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Speaker 3: It's Monday. I don't know. It's not victory Monday. It's
Speaker 3: not exciting Mondays on any of those Mondays. But it's Monday.
Speaker 4: I'm excited. We're here. You have a lot of essay
Speaker 4: real quick.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's actually Tuesday. Oh, today is Tuesdayday. That tells
Speaker 3: you all you need to know. Right here, off to
Speaker 3: a great start. It is Twoday. Think this is my
Speaker 3: boy right here. It's a lot of Look at the
Speaker 3: TOTEDO Championship Plaza outside in front of the Ford Center.
Speaker 3: Shannon is not here, but it is currently seventy degrees.
Speaker 3: The high seventy two, the low forty three winner is
Speaker 3: finally showing up a little bit. See how my boy
Speaker 3: took care of me all O the time, you take
Speaker 3: your phone out, you do weather, you do.
Speaker 4: All that stuff. You know what I mean? You didn't.
Speaker 3: This is why this is my boy. This is why
Speaker 3: he is who he is to me and will always.
Speaker 4: Be that jess on that one to me.
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Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: This is this an I in team and the original.
Speaker 3: The original was I but I brought it to the
Speaker 3: group to make it we you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: I brought it into the group for us to to
Speaker 3: make it a we thing. Cowboys. It was another game,
Speaker 3: fifth game in a row. Interesting stat Out of the
Speaker 3: four major North American sports Basketball, football, hockey, baseball, the
Speaker 3: Cowboys are the only team in any sport North American
Speaker 3: sport that has not won a home game in the
Speaker 3: year of twenty.
Speaker 5: Twenty four, oh.
Speaker 3: Dating all the way back to the playoff game against
Speaker 3: the Green Bay Packers, the Cowboys are zer for six
Speaker 3: at home and the year of twenty twenty four. This
Speaker 3: year at home, this season at home, they have been
Speaker 3: outscored by like twenty five points at home.
Speaker 5: That is crazy per game average.
Speaker 3: Yeah, average, per game they've been a scored twenty five points.
Speaker 3: When you add in what happened last night quick rundown.
Speaker 3: Shannon's not here, but he did send us. And I'm
Speaker 3: only doing this because you guys know, when you sit
Speaker 3: in this seat, you have to make it about you.
Speaker 3: And so we had our scores and predictions. Uh. The
Speaker 3: final score of the game last night was thirty four
Speaker 3: to ten. You guys, know who won the uh the
Speaker 3: score right? Yeah, yep, man, go ahead and get that
Speaker 3: powder right there on my back.
Speaker 5: I got it right.
Speaker 3: On the I almost got it right on the money.
Speaker 3: The final score, like I said, was thirty four to ten.
Speaker 3: My prediction was Texans thirty five, Cowboys nine. So yeah,
Speaker 3: that was that was That was pretty good. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: pretty good.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: I needed to talk to Vegas, right. I did not
Speaker 3: hit on my pick though. My pick was. I said.
Speaker 3: My stat was that Tankdlle had eighty yards in a touchdown. Uh,
Speaker 3: he did not have it, but it wasn't necessary. They
Speaker 3: had everything else that they wanted in that football game.
Speaker 3: So where do you guys want to start? Man, just
Speaker 3: give me your overall I'll start with you. Just give
Speaker 3: me your overall thoughts of what you saw last night,
Speaker 3: what you felt in that football game.
Speaker 6: We just continued, Jesse Kurt to be very very inconsistent.
Speaker 6: Whether it's our offensive line once again, our defense it's
Speaker 6: hell fast right into the half, our offense once again
Speaker 6: fell apart, did not give them any help, and it
Speaker 6: just wore.
Speaker 4: Down our defense.
Speaker 6: You know, bad play, off side holding, whatever dependalty may be.
Speaker 6: That's us at the most and opportune time. You open
Speaker 6: the game with a screen what for seventy plus yards
Speaker 6: and that right there, that's us. We have a sixty
Speaker 6: four yard field goal. We call it off. We marched
Speaker 6: down instead of trying to make sure we get the
Speaker 6: three points where we'd be in the game coming.
