playing and

1063
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: the coaches who are there, and when the draft is

1064
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: and all those sort of things will be announced. Um,

1065
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: obviously way before February and twenty twenty three, so you know,

1066
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: we'll be rolling out a bunch of things that we're

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01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: doing here, and um, you know, it's just a lot

1068
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: of excitement. I mean, when you have the ownership group

1069
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: that we have. Everyone knows Dwayne Johnson, the Rock and

1070
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: the guys you know open up the super Bowl and

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01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: the guy is one of the most famous people in

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01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: the world. You know that that just brings you sort

1073
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: of that touch point of Wow, whatever we do, it's

1074
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of you know, it just goes viral. But

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01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: Danny Garcia, who's the first female owner of a sports league,

1076
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: I mean, she's tremendous. And and Jerry cart Now, who's

1077
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: you know, the founder of Redbird Capital, who's also part

1078
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: of the ownership group there that really invested and passionate

1079
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: about everything we're doing, and they really have brilliant minds

1080
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: about how best to position the league and position what

1081
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: we're trying to do and make the biggest splash as possible.

1082
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: Swinging it back to the NFL here real quick, Mark,

1083
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: we saw the Rams make good on they're all in

1084
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: play to win the Super Bowl, pulling out all the stops.

1085
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: Knowing there are always copycats in this league. To to

1086
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: what degree do you think there might be copycats off

1087
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: the Rams formula for their most recent success. Yeah, when

1088
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: the Rams went through this whole situation, I said, hey,

1089
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: it's got to pay off in the Super Bowl win

1090
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: and they did it. To their credit, they did it

1091
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: and all the pieces really work for them. And as

1092
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: you said, the NFL is a copycat league and I

1093
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: said right after the Super Bowl is on the end

1094
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: of the next day, that say, okay, now, who's going

1095
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: to try to emulate this formula? And what owner is

1096
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: going to listen to a GM interviews and say, you

1097
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: know what, we're gonna do it like the Rams, We're

1098
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: gonna get rid of all our draft picks and we're

1099
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: just going to keep trading bets and stars. And if

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01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: the owner will actually say, you know what, that's a

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01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: great idea, Well the Rams did it, so you know,

1102
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: prior to this, and you went into an interview and

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01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: said that the owner would say goodbye. But because you

1104
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: know the situation where draft picks are so valuable and

1105
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: build for the future and all that, you know, anybody

1106
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: would trade the Super Bowl for for all the kind

1107
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,479
Speaker 1: of talking points you always hear about how to build

1108
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: a team. And so the thing is, I think teams

1109
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: may try, but this was just a special collection of

1110
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: talent that the Rams were able to get. I mean,

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01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: Von Miller just maybe one of the you know, a

1112
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: certain Hall of Famer, you know, Odell Beckham at his best,

1113
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: one of the most dynamic receivers in the game. So

1114
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: the way they trade Matthew Stafford, who had always been

1115
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: considered one of the most talented quarterbacks in the league. Boom,

1116
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: you get him. So it's just going to be hard

1117
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: to emulate it. Just because the collection of talent that

1118
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: the Rams were able to assemble in such a short

1119
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: period of time, you just probably won't see that ever again.

1120
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Speaker 1: And just to have the ownership sign off to say

1121
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: this is the plan, Yes, we're going to do this,

1122
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: even after the GM trades up and goes to get

1123
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback and the guy bombs out and you

1124
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: get rid of him. For an owner to eight to

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01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: actually say, yes, let's just keep doing this, I just

1126
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: don't think you'll be able to replicate it well well.

1127
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: And I think also the thing that kind of goes

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01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: unspoken with all of this is that we've known that

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01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: that salary cap in the NFL has not been it's

1130
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: not a hard setting stone cap because of the pro

1131
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: rate bonus money they constructure contracts to kick money down

1132
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: the road, and the fact that the Rams they had

1133
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: money out of pocket, they had way more above the cap.

1134
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they got a lot of guys that are

1135
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 1: making a lot of money, that have made a lot

1136
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: of money, that are kicked down the road and forget

1137
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: about trading all their draft picks. They you know, stand

1138
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: Crunky had to write a lot of checks to put

1139
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: that squad together. And we like to think that sooner

1140
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: or later that's gonna you know, they the other shoes

1141
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: gonna drop and they're gonna be in cap jail and

1142
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: all that. And maybe that'll happen. But as long as

1143
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: they're willing to write checks and restructure contracts, you've got

1144
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: guys that are willing to, you know, restructure their deals.

