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Speaker 2: But you're a guest to my home. You gotta come

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Speaker 2: to me empty, And I said, no guests, you're o

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Speaker 1: I already had too much stuff, So how did you

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Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineger January,

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Speaker 3: I suppose, and at least this is January. Nodding their head. Uh, so,

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Speaker 3: I assume I'm catching you on the slopes, probably zipping

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Speaker 3: and that. I mean, I can't imagine anything else you

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Speaker 3: knows what I was thinking. Rough experience. But we're in

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Speaker 3: the middle of the day. It's beautiful, we're in the backyard,

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Speaker 3: and I'm very excited about today's guests. He's just wonderful.

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Speaker 3: It's echo kellum echo. Welcome to said.

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Speaker 4: Okifts, thank you so much for having me. I'm very thankful.

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Speaker 4: I already said thank you. Look that two thanks in

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Speaker 3: Wow, the gratitude is just shining through. I'm not quite

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Speaker 3: sure what to do with myself today. It's been so cold,

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Speaker 4: I know, I'm wear a full on sweater. It's like

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Speaker 4: ninety seven degree. It was like sixty eight degrees yesterday

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Speaker 4: and I was like, sweater weather is here. I'm living,

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Speaker 4: I'm thriving, and today I am. I am completely drenched.

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Speaker 3: I feel like even just wearing pants, I'm overdressed for this.

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Speaker 3: It's too much. But uh, I guess we should enjoy

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I I I'm like, I'm like, uh, Noah,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if Noah looked forward to the rain.

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Speaker 4: I just remember that one thing was like, it's going rain.

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Speaker 4: Like he just keeps saying it's going rain, and yeah, Noah,

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Speaker 4: sure he's blowing that arc. It ain't going right. But

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Speaker 3: I I wish I could. I mean, Uh, listeners of

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Speaker 5: My back house flooded.

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Speaker 4: It's not a house, it's like it was a garage

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Speaker 3: Was like more water drop, more water dropped.

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Speaker 5: When I live in Vancouver, it rained all the time.

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Speaker 5: I was a poor black kid, sure.

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Speaker 4: So when you are very poor black man, you get

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Speaker 4: But no, it was like I always wanted cool sneakers

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Speaker 4: Like I won the lot was kind of entertainment. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Wait till you're on your deathbed.

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Speaker 4: Yes, bring maybe twelve wings.

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Speaker 3: Now more shoes should be designed to like become cooler

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Speaker 4: The truth is the resale that is the expensive part, right,

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Speaker 4: And I keeping them out for just two hundred bucks.

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Speaker 3: So were you ever waiting in lines or anything?

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Speaker 5: Lockers doing a drop. I would do that type of stuff, but.

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Speaker 4: there was already a line with twenty five people and

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Speaker 4: They're going to be running property, yes, moving in next

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Speaker 3: You're competing with mosquitoes to buy property. The housing market

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Speaker 3: I wottle break.

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Speaker 4: If I would say, if I could say, a perfect

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Speaker 3: Oh a nice RAINI weekend, bring out the tea.

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Speaker 3: It makes me feel nice. Let me get to that

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Speaker 4: I hated in Vancouver couldn't stand because it was just

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Speaker 5: Its like NonStop, four straight weeks.

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Speaker 4: Ten months a year? Oh, loot of the summer month?

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Speaker 5: I came back to La a lot.

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Speaker 3: What I mean? I do want to visit Vancouver. It's

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Speaker 5: It's a beautiful place.

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Speaker 4: It really is that I'm not no shots in the

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Speaker 3: They know it.

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Speaker 5: Two hundred and sixty five days a year on average.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but maybe I.

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Speaker 4: I just had like some boots I bought off sneakers app.

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Speaker 3: I get these? What is their version of a range?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to get more of a sand paper

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Speaker 3: I have to talk to you about something. Yes, I

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Speaker 3: was really excited to have you on the podcast. Thank you, thrilled.

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Speaker 3: I saw the email echo wonderful. We're going to have

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Speaker 4: Apologetic for I come from a place of ass for forgiveness.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I waserve for podcasts. I'm going to ask for forgiven.

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Speaker 4: So I hope you can forgive me.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm learning about you and this is something i'm learning,

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Speaker 3: Well we'll open it here on the podcast.

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Speaker 5: It here, Okay.

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Speaker 3: It's some of this gorgeous best.

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Speaker 5: Beautiful Christmas theme.

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Speaker 3: Back, very wintry.

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Speaker 4: I would say, white is the driven snow with silver

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Speaker 5: More other Christmas plants.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm pulling it out.

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Speaker 5: Yes, bound on the right, So I.

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Speaker 3: Immediately knew it wasn't an American published books, not an

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Speaker 4: It's pritted in English, but it's a Japanese manga, which

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Speaker 3: They read from right to left, right, and it's chainsaw Man.

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Speaker 5: It's called chainsaw Man.

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Speaker 4: it was a slow burn for me. But I think

443
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,880
Speaker 4: it's so fun. I've really enjoyed it, and I think

444
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 4: it's a story.

445
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,120
Speaker 5: That you could enjoy.

446
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 4: It really relate to I really relate to. Yeah, I

447
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 4: love anime too. It's just very funny. I've had a

448
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 4: kind of an anime reawakening in life. I was into

449
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 4: a big time as a kid, and recently it's kind

450
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,359
Speaker 4: of become some of the only like TV that I

451
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,160
Speaker 4: watch or mangas that are or comics that I read

452
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:27,439
Speaker 4: as well.

453
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Speaker 3: I mean, I will say it's interesting to hear something

454
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,160
Speaker 3: called Chainsaw Man described as a slow burn.

455
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, like as a series. So there's

456
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 4: right now, there's thirteen books. This is one which has

457
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 4: houses multiple comics like actual comics of.

458
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,159
Speaker 3: How they like it, basically multiple episodes, yes, basically.

459
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 4: Multiple episodes or chapters. They call each comic a chapter.

460
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 4: Each book has about like five chapters in it, Okay.

461
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 3: And then but then there are thirteen books, So yeah,

462
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 3: that's a lot of lot. What a journey Chainsaw Man

463
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 3: is a journey?

464
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it kind of You can stop at book eleven

465
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 4: if you want and get a complete story of the

466
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 4: arc that's happening from Chainsawmn book one to eleven if

467
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 4: you want, And then book twelve kind of resets a

468
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 4: little bit and starts and you see other tertiary characters

469
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 4: and all these other people kind of have a little

470
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 4: bit of time in the.

471
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 3: Light soft three boots sort of situation.

472
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Speaker 5: Even though Chainsaw Man is still very prevalent.

473
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Speaker 3: Now, Chainsaw Like the thirteen books, what span of time

474
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 3: were they published over?

475
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Speaker 4: Two thousand and eight to twenty twenty The first eleven

476
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 4: and book twelve on out have started coming out since

477
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty two.

478
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 3: Wow, so it's been around for a minute.

479
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 5: It's been around, Yeah, almost like almost six years.

480
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Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me about who tell me about Chainsaw Man

481
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 3: as a man?

482
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 4: Okay, So Chainsaw Man stars this character named Dingy. He

483
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 4: is this kind of down on his luck vagrant. His

484
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 4: father died when he was young and his debts got

485
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 4: passed to his father.

486
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 5: His father owed death to the Yakuza.

