1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Don't every day up waiting, click your ass up the 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: breakfast club finish for y'all. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: Gum. 4 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Yes, it's the world most dangerous waning to show to 5 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. CHARLAMAGNEA God, DJ NV, just hilarious, Envy and 6 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: just are gone. But ll Kuba Lauren Lrosa is here 7 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: and we got Testling figure O sitting in because we 8 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: have a very special guest, the former mayor of Atlanta, 9 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: and she's running for governor Georgia. 10 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: Miss Keisha Lance Bottoms is here. 11 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, Thank you for having me. 12 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: Thank you for coming. How do you feel? 13 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: I feel great. It's great to be here. It's I 14 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 3: had a fundbraiser in New York and great to see 15 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: you in person. 16 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely What move made you want to run for governor 17 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Georgia in these crazy times? 18 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we we are living. It's like in the twilight 19 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 3: zone right now. So I woke up the day after 20 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 3: the election in November, like so many people, wondering what 21 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: it meant for me personally and just for us as 22 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: a nation, for Georgia as a state. And I did 23 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: a lot of praying, a lot of talking, and then 24 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: some more praying, and I decided in season to get 25 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 3: back in the ring. We need strong leadership, and people 26 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: are looking to states and to local governments to stand 27 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: in the gap because we've got so much craziness and 28 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: chaos coming out of DC right now. 29 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: You know, Stacey Abrams ran for governor twice and she 30 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: fell short even with massive national attention. What would you 31 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: do differently so Georgia, you know, it doesn't be like 32 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: oh another almost yeah. 33 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 3: Well, you know, Charlemagne, one of the first national interviews 34 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 3: I did was when I was a candidate for mayor 35 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 3: and you had me on and we did it the 36 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 3: old fashioned way. You go knock on doors, you call people. 37 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: Now we've got TikTok and all these other ways that 38 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 3: you have to communicate with people sitting here. I mean, 39 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: your audience is massive. We have to cover it all. 40 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: And what you do. You look at every election, from 41 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: Stacy's elections to the VP being on the ballot in November. 42 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: You take what work, you keep it, and then what 43 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: didn't work as well, then you fix. And the reality 44 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: is this, You know, there is a reason that Georgia 45 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: went blue in nineteen and twenty. We've got two state 46 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: senators who are two senators from Georgia who are Democrats. 47 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 3: So it's possible. It just hasn't happened yet, but it's 48 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 3: certainly possible. 49 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of critics say Democrats in Georgia 50 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: can't win statewide unless they run more moderate, like would 51 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: you play to the center or lean fully into like progressive. 52 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: Well, you know, my mom always says, you don't have 53 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 3: to tell the truth once, and the truth the truth is. 54 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I am a moderate there, you know, you 55 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: just standing your truth and what you believe in. And 56 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 3: I believe that there are some policies that work from 57 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: the left. There are some policies that may be more conservative, 58 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, it's about getting 59 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: things done. And when I served as mayor, we got 60 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: a lot of things done, from adding and preserving seven 61 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: thousand units of affordable housing, to get in our city 62 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: workers up to a minimum wage of fifteen dollars an 63 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 3: hour because in Georgia it's just over five dollars an 64 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 3: hour to I mean, I can give an entire list 65 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: of things that we were able to accomplish, but it 66 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: was standing in our truth and what our values were. 67 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought that up because you were known 68 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 4: in Atlanta for real standing up for people against the 69 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 4: predatory lending and how the home buyers were getting things 70 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: taken and things like that. The homeowners. Can you speak 71 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 4: a little bit about that, well. 72 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: Affordable housing was a big push from our administration. And 73 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: it's not just an issue in urban areas. It's happening 74 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: in rural communities as well. We've been traveling around the state. 75 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: It's happening around the country, and you all know it's 76 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: people are paying attention to the mayor's race in New York. 77 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: Affordability is an issue. So we did focus not just 78 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: on affordable housing, but also helping the unbanked. We had 79 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: programs that would help people who were under their bank 80 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: or couldn't go to traditional institutions to even cash their 81 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: checks at the end of the work week, making sure 82 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: that we could help build up their credit, making sure 83 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: that they had a relationship with the bank. We were 84 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: able to do that through the US Conference and mayors. 85 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: Financial literacy is so important, whether it's from helping somebody 86 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 3: get a down payment on their first home to helping 87 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 3: to create credit that allows them to even think about 88 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: getting their first home. So it's like the approach is layered. 89 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: We know that there are a multitude of challenges that 90 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 3: people are facing, but government can and should help address 91 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: some of those and sometimes it's in conjunction with the 92 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 3: private sector. 93 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: I want to ask you, forty nine women have been 94 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 4: elected as governor and not one has been a black woman. 