WEBVTT - Echo Kellum Disobeys Bridger

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<v Speaker 1>But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're a guest to my home. You gotta come

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<v Speaker 2>to me empty, And I said, no guests, you're o

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<v Speaker 2>presences presents enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I already had too much stuff, So how did you

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<v Speaker 1>dare to surbey me?

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineger January,

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<v Speaker 3>I suppose, and at least this is January. Nodding their head. Uh, so,

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<v Speaker 3>I assume I'm catching you on the slopes, probably zipping

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<v Speaker 3>down the mountain on your new skis, going this way

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<v Speaker 3>and that. I mean, I can't imagine anything else you

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<v Speaker 3>would be doing. I had lunch at Chipotle. God only

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<v Speaker 3>knows what I was thinking. Rough experience. But we're in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of the day. It's beautiful, we're in the backyard,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm very excited about today's guests. He's just wonderful.

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<v Speaker 3>It's echo kellum echo. Welcome to said.

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<v Speaker 4>Okifts, thank you so much for having me. I'm very thankful.

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<v Speaker 4>I already said thank you. Look that two thanks in

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<v Speaker 4>one sentence.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, the gratitude is just shining through. I'm not quite

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<v Speaker 3>sure what to do with myself today. It's been so cold,

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<v Speaker 3>and now it feels like it's summer.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I'm wear a full on sweater. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>ninety seven degree. It was like sixty eight degrees yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, sweater weather is here. I'm living,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thriving, and today I am. I am completely drenched.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like even just wearing pants, I'm overdressed for this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's too much. But uh, I guess we should enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>this before it begins raining.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I I I'm like, I'm like, uh, Noah,

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<v Speaker 4>like is going right? I looked forward to the rain.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if Noah looked forward to the rain.

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<v Speaker 4>I just remember that one thing was like, it's going rain.

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<v Speaker 4>Like he just keeps saying it's going rain, and yeah, Noah,

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<v Speaker 4>sure he's blowing that arc. It ain't going right. But

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<v Speaker 4>I look forward to the rain out here.

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<v Speaker 3>I I wish I could. I mean, Uh, listeners of

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<v Speaker 3>this podcast know that last year my house flooded, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like dealing with that kind of residual feeling, hoping

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<v Speaker 3>that it doesn't happen again this year. Then I can

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<v Speaker 3>embrace rain again.

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<v Speaker 5>My back house flooded.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not a house, it's like it was a garage

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<v Speaker 4>that I converted into a man cave.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like I don't even think I'm like rich. Like

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<v Speaker 5>I have a backhouse.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very central. A car would fit in it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>but that's about it. But you know, it flooded a

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<v Speaker 4>few years ago. There was like this intense rainstorm.

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<v Speaker 3>Was like more water drop, more water dropped.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh god, that's my that's where I'm from.

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<v Speaker 4>Water more water dropped in a span of like an

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<v Speaker 4>hour and a half than like one hundred years in La.

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<v Speaker 4>Like about four or five years ago. The flooded my

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<v Speaker 4>back car garage conversion, right and my whole backyard. So

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<v Speaker 4>I was just like, man, this sucks. But then I'm

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<v Speaker 4>also like we've dealt with so many droughts, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>like I just don't I just want to be thankful.

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<v Speaker 5>When I live in Vancouver, it rained all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>I hated my life. I was so sad. Of course,

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<v Speaker 5>so I understand that, but yeah, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Feels bad to complain when we're so desperate for any

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<v Speaker 3>level of water. But the moment it starts, I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>in a complete panic and cursing it and just being

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<v Speaker 3>like I let's do a drought for twenty years. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't care anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you doing doing that herriquake? Remember that was

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<v Speaker 4>like August.

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<v Speaker 3>I was definitely scared. Yeah, I mean I was so tense.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like my back was going to break. And

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<v Speaker 3>it rained for like a day. Yeah, but we didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have any flooding. I think it has to rain for

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<v Speaker 3>thirty six hours before I'm in an actual danger. Okay, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's in a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to be Yeah, the rain's coming.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I mean it's noah, it's me okay, but I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing nothing to prepare. I'm just waiting to see

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<v Speaker 3>what happens to me again.

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<v Speaker 4>Collecting animals, of course, that's the one thing I know

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<v Speaker 4>and I have.

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<v Speaker 3>My house is just full of animals. They're fighting, they're mating,

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<v Speaker 3>they're eating everything, life life. When your place flooded, what

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<v Speaker 3>did you like slowly know it was beginning to flood

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<v Speaker 3>or was it like you walk back there and you're like, oh, no.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just had some where it's a back patios

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<v Speaker 4>in the backyard. Well, don't want to say, yar, it's

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<v Speaker 4>very small, that's very tiny. I just had some work

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<v Speaker 4>done on the back patio, and so they like redid

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<v Speaker 4>the top and then like they did something with like

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<v Speaker 4>a little wall I have back there to make it

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<v Speaker 4>easier for the rain. And then it just I looked

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<v Speaker 4>out back and it was flooding and it was coming

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<v Speaker 4>toward my house.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>And I looked in the back room. It was like

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<v Speaker 4>water ankle deep, and I was like, ohly shit. They

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<v Speaker 4>had all my I have shoes in there. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a whole bottom row done like just classics.

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<v Speaker 5>Gone like, yeah, what.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you do with the shoes?

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<v Speaker 5>I tossed them. Oh, this has happened to me before.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I had some sneakers in the bedroom at my

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<v Speaker 4>brother's house in him and Indiana years and years ago,

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<v Speaker 4>and his house flooded and it ruined all of my Jordans.

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<v Speaker 3>These shoes.

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<v Speaker 5>I shouldn't have nice shoes, but I do. I love shoes.

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<v Speaker 5>I still buy them. I need them.

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<v Speaker 4>But I did the dumbest thing in the world. I

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<v Speaker 4>got a bucket and start trying to like shove water

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<v Speaker 4>the side to help, and it was it was just

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<v Speaker 4>it was.

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<v Speaker 5>Raining so intensely, so it was just nothing I could do.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, there's truly nothing. You just have to wait for

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<v Speaker 3>it to be I just waited yet. What else was

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<v Speaker 3>in this room? Oh man?

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<v Speaker 4>This is like this was like my man it's my

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<v Speaker 4>storage room now, but it used to be my man

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<v Speaker 4>cave room. Like I have like a little TV put

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<v Speaker 4>up in there, but it's mainly like shoes across the wall,

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<v Speaker 4>like I have like probably three hundred pairs of Oh

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<v Speaker 4>my god, this is a foot loss. So it's literally

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<v Speaker 4>like but they're all in like these like nice little

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<v Speaker 4>drop boxes, so you can just open up the front

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<v Speaker 4>and just grab them and they're so it's like, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not about.

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<v Speaker 3>Three hundred pairs of shoes. Is that what you said?

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<v Speaker 5>Something like that, Yeah, something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I to be fair, I don't buy a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>shoes now, but there was a period twenty fifteen to

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen where I was obsessed with sneakers and buying them.

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<v Speaker 3>And right right, what was the did it? Like you

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<v Speaker 3>picked a pair and they were like, oh, I need

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<v Speaker 3>to just keep doing this. I mean, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Really generational trauma is the reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Why I bought it.

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<v Speaker 5>I was a poor black kid, sure.

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<v Speaker 4>And I would wear the air Gordon's to school with

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<v Speaker 4>the Michael Jordan who's way too strong, and it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>That, ain't Michael Jordan's mighty be able to get him?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>So when you are very poor black man, you get

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<v Speaker 4>any summits of money, shoe fairy shop comes up and

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<v Speaker 4>says you have to do this, you have to do it,

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<v Speaker 4>and you have to buy a sneaker for some reason.

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<v Speaker 4>But the poor you have to start off poor, you know. So,

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<v Speaker 4>But no, it was like I always wanted cool sneakers

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<v Speaker 4>and I never can really have and like that, I

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<v Speaker 4>was a little still miffed about the Jordan's situation in

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<v Speaker 4>him in Indiana, so I started buying. It was one pair,

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<v Speaker 4>this is what, this is what happens. I saw one

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<v Speaker 4>pair called the Jordan twelve wings, okay, and you can

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<v Speaker 4>rub off some of the Jordan and it reveals golden

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<v Speaker 4>black wings underneath it. They were so cool and it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>I have to have these shoes. And it just awoken

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<v Speaker 4>my shoe off. I was like, oh my god. And

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, I'm making money. Yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 4>I can buy shoes.

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<v Speaker 3>You can treat yourself to wow. So the shoes were

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<v Speaker 3>like a I don't even know what that is like

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<v Speaker 3>a lotto ticket or something. Yeah, kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it just meant like, you know, there's so

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<v Speaker 4>much uh, shoe envy from where I was from, like

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<v Speaker 4>just being like poor kids, we can never just have

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<v Speaker 4>the cool stuff, you know. So it was just kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like the kid who had the Jordan, you knew

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<v Speaker 4>their parents are doing, like, oh, you got two parents,

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<v Speaker 4>so you're both the parents in the household. Okay, we see,

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<v Speaker 4>you know whatever. But for the rest of those who

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<v Speaker 4>were just like man, I was some cool. She was

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<v Speaker 4>wearing extra nine hundreds and pro wings and things like that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So to be very clear though, what I was saying

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<v Speaker 3>is when you scratch the shoe.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I won the lot was kind of entertainment. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you rub it off, and then it's is the gold

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<v Speaker 4>gone forever? Well, so they're they're black and white, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and then when you rub the black off, it's black

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<v Speaker 4>and gold.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's wings. This incredible, like dozens of wings. It's

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<v Speaker 5>so cool.

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<v Speaker 4>I had I bought two hairs of them just so

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<v Speaker 4>I could like rub off one of course satisfying, and

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<v Speaker 4>of course I got them. I was like, I can't

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<v Speaker 4>rub these off. These are these are prices. I can't

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<v Speaker 4>do anything. I haven't done that.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait till you're on your deathbed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, bring maybe twelve wings.

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<v Speaker 3>Now more shoes should be designed to like become cooler

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<v Speaker 3>as you wear them. They should, Yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 3>imagine that's not exactly why they do that, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they're right. That's really amazing. How much does

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<v Speaker 3>a pair of shoes like that cost?

