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Speaker 1: like this is what's costing Harvard again. The Trump administration

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Speaker 2: This is why they can't have nice things.

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Speaker 1: The Big Budget bill passed the House by one voter,

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Speaker 1: And Congressman Jerry Connolly's death is certainly a sad personal story,

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Speaker 1: but it will be fascinating to see how America's richest

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Speaker 1: American Sunrise Early Edition, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to American Sunrise Early Edition, the show where faith, freedom,

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Speaker 1: Now, Good morning everyone, Welcome to this No Tie Friday,

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Speaker 1: It's special because we, of course are going into Memorial

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Speaker 1: And it has been, of course, a very busy week

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Speaker 1: the Grace Curly Show from.

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Speaker 2: Up in Boston.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you can watch it nationwide on YouTube. You

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Speaker 1: Again, he's not denying he shot these people, So I

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Speaker 1: But Grace again, is this about stopping a free speech

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Speaker 2: Listen to this.

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Speaker 1: He knew that he could focus on Joe Scarborough because

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Speaker 3: Coming after you, you were suckered by an eighty two year

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Speaker 1: Is Yeah, it's not a honeypot, Grace, It's more like

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Speaker 1: a pot of sanka. Thank you so much for joining us, Grace.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jake Novak Special Welcome to those of you watching

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Speaker 1: and commenting on Getter and Rumble. Well a deadlock Supreme

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Speaker 1: So that's why we had an even number of justices

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Speaker 1: All right, now, a lesson in messaging everyone listened to

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Speaker 1: thirty one bucks. It's almost like a percentage point, that's something.

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Speaker 1: And crude oil also really flat, only up fifteen cents.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at bitcoin and the cryptocurrencies, and

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Speaker 1: there you have Bitcoin down again also just a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but at that one and almost one hundred and eleven

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Speaker 1: thousand mark, we are really just about at that all

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Speaker 1: time high. I think it got a couple thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: higher at one point yesterday as well, so bitcoin is

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Speaker 1: looking strong right now. Hey, I have two pieces of

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Speaker 1: news from Nike, and I think they're both kind of interesting. First,

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Speaker 1: the iconic shoe company is making a marketing mistake. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you've been watching this program the last few days,

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Speaker 1: I've been telling companies, first of all, don't raise your

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Speaker 1: prices because of taris. Wait as long as you can

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Speaker 1: remember that, you might get a nice boost of free

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Speaker 1: advertising on the news if you announce you're not raising

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Speaker 1: your prices.

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Speaker 2: Yet, Nike didn't listen to me. That's okay.

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Speaker 1: I have teenage daughters, while I did only one as

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Speaker 1: a teenager. Now I know what it's like not to

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Speaker 1: be listened to. But Nike announced it will start raising

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Speaker 1: prices in a few days on a number of their items.

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Speaker 1: Again I would have waited, just wait, wait another couple weeks. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you'll take a loss, but you might get a win

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Speaker 1: with all that free advertising. Again, they didn't listen to me.

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Speaker 1: The other interesting piece of news is that Nike announced

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Speaker 1: it's going back to selling its products directly on Amazon again.

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Speaker 1: They tried taking it off of Amazon and going their

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Speaker 1: own way. That didn't work, so they stopped doing that.

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Speaker 1: It was in twenty nineteen when they stopped doing it.

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Speaker 1: Now they have to go back to do it again.

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Speaker 1: Because Amazon is just so dominant. There are very few websites,

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Speaker 1: very few individual company websites that people but we'll go

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Speaker 1: to other than Amazon. Amazon is a monopoly in case

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Speaker 1: he didn't know that. And by the way, Nike schriffs

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Speaker 1: have lost two thirds of their value from where they

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Speaker 1: were in their all time high in November twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: so they need to do something. I think the move

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Speaker 1: going back to Amazon probably makes sense. Announcing that they're

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Speaker 1: going to raise prices.

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Speaker 2: Not so smart, but again, maybe they'll learn that the

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Speaker 2: hard way.

