WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Up Against The Walls 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.080 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:14.120 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is Mick 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:18.319 Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:23.599 official Dallas Cowboys have now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:42.000 and Nicky Spagnola Dallas Cowboys, the go team of the 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:47.040 senior boat. What does that mean? I remember that. I'm like, Wow, 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:50.640 they got an all inclusive. They're giving her advice in love. 0:00:51.520 --> 0:01:01.440 They most of the financial finaceding record. Yeah, a throwback 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:03.880 to the good old days when the Cowboys on a 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.760 fairly regular basis, we're scoring fifty six and fifty nine 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:12.280 points a game. And here we are, and salute to 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:17.959 Chris Beam. But remembering the stampede. After a Cowboys fifty 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:23.200 six to fourteen stampede over the Washington football team, I 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:27.560 was got fifty six fifty six? Had that? Let me 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:29.120 look at the pick to click. Who I think I 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:34.440 had it last week? Yeah? Fifty two last week I 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:39.040 almost had. I think I almost had half of that. Yeah, 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.800 fifty two seven and Dig's gonna get two picks. Bill, 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:43.840 that's what you had. I was predicting that was a 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:48.120 week in advance. You were off seven days. Mine was 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.320 twenty seven thirteen. I think it was so menial. I 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:55.760 don't even think. Oh I did here twenty five to ten. No, 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:57.880 it was twenty four to ten or something like that. 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.240 Ye twenty seven ten twenty said thank you, thank you 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.680 and picked the clicks I said, I said, dis yeah, 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:06.880 yeah I did. I said, Dicks, you know what, we 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.519 didn't pick this week, did we because we didn't have 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:13.399 a show on Friday, But we did. You did well? 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:18.240 Picked and I did on my CBS eleven Cowboys Game 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.440 Day show. And guess whom I picked the click was 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.639 Diggs Man. I one, okay, I didn't think it. I 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:26.440 didn't predict it's gonna be the first play of the game. 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.359 I say, one, yeah, yeah, I just wanted it. And 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.239 the reason I said Diggs, I wanted to give a 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:35.519 shout out to my buddy ever since on CBS eleven. 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.359 So I did. So. I got a shout out this 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:43.040 weekend on my gut feeling for the Dallas Cowboys dot com. 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:47.560 I had twenty seven thirteen, and I said that Diggs 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.799 will get the interception to tie ever since. But we 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.880 all agreed on that it was pretty easy prediction. Well 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:58.400 it was, and I expect it to come so soon. God, 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.079 that was so crazy they had. I was fortunate enough 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.880 to be the alumni legends alumni whatever they call it. 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:08.280 And let's go with a legend legend. Yeah, cowboy community legend. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:12.160 I think it's legends. Yes, let's give it this proper dude. 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:16.000 And I took my daughter and Michael Down's daughter, Carolyn 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.560 came with her. So they were in the background and 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.079 you know, we're talking trash. I'm sitting you know, So 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.400 what sweet were you in? I was in the They 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:28.280 had the uh uh Ring of honor. Oh, aged five 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:30.720 eighty one. Okay, that's what it was. So you're in 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:37.320 the ring of honor. See, I was only in the suite. 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.160 They let me business it once in a while, Bill, 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.040 just to tease me and piss me off. So no, 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.960 but we were everyone was in there. Uh we end 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.480 up changing sweets. But no, we had a few guys 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:51.640 in there, and uh it was Chad. Chad was there. 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:57.560 Uh and and uh Dixon Netbooks was in there, and 0:03:57.800 --> 0:03:59.240 you know, we had a lot of fun. We were 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.400 talking trash and so as they introduced me, I was 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.280 saying something silly and then I sat down. We were 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.600 all still laughing. We were all still laughing. And the 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.000 next thing, you know, I look up and he's trying 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.080 digs and you could just imagine how silly that game 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.520 plan was. So I imagine, how is gonna come in. 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.480 We're gonna show you, guys know, we're coming right at 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:25.960 your Yeah, We're gonna show you what's up. And then 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.880 oh he did was sparked us. From then on. After 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:34.440 that interception, we forgot about the lack of daisical first uh, 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:38.880 first drive and after that we're going I think Dak said, 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.960 why would you do that? Why would you? I mean, 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.719 I mean tell me, so, were you settled down before 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:50.200 the play started? We had we know, we had sat down. 