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Speaker 1: Thank you, my beloved. Thirty four What a bizarre age

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Speaker 2: Giving?

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Speaker 2: By sure, I mean, watch Adele come out with her

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Speaker 1: Yeah, then we'll know how to feel A don'ta to

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Speaker 1: feel like remember Billie Eilish. There's so many incredible singers

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Speaker 2: I I am just celebrating you. I celebrate you every day.

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Speaker 2: I feel that from your sister, and I celebrate you

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Speaker 2: as well. It is my number one joy in life

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Speaker 2: watching you thrive, shine and conquer and more and more thrive,

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Speaker 2: Not in the year twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not primary day in New York.

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Speaker 1: I'm voting local, making that change, Thank you. Do you

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Speaker 2: Which we blessed today in the Tortured Poets Department. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Girl, you're just too kind, you're the leading man. No, girl,

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Speaker 2: No, No, I wouldn't. I would never broke you into

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. There is hell in her soul. Okay, sorry, keep.

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Speaker 1: she'll say to Karen Hugre like, so I heard you

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Speaker 2: Listen, I would not be able to do that job.

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Speaker 1: They should win the Military Award for Excellence, Military Award

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Speaker 1: for Excellence, and TV.

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Speaker 2: New category to draw the Culture Wards Military Award for

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Speaker 2: in TV. Now, stay tuned, we have some more information

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Speaker 2: about the Culture Awards this year. Yes, we do very excited.

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Speaker 1: We do. Let's just say, rain, rain, go away, come

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Speaker 1: again another day.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say we won't have to worry about a

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Speaker 2: thunderstorm morning in New Jersey that would potentially shut down

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Speaker 2: our show.

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Speaker 1: Did we spill the tea about that at the time.

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Speaker 1: I think we did.

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Speaker 2: I think we did. Yeah, we almost didn't do Culture

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Speaker 2: Awards last year because of a thunderstorm in New Jersey,

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Speaker 2: which is not in Manhattan. But also I guess it's

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Speaker 2: close enough. People were doing their jobs, people were keeping

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Speaker 2: people safe. We're not begrudging them with that.

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Speaker 1: No, it was it was all above board in terms

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Speaker 1: of them being like, hey, we have to go inside

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Speaker 1: because if lightning strikes the stage, like y'all are fried

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Speaker 1: to a damn crisp, you're gonna be two.

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Speaker 2: Gay piles of dust, period.

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Speaker 1: Gay piles of dust.

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Speaker 2: Gay piles of dust title.

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Speaker 1: But what was funny was we were in the middle

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Speaker 1: of rehearsing Eighth World Wonder like the Seven Days and

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Speaker 1: seven nights. Then they're like the inside you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: hurt by lightning, and we're like, oh my god, seriously,

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Speaker 1: day like the spirits of Kimberly lock like rumbling in.

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Speaker 2: The sky is like, whoa Kimberly.

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Speaker 1: We think.

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Speaker 2: I think Kimberly saved us that day.

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Speaker 1: She did? She did. I think the gods knew that

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Speaker 1: Eighth World Wonder needed its renaissance period.

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Speaker 2: But then what do you make of the Karen and

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Speaker 2: Wendy and Candice on Kelly thing? Does that mean they're

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Speaker 2: gonna bring I think Gizelle and Robin are probably yelling

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Speaker 2: at someone now at their teams to get them home.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say the tea that I heard, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is the tea that I heard. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: say how I heard it. Okay, I heard there was

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Speaker 1: no resolution at the reunion and there needed to be

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Speaker 1: That's what I heard. I heard that there is no

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Speaker 1: forward movement for the factions that needed to come together,

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Speaker 1: and therefore something has to happen. That's that's the tea

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Speaker 1: that I heard.

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Speaker 2: Right, and so in that when I hear that, I go, well,

484
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Speaker 2: then someone is misunderstanding what it means to be on

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Speaker 2: a show, on the show, on a conflict driven show

486
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Speaker 2: like The Housewives, where you do have to sort of

487
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Speaker 2: turn those over.

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Speaker 1: You cannot stay in it too long or it just

489
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Speaker 1: got too fucking ugly, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Like because it was ugly to begin with, because these

491
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Speaker 2: are we're dealing with ugly people. On one side.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say, even if I'm on a television show,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I go out of my way

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Speaker 1: to forgive someone who's so recklessly And this is both

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Speaker 1: on the part of Wendy and Candice because they both

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Speaker 1: face this by Giselle and co. But anyone who so

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Speaker 1: recklessly tried to not just like come for but like

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Speaker 1: irrevocably damage my husband or mother in the case of

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Speaker 1: like Wendy, like, I don't know that I just for

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Speaker 1: a show forgive them, whereas I don't think when you

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Speaker 1: flip it around to the other side of the things

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Speaker 1: that have been said about like Giselle and Robin like

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Speaker 1: are as imaging and bad. But what Giselle is doing

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Speaker 1: now is she's trying to play it like she's been

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Speaker 1: wronged in an equal way and that's incorrect.

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Speaker 2: No fucking way. Oh god, I really really hate that woman.

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Speaker 2: I don't apply it to a lot of people. I

508
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Speaker 2: don't hate people that I come into conflict with.

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Speaker 1: M M. You just couldn't be bothered.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't be bothered, and I honestly do try to

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Speaker 2: like make I do what every housewives should do, which

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Speaker 2: is to try to find resolution. Period.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know. I mean while we're I guess

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Speaker 1: we kind of can't really talk. Can we talk about

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Speaker 1: the drama? There's been a lot of drama.