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Speaker 1: The Treasury Department is going to stop putting new pennies

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Speaker 1: into circulation by early next year, because we're going to.

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Speaker 2: Stop making new ones now.

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Speaker 1: After that, there won't be enough pennies in use for

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Speaker 1: everyday cash transactions, so businesses are going to have to

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Speaker 1: round up to the nearest nickel. Okay, that's for people

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Speaker 1: who pay in actual pennies. I can't remember the last

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Speaker 1: time I went into a store and paid with pennies

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Speaker 1: for anything, even if I threw that into other change,

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Speaker 1: some of you watching probably do that.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you one thing, though, If.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to line a long line in a cashier,

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Speaker 1: there's usually someone who is paying with pennies, and they're

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Speaker 1: telling the story of every penny in their purse or

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Speaker 1: wilet and how it got there. So maybe this will

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Speaker 1: speed things up. All kidding aside, making pennies is really expensive.

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Speaker 1: It costs much more than a penny to make each penny,

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Speaker 1: and that's a little way to cut our deficit.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm a deficit hawk, okay.

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Speaker 1: Paramount Global chair Sherry Redstone is reportedly ready to hand

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Speaker 1: over fifty million dollars to President Trump. This will be

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Speaker 1: the settlement of the twenty billion dollar lawsuit that President

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Speaker 1: Trump filed against CBS News in sixty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Its parent company is Paramount.

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Speaker 1: Global, after they did that crazy editing of the Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris interview for sixty minutes, which was basically like a

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Speaker 1: campaign contribution.

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Speaker 2: So Scherry Redstone, who runs the big company, wants to

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Speaker 2: do it.

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Speaker 1: There are people inside the company, according to my buddy

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Speaker 1: Charlie Gasparino at the New York Posts, who are trying

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Speaker 1: to stop her, and that's why you've had these resignations

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Speaker 1: at CBS News the last few days.

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Speaker 2: But she still wants to do it. It's just being

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Speaker 2: slowed down.

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Speaker 1: Remember, Paramout Global is trying to sell off its company

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Speaker 1: to Skydance, which is run by Larry Ellison's son. It's

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of mixed things going on here.

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Speaker 1: But frankly, I think that deal will eventually get done

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Speaker 1: and probably President Trump will get fifty million dollars in watch.

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Speaker 1: I bet you he'll make a donation out of that money.

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Speaker 1: But that's just my prediction. All right, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: twenty five percent off of your first order. The Senate

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Speaker 1: did vote, by the way, to overturn California's ridiculous twenty

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Speaker 1: thirty five deadline to get all gas powered cars off

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Speaker 1: of their roads and highways. Now, the reason why this

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Speaker 1: was not just a California story was because California doing

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Speaker 1: this would have given a lot of other states the

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Speaker 1: impetus to do it too, and frankly, the American people

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Speaker 1: can't afford it. The American automakers aren't ready for it,

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Speaker 1: and so the Senate voted fifty five to forty five

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Speaker 1: as expected. Along with the House, the House also voted

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Speaker 1: to get rid of California's right to do the California

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Speaker 1: needed a federal government okay from the Biden team to

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Speaker 1: put that twenty thirty five deadline in place. It was

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Speaker 1: a ridiculous decision, and now it's been overturned.

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Speaker 2: Great news. But here's what I want to pinpoint.

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Speaker 1: Every single Democrat voted to keep that ban in place,

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Speaker 1: to keep that twenty thirty five ban in place, except

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Speaker 1: for one. One Democrat voted to get rid of that ban.

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Speaker 1: Her name is Alyssa Slockin. She's the new Democrat senator

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Speaker 1: from Michigan. But wait, doesn't Michigan have two Democrat senators?

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't any Democrat or Republican from Michigan want to vote

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Speaker 1: against that ban, want to vote with the majority on

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Speaker 1: this because it's the US automakers who are lobbying the hardest.

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Speaker 1: In other words, the Michigan US AT lawmakers automakers who

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Speaker 1: are lobbying the hardest against this. Well, Gary Peters, the

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Speaker 1: other Democrat from Michigan, the other Democrat senator from Michigan,

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Speaker 1: voted to keep the ban in place.