1145
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: Man oh man, your owner has to have I mean,

1146
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: even for a group of billionaires, you gotta have some

1147
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 1: billionaires with some deep pockets to do that plan that

1148
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: the Brams were able to do. Plus the fact that

1149
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: they shelled out five billion for the building. Um, I mean,

1150
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: it's just money on top of money, and we've never

1151
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: seen that, and it'd be you'd be hard pressed to

1152
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: find I think another owner that thinks a World Championship

1153
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: would be worth the investment just in plane money that

1154
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: the Rams put into this World Championship. But that's I

1155
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: think that's the cell, not the plan, but the price tag. Yeah,

1156
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: and there are billionaires for a reason, and it's not

1157
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: because they're giving away money. They're figuring out ways how

1158
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: do I make money and not throw it away? And

1159
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, it is a salary cap and people

1160
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: know about the cabin. There's a lot of just cash

1161
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: implications that you have to have as ownership, just the

1162
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: expendable money on the back end that you have to

1163
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: have and be willing to part with. And again, even

1164
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: though there's thirty two billionaires, they're not all made. There's

1165
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: still tiers of those guys too, and the different mindsets

1166
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: and the hand of different ownership styles it all comes

1167
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: into play. They're not all the same. So again all that,

1168
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: as you all that goes into why this was just

1169
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: a special year because from ownership to the GM, to

1170
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: the plan, to the money to the talent, it all

1171
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: worked together to make this really just a wonder of

1172
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: a year and not something that really could be replicated

1173
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: year to year. The last one I've got for you,

1174
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: Mark is you know you got the NFL Combine coming

1175
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: up next week and there is not really a polarizing

1176
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: group of quarterbacks this year. And we know the quarterbacks

1177
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: usually are the one stealing the show at the NFL

1178
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: Combine for one reason or another. That doesn't look to

1179
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: be the case this year, at least to the degree

1180
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: that it has been in previous years. So with that

1181
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: in mind, Mark, what do you think will be maybe

1182
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: the top storylines to keep an eye on at the

1183
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: combine next week? And now that they got the bubble

1184
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: situation right breaking out, we hope that that would have

1185
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: been But well, I think that even that was just highlights.

1186
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: And I've been saying this for a long time, just

1187
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: being into combine, like it's just not people see those

1188
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: guys get out and run and jump and do that

1189
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, but it really is not an optimal

1190
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: situation for these players. They people have no idea that

1191
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: these guys are really there for four days through three

1192
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: days and three nights on their feet and at the doctors,

1193
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: then just getting pushed and pulled on and talking and

1194
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: back and forth before they even get to trying to

1195
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: do their workout. I mean, there's a lot that wears

1196
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: on these guys bodies and minds for these days that

1197
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: it's just should be a better way. And the NFL's

1198
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 1: each year trying to figure out better ways of doing

1199
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: things with the Combine, But you know, just that sort

1200
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: of Hey, maybe we can figure out a better way

1201
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: to do this. And there was some years there before

1202
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: the combines started getting televised that most of the time

1203
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: guys did not work out at all at the combined.

1204
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: They just showed up that their medical did some interviews,

1205
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: and then worked out their pro days. Then once it

1206
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: started getting televised, then they started working out again. But

1207
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: but now I think there might be more of a

1208
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: reason to say, you know, let's really look at this

1209
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 1: and evaluate this to see if this is the best

1210
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: practices because if it's about the player, the way it's

1211
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 1: set up now, it's really not the best way to

1212
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: get the best performance out of it. But you know

1213
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: that being said, well, as you the quarterback situation, I

1214
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: haven't seen it with this lack of talent, and I

1215
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: don't think ever since I've really scouted players, And that

1216
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: always makes it fun when those guys had that star

1217
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 1: power at the top. So which group, which which position

1218
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: group will then now take the show that we're just

1219
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: talking about hornfield thing, isn't the old line is the

1220
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: edge rushers is at the corners? You know those are

1221
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: kind of the is the receivers? So which group will

1222
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: now step up and say, all right, we're going to

1223
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 1: be the group that that is the highlight of this event.

1224
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: One of the things we've heard, and you can either

1225
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: confirm or deny this um that, like you said, it

1226
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: wasn't about the workouts for the scouts or the coaches.