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Speaker 2: Can you I know about the brand new stuff? I honestly,

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Speaker 2: I was asked. I was honestly asked about this yesterday

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Speaker 2: in press about the least Stuff, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: this is the God's honest truth. I was like, I

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Speaker 2: did not read the post. I don't exactly know what's

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Speaker 2: going on with the Least Stuff to have an opinion

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Speaker 2: on it.

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Speaker 1: There's like a series of lawsuits right now against Bravo

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Speaker 1: and like all these production companies and even Andy himself,

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Speaker 1: basically coming from all different kinds of places. There's like

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Speaker 1: a legal situation with Liam McSweeney. There's a legal situation

527
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Speaker 1: with Brandy Glanville, there's a legal situation with Caroline Manzo.

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Speaker 1: There's now a lawsuit from Rachel Levis against Tom Sandoval

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Speaker 1: and Arian Maddox for revenge porn and like distribution of

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Speaker 1: revenge porn. There's also, obviously, like the Bethany Frankel reality

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Speaker 1: reckoning of it all, there was the dropped lawsuit from

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Speaker 1: Nini Leaks that allege racial discrimination. There's a lot yeah

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Speaker 1: going on. And what I'll say is that any single time,

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Speaker 1: and I'll speak for myself, any single time I have

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Speaker 1: been on Watch What Happens Live involved in anything with

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Speaker 1: any of these companies, like when you go and watch

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Speaker 1: It Happens Live. Like there's obviously alcohol, right, that's like

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Speaker 1: part of it. You are asked every time if you

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Speaker 1: want to drink, if you'd like another drink, you say

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Speaker 1: yes or no. They're not like, oh, it's better if

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Speaker 1: you drink. They never say that. They never make it

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Speaker 1: seem like you have to do anything. We're friends with

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Speaker 1: Andy personally, I have never ever ever been offering anything

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Speaker 1: like drugs, Like it's getting crazy to me. And a

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Speaker 1: lot of hearsay like her alleging that Liam McSweeney alleges

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Speaker 1: that Andy Cohen offers cocaine to housewives and then yeah,

547
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Speaker 1: gives them a better edit if they do it. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, And I will say for myself

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Speaker 2: the Brandy thing, I'm like reading the details and it

551
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Speaker 2: seems like it seems really weird in illegal context. How

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Speaker 2: much that holds water? Yeah, because from what I understand,

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Speaker 2: Brandy is saying that this is sexual harassment that Andy

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Speaker 2: was like jokingly on a FaceTime with her with Kate Kchestain.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, k chesting, what is it like being like I

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Speaker 1: think what they're saying is that I guess Andy and

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Speaker 1: Kate Chastain either facetimed Brandy or send her a message.

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Speaker 1: And Andy said in the message like Kate and I

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Speaker 1: are having sex tonight and we'll be thinking of you.

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Speaker 1: It's something like that, like some sort of like joke

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Speaker 1: that yes, obviously a boss should not make to his employees.

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Speaker 2: Certainly right, And.

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Speaker 1: I guess like it is a little bit of like

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Speaker 1: a looser atmosphere because he does play a certain and

565
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Speaker 1: interesting role in that he is like administrative but also

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Speaker 1: like of the people in a way. That's like why

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Speaker 1: they love Andy, like, you know, he is among them, right,

568
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Speaker 1: But at a certain point, it's like, when are we

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Speaker 1: leaning into just things we've had in the past in

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Speaker 1: order to move anything forward and what is actually harmful here?

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Speaker 1: And let me also say, I don't want any of

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Speaker 1: these women to be in situations where they feel uncomfortable,

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Speaker 1: this low, where they feel uncomfortable, where they feel pressured,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. And I don't know the situations that happen,

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Speaker 1: but it's true what you're saying, Like when you read

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Speaker 1: like what is actually in these lawsuits, I'm actually I'm

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Speaker 1: struggling to see how like he is responsible for it

578
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Speaker 1: or like how But I guess these facts will come

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Speaker 1: out if there are facts, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Sure, sure, But Brandy is an interesting case, not even interesting.

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Speaker 2: It's like she's on camera like yeah, sexually, being a

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Speaker 2: little bit troublesome with her co stars.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's like there's documented I mean, like there's a case

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Speaker 2: against her for being very inappropriate with her coworkers, who

586
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Speaker 2: have not taken legal action against her. Yeah, the power

587
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Speaker 2: dynamic is different. They're obviously because she's not anyone's boss

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Speaker 2: in these situations. And Andy is also I don't know

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Speaker 2: personally and I have no legal knowledge or experience in

590
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Speaker 2: this at all, so this is completely disqualifying for me

591
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Speaker 2: to even have an opinion on this. But like it's Brandy.