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<v Speaker 4>The truth is the resale that is the expensive part, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And I keeping them out for just two hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you know, it's like, you know what you would

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<v Speaker 4>expect to be, but if you're trying to get them

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<v Speaker 4>on resale, they're like a thousand or something.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So were you ever waiting in lines or anything?

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<v Speaker 4>Not not physically on the net yet, Like I'll get

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<v Speaker 4>on sneakers app and then it's like you're waiting a

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<v Speaker 4>line and stuff like that, or foot.

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<v Speaker 5>Lockers doing a drop. I would do that type of stuff, but.

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<v Speaker 4>I was never one of the I mean, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>I have gone to a line or two, maybe two

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<v Speaker 4>at the most in my entire life, but I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>not the Hey, let's show up at now. I think

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<v Speaker 4>I did it one time, showed up at the mall

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<v Speaker 4>at nine am. The mall on that open till ten

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<v Speaker 4>there was already a line with twenty five people and

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<v Speaker 4>they had two pairs of sneakers. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh what am I doing here? Like, I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>never doing this again.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, I in the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 3>I came to the conclusion that nothing is worth waiting

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<v Speaker 3>in a line for. If there are more than three

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<v Speaker 3>people have to stand behind whatever it is is, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't need it. Yeah, I won't enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if it's a bar or someone want to go

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<v Speaker 4>to in the's a line, no, and you know, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>go to the guy and I'm like, hey, you know

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<v Speaker 4>I have a back garage house.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, He's like, I don't care, man, get out

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<v Speaker 5>of it. But I ain't waiting this line, brother, you

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<v Speaker 5>know you.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't hear me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm doing well. I have a back garage, thanks sir.

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<v Speaker 4>So can I please get in this establishment? No, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not waiting.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you're yelling at to the line. You're just

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<v Speaker 3>trying to get anyone to be impressed by.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyone to be impressed by that. You know, I have

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<v Speaker 5>a converted.

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<v Speaker 3>Garage and it's currently draw it's dried, only flooded once.

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<v Speaker 4>I was definitely worried that every time it rains. That

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<v Speaker 4>is a worry of mine. Okay, oh, it can happen

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<v Speaker 4>again because I didn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't do anything. What do you think You've got

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<v Speaker 3>to do something?

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<v Speaker 4>Just like whoa, that's that's that's what happens sometimes things flood.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you at least like lift the shoes up off

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<v Speaker 3>the floor.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I did something. I mean I mean like

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<v Speaker 5>it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I redid the whole room or like it was

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<v Speaker 4>like let's get all this out here.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just like damn. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I tested for mold and it was like no mold.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, well, great, that's all I can expect.

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<v Speaker 4>This is all I can hope for. Like what I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to reinforce the room? I'm getting sand bags next time,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I could.

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell you about sandbags. I can tell you

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<v Speaker 3>sand bag technology didn't have a kind of yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>at least as far as stopping the water to a point.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it just soaks up the water, soaks.

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<v Speaker 3>Up the water and then leaves a muddy stain on

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<v Speaker 3>your floor. And I mean there's so much panicking and

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<v Speaker 3>screaming and wetness that it really nothing really matters. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>once it's in the house, it's like it's very problematic. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>you just collapsed. How do you test for mold? Did you?

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<v Speaker 5>I had somebody come in to just make sure everything

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<v Speaker 5>was okay, what not.

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<v Speaker 3>The probably should get things tested for mold. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like my house is probably just full of dangerous.

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<v Speaker 5>And get some little sprays just spray away. Yeah, spray they.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's hiding somewhere in my house and

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<v Speaker 3>affecting everything I do.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, mold's probably everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>It's probably it's very sneaky, so sneaky. A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>things are damp.

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<v Speaker 4>So many things are damp, and the mosquitoes are just

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<v Speaker 4>in there, like everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Baby, you know, let me ask you this. Did you

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<v Speaker 3>have mosquitos in your house this year? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>They they hang around It wasn't you know. I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>at a place where I don't even leave the windows.

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<v Speaker 4>I have screens in all the windows. I don't leave

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<v Speaker 4>my doors open, right, don't want to do Like if

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<v Speaker 4>one mosquitoes in the house, I feel more panic than

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<v Speaker 4>if it's going to rain for three days. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just like, is it in the room? Like I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>is it in the room when I sleep I wake up?

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<v Speaker 4>I got like four things just like I really do

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<v Speaker 4>it for like man, Like you see one and then

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<v Speaker 4>you see it and it goes away.

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<v Speaker 3>You're just like, oh my god, you're chasing it around

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<v Speaker 3>the house. We had a fly in our bedroom and

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<v Speaker 3>my boyfriend would not go to sleep until we had

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<v Speaker 3>caught it. So it was like an hour before we

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<v Speaker 3>went back to bed. And there's a good chance you're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to catch the fly. They're getting away.

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<v Speaker 5>They're very good.

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<v Speaker 3>I finally have a fly. I got a fly sweater

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<v Speaker 3>on this podcast. They help. They're very useful. I want

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<v Speaker 3>one of those little zappy.

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<v Speaker 5>Ones, like the carry around zappy.

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<v Speaker 3>They're incredible. I want to say so manufactured them. We

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<v Speaker 3>had one when I was a kid and my brother

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<v Speaker 3>would hit me with it, so it was more of

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<v Speaker 3>like a torture device. Okay, but you know it's like

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<v Speaker 3>a swater, but it also zaps, so you're getting a

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<v Speaker 3>real kill power op. Yeah yeah, but uh, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the first year we had like as we didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>a ton of mosquitos in the house, but they were

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<v Speaker 3>getting it and people other friends have been like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we had mosquitos in the house in the five years

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<v Speaker 3>ago there. I don't think there were mosquitos in any city.

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<v Speaker 5>There weren't any. There weren't any.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know what their next step is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be. Where do you go over?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>They're going to be running property, yes, moving in next

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<v Speaker 4>to just like a million mosquitoes in a man made

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<v Speaker 4>mosquito suit.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>You're competing with mosquitoes to buy property. The housing market

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<v Speaker 3>is getting.

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<v Speaker 5>Worse than really brutal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a tough situation. The water, we've got to

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<v Speaker 3>just like even it out one like the rain once

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<v Speaker 3>a month.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, that'll be nice.

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<v Speaker 3>I wottle break.

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<v Speaker 4>If I would say, if I could say, a perfect

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<v Speaker 4>amount for me per month, give me a weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh a nice RAINI weekend, bring out the tea.

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<v Speaker 4>I sometimes just to sit in my door, sit at

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<v Speaker 4>my door on the inside right, crack it open and

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<v Speaker 4>just listen to those rain drops.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes me feel nice. Let me get to that

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<v Speaker 3>place to feel peace with the rain. My god.

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<v Speaker 4>I hated in Vancouver couldn't stand because it was just

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<v Speaker 4>like relentless.

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<v Speaker 5>Its like NonStop, four straight weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>Every day it rains and you're just like, oh my,

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<v Speaker 4>And in season of depression, I realized was very real

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<v Speaker 4>when I was out there.

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<v Speaker 3>How much of the year were you there?

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<v Speaker 4>Ten months a year? Oh, loot of the summer month?

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<v Speaker 4>Like I would get there and you wish you were

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<v Speaker 4>there in June julack because it's like the nature is

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<v Speaker 4>so beautiful, the city really comes alive.

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<v Speaker 5>You can like bite the sea wall.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really dope, and you can do whistler and stuff

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<v Speaker 4>in the winter, but it just rains so much, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was just like, man, I can't catch a break

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<v Speaker 4>every day.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm wet every day i'n wet.

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<v Speaker 3>Devastating. Would you do anything to combat the depression?

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<v Speaker 5>I came back to La a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>I traveled a lot to La I was like, get

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<v Speaker 4>some sunshine, lord.

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<v Speaker 3>What I mean? I do want to visit Vancouver. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a wonderful place.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a beautiful place.

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<v Speaker 4>It really is that I'm not no shots in the

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<v Speaker 4>Vancouver Listener's like, but do you get it?

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<v Speaker 3>They know it.

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<v Speaker 5>Two hundred and sixty five days a year on average.

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<v Speaker 3>That is incredible. Yeah, yeah, it's so bizarre. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>even imagine. I grew up in a desert now I

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<v Speaker 3>live in a desert. It's like I just don't understand weather.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, but maybe I.

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<v Speaker 3>Need to experience it at some point two hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>sixty five days so much. Did you buy galoshes? No?

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I just had like some boots I bought off sneakers app.

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<v Speaker 4>But I was like just I was like, what's Nike's

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<v Speaker 4>version of Range?

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<v Speaker 3>I get these? What is their version of a range?

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<v Speaker 5>Like a kind of duck build?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, yeah, it's like pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 4>They have a few different versions, and it's like it's

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<v Speaker 4>not like fully rain proof, but it's like it's like

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<v Speaker 4>rain repellent.

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<v Speaker 3>Like more so than a basketball snake. Yes, yes, more so,

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<v Speaker 3>but you could probably still play basketball, and you could.

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<v Speaker 4>That might be a little icy because the bottoms are

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<v Speaker 4>like grip. They have good grip for the slippery even

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<v Speaker 4>though they were a slippery shoes.

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<v Speaker 3>More that thought they would be good.

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<v Speaker 4>But I was like, there were so many times I'm

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<v Speaker 4>like almost eight ship with these fucking dug bills.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, the bottoms just is it like a rubber, rubber. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but it feels like a design all. Yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't weather them anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you got to get more of a sand paper

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<v Speaker 3>thing or something happening. Sandpaper shoes not a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always coming up with ideas, looking for the next

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<v Speaker 3>big thing. Sandpaper shoes. We've got to talk about something else.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to talk to you about something. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 3>was really excited to have you on the podcast. Thank you, thrilled.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw the email echo wonderful. We're going to have

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<v Speaker 3>a great time. What could possibly go wrong? The podcast

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<v Speaker 3>is called I said no gifts, and yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 3>was a little surprised. I'll say I was thrown when

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<v Speaker 3>I've walked out to my driveway and you were getting

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<v Speaker 3>out of your car and you were holding what was

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<v Speaker 3>clearly a gift for me. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know even what to say at this point. It

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<v Speaker 3>is a little disrespectful. I I agree to that, and

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<v Speaker 3>I am.

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<v Speaker 4>Apologetic for I come from a place of ass for forgiveness.

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<v Speaker 4>Not sure, not in everything, not in everything, in a

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<v Speaker 4>very select few things.