95 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: When you talk about what hasn't worked and what didn't work, 96 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 4: what are some some of the challenges that you see 97 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 4: that all though successful in Atlanta, which is the black mecca, 98 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 4: how will you, I guess galvanized when you look at 99 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 4: Georgia as a state, which is very different than Atlanta 100 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 4: being I would say it's own, you know, own state 101 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: by itself. How are you going to you know, reach 102 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 4: out to those communities that are not interested, you know, 103 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 4: in electing and not just a woman of color of 104 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 4: specifically a black woman. How do you how do you 105 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: plan on dealing with those challenges? 106 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: Well, the reality is this, we've never had a woman 107 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: an elected governor in Georgia either, and it is about 108 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 3: meeting people where they are. So we've been traveling around 109 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 3: the state. Atlanta is a great place, but I can't 110 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: rely just on Atlanta. If I did, if any candidate did, 111 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: we wouldn't win. So we've been making Warner Robbins Augusta 112 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: will be in Auburny next week. We have been to Savannah, 113 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: Chatham County. We're moving around the state talking directly to people. 114 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: So I've got this whole list of issues that i 115 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: want to focus on. Eliminating state income taxes for our teachers, 116 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: we got to teach a shortage, expanding medicaid in our state. 117 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 3: We've got nine rural hospitals who have closed. We have 118 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 3: half our counties who don't have obgyns, don't have pediatricians, 119 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: more deaths than births in more than half our counties 120 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 3: in the state. That's unacceptable. So we're moving around talking 121 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: to people. I've got my list of issues, but as 122 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: I'm hearing from people, I'm adding to that list. And 123 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 3: it's about reaching everybody, black women, black men, brown people, 124 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: white people. It's about listening and being willing to course 125 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: correct when necessary. 126 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: You know, Republicans in Georgia don't play fedal. You got 127 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: voter suppression. Jerry Manderain couturewards like, do you think you 128 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: can really outstrategize that you feel like you like kind 129 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: of walking into a trap. 130 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: No, We've done it before. I mean, and I know 131 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 3: you all are paying attention to what's happening in Georgia. 132 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: Five hundred thousand people have been removed from our voter roles. 133 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: There are hearings happening right now in the state where 134 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: they're trying to reduce early voting and remove absentee voting. 135 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: In this whole list, and when you look at a 136 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: place like Georgia where the margins are so thin, it matters. 137 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: So you mentioned Stacy Stacy's first race fifty five thousand votes. 138 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: She lost by the vice president one hundred thousand votes. 139 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: That's not a lot when you have millions of people 140 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: showing up to vote. So again, what we got to 141 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: do is keep talking to people, get them energized. Listen, listen, listen. 142 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: I've got four children, three are teenagers, one is twenty three. 143 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: I got to stop clutching my pearls when they say 144 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 3: things I don't agree with, because it's their reality. And 145 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: as candidates, it's great that we go up on television 146 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: and do all these fancy things. We got to go 147 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: into the barbershops, the beauty shops. We got to listen 148 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: to people. 149 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 5: And then act accordingly in the beginning of the interview 150 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 5: of Charlie may ask you like, why now in these 151 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 5: crazy times that I'm hearing you talk about like going 152 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 5: out and doing things. And the first thing I thought of, 153 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 5: especially with you being the first if elected, was uh 154 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 5: Kamala Harris's book, and she talked about, you know, just 155 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 5: a lot of the struggles she went through because as 156 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 5: a black woman, they weren't they didn't know that. Not 157 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 5: only did they not know what to do, it wasn't 158 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 5: built for her, but they didn't support and she dealt 159 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 5: with a lot behind the scenes. I know you you 160 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 5: worked with the Bidy campaign. 161 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: What did you. 162 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 5: Experience then, if I if at all anything that is 163 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 5: preparing you for what you're potentially about to walk into 164 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 5: as first woman black woman governor. 165 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I worked in White House, and you can't work 166 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 3: in the White House and sit in that senior meeting 167 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: every morning just a few steps from the Oval office 168 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 3: and not be a better leader. You see how things 169 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: get done, and it is challenging anytime that you are 170 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: the first in the room, but it's also this opportunity. 171 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: I would always chuckle to myself when the President would say, Keisha, 172 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: what do you think? And I would think. I bet 173 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: nobody's ever been asked in the old office, So you know, 174 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: they're challenges, but there are also a lot of opportunities 175 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 3: there and a lot of times when we are the first, 176 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: it's hardest for us in those spaces, but you're opening 177 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: doors so that hopefully you won't be the last and 178 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: it won't be as difficult as people coming behind you. 179 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: How do you. 180 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: Navigate supporting the president like Biden while still being honest 181 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: about what he could have done better and he could 182 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: have done better for black communities, because I'm all record 183 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: is seeing the now of the Democratic Party and the 184 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: future of the Democratic Party, you got to throw that 185 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: old regime under the bus. And the VP does a 186 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: great job of doing that in her new book. 187 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: I don't know if you read it yet, but no, 188 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: I haven't read it yet. But you know, there were 189 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 3: a lot of great things that happened from the Biden 190 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: Harris administration that delivered for our communities, and I think 191 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 3: unfortunately right now, just a couple of days ago, I 192 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: was speaking with someone about black farmers on all the 193 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: strides that had been made in our rural community specifically 194 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: to support black farmers. Trump administration's already clawed it back. 195 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: So there were a lot of things that were done well, 196 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: and I'm very proud of that. Hindsight is always twenty twenty. 