487
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Speaker 4: And so in this world there are these monsters called devils,

488
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 4: but they inhabit every detail of everything in our life.

489
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Speaker 4: So for instance, tomato devil, gun devil, blood devil.

490
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, darkness devil.

491
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, tomato devil is one of the first devils

492
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 4: you'll see inside.

493
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Speaker 3: I'm not even kidding.

494
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 5: And it's so, but it creates. They create this stuff like.

495
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 4: Based on human things essentially, or I don't know, tomatoes

496
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Speaker 4: are human thing, it's it's ivering human.

497
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 5: Yes, inhabit each of these things.

498
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 4: They're the gods of whatever these things are, essentially. And he,

499
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 4: to pay off his debt to the Yakuza, is hired

500
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 4: as a devil hunter. He makes friends with this pet

501
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 4: chainsaw creature named Pachita. I think that might be there

502
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 4: will be, and they're betrayed by the Yakuza. The Yacuza

503
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 4: kills him and like gut some like and kills the

504
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 4: chainsaw to kills a chainsaw dog. But as as he

505
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 4: is dead, his blood like cure devils.

506
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 5: They need human blood.

507
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 4: So as he's dead, some of his blood drips into

508
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 4: the chainsaw dog's mouth and devils can make contracts with humans. Okay,

509
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 4: so they can make a deal. And then he says,

510
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 4: I will become your heart. Just give me your dreams,

511
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 4: and Dingy says yes, and he thus it becomes chainsaw

512
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 4: Man and.

513
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 3: His dream is to become a man with a chainsaw

514
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 3: for ahead.

515
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 4: I mean it is it is a current dream, it's

516
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 4: a it's a living dream he has essentially, But you

517
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 4: know it it has a slow burn because sometimes his

518
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 4: reasoning for wanting to go forward and do it is like,

519
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's your reason. It can feel like a

520
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 4: little child or some in some ways. But I think

521
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 4: the reason why I say it has a slow burn

522
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 4: is you start to realize why he feels this way.

523
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 4: Like it feels like I was like, man, this artist

524
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 4: just was like I'm gonna do something weird. It's like

525
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 4: like I.

526
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 5: Was like, what did he do this for?

527
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 4: But it actually started to make sense tomorrow I read

528
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 4: it and it started to become like a decent driver,

529
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 4: right right, Dingy to push forward. But it's really great,

530
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 4: a lot of great characters.

531
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Speaker 3: And does he still have a dog companion?

532
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 4: The dog lives in his heart now, so the dog

533
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 4: becomes his heart. It is his heart. It is his

534
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 4: new heart. He has a chainsaw string whenever he needs

535
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 4: to switch to chainsaw man to do devil fighting.

536
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 5: He's a human being.

537
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 4: He does go about, he gets he can date, he

538
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 4: can do this stuff. He gets hired by this group

539
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 4: of devil hunters or government run group of devil hunters.

540
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 4: Each nation has their own group, right, But devils are

541
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 4: like constantly their humanity's biggest threat, right, So they're trying

542
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 4: to eradicate the devils of the world so that humans

543
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 4: can live in peace.

544
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Speaker 3: I want to get a peek at him as a person, Yeah,

545
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 3: get a peek. Is this him? Yeah? And that's the

546
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Speaker 3: dog yea.

547
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 4: I was right, cut cut such And there's so much

548
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 4: you learned about this dog and what it means and

549
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 4: happens later. I dare not spoil it for you.

550
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Speaker 3: I'm very rests. Yeah, there's a lot of like kind

551
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 3: of scary things, but also some very cute monsters. Yeah, yeah, okay,

552
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 3: And it looks like there's some romance.

553
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 5: There's some romance. Oh, there is some romance.

554
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 3: So you're really into manga and anime. Yeah, do you

555
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 3: have like a number one favorite?

556
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 4: My number one favorite right now is Demon Slayer. Okay,

557
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 4: Demon Slayer, I think is just absolutely fantastic. The story

558
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 4: is gripping, it's also brutal, it's beautiful, it's heart wrenching.

559
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 3: And this is an anime or manga.

560
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 4: It's both well anime spawn from mangah, right, so they

561
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 4: usually have So Demon Slayer had a run. They did

562
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 4: it like a twenty six chapter run, and now they're

563
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 4: catching up and building up the anime to be all

564
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Speaker 4: the chapters of the run.

565
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I I obviously love a lot of anime movies. Yeah,

566
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 3: I mean a Zaki movies, all these things. But I've

567
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: never watched an anime TV show. I know, because there

568
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 3: are a billion of them, so many. Where do you begin?

569
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Speaker 5: There?

570
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Speaker 4: There are some I think right now we're kind of

571
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 4: in a really great error for me personally. An anime

572
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 4: like Demon Slayer is a really great one, ju Jitsu

573
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 4: Kaizen is a really great one.

574
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Speaker 5: Chainsaw Man Heal's Paradise.

575
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Speaker 4: I think these are like some really phenomenal stories that

576
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 4: also talk about the human experience.

577
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: And on the way.

578
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 4: UH deal with love and loss and and they also

579
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Speaker 4: have a lot of kick ass action and like dope

580
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 4: fights and.

581
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: Pictures, and you're reading the opposite direction which is a

582
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 3: novelty in myself.

583
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Speaker 4: You're getting those you're getting that credit on your Apple

584
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 4: reading daily limit lists as well, and that way.

585
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: I don't know what this is.

586
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 4: Yeh, So I have like a reading limit that I

587
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 4: want to hit every day, just make sure that I'm reading,

588
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 4: you know, so I have my just literally said it

589
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 4: like five minutes a day, sive minutes a day, like

590
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 4: nothing crazy, but I read.

591
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Speaker 5: I try to read every day.

592
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 3: And then do you get onto the app and tell

593
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Speaker 3: it you read this?

594
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 4: You know you got you hit your goal today or

595
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,479
Speaker 4: you hit your yearly goal, just like let you know,

596
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 4: like you've read a lot this month, but we managed you.

597
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Speaker 5: You know.

598
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Speaker 3: It's just like but you like, you have to tell

599
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 3: it or it does How does it said?

600
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 5: I think in books you have to say it.

601
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah yeah, So are you reading most of your

602
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 3: stuff on an ips on my iPad? Now it's beginning

603
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 3: to make sense.

604
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 5: I read most of it on iPad?

605
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: Okay?

606
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 5: Oh yes, that's exactly.

607
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: I was thinking, like, how does the phone know?

608
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Speaker 4: Well, I would have given you a iPad it on it.

609
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 5: It's just the budget was a little cure.

610
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 3: That'll be you didn't want the.

611
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Speaker 4: Gift and I didn't want to go that big or

612
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 4: you didn't want it.

613
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: You knew you were experience, you were pushing the rules anyway.

614
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 3: You didn't want an enormous fight.

615
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 5: It would be big, big time fight.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, I on my kindle. I don't

617
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Speaker 3: know if it tracks reading prog or like how much

618
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Speaker 3: you're doing a day. I should look into that. I'd

619
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Speaker 3: like something kind of nagging me to read.

620
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like as a gamer, I'm like, of course,

621
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Speaker 5: like sweet, I read.

622
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Speaker 3: I read forty minutes this week. Yeah, I mean that

623
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 3: will do the trick with basically anything at this point

624
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: is just making it a game.