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<v Speaker 3>Podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I waserve for podcasts. I'm going to ask for forgiven.

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<v Speaker 4>So I hope you can forgive me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm learning about you and this is something i'm learning,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's fine. Yeah, I mean the gift is here, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's yeah. I mean while you're here, it's here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I would feel uncomfortable opening it after all. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>Well we'll open it here on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>It here, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>It's some of this gorgeous best.

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<v Speaker 5>Beautiful Christmas theme.

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<v Speaker 3>Back, very wintry.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say, white is the driven snow with silver

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<v Speaker 4>hints of of missiletoes and other Christmas type of plants.

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<v Speaker 5>More other Christmas plants.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm pulling it out.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, oh wow. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So the first thing I noticed I pulled out a

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<v Speaker 3>book that is bound on the right side rather than

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<v Speaker 3>the left.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, bound on the right, So I.

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<v Speaker 3>Immediately knew it wasn't an American published books, not an

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<v Speaker 3>American poet. English, I suppose, yes, yes, or English? Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, or let's see. Okay, so it is printed English,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's.

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<v Speaker 4>It's pritted in English, but it's a Japanese manga, which

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<v Speaker 4>is their version of comic books. Rightly, and you read

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<v Speaker 4>the opposite side of where we read. We read from

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<v Speaker 4>left right.

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<v Speaker 3>They read from right to left, right, and it's chainsaw Man.

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<v Speaker 5>It's called chainsaw Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, it's just to me, it's just a fantastic series.

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<v Speaker 4>Satsuki Fuji Fujimoto, yes, is the creator. He also created

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<v Speaker 4>this series called fire Punch. But Chainsaw Man, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it was a slow burn for me. But I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's so fun. I've really enjoyed it, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's a story.

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<v Speaker 5>That you could enjoy.

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<v Speaker 4>It really relate to I really relate to. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>love anime too. It's just very funny. I've had a

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<v Speaker 4>kind of an anime reawakening in life. I was into

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<v Speaker 4>a big time as a kid, and recently it's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of become some of the only like TV that I

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<v Speaker 4>watch or mangas that are or comics that I read

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<v Speaker 4>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I will say it's interesting to hear something

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<v Speaker 3>called Chainsaw Man described as a slow burn.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like, yeah, like as a series. So there's

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<v Speaker 4>right now, there's thirteen books. This is one which has

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<v Speaker 4>houses multiple comics like actual comics of.

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<v Speaker 3>How they like it, basically multiple episodes, yes, basically.

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<v Speaker 4>Multiple episodes or chapters. They call each comic a chapter.

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<v Speaker 4>Each book has about like five chapters in it, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And then but then there are thirteen books, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a lot of lot. What a journey Chainsaw Man

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<v Speaker 3>is a journey?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it kind of You can stop at book eleven

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<v Speaker 4>if you want and get a complete story of the

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<v Speaker 4>arc that's happening from Chainsawmn book one to eleven if

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<v Speaker 4>you want, And then book twelve kind of resets a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit and starts and you see other tertiary characters

0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 4>and all these other people kind of have a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of time in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Light soft three boots sort of situation.

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<v Speaker 5>Even though Chainsaw Man is still very prevalent.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Chainsaw Like the thirteen books, what span of time

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<v Speaker 3>were they published over?

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<v Speaker 4>Two thousand and eight to twenty twenty The first eleven

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<v Speaker 4>and book twelve on out have started coming out since

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, so it's been around for a minute.

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<v Speaker 5>It's been around, Yeah, almost like almost six years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, tell me about who tell me about Chainsaw Man

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<v Speaker 3>as a man?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So Chainsaw Man stars this character named Dingy. He

0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:51.399
<v Speaker 4>is this kind of down on his luck vagrant. His

0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:54.240
<v Speaker 4>father died when he was young and his debts got

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<v Speaker 4>passed to his father.

0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:56.879
<v Speaker 5>His father owed death to the Yakuza.

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<v Speaker 4>And so in this world there are these monsters called devils,

0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:06.800
<v Speaker 4>but they inhabit every detail of everything in our life.

0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:11.200
<v Speaker 4>So for instance, tomato devil, gun devil, blood devil.

0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:14.520
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, darkness devil.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yes, tomato devil is one of the first devils

0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:19.320
<v Speaker 4>you'll see inside.

0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:20.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm not even kidding.

0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:22.680
<v Speaker 5>And it's so, but it creates. They create this stuff like.

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<v Speaker 4>Based on human things essentially, or I don't know, tomatoes

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<v Speaker 4>are human thing, it's it's ivering human.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, inhabit each of these things.

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<v Speaker 4>They're the gods of whatever these things are, essentially. And he,

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<v Speaker 4>to pay off his debt to the Yakuza, is hired

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<v Speaker 4>as a devil hunter. He makes friends with this pet

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<v Speaker 4>chainsaw creature named Pachita. I think that might be there

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:55.840
<v Speaker 4>will be, and they're betrayed by the Yakuza. The Yacuza

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<v Speaker 4>kills him and like gut some like and kills the

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<v Speaker 4>chainsaw to kills a chainsaw dog. But as as he

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<v Speaker 4>is dead, his blood like cure devils.

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:06.439
<v Speaker 5>They need human blood.

0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:09.280
<v Speaker 4>So as he's dead, some of his blood drips into

0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:13.800
<v Speaker 4>the chainsaw dog's mouth and devils can make contracts with humans. Okay,

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 4>so they can make a deal. And then he says,

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<v Speaker 4>I will become your heart. Just give me your dreams,

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<v Speaker 4>and Dingy says yes, and he thus it becomes chainsaw

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<v Speaker 4>Man and.

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<v Speaker 3>His dream is to become a man with a chainsaw

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<v Speaker 3>for ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it is it is a current dream, it's

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 4>a it's a living dream he has essentially, But you

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<v Speaker 4>know it it has a slow burn because sometimes his

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<v Speaker 4>reasoning for wanting to go forward and do it is like,

0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:41.639
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, that's your reason. It can feel like a

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<v Speaker 4>little child or some in some ways. But I think

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<v Speaker 4>the reason why I say it has a slow burn

0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:48.760
<v Speaker 4>is you start to realize why he feels this way.

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:50.439
<v Speaker 4>Like it feels like I was like, man, this artist

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:52.840
<v Speaker 4>just was like I'm gonna do something weird. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>like I.

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<v Speaker 5>Was like, what did he do this for?

0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:57.000
<v Speaker 4>But it actually started to make sense tomorrow I read

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<v Speaker 4>it and it started to become like a decent driver,

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<v Speaker 4>right right, Dingy to push forward. But it's really great,

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:03.480
<v Speaker 4>a lot of great characters.

0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:05.840
<v Speaker 3>And does he still have a dog companion?

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:08.240
<v Speaker 4>The dog lives in his heart now, so the dog

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:11.400
<v Speaker 4>becomes his heart. It is his heart. It is his

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:17.640
<v Speaker 4>new heart. He has a chainsaw string whenever he needs

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 4>to switch to chainsaw man to do devil fighting.

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 5>He's a human being.

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:25.000
<v Speaker 4>He does go about, he gets he can date, he

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<v Speaker 4>can do this stuff. He gets hired by this group

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:29.720
<v Speaker 4>of devil hunters or government run group of devil hunters.

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:33.439
<v Speaker 4>Each nation has their own group, right, But devils are

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 4>like constantly their humanity's biggest threat, right, So they're trying

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 4>to eradicate the devils of the world so that humans

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 4>can live in peace.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to get a peek at him as a person, Yeah,

0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:46.080
<v Speaker 3>get a peek. Is this him? Yeah? And that's the

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:46.439
<v Speaker 3>dog yea.

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 4>I was right, cut cut such And there's so much

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:55.680
<v Speaker 4>you learned about this dog and what it means and

0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 4>happens later. I dare not spoil it for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very rests. Yeah, there's a lot of like kind

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:05.520
<v Speaker 3>of scary things, but also some very cute monsters. Yeah, yeah, okay,

0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:06.880
<v Speaker 3>And it looks like there's some romance.

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<v Speaker 5>There's some romance. Oh, there is some romance.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're really into manga and anime. Yeah, do you

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:16.400
<v Speaker 3>have like a number one favorite?

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:18.920
<v Speaker 4>My number one favorite right now is Demon Slayer. Okay,

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 4>Demon Slayer, I think is just absolutely fantastic. The story

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:29.920
<v Speaker 4>is gripping, it's also brutal, it's beautiful, it's heart wrenching.

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 3>And this is an anime or manga.

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:35.919
<v Speaker 4>It's both well anime spawn from mangah, right, so they

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 4>usually have So Demon Slayer had a run. They did

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 4>it like a twenty six chapter run, and now they're

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 4>catching up and building up the anime to be all

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:45.200
<v Speaker 4>the chapters of the run.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I I obviously love a lot of anime movies. Yeah,

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean a Zaki movies, all these things. But I've

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<v Speaker 3>never watched an anime TV show. I know, because there

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 3>are a billion of them, so many. Where do you begin?

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:56.399
<v Speaker 5>There?

0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:59.199
<v Speaker 4>There are some I think right now we're kind of

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:03.159
<v Speaker 4>in a really great error for me personally. An anime

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:07.359
<v Speaker 4>like Demon Slayer is a really great one, ju Jitsu

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:09.120
<v Speaker 4>Kaizen is a really great one.

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 5>Chainsaw Man Heal's Paradise.

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:14.159
<v Speaker 4>I think these are like some really phenomenal stories that

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:16.400
<v Speaker 4>also talk about the human experience.

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 3>And on the way.

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 4>UH deal with love and loss and and they also

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:22.640
<v Speaker 4>have a lot of kick ass action and like dope

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:23.160
<v Speaker 4>fights and.

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<v Speaker 3>Pictures, and you're reading the opposite direction which is a

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<v Speaker 3>novelty in myself.

0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 4>You're getting those you're getting that credit on your Apple

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 4>reading daily limit lists as well, and that way.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what this is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeh, So I have like a reading limit that I

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 4>want to hit every day, just make sure that I'm reading,

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:43.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, so I have my just literally said it

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 4>like five minutes a day, sive minutes a day, like

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 4>nothing crazy, but I read.

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 5>I try to read every day.

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:50.880
<v Speaker 3>And then do you get onto the app and tell

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<v Speaker 3>it you read this?