197 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 3: You think about things that perhaps could have been done differently, 198 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, that administration delivered 199 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: a lot of wins for our communities. And now we 200 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: got to look forward and figure out how do we 201 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: keep going, how do we keep building, how do we 202 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 3: keep moving? Even when I talk to you, when I 203 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: was running for mayor several years ago, Instagram was this 204 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: new thing, this new communications tool that we were using. 205 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 3: We're light years away from that. And if we are stagnant, 206 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: then we're not going to progress as a party. But 207 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 3: what I know is this, this democracy that we live 208 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: in for now to work and progress, and we've got 209 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: to be nimble the Republican Party, you know, I compare 210 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 3: these maga Republicans a broken clock is right twice a day. 211 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: They've hit it on messaging, and they've hit it on 212 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 3: the long game, and I think we can learn some 213 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 3: lessons in that. 214 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: I guess that's it for me. 215 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: Right like Democrats, you know, Democrats couldn't message when they 216 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: were winning, right at least on a federal level. So 217 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: now that they're losing, what can the party message the people? 218 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: And I know, I know it's just a state race, 219 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: but you're still representing the Democratic Party. 220 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: So what is the message now? 221 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: Well, I think Charlotte Mane like, we'll be looking at 222 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: you all to help us with that too, Like how 223 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: do people get their messaging? How do we communicate with people? 224 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: We perfected political messaging and ads and all these things 225 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: that we've done for decades on end. What we've not 226 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: perfected is and I'll just go back to this example. 227 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: I remember my now fifteen year old son was like 228 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 3: looking at some NBA something or another on television and 229 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: I heard Trump's voice coming through. I'm like, what is 230 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: Donald Trump? Like what are you watching? And he's like, 231 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: oh yeah, he's on here all the time because he 232 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: was talking to our kids when we were still on 233 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 3: cable TV. So I think it's going to take all 234 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 3: of us. It's going to take us thinking differently. You know, 235 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 3: the way that we've traditionally done politics clearly doesn't always work. 236 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: It's not always effective. You can still be principled, but 237 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: you can still be willing to learn something new. And 238 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: that's a challenge. And for me again, I'm listening when 239 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 3: I go into barbershop with my kids. I'm listening when 240 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: my son tells me, you know what he did two 241 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: three years before the election, we had a problem with 242 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 3: young black men. I'm like no, poland saying x y Z. 243 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 3: He's like, no, y'all got a problem. So I'm learning. 244 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: I'm learning to listen. 245 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: You know, you know Keisha a black mother. 246 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: From the start, she said, my son was watching some 247 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: NBA something something something. 248 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: I won't go back to when you said a part 249 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 4: of it is leaning on us, And I want to 250 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 4: talk about pressure that a lot of us we put 251 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 4: on you know Democrats as well. I know Charldamain's taking 252 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 4: a lot of heat for it. I've certainly talking a 253 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 4: lot of heat. I want to go back to what 254 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 4: you said about the black farmers. And so, although the 255 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 4: Biden administration did deliver, still pressure had to be put 256 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,599 Speaker 4: on the Biden administration to do the right thing. In 257 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, turning Bedroom Crump pat two foul a 258 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: lawsuit against President Biden. So I think it's fair to 259 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 4: say that, yes, the Biden administration delivered. Yes, they certainly 260 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 4: did more than what a previous administration would do or 261 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: perhaps what another administration would do. But he also, because 262 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 4: I remember, was he was very conflicted about having to 263 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 4: do that. And so how do we be honest enough 264 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 4: for people to say that, yes, we are putting pressure 265 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 4: on possibly your favorite president or whoever you may like, 266 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 4: in order to get things done. And how can we 267 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 4: be honest about that when we're, you know, doing our 268 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 4: advocacy in the media. Basically, can you respect that that 269 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 4: I may have to say this, ain't it y'all not 270 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 4: doing the right thing because it's traditionally business, well you're 271 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 4: helping Trump or you're helping other side, when that's not it. 272 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 4: We're trying to just actually help the black farmers. 273 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, And what I'll say is this is we can't 274 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: let perfection get in the way of us participating. I'm 275 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 3: not saying that Biden Harris administration was perfect. Clearly it 276 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: wasn't perfect. But I'll put the worst day of the 277 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: Biden Harris administration up against this Trump administration any day 278 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: of the week, because at least I knew we had 279 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: a chance. And again, elections are about looking forward. We 280 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: want to make sure that when we elect people that 281 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: we have a chance to have us see at the table. 282 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: I've been inside the White House, so I know he 283 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: gets to walk through the door and have those hard conversations. 