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Speaker 2: It's like, this is someone who is retaliatory and manipulative,

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Speaker 2: and obviously she has her dignity, she's entitled to that dignity,

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Speaker 2: but she is also someone who doesn't care about other

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Speaker 2: people's in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 1: Well, I feel like what's happening now, actually is everyone

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Speaker 1: on the cast of this Ultimate Girl's Trip show that

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Speaker 1: got shelved because they've shot a whole season in Morocco,

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Speaker 1: right with like Caroline Manzeou, Brandy Glenville, phaedra Is on it,

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Speaker 1: Alex McCord, Camille Grammer, like Gretchen ROSSI like, it's like

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Speaker 1: they kind of got the greats for this Morocco Girls

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Speaker 1: Trip and now they're not showing it because allegedly something

603
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Speaker 1: happened in a bathroom where Caroline Manziel felt sexually violated

604
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Speaker 1: and harassed by Brandy Brandy, But Caroline is not suing her,

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Speaker 1: She's suing Bravo Peacock. I think, like all these administrative

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Speaker 1: executive level because she's saying that what they do is

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Speaker 1: they encourage sexual harassment and abuse for ratings, which to

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Speaker 1: me is like such a big thing to say, and

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Speaker 1: like how do you prove that? But I will also

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Speaker 1: say four or five lawsuits is too fucking many. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that makes me feel like either there's a problem

612
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Speaker 1: for sure, or this is like orchestrated in a larger

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Speaker 1: way and is like more nefarious. And I do I

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Speaker 1: think to myself all the time, like are you trying

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Speaker 1: to protect this thing in your head because it's something

616
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Speaker 1: you enjoy, in which case, like get over yourself, check yourself,

617
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: Like if there's a problem here, like see it. But

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Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to read these allegations and be

619
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Speaker 1: like at what point does your personal responsibility come in here? Like,

620
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Speaker 1: at what point are you going to take accountability for

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Speaker 1: I have a problem with alcohol. I know I'm susceptible

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Speaker 1: to these types of things. I shouldn't put myself in

623
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Speaker 1: a situation that is not good for me. At what

624
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Speaker 1: point is that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And the Leah thing is very complicated because of

626
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Speaker 2: her own sobriety journey, right, that kind of seemed to

627
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Speaker 2: be compromised as soon as she was on Ronie Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, she claims that she relapsed the week she

629
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Speaker 1: was called So she relapsed was called for? Ronnie said yes?

630
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Speaker 1: And then, as we know, if you're a fan of

631
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Speaker 1: her first season, she was drinking. And I remember what

632
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Speaker 1: I liked about Leah McSweeney the first season she was

633
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Speaker 1: on Housewives Is. I liked that she seemed like a

634
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: different flavor of New Yorker. She seemed like someone who,

635
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: like said whatever the fuck she wanted to say. She

636
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Speaker 1: was younger, she seemed like a new generation. I liked

637
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Speaker 1: the dichotomy between her and the older cast. Like. I

638
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: liked that she was in fashion. She was cool, she

639
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: was gorgeous, she was funny, Like there was a lot

640
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: about her that I really liked and felt fresh. When

641
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Speaker 1: I didn't like her was when she acted completely unhinged

642
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: when she was drunk, because she obviously had a problem.

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Speaker 1: She's out here saying now that she feels that was

644
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Speaker 1: what was good about her first season, and they held

645
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Speaker 1: it against her that she stopped drinking. I would argue

646
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Speaker 1: that Leo lost me when she went off the door,

647
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Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people would say the

648
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: same thing, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we obviously have our biases here as we're

650
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Speaker 2: talking about this in our experience with the Bravo verse

651
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Speaker 2: and our experiences at watch, what happens in terms of

652
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Speaker 2: us being served alcohol is not necessarily I can't be

653
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Speaker 2: too same reflective of what these women go through, right,

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Speaker 2: I am thinking, like I do kind of think there's

655
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: something orchestrated about this on like a higher level, where

656
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: like maybe a Bethany is like that's when I think,

657
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: so setting this into motion.

658
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: Personally, there's something weird about it because it's coming on

659
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: the heels of like the reality reckoning kind of flopping

660
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: because they she kind of had nothing, whereas like now

661
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: there's actually there's like real course of action, it's going

662
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: to be followed. What I'll say ultimately is that all

663
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: these lawsuits kind of drown each other out, but ultimately

664
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: it's it all ends up in something that's like not

665
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: a good look of course, and therefore like it needs

666
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: to be looked at, It needs to be like figured out,

667
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: because you just don't want people feeling like this, And

668
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: if people feel like this and it's not in bad faith,

669
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: then there's an issue. But like I just want to

670
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: be able to watch these shows and know that everyone's

671
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: safe doing it. But then again, it is reality TV,

672
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: and that is also a thing. It's like, can you

673
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: trust someone like Rachel Levis to put herself in a

674
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: safe situation? I don't know, Like she may not know

675
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: what that is, and therefore it's like it does feel

676
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: a little ugly. And one thing I'll say is I

677
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: was watching the Beverly Hills reunion last week week and

678
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: Anna Marie, who I didn't love on the show, but

679
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: was sitting there and she was talking about how, as

680
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: a result of being on the show, it was the

681
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: worst hardest year of her life, and you know, so

682
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: many things happened, and she felt like really depleted and

683
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: looked broken, and he asked about the online reaction to her,

684
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: and something about the way that she energetically was at

685
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: that reunion based around like the online harassment she had

686
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: faced made me feel like something's wrong here, something doesn't

687
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: feel right. Yeah, Like I felt really sad, and I

688
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: was like, oh, am, I gonna have to take a

689
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: little bit of a break from this stuff. Because I

690
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: also saw what you posted yesterday on your story and

691
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: that made me think too about how when you talk

692
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: about that.

693
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: I posted a real from podcast to Luxe Wonderful Podcast.

694
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 2: John Karamonica was talking about how like he is not

695
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: really okay with TikTok anymore because it's like to be

696
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: served an endless scroll of things that the algorithm things

697
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 2: you like, is like soul deadening. It's like it's not

698
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: actually giving you the grist, I guess or whatever, there's

699
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: a better word. It's not giving you the material you

700
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: need to be consuming in order to be a human being.