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 4>You know you got you hit your goal today or

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:55.479
<v Speaker 4>you hit your yearly goal, just like let you know,

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 4>like you've read a lot this month, but we managed you.

0:26:58.280 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like but you like, you have to tell

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 3>it or it does How does it said?

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:04.199
<v Speaker 5>I think in books you have to say it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah yeah, So are you reading most of your

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:10.439
<v Speaker 3>stuff on an ips on my iPad? Now it's beginning

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 3>to make sense.

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 5>I read most of it on iPad?

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 5>Oh yes, that's exactly.

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking, like, how does the phone know?

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 4>Well, I would have given you a iPad it on it.

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:22.119
<v Speaker 5>It's just the budget was a little cure.

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<v Speaker 3>That'll be you didn't want the.

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<v Speaker 4>Gift and I didn't want to go that big or

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 4>you didn't want it.

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 3>You knew you were experience, you were pushing the rules anyway.

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 3>You didn't want an enormous fight.

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:32.360
<v Speaker 5>It would be big, big time fight.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, I on my kindle. I don't

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:38.120
<v Speaker 3>know if it tracks reading prog or like how much

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:40.120
<v Speaker 3>you're doing a day. I should look into that. I'd

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 3>like something kind of nagging me to read.

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I feel like as a gamer, I'm like, of course,

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 5>like sweet, I read.

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 3>I read forty minutes this week. Yeah, I mean that

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 3>will do the trick with basically anything at this point

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 3>is just making it a game.

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 4>I wish we could see the minutes of our lives

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 4>that we spent doing stuff all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Could you. I'm actually I anything to do with that number.

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't want anyone seeing it. I would I think

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 3>I would just collapse upon looking at it.

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 5>But would it? Would it make you adjust some things?

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:22.919
<v Speaker 3>Probably not, let's be honest. Yeah, yeah, if you were

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 3>looking at that number, what would your guests be? Like

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 3>the highest number of minutes that like you've spent doing.

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 5>Something doing something?

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you've got to lay out of your life say.

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 4>Video games. Okay, probably because or I mean sleep probably

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 4>is the number one. Sure, but video games as like

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 4>just a thing that I choose to do that I

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 4>don't have to do to exist.

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 5>I think that would be number. That's always been like my.

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 3>First love and passion growing up.

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 4>So I racked up a ton of hours as a kid,

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 4>of course, but then, you know, I think it's a

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 4>way for me to decompress because my life can be

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 4>pretty busy sometimes and so it's just nice to just

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 4>like take a step back and just play a game,

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 4>be a character or whatever.

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 3>What video games are you playing as a kid?

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I mean you know Mario Brothers, Selda Great teen Years,

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 4>Metal Gear Solid, you know, so Golden Eyes, so many.

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 4>I was, I was playing all the console games going on.

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 4>We had Kaliko Vision It's sorry twenty six hundred, four

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 4>hundred totograph of sixteen say Genesis Sega and it's I

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 4>mean we ran a gam.

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's incredible, And you're still playing What sort of

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 3>games are you playing now?

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 5>Right now?

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm obsessed with this game called Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven.

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I haven't familiar.

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they have a great animate to that too.

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 4>I haven't watched it yet though because I don't have Netflix,

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 4>But they have an amazing game that came out three

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 4>years ago, but they totally blew it when they they

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 4>rushed it out.

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was kind of in the news as a disasters.

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 4>Interesting to watch, and it's very sad because it is

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 4>a phenomenal game, not that they've taken the time two

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 4>years to update everything right, fixed the game, fixed the game,

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 4>and it's a fantastic game. So it's just it's sad

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 4>that they rushed it when they really had a banger

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 4>on their hands.

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 3>So this game, you're basically it's just the future and

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 3>you're kind of just running around doing whatever you want.

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're doing missions as a kind of like you're

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 4>you're kind of a hired gun initially, and then one

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 4>event changes the trajectory of your entire life and you

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 4>have to like figure things out in a really big way.

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 3>What is the event if he dies?

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 4>The event is he dies, then he's rebooted. He installs

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 4>a chip right before he dies, and then is rebooted.

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.479
<v Speaker 4>His neural pathways rebooted by the chip when he dies,

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 4>and now there's a timer on your life before the

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 4>chip completely takes over your whole brain.

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 5>And then the rest of it.

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 4>It's actually so cool because the whole first act you

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 4>think it's this one thing, you and your buddy and

0:30:57.720 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 4>like you're like getting into the ship and you're like

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 4>oh yeah, and then it completely changes. You're like whoa

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 4>and me either.

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 5>I tried it.

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 4>When the first came out, I was like whatever, whatever.

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 4>I was like, Keanu reads is in his how I

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 4>don't know, I've seen him. And then that even happens

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 4>and every player, everybody who thought were big initially, they're

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 4>all dead. Everyone's fucking dead. Is like dramatic, and you

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 4>have to pick up the pieces. Yeah, he's in your head.

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 4>He's the virus that's taken over your brain to essentially

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 4>replace you to be he will use your body as

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 4>his vessel.

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<v Speaker 3>Essentially die to have ke take over our bodies. Yeah,

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 3>I would trust him, trust take over. And I assume

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 3>you want to want to watch inside, So what what

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 3>what do you mean watching?

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 4>You're in his brain and this consciousness, but you can't

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 4>do anything, you can't make movements.

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 5>You just like a kind of loan for the ride.

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 3>I would love it to just lay back and let

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<v Speaker 3>somebody else do it everything for me.

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 4>But you can say you're in his brain like consciousness,

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 4>like hey man, what if that's like what's really happening

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<v Speaker 4>to us?

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<v Speaker 5>Like we died.

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 4>They would just go into each other's consciousness and I'm

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 4>like this, dude, don't listen, like I don't.

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Don't go there. Oh just short this idiot, you're dad,

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 3>You're dead.

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 5>And they come up like what I tried to tell you.

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 3>There's a good chance that's happening. We don't know. There

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 3>might be somebody in my head right now. That is

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely I mean, they gave up a long time, like,

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 3>oh this is.

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 5>All now you get it. So now you get it.

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 5>I'm too done. I'm too dune.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, so okay, so I'm now just trying to clarify.

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 3>So you're the guy, but Keano's in your head, yes, okay.

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 5>And you can see Keano.

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 4>He manifests himself physically to you, but no one else.

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 5>Can see him.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, what a delight.

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 4>It's really cool. It's actually very cool how they did that.

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 4>And how I just shift from act on the act

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 4>too is just completely shift and you're like, whoa.

0:32:57.960 --> 0:32:59.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think i've ever really been surprised by

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 3>video game like that.

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's always just kind of like this is what

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 3>you're doing and you'll be doing it for fifty hours.

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, which is fine.

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmmmm hmm.

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:13.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a really fun game. CD Project Read Wichard

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 4>three is like one of my favorite.

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<v Speaker 5>Games of all time.

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, the fact that they finally got this and right,

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, wow they are. If they can just release

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 4>stuff when it's ready, they could be one of them.

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 5>They could be like another rock Star.

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<v Speaker 3>That's an interesting new part of video games that we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't used to have to deal with was video games

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 3>being released as just a not finished product.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 3>When you know the Nintendo sixty four or whatever, you

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 3>would just the game that was the game that you bought,

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 3>and there weren't downloads or anything. Just kind of nice, right,

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 3>But I guess if they if you've got a bad game,

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 3>it was just forever.

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 4>True true true, But maybe it made them put more

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<v Speaker 4>into not making bad games.

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, you have to get it right.

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 4>There, it's a very like we'll fix it in post,

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 4>we'll fix it post for the release, we'll fix it.

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Wow, just send out a product like imagine doing

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 3>that with a movie. Here's the unfinished movie. But wait

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Cats Cats?

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Cats was the first first I was like, this

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 5>is wow.

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 3>That's not finished. It needed software up there.

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 5>It was very interesting.

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:17.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, wow, Cats is a that's a good call. That

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 3>movie was.

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 4>There was some rough moments everyone's enjoyment.

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, rough situation.

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 5>Looked like he was just naked and I was like,

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 5>what is happening?

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:33.439
<v Speaker 3>All of those people was blackmailed into doing that film

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 3>or something happened.

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:37.319
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, how who convinced to.

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:39.360
<v Speaker 3>I guess.

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 4>I guess was not Andrew Lloyd Webber himself could go

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 4>walk into someone's home and convinced you did do Cats

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 4>the movie, But somehow someone did well.

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 3>But let's be honest. If Cats came knocking for me,

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:53.799
<v Speaker 3>for anybody, if Cats came knocking for me, I would say,

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 3>get me in the suit, get me with Dame Judy.

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.800
<v Speaker 4>If Cats came knocking for me, I'm like, Tellico Cats

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 4>and Cat, jelgo Cat. Of course I used to know

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 4>that whole song too, Jelica Cats. I was I knew

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 4>every Cat's part.

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Were you ever in Cats?

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 5>No? I would like a kid, you know.

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 4>Honestly, my first time ever seeing Cats was cast the

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:15.359
<v Speaker 4>music of the movie.

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:16.399
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, the.

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:18.360
<v Speaker 4>First time I ever seeing I never even heard jelical

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:20.880
<v Speaker 4>cats before. I mean I've heard of cast like Simpsons

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 4>made fun of Cats. I mean it's been a person

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 4>whenever that stuff. I've never seen the musical music.

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 3>I didn't.

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 5>I didn't get into musicals into twenty twelve.

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 4>So my first one was Book of Mormons. Yeah, I

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 4>saw where Andrew Reynolds and Josh gat and they blew

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 4>me away.

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 5>I was like, this, this is what musicals can be.

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 4>Big Matt Stone and Trey Parker for I was like,

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, I gotta see it. And since then

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:48.279
<v Speaker 4>I've become completely obsessed, obsessed, obsessed, obsessed. So when I

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, this comeing to me movies, I was like, oh,

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:51.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, this probably be my only chance to really

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:54.320
<v Speaker 4>see it. Right, So I was like, I'm going to

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 4>ask these girls, like, let's go see a movie this

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 4>go day. I was like, oh, Cats is all. I was like,

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 4>let's go see a musical. She's like, Okay, this is

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 4>really funny. She's like okay, She's like, are you gay.

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:06.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm like no, I just like what am I doing

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:08.919
<v Speaker 3>that could possibly seem gay. But I also like, who

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 3>are you dating?