284 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: Sometimes you agree, sometimes you disagree. But as we look 285 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 3: to twenty twenty six, we got to think about do 286 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: we want to have a chance again? Do we want 287 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: to have a fighting chance? And my concern right now 288 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: is at the rate that we are going and the 289 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: way our democracy is being unraveled, literally hour by hour, 290 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: that if we surrender our right to participate, we're not 291 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: gonna have anything to participate in. John Lewis was my congressman. 292 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: He represented my district, and I'm often reminded of his words. 293 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: Our vote is the most powerful weapon that we have 294 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: in a democracy. If we don't use it, we will 295 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: lose it. I get that people are frustrated, and people 296 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: are choosing the couch. They're not choosing Democrats, they're not 297 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: choosing Republicans. They're just disgusted. I ain't going for none 298 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: of y'all. And that is the worst thing that we 299 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: can do, is to give up and not be a 300 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 3: part of the conversation and not be counted. So no, 301 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: no administration gets it all right. The Obama administration didn't 302 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: get it all right. The Clinton administration didn't get it 303 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: all right, but we at least had a chance to 304 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: try again. I don't see that with this Trump administration. 305 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: You know, one thing you did when you was mayor, 306 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: you gave raisers for police officers and firefighters and always say, 307 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, more money should go in 308 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: police officers pockets. Right, I feel like, you know, if 309 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: you have a higher salary for police officers, you'll get 310 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: a higher quality of a person for the job. 311 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: Right. Why did you decide to do that. 312 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: We had a retention issue. We were really struggling, and 313 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 3: we were Our officers were leaving, they were coming to 314 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 3: get trained in Atlanta, they were leaving to go to 315 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: other surrounding metro area cities and counties because we were 316 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 3: not on par not just locally but nationally as well. 317 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 3: Our firefighters hadn't gotten their money, their appropriate raises in 318 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: fifty years. And at the end of the day, it's 319 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: you know, whatever your position is on police officers or 320 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: public safety in general, you know, it's not just about 321 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: calling somebody when there's a crime, When you have a 322 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 3: car accident, when somebody breaks in your car, you got 323 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 3: to have somebody who can come and investigate and then 324 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: be able to go show up in court and testify 325 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 3: and do all those things. So it was important, and 326 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 3: you know it was. I didn't get the support of 327 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 3: police officers or firefighters when I ran, but I thought 328 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,239 Speaker 3: that it was the right thing to do and it 329 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: was the right thing to do for our city. 330 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 2: Did they give you credit after the fake they did? 331 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 5: They did some of your kids. I know you got 332 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 5: four kids, your wife and some of your kids are older. 333 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 5: I heard you say something help you with like social 334 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 5: media stuff like that, Like how do you balance because 335 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 5: what you do in politics is very demanding. How you 336 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 5: balance It's like life outside of that. 337 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 3: With everything else that balance for a lot of people. 338 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, thankfully, I have an 339 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: incredible family that sacrifices more than anybody could possibly understand. 340 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: And my therapist said something to me that I keep 341 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 3: in my heart a lot. She said, you were a 342 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: strong mayor. I want you to be a powerful governor. 343 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 3: Strong women push through. They have heart attacks, they have strokes, 344 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 3: and they die. She said, powerful women stop, they learned 345 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: a lesson and then then only then do they move on. 346 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: So for me, it's about balance. So if I have 347 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: to if I have to stop what I'm doing and 348 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: be balanced when it comes to the needs of my 349 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: kids or my family, my husband, that's what I have 350 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: to do because that's power. Because when I'm out of sync, 351 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 3: my family's out of sync, my community is out of sync. 352 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: So I'm I'm focused on being powerful as a mother, 353 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 3: as a wife, and as a leader, and balance is hard, 354 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 3: but it's a choice. 355 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 4: It means you think women get that grace though, because 356 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 4: you don't really hear men saying I'm gonna be balanced, 357 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be a mother. Do you think that's why 358 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 4: people have a problem women leader? Yeah, exactly, Like they 359 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 4: don't want a leader that's gonna be balanced. They want 360 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 4: completely off balance and totally focused the inn on that. 361 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 4: So I mean, do you think that plays a part 362 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 4: and why? Yeah, I don't want women leadership. 363 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: Life isn't fair. People are gonna always take exception to 364 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: what you choose and how you choose. But for me, 365 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 3: I know that I'm a more powerful leader when I'm 366 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 3: balanced than when I take the time to take a 367 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 3: walk or when I take the time to do something 368 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 3: like listen to a book. It makes me stronger, and 369 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: it makes me more focus. It makes me a better mother, 370 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 3: makes me a better wife, it makes me a better leader, 371 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 3: and a lot of times, you know, whatever your profession is, 372 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 3: we often don't find that balance and we don't choose 373 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: it for ourselves. So we go. You know, I was 374 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: strong and I pushed through and then we pass out 375 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 3: somewhere because we've been pushing through, and power is saying 376 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 3: sometimes I got to put me first. You know, we 377 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: often hear this metaphor when you're on the plane, you 378 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 3: got to put your oxygen mask on first. Well, that's true, 379 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,719 Speaker 3: because if I'm not right, nobody is right in my house. 