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Speaker 2: And why did he do that? Why did he think

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Speaker 2: he could get away with it?

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Speaker 1: Because he's retiring and he doesn't have any accountability to

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Speaker 1: the voters anymore. And that is why Alissa Slockin, the

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Speaker 1: new senator who wants to have a career. Some say

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Speaker 1: she wants to run for President. She had a vote

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Speaker 1: for this, he didn't. And there you have what accountability

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Speaker 1: and government looks like today. It's not much, all right,

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Speaker 1: And now let's get a live shot inside the boardroom

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Speaker 1: at Ford Motor Company.

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Speaker 2: Watch this.

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Speaker 7: It seems that we ben Denie Lambert and locked. The

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Speaker 7: entire firm has been engaged in a well conspiracy. We've been.

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Speaker 8: Overbilling our clients in some cases massive overbuilding.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just kidding. That wasn't the Ford Motor Company boardroom.

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Speaker 1: That is a great scene from the movie The Firm

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Speaker 1: with Tom Cruise, and if you remember, the plot was

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Speaker 1: that he figured out that his law firms is part

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Speaker 1: of the way he got out of his big troubles.

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Speaker 2: His law firm was overbuilding.

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Speaker 1: People over a stating the amount of hours that they worked. Well,

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Speaker 1: that actually is happening at the Ford Motor Company right now.

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Speaker 1: Ford is now going after all of its outside law

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Speaker 1: firms because it says they've been overbuiling them.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, it looks like Ford has a case.

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Speaker 1: They produce some evidence yesterday that one of their law

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Speaker 1: firms has been billing them for fifty seven point five

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Speaker 1: hour workdays for each of his associates Now, I've heard

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Speaker 1: of hard workers, but when you can squeeze more than

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Speaker 1: two hours out of every hour of the day, that's impressive.

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Speaker 1: I think this is something that goes on at a

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Speaker 1: lot of major law firms with big companies. They figured

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Speaker 1: they won't notice, et cetera. And maybe they even give

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Speaker 1: some of the folks at Ford Motor Company who do

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Speaker 1: the accounting a little bit of a kickback. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but it's all over for those law firms, and Ford

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Speaker 1: has had it, and maybe Tom Cruise will help them

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Speaker 1: get out of this conspiracy. All right, Remember back in

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Speaker 1: February when Dodge it's all electric charger to be the

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Speaker 1: pace car for the Daytona five hundred, and we all

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Speaker 1: knew it still wouldn't scare up much buzz buzz or sales. Well,

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Speaker 1: we were right. It is not getting a lot of sales.

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Speaker 1: And now with those lackluster sales for the two door

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Speaker 1: EV charger, Dodge is pushing back its plans to roll

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Speaker 1: out the four door version. It was supposed to be

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Speaker 1: out in the first half of this year, and now

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Speaker 1: it's set for the fall. Here's a prediction they're going

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Speaker 1: to push it back again. That's just my prediction. But hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm not here to always just bash electric vehicles because

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Speaker 1: I have to tell you the news about another EV

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Speaker 1: in just two weeks since that company Slate that's backed

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Speaker 1: by Jeff Bezos, Amazon Finder or Jeff Bezos.

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Speaker 2: Remember I told you.

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Speaker 1: About that ultra cheap pickup electric pickup from Slate that's

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Speaker 1: so cheap. It has those cranking up windows, that's how

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Speaker 1: they save the money on it. It has a base

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Speaker 1: price well under twenty five thousand dollars. Well, there has

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Speaker 1: been so much interest in this car, in this truck.

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Speaker 1: It already has one hundred thousand people who have pre

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Speaker 1: ordered it. It costs fifty dollars for a pre order,

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Speaker 1: so you do the math. They've made a lot of

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Speaker 1: money on these pre orders already. People like cheap and

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Speaker 1: people like small pickup trucks, and the fact that it's

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Speaker 1: an EV. I guess it's okay because it's a small

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Speaker 1: pickup truck. If they were looking for a big one,

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Speaker 1: maybe they wouldn't get as much popularity.