Speaker 4: Out of a half. Huh, we go for it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you know, and all of a sudden, we
Speaker 6: once again, I don't know about that punt team. Once
Speaker 6: again we think we're part of the offense instead of
Speaker 6: being a part of the defense.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So you know what it was. When I went back
Speaker 3: and I watched Uh. I watched the game this morning
Speaker 3: after I worked out, and the first play the game
Speaker 3: that you're talking about, Nico Collins takes the seventy seven
Speaker 3: yard screen to the house. For those at home, go
Speaker 3: back and watch the game right now. There was a
Speaker 3: penalty on that play. They said that larn Mee talks
Speaker 3: to the left tackle was an illegal man down the field,
Speaker 3: maybe like a yard ahead of where he should have
Speaker 3: banked it before the ball was caught. Go back and
Speaker 3: watch Laramie Tounson. He blocks Marius Leafil as he's blocking
Speaker 3: Mayor lea foul. He then with his off hand goes
Speaker 3: and blocks Malik Hooker. He's blocking two cowboy defenders at
Speaker 3: the same time as Nico Collins runs by his block
Speaker 3: for seventy seven yards. Like he has two NFL football players.
Speaker 3: We're talking about the guys who are playing at the
Speaker 3: highest level, the one percent of one percent. Now, Laramy
Speaker 3: Tonsil is good. He ain't that damn good. He ain't
Speaker 3: that damn good. And he blocked two dudes on the
Speaker 3: same play at the same time that led to a
Speaker 3: seventy seven yard touch down. It got called back. But
Speaker 3: it's just things like that that you look at it.
Speaker 3: You know, Kurt, I didn't have on my Bengo card
Speaker 3: that your backup quarterback who threw for forty eight yards
Speaker 3: last week would come into this game and have a
Speaker 3: resounding fifty five attempts passing the football.
Speaker 7: That's you know, I was thinking that you can't win
Speaker 7: that way. Obviously you can't win that way. But my
Speaker 7: next thought is what's the other what's the other choice?
Speaker 3: I mean, this game, when you look at this game,
Speaker 3: it wasn't a game at halftime, the game was seventeen
Speaker 3: to ten. This wasn't a game where you looked at
Speaker 3: and you were like, oh man, at halftime, we're down
Speaker 3: twenty five. So we come out of this half we
Speaker 3: got you were down seventeen to ten, and you got
Speaker 3: the ball at half like there was and I think
Speaker 3: in the third quarter before the leaving the third quarter,
Speaker 3: he already had thirty nine passing attempts Like this was like,
Speaker 3: this wasn't an accident. This was deliberate that they were
Speaker 3: going to go out there and pass the ball this
Speaker 3: much after we heard all week.
Speaker 6: Long, thank you Rico.
Speaker 3: Man Rico is the guy. He's who we're giving the
Speaker 3: ball to. He's who we're going to. And Rico had
Speaker 3: the ball for ten carries for thirty eight yards. He
Speaker 3: was three point eight yards of carry or whatever, twenty
Speaker 3: eight yard whatever the number was. Yeah, And it was
Speaker 3: in the first half, like.
Speaker 7: And then the very first play of the third quarter, and.
Speaker 5: Then after that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've listened to every show and I was like, man,
Speaker 6: is we gonna spur I show it a different way?
Speaker 4: But it's kind of hard to spur it a different way.
Speaker 4: It's just kind of hard.
Speaker 3: Like like what do you take what do you take
Speaker 3: from that game? Kurt? What do you what do you
Speaker 3: take from that game. Give me, give me a positive,
Speaker 3: a positive, Give me a positive, Give me a positive
Speaker 3: from that game. On my other show that I do,
Speaker 3: we have this segment that's called we called it's called tote.
Speaker 4: That thing, right right right.