380 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 5: What are your therapy as much as you want to share, 381 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 5: what are your therapy sessions? Like, how do you separate 382 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 5: Keisha land Spottoms as the person, the mom, the wife 383 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 5: versus I'm coming here because my job in politics are 384 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 5: putting me in a bad mental space? 385 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: Or do they all come together in therapy? It all 386 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: comes together. I love therapy. It's wonderful too. I highly 387 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 3: recommend it too, you know, because you get to unpack 388 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: all these things. You know, we live our lives and 389 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 3: we think they're like these segmented spaces in our lives. 390 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 3: But through therapy, what I have found is it's all related. 391 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 3: You bring all that childhood stuff with you, the good, 392 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 3: the bad, the ugly. It comes with you into adulthood, 393 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: it comes with you into marriage, it comes with you 394 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 3: into parenthood. Like you bring it all in. If you 395 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: don't understand it, sometimes it just doesn't make sense. And 396 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 3: the thing I love about therapy is that it's somebody 397 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 3: who It's not like you're arguing with your spouse, like 398 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 3: you're not taking a position. It's somebody who's neutral and 399 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 3: who's helping you unpack it. My therapist can talk to 400 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 3: me for ten minutes about something I've been talking to 401 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 3: my husband about for ten years, and I'm like, oh, okay, 402 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: I understand that. I get it because it's this neutral 403 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: person who's trained to help you process and unpack. And 404 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 3: quite frankly, given all of the challenges we're having with 405 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: mental health, especially in the black community, like I'm really 406 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: proud to speak about it publicly because it is taboo, 407 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 3: and we know people are dealing with PTSD, anxiety, depression 408 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: and all these things that we often don't identify or 409 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: that we even call a weakness. Sometimes in the black community. 410 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 3: But it's just like if you had high blood pressure diabetes, 411 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: we say you need to go see a doctor. Well, 412 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 3: it's the same thing with mental health. If you're struggling, 413 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 3: sometimes you got to go talk to somebody who's a 414 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 3: trained professional who can help you unpack and process. 415 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: You know, you talked about a servant leadership a lot, right, Like, 416 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: is it possible for a politician to actually be a 417 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: publicier because I always see a lot of people who 418 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: were servant leaders right, they were public services, but boy, 419 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: when they get into politics, they you know, compromise themselves 420 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: real quick. 421 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 422 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 3: Well, one I say, I don't think people, I don't 423 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 3: think you should be a broke politician because you know, 424 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 3: and sometimes people don't have the choice in terms of 425 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 3: their income. But I've seen that sometimes that can be 426 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 3: challenging for people that if you know, you're signing a 427 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 3: stack of contracts like this worth one hundred hundreds of 428 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 3: millions of dollars, for some people, it can't be tempting 429 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 3: to kind of, you know, not be honest brokers out 430 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 3: of necessity or whatever the reasons. I would say, you know, 431 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 3: for a lot of people, we want everybody at the table. 432 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: We want representation of a cross section of people. But 433 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 3: what I tell people, especially younger politicians, is you can 434 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: have a life after politics. So even if you go 435 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 3: in and your income is not great and you're looking 436 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 3: at these contracts you're signing for people getting millions of 437 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: dollars in contracts, then plan for your future. Don't touch 438 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 3: it now, Just plan for your future because at the 439 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 3: end of the day, you're there to serve and you're 440 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: there to stay free. And for black politicians especially, we 441 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 3: are often targets and unfortunately sometimes you know it's we 442 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: make it too easy to get in trouble. 443 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: So basically, do right by the people when you in 444 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: office and get that money. Once you get don do 445 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: right by the people. 446 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: The best political advice I got was from a friend 447 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 3: of mine who said, whatever you do, make sure you 448 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 3: can always go home. And what he meant by that 449 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: was like when I walk in the grocery store, I'm 450 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 3: not afraid. I can hold my head up high. People 451 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 3: may not agree with me, but I can defend anything 452 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 3: I've done, any decision I've ever made, even if it's 453 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 3: as much as saying I made a mistake, I do 454 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 3: it differently, but I can see I still live in 455 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: the same house, same community, I shop in the same store, 456 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: like all the things are still the same because when 457 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 3: I left off as I was able to go back home. 458 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 4: I want to ask your thoughts on because I'll be 459 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: honest with you. I'm an independent, I used to be 460 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 4: a Democrat, and I'm gonna be honest the messaging on, well, 461 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 4: at least we have a chance. That don't really land 462 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 4: with me, Like I want the straight you know, we 463 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 4: going in we are taking whatever we can get, which 464 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 4: I get, you know, and I understand your point. But 465 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 4: I'm loving the energy that Governor Newsom is on right now, 466 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 4: and he's been inspiring to a lot of a lot 467 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 4: of people may not agree with his politics. I think 468 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 4: everybody has a role to play politics. Your personality, your personality, 469 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 4: his is his. Do you see him being helpful over 470 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 4: because I know you're running for governor, but the Democrat 471 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 4: Party as a whole bringing the smoke. What have been 472 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 4: your thoughts on him being able to play that at 473 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 4: offense defense, you know, to kind of say things that 474 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 4: maybe other politicians cannot, or to kind of run that play. 475 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 4: How have you been have you been received, have you 476 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: been clutching your pearls. 