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Speaker 2: But this is working.

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Speaker 1: So hey, Jeff Bezos is onto something. And the folks

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Speaker 1: making that cheap Slate EV truck okay?

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Speaker 2: Coming up? Is there a connection between the DC Jewish Museum.

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Speaker 1: Shooting and all the hate we're seeing on campuses, Will

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Speaker 1: ask a college campus radicalization expert, and speaking of campuses,

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration takes another big step and it's war

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Speaker 1: on hate at Harvard. That story and more when American

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Speaker 1: Sunrise early edition comes back. It's Friday, May twenty third.

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Speaker 1: Here are some of the top stories this morning. More

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Speaker 1: details are emerging about the anti Semitic attack at the

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Speaker 1: DC Jewish Museum that left the young couple dead. Police

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Speaker 1: and witnesses say the shooter walked away from the victims,

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Speaker 1: but then walk back, stood over them, and then fired

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Speaker 1: more rounds would have killed more people if his gun

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Speaker 1: head and jammed. The FBI is treating the shooting as

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Speaker 1: an active terror and the Justice Department is considering the

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Speaker 1: death penalty. Rampant anti semitism like that is costing Harvard again.

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Speaker 1: The Trump administration is now barring the university from accepting

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Speaker 1: foreign students. The administration says if Harvard doesn't go into

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Speaker 1: these students' histories and really check for their ties to

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Speaker 1: terror or espionage, they lose the right to admit them.

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Speaker 1: This is why Harvard can't have nice and believe me,

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Speaker 1: those foreign students usually pay for the full tuition. The

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court deadlocks on the question of whether to allow

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma to set up the first completely publicly funded religious school.

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Speaker 2: That means the lower court's ruling against.

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Speaker 1: The school will stand, and the Senate has now joined

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Speaker 1: the House in voting to negate California's moved to ban

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Speaker 1: all gas powered cars by twenty thirty five. President Trump

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Speaker 1: is now expected to sign that move into law. American

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Speaker 1: Sunrise Early Edition continues. Now, welcome to this not Tai Friday.

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Speaker 1: Here on American Sunrise Early Edition, I'm Jake Novak. Special

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Speaker 1: shout out to all of you getting ready to prepare

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Speaker 1: to observe Memorial Day not only with some family fund

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Speaker 1: but hopefully also at least a moment or some kind

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Speaker 1: of event where you'll where you will be marking and

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Speaker 1: remembering the fallen in our wars and conflicts. And today

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Speaker 1: this Friday is also my mom's birthday.

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Mom. I know she's watching all right.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now is Professor Stanley Ridgeley of Drexel University

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. He's also the author of the new book

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Speaker 1: DEI exposed how the biggest con of the century almost

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Speaker 1: toppled higher education. Professor, I want to ask you because

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Speaker 1: even though the shooter in DC was not a current

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Speaker 1: university student, I believe he's thirty one years old, although

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Speaker 1: I guess some people stay in university for a very

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Speaker 1: long time, but that's another story. But still it reminded

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Speaker 1: so many people of the radicalization we're seeing on college campuses,

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Speaker 1: which is something you know a lot about. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I saw one person go on I believe it was

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Speaker 1: CNN yesterday or the day before and tell the host

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Speaker 1: there that the look in the eyes of the shooter,

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Speaker 1: alias Rodriguez, reminded him of the looks in the eyes

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Speaker 1: of the people that he had seen protesting at Columbia University.

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling you agree or you've seen some

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Speaker 1: similar things, And what is the role of campus radicalization

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Speaker 1: in the overall radicalization of some of these gen z

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Speaker 1: or in this case, of millennials who I think are

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Speaker 1: getting radicalized. I think the universities are kind of, unfortunately

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Speaker 1: a power center for this.