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.520 I barely saw the play as I sat down. I'm 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:56.120 talking trash. Everybody around it. We're laughing fun and everybody 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.480 saw blah blah. My daughter, you know, she's on social media, 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:01.840 so she's telling me off. And before we could look up, 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.320 that was it. Because they I'm pretty sure they introduced 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:08.720 me right before. Y Yeah. And so I was going 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:10.920 to ask you, what were your thoughts when you saw 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:12.760 the ball in the air well when he when he 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.560 called it, I remember standing up like that is you 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:17.039 know what I mean. I have my hands. I mean 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:18.680 I have my fist up like I was mine, like 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.600 I got the interception. So well, everybody's going crazy in there, 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.680 and the first thing we see is his son, right, 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.880 and that was hilarious. We all sat down and just 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:33.960 started cracking up because the sun was he was he 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:35.880 was doing all his moves. I don't know one of 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.239 the moves those works, but that's what we immediately started 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:42.080 sitting down and and we laughed at him and pointing 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.000 at him. And I think by the time they got 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.440 the camera and me, we had settled down already, right. Yeah, 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.600 and then you're looking at your cell phone. Yeah, I'm 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.560 looking very you know. That was not it when it 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.240 first happened. I knew it was gonna happen. When I 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:55.960 saw the ball in the air, I was already up 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.640 with my hands in the air. I knew that was 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:00.520 gonna be it. And you're gonna tell that didn't look 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:02.600 like Everson Walls in the same it did. Come on, man, 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.800 that's the same way I that's the same way I 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:13.400 surpassed mel renfro same side of the field against the 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:17.120 Philadelphia Eagles, same route, but at that time I had 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.960 surpassed him. So we're still waiting on on on the 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.480 extent to do that, and he's got two more games. 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:29.000 So that was for your eleventh. It was against the Philadelphia, 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:33.080 same route, and it was game fifteen. On the game fifteen, 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.280 Mayl got his, but Mayl got his, remember in fourteen 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.839 fourteen season. Yeah, so let's remember that. And on Twitter, 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:45.200 he finally rose up Dick night Train Lane's son. Really 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.800 he sent out a tweet and like, yes, they finally Uh, 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.320 Chris Collins would have called his dad's name, which was 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.120 extremely cool because he said, there it is. So he's 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.360 got three and a half more than it's fourteen and 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:02.560 a half. Night Train Night Train had fourteen games, Uh, 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.120 fourteen half twelve you get a half. Know what he's 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:10.200 talking about. Yeah, I was thinking I'm going forward that 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.880 I was. I was trying to move forward Bill. I 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:19.120 believe Bill doesn't miss any keep trying to keep my train. Thought, 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.440 so his was fourteen, I believe it is fourteen. It 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:27.440 was something like fourteen, fourteen and a half something, and 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:31.480 his was probably in his was probably in twelve half games, 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.440 twelve games. That's what I thought. I thought Dix was 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:38.920 in twelve games, fourteen interceptions in twelve games. That's what 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.400 I thought you mean? Night Train night Dick nightrainin right, Yeah, 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:45.040 all right, what the thing you said on fourteen and 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:50.360 fourteen games? Okay, so night train fourteen in twelve games, yes, um, 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:56.200 mel Renfeld ten in fourteen games. Okay. I got my 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:01.360 my eleven in the fifteenth game, and so did Dicks. 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:05.360 And then when did you get your thirteen? That was 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:07.520 a couple of weeks later. A couple of weeks later. 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:09.920 That's the other thing. It wasn't at home. Okay, that 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.800 was the postseason, the postseason ever seen. Got two more 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:18.760 picks in that nineteen and the recovery two just well, 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:22.440 the fumber recovering. Give me the many the first time 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.520 I've had three turnovers in the game. How many? How 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.640 many playoff games did you have to play that year too? 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:32.640 Just two? Yeah, the one and then we had the one. Yeah, 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.400 that's we had the opportunity to play. We wanted three, yeah, 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:37.960 but we ended up with just two, and you had 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.079 the two in the second play It was in the 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.840 second playoff game, which was Dennis time. I got off 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.680 in the in the Tampa Bay game, if I'm not mistaken. 