1227
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,799
Speaker 1: What they really wanted to do was get the doctor's

1228
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: hands on these guys and let's find out how healthy

1229
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: they were and sit down in a room, look them

1230
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: eye to eye, and find out what kind of person

1231
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: they are. I think those are the two things that

1232
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: really the Combine is all about from most of the

1233
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 1: personnel departments and the coaches. Is that true or is

1234
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: there still some value in the workouts? Now there's still

1235
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: you'll still see that you got there's a reason why

1236
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 1: when you watch the Combine guys doing this for hours

1237
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: and hours on end, because they still love the time

1238
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: and they still love the workout. So that's all. You know,

1239
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: that's an excuse to say the medical is important, that

1240
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: the interviews are super important, but people, those scouts still

1241
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,799
Speaker 1: love the workout portion of it. And there's still tons

1242
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: of evaluation and decisions made by certain teams and certain

1243
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: scouts a large group based off of workout numbers, and

1244
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: you see it every year. You see the fallacy of

1245
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: trying to base talent off of workout numbers. But no,

1246
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: that's still a huge part of it where there's still

1247
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 1: gonna be some upset people, upset personnel people and coaches

1248
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: that the combine is, uh, you know, a non workout

1249
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: situation for them, because it is a the place for

1250
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 1: everyone at one time to see all these guys that

1251
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: wants something. For most coaches, this is the first time

1252
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: they really leave I on these players it face to face.

1253
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: So yeah, it still is very important in that aspect.

1254
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: You are gonna be out there with the NFL net

1255
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 1: rook crule next week or I will be. I will

1256
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: be all right on some shows. And they actually got

1257
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: me doing some timing. I gotta dust the finger. I

1258
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,560
Speaker 1: having time for a while, let's do that stuff. I

1259
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,799
Speaker 1: just sit back and look at the numbers and stuff.

1260
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, they got me doing a little bit of

1261
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 1: everything there. So we'll see how it goes. Limber up

1262
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 1: the fingers, get that thing, get that trigger finger ready, right, Mark? Mark,

1263
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 1: thanks so much, appreciate you man. It's like riding a bike, y'all.

1264
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 1: You never forget that's right. Perfect. Hey, maybe we've got

1265
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: a chance to cross pass. Good to see you, Mark,

1266
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. We may see you an indie. Sure,

1267
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: definitely look out all right, what was the pleasure? Thanks

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Speaker 1: for the time. Mark? All right, that's Mark Ross, NFL

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Speaker 1: network analyst and also executive vice president of operations for

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Speaker 1: the XFL, which will be us play. No, he's XL. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: XFL starting wrong. I got that wrong when I was

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Speaker 1: asked the draft. Yeah, the USFL draft was just this week.

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Speaker 1: The XFL comes in next year. Twenty twenty three is

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Speaker 1: when the XFL comes in and fires up their league,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see we may have three professional football leagues

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Speaker 1: all at the same time. Pretty crazy. We want to

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Speaker 1: get back to the phones. At eight oh three five

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Speaker 1: fifty one, eight five fifty two, five fifty you saw

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Speaker 1: Sir and Neil agreed to terms on a new three

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Speaker 1: year contract with the Bills. He will be back in

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01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 1: the Fold and be here for the foreseeable future. What's

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Speaker 1: the next move you want to see from the Bills.

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01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: You can let us know. We've got an open line

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Speaker 1: for you at eight oh three oh five fifty. But

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Speaker 1: let's go to Richard and Rochester, who's been waiting patiently.

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Speaker 1: What do you have for is Richard. Hey, gentlemen, you'd

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Speaker 1: make my afternoon. Thanks very much. Happy to help. I've

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Speaker 1: got a question about the defense. But first, Brownie, I

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Speaker 1: need you to settle an argument for me. Oh boy,

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01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: my buddy says that that plastic class they're separating your

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01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: two guys is for COVID. I say, it's there for

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01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: your personal security in case Steve has a flashback to

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Speaker 1: December twentieth, nineteen ninety seven, confuses you with Tom Superman

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Speaker 1: and body checks into the wall. Oh yeah, well COVID. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is more COVID related. Yes, yeah, when I flash back,

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Speaker 1: it's not to the Green Bay game, it's yeah. So

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Speaker 1: that's thanks though, Richard, that's nice. What else the defense

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Speaker 1: that you know? I know stats can be skewed anyway,

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Speaker 1: but the Bills are only two and four against playoff teams,

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Speaker 1: and if you take out that Super Win Bowl game

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01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: against New England, they gave up thirty points a game

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01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: to those five games against playoff teams. And that being said,

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01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: I know you could they can also be skewed to

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01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 1: say they were number one in a lot of categories,

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Speaker 1: But what would be where is the most room for improvement?