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:13.359
<v Speaker 4>Where someone wanted to see a musical means that, like,

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 4>it's just football players, not just like jocks. I can't

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:21.240
<v Speaker 4>like art like Jesus Christ.

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:23.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Cats was truly for everybody.

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 5>It was for everyone. It was for everyone. But we

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 5>enjoyed it. She enjoyed it. I mean we didn't enjoy it.

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.359
<v Speaker 4>It was bad, but we enjoyed going to see it,

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 4>like it was like it was nice to watch the

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:34.880
<v Speaker 4>train Wreck, you know.

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:38.319
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I don't know that in any medium that

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 3>anyone's first experience with Cats is like, oh, what an

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 3>incredible show?

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 5>No way?

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, even on stage, it's like, no, this is a thing,

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 3>a very odd thing that's happening. Yeah, so why not

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 3>have it be a CG nightmare?

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Why not? Do you think they should do it practical?

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh? I would love a practical. That should be a

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 3>song for the musical practical.

0:36:58.440 --> 0:36:59.760
<v Speaker 5>Stagelical Cats practical.

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh my god, Andrew start writing.

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:08.720
<v Speaker 4>I would listen to Jellico Cats on repeat every morning

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 4>in the pandemic, like the first.

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 3>Of what was going on? I should ask are you gay?

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.839
<v Speaker 5>But I was just obsessed. I learned the whole song.

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 4>I would just sing it in like I was thinking

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 4>of pandemic seriously. So I wasn't leaving home except to

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 4>go grocery shopping, and I might I was kind of

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 4>having the time of life too, because like it was

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 4>just me and my friends were just like playing a

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 4>lot more video games because there was nothing else.

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:36.800
<v Speaker 3>To do, to do nothing, yeah or mere.

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:42.280
<v Speaker 4>Friends would just watch movies together over like FaceTime or whatever, Netflix,

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 4>watch parties and stuff like that.

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 5>But I just saw Cats had just come out time.

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 3>Winter of nineteen. Yeah, yeah, first sign.

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, something was wrong, something was about, something was about

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 4>to happen, but it just was somehow it just became

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 4>my theme. Whenever I will up, I would just bump

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:06.839
<v Speaker 4>Jellicle Cats like on good speakers and just fucking sing it.

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:09.759
<v Speaker 5>I have videos of it. I was just I never released.

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:10.879
<v Speaker 4>Them because I was like, people don't need to see

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 4>me like this, but I was loving it.

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's great. It was that that like on the

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 3>soundtrack or did you put that in a playlist? What

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 3>was the next song that? Okay?

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:24.399
<v Speaker 4>Oh, so I would go from that to like Wis

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 4>Khalifa's Outer Space Transition, you know. Yeah, so those were

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 4>on heavy repeat.

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 5>During the pandemic, the early pandemic day.

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:38.880
<v Speaker 3>I feel like Cats is probably full of good samples

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 3>for rap.

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I'm sure.

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if anybody's ever sampled Cats.

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:45.439
<v Speaker 4>Maybe there needs to be a Cat album, a Cat

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 4>sampled album.

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.959
<v Speaker 3>If I mean there, it's there for the and it's ripe,

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 3>it's right. Yeah, of course, I wonder if you moved back,

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 3>you're now, I mean, you are in full sunlight. Look

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 3>at this.

0:38:56.040 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 4>This is better now, just crossed underneath the.

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.280
<v Speaker 3>The echo is uncomfortable, physically suffering.

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 5>No, you know, I can take this off, do whatever

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 5>you want to do, because.

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 3>I have an under I have a little This is

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 3>a great. Look. Now you're in a really summary Look, okay,

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:16.880
<v Speaker 3>transitions from winter to summer easily.

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 5>This is okay?

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 3>Should we uh we can like rotate this way and

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:24.240
<v Speaker 3>you could go over there. It's I mean, this podcast

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:28.760
<v Speaker 3>is largely about physical movement. It's about in the body. Yeah, yes,

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 3>just being aware of ourselves physically in a space we occupy. Yes,

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 3>so we've now switched positions. Yes, we're talking about Cats.

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 5>Yes.

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:40.000
<v Speaker 3>What other musicals do you like?

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 4>Like, I look, I like a lot of musicals the

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 4>last two year probably was seeing like per years, probably

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:50.280
<v Speaker 4>seeing like forty musicals or plays.

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Forty yeah four zero, like the.

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 4>Whole I would see all the musicals wow the season

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:56.359
<v Speaker 4>like in New.

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 3>York, which I move into New York's. I was a bikostal.

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 4>I was back and forth and it was just I

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 4>would see like two music is a week, like just

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 4>I would rush tickets. I would like try to get too.

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:11.320
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't just like sometimes i'd sit in the mezzanine.

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 4>I didn't care, like if I was always in the org.

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:14.359
<v Speaker 4>Especially got to a point where I was I don't

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 4>care about being an extra. I just want to see that.

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:17.840
<v Speaker 4>I just want to see the play or the musical.

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 4>But one of my favorite most recent plays Strange Loop Oh,

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 4>that was fantastic.

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 3>I mean heard nothing but so good.

0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 4>I think I saw it five times in as run

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 4>because I was just like I just wanted to see,

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 4>you know, a part of like the first three times

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 4>I saw it.

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:35.759
<v Speaker 5>First time, I meant to see it.

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 4>Second time it was just a friend was like, you

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 4>told me about the show, so I said, I got

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 4>a chicken. I was like, hell, yeah, I'll go see it.

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 4>And then the third time, like a friend came into town.

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 4>I was like, what should I see it? I was like,

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:46.919
<v Speaker 4>strange loop, you know what I'm saying. So we went

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 4>and then the thing that happened was I wanted to

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 4>get the entire cast back, so I kept going back

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 4>to see that. It's like collecting yeah, because it was

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 4>like COVID stuff, and some people could so I couldn't

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 4>get those other times the full complete set. So I

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:07.360
<v Speaker 4>was going back to like complete set because they all were.

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 5>So indistinctly phenomenal.

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:13.479
<v Speaker 4>And this is nothing not a shot against the very

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 4>very critical understudies, who were right, of course, fantastic, still

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 4>the top of their game, yes still, but everyone's voice

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 4>the original cast was just so interesting and unique that

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 4>even when there was an understudy, I felt it glaringly

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 4>missing that unique voice.

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Wow, except for the lead.

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 4>The lead Jack kel Spevie was I think that's how

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:43.800
<v Speaker 4>you pronounce his name was absolutely fantastic, and Cal Freeman

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 4>was equally as fantastic. So either one of them, I'm like,

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 4>I'll take either lead. It was just the thoughts the

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 4>other six. I was like, I need to have the original.

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 3>Six And did you eventually get that?

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 5>Nope?

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 3>I never got it again. I never got the full.

0:41:56.680 --> 0:42:01.439
<v Speaker 4>I never got the full because I think Antoine, who

0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:03.800
<v Speaker 4>played Thought five, I think he kind of left toward

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 4>the end.

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 5>He didn't.

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 4>I just I justn't think it was that any of

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:09.120
<v Speaker 4>the shows really. I didn't see him posting about it anymore.

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 4>So I don't really know how they're internally there. I

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 4>think there was something, let's just be honest.

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:15.839
<v Speaker 5>So then he didn't come back.

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:17.960
<v Speaker 4>My last two times I didn't see him, and I

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 4>was just like, oh man, because he just had and

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, I miss Jason Veasley one time and he

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 4>just brought so much, Like just each one of them

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 4>was just like.

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:32.880
<v Speaker 3>You are absolutely perfect for these parts.

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 4>And if if there's even a little at it, I

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:39.719
<v Speaker 4>just felt like you they weren't have to fuel fire,

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:42.320
<v Speaker 4>even though it's still an amazing show, Like Michael Jackson

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 4>wrote a fantastic show.

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 5>The music is a banger. We want to know. My

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:48.840
<v Speaker 5>favorite one when the parents like was having in New

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 5>York so good.

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 4>I love that, I really love I mean, ain't no

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 4>mo was great though we got a three three week,

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 4>four week one, but I got to see it on

0:42:57.120 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 4>this last night. Just crazy. I saw everything I saw thing.

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:01.800
<v Speaker 4>The minutes was a fantastic play.

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, yeah, we're getting into territory and like

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 3>I haven't.

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:06.160
<v Speaker 4>Heard oh my god, yeah this this is like kind

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 4>of a deep cut. I didn't expect that. I'm just like, oh,

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:10.680
<v Speaker 4>I guess I should see something. I was like around, like, oh,

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 4>what happen to say? I haven't seen the minute? Let

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 4>me see this, and it blew me away. It was

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 4>just like a town having a meeting about town business,

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 4>Like they're just like the city council. Oh, and them

0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 4>trying to they're taking the minutes in a minute, and

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 4>then it just turned.

0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:27.640
<v Speaker 5>To all this crazy deceit.

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:30.480
<v Speaker 4>It's like it's like zig when it's I was like

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 4>I was expecting a whole another thing. And then by

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:35.360
<v Speaker 4>the end, they're all dripping blood from their mouth because

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 4>they're like some type of cult and it's like saying

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 4>it now like this sounds insane, but in.

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:45.439
<v Speaker 5>The show was like, how the way when did this more?

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, it has been It's like you realize like,

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, I've been on this journey and holy shit,

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 4>you motherfuckers are wild.

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:54.719
<v Speaker 3>Keano is in one of those people's heads.

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 4>He's in one of their heads. He's definitely a construct

0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:58.680
<v Speaker 4>in their heads. I've literally seen.

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 3>You should become a critic, like a secret critic.

0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 4>I think a part part of my problem is that

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 4>sometimes I'm just like, oh, I like.

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 5>Everything, Like I like, I really enjoyed that. That was cool.

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 5>So I'm like, oh, I don't know if I would

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 5>be able to be tough enough.

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:13.719
<v Speaker 4>You know, I did see a play out here that

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 4>I left after the second.

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:20.359
<v Speaker 3>Rough, especially when somebody like who truly loves anything walks away,

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was like, oh no, and I wanted to

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:25.359
<v Speaker 4>stay though I had to leave, but because something else.

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 4>But I was like, but it was just so bad.

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:30.760
<v Speaker 4>It was like to me, it was like if chat

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 4>GPT two not even four was told to write a

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:37.359
<v Speaker 4>play about black trauma.

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, and every trope was in this play. It

0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:43.359
<v Speaker 3>was like just checking off a list.