701
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: Like it's it kills a part of you to only

702
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: see things constantly over and over again that like are

703
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: meant to be for you and yet sometimes aren't and

704
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: sometimes they're upsetting and sometimes that's I mean, like that's

705
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: just like social media rit small I guess is like

706
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: this idea that it is. I mean, all these apps

707
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: that we're using now this is not exactly what you're

708
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: talking about with Housewives and Bravo, but it's like everything

709
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: we're being served now is like it's like we're at

710
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 2: the shopping mall. It's like yeah, and a lot of

711
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: people who our creators do come off as like QVC

712
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: people speaking of I Love that for you like come

713
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: off as like infomercially and like you kind of have

714
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: to rethink this whole thing of like, oh, I am

715
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 2: just it's like Sudie Green telling you in college, like

716
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 2: look at the PEPs look at the coke cans or whatever.

717
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: It's yeah, but it's like now the pepsi cans are

718
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: like right in our faces. You know, they're being shoved

719
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 2: in our faces. And that's how like transparent it's gotten.

720
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: I think what makes it hard to see is that

721
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: the pepsi cans are always in your faces, and sometimes

722
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: they change and sometimes it's it's just hard to look

723
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: at your environment and be like wait, hold on. And

724
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: I think like it was during that Beverly Hills reunion

725
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: that I was just like, hold on, am I desensitized

726
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: a little bit because I keep watching these shows and

727
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm so used to conflict. That's like white noise for

728
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: me in the background?

729
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 2: Yeah?

730
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, would I even be able to see

731
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: it if something was wrong? And I was sitting there

732
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: watching her and I was like, again, like I wasn't

733
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: a huge fan of her performance on the first season,

734
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: but I'm watching it and I'm just like, am I

735
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: in this atmosphere too much at this point? Like is

736
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: it a little oversaturated? Like did we fly too close

737
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: to the sun with this for now, and so I

738
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: might just.

739
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: Like take a little bit of a brushure, which is health.

740
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: Even listening to myself talk right now, I'm like hearing

741
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: myself say like you know, like you know, we don't

742
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: want these women to be in dangerous positions, but also

743
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: like I don't want to get like what did they

744
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: expect like that that's great?

745
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we're not saying that. And us even

746
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 2: talking about this is a little is not us like

747
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: questioning like anything about what legal action they're taking. We're

748
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: just saying that, like this is a really this is

749
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: a hugely entangled situation that has a lot going on

750
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: and has people's humanity and dignity like ripped into it.

751
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: And like are these kinds of shows Like I think knowingly,

752
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: I think we all understand that these shows kind of

753
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: exploit that on the right level. And that's not like

754
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: us like defying whatever the mission of these shows are.

755
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 2: I think that is just kind of worked into like

756
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: reality TV as a whole, as a collective, Like even

757
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: if you go on Survivor or on The Traders, there's

758
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: there's a dignity that is that is a little bit

759
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 2: at toll there.

760
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean if someone were to say something crazy

761
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: about you and it was damaging but could also be

762
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: used as story. Like they would do that because you've

763
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: allowed them to do that. You've willfully signed up for that,

764
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: which is why, like you wouldn't do a show like

765
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: that because like, for example, like let's just say Bowen

766
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: and I actually were reached out to about the traders, Like,

767
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: would it be in our best interest to say, yes,

768
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: here are our images, do with them what you want. Huh, No,

769
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be in our best interest. But for some

770
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: people they make a different decision.

771
00:39:55,080 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: Like I've even had pretty brain scrambling experience is working

772
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: at my job where I am like presenting a version

773
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: of myself to people to be evaluated and to be

774
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: like commented on, and like I roll at this, but

775
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: like I'm really lucky and proud and happy that Bowen

776
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: Straight got made as a way of sort of like

777
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 2: winking at the audience and as a way of kind

778
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: of like making light of this, like this really confounding

779
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: thing that I think people have with me being a

780
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: gay man, like them kind of ascribing it as like

781
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: a character choice that like it's all I can do,

782
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, you guys don't get it. Like,

783
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: I don't think there's such a thing as like a

784
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: gay humor. I don't think there's Like I don't think

785
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: gay humor is specific to queer people or queer human

786
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: specific queer people. It should be if it's good, it

787
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: should be for everybody. But I think in terms of

788
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: subject matter, I love writing about queer things, and I

789
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: like writing about sexuality. I like writing about finding the

790
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: different ways in, Like it's Truman Capoti being a gay

791
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: man who hates women talking about women, or it's me

792
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: being straight, or it's me being like a Pops star Iceberg. Whatever.

793
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: It's like there are all these different ways in, and

794
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: yet people still create a dimensionless point out of that

795
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: and go, well, that's just like a bad part of

796
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: who he is, And like that is something that like

797
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: is completely soul crushing in its own way if you're

798
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: any version of yourself on a TV show or like

799
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: putting out yourself out there from mass consumption, and like

800
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: these women experience it on such a weird distorted scale,

801
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: Like anytime we go and watch what happens, we're all

802
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: like WHOA, Like, yeah, the people who like talk about

803
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: us are some real fucking weirdos. I'm sorry to say,

804
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 2: some weird fucking people are out there and we just

805
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: deal with them like once every few months. These are

806
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: people who do with them every day, every week, right,

807
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 2: And I can't imagine what that does to their psyche

808
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: and or how that informs their relationship with the network

809
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: or with the shows that they're on, with their jobs,

810
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: with their life. I mean, like what I said yesterday

811
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: and Press was like all I can say is like,

812
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: let's not forget that this is people's jobs and this

813
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 2: kind of like is in the air for them. So

814
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: I don't really know exactly what's happening with everybody, but

815
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: it seems like let's just remember that as we talk

816
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: about it. Anyway, That was kind of a good job

817
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 2: out answer.