Speaker 3: So the gist of this segment. Pat myself on the
Speaker 3: back again when you said, we have a segment, and
Speaker 3: that segment is called tote that thing. And the gist
Speaker 3: of the segment is you have to take something positive
Speaker 3: from last week's game and toted it into the next
Speaker 3: this week, Like, what is a positive that you took
Speaker 3: from that game that you can say, you know what,
Speaker 3: bring this into Bring this to Washington, Bring this to
Speaker 3: the Washington. You know.
Speaker 7: The easy one is the Turpin ran his second slant
Speaker 7: of the year and took it to the house.
Speaker 3: Which was textbook by the way, Yeah I'm talking about
Speaker 3: teach tape.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and he obviously off the line of scrimmage, digged
Speaker 7: his man and had blasted the speed. I mean, it
Speaker 7: couldn't ask for any better. And then he disappeared again,
Speaker 7: and so it would you know, maybe it's all because
Speaker 7: Rush didn't have time to do anything or what, but
Speaker 7: you would like to think maybe that's something they could
Speaker 7: try more than once a year.
Speaker 4: Okay, turp it the slant they score it was terrific.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he is the last two touchdowns at home.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 6: Wow, I'm told my thing over shown and Kendricks. I
Speaker 6: get told that right into last week, right into this week.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I shared the great story that I had with Overshown
Speaker 3: last week in the lunch room, and he told me
Speaker 3: he was going to break down more and I watched
Speaker 3: for it this game. Not as they're hard to break.
Speaker 6: He comming, and I think I heard a couple of
Speaker 6: his own players saying watch out.
Speaker 4: Yea, he would write you over.
Speaker 3: My boy is all like he's from Texas and they
Speaker 3: there their little bantra was all gas, no breaks. He
Speaker 3: lives it like he lives it to the fullest. Where
Speaker 3: he's going all gas, you know, no breaks.
Speaker 5: I just you're positive out of that.
Speaker 3: What I use the mind was, I was watching you
Speaker 3: lost Jake Ferguson that game to a concussion, and you
Speaker 3: kind of through his loss to kind of said, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: Brevin span Ford, you know this is a guy who
Speaker 3: was able to make you know when he came out
Speaker 3: of it was in Minnesota. I believe it was you know,
Speaker 3: he was a guy who was about yak yards and
Speaker 3: being able to make some plays in the passing game.
Speaker 3: So seeing him kind of get into the action. I'm
Speaker 3: already I've written off Luke school Makers as a player
Speaker 3: in general, but it was kind of cool to see
Speaker 3: Brevin span Ford. On my postgame show, my co host,
Speaker 3: he made a really good point, he said, going forward,
Speaker 3: when I watch games, I'm not watching in the hopes
Speaker 3: of wins and loss of the soda. So I'm looking
Speaker 3: at other players now, I'm looking at young players on
Speaker 3: our team, like you know, Yanyae Thomas getting an opportunity,
Speaker 3: Brevin span Ford getting the opportunity, you know, seeing with
Speaker 3: guys like Ryan Floyd Noid getting opportunities and Jonathan Mingo
Speaker 3: whatever however that happens. But like now I'm just looking
Speaker 3: at let me just look at all these other guys
Speaker 3: are being able to show up.
Speaker 7: Kind of said that is prest conference about we need
Speaker 7: to let these young guys develop. They need to come
Speaker 7: in a hurry, but we need to let them developed.
Speaker 5: But at the.
Speaker 7: Same time, or do you is it time to go
Speaker 7: all in on that play the young guys.
Speaker 4: Oh, I've been there. I'm with you.
Speaker 6: I'm with you. Whoever that guy is, tell him I've
Speaker 6: been there since training camp. I've been there.
Speaker 3: Since training camp.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, but I.
Speaker 6: Told you I'm not gonna pat my I'm gonna pat
Speaker 6: you on the back. That said fourth and long, Yes,
Speaker 6: pat on the back.