625
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 4: I wish we could see the minutes of our lives

626
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 4: that we spent doing stuff all the time.

627
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 3: Could you. I'm actually I anything to do with that number.

628
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: I don't want anyone seeing it. I would I think

629
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: I would just collapse upon looking at it.

630
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 5: But would it? Would it make you adjust some things?

631
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 3: Probably not, let's be honest. Yeah, yeah, if you were

632
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: looking at that number, what would your guests be? Like

633
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: the highest number of minutes that like you've spent doing.

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00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 5: Something doing something?

635
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to lay out of your life say.

636
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 4: Video games. Okay, probably because or I mean sleep probably

637
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 4: is the number one. Sure, but video games as like

638
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 4: just a thing that I choose to do that I

639
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 4: don't have to do to exist.

640
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Speaker 5: I think that would be number. That's always been like my.

641
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: First love and passion growing up.

642
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 4: So I racked up a ton of hours as a kid,

643
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 4: of course, but then, you know, I think it's a

644
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 4: way for me to decompress because my life can be

645
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 4: pretty busy sometimes and so it's just nice to just

646
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 4: like take a step back and just play a game,

647
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 4: be a character or whatever.

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00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 3: What video games are you playing as a kid?

649
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean you know Mario Brothers, Selda Great teen Years,

650
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 4: Metal Gear Solid, you know, so Golden Eyes, so many.

651
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 4: I was, I was playing all the console games going on.

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00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: Right.

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00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 4: We had Kaliko Vision It's sorry twenty six hundred, four

654
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 4: hundred totograph of sixteen say Genesis Sega and it's I

655
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 4: mean we ran a gam.

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00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: Wow, that's incredible, And you're still playing What sort of

657
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 3: games are you playing now?

658
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 5: Right now?

659
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 4: I'm obsessed with this game called Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I haven't familiar.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they have a great animate to that too.

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Speaker 4: I haven't watched it yet though because I don't have Netflix,

663
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: But they have an amazing game that came out three

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Speaker 4: years ago, but they totally blew it when they they

665
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 4: rushed it out.

666
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of in the news as a disasters.

667
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 4: Interesting to watch, and it's very sad because it is

668
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 4: a phenomenal game, not that they've taken the time two

669
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 4: years to update everything right, fixed the game, fixed the game,

670
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: and it's a fantastic game. So it's just it's sad

671
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 4: that they rushed it when they really had a banger

672
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 4: on their hands.

673
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: So this game, you're basically it's just the future and

674
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: you're kind of just running around doing whatever you want.

675
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're doing missions as a kind of like you're

676
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 4: you're kind of a hired gun initially, and then one

677
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 4: event changes the trajectory of your entire life and you

678
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 4: have to like figure things out in a really big way.

679
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: What is the event if he dies?

680
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 4: The event is he dies, then he's rebooted. He installs

681
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 4: a chip right before he dies, and then is rebooted.

682
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 4: His neural pathways rebooted by the chip when he dies,

683
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 4: and now there's a timer on your life before the

684
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 4: chip completely takes over your whole brain.

685
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 5: And then the rest of it.

686
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 4: It's actually so cool because the whole first act you

687
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 4: think it's this one thing, you and your buddy and

688
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: like you're like getting into the ship and you're like

689
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 4: oh yeah, and then it completely changes. You're like whoa

690
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 4: and me either.

691
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 5: I tried it.

692
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 4: When the first came out, I was like whatever, whatever.

693
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 4: I was like, Keanu reads is in his how I

694
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 4: don't know, I've seen him. And then that even happens

695
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 4: and every player, everybody who thought were big initially, they're

696
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 4: all dead. Everyone's fucking dead. Is like dramatic, and you

697
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 4: have to pick up the pieces. Yeah, he's in your head.

698
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 4: He's the virus that's taken over your brain to essentially

699
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 4: replace you to be he will use your body as

700
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 4: his vessel.

701
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: Essentially die to have ke take over our bodies. Yeah,

702
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: I would trust him, trust take over. And I assume

703
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: you want to want to watch inside, So what what

704
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: what do you mean watching?

705
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 4: You're in his brain and this consciousness, but you can't

706
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 4: do anything, you can't make movements.

707
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 5: You just like a kind of loan for the ride.

708
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: I would love it to just lay back and let

709
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: somebody else do it everything for me.

710
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 4: But you can say you're in his brain like consciousness,

711
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 4: like hey man, what if that's like what's really happening

712
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 4: to us?

713
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 5: Like we died.

714
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 4: They would just go into each other's consciousness and I'm

715
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 4: like this, dude, don't listen, like I don't.

716
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: Don't go there. Oh just short this idiot, you're dad,

717
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: You're dead.

718
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 5: And they come up like what I tried to tell you.

719
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: There's a good chance that's happening. We don't know. There

720
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: might be somebody in my head right now. That is

721
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: absolutely I mean, they gave up a long time, like,

722
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 3: oh this is.

723
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 5: All now you get it. So now you get it.

724
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 5: I'm too done. I'm too dune.

725
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, so okay, so I'm now just trying to clarify.

726
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: So you're the guy, but Keano's in your head, yes, okay.

727
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 5: And you can see Keano.

728
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: He manifests himself physically to you, but no one else.

729
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 5: Can see him.

730
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: Wow, what a delight.

731
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 4: It's really cool. It's actually very cool how they did that.

732
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 4: And how I just shift from act on the act

733
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 4: too is just completely shift and you're like, whoa.

734
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think i've ever really been surprised by

735
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 3: video game like that.

736
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

737
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always just kind of like this is what

738
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: you're doing and you'll be doing it for fifty hours.

739
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, which is fine.

740
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 5: Mm hmmmm hmm.

741
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a really fun game. CD Project Read Wichard

742
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 4: three is like one of my favorite.

743
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 5: Games of all time.

744
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 4: And yeah, the fact that they finally got this and right,

745
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, wow they are. If they can just release

746
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 4: stuff when it's ready, they could be one of them.

747
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 5: They could be like another rock Star.

748
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: That's an interesting new part of video games that we

749
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: didn't used to have to deal with was video games

750
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 3: being released as just a not finished product.

751
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

752
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: When you know the Nintendo sixty four or whatever, you

753
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: would just the game that was the game that you bought,

754
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: and there weren't downloads or anything. Just kind of nice, right,

755
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: But I guess if they if you've got a bad game,

756
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: it was just forever.

757
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 4: True true true, But maybe it made them put more

758
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 4: into not making bad games.

759
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: Right, you have to get it right.

760
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

761
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 4: There, it's a very like we'll fix it in post,

762
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 4: we'll fix it post for the release, we'll fix it.

763
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow, just send out a product like imagine doing

764
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: that with a movie. Here's the unfinished movie. But wait

765
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: Cats Cats?

766
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, Cats was the first first I was like, this

767
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 5: is wow.

768
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: That's not finished. It needed software up there.

769
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 5: It was very interesting.

770
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, Cats is a that's a good call. That

771
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 3: movie was.

772
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 4: There was some rough moments everyone's enjoyment.

773
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, rough situation.

774
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 5: Looked like he was just naked and I was like,

775
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 5: what is happening?

776
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 3: All of those people was blackmailed into doing that film

777
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: or something happened.

778
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 5: I'm like, how who convinced to.

779
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 3: I guess.