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Speaker 6: I certainly agree with that. I think it's unfortunate that

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Speaker 6: the universities have become this carsalis, if you will, of

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Speaker 6: emerging hate and emerging the final stage of their ideology.

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Speaker 6: The ideologies on most universities that are embraced by the

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Speaker 6: university administrations and are in some respects are funded by

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Speaker 6: the universities has led to the logical progression and what

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Speaker 6: we're seeing today with Luigi Mangioni in New York, what

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Speaker 6: we seen saw last night, unfortunately, with this radicalized formist

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Speaker 6: student who was a member of a socialist radical group.

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Speaker 6: This is the final stage of what ideological thinking looks

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Speaker 6: like on the left. I think it's going to be

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Speaker 6: really interesting to see in the coming days who is

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Speaker 6: going to celebrate this type of activity by this character

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Speaker 6: Elia and Rodriguez, and who is going to condemn it. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 6: our universities have become centers of social justice, and social

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Speaker 6: justice has become a proxy for all kinds of hate

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Speaker 6: that you know, running under that banner civic engagement, social justice,

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Speaker 6: all of this has become an open door for a

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Speaker 6: lot of radicals to propound their idiology on the caster.

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Speaker 6: It's really a sad situation, and I think that the

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Speaker 6: Department of Education with respect to Harvard is really on

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Speaker 6: the right track and rooting this kind of thing, rooting

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Speaker 6: this kind of hate.

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Speaker 1: Out Yeah, let's talk about this Harvard situation right now,

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Speaker 1: because the Trump administration has at least for now blocked

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Speaker 1: Harvard's right to bring in foreign students. Now, I alluded

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Speaker 1: to this a little bit in the open for the

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Speaker 1: second half hour.

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Speaker 2: This isn't just about campus radicalization. You know.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons why there's been such an explosion

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Speaker 1: of foreign students at our elite universities over the last

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Speaker 1: thirty years because when I was going to an Ivy

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Speaker 1: League school in the late eighties nineteen nineties, I couldn't

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Speaker 1: remember any more than one or two foreign students. But

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Speaker 1: now there's been an explosion of it because professor, they

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Speaker 1: usually pay full tuition.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the real reason.

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Speaker 1: But Okay, there's also a major importation of radicalism, which

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Speaker 1: and I think some of the tenured faculty at some

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Speaker 1: of these schools have pushed for the admission of these

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Speaker 1: kids because they don't like American upper middle class and

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Speaker 1: rich kids. They want to get some of these more

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Speaker 1: radicalized people who are connected to radical groups. And the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration is saying, Nope, you guys haven't done enough job,

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Speaker 1: a good enough job of vetting these folks, and so

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Speaker 1: we're shutting that down. Do you think this will have

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Speaker 1: a positive impact at getting things on the right track

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Speaker 1: at Harvard and if they do it at other schools

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Speaker 1: other schools as well.

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Speaker 6: I surely do. I think that Harvard has complete power

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Speaker 6: to turn this around to have the Trump administration withdraw

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Speaker 6: this ban on enrolling in a national student. All they

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Speaker 6: have to do is to reveal the records of the

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Speaker 6: people who are engaged in this kind of hostile, illegal activity.

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Speaker 6: That's the issue, and most people don't realize that that

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Speaker 6: Harvard has complete control this contratepts the Trump administrations, the

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Speaker 6: Christy Nome and the Homeland Security said, look, if you

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Speaker 6: can't control your students and you won't reveal the people

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Speaker 6: who are engaged in these kinds of this kind of bullying, trespass, vandalism, assault,

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Speaker 6: then sure not going to enroll any more of them,

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Speaker 6: because unfortunately, there's a lot of international students who are

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Speaker 6: just here to study and to take back the fruits

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Speaker 6: of American education through their home countries, and they're going

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Speaker 6: to get caught up in this. Well, Harvard can again

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Speaker 6: can fix that by turning over the records of those

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Speaker 6: students who are engaged in illegal activities. That's the crux

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Speaker 6: of the matter. It's not some vendetta by the administration

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Speaker 6: against this particular university. And I think that this is

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Speaker 6: really welcome because accountability has come home to Harvard, and

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Speaker 6: Harvard is simply not used to that sort of thing.