818
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: But I will say I do feel that if Andy

819
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: Cohen were to offer two people cocaine, it would be us,

820
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: and he hasn't. I was thinking about it, how I'm like,

821
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: we have such a blast at that show, like whenever

822
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: we're on it feels like family vibes like, and then

823
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: I just feel like, who's the offering cocaine to if

824
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 1: not us? Right? Right? Right? You know what I mean?

825
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, hell drum. Also, if you've been offered cocaine. Oh,

826
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: but Lias saying like she's been offered cocaine and.

827
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: This doesn't make any sense.

828
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: Well, Lias saying that she's been offered cocaine and that

829
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: if she doesn't accept then she gets worse.

830
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: Edit on the show. That is can I say I

831
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: like Leah. I've talked to her a couple of times personally.

832
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: I actually like her a lot more in my personal

833
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: interactions with her than I ever really did on the show.

834
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 1: So I don't think that could possibly make sense at

835
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: all to think. So what if we're walking this through

836
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: this is the I guess premise here. Andy Cohen loves

837
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: cocaine so much, you're saying, and needs people around him

838
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: that are his subordinates to also like cocaine so much

839
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: that if they don't, he actively punishes them, despite the

840
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: fact that maybe that won't produce the best show. That

841
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to me. I also don't think

842
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: he is editing the show. He's not contacting the editors

843
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: and being like, hey, listen, we need so and so

844
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,479
Speaker 1: to get a bad edit. Oh, why well, they didn't

845
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: do coke with me. That doesn't make any sense. Andy

846
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: Cohen is the kind of person. He's wealthy enough, he's

847
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: connected enough, he can get coke, he can find people

848
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: to do coke with. He doesn't need your housewives to

849
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: be doing cocaine with him, and he's not gonna punish

850
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: you for not doing it. I don't think this is

851
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: a thing. It just doesn't actually make sense.

852
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: Understand the idea that, like, she feels that cocaine is

853
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: very much in the culture of these shows on a

854
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: sort of behind the scenes level, but like, I don't know, it.

855
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: Calls back to that Kathy Griffin thing, because remember she

856
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: was like, oh, one time he asked me to do

857
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: coke before a show, and I was so taken aback,

858
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: and it was like so that it feels like it's

859
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: been said once before, but it almost feels like because

860
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: it was said that one time, it's being thrown out

861
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: there again as like an additive thing to throw on

862
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: the pile of like toxic workplace atmosphere. Right, But again,

863
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: like when you actually think it through logically, that doesn't

864
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: make sense. Yeah, and cocaine is everywhere.

865
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: Everyone take a break from cocaine for a little bit too, Well, Yeah,

866
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 2: let's just nobody do it. How about that.

867
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: Let's tell me it's not about drag race. So you like,

868
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: what do I like?

869
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeahe No, I think I've gone on record saying I'm

870
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: pretty anti Plain Jane. I'm sorry.

871
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: I like Plain Jane as a drag queen. It's just

872
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: all the other stuff. I'm like, girl, relaxed.

873
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: Lovely drag queen, very capable drag queen. Relax, just relax

874
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: And actually you're just being mean and not even like

875
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: this is not the right word, and I hate the

876
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 2: name using this word. You're not being witty, which is

877
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: to say that, like, you're not being fun about it.

878
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: She thinks she is, and I think that that's all

879
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,479
Speaker 2: coming from an insecurity that she's expressed that she has

880
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 2: which join the fucking club of humanity. Like, yeah, I

881
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: might do my own think some honey on people saying

882
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: they're insecure and feeling that is unique, like we're all insecure. Yeah,

883
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: I don't care.

884
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, I was a vicious evil person. I'm just insecure. Sorry.

885
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 2: I was a vicious evil person who like diminished your

886
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: humanity because I experienced something universal that doesn't give you

887
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: a way out anyway. I mean, the Boston thing the

888
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: Russian thing. I know Katia is not Russian, but like

889
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 2: it's just I'm sorry, like I can't. It's only giving

890
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: an echo of Katya to me, and she is one

891
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: of our greatest ever, our greatest period e ever. I

892
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: don't think that Snatch game performance was that, although I

893
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: guess it was the best out of all of them.

894
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 2: That was a pretty rough Snatch game, I will.

895
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: Say, yeah, I don't think it was one of the

896
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: shining Snatch games.

897
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: And we're saying this as people who are at this point,

898
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: we are aware every season going into Snatch Game, the

899
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 2: expectations are not high. Yeah, because that's what Snatch game

900
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: does is it makes it gets you all excited to like,

901
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: but it's I mean, not all of them can be

902
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: like All Star seven like where that was just like

903
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: across the board, everyone being amazing.

904
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: We've also seen how the sausage is made now and

905
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: it's like interesting to see how Snatch game shakes out,

906
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: and it's fucking hard. It's so hard, and especially if

907
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: that's not what your thing is, I don't know that

908
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: I could do it, like, and it feels like that

909
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: these girls like that's not really their thing. Like everyone's

910
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: like Oh, I can't believe a third design challenge. It's like,

911
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: did you want a third performance challenge? Is that what

912
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: you wanted? Like, based on what we have seen, right,

913
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: did you want another performance or active challenge or whatever

914
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: it is? Like, I think it's good. They're obviously leaning

915
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: into like what these girls are good at, and we

916
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: saw Plasma like whin all these performance challenges and do great,

917
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: Like I feel like we've seen the excellence in terms

918
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: of performance. I think we've seen and now it's like,

919
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: you know, we're looking at what we have here and

920
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: it's like, I think the more compelling challenges will be

921
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: designed and fashion challenges because of these girls.