780
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 4: I guess was not Andrew Lloyd Webber himself could go

781
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 4: walk into someone's home and convinced you did do Cats

782
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 4: the movie, But somehow someone did well.

783
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: But let's be honest. If Cats came knocking for me,

784
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 3: for anybody, if Cats came knocking for me, I would say,

785
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 3: get me in the suit, get me with Dame Judy.

786
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 4: If Cats came knocking for me, I'm like, Tellico Cats

787
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 4: and Cat, jelgo Cat. Of course I used to know

788
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 4: that whole song too, Jelica Cats. I was I knew

789
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 4: every Cat's part.

790
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 3: Were you ever in Cats?

791
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 5: No? I would like a kid, you know.

792
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 4: Honestly, my first time ever seeing Cats was cast the

793
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 4: music of the movie.

794
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 3: Oh wow, the.

795
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 4: First time I ever seeing I never even heard jelical

796
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 4: cats before. I mean I've heard of cast like Simpsons

797
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 4: made fun of Cats. I mean it's been a person

798
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 4: whenever that stuff. I've never seen the musical music.

799
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: I didn't.

800
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 5: I didn't get into musicals into twenty twelve.

801
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 4: So my first one was Book of Mormons. Yeah, I

802
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 4: saw where Andrew Reynolds and Josh gat and they blew

803
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 4: me away.

804
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 5: I was like, this, this is what musicals can be.

805
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 4: Big Matt Stone and Trey Parker for I was like,

806
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 4: oh my god, I gotta see it. And since then

807
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 4: I've become completely obsessed, obsessed, obsessed, obsessed. So when I

808
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 4: was like, oh, this comeing to me movies, I was like, oh,

809
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 4: you know, this probably be my only chance to really

810
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 4: see it. Right, So I was like, I'm going to

811
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 4: ask these girls, like, let's go see a movie this

812
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 4: go day. I was like, oh, Cats is all. I was like,

813
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 4: let's go see a musical. She's like, Okay, this is

814
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 4: really funny. She's like okay, She's like, are you gay.

815
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 3: I'm like no, I just like what am I doing

816
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 3: that could possibly seem gay. But I also like, who

817
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: are you dating?

818
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 4: Where someone wanted to see a musical means that, like,

819
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 4: it's just football players, not just like jocks. I can't

820
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 4: like art like Jesus Christ.

821
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 3: I mean, Cats was truly for everybody.

822
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 5: It was for everyone. It was for everyone. But we

823
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 5: enjoyed it. She enjoyed it. I mean we didn't enjoy it.

824
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 4: It was bad, but we enjoyed going to see it,

825
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 4: like it was like it was nice to watch the

826
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 4: train Wreck, you know.

827
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know that in any medium that

828
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 3: anyone's first experience with Cats is like, oh, what an

829
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: incredible show?

830
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 5: No way?

831
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, even on stage, it's like, no, this is a thing,

832
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: a very odd thing that's happening. Yeah, so why not

833
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 3: have it be a CG nightmare?

834
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 5: Yeah? Why not? Do you think they should do it practical?

835
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: Oh? I would love a practical. That should be a

836
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: song for the musical practical.

837
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 5: Stagelical Cats practical.

838
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, Andrew start writing.

839
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 4: I would listen to Jellico Cats on repeat every morning

840
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 4: in the pandemic, like the first.

841
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 3: Of what was going on? I should ask are you gay?

842
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 5: But I was just obsessed. I learned the whole song.

843
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 4: I would just sing it in like I was thinking

844
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 4: of pandemic seriously. So I wasn't leaving home except to

845
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 4: go grocery shopping, and I might I was kind of

846
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: having the time of life too, because like it was

847
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 4: just me and my friends were just like playing a

848
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 4: lot more video games because there was nothing else.

849
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 3: To do, to do nothing, yeah or mere.

850
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 4: Friends would just watch movies together over like FaceTime or whatever, Netflix,

851
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 4: watch parties and stuff like that.

852
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 5: But I just saw Cats had just come out time.

853
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 3: Winter of nineteen. Yeah, yeah, first sign.

854
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, something was wrong, something was about, something was about

855
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: to happen, but it just was somehow it just became

856
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 4: my theme. Whenever I will up, I would just bump

857
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 4: Jellicle Cats like on good speakers and just fucking sing it.

858
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 5: I have videos of it. I was just I never released.

859
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 4: Them because I was like, people don't need to see

860
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 4: me like this, but I was loving it.

861
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: Oh that's great. It was that that like on the

862
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 3: soundtrack or did you put that in a playlist? What

863
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: was the next song that? Okay?

864
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 4: Oh, so I would go from that to like Wis

865
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 4: Khalifa's Outer Space Transition, you know. Yeah, so those were

866
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 4: on heavy repeat.

867
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 5: During the pandemic, the early pandemic day.

868
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: I feel like Cats is probably full of good samples

869
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 3: for rap.

870
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sure.

871
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: I wonder if anybody's ever sampled Cats.

872
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 4: Maybe there needs to be a Cat album, a Cat

873
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 4: sampled album.

874
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,959
Speaker 3: If I mean there, it's there for the and it's ripe,

875
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: it's right. Yeah, of course, I wonder if you moved back,

876
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: you're now, I mean, you are in full sunlight. Look

877
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: at this.

878
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 4: This is better now, just crossed underneath the.

879
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 3: The echo is uncomfortable, physically suffering.

880
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 5: No, you know, I can take this off, do whatever

881
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 5: you want to do, because.

882
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 3: I have an under I have a little This is

883
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: a great. Look. Now you're in a really summary Look, okay,

884
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 3: transitions from winter to summer easily.

885
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 5: This is okay?

886
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: Should we uh we can like rotate this way and

887
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 3: you could go over there. It's I mean, this podcast

888
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 3: is largely about physical movement. It's about in the body. Yeah, yes,

889
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: just being aware of ourselves physically in a space we occupy. Yes,

890
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 3: so we've now switched positions. Yes, we're talking about Cats.

891
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 5: Yes.

892
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: What other musicals do you like?

893
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 5: Oh?

894
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 4: Like, I look, I like a lot of musicals the

895
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 4: last two year probably was seeing like per years, probably

896
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 4: seeing like forty musicals or plays.

897
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 3: Forty yeah four zero, like the.

898
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 4: Whole I would see all the musicals wow the season

899
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 4: like in New.

900
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: York, which I move into New York's. I was a bikostal.

901
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 4: I was back and forth and it was just I

902
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 4: would see like two music is a week, like just

903
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 4: I would rush tickets. I would like try to get too.

904
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 4: I wasn't just like sometimes i'd sit in the mezzanine.

905
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 4: I didn't care, like if I was always in the org.

906
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 4: Especially got to a point where I was I don't

907
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 4: care about being an extra. I just want to see that.

908
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 4: I just want to see the play or the musical.

909
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 4: But one of my favorite most recent plays Strange Loop Oh,

910
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 4: that was fantastic.

911
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 3: I mean heard nothing but so good.

912
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 4: I think I saw it five times in as run

913
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 4: because I was just like I just wanted to see,

914
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 4: you know, a part of like the first three times

915
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 4: I saw it.

916
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 5: First time, I meant to see it.

917
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 4: Second time it was just a friend was like, you

918
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 4: told me about the show, so I said, I got

919
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 4: a chicken. I was like, hell, yeah, I'll go see it.