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Speaker 1: On defense. Okay, this good question, Thanks for the call.

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01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 1: I would say that while the while the team's pass

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01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: rush gets pressure on a pretty consistent basis, it was

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Speaker 1: almost thirty one percent of the time, I believe, if

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Speaker 1: I remember correctly, that was eighth best in football sacks,

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01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 1: they were thirteenth with forty two. You get over forty,

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Speaker 1: you're doing okay. The teams at the top of the

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Speaker 1: league are usually on the plus side of fifty. To me,

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Speaker 1: there doesn't seem to be a giant leap that they

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01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 1: need to take an improvement in that area. But I

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Speaker 1: would argue that their pass rush has to be more

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01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 1: effective at getting quarterbacks on the ground and knowing the

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Speaker 1: turnover that could potentially happen up front. With seven players

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01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 1: on Buffalo twenty twenty one roster on expiring contracts from

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01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: the defensive line alone, I would say that's where you

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01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: have to improve first and foremost, and then cornerback with

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Speaker 1: the uncertainty there, you know, Tradavious White, I don't debate

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01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: for a second. The guy's working his tail off to

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Speaker 1: come back and be ready to play, But the timetable

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01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 1: says September, and what's he going to look like? In September,

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Speaker 1: after all that layoff from real football. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: say so. I think you have to head your bets there,

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Speaker 1: just in measures of security and numbers to help yourself

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Speaker 1: on the back end, and then after that. I think

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Speaker 1: this team, if you want a consistency area, for me,

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01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: it's the tackling. There were only a few games where

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Speaker 1: you could argue their tackling was poor, but there were

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Speaker 1: some other games where they're tackling wasn't sound and it

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Speaker 1: cost them. Now, I'm not saying that's a glaring issue

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Speaker 1: for this team. We're probably splitting hairs. We are talking

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Speaker 1: about the number one ranked defense, matter who the hell

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Speaker 1: they played. At the NFL level, it's hard to be

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Speaker 1: number one in anything. They were number one and upwards

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01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: of ten defensive categories. That's not by accident. It's not

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Speaker 1: solely because they may have played some weaker quarterbacks Davis

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01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: Mills for example, Trevor Lawrence and his rookie year, etc. Etc.

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of them. They're damn good, but I'm

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Speaker 1: splitting hairs. If you want to ask for improvements, I

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01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: think they're marginal ones. Here's the thing too, and the

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01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: Bills played a soft schedule, no question about it. They

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Speaker 1: played a lot of teams that were struggling. Houston, Jacksonville's

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Speaker 1: of the world, and you know, even the Patriots were,

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Speaker 1: you know, that kind of team that rookie quarterback with

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Speaker 1: the rookie quarterback they did, they played a very much

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Speaker 1: softer schedule. And I think one of the things that's

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01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: and it's hard to put up a tangible description as

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Speaker 1: to why you want the Bills defense to get better,

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01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 1: because you say, well, we had the number one defense

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01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 1: in the league in ten categories. It's like, well, okay,

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01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: that's fine, let leave. But all of us who watched

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01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: this team would say the thing that was surprising about

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01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: this team, this number one defense in the league, is

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Speaker 1: that it was incredibly unspectacular. They were It was a yawner.

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Speaker 1: The play of the year happened in the in the

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Speaker 1: playoff game against against the wildcard game against the Patriots

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Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. It was on the opening drive of

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. The Bills had taken it, gone down down

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Speaker 1: the field, touchdown, they kick off, the Patriots go down.