Speaker 3: But this is this is passive aggressive. Uh. When you
Speaker 3: say you're gonna pat me on the back to say
Speaker 3: what you said training camp is only you're already talking
Speaker 3: about it, don't put me into it. Don't be passive
Speaker 3: aggressive about patting yourself on the back. This guy and
Speaker 3: patch yourself on the back.
Speaker 4: And then I got it. I got a little scout.
Speaker 6: I can't tell you that scout is he already did
Speaker 6: the numbers on the draft.
Speaker 4: I tell you all, we're going to break.
Speaker 3: That's that's talk to you right there, to go on
Speaker 3: to break. Coming up next, we'll talk more about the game.
Speaker 3: We'll go through some of the numbers. We'll try we'll
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Speaker 3: therapy for you. Yes, we'll try to walk you through
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Speaker 3: We're in the hopium dealership now, we're dealing the hopium
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Speaker 3: there is some that we can probably pull out of this.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Hanging with the Boys. On this Tuesday
Speaker 3: Tuesday Tuesday episode, Cowboys defeated last night at and T
Speaker 3: Stadium thirty four to ten. This segment is brought to
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Speaker 3: postgame talked about, you know, we've won a lot of
Speaker 3: games over the last couple of years, the Cowboys, as
Speaker 3: you know, twelve and five, twelve and five, twelve and
Speaker 3: five over the last three seasons, and City said, now
Speaker 3: teams are are looking to take shots at us and
Speaker 3: basically embarrass us. And it has been I mean right now,
Speaker 3: they have not won a home game. And you saw
Speaker 3: what teams like the Saints did, and you saw what Baltimore,
Speaker 3: and you saw definitely what what Detroit did to them.
Speaker 3: And teams are you know, when you're down, you're down,
Speaker 3: and teams they step on you when you're down. Nate,
Speaker 3: you come from such great legacy, right, three time Super
Speaker 3: Bowl champion, had years though, how do you like you
Speaker 3: know that folks are coming into your home stadium looking
Speaker 3: to embarrass you, Like how would your focus be or
Speaker 3: what would your message be to kind of help, Like listen, guys,
Speaker 3: like it's all about pride at this point in time,
Speaker 3: Like what is it that you can you can stop
Speaker 3: being embarrassed at home?
Speaker 6: It It got to me to be personal, you know.
Speaker 6: And I'll give you a game with Washington Commanders. And
Speaker 6: I've told this before. Uh, Wilbert Marshall was playing for
Speaker 6: him and they were beating us, beating us pretty bad.
Speaker 6: It was like laid in the third quarter, maybe into
Speaker 6: the four and they were still trying to sackles, still
Speaker 6: trying to beat us down. And I'm like you, homeboy,
Speaker 6: you know, because even Floorda, I'm like, man, Homemiane, y'all
Speaker 6: y'all beating us, y'all the cowboys, everybody give you all
Speaker 6: the credit.
Speaker 4: Y'all ain't nothing.
Speaker 6: We're gonna treat y'all like trash. I just told them
Speaker 6: to your homeboy, and I'll never forget it. I told
Speaker 6: him you last, homeboy, and I and I finished that
Speaker 6: season strong.
Speaker 4: Because I knew.
Speaker 6: I was like, Wow, this thing is went beyond whether
Speaker 6: it's me and you getting at it. It's about the
Speaker 6: whole organization and the weight that we carry as players
Speaker 6: and the responsibility we have because people is going to
Speaker 6: pound us in the ground. That's when I first realized
Speaker 6: that it is something special about being a cowboy and
Speaker 6: that it is something that you have to work to
Speaker 6: maintain that standard of winning. And I don't know if
Speaker 6: these guys understand what I'm talking about, but they need
Speaker 6: to get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they need to get it.
Speaker 7: You think they can carry that weight, the weight of
Speaker 7: being a cowboy.
Speaker 6: It just depends on what the what the future holds,
Speaker 6: what the coaches are. It's easy to say you still
Speaker 6: got the player's ear, but we're not over there.
Speaker 4: I mean they played hard.