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Gay Sons was to be a basketball player, was

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 4>paid by a dand sister who died, and the horrible

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:53.360
<v Speaker 4>thing that happened with the kids, brother in jail, Daddy

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 4>having a fair on mama. Mama schizophrenia dying from her

0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 4>brain disease. Auntie, I was asking Daddy on Mama, you.

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 3>Know what I'm saying.

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 5>I was just like one or two.

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:06.839
<v Speaker 4>Now, No, I'm like, dude, you're like throwing every single trope.

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 5>Of black trauma into this play, and it's impurating me.

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 3>At least call it out.

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 4>It was just I was like, there was like parts

0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 4>where it's like he's mad and it's like the drums

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:17.520
<v Speaker 4>are sitting there.

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:19.240
<v Speaker 5>I was like, he bet and I played them drums.

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 4>He better not, but I'm like, no, stop it.

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:26.400
<v Speaker 3>It was just like everything.

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 6>I was like, like, there was one part where I mean,

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:32.800
<v Speaker 6>my friend too, she's a big Broadway person too. We

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 6>like saw plays out in New York, so we were

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:37.800
<v Speaker 6>excited for this one. And I remember the part where

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:40.800
<v Speaker 6>the brother's in jail, the sun is gay pussy a

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:43.760
<v Speaker 6>basketball player but wants to play ballet, and the brother's

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 6>older friend has been like helping around the house and

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:48.359
<v Speaker 6>blah bah blah. Turns out of course he's having sex

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 6>with the son. Oh sure, right, and so they start

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 6>making out and now we saw this old time.

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 5>I was like, they bet, and I'll start making up.

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:54.840
<v Speaker 5>There they gonna they start making.

0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:57.279
<v Speaker 4>Out and there's two older woman next to me, Like

0:45:57.680 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 4>I did not see that coming be like what say that? Like,

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:06.360
<v Speaker 4>we were just like you got so we just left,

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:08.120
<v Speaker 4>like we gotta go, we gotta go. I was like,

0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 4>oh yeah, I had to go. She we left after

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 4>act one. I convinced her to come back for acting inion.

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:17.879
<v Speaker 4>Well it was three acts rest of all, so Act

0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:19.879
<v Speaker 4>one happened. She was like, I can't do it. We

0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:21.759
<v Speaker 4>have to go act go. I was like what, She's like,

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:23.919
<v Speaker 4>we can't stay in this. I was like, oh man,

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 4>because I'm like I want to stay for the train wreck.

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 4>Act two. I convince her we're having lunch. I was like,

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 4>we gotta go back. Can we just go back, Let's

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:33.279
<v Speaker 4>just go back. She's like, okay, fine, let's go back.

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.400
<v Speaker 5>Act two. We go back. It's even wilder, a lot

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 5>of se just we're like, oh my god. Act three.

0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:40.800
<v Speaker 4>I had to go because I had like an appointment somewhere.

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 4>She stayed for Act three.

0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 3>I had an appointment somewhere. You were planning to not

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:44.320
<v Speaker 3>be at the same anyway.

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 4>I didn't notice it was gonna be like three and

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 4>a half hours long. I think it was the thing

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, oh my god, like I have

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 4>to be five like my Lasik. But she watched the

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 4>third act and then was like the thing happened and

0:46:57.160 --> 0:47:00.160
<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah the boy died blah blah blah blah blah.

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 3>Bad end.

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, oh my god, no, I'm not going

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 4>to say if if you've seen the play, you know

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 4>what play I'm talking about, I'm gonna say the name

0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:07.239
<v Speaker 4>of it.

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 3>But I feel like there are certainly enough details at

0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 3>this point that people know.

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:14.279
<v Speaker 4>At this I was just like, no offense to any

0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 4>people's colors near both was like, a white person have

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 4>to write this. I was like, it just had to

0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 4>be a white person and it was not.

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 3>It was I wrote that play. It was my first player.

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:26.360
<v Speaker 4>I was just like, there's no way, like a black

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:28.359
<v Speaker 4>person would be tone deaf like this.

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god.

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 3>It would have been recommended to you or did you

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 3>just see Literally the friend who recommended me to go

0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 3>see Ain't No Mo, which was brilliantful Broadway, saw this play.

0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 5>And was raving about I saw I saw them posted.

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 3>I was like, is it good? She's like yes.

0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:48.600
<v Speaker 5>I was like, we're done. So her friend and me

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 5>went to go see it.

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 4>Together because we saw her posts were like, let's go

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 4>see it, and we FaceTime her act one, like.

0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 5>What the heck, Like, what's this show? She's like, no,

0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 5>it gets better than I to try to acting was

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 5>even worse to.

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:06.400
<v Speaker 4>Act when I was like whoa anyway, But but you

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:08.799
<v Speaker 4>still got to respect that this person got it made.

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:13.000
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it has a place.

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:15.880
<v Speaker 4>But you know, like I've seen stuff that I'm like

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:17.360
<v Speaker 4>I didn't like, Like, you know, I saw a slave

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:19.399
<v Speaker 4>play and I was like, I don't really like this, like.

0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 5>But it just I just didn't.

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 4>It just made me feel right, But I wasn't like

0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:25.560
<v Speaker 4>visially like I'm not.

0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:26.480
<v Speaker 3>This is horrible.

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:28.879
<v Speaker 4>What I was like, I don't agree with this, this

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 4>isn't but this I was just like, you gotta be

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:35.239
<v Speaker 4>kidding me. You've got to me, yeah, like why are

0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:39.399
<v Speaker 4>you forcing everything? We don't have to deal with every act?

0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh my, and at least get it done in two acts.

0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:44.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, to acts drag me through a third and a

0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:48.960
<v Speaker 4>half hours. Harry Potter and the Blood Moan Prince or

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 4>whatever that new show, The Curse Prince.

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:55.000
<v Speaker 3>You're alter the Blood Moon Prince.

0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 5>I think that actually is real. But I would just

0:48:57.840 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 5>see that.

0:48:58.160 --> 0:49:00.800
<v Speaker 4>On Broadway recently and I was like, oh, let me

0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:02.919
<v Speaker 4>see this, and it's a three hour and forty five.

0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:04.760
<v Speaker 4>I was an hour two, like, man, is this wrapping

0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:07.319
<v Speaker 4>up soon? Like that's a just a dumb I didn't

0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 4>look up the time for it, and I.

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:13.000
<v Speaker 3>Was literally like that doesn't work for me much like.

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.480
<v Speaker 5>I can't do it. I can't see flower kill at

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:18.040
<v Speaker 5>the flower moment I want to see. It's so bad.

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:18.799
<v Speaker 3>I didn't see that.

0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:20.759
<v Speaker 5>Three hours and thirty minutes a long movie.

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:23.040
<v Speaker 3>And I usually my new rule is to leave halfway

0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:25.759
<v Speaker 3>through a three hour movie, regardless of what it is. Yeah,

0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:28.880
<v Speaker 3>but I sat through that. Yeah, but over three hours?

0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:29.920
<v Speaker 3>What are we doing?

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:33.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm gonna watch it. It's coming tomorrow to digital downloads.

0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:35.400
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to see you'll be able to sit still.

0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:37.719
<v Speaker 4>I'll watch like half and then come back the next

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 4>day or something like that.

0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:38.840
<v Speaker 5>Problem.

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:41.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a movie of that length at home will never

0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 3>happen for me. Yeah, yeah, I mean, or it will

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:44.799
<v Speaker 3>take twelve weeks.

0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:46.479
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, makes sense.

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 3>I have to find myself in a theater trapped.

0:49:49.200 --> 0:49:50.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, can't escape if I have.

0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:54.120
<v Speaker 3>Somebody with me, even better, just because some responsibility and

0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:57.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm like got at least say for them. Yeah, because

0:49:57.400 --> 0:49:59.480
<v Speaker 3>three hours is too much, too much, I shouldn't be

0:49:59.480 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 3>able to travel halfway across the country with your movie.

0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:04.319
<v Speaker 3>No way, probably more than a halfway. I mean it's

0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:06.560
<v Speaker 3>a disaster. Yeah, no, it's ninety minutes.

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:11.080
<v Speaker 4>Please, oh two hours in under like my friend, my friend,

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:13.880
<v Speaker 4>even with like no offense, like even with plays and

0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 4>musicals too. I'm like, you do not have to do

0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:19.040
<v Speaker 4>a three hour two forty five. Like, give me two

0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:22.200
<v Speaker 4>hours an under no intermission. Lah, I'm in heaven. I'm

0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:22.600
<v Speaker 4>in heaven.

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:24.440
<v Speaker 3>Incredible. Then you've got the rest of the night.

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:27.200
<v Speaker 4>Ain't no more and strangers, we're both like ninety two

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:29.120
<v Speaker 4>one hundred minutes. I don't know, the blessed. That's not

0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 4>why they were my favorites.

0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:32.440
<v Speaker 3>They were, but it didn't hurt, didn't hurt.

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 4>But that's why I could go see that so many times,

0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:37.719
<v Speaker 4>like because it's like, oh, seven o'clock show them out

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:39.960
<v Speaker 4>by nine, you know what I'm saying. It's like eight

0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 4>o'clock show, out by ten. You go on a weekend

0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:44.120
<v Speaker 4>eight o'clock show, you're out of eleven thirty is.

0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Just like over three hours. That's a once in a

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:50.319
<v Speaker 3>lifetime experience. Yeah, yeah, never to be done again. Yeah, Yeah,

0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:52.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that I've ever rewatched a three hour movie.

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:53.600
<v Speaker 5>I don't think I have.

0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 4>And there's three hours movies I've enjoyed, like Irishman I

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<v Speaker 4>thought was great.

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<v Speaker 5>Oppenheimer I like, but I'm like not chopping at this.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine what world would I sit and watch

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Oppenheimer again? Where I mean body Cast?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no way, that movie should have been two and

0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:10.800
<v Speaker 4>twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Could were. There were a lot of moments when I

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<v Speaker 3>was thinking, didn't need this that.

0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:18.560
<v Speaker 4>Whole, Like last act, I was like, I don't wire.

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<v Speaker 4>I already saw the thing like not care about you

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 4>and Robert Downey Junior's beef.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care. I just don't. Let me give me

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<v Speaker 3>the little text. Yeah, just tell me what happened me please?

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<v Speaker 5>You can say then the text, you know, like a

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<v Speaker 5>yeah text.