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Speaker 6: The violence that we've seen in the streets, the violence

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Speaker 6: that we see has been inculcated in students, and a

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Speaker 6: lot of universities in colleges actually fund this kind of activism.

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Speaker 6: I give you brin Mark College. It's right on their website.

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Speaker 6: They fund student activism for social justice and civic engagement activities.

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Speaker 6: They fund protests, they'll pay for the transportation of students

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Speaker 6: to go to protests, but only a certain kind of protests.

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Speaker 6: You won't find any funding for students who support to say,

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Speaker 6: second amendments something like that. No, you'll find an exclusively

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Speaker 6: left wing disposition on the part of places like brin

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Speaker 6: Mark College and other universities. And you can find this yourself.

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Speaker 6: It's funding for left wing causes is available from the universities.

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Speaker 6: And this, if it's a public university, comes directly from

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Speaker 6: the taxpayers and certainly from parents' hard or intuition dollars.

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Speaker 6: So it is really a systemic problem, and I believe

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Speaker 6: that this spotlight on it is going to get some

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Speaker 6: reform much needed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and I want to as long as

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Speaker 1: we're still talking about campus radicalization, I want to keep

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Speaker 1: it here. Just for a second, I heard a very

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Speaker 1: elegant term. For years, I was using a term called

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Speaker 1: the qu for a day syndrome. There used to be

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Speaker 1: a radio program where people would come on and tell

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Speaker 1: their SOB stories and the audience would vote on who

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Speaker 1: Was kind of a sickening show, but very popular. Someone

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Speaker 1: came up with a much more elegant term the other day.

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Speaker 1: I think it was Owen Gregorian. He called it competitive victimhood.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the reasons why you're

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Speaker 1: seeing so much anti semitism on campus, because everyone knows

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Speaker 1: that the Jewish people have been victimized over thousands of years,

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Speaker 1: but that there are people who believe that discussing anyone

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Speaker 1: else's victimhood somehow takes away sympathy from them. So there

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Speaker 1: are people like Whoopy Goldberg who's angry and when people

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Speaker 1: talk about the Holocaust because she thinks that takes away

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Speaker 1: focus on black slavery and things like that. And there

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Speaker 1: are people like Elias Rodriguez who think that if you

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Speaker 1: remind people that there are Jewish people who are a minority,

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Speaker 1: they might forget that there are other people who are

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is exactly what's going on on some

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Speaker 1: of these campuses. And that's why I think it gets violent,

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Speaker 1: because it isn't just a case of oh, there's a

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Speaker 1: press or in oppress. There's also among the oppressed there's

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Speaker 1: a big jockeying for position to who wins that Queen

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Speaker 1: for a Day prize. And so it leads to violence

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Speaker 1: because you look at that person and you say, hey,

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Speaker 1: you're taking away my sympathy, and I might want to

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Speaker 1: kill you. I think that's what's going on in these

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Speaker 1: campuses as well. Do you see that in the university settings.

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Speaker 7: Well, it is.

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Speaker 6: Indeed like a it's like an oppression Olympics. You know,

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Speaker 6: you're going for the gold medal to be the one

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Speaker 6: who's on the platform and to be lionized for your victimhood.

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Speaker 6: The psychological malady that psycho psychologists name this is a

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Speaker 6: virtuous victimhood where you are basically making a lot of money,

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Speaker 6: like getting a lot of prestige off of your ascribed victimhood,

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Speaker 6: and you want to make you want to put this

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Speaker 6: foot forward that you are indeed a victim, that is

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Speaker 6: your primary identity. It really is involved with paranoia, narcissism,

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Speaker 6: vanity to become this victim and to be to mark

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Speaker 6: yourself as a victim. But and you're right, it disallows

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Speaker 6: any other actual victimhood. Whoopie Goldberg's perfect example, lamenting something

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Speaker 6: that happened, you know, and was dispelled and dispensed with

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Speaker 6: well over one hundred and fifty years ago, vis a

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Speaker 6: something the Holocaust, which happened within our lifetimes, some people's lifetimes,

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Speaker 6: and we still have people alive who experience that. It's

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Speaker 6: real victimhood, actual victimhood that but we can't allow that

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Speaker 6: if it's because it doesn't fit the campus template of radicalism.