477 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 3: I love it. I mean, and that's his personality. So 478 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 3: I love it, I think, and people are looking for 479 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 3: people who are authentic and genuine in their leadership. That's 480 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,479 Speaker 3: his style, and I mean, I'm here for it. And 481 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 3: what I would say, you know, even with you identifying 482 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: as an independent, the respect that I have for that 483 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 3: is that we can't take anybody for granted. And what 484 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 3: I'm saying in this season, people are so much more informed. 485 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 3: And I'm a Delta. I did something with a group 486 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: of Deltas and when I tell you, they asked me 487 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 3: the hardest questions of any group that I've been around, 488 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,479 Speaker 3: you know, and I was like, wow, okay, and they 489 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 3: were there in support of me, but they want to 490 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 3: like so you know, I'm not taking anybody for granted. 491 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 3: We shouldn't take anybody for granted. I think at the 492 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 3: end of the day, you know, a lot of people 493 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 3: are more not Democrat, not Republican, and more in the 494 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: middle than even we self identify as. But going back 495 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: to Gavin Newsome, I love what he's doing. I love 496 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: that he's owning it. I think that he is brilliant. 497 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 3: I love that it is authentic to him. And I 498 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: love that he is meeting the moment. I think the 499 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: biggest danger for any of us would be to engage 500 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: in ways is that that's not authentic to us because 501 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: people see it, and you know, people have a high 502 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 3: BS radar, and if it's not real, people are going 503 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 3: to pick up on that too. It's real for him. 504 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 5: What if your thoughts been around your safety going back 505 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 5: into office like I. 506 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 3: Know you had, Like you got your security. 507 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 5: Dind it for some time because the death threat you're 508 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 5: receiving and Trump's in office, and you guys had your 509 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 5: back and forth with the whole resignation thing, where you're thought, 510 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 5: it's just a crazy time. What are your thoughts around that? 511 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 512 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 3: I mean as a person of the faith, I plead 513 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 3: the blood of Jesus over me and my family because 514 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 3: it's real. When I was mayor, I had a lot 515 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 3: of credible threats, including a credible kidnapping threat. I remember 516 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 3: going for a walk one day and a man pulling 517 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 3: up on me saying, Oh, I didn't think it was 518 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 3: gonna be this easy to find you. Thankfully he didn't 519 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 3: mean me harm, but he did find me out walking 520 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 3: by myself. So I'm constantly. 521 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: Wow I mean I understand you, you know, enjoy your freedom, 522 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: you got faith in God, but why would you. 523 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: Be walking by yourself? You still got to protect yourself. 524 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 3: Probably not not the smartest thing to do, but you know, 525 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 3: I left out my door. I went for a walk, 526 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 3: and I didn't think, you know, this man was gonna 527 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 3: drive over from De Camp County and look for me 528 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 3: that day. Now it was it smart, no, but I 529 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 3: mean that was I wanted to walk by myself that day. 530 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 3: And so back in this season, I am mindful of it. 531 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 3: I'm I'm cognizant of it. Anytime I'm speaking before a group, 532 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: I find I like I'm looking around, paying attention to 533 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 3: who's moving, who's you know, where's the exit? You know, 534 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 3: layering on security. I mean, it's just it's it's the 535 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 3: nature of the times that we're living, man, and it's, uh, 536 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 3: it is unsettling, but it's our reality. 537 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: Do you think that there's an attack on black mars. 538 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 3: I think there's an attack on black leadership across the board. 539 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 3: I think the attack on black mayors is like, that's 540 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 3: a generational you know, even Ambassador Young was called before 541 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 3: a grand jewelry, you know, so it's yeah, I mean, 542 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 3: I think that's real. 543 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: Why do like, why is it why black? 544 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: Why does black mayor leadership get targeted that in that way? 545 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, so I'll give Atlanta as an example. 546 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 3: The mayor of Atlanta is the CEO of the city. 547 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 3: It's a strong mayor form of government, with over a 548 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 3: billion dollar budget between the airport, the warder department, and 549 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 3: the city's general fund budget actually probably closer to billion dollars. 550 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 3: That's a lot of money and a lot of contracts 551 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: that you're signing. So even in Georgia and in Atlanta, 552 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 3: the guy who's the front runner on the Republican side 553 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 3: for governor put forth legislation to take the airport from 554 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 3: the City of Atlanta, to take it, to take it 555 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: over because the city runs the airport, because their contracts there. 556 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 3: Some would say it had a large part to do 557 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 3: within helping to build a black middle class in Atlanta. 558 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: So anytime you have money involved and you have a 559 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 3: singular black leader who can sign those contracts, who cannot 560 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 3: sign those contracts, it's going to get attention, it's going 561 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: to get scrutiny, and it's gonna make you susceptible to investigation. 562 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: It's not fair, but that was happening when Maynard Jackson 563 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 3: was the mayor of Atlanta. It happened to Ambassador Young, 564 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 3: I mean it, it happens. 