0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 3>You know every movie should end with that text. Give

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:40.040
<v Speaker 3>me a little hint to what happened, regardless of what

0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:40.640
<v Speaker 3>sort of movies.

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:41.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah they should.

0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:43.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, even animated movies. I could get into that.

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:45.799
<v Speaker 5>I could get into that. Yeah, I could too.

0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:50.839
<v Speaker 3>I think we should play a game. Okay, I need

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<v Speaker 3>a number between one and ten from you.

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<v Speaker 5>Seven.

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:55.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I have to do some light calculating right now.

0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:58.960
<v Speaker 3>To get our game pieces. You can recommend, promote, talk

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:00.720
<v Speaker 3>to the listener, say what you want.

0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:04.400
<v Speaker 4>Don't forget to find time for yourself and life to

0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:09.600
<v Speaker 4>do the things you love. Hobbies are big time. I'm

0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:12.480
<v Speaker 4>into hobbies. Say help. The monotony of things going on

0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:17.120
<v Speaker 4>in life flow through quite easily. Pick up a camera,

0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:22.280
<v Speaker 4>take a photo, go not hike, find a cool coffee

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:25.320
<v Speaker 4>shop where you can sit and write and just do life.

0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:30.840
<v Speaker 4>Hang out with friends, go see movies, shows, take road trips.

0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:32.960
<v Speaker 4>The surfing lesson is waiting.

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<v Speaker 5>Do it.

0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:38.719
<v Speaker 4>Just follow your passions and life will open up for

0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:42.360
<v Speaker 4>you in so many ways. And do right by yourself,

0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:45.359
<v Speaker 4>your body and your health, and that also will open

0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:47.080
<v Speaker 4>up so many aspects.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean you're a star. You know you

0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 3>could have easily just done a bunch of self promotion.

0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:00.719
<v Speaker 3>You're guiding our listeners in the there and their lives

0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:02.800
<v Speaker 3>are messes. They're all you know.

0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:05.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm imagining that if they keep coming back to a

0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:06.960
<v Speaker 4>place where people are constantly disrespecting you by.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting a gift, they must be Yeah, every one of

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:12.839
<v Speaker 3>them are reck, total wreck. This is how we play

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<v Speaker 3>gift Master. I'm gonna name three celebrities, three people and

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<v Speaker 3>three gifts. You're gonna tell me which gift you would

0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:23.480
<v Speaker 3>give which celebrity and why make perfect sense? Okay? Today,

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<v Speaker 3>the celebrities we have are number one usher, number two

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<v Speaker 3>the predator. So that's uh, we all know the predator.

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:33.520
<v Speaker 3>Household name. Number three, Hillary Swank.

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<v Speaker 5>I know who that is.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's all we need.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Frequently the guest does not even know who the person

0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:41.839
<v Speaker 3>is and I don't either, and that's fine. We don't

0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:44.640
<v Speaker 3>need to know every celebrity. The gifts you're giving are

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<v Speaker 3>number one a healthy habit, so you'll be giving them

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<v Speaker 3>a healthy habit in their life. Number two garbage can,

0:53:51.719 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 3>and number three a down on its luck farm.

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<v Speaker 4>M I'm gonna give the predator a healthy habit because

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:03.480
<v Speaker 4>it's got to be tough to be a predator. It's

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<v Speaker 4>got to be high stress, like even though you're good

0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:09.960
<v Speaker 4>at what you do, like you're hoting in trees all day, it's.

0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:10.640
<v Speaker 3>Got to take a lot on you.

0:54:10.640 --> 0:54:12.000
<v Speaker 4>You got to take a toll on So I hope

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:15.759
<v Speaker 4>he gets a healthy habit, maybe like eating salads every

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<v Speaker 4>once in a while, taking a job. Can you imagine

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<v Speaker 4>a predator just jogging like that would be fun, not just.

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 5>Jogging like hey, Frank.

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<v Speaker 3>Walking through a mall.

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<v Speaker 4>He murdered your wife. He predatored your wife because you

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<v Speaker 4>said they predator him.

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<v Speaker 5>They predatored him.

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<v Speaker 3>The the what is it?

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<v Speaker 5>The open farm?

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<v Speaker 3>Down on its luck farm.

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<v Speaker 4>I would give Usher a down on his luck farm.

0:54:42.440 --> 0:54:44.360
<v Speaker 4>I think Usher needs to pull back from a spotlight

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:46.440
<v Speaker 4>just a little bit. He's in Vegas. He's that that.

0:54:46.560 --> 0:54:48.600
<v Speaker 4>You know, he's just working so much too. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I could have given him a good healthy habit too,

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<v Speaker 4>But I think he needs some down on the farm time.

0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:57.839
<v Speaker 4>He needs to like grow some hay.

0:54:58.080 --> 0:55:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Get he needs to get back to just connect with

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<v Speaker 3>the earth.

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<v Speaker 5>He needs to get get.

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:07.840
<v Speaker 4>A cow, have like four chickens where he's like eating

0:55:08.080 --> 0:55:11.840
<v Speaker 4>eating eggs every day, you know, justly supplying a family.

0:55:13.239 --> 0:55:15.759
<v Speaker 3>She would really appreciate that. I think he would, like

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:18.240
<v Speaker 3>anyone who's like trapped in a casino.

0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:22.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, mega millions NonStop, like he deserves that. And then

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:25.120
<v Speaker 4>the garbage can. I guess I'm gonna give it to

0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:25.920
<v Speaker 4>Hillary Swain.

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<v Speaker 3>Silence after that, I.

0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:35.600
<v Speaker 5>See her face, my head.

0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:36.440
<v Speaker 3>All picture Hillary.

0:55:37.360 --> 0:55:39.200
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, what movie was she she was in?

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Some movie?

0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:42.719
<v Speaker 4>I think like an alien was gonna do something. I

0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:45.480
<v Speaker 4>think I'm not confusing her with Amy Adams.

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:47.319
<v Speaker 3>These are the two things I know she's in. Yeah,

0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:50.520
<v Speaker 3>million Dollar Baby, Yes, that's right. She's a boxer, and

0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:53.360
<v Speaker 3>most recently something called Alaska Daily, which was a drama

0:55:53.400 --> 0:55:56.160
<v Speaker 3>on ABC that I became kind of obsessed with because

0:55:56.239 --> 0:56:00.239
<v Speaker 3>it was a drama on ABC. Oh wow, yeah, very

0:56:00.239 --> 0:56:02.680
<v Speaker 3>fun to watch. Yeah, but those are the two things

0:56:02.760 --> 0:56:03.279
<v Speaker 3>I know her.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're right.

0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:06.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she wasn't million dollar Baby, but a good actor.

0:56:06.200 --> 0:56:09.200
<v Speaker 4>Good actor in that face you said that baby was like, yeah,

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:13.879
<v Speaker 4>that's it. That's what I thought it was. Yeah, she

0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 4>because she probably has like trash that she needs to.

0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Throw out, right, she's probably producing so much, so much

0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:23.319
<v Speaker 3>just opening packages and just trash all of our house,

0:56:23.600 --> 0:56:26.160
<v Speaker 3>like just litter bug all of our house.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's that's the secret. That's the story anyway

0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:34.440
<v Speaker 4>going on about her. Of course I read it onlineal

0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:36.279
<v Speaker 4>litter bug, cereal litter bug.

0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:38.440
<v Speaker 3>This woman will not stop dropping.

0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:40.839
<v Speaker 4>Throw stuff at the trash, but not into it from

0:56:40.880 --> 0:56:44.680
<v Speaker 4>one of her So give her that trash, can Hillary,

0:56:44.680 --> 0:56:48.760
<v Speaker 4>if you're listening, change your ways, yes please?

0:56:49.840 --> 0:56:54.360
<v Speaker 3>That should be her renaissances. Yeah, throwing away garbage, garbage

0:56:54.360 --> 0:56:57.400
<v Speaker 3>in the garbage. She should that'll probably spark some things

0:56:57.400 --> 0:57:03.040
<v Speaker 3>far yeah, yeah, yeah, well beautifully played. Excellent. This is

0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:05.160
<v Speaker 3>the final segment of the podcast. It's called I said

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:08.279
<v Speaker 3>no emails people write into I said no gifts at

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<v Speaker 3>gmail dot com begging for help, desperate as we you know,

0:57:12.400 --> 0:57:15.000
<v Speaker 3>we were talking about, their lives are a disaster. Okay, yeah,

0:57:15.160 --> 0:57:19.160
<v Speaker 3>so people need help, You're confused. They just need advice,

0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:21.400
<v Speaker 3>So well, help me answer a questions? Sure, yeah, all right,

0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:24.400
<v Speaker 3>let's see here. This is deer bridger and well meaning

0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:29.360
<v Speaker 3>but rude guest seems appropriate. I have a philosophical gift

0:57:29.360 --> 0:57:32.080
<v Speaker 3>giving question for you that feels relevant with the winter

0:57:32.160 --> 0:57:34.680
<v Speaker 3>holidays coming up. Well, this is airing in January, so

0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:39.240
<v Speaker 3>but that winter holidays are always coming up. My husband

0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:43.480
<v Speaker 3>and I prefer to give experiences as gifts concerts, theater outings,

0:57:43.520 --> 0:57:46.400
<v Speaker 3>comedy shows, et cetera. But there are a couple things

0:57:46.440 --> 0:57:49.520
<v Speaker 3>that hang me up about these gifts. Number One, if

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<v Speaker 3>you are purchasing two tickets to a concert, are both

0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:55.160
<v Speaker 3>tickets the gift or is only one person's ticket the gift?

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<v Speaker 3>For example, I would spend around two hundred dollars on

0:57:57.680 --> 0:57:59.600
<v Speaker 3>my husband for Christmas. But if one ticket is one

0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:02.480
<v Speaker 3>hundred dollars and we both plan on attending, I've already

0:58:02.520 --> 0:58:06.080
<v Speaker 3>spent that two hundred dollars budget. And number two, how

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:09.000
<v Speaker 3>far ahead of or after a holiday, birthday, et cetera.

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:11.600
<v Speaker 3>Can tickets still be considered a gift for that occasion?

0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:14.320
<v Speaker 3>For example, if I gift someone tickets in December for

0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:17.080
<v Speaker 3>an event in March, is that still considered a Christmas gift?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for your kind consideration, odra A U d

0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:21.320
<v Speaker 3>r A. That's gotta be awesome.