920
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 4: And then the third time, like a friend came into town.

921
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 4: I was like, what should I see it? I was like,

922
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 4: strange loop, you know what I'm saying. So we went

923
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 4: and then the thing that happened was I wanted to

924
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 4: get the entire cast back, so I kept going back

925
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 4: to see that. It's like collecting yeah, because it was

926
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 4: like COVID stuff, and some people could so I couldn't

927
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 4: get those other times the full complete set. So I

928
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 4: was going back to like complete set because they all were.

929
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 5: So indistinctly phenomenal.

930
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 4: And this is nothing not a shot against the very

931
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 4: very critical understudies, who were right, of course, fantastic, still

932
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 4: the top of their game, yes still, but everyone's voice

933
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 4: the original cast was just so interesting and unique that

934
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 4: even when there was an understudy, I felt it glaringly

935
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 4: missing that unique voice.

936
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: Wow, except for the lead.

937
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 4: The lead Jack kel Spevie was I think that's how

938
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 4: you pronounce his name was absolutely fantastic, and Cal Freeman

939
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: was equally as fantastic. So either one of them, I'm like,

940
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 4: I'll take either lead. It was just the thoughts the

941
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 4: other six. I was like, I need to have the original.

942
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: Six And did you eventually get that?

943
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 5: Nope?

944
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: I never got it again. I never got the full.

945
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 4: I never got the full because I think Antoine, who

946
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 4: played Thought five, I think he kind of left toward

947
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 4: the end.

948
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 5: He didn't.

949
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 4: I just I justn't think it was that any of

950
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 4: the shows really. I didn't see him posting about it anymore.

951
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 4: So I don't really know how they're internally there. I

952
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 4: think there was something, let's just be honest.

953
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 5: So then he didn't come back.

954
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 4: My last two times I didn't see him, and I

955
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: was just like, oh man, because he just had and

956
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: you know, I miss Jason Veasley one time and he

957
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 4: just brought so much, Like just each one of them

958
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 4: was just like.

959
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: You are absolutely perfect for these parts.

960
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 4: And if if there's even a little at it, I

961
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 4: just felt like you they weren't have to fuel fire,

962
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 4: even though it's still an amazing show, Like Michael Jackson

963
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: wrote a fantastic show.

964
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 5: The music is a banger. We want to know. My

965
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 5: favorite one when the parents like was having in New

966
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 5: York so good.

967
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 4: I love that, I really love I mean, ain't no

968
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 4: mo was great though we got a three three week,

969
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 4: four week one, but I got to see it on

970
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 4: this last night. Just crazy. I saw everything I saw thing.

971
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 4: The minutes was a fantastic play.

972
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, we're getting into territory and like

973
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: I haven't.

974
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 4: Heard oh my god, yeah this this is like kind

975
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 4: of a deep cut. I didn't expect that. I'm just like, oh,

976
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 4: I guess I should see something. I was like around, like, oh,

977
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: what happen to say? I haven't seen the minute? Let

978
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 4: me see this, and it blew me away. It was

979
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: just like a town having a meeting about town business,

980
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 4: Like they're just like the city council. Oh, and them

981
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 4: trying to they're taking the minutes in a minute, and

982
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 4: then it just turned.

983
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 5: To all this crazy deceit.

984
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 4: It's like it's like zig when it's I was like

985
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 4: I was expecting a whole another thing. And then by

986
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 4: the end, they're all dripping blood from their mouth because

987
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: they're like some type of cult and it's like saying

988
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 4: it now like this sounds insane, but in.

989
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 5: The show was like, how the way when did this more?

990
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it has been It's like you realize like,

991
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 4: oh my god, I've been on this journey and holy shit,

992
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 4: you motherfuckers are wild.

993
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 3: Keano is in one of those people's heads.

994
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 4: He's in one of their heads. He's definitely a construct

995
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 4: in their heads. I've literally seen.

996
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: You should become a critic, like a secret critic.

997
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 4: I think a part part of my problem is that

998
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 4: sometimes I'm just like, oh, I like.

999
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 5: Everything, Like I like, I really enjoyed that. That was cool.

1000
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 5: So I'm like, oh, I don't know if I would

1001
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 5: be able to be tough enough.

1002
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 4: You know, I did see a play out here that

1003
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 4: I left after the second.

1004
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 3: Rough, especially when somebody like who truly loves anything walks away,

1005
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 3: you know.

1006
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, oh no, and I wanted to

1007
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 4: stay though I had to leave, but because something else.

1008
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 4: But I was like, but it was just so bad.

1009
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 4: It was like to me, it was like if chat

1010
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 4: GPT two not even four was told to write a

1011
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 4: play about black trauma.

1012
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: Oh wow, and every trope was in this play. It

1013
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 3: was like just checking off a list.

1014
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Gay Sons was to be a basketball player, was

1015
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 4: paid by a dand sister who died, and the horrible

1016
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 4: thing that happened with the kids, brother in jail, Daddy

1017
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 4: having a fair on mama. Mama schizophrenia dying from her

1018
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 4: brain disease. Auntie, I was asking Daddy on Mama, you.

1019
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying.

1020
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 5: I was just like one or two.

1021
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 4: Now, No, I'm like, dude, you're like throwing every single trope.

1022
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 5: Of black trauma into this play, and it's impurating me.

1023
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: At least call it out.

1024
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 4: It was just I was like, there was like parts

1025
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 4: where it's like he's mad and it's like the drums

1026
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 4: are sitting there.

1027
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 5: I was like, he bet and I played them drums.

1028
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 4: He better not, but I'm like, no, stop it.

1029
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 3: It was just like everything.

1030
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 6: I was like, like, there was one part where I mean,

1031
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 6: my friend too, she's a big Broadway person too. We

1032
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 6: like saw plays out in New York, so we were

1033
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 6: excited for this one. And I remember the part where

1034
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 6: the brother's in jail, the sun is gay pussy a

1035
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 6: basketball player but wants to play ballet, and the brother's

1036
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 6: older friend has been like helping around the house and

1037
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 6: blah bah blah. Turns out of course he's having sex

1038
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 6: with the son. Oh sure, right, and so they start

1039
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 6: making out and now we saw this old time.

1040
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 5: I was like, they bet, and I'll start making up.

1041
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 5: There they gonna they start making.

1042
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 4: Out and there's two older woman next to me, Like

1043
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 4: I did not see that coming be like what say that? Like,

1044
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 4: we were just like you got so we just left,

1045
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 4: like we gotta go, we gotta go. I was like,

1046
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 4: oh yeah, I had to go. She we left after

1047
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 4: act one. I convinced her to come back for acting inion.

1048
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 4: Well it was three acts rest of all, so Act

1049
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 4: one happened. She was like, I can't do it. We

1050
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 4: have to go act go. I was like what, She's like,

1051
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 4: we can't stay in this. I was like, oh man,

1052
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 4: because I'm like I want to stay for the train wreck.

1053
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 4: Act two. I convince her we're having lunch. I was like,

1054
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 4: we gotta go back. Can we just go back, Let's

1055
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 4: just go back. She's like, okay, fine, let's go back.

1056
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 5: Act two. We go back. It's even wilder, a lot

1057
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 5: of se just we're like, oh my god. Act three.

1058
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 4: I had to go because I had like an appointment somewhere.