922
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: Interesting. I said to you yesterday on Instagram or the

923
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 2: other day two days ago on our live that Plasma

924
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: I think should be so proud. She Yeah, turned it out.

925
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: She showcased what she is amazing at and she is

926
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: amazing at it, which is all the performance stuff. Gave

927
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: like a fresh, updated version of like what a vintage

928
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: queen quote unquote is like, was giving you drinks kind

929
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: of in an updated way.

930
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

931
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed her. Best of luckt her she will

932
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: be fine.

933
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was definitely in the bottom two and lost

934
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: the lips in for sure. Yeah, I mean, so people

935
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: being like I can't believe Plasma is out. It's like, guys,

936
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: like she was for sure in the bottom two and

937
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 1: she lost the lipsying. Yes, that's how it works.

938
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 2: I think we were just like conditioned in the edit

939
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 2: to think that she was gonna be top four because

940
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: she was such she was by far the most reliable narrator.

941
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 2: They were cutting to her talking head the most.

942
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely, I will say I

943
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: think that's because there are only a few super compelling narrators, yes,

944
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: this year. I think she's one of them, and Plain

945
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: Jane is one of them. And I think Plain and

946
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: Jane's edit really kind of took over the first third

947
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: of the season, and so they moved it to Plasma

948
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time with her, and now she's gone.

949
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna be seeing a lot more

950
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: of Plane again because again, these girls are like introspective

951
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: fashion girls. Like it's it's it's almost like Season seven

952
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: in a way, you know what I mean. Like it's

953
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: like it feels like these people are more creative than

954
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: they are performative, which is so funny. I want to

955
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: know what you think about because everyone was talking about

956
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: how this goth high fashion Goth challenge, the design Challenge.

957
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,959
Speaker 1: People were like pretty up in arms on a couple

958
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: group chats. I was on that Nimphia didn't win that,

959
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 1: and I was interested about your take on the Nymphia

960
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: versus Q of it.

961
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: All I think was this Q's second win. I think

962
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: has Ninfhia already won too. I think that that's just

963
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 2: like a production thing where they're like, let's try to

964
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: make this more even. I liked C's look a lot,

965
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: like that back detail was great.

966
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: I thought it was definitely the Winter hands down.

967
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: I thought, so what ces? Yeah, yeah, Now, Q like

968
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: took down her socials, which I guess is not as

969
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: much of like a that's insane, but also like I

970
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: can relate to this, like at a certain point, you

971
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 2: just hit, you hit your break and you're just like

972
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: I don't.

973
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: Oh, not that she took it down, that she felt

974
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: so abused or like exposed that she had to take it.

975
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: Down, Like right, right, I've only taken my stuff down.

976
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: I've only Selena Gomaz when I'm just like oh, I

977
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 2: internally it's not because of any external circumstance. It's just

978
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: that I'm like, I don't want to deal with this.

979
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to exist out there for you.

980
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And maybe she was going through

981
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: some of that. I don't know sure.

982
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: I mean, whatever anyone feels like they need to do,

983
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: they should do. But I just feel like when I

984
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 1: hear that someone had to do that, I would imagine

985
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: it's because they're being like toxically abused online, which.

986
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: Especially on drag Race, which is another thing of like,

987
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 2: oh god, Like when we were on All Stars, it

988
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: was this like a few days of just like the

989
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 2: weirdest fucking people being like up in our shit, and

990
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 2: I was like, shut the fuck up, get out of

991
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: my face. I'm so sick of some of these people.

992
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: Most of it was lovely, and most of it always

993
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: is lotally, and then there is those little things like even.

994
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 3: The other day, like someone got in my DMS and

995
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 3: said this long thing that like they were so specifically

996
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 3: angry at me for something they had no idea what

997
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 3: they were talking about.

998
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, ugh. I was at dinner with

999
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: a friend. I was with Jared actually, and I was like,

1000
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: oh god, I'm so distracted by this thing, and he's

1001
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: like and he picks up my phone and he's like,

1002
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: this is not real. This doesn't matter.

1003
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, you need to watch Perfect Blue

1004
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 2: by Satasha Khan tonight.

1005
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot on my list, Honey, I gotta

1006
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 1: watch Irish Wish, the movie with Lindsay Lohan.

1007
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: Oh my Lindsay, Oh my Lindsay, Oh my Lindsay. She's

1008
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: back again.

1009
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: Whenever Lindsay Lohan makes a comeback, I always feel like

1010
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: on top of the world, on.

1011
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 2: Top of the world. You know, Lindsay is on my

1012
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 2: list of This is so annoying of women I stand

1013
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: who have followed and then unfollowed me on Instagram. Really

1014
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: you want to know this list. It's kind of sad.

1015
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: Lindsay Lohan, Natalie Portman. Natalie unfollowed Natalie. I think she

1016
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: did like a big purge, like a deep clean on

1017
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: her follow and I didn't. I didn't make the cut,

1018
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: she said, Yang, but Natalie was.

1019
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

1020
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: Natalie was a reliable like for me sometimes on Grid

1021
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: really and then she just and then one day I

1022
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: think she was just like, no, no more.