0:58:21.400 --> 0:58:22.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I think that's odre.

0:58:25.160 --> 0:58:27.880
<v Speaker 3>These are good questions, So I actually these are things

0:58:27.880 --> 0:58:29.280
<v Speaker 3>that are that people need to consider.

0:58:29.360 --> 0:58:32.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, people need to consider number For the second part,

0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:35.560
<v Speaker 4>the timing of the gift does matter, even if it's

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:38.120
<v Speaker 4>not a gift you can't cash in till later. If

0:58:38.120 --> 0:58:41.160
<v Speaker 4>you are gifted a gift on Christmas, even though that

0:58:41.280 --> 0:58:43.720
<v Speaker 4>gift might not happen to March, I still think accounts,

0:58:43.800 --> 0:58:46.560
<v Speaker 4>especially if that gift in March is something that you

0:58:46.680 --> 0:58:50.160
<v Speaker 4>want a concert. It's like if I give you Stevie

0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:54.400
<v Speaker 4>Nikkets Stevie Nickas, if I give you Stevie Nickas tickets.

0:58:54.720 --> 0:58:55.720
<v Speaker 3>We all know.

0:58:57.360 --> 0:59:02.880
<v Speaker 4>Stevie Nicklas great artists, and that's still a gift, right, Yes,

0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:04.920
<v Speaker 4>as long as it's not like something for me.

0:59:05.160 --> 0:59:05.320
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:07.240
<v Speaker 5>But because now that goes back to the first question.

0:59:07.400 --> 0:59:09.600
<v Speaker 3>But let's let's focus on this for a moment, because

0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:13.280
<v Speaker 3>but like, what if the what if whatever, the Stevie

0:59:13.360 --> 0:59:18.520
<v Speaker 3>Nicketts and Fleetwood back are performing in August and you

0:59:18.560 --> 0:59:19.200
<v Speaker 3>give it on Christmas.

0:59:19.440 --> 0:59:21.600
<v Speaker 4>That's too far, too far, that's too far. There has

0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:23.040
<v Speaker 4>to be a statue of limitations.

0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:24.440
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a rounding up situation.

0:59:24.520 --> 0:59:24.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:59:24.680 --> 0:59:26.600
<v Speaker 3>I think if it's the first six months of the year,

0:59:27.400 --> 0:59:30.960
<v Speaker 3>that's closer to the Christmas. If it's the next six months,

0:59:30.960 --> 0:59:32.280
<v Speaker 3>it's closer to the other Christmas.

0:59:32.520 --> 0:59:32.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:36.440
<v Speaker 4>I have a saying that goes before three t I

0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:37.840
<v Speaker 4>mean before three months.

0:59:37.960 --> 0:59:39.120
<v Speaker 3>It's good. You know you did a.

0:59:39.120 --> 0:59:39.920
<v Speaker 5>Little fun laugh TI.

0:59:40.360 --> 0:59:42.440
<v Speaker 3>You know you've always said that.

0:59:42.480 --> 0:59:43.920
<v Speaker 5>I've always said that that didn't.

0:59:45.800 --> 0:59:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, okay that I think that feels safe. Now.

0:59:50.680 --> 0:59:53.960
<v Speaker 3>The other thing is very interesting to me. Yes, if

0:59:54.440 --> 0:59:57.840
<v Speaker 3>you buy two tickets and one is for yourself, is

0:59:57.880 --> 1:00:02.960
<v Speaker 3>that part of the gift budget or is that I

1:00:03.000 --> 1:00:04.560
<v Speaker 3>have an opinion I want to hear YOURSLF.

1:00:04.640 --> 1:00:09.760
<v Speaker 4>Yes, well, gift budget is interesting to me, but I

1:00:09.800 --> 1:00:13.360
<v Speaker 4>guess people do that, which is totally fine. But to me,

1:00:13.440 --> 1:00:16.600
<v Speaker 4>it's like it doesn't have to be an exact Apples

1:00:16.600 --> 1:00:19.439
<v Speaker 4>for Apple right gifts no judgment, like you shouldn't judge

1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:21.080
<v Speaker 4>me if you know whatever, But I do think you

1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:25.080
<v Speaker 4>need to put some thought into it. I would say

1:00:25.640 --> 1:00:29.520
<v Speaker 4>it depends if you want to go see Beyonce's Renaissance

1:00:29.600 --> 1:00:31.360
<v Speaker 4>tour because she's your favorite artist and you listen to

1:00:31.400 --> 1:00:33.160
<v Speaker 4>her NonStop, and you really want to go with me,

1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:34.600
<v Speaker 4>and he want us to get and you want to

1:00:34.600 --> 1:00:38.000
<v Speaker 4>get tickets, and I give you on your birthday Beyonce

1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:41.440
<v Speaker 4>Renaissance tickets and I'm the one going with you. I

1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:49.720
<v Speaker 4>still think that counts unless we both love Beyonce right equally? Yes, right,

1:00:49.880 --> 1:00:53.760
<v Speaker 4>So I think it would depend on right, is it

1:00:53.800 --> 1:00:55.760
<v Speaker 4>a gift truly for you or is it for us?

1:00:55.960 --> 1:01:00.479
<v Speaker 5>Right? Because I think if it's just for you, then yes, yeah.

1:01:00.560 --> 1:01:03.840
<v Speaker 3>I think if it's if the giver, let's say the

1:01:03.840 --> 1:01:06.280
<v Speaker 3>giver doesn't even want to go, yes, and they buy

1:01:06.280 --> 1:01:09.000
<v Speaker 3>two tickets, then it's a gift. But if the giver

1:01:09.120 --> 1:01:11.960
<v Speaker 3>does want to go, you're just buying you would have

1:01:11.960 --> 1:01:13.920
<v Speaker 3>bought it anyway. Yeah, that's part of the budget.

1:01:14.040 --> 1:01:16.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, which is why I'm like those gifts should just

1:01:16.960 --> 1:01:18.920
<v Speaker 4>let's get rid of those. That's not a Christmas, that's

1:01:18.920 --> 1:01:20.560
<v Speaker 4>not in a budget, that's not that. I'll just do

1:01:20.640 --> 1:01:22.640
<v Speaker 4>something different and then we'll still go to do that, right.

1:01:22.720 --> 1:01:24.440
<v Speaker 3>I was going to go anyway, and now I bought

1:01:24.440 --> 1:01:25.120
<v Speaker 3>your tickets.

1:01:25.240 --> 1:01:25.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

1:01:25.600 --> 1:01:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you can't count your enjoyment as part of

1:01:28.800 --> 1:01:30.680
<v Speaker 3>their no presence, and.

1:01:30.680 --> 1:01:33.600
<v Speaker 4>You might enjoy the Beyonce concert even if you don't,

1:01:34.120 --> 1:01:36.520
<v Speaker 4>even if you're not like Jones and the go I

1:01:36.600 --> 1:01:37.400
<v Speaker 4>did this recently.

1:01:37.640 --> 1:01:39.920
<v Speaker 5>I went to the Beyonce concert. I did too, and

1:01:40.000 --> 1:01:40.560
<v Speaker 5>it was fun.

1:01:40.720 --> 1:01:43.680
<v Speaker 4>But it's not like I'm not like, Ooh, Renaissance tours

1:01:43.720 --> 1:01:44.760
<v Speaker 4>coming up, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, oh, there's a nice tick.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, sure I'll go. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that how your That was my experience. My friend said,

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<v Speaker 3>do you want to go to Beyonce tonight? I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>of course I do.

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<v Speaker 4>Well no, my girlfriend definitely wanted Beyonce tickets, so it

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<v Speaker 4>was like she wants to got a renaissance tour. So

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, I will get us tickets, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>But I went with her, but it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it wasn't your priority.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was like, Beyonce is a fantastic artists. All

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<v Speaker 4>you might have some fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>They are leaving horrible reviews and I loved it.

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<v Speaker 4>It was so fun. The concert was so fun. But

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<v Speaker 4>I just think it just the context man is right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that we came together in a beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>way on this. I think. I mean, let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 3>Audra just came with some things that she should have known. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>these are some she's just begging for attention. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 3>knows the answer to both of those. They were in

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<v Speaker 3>her heart the entire time, and she just wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>write into the podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>Shame, I mean shame. I can't blame her, but also shame.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Odra, you have your answers that you already had,

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<v Speaker 3>and you basically cheated the podcast. She's stealing from the podcast. Yeh,

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<v Speaker 3>she's stealing our listeners time. So shame, Yeah, shame, But

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<v Speaker 3>there are the answers for hopefully somebody else learned something.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm hmm, echo what a I mean, this has

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<v Speaker 3>been wonderful. I've got I have something to read, chainsaw man,

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<v Speaker 3>I've never read manga before. Maybe this will open something

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<v Speaker 3>in my brain.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>And we answered Odder's question. Yeah, I mean Usher is

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be picking strawberries or something in no time. He's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be having the time of his life.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. The garbage situation has been dealt with. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>I can remember the other two. Predator's jogging through.

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<v Speaker 5>President just shogging a little healthy habit.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone's like he's gonna kill it. Oh no, he's just working.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh oh, he's finally taking care of him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he was getting a little old. The little bunch

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<v Speaker 4>was coming out, don't you think Yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 3>He's getting ready for.

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<v Speaker 4>He's been missing all his spirit. Throws at me. I've

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<v Speaker 4>hit me in years. He's fallen off. The brenad has

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<v Speaker 4>fallen off. Honey, he can save the outside again.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for being Thank you so much. Listener.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you've you're almost at the bottom of the mountain.

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<v Speaker 3>This has been the ski trip of your life. You've survived.

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<v Speaker 3>You thought you were going to freeze to death and

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<v Speaker 3>the wilderness, but you're going to make it and you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to appreciate life even more. The podcast is over.

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<v Speaker 3>Get going, do whatever you need to do. It's over.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an

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<v Speaker 3>exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise Nelson,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann.

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<v Speaker 3>You must follow the show on Instagram at I said

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<v Speaker 3>no gifts. I don't want to hear any excuses. That's

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<v Speaker 3>where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous

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<v Speaker 3>gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures

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<v Speaker 3>of the gifts?

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<v Speaker 4>And invit?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you hear?

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<v Speaker 2>Fun? A man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest

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<v Speaker 2>to me, you gotta come to me empty.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, no, guest, your own presence is presents enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I already had too much stuff, So how do you

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<v Speaker 1>dare to surbey me