1059
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 4: She stayed for Act three.

1060
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: I had an appointment somewhere. You were planning to not

1061
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 3: be at the same anyway.

1062
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 4: I didn't notice it was gonna be like three and

1063
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 4: a half hours long. I think it was the thing

1064
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh my god, like I have

1065
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 4: to be five like my Lasik. But she watched the

1066
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: third act and then was like the thing happened and

1067
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 4: blah blah blah the boy died blah blah blah blah blah.

1068
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: Bad end.

1069
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh my god, no, I'm not going

1070
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 4: to say if if you've seen the play, you know

1071
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 4: what play I'm talking about, I'm gonna say the name

1072
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 4: of it.

1073
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: But I feel like there are certainly enough details at

1074
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: this point that people know.

1075
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 4: At this I was just like, no offense to any

1076
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 4: people's colors near both was like, a white person have

1077
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 4: to write this. I was like, it just had to

1078
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 4: be a white person and it was not.

1079
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: It was I wrote that play. It was my first player.

1080
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 4: I was just like, there's no way, like a black

1081
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 4: person would be tone deaf like this.

1082
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 5: Oh my god.

1083
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: It would have been recommended to you or did you

1084
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 3: just see Literally the friend who recommended me to go

1085
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 3: see Ain't No Mo, which was brilliantful Broadway, saw this play.

1086
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 5: And was raving about I saw I saw them posted.

1087
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 3: I was like, is it good? She's like yes.

1088
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 5: I was like, we're done. So her friend and me

1089
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 5: went to go see it.

1090
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 4: Together because we saw her posts were like, let's go

1091
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 4: see it, and we FaceTime her act one, like.

1092
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 5: What the heck, Like, what's this show? She's like, no,

1093
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 5: it gets better than I to try to acting was

1094
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 5: even worse to.

1095
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 4: Act when I was like whoa anyway, But but you

1096
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 4: still got to respect that this person got it made.

1097
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: Maybe it has a place.

1098
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 4: But you know, like I've seen stuff that I'm like

1099
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 4: I didn't like, Like, you know, I saw a slave

1100
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 4: play and I was like, I don't really like this, like.

1101
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 5: But it just I just didn't.

1102
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: It just made me feel right, But I wasn't like

1103
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 4: visially like I'm not.

1104
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 3: This is horrible.

1105
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 4: What I was like, I don't agree with this, this

1106
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 4: isn't but this I was just like, you gotta be

1107
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 4: kidding me. You've got to me, yeah, like why are

1108
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 4: you forcing everything? We don't have to deal with every act?

1109
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: Oh my, and at least get it done in two acts.

1110
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, to acts drag me through a third and a

1111
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 4: half hours. Harry Potter and the Blood Moan Prince or

1112
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 4: whatever that new show, The Curse Prince.

1113
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 3: You're alter the Blood Moon Prince.

1114
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 5: I think that actually is real. But I would just

1115
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 5: see that.

1116
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 4: On Broadway recently and I was like, oh, let me

1117
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 4: see this, and it's a three hour and forty five.

1118
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 4: I was an hour two, like, man, is this wrapping

1119
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 4: up soon? Like that's a just a dumb I didn't

1120
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 4: look up the time for it, and I.

1121
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 3: Was literally like that doesn't work for me much like.

1122
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 5: I can't do it. I can't see flower kill at

1123
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 5: the flower moment I want to see. It's so bad.

1124
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 3: I didn't see that.

1125
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 5: Three hours and thirty minutes a long movie.

1126
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 3: And I usually my new rule is to leave halfway

1127
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 3: through a three hour movie, regardless of what it is. Yeah,

1128
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 3: but I sat through that. Yeah, but over three hours?

1129
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 3: What are we doing?

1130
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna watch it. It's coming tomorrow to digital downloads.

1131
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 4: I wanted to see you'll be able to sit still.

1132
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 4: I'll watch like half and then come back the next

1133
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 4: day or something like that.

1134
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 5: Problem.

1135
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, a movie of that length at home will never

1136
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: happen for me. Yeah, yeah, I mean, or it will

1137
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 3: take twelve weeks.

1138
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:46,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, makes sense.

1139
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: I have to find myself in a theater trapped.

1140
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, can't escape if I have.

1141
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: Somebody with me, even better, just because some responsibility and

1142
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 3: I'm like got at least say for them. Yeah, because

1143
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 3: three hours is too much, too much, I shouldn't be

1144
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 3: able to travel halfway across the country with your movie.

1145
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 3: No way, probably more than a halfway. I mean it's

1146
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 3: a disaster. Yeah, no, it's ninety minutes.

1147
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 4: Please, oh two hours in under like my friend, my friend,

1148
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 4: even with like no offense, like even with plays and

1149
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 4: musicals too. I'm like, you do not have to do

1150
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 4: a three hour two forty five. Like, give me two

1151
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 4: hours an under no intermission. Lah, I'm in heaven. I'm

1152
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 4: in heaven.

1153
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 3: Incredible. Then you've got the rest of the night.

1154
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 4: Ain't no more and strangers, we're both like ninety two

1155
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 4: one hundred minutes. I don't know, the blessed. That's not

1156
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 4: why they were my favorites.

1157
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 3: They were, but it didn't hurt, didn't hurt.

1158
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 4: But that's why I could go see that so many times,

1159
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 4: like because it's like, oh, seven o'clock show them out

1160
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 4: by nine, you know what I'm saying. It's like eight

1161
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 4: o'clock show, out by ten. You go on a weekend

1162
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 4: eight o'clock show, you're out of eleven thirty is.

1163
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: Just like over three hours. That's a once in a

1164
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 3: lifetime experience. Yeah, yeah, never to be done again. Yeah, Yeah,

1165
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 3: I don't know that I've ever rewatched a three hour movie.

1166
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 5: I don't think I have.

1167
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 4: And there's three hours movies I've enjoyed, like Irishman I

1168
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 4: thought was great.

1169
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 5: Oppenheimer I like, but I'm like not chopping at this.

1170
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: I can't imagine what world would I sit and watch

1171
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 3: Oppenheimer again? Where I mean body Cast?

1172
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, no way, that movie should have been two and

1173
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 4: twenty minutes.

1174
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 3: Could were. There were a lot of moments when I

1175
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: was thinking, didn't need this that.

1176
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 4: Whole, Like last act, I was like, I don't wire.

1177
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 4: I already saw the thing like not care about you

1178
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 4: and Robert Downey Junior's beef.

1179
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 3: I don't care. I just don't. Let me give me

1180
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 3: the little text. Yeah, just tell me what happened me please?

1181
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 5: You can say then the text, you know, like a

1182
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 5: yeah text.

1183
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: You know every movie should end with that text. Give

1184
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 3: me a little hint to what happened, regardless of what

1185
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 3: sort of movies.

1186
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 5: Yeah they should.

1187
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, even animated movies. I could get into that.

1188
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 5: I could get into that. Yeah, I could too.

1189
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 3: I think we should play a game. Okay, I need

1190
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: a number between one and ten from you.

1191
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 5: Seven.

1192
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to do some light calculating right now.

1193
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 3: To get our game pieces. You can recommend, promote, talk

1194
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 3: to the listener, say what you want.