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Speaker 1: They they convert on a third and fourteen, a third

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Speaker 1: and ten. They you know, they just keep their drive alive,

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Speaker 1: and then the play of the year was Micah Hyde's

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Speaker 1: interception down the left sideline, an absolutely spectacular play that

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Speaker 1: was as spectacular as the defense was all year. They

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Speaker 1: just weren't a playmaking, dominant defense in any way, shape

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Speaker 1: or form. On any statistical thing. They were good, They

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Speaker 1: were good everywhere, but they weren't spectacular at anything. They'd

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Speaker 1: miss a tackle here and there, dropping, dropping, interception, and

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Speaker 1: even on this drive that we're looking at against the

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Speaker 1: Bills and the Patriots, they had a couple of the

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Speaker 1: Patriots had a couple of third down conversions that were like,

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01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 1: how did that guy get that open? The third and

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01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,560
Speaker 1: fifteen and a fourth down? I mean, Mac Jones is

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01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 1: running for twelve yards for a first down conversion, I mean,

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Speaker 1: And it's stuff like that that where you look at

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01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: this team and Bills fans are sitting at home, going, man,

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01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: we need to get better defensively. They were the number

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01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: one defense in the league, and a lot of Bills

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01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: fans and us included, once in a while they're saying, man,

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01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: we gotta get way better on defense. And they were

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01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: the number one defense in the league, and consistently nobody

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01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 1: got more out of their defense than the Bills did

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01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: week to week. But there were times when it seemed

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01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 1: like a lot of defenses, we're getting plays that the

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01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: Bills just never made an interception, a sack. The gotta

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01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: have it plays, the gotta have a place. And you know,

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01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 1: you can look back and Greg Rousseau ad tipped interception

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01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 1: on Mahomes in Week five. I was like, wow. You know,

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01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: plays like that were few and far between, and it's

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01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: just amazing to think about a defense that was statistically

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01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: as good as the Bills were and they didn't have

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01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: a plethora of those kinds. You never think of them

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01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 1: as being the reason they won any game. There's certainly there.

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01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: They were part of every victory, But you know what

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01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: I mean, like those old eighty five Bears teams with

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01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: the Legion of Boom in the in twenty twelve, you know,

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01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 1: all these defensive teams are like, wow, that deep, you know,

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01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 1: like the Denver Broncos, even with Peyton Manning. You know,

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01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,640
Speaker 1: you never saw the Bill's defense be that kind of

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01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: defense in its personality or in its production. But yet, yeah,

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01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 1: there they are the number one team. So all of

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01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 1: us are kind of sitting in that boat break time

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01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 1: for us here more of your phone calls. Next One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Stay tuned all right. Back to the phones

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Speaker 1: we go here on One Bills Live and to Chris

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01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 1: in Bergen, New York. We got first, Chris, Hi, how

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01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 1: are you this afternoon? Gooding? Well? I am a question

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01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: about a receiver in the draft, Calvin Austin the third.

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01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,600
Speaker 1: I was wondering if you thought the Bills would be

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01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: interested in someone like that. He lacked size. I don't

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01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: know if he can get up and go after the

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01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: ball with some of the taller dbs, but he has

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01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: elite traits. And do you think he might be a

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01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: round in the third round? And would the Bills take him?

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01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: And what receivers do you like? Thank you? Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, Chris. I'm just getting

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01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: into it now, so I can't pretend to know the

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01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 1: ins and outs of Calvin Austin the third under the

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01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: fact that, yeah, he is a diminutive receiver and as

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01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 1: you alluded to, he is projected as a third round

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01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: draft choice. I haven't watched any film on him yet.

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01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 1: I know his numbers have been pretty consistent over the

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01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: last two years, back to back thousand yard seasons. He

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01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 1: got nineteen touchdowns over his last two years, so we've

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01:19:55,720 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 1: certainly been productive for Memphis. But here's the biggest question

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01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:07,759
Speaker 1: I have about how to improve Buffalo's receiving corps. Okay,

1431
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 1: last year they felt they had to add something after

1432
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 1: parting ways with John Brown. They chose to go the

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01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: veteran route, Emmanuel Sanders. This is a team that is

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01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 1: in win now mode. I don't know if drafting a

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01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 1: third round receiver to play slot for you is the

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01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 1: best way to win now, if you know what I'm saying.

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01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: So to me, I think you want to try to

1438
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: see if there is a veteran that can be had

1439
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 1: out there, bring Mackenzie back into the fold, who knows

1440
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 1: this offense inside and out, and I would anticipate they

1441
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: go that route, which to me means you're probably not

1442
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 1: taking a receiver high in the draft on the first

1443
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,759
Speaker 1: two days, if at all, because you still have players

1444
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: like Isaiah Hodgins and Marquez Stevenson in the pipeline. So,

1445
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 1: you know, I understand why people think the Bills need

1446
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:16,560
Speaker 1: another weapon, and I don't deny that they do. I

1447
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 1: just tend to think the Bills are probably going the

1448
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: veteran route, since that's what they did in twenty nineteen

1449
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 1: to help Josh Allen, John Brown, Cole Beasley. You know,

1450
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: that's what they did in twenty twenty when they traded

1451
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: for Stefan Diggs, and that's what they did in twenty

1452
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 1: twenty one with Emmanuel Sanders. History is showing us they

1453
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 1: like to have a veteran presence in their receiving corps.