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Speaker 6: When you hear student activism, I think you'll you have

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Speaker 6: to realize something that universities and colleges nationwide have really

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Speaker 6: begun to use the term leadership training when they talk

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Speaker 6: about student activism. So when you see the education schools,

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Speaker 6: for instance, talk about leadership, they're really talking about social

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Speaker 6: justice activism read socialism read a certain far left activism.

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Speaker 6: And I think really that Luigimangioni and Elia Rodriguez are

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Speaker 6: people who are in the final stage of this kind

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Speaker 6: of activism. They're actually acting out their ideology. And I

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Speaker 6: fear that we're going to see much more of this

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Speaker 6: because there's been no check on it whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: Noah, there hasn't.

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Speaker 1: But you know, if you and again I think I

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Speaker 1: know these are things that you touch on in your

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Speaker 1: book DEI Exposed, because this is what I think DEI does.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong in my opinion, and I think the

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Speaker 1: opinion of most Americans in trying to help people who

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Speaker 1: have not had the same opportunities as richer or just

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Speaker 1: more fortunate people towards giving them a better opportunity.

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Speaker 2: But DEI does much more than that.

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Speaker 1: The D and D and I should really stand for demonization,

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Speaker 1: not diversity, because I think that's the key.

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Speaker 2: They don't seem to be able.

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Speaker 1: To ask for people's opportunities to be increased without demonizing

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Speaker 1: someone else, and that is weak thinking.

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Speaker 2: Look at the early civil rights movement.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't about people saying, hey, you have to attack

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Speaker 1: somebody else. It wasn't about that, and I think that

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Speaker 1: that's where they've gone off the rails. Professor Stanley Ridgely,

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Speaker 1: have a great Memorial Day weekend. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us, especially when these news stories are breaking.

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Speaker 1: Whoever thought someone in a university setting would be the

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Speaker 1: person to go to for breaking news, But hey, all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's happening.

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Speaker 2: So thank you so much for joining me.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, have a good weekend.

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Speaker 2: All right, coming up.

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Speaker 1: They didn't mean to do it, but the four justices

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Speaker 1: who voted against allowing Oklahoma to fully fund a Catholic school,

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Speaker 1: I think actually struck a blow for religious freedom.

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Speaker 2: And my old buddy Thomas Jefferson told me so.

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Speaker 1: David Brody and I will discuss it when American Sunrise

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Speaker 1: Early Edition continued.

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Speaker 1: fun to do when the weather's nice. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have nice weather in New York until Sunday,

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Speaker 1: but maybe try it then.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to.

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Speaker 1: American Sunrise early edition. I'm Jake Novak. It is a

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Speaker 1: no tie Friday, all right, I'm old. I'm not really

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Speaker 1: this old, but I'm joking around when I say that

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Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson was my friend. But if he were my friend,

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Speaker 1: he would have told me this, because of course I've

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Speaker 1: extensively studied his writings, and a lot of people mix

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Speaker 1: something up about Thomas Jefferson. Yes, he was an agnostic. No,

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Speaker 1: he was not a devout religious person in the way

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Speaker 1: that we see it today. But he was also very very,

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Speaker 1: very very smart, and he was a big advocate for

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Speaker 1: the separation of church and state. And a lot of

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Speaker 1: people learn in school about that assuming that because Thomas

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Speaker 1: Jefferson was an agnostic, they assumed that meant that he

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Speaker 1: didn't like the church, he didn't like religion, and he

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Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that the mean old church didn't

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Speaker 1: meddle with the state. Now, that was true to some extent,

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Speaker 1: but really the real reason was that Thomas Jefferson was

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Speaker 1: smart enough to know that when church and state mixed,

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Speaker 1: it's usually at the detriment of the church to the church.