Speaker 6: Are they playing hard because they don't want to put
Speaker 6: that bad stuff on film? Are they playing hard to
Speaker 6: stay within the scheme to help the team win. Everybody
Speaker 6: got their own motive now, and so you got to
Speaker 6: search each player and look at each player and say,
Speaker 6: what is his motive?
Speaker 4: You know, how is he this type of like overshown?
Speaker 4: We just know who he is. Like you say, gas to.
Speaker 6: The pedal and no break. Yeah, we know that. We
Speaker 6: know Kendricks. He ain't gonna stop. This dude was celebrating
Speaker 6: every time he got a hit for a loss or
Speaker 6: no game, he was getting up.
Speaker 4: He was ready.
Speaker 6: So you see guys like that, well, do they have
Speaker 6: a big enough influence? Whereas yesterday we didn't see Parsons.
Speaker 6: You know, hear about him being a savior and being
Speaker 6: a light and all of this. I don't think he
Speaker 6: did an interview. So that that guy there, even though
Speaker 6: he's great player, great talent, his game is if I
Speaker 6: get off, I'll preach to everybody. If I don't, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna hit out, you know. And that's don't knock on him.
Speaker 6: He's been doing and we let.
Speaker 4: Him do it and we ain't hold him responsible. So
Speaker 4: now it is what it is.
Speaker 3: Kurt to your memory when you, you know, were watching
Speaker 3: the game yesterday, Nate, you were in attendance and the
Speaker 3: TV broadcast kept showing the aerial shots of the area shots,
Speaker 3: but the big picture of the stadium. A lot of
Speaker 3: empty seats, a lot of empty seats in that stadium.
Speaker 3: You know, Nate, we were talking offline and you said, man,
Speaker 3: Houston came out, they are a lot of red in
Speaker 3: that building. Like do you remember a time where it
Speaker 3: was like this? Where has has it come to a
Speaker 3: point where the fans have finally said we're tired. We're
Speaker 3: sick and tired of being sick and tired of putting
Speaker 3: our money, time, energy, all our resources in the coming
Speaker 3: of these games and we're not getting the performances that
Speaker 3: we want because I don't remember a time in my
Speaker 3: I mean I've been here since two thousand and nine,
Speaker 3: so my fifteen years in the DFW, I don't remember
Speaker 3: a time where you looked into the stands and you've
Speaker 3: seen in week ten and week eleven when you saw
Speaker 3: the standard that were like.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's it's different this year. I think fans
Speaker 7: are really really frustrated with what's what's happening. You know,
Speaker 7: it's always just as when the Cowboys go other places,
Speaker 7: those stadiums are full of Cowboys fans, and I think
Speaker 7: this is such a destination for fans of other teams
Speaker 7: that you know, the Saints they bring a crowd, the
Speaker 7: forty nine ers bring a crowd. Detroit had a good one,
Speaker 7: and in fact that Texas or the Texans are just
Speaker 7: down the road and a good team, and given what
Speaker 7: it was, you know, you knew there was going to
Speaker 7: be a strong fan base for them there with that said,
Speaker 7: it just still it seems even worse this year. I
Speaker 7: think just frustrated Cowboys fans. They're like, I'm selling.
Speaker 4: My had.
Speaker 6: And when the game first started you could tell you
Speaker 6: could hear excuse me, I'm sorry. We was in the
Speaker 6: press box. You can just hear I fans dominate, dominate.
Speaker 6: But as the game went on, Yeah, and then it
Speaker 6: kept Paul saying and making aws, making the nows.
Speaker 7: That's Dallas has enjoyed that on the road for years. Yes,
Speaker 7: they I mean you're going back to your days. It
Speaker 7: was just you go to Arizona or something. It was
Speaker 7: a Cowboys home game. Yes, right, I don't know. It's
Speaker 7: just the way the things are now. It's been so long.
Speaker 7: Fans are frustrated and they're willing to sell sell some tickets.