1454
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 1: And I think they do it again. Yeah, I do too.

1455
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 1: There's nothing that says they won't get a guy. And

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01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:55,600
Speaker 1: I'll say that too, and just Chris, nothing against you,

1457
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 1: But I know this, when I go through these draft things,

1458
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 1: you always think we always hone in on guys, and

1459
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 1: a lot of times they do turn out to be

1460
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: pretty good players for whatever team and subsequently drafts them.

1461
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: But at this point, there are a handful at least

1462
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 1: of guys with more elite traits than Calvin Austin the

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01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 1: third um, mostly his size. Obviously, there's a ton of

1464
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 1: guys that are way bigger than him. Certainly, his speed

1465
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: sets him or puts him in the conversation. His ability

1466
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 1: to catch all that stuffs on the table, and that

1467
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 1: which is why all those things together it's not just

1468
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: the fact that he's five seven, one hundred and eighty

1469
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 1: that puts him into the third round. There's some other

1470
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,799
Speaker 1: stuff there as well. So all of that stuff together,

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01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: there's a ton of guys and I don't want I

1472
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: don't want to be little. The guys coming out athletes

1473
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: are a dime a dozen well, and it's a deep

1474
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 1: receiver class again, will continue to be the case. So

1475
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 1: what happens is they'll probably be this Calvin Austen will

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Speaker 1: be there in the third round, but there will also

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01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 1: be a guy there that was supposed to be a

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01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: second rounder or a late first round, or a high

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01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: second round, a mid second round, or there's gonna drop

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01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be there in the third round and

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01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 1: going wow, we could get that guy instead. That's what

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01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: usually happens. So what happens with guys like Calvin Johnson

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01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 1: or Calvin Austen is that all of a sudden, he's

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01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: there in the midway through the fourth round and somebody

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01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 1: grabs him or they take him in as a second

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01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 1: round and everybody thinks, wow, he's a reach because this

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01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 1: team thinks they know something about him, or they're a

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01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 1: different roster than the Bills have. I think Brownie's right.

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01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna sign a guy off the free

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01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 1: agent line that looks a lot like Emmanuel Sanders and

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01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 1: John Brown and or Cole Beasley. Yeah, I don't know.

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01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 1: That's what the Brandon being in history tells me that. Now.

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01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 1: You could also say he's drafted guys too, and he has,

1494
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 1: but it hasn't been high in the draft. I mean

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01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis fourth round draft choice, Isaiah Hodgins sixth round

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01:23:55,880 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: draft choice. Okay, and Marks Stevenson fifth round draft choice.

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01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 1: We're talking day three, and to their credit, they've hit

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01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 1: on a couple of them, most notably Gabe Davis. We'll

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01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: see what mark Quis Stevenson has to offer. We're still

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01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: waiting on Isaiah Hodgens to see what he can do.

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01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 1: But that's the short and I agree it's a small

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01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: sample size, but that's the history so far. Let's go

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01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 1: to Eddie on a sale next. What do you got first? Eddie? Yes,

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01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 1: go ahead, Yes, my conversation, it's a oh my conversation

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01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 1: about this. You have both stuck. Oh okay, but you

1506
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:47,600
Speaker 1: do have diamond tested in the diamond love on the

1507
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 1: practice squad Noah, you spoke on yeah, Edie, Eddie, and

1508
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you're breaking up. I'm gonna have to put

1509
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 1: you on hold and see if the sale reception gets

1510
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 1: better because unfortunately don't have a good connection there. Sorry

1511
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: about that. Let's go to Jack in Lakawana quickly. What

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01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 1: do you got, Jack? Yeah, I was wondering if we

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01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 1: got any draft pick at all for Jake from from

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01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 1: the practice squad. No, there's no compensation there because basically,

1515
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 1: players on a practice squad or free agents, they're free

1516
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 1: to sign with any team in the league to an

1517
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 1: active roster position, and that's what the Giants did because

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01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 1: they had some injuries, so they signed Jake from off

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01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo's practice squad to put on their active roster. It's