565 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 4: So basically saying that's where the powers I'm always talking 566 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 4: about local and state. Local and state, that's where the 567 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 4: power is. That's where things get done the most, the 568 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 4: quick as the fastest. And you're saying that the local level, 569 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 4: the mayor's is targeted because of the power that they have. 570 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 4: Talk about a little bit about the governor, because we 571 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 4: love the sex you know how sexity is. Talk about 572 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 4: Congress and president, all of that, but talk about the 573 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 4: power that a governor has that can literally change somebody's 574 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 4: life overnight, opposed to being in Congress where you have 575 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 4: to argue with hundreds of people. 576 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 3: So when federal money, for example, comes into a state, 577 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 3: it often flows right through the state government through the 578 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 3: governor's office. Governor can determine budgets. The governor can determine 579 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 3: how much we're allocating toward this community as opposed to 580 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 3: that community. The governor of Georgia is one of the 581 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 3: most powerful governors in the nation because they have the 582 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 3: power of a line item veto. So when legislation comes 583 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 3: to the governor. He can scratch out a line and 584 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 3: change it just with the or she will be able 585 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 3: to change it just with the stroke of a pen. 586 00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 3: So it matters. You are allocating budget, you are setting priorities, 587 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 3: you are appointing people to boards, whether it's the border 588 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 3: Regions which oversees higher education than the state, to the 589 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 3: Port of Savannah that deals with export and import that's 590 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 3: coming in and out of the state, to infrastructure projects, 591 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: to public safety. All of that flows from the governor's office. 592 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: What do you think about People are in Atlanta are 593 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: very critical of Copcity. 594 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: How would you address that? 595 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 3: My concern about that is that when you are not 596 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: investing in public safety, that you are getting out what 597 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 3: you are putting in. So with the police training facility, 598 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 3: there were two places that firefighters who were being trained 599 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 3: police were being trained. The place that firefighters were being 600 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 3: trained ended up being condemned because of mold of bad 601 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 3: mone infestation. The place where police were being trained was 602 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 3: like a fifty year old school building. The facilities were 603 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 3: just they were awful, and I believe the prior police 604 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 3: training place was condemned as well. They were awful. I 605 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 3: mean the reality is that they have to be trained somewhere, 606 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 3: and we needed a new facility in Atlanta to train 607 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 3: our police and firefighters, and it was costing us a 608 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 3: lot of money because we didn't have a state of 609 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 3: the art facility. And again going into the morale and 610 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 3: whatever your thoughts are again on public safety. When you 611 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 3: have police officers, when you have firefighters, when you have 612 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 3: people ems, paramedics, they have to be trained somewhere. They 613 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 3: don't just show up and get put out on the street. 614 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 3: And we needed a new facility in Atlanta to do that. 615 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 4: One of the things I give you credit on I 616 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 4: still like to call you mayor Lands Bottoms of your Mindy, 617 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 4: it's through your title you building in non traditional, non 618 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 4: traditional coalitions. A lot of times people just tap into 619 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 4: hip hop and tap in who they think is cool 620 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 4: for the moment. You've done an excellent job of building relationships, 621 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 4: you know, with Tip and Killer Mike and really understanding 622 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 4: how entertainment and hip hop is a part of Atlanta 623 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 4: culture culture. 624 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 3: How do you. 625 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 4: Plan on still, you know, building those non traditional coalitions 626 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 4: and how they can benefit you through the State of 627 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 4: Georgia Because a lot of times, like you said, people 628 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 4: just do the hot sauce in my bag, you know, 629 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 4: to say, you know, I'm cool for the moment. You've 630 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 4: really built some authentic relationships. How were you able to 631 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 4: do that and how do you see that benefiting you 632 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 4: in your race? 633 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 3: Because you got to hear from everybody. And I love Tip, 634 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 3: I love Carolling Mike. Those are my brothers, genuinely, and 635 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 3: I know they bring a voice and a persona that 636 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna always hear in a board room. But 637 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 3: by the same token, I have to build relationships or 638 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 3: have had to build relationships with CEOs. Where there's a 639 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 3: CEO of Delta Airlines ups or home depot, you have 640 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 3: to build those relationships too. And a bastardor young used 641 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:22,760 Speaker 3: to call it the Atlanta Way. This where government, philanthropic groups, 642 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 3: civic community come together, business community to be able to 643 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 3: get things done. And we've been to beneficiary beneficiaries of that. 644 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 3: So when Killer Mike and Tip served on my transition committee, 645 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 3: I'll never forget we were sitting in the Metro Chamber 646 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 3: of Commerce and you got all these Orchard five hundred CEOs, 647 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 3: and Tip and Killer Mike like watching these CEOs, smitten 648 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 3: that they were in the room like it was priceless. 649 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 3: And in that room, Tip and Killer Mike met a 650 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 3: man named Noel Khalil who was also on the transition committee. 651 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 3: He's since passed. He was a wonderful man, affordable housing 652 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 3: builder Columbia Residential. From that transition committee, they built a 653 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 3: partnership that's now allowed them to put affordable housing on 654 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 3: the West side of Atlanta. It came out of that room. 655 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 3: So that's a responsibility that I felt I had as 656 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 3: a mayor, not just to hear from them, but also 657 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 3: to make sure they were president rooms. 658 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 4: Put him in position, not just entertaining, that's in position. 