1195
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 4: Don't forget to find time for yourself and life to

1196
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 4: do the things you love. Hobbies are big time. I'm

1197
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 4: into hobbies. Say help. The monotony of things going on

1198
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 4: in life flow through quite easily. Pick up a camera,

1199
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 4: take a photo, go not hike, find a cool coffee

1200
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 4: shop where you can sit and write and just do life.

1201
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 4: Hang out with friends, go see movies, shows, take road trips.

1202
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 4: The surfing lesson is waiting.

1203
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 5: Do it.

1204
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 4: Just follow your passions and life will open up for

1205
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 4: you in so many ways. And do right by yourself,

1206
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 4: your body and your health, and that also will open

1207
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 4: up so many aspects.

1208
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 2: Wow.

1209
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean you're a star. You know you

1210
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 3: could have easily just done a bunch of self promotion.

1211
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 3: You're guiding our listeners in the there and their lives

1212
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 3: are messes. They're all you know.

1213
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 4: I'm imagining that if they keep coming back to a

1214
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 4: place where people are constantly disrespecting you by.

1215
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 3: Getting a gift, they must be Yeah, every one of

1216
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 3: them are reck, total wreck. This is how we play

1217
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 3: gift Master. I'm gonna name three celebrities, three people and

1218
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 3: three gifts. You're gonna tell me which gift you would

1219
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 3: give which celebrity and why make perfect sense? Okay? Today,

1220
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 3: the celebrities we have are number one usher, number two

1221
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 3: the predator. So that's uh, we all know the predator.

1222
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 3: Household name. Number three, Hillary Swank.

1223
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 5: I know who that is.

1224
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 3: Okay, that's all we need.

1225
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 5: Okay.

1226
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 3: Frequently the guest does not even know who the person

1227
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 3: is and I don't either, and that's fine. We don't

1228
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 3: need to know every celebrity. The gifts you're giving are

1229
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 3: number one a healthy habit, so you'll be giving them

1230
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 3: a healthy habit in their life. Number two garbage can,

1231
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 3: and number three a down on its luck farm.

1232
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 4: M I'm gonna give the predator a healthy habit because

1233
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 4: it's got to be tough to be a predator. It's

1234
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 4: got to be high stress, like even though you're good

1235
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 4: at what you do, like you're hoting in trees all day, it's.

1236
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 3: Got to take a lot on you.

1237
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 4: You got to take a toll on So I hope

1238
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 4: he gets a healthy habit, maybe like eating salads every

1239
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 4: once in a while, taking a job. Can you imagine

1240
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 4: a predator just jogging like that would be fun, not just.

1241
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 5: Jogging like hey, Frank.

1242
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 3: Walking through a mall.

1243
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 4: He murdered your wife. He predatored your wife because you

1244
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 4: said they predator him.

1245
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 5: They predatored him.

1246
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 3: The the what is it?

1247
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 5: The open farm?

1248
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 3: Down on its luck farm.

1249
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 4: I would give Usher a down on his luck farm.

1250
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 4: I think Usher needs to pull back from a spotlight

1251
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 4: just a little bit. He's in Vegas. He's that that.

1252
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 4: You know, he's just working so much too. You know,

1253
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 4: I could have given him a good healthy habit too,

1254
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 4: But I think he needs some down on the farm time.

1255
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 4: He needs to like grow some hay.

1256
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 3: Get he needs to get back to just connect with

1257
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 3: the earth.

1258
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 5: He needs to get get.

1259
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 4: A cow, have like four chickens where he's like eating

1260
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 4: eating eggs every day, you know, justly supplying a family.

1261
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 3: She would really appreciate that. I think he would, like

1262
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 3: anyone who's like trapped in a casino.

1263
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, mega millions NonStop, like he deserves that. And then

1264
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 4: the garbage can. I guess I'm gonna give it to

1265
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 4: Hillary Swain.

1266
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 3: Silence after that, I.

1267
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 5: See her face, my head.

1268
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 3: All picture Hillary.

1269
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 5: I'm like, what movie was she she was in?

1270
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 3: Some movie?

1271
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 4: I think like an alien was gonna do something. I

1272
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 4: think I'm not confusing her with Amy Adams.

1273
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 3: These are the two things I know she's in. Yeah,

1274
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 3: million Dollar Baby, Yes, that's right. She's a boxer, and

1275
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 3: most recently something called Alaska Daily, which was a drama

1276
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 3: on ABC that I became kind of obsessed with because

1277
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 3: it was a drama on ABC. Oh wow, yeah, very

1278
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 3: fun to watch. Yeah, but those are the two things

1279
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 3: I know her.

1280
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right.

1281
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, she wasn't million dollar Baby, but a good actor.

1282
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 4: Good actor in that face you said that baby was like, yeah,

1283
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 4: that's it. That's what I thought it was. Yeah, she

1284
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 4: because she probably has like trash that she needs to.

1285
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: Throw out, right, she's probably producing so much, so much

1286
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 3: just opening packages and just trash all of our house,

1287
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 3: like just litter bug all of our house.

1288
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's the secret. That's the story anyway

1289
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 4: going on about her. Of course I read it onlineal

1290
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 4: litter bug, cereal litter bug.

1291
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 3: This woman will not stop dropping.

1292
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 4: Throw stuff at the trash, but not into it from

1293
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 4: one of her So give her that trash, can Hillary,

1294
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 4: if you're listening, change your ways, yes please?

1295
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 3: That should be her renaissances. Yeah, throwing away garbage, garbage

1296
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 3: in the garbage. She should that'll probably spark some things

1297
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 3: far yeah, yeah, yeah, well beautifully played. Excellent. This is

1298
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 3: the final segment of the podcast. It's called I said

1299
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 3: no emails people write into I said no gifts at

1300
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 3: gmail dot com begging for help, desperate as we you know,

1301
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: we were talking about, their lives are a disaster. Okay, yeah,

1302
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 3: so people need help, You're confused. They just need advice,

1303
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 3: So well, help me answer a questions? Sure, yeah, all right,

1304
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 3: let's see here. This is deer bridger and well meaning

1305
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 3: but rude guest seems appropriate. I have a philosophical gift

1306
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 3: giving question for you that feels relevant with the winter

1307
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 3: holidays coming up. Well, this is airing in January, so

1308
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 3: but that winter holidays are always coming up. My husband

1309
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 3: and I prefer to give experiences as gifts concerts, theater outings,

1310
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 3: comedy shows, et cetera. But there are a couple things

1311
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 3: that hang me up about these gifts. Number One, if

1312
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 3: you are purchasing two tickets to a concert, are both

1313
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 3: tickets the gift or is only one person's ticket the gift?

1314
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 3: For example, I would spend around two hundred dollars on

1315
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 3: my husband for Christmas. But if one ticket is one

1316
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 3: hundred dollars and we both plan on attending, I've already

1317
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 3: spent that two hundred dollars budget. And number two, how

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00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 3: far ahead of or after a holiday, birthday, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: Can tickets still be considered a gift for that occasion?

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Speaker 3: For example, if I gift someone tickets in December for

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Speaker 3: an event in March, is that still considered a Christmas gift?

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Speaker 3: Thank you for your kind consideration, odra A U d

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Speaker 3: r A. That's gotta be awesome.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think that's odre.