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.040 The Dinnis time, I had to pick six, and he 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.079 took us to the house with with picks in the 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.400 in the game against Doug Williams and Tampa Bay Bucks, 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.319 and then the next game with San Francisco. So the 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:02.240 Cowboys now have a card to Marcus Lawrence. Six games left, 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:06.480 yes he does, but those those won't count towards the 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.560 regular season. Why does he think that the Cowboys aren't 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.880 going to get the first round by they? He just 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.880 figured there was four playoff games coming. Let him keep 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.959 thinking that. Yeah, you know he's he's at rest. No, No, 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.040 I got no quarrel with with four playoff games, except 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.520 how about three? Yeah, I would like, let's go with 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:28.839 three plays, meaning the first round by now Wade Wade 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.760 would Phillips would count that as a w that first 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:37.560 round by so who may I ask? Who's beating green Bay? 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:43.160 Minnesota's this Sunday night, right, and then Detroit is on fire? Yeah? 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.640 All right, you know what, guys, I want to go 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.760 to Green Bay. I'm sorry, that's just the ball player 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:52.120 in me, and I know that the older people in 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:56.280 the organization are still remember that crap. Not just the 0:09:56.400 --> 0:10:01.160 one here in um in Cowboys Stadium. But the catch 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:04.480 game with this, I want to go back there, don't 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.679 you think, Mike McCarthy I want to go I want 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.000 I know Mike wants to go back there. I don't think. 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.439 I think he would take much better pride. And I 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:13.920 know it would be a tougher route to take, but 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.000 I think he would take much more pride in beating 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.880 them in Green Bay. The just showing up to play 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:23.880 in the game after they dispatched him. The really old 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.960 people in the organization though, remember another trip to Green 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.800 Bay when it would rather cold? Yeah, that's way whatever. 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:35.240 I think I might be on the one left. Who's 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:38.360 who's who's there? Who's who's here? I mean players? Yes, 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.439 but the organization wise, you know, somebody said, do you 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.240 want to play Green Bay? I said, I'll take to 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:45.760 play the team that played the second half their last 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:50.160 game that Cleveland through what four interceptions and anim wanting 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:55.920 by Was it too a highly questionable non pass call? Yeah, 0:10:56.280 --> 0:11:01.200 it's not questionable at all. That was robbery. Was just homestyle. 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:05.000 So just grabbed his jersey and yanked them and you 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:09.640 saw the official did the lambo leap. What dude, what 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:14.160 he did? There. There was a doctored uh picture that 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.760 made the realms on Twitter of a of an official 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.320 doing the Lambo leap. They have a term out there 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:24.439 that says the internet is okay, so you know we 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.160 we've got this saying that you know, the officials are blind. 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.880 Now I found out they're deaf too, deaf blind death 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:36.439 because they announced the guy was eligible eligible receiver and 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.360 he throws his flag for a legal man down field. 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:44.080 That's crazy. Are you paying attention? That's crazy? Man. But anyway, 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:49.079 it turned out pretty pretty well, and um Diggs was 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:53.679 rather humble after the game too. Yeah, unlike his predecessor 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:58.440 with eleven years ago. I was angry. I was angry. 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.200 He's he's he's got it good. And you can tell 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:07.000 the difference though and how free agents are treated versus high, 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.559 high round draft picks. So did you realize the significance 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.839 of what you were only a rookie? I was just 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.440 trying to survive, right, Yeah, I was just trying to survive. Now. 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.199 I knew the numbers were good because I had just 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.559 gotten eleven, you know, a Grambling my senior year, so 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.280 I know what numbers you had eleven and Grambling too. 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:25.800 My senior year. Senior year, I had eleven. I led 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:29.600 the nation, So regular season twenty two picks in two years. Yeah, 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:35.000 you don't even want to go preseason, preseason, and that's 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.520 just trying me out. Like this guy. Throw him out 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.520 there and think about it. He wouldn't have made the 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.319 team if he didn't get those. Those were the most 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.959 season Those are the most important picks of his career. 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.320 You ain't lying. Didn't have to lick up those preseasons stands. 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.360 But now that was when you know numbers. You know, 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.480 I knew the numbers were good. And then they started 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:54.880 talking about mel Rentfall. They start talking about mel Rentfall. 