659 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 3: That's it I mean, and it's their influence is huge. 660 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 3: But again also they're bringing up perspective. You know, Killer 661 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 3: Mike very proudly said, like he's an independent, he he 662 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 3: likes Brian Kim. There are things that Killer Mike believes 663 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 3: in that some people may see as as extreme right wing. 664 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 3: You know, I see it just as him being an 665 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 3: independent black man making decisions based on what his value 666 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 3: set is, and. 667 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 1: Who loves Atlanta and who loves to Georgia and who 668 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: was going to talk to office and build whoever's in 669 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: office to do what's best for that state. 670 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 3: Yes, and it's not person base. It's I mean it's 671 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 3: it's not politically based. 672 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 4: It's people based off the governor about the programs that 673 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 4: he's doing for trade. I don't know if he likes 674 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 4: him personally or not, but I know he likes the programs. 675 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 4: You know that he's been able to have that relationship 676 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 4: with to talk about that's right. 677 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 3: And again this coalition building. When I was mayor, we 678 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 3: closed this transaction. If you've ever been to Atlanta outside 679 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 3: the Mercedes Bend Stadium, it was called the gulch largest 680 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 3: real estate transaction in the history of the city. Out 681 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 3: of that, we put money towards vocational training. Because Delta 682 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 3: Airlines said, I got ten thousand mechanics, I need train 683 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 3: Home Depot said I need I need some plumbers. True 684 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 3: ist said, I need colders. We put money into this 685 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 3: program to help train people to fill these great jobs. 686 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 3: We were able to create an Affordable Housing trust fund 687 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 3: that's city wide now, so if you got some rising 688 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 3: property taxes, you can go tap into this trust fund 689 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 3: to help pay your property taxes. A child savings account. 690 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 3: All of our public school kindergarteners now have this child 691 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 3: savings account that will follow them through high school. I 692 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 3: couldn't do that just as the leader, just from our 693 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 3: budget and the city. It took all of us being 694 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 3: at the table being able to get it done. And 695 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 3: what a Tip and kill a Mike are very astute 696 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 3: with is understanding the needs of our community. Everybody's not 697 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,720 Speaker 3: going to college. Everybody doesn't want to go to college. 698 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 3: Everybody shouldn't go to college, but they still need to 699 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 3: be able to get some training so that when the 700 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 3: unions are saying you can come through our program, we'll 701 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 3: pay you to train forty two dollars an hour and 702 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 3: then you'll have a six figure job coming out. You know, 703 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 3: we have to have people advocating for that. 704 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. 705 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 1: I got a couple of questions, because I know you 706 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: got to go and keeping on schedule. When you look back, 707 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: what do you feel was your most misunderstood move as 708 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: mayor and what would you want people to know about 709 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: the thinking behind it? 710 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 3: Probably my choosing not to run a second term. Yeah, 711 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 3: that was it, because it didn't make sense to people 712 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 3: because nobody had ever done it. And my poll numbers 713 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 3: were at sixty eight percent, which was exceedingly high for 714 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 3: any urban mayor, so I knew it was very likely 715 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 3: that I would win if I ran again, And I 716 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 3: made the decision not to run, and people thought it 717 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 3: was from a position of weakness, but it was like 718 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,720 Speaker 3: one of the most powerful things I've ever done at yourself. 719 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 3: From that, what I learned about myself is that sometimes 720 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 3: you things that you do just won't make sense to 721 00:40:55,360 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 3: anybody else, and you gotta be okay with that. Also 722 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 3: that in the absence of your narrative, somebody's gonna fill 723 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 3: that void with something. And I tried as best I 724 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 3: could to articulate it to people. Quite frankly, a lot 725 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 3: of it I had to unpack in therapy and why 726 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 3: I chose it, why I chose to make that decision. 727 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 3: But what I do know is had I not made 728 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 3: it based on where I was personally in my family 729 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 3: personally in that season, I wouldn't be ready to step 730 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 3: back in the ring in this season. 731 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: Wow, if you became governor, what's the one change you'd 732 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: want people to remember you for, not not just in 733 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: Georgia but nationwide. 734 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 3: The biggest scene right now, the affordability piece is huge. 735 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 3: That's an overarching theme but Medicaid expansion is huge in 736 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 3: our state. We got people dying because they can't get 737 00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 3: to a hospital, and I think if we can span 738 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 3: Medicaid immediately, it will change the trajectory of a lot 739 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 3: of communities in our state. And at the end of 740 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 3: the day, I want people to know that I was there, 741 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 3: that their lives were better, their communities were better because 742 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 3: I was there to serve. 743 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Miss Keisha lands Bottoms. Tell them where to support 744 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: your campaign. 745 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 3: Keisha for Governor dot com. Please go online, follow me, 746 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 3: sign up the volunteer and people say, what can I 747 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 3: do if I'm not in Georgia. Everybody has a cousin 748 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 3: or a friend somewhere in Georgia. Everybody has the checkbook. 749 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 3: We need the resources and we we need the energy 750 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:48,240 Speaker 3: and Keisha bottle of Keisha for Governor k E I 751 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 3: s h a Keisha for Governor dot com. 752 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 2: Thank you, Miss Bottoms. I appreciate you for stopping by it. 753 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 2: I'll be a stranger, thank you. All right, it's the 754 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 2: breakfast Club. 755 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: Every day, answer the Breakfast Club. 756 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 2: You're finishing, y'all. Dump