1023
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: Natalie Portman feels to me like someone we could get

1024
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: on the show and confront about this.

1025
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to confront her. I want to leave.

1026
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: When she follows one hundred and ninety nine people, I know.

1027
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 2: I think she did, like take the numbers down. I

1028
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: think she was like in the four digits and then

1029
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 2: she was like no, no, no, no, no, I'm Natalie Portman.

1030
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that.

1031
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 1: Here's what we both follow Rihanna.

1032
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, that's that period end of list.

1033
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: Like Rihanna, and then I think it's like Drew Barrymore

1034
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: of course. Oh my god. Yeah, she's an exclusive girl.

1035
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean Natalie Horman should be because it Natalie missed your

1036
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 1: for Christ's sakes, she's podme.

1037
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 2: Pod me. Yes, I was gonna correct and say pad ma,

1038
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: but no, you're right. Why what did you correct me

1039
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 2: and say podma when it's not? When it's not I

1040
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: was gonna say earlier. I mean, best of all time

1041
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: is Empire strikes back, Attack of the Clones, Attack with

1042
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: the Clones. I mean those aliens for Boba fat? Yeah, right,

1043
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: was it Boba boba? Those tall skinny aliens who like

1044
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: introduce some obi wan to Boba fat.

1045
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: You are talking right now, and I'm ready to do

1046
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: my own't think Sahney, Okay.

1047
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 2: This is I don't think so honey, where we take

1048
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,959
Speaker 2: one minute to go off against something in culture that's

1049
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: really chopping our asses. Matt, are you ready? Yeah, this

1050
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many time starts down.

1051
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Boba fet You're a fucking bitch.

1052
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: You have no friends. You obviously never went to therapy.

1053
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 1: You didn't get your fucking stuff together. Because now while

1054
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: you're out here like what I'm working for people doing

1055
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: their dirty work to be a bounty hunter. I hope

1056
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: that you look at your fucking CV, your LinkedIn, you

1057
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: see bounty hunter on it and you feel fucking good

1058
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: at night. Bitch, you are so lame, what toxic, disgusting

1059
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: life that you live, trolling the galaxy looking space planet

1060
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: to space planet for like what to arrest people doing

1061
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: citizen to arrest on people? You don't even know what

1062
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: these people have done. You have no idea why you

1063
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: want Han Solo. You don't even know why you want him,

1064
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: So why are you ruining lives?

1065
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 2: Why are you ruining a young.

1066
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: Relationship just for someone else's bullshit?

1067
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 2: You will work with fifteen seconds.

1068
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: You work with siths, bitch, I don't think so, honey.

1069
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: You're disgusting. Show your fucking face. How about that for

1070
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: once in your life, Boba Fett, show your face, challenge.

1071
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: You died the way you deserve to die in the

1072
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 1: belly of the Sarlac. Fuck you, I don't think so, honey.

1073
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 2: That's one minute, Boba. I'm sorry, Boba Fett was going

1074
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: after hand solo. I have to correct myself. Django Fett

1075
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 2: is his father who is in Attack of the Clones,

1076
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: and Django Fett was, yes, was Attack of the Clones.

1077
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: I just had to correct myself. Thank you for that. Impassionate.

1078
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: Well, I absolutely just read his son the house down.

1079
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just don't want to see him

1080
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: over fat, like I'm so disgusting.

1081
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: No, I don't think you have to worry about him.

1082
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what do you think about the Mandalorian? He

1083
00:54:59,480 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 2: has his helme.

1084
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. If Pedro Pascal is going to be

1085
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: the star or something, I want to see that face.

1086
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 2: I want to see the face. I want to see

1087
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 2: the bridge of that nose.

1088
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: Like, I can't believe my guy is so covered up

1089
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: in the show. When you realize what exactly is happening

1090
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:20,479
Speaker 1: underneath the mask perfection. Clark Gable, I almost just said

1091
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 1: something really graphic about what I would like to do

1092
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: with Pedro Pascal and we have to move up. Okay,

1093
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: I was getting horny on my birthday.

1094
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 2: I guess we're gonna have to fight. It's about to

1095
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 2: be what a girl fight.

1096
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 1: Gay fight?

1097
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 2: Gay fight?

1098
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: Should the title of episode be gay fight? One word

1099
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: gay fight?

1100
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 3: No?

1101
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: We should.

1102
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 2: We should come out with a song called gay fight

1103
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: sequel to Altercation? Oh, about to be an altercations to

1104
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 2: fight with every It's kind of Rianna coated, sort of.

1105
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: But I do think the title of episode now is

1106
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: gay fight, gay fight. Okay, I don't think so, honey,

1107
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: to do I did.

1108
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: I think I'm just gonna follow through on what I

1109
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: said earlier because this is really this kind of this

1110
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: pisses me off the shit fuck all.

1111
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: Right, this is bull nangus. I don't think so honey.

1112
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: As time starts now, I don't think so honey. Oh

1113
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 2: I'm insecure, and that's why I did a bad thing.

1114
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 2: We're all insecure. No one is not insecure. Maybe your grandmother,

1115
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 2: who fucking survived a terrible societal trauma from decades ago

1116
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: and has had to be so resilient that she has

1117
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: no time to think about like where she fits into society.