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:58.000 You know, we kind of just throw them aside. Now 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.960 that was you know, that's what I keep giving giving 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.679 them love. That was amazing that, you know, Smell he 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.400 was the dion of DBS at the time he was. 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:10.360 I talked about his Olympic qualifying long jump record. I 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.320 don't know what he ran. You know, we just got 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:17.200 spoiled with Melvin Frol. We never thought we never had 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.199 problems in our secondary until he and her Badley and 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:23.199 and and Cornell Green left And here they come with 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:28.000 Aeron Mitchell and Aaron Kyle and and and uh Cliff, 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.000 Charlie had just messed his leg up. He wasn't in 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:35.360 the in the in the secondary. They needed somebody. They 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.839 just went out there with a fishhook and that I 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.360 just started up rounding up defensive backs and they brought 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.200 us in. They had twenty five of us. So yeah, 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.840 I knew what the journey was. The journey was was crazy. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.959 It was not just unlikely for me. I'm watching Mike 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:54.400 Downs and myself when with roommates on the road, and 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.360 we talked about this stuff, and Mike was so humble, 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:59.400 and I'm trying to give Mike more love than he's 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.679 giving them el because I told him just the other night, Mike, 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:06.320 what we did that ain't normal. Mike came in got 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.800 seven picks. I came in, got eleven. We're both undrafted 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.360 south Old Cliff, you find somebody two other guys that 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.599 came in and did that for an organization that was 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:20.560 at the bottom of the barrel when it came to 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.200 defensive backs. And I had to tell Mike that the 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.800 other night because everyone glosses over what he did. And 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:30.080 I let him know, Bro, don't ever let anybody gloss 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.320 over what you and I did. No one has done 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.920 it since I can't remember anyone doing it before. They 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.040 got movies about free agents and all the kind of crap. 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:40.920 I told him a long time ago, Mike, they need 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:42.800 to be doing a movie on us. They got the 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.840 don Philadelphia Eagles guy. Remember that. What's that movie about 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.800 the Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver a special teams player? I 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.640 think it was Mark Wahlberg or something player. Yeah, yeah, 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:54.000 he's a great guy. I'm sure he's a great guy. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.320 But this story is no more amazing than what Mike 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:59.720 Downs and myself did, and two Dallas kids too. That 0:14:59.880 --> 0:15:03.880 was kid undrafted, undrafted. I came from Grambling, which I 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:08.480 thought was was pretty cool. Mike came from Rice. Mike 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:14.000 Sprangers call him minute Rice, Come on, man, a minute Rice. 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:15.760 That's what he said. They were. They were good for 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.840 one minute in the game, and that's very accurate. They 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.120 got blown out every game. So for him to come 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:26.880 from that culture and immediately affect the Cowboys in a 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.800 different way, to me, that just it's over. It's we 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:35.600 never talked about it because we weren't first rounders, you know, 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:40.960 we weren't those guys. And I'm sorry, but the even 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.640 before Thrumus Steves. And I know I'm ranting him, even 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.880 before Thermis Steves. I think what we did should have 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:51.920 been lauded way before this year period. But you have 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.960 those numbers, Jeff Thurman and Steves numbers takeaways from that 0:15:56.120 --> 0:16:01.040 era I did. Um the cow is right. Cowboys right 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:05.680 now are at thirty three takeaways eighty five including fumbles. 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.440 It includes fumble recoveries. So eighty five they had forty 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:14.680 eight takeaways, thirty three picks in fifteen fumble recoveries. That again, 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:18.800 eighty five they had one forty eight takeaways. That's ridiculous. 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.960 I write this down. I don't even know this. Thirty 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:28.360 three and fifteen thirty three picks in fifteen fumble recovery. Right, 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:31.680 And but how about this, This is the number that's 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:36.680 gonna shock you. They had sixty two sacks in eighty five. 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:41.640 How many we have now, oh it's in the twenties. Problem. 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:47.680 What is Oh my god? How many did they have? 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:53.000 Five have the ball? Did our offense even have the ball? Give? 