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01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 1: considered a promotion. They don't want to hold players back

1521
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 1: from that kind of an opportunity, so there is no

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01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 1: compensation for him. That's right. Yeah. One other thing, it's

1523
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 1: so nice that eight games into the season we're not

1524
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 1: wondering where we're gonna draft or what free agent quarter bran. Yeah,

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01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: amen to that, Jack, right, So thanks for that. We

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01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: have to take a break here, Steve and I will

1527
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 1: be closing things up for a Wednesday addition to One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. We'll see if we got any comments on

1529
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet and turn to the next move you

1530
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 1: want to see from the Bills. We'll do that next

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01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 1: here on One Bills Live, presented by Collot to help,

1532
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 1: it's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, let's quickly get to

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01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

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01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. I'm

1535
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 1: going to read you a couple of tweets, Steve, and

1536
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: then have you react. So JT, when asked what should

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01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 1: be the next move for the Bills after Sir rand

1538
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 1: Neil has agreed to terms, gets back in the fold.

1539
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 1: JT says, a speedy receiver, assuming Sanders will be gone,

1540
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 1: maybe even Isaiah two, leaving us no speed on the

1541
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 1: offensive side. Maybe we can get a few players to

1542
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 1: restructure their contracts to sign a player like Chris Godwin, who,

1543
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 1: by the way, he's coming off an ACL injury. Also

1544
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: would like us to draft the behemoth Jordan Davis. He's

1545
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 1: a tank. And then Amy says, extend Diggs, give him

1546
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 1: a raise, free up some more cap room, and do

1547
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 1: it before Diggs has any thoughts of holding out. So

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01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:11,560
Speaker 1: both comments dealing with the receiver position, where do you

1549
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: come down on that? It's all great. I love it. Yeah,

1550
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 1: speed is always an asset predicted a wide receiver if

1551
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 1: the guy can play wide receiver. Actually, that's what you want.

1552
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: You want some guys that can really go, and there's

1553
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:28,480
Speaker 1: some guys out there that may fall into that category.

1554
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 1: Drafting guys with elite traits, I'm all about it. I

1555
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 1: would it would be great. Best case scenario is if

1556
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: a guy like Jordan Davis he falls to the Bills

1557
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 1: or whatever the Bills get him, and he turns out

1558
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 1: to be a three down football player instead of just

1559
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 1: a two down football player. They need a guy who

1560
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: can rush the pastor from that. He's a one technique

1561
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, a guy like Jordan Davis

1562
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: who's gonna make Ed Oliver a better player than he

1563
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: was even this year. They need some guys who can

1564
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: dominate at the pro level. To do that, you need

1565
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 1: delete physical traits. Jordan Davis has all of those. With

1566
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 1: this Bill's coaching staff and their mindset on getting better Jordan,

1567
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 1: you can bet that Jordan Davis will be a better

1568
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 1: football player after he's here than he was as a

1569
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 1: Georgia Bulldog. So all that said, yeah, more speed at

1570
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver, get more talented and more name players. If

1571
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 1: you can in the free agent market, maybe draft one

1572
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,640
Speaker 1: with some elite skills, with an elite skill set or

1573
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: an elite trait. But yeah, draft the big guy. I'm

1574
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: always about drafting the big guys high, the guys that

1575
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: are bigger, stronger, faster than everybody else on the planet. Yeah,

1576
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: you want those guys on your team, Yes, but you

1577
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 1: got to do it in the first couple of rounds

1578
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 1: more often than not, Yes, you do. I would say

1579
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: speed is an important component to add to this roster

1580
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, which is why that's

1581
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 1: what I will be focusing on on the combine, maybe

1582
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: more than I usually do in terms of some of

1583
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 1: the testing because we're not sitting in the interview rooms.

1584
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: We don't get a chance to learn and know what

1585
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 1: kind of person or character they have. That's what the

1586
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 1: teams have at their disposal. All we have are the testing,

1587
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: and we'll be ears to the ground on that when

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01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 1: we're out at the combine effective next Tuesday for full

1589
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 1: combine coverage for you. We'll be here here on one

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01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: Bill's loss. We're here Monday, and then we're gonna be

1591
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 1: on the road Monday night and we'll right down into

1592
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 1: Indianapolis on Tuesday. Mattie glab in for me tomorrow, a

1593
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 1: team up with Steve. They'll see you at one o'clock

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01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:26,799
Speaker 1: tomorrow