1118
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: But even and especially the fucking fitness people who are

1119
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 2: like getting fucked every which way every day of the week,

1120
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: who go, well, I'm toxic. I'm not saying all fitness

1121
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 2: people are toxic, but I'm saying the ones who are,

1122
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 2: like who happened to be like rotten packages are like, oh,

1123
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: but I'm insecure. I'm actually insecure. Yeah, I know that, hun.

1124
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 2: That is the human condition. Baby ree is universal as well.

1125
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 2: I've just experienced it on different scales and different levels

1126
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 2: in different forms.

1127
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: Don't use that.

1128
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 2: As a way to act out and act unwrite.

1129
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: And that's one minute.

1130
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 2: It's true.

1131
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: It's I'm insecure. Is not like a big reveal, no,

1132
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: like like I'm so sorry. The reason why I did

1133
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: that actually is because I'm insecure.

1134
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 2: Is like, it doesn't give me, it doesn't give you

1135
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 2: an extra access. So that's why when someone like plain

1136
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: Jane is like, I'm actually really insecure, I'm like, well,

1137
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: I don't fucking care. Stop being a fucking cunt. In

1138
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 2: the words of the Manderastori, meeting.

1139
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: My thing is like too. It's like when someone's like

1140
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm really insecure, I feel like that's because they're like

1141
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: taking advantage of like a coddle culture and like an

1142
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: awareness of mental health culture, which is really necessary. But

1143
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: then they're just like but then they're the thing to

1144
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: that and exploiting that to like get away with really shitty, toxic,

1145
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: harmful behavior because they think they can say this thing

1146
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: that is now universal. It's like you get out of

1147
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: jail free card.

1148
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: Oh but mental illness like oh yes, yeah, people are

1149
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 2: actually mentally ill, right, and you might be as well

1150
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 2: on some level, but we have to figure out what

1151
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: is acceptable.

1152
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: What if Plane J was like I'm really sorry, I've

1153
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: been so mean.

1154
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm incredibly mentally ill, then you should not be on

1155
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: this television show. I also bet that, like, well, again,

1156
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: there's the editing of it all, which like blame it

1157
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 2: on the edit, but like that is also a thing.

1158
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: It's like, plain no, I'm saying like forever anyone that's

1159
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: on reality TV. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, it's

1160
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: an excuse, sure, but it's also real. I mean, like

1161
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: you are being edited into a caricature of yourself to

1162
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: suit a narrative purpose, like that is true, Like I

1163
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: can't imagine, Like I actually would wonder like these villains

1164
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: on these shows, like do they sit back and they

1165
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: are like, Wow, look at me. I'm a really effective

1166
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: function on this show. Or is it I fucking hate myself.

1167
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: I can't believe this or is it kind of both?

1168
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's why, like the Tiffany Pollit's of

1169
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: the world are really special because like, not once was

1170
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 2: she like I'm sorry, I'm such a bitch.

1171
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: I am I'm secure.

1172
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 2: She owned it. She's owned it every single moment she's

1173
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: been on camera.

1174
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: Ye, and I'm incredibly secure period, too secure, too secure.

1175
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 2: The only person who broke Tiffany Pollard was Rain on

1176
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: season one A Flavor of Love, who freaked out her

1177
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: in the van, and you should go back and watch

1178
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: that episode because it is incredible. And Rain was the

1179
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 2: one in the back of the van who was like,

1180
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 2: I'm singing.

1181
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: Your shit, I'm sick of your shit.

1182
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 2: And then New York starts crying because like she doesn't

1183
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: know why this girl is freaking out at her, but

1184
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: it's because she's been me.

1185
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, taste of her own medicine. Well, that's I guess

1186
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: how you ultimately like deal with someone who's emma is

1187
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: chaos is you just bring more chaos.

1188
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: You just bring more chaos a moment, Yeah, and then

1189
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 2: you pull back because you cannot actually stay at their

1190
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 2: level and their frequency, because then you go crazy.

1191
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: Actually the definition of chaos right, going all the way

1192
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: and then taking all that like, that's chaotic, you know

1193
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like having an explosive moment and then

1194
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: being like, I don't mind like.

1195
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 2: That I'm saying as a way to manage someone else's chaos,

1196
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 2: don't don't.

1197
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: Don't you're calling me chaotic? Do I think you're chaotic?

1198
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: Hmm, I don't know that. You want to don't go

1199
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 2: down this path. I would say I'm more chaotic than you. Absolutely,

1200
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: you really were confident about that. And that's why we

1201
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: love you. And that's why I love you so much.

1202
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: I'm so happy that you are in all of our lives.

1203
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: We are so lucky to know you and to love you.

1204
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 2: Happy birthday, my Queen.

1205
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: Can I get a birthday wish? Yes? I want you

1206
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: to sing me my favorite song. As the end of every

1207
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: episode with a song, I want you to sing me

1208
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: my favorite song. And I just for once get the

1209
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: setback and enjoy the singing. Am I supposed to know

1210
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: what your favorite song is?

1211
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't you have so many? What is it?

1212
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: Boone? What's my favorite song?

1213
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 2: I don't know? What is this?

1214
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: Single? Okay?

1215
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 2: I'm picking out this dress on me shoe. You can

1216
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 2: be single suit, me single suit.

1217
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: I'll be a messa, break the news.

1218
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 2: Single suit.

1219
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: This is my favorite part. Here we go.

1220
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do one.

1221
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: About one.

1222
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it.

1223
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: Wa do.

1224
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 2: To hear more of that song? Was this singles scene?

1225
01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: So good?

1226
01:01:58,800 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 3: Mo?

1227
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 2: Thank you hav to me?

1228
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: Have you read that? Mm hmm