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:54.640 We gave it to him. But when they do give 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.720 it right back, we know they were amazing offense at 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:02.920 that time. So sacks where they just give me a 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:06.400 second here, Oh here, it's down here. So they had 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.639 thirty two going into the game. So the thirty seven right, 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.720 thirty seven sets with two games to go. And so 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:17.800 but in sixteen games in nineteen eighty five, forty eight takeaways, 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:22.120 thirty three interceptions, in fifteen fumble recoveries. And right now, 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:26.360 this team in fifteen games is at thirty three takeaways, 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:30.520 twenty five interceptions, right, and eight eight fumble recover And 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:37.960 in nineteen eighty one the Magic they had fifty three takeaways, 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:45.040 thirty seven picks, and sixteen fumble recoveries. You know, fifty three. 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.440 And I went back and looked up the going through 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.840 last week. Now it's still the same this week with 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.200 the thirty three takeaways, I believe that's the most for 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:59.200 a Cowboys team since nineteen eighty six. And so I 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.320 just let you know how they had or through maybe 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:06.160 it was thirty one through fourteen games was the most 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:08.359 they had. There was one day threw out and it 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.960 said the most since eighty seven. I'm gone. Now, that's 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:15.320 got to have an asterisk in there, because seven didn't carry. 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:18.040 I didn't count the eighty seven because three of the 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.600 games were not games yeah, I didn't count the eighty seven. 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:25.320 So then you it begs the question, you know, why 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.560 are we bringing this up now? This should have been 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:30.399 brought up long ago. Well, that's because it was so 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:34.040 far out there. They couldn't get twenty takeaways in a season. 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:38.040 I mean, look at I bet twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:41.440 when they had good teams, I bet they didn't have 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.720 double digits interception. Well, here here's my point. Here's my point. 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.320 When you have a group, a defensive group that's doing that, 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.639 it's something that should be talked about, and it's something 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.480 that should be that you should try and copy every year. 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:58.320 Don't go away from it. Don't act like it didn't happen, 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:02.560 because you gotta pay people in contract negotiations and remember 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.520 their stats. These are things that need to be remembered 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:09.800 as an organization. We talk about ray Lewis with Baltimore, 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:12.800 we talk about the Fearsome foursome with with these guys, 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:16.080 we got doomsday defense in the seventies. I mean, come on, 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:19.240 you can you tell me you couldn't give these guys love. 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:22.440 All these these numbers right here that are now coming back, 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:27.440 Why why are they so amazing? Because no one knew, well, 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:30.679 no one knew, no one cared. Here's why. From twenty 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:35.840 fifteen through twenty twenty. So the last previous six years, 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:40.880 they never had more than ten picks. Ten. Last year, 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.680 the team the team I have tea, I have teased 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:48.520 for a few years that I got more pick team. 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.480 He's got more picks right now than the entire team 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:56.600 had not twenty fifteen, eight than nine, than ten, than 0:19:56.760 --> 0:20:00.560 nine than seven ten. I've been I've been to myself. 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:02.679 I've been saying to myself, I said, do that. They 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.199 can't even cast me in my strike here. Sometimes, I mean, 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:09.360 come on, it's ridiculous, man, But I just I think 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.280 I did. This is just my time to just say 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:16.040 where y'all been and giving Dennis Thurman love, you know, 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:19.480 giving Michael Down's love, Everson Wall's love. So how about 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.960 that the strike here? Yeah too? The team had fifteen 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:29.200 in nine games. Right, it's crazy, all right, we can't. 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:30.800 We need to take a break. 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Okay, 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:06.359 the Cowboys in the span of fifteen days outscored the 0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:09.560 Washington football team in the first quarter alone thirty nine 0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:12.760 to nothing. Very good. One eight. They were up eighteen 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:16.520 to nothing two weeks ago, and twenty one to nothing 0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:19.480 after one quarter this week. What about at halftime it 0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:21.760 was twenty four to nothing in forty two to seven, 0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:25.800 So that's sixty six to seven most points they've scored 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:30.480 in the first half forty two ever, ever, ever since 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:33.400 my daddy said, this is what you call a football 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:41.440 may daddy, And I know that, Jimmy, I remember, yes, 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:45.280 I can see him now, and I know two of 0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:51.800 the touchdowns came off a defensive return, a special teams return, 0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:55.560 or actually just guess in the recovery because it was 0:23:55.640 --> 0:24:03.600 already in the end zone. But the first team offense 0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:07.960 hardly played the fourth quarter, if at all. Cooper Rush 0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:11.040