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Speaker 1: In other words, he was worried about that. Thomas Jefferson

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Speaker 1: started and founded the University of Virginia. Many of you

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Speaker 1: know that, but he himself was a student at William

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Speaker 1: and Mary, an Anglican College, and the Anglican priests who

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Speaker 1: taught him, he believed, were absolutely corrupted by their loyalty

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Speaker 1: to the King of England, and he felt that that

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Speaker 1: ruined their relationship with God and their theology. Now why

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Speaker 1: am I talking about this, David Brody's going to join

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Speaker 1: me now, because I believe that the fact that the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court, because they deadlocked in that vote yesterday, the

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Speaker 1: fact locked the state of Oklahoma from funding a Catholic

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Speaker 1: school is actually a good thing for religious freedom because

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Speaker 1: I know this personally from my experiences looking.

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Speaker 2: At these schools, the religious.

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Speaker 1: Schools that are fully government funded in Europe, and that's

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Speaker 1: usually what the case is, fully government funded in Canada.

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Speaker 2: Guess how much religious freedom they have.

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Speaker 1: When a radical student or a radical parent wants to

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Speaker 1: go into a Catholic school in Canada and put forth

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Speaker 1: a radical anti religious agenda, there's nothing the school can

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Speaker 1: do about it because the government funds them. And so

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you be careful whose bed you crawl into,

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Speaker 1: because that is something that will hurt you. Religiously in

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Speaker 1: in the end, I know the Supreme Court didn't mean

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Speaker 1: to do religion a favor here, but David, I think

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Speaker 1: they did.

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Speaker 2: Listen. I get the point, Jake.

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Speaker 9: And who am I to argue with you or Thomas Jefferson,

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Speaker 9: for sure, But here here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Look, there's a lot to unpack here.

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Speaker 9: This is the same argument they make about gay marriage, right,

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Speaker 9: I mean, it's the same You're making that same argument,

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Speaker 9: which is basically, have the have the government stay out

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Speaker 9: of this whole situation as it relates to marriage. Let

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Speaker 9: this be within the church, the synagogue, whatever it is.

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Speaker 9: Let it be community based, let it be private based,

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Speaker 9: because if you get it into a codification of codification

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Speaker 9: codifying into law, then it gets murky. The government should

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Speaker 9: just stay out to begin with. It's kind of the

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Speaker 9: same parameters what you're talking about, what Thomas Jefferson to

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Speaker 9: a degree is talking about the problem here, Jake. And

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Speaker 9: the only bone I have to pick with you on this,

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Speaker 9: and it's a big one, is that this was a

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Speaker 9: charter school approved by the parents.

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Speaker 2: They want this.

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Speaker 9: They might not think that, you know, if it doesn't work,

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Speaker 9: it doesn't work, But it was approved. I mean so

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Speaker 9: this idea that you know, charter schools shouldn't get funded up,

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Speaker 9: religious charter schools shouldn't get funding from the state. I

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Speaker 9: think there's a bigger problem going down the road to

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Speaker 9: start a track record of people going well wait a minute, Okay,

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Speaker 9: so we're going to start there. Then one else comes

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Speaker 9: after that. So I think it's a dangerous road to

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Speaker 9: go down if we don't fund religious charter schools. And

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Speaker 9: so look, I don't know, and look here's the and

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Speaker 9: one last thing, yeah, well just one last thing.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know we have to be quick. But

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Speaker 2: if the you know, the state, if.

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Speaker 9: They're going to put all these restrictions on religious schools,

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Speaker 9: well then they have a choice. The Catholic charity or

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Speaker 9: excuse me, Catholic school is a choice to say, no,

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Speaker 9: we're not we're going to disband.

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Speaker 2: We're going to disband. That's right.

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Speaker 1: I have a work around. Just let the parents do

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Speaker 1: with their money what they would be doing anyway, and

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Speaker 1: keep and keep the government out of it.

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Speaker 2: That way, all right. American Sunrise coming up next,