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Speaker 3: These are good questions, So I actually these are things

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Speaker 3: that are that people need to consider.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, people need to consider number For the second part,

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00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 4: the timing of the gift does matter, even if it's

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Speaker 4: not a gift you can't cash in till later. If

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Speaker 4: you are gifted a gift on Christmas, even though that

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00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 4: gift might not happen to March, I still think accounts,

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Speaker 4: especially if that gift in March is something that you

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Speaker 4: want a concert. It's like if I give you Stevie

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00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 4: Nikkets Stevie Nickas, if I give you Stevie Nickas tickets.

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Speaker 3: We all know.

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00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 4: Stevie Nicklas great artists, and that's still a gift, right, Yes,

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00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 4: as long as it's not like something for me.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: But because now that goes back to the first question.

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Speaker 3: But let's let's focus on this for a moment, because

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00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 3: but like, what if the what if whatever, the Stevie

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Speaker 3: Nicketts and Fleetwood back are performing in August and you

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Speaker 3: give it on Christmas.

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Speaker 4: That's too far, too far, that's too far. There has

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00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 4: to be a statue of limitations.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a rounding up situation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think if it's the first six months of the year,

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Speaker 3: that's closer to the Christmas. If it's the next six months,

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00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 3: it's closer to the other Christmas.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I have a saying that goes before three t I

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00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 4: mean before three months.

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Speaker 3: It's good. You know you did a.

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Speaker 5: Little fun laugh TI.

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00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 3: You know you've always said that.

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00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 5: I've always said that that didn't.

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00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay that I think that feels safe. Now.

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Speaker 3: The other thing is very interesting to me. Yes, if

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Speaker 3: you buy two tickets and one is for yourself, is

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Speaker 3: that part of the gift budget or is that I

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Speaker 3: have an opinion I want to hear YOURSLF.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, gift budget is interesting to me, but I

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01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 4: guess people do that, which is totally fine. But to me,

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01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 4: it's like it doesn't have to be an exact Apples

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01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 4: for Apple right gifts no judgment, like you shouldn't judge

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01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 4: me if you know whatever, But I do think you

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01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 4: need to put some thought into it. I would say

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01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 4: it depends if you want to go see Beyonce's Renaissance

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01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 4: tour because she's your favorite artist and you listen to

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01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 4: her NonStop, and you really want to go with me,

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01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 4: and he want us to get and you want to

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01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 4: get tickets, and I give you on your birthday Beyonce

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01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 4: Renaissance tickets and I'm the one going with you. I

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01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 4: still think that counts unless we both love Beyonce right equally? Yes, right,

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01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 4: So I think it would depend on right, is it

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01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 4: a gift truly for you or is it for us?

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01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:00,479
Speaker 5: Right? Because I think if it's just for you, then yes, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think if it's if the giver, let's say the

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01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 3: giver doesn't even want to go, yes, and they buy

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01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 3: two tickets, then it's a gift. But if the giver

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01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 3: does want to go, you're just buying you would have

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01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 3: bought it anyway. Yeah, that's part of the budget.

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01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is why I'm like those gifts should just

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01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 4: let's get rid of those. That's not a Christmas, that's

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01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 4: not in a budget, that's not that. I'll just do

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Speaker 4: something different and then we'll still go to do that, right.

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Speaker 3: I was going to go anyway, and now I bought

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Speaker 3: your tickets.

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01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can't count your enjoyment as part of

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01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 3: their no presence, and.

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01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 4: You might enjoy the Beyonce concert even if you don't,

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01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 4: even if you're not like Jones and the go I

1395
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 4: did this recently.

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01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 5: I went to the Beyonce concert. I did too, and

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01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 5: it was fun.

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01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 4: But it's not like I'm not like, Ooh, Renaissance tours

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Speaker 4: coming up, you know.

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01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 3: I'm just like, oh, there's a nice tick.

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01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 5: Yes, sure I'll go. You know.

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01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 3: Is that how your That was my experience. My friend said,

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01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 3: do you want to go to Beyonce tonight? I was like, well,

1404
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 3: of course I do.

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01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 4: Well no, my girlfriend definitely wanted Beyonce tickets, so it

1406
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 4: was like she wants to got a renaissance tour. So

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01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 4: I was like, I will get us tickets, you know,

1408
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 4: But I went with her, but it wasn't.

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01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 3: Like it wasn't your priority.

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01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, Beyonce is a fantastic artists. All

1411
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 4: you might have some fantastic.

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01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 3: They are leaving horrible reviews and I loved it.

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01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 4: It was so fun. The concert was so fun. But

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01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 4: I just think it just the context man is right.

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01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that we came together in a beautiful

1416
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 3: way on this. I think. I mean, let's be honest,

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01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,959
Speaker 3: Audra just came with some things that she should have known. Yeah,

1418
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 3: these are some she's just begging for attention. Yeah, she

1419
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 3: knows the answer to both of those. They were in

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01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 3: her heart the entire time, and she just wanted to

1421
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 3: write into the podcast.

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Speaker 5: Shame, I mean shame. I can't blame her, but also shame.

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01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Odra, you have your answers that you already had,

1424
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 3: and you basically cheated the podcast. She's stealing from the podcast. Yeh,

1425
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 3: she's stealing our listeners time. So shame, Yeah, shame, But

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01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 3: there are the answers for hopefully somebody else learned something.

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01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm hmm, echo what a I mean, this has

1428
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 3: been wonderful. I've got I have something to read, chainsaw man,

1429
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 3: I've never read manga before. Maybe this will open something

1430
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 3: in my brain.

1431
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe.

1432
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 3: And we answered Odder's question. Yeah, I mean Usher is

1433
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 3: gonna be picking strawberries or something in no time. He's

1434
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 3: gonna be having the time of his life.

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01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. The garbage situation has been dealt with. Yeah, and

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01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 3: I can remember the other two. Predator's jogging through.

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01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 5: President just shogging a little healthy habit.

1439
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 3: Everyone's like he's gonna kill it. Oh no, he's just working.

1440
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 3: Oh oh, he's finally taking care of him.

1441
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was getting a little old. The little bunch

1442
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 4: was coming out, don't you think Yeah, I think so.

1443
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 3: He's getting ready for.

1444
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 4: He's been missing all his spirit. Throws at me. I've

1445
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 4: hit me in years. He's fallen off. The brenad has

1446
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 4: fallen off. Honey, he can save the outside again.

1447
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for being Thank you so much. Listener.

1448
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 3: I mean, you've you're almost at the bottom of the mountain.

1449
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 3: This has been the ski trip of your life. You've survived.

1450
01:03:58,560 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 3: You thought you were going to freeze to death and

1451
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 3: the wilderness, but you're going to make it and you're

1452
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 3: going to appreciate life even more. The podcast is over.

1453
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 3: Get going, do whatever you need to do. It's over.

1454
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 3: I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an

1455
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 3: exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise Nelson,

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01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 3: and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't

1457
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 3: do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song,

1458
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 3: of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann.

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01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 3: You must follow the show on Instagram at I said

1460
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 3: no gifts. I don't want to hear any excuses. That's

1461
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 3: where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous

1462
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 3: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures

1463
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 3: of the gifts?

1464
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 4: And invit?

1465
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 3: Did you hear?

1466
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:52,439
Speaker 2: Fun? A man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest

1467
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 2: to me, you gotta come to me empty.

1468
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: And I said, no, guest, your own presence is presents enough.

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01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: I already had too much stuff, So how do you

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01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: dare to surbey me