Speaker 3: And normally you like and when things are going bad,
Speaker 3: you kind of hope things happen towards the end of
Speaker 3: the season, like you look up and you go, we
Speaker 3: got seven more games.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's kind of the brilliant.
Speaker 3: Like we have seven more games, and you have to
Speaker 3: ask yourself, like how bad could this possibly get?
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, Like, yeah, I don't want
Speaker 6: to I don't even think about it.
Speaker 4: I just we got to live in the moment.
Speaker 6: I don't want to. I don't want to think about
Speaker 6: it because it just takes it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm I'm a diehard fan, so you know I'll
Speaker 6: be selling out myself sometime and you you know, playing
Speaker 6: selling out and I know what to deal so I'd
Speaker 6: be selling out anyway just to show that you ain't
Speaker 6: gonna get the best of me.
Speaker 3: But it's God, Hey, So we talk about what happens out,
Speaker 3: you know, off the feeling and how the fans are
Speaker 3: kind of fed up and stuff like that. But then
Speaker 3: you watch the game and you're seeing certain things that
Speaker 3: happen in the game. We see the bonus fossil for
Speaker 3: was it the second week in a row and they
Speaker 3: try a fake field second of two or three, two
Speaker 3: or three weeks they try a fake field goal. You
Speaker 3: see them take points off the board, trying to drive
Speaker 3: the ball down and get to the goal line. It's
Speaker 3: fourth and two. They don't turn the ball, like has
Speaker 3: desperation fully set in?
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, is there?
Speaker 7: I think they realize there just points are going to
Speaker 7: be a struggle, and so they've got to pull out
Speaker 7: all the stops every trick in the bag, and sometimes
Speaker 7: it works.
Speaker 4: One does is one stat that tells you that it's desperate.
Speaker 3: What's that?
Speaker 4: Fifty five passes that? That right there? That right there?
Speaker 6: And then and you know, I got so mad up
Speaker 6: in the press Jess and Kurr to in the middle
Speaker 6: of the third quote, I say, you know what, I know,
Speaker 6: I'm talking to Jesse.
Speaker 4: I know I'm talking to Jesse, but can you run up?
Speaker 4: I said, your office line is beat up. I said,
Speaker 4: this ain't no game. You're gonna win.
Speaker 6: Even I almost wanted the other guy to get in,
Speaker 6: like this is not gonna work.
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny you were talking to me and
Speaker 3: I was literally talking to you because it was it
Speaker 3: hit me you said on our show a week ago,
Speaker 3: and you had it was an emotional plea. It really
Speaker 3: was to Zach Martin and when when they showed him
Speaker 3: down on the ground and you saw the look on
Speaker 3: his face, like I said, this is what Nate was
Speaker 3: talking about. Yes, Like, this is what Nate was talking about.
Speaker 3: And you know that he's not going to quit. You
Speaker 3: know that he's not going to give up because that's
Speaker 3: just not in him. And I don't know the extent
Speaker 3: of what his injury is, But does that give the
Speaker 3: window for him to go.
Speaker 7: Big fella, especially in the sequence of games take take
Speaker 7: a couple of days off.
Speaker 6: I talked to him before the game. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 6: I made a beatline to him. I said, what's up, Warrior?
Speaker 6: He said, I'm getting through. I say, and I tried
Speaker 6: to tell him what I've like, Nah, I'm gonna make
Speaker 6: it through.
Speaker 4: I said, you more of a warrior than I am,
Speaker 4: because you know I'm gonna make it through. And when
Speaker 4: you know, when they had.
Speaker 6: Him like that, I said, okay, well, just I just
Speaker 6: almost started crying.
Speaker 3: Man, No, I'm like god, I felt the emotion. When
Speaker 3: I looked, I said, this is what Nate was talking about.
Speaker 3: And I said, over there, I'm like noll them go
Speaker 3: out on his shield, and I said, this is what
Speaker 3: he was talking about, and this is part of what
Speaker 3: Michael was talking about. It's it's I now have to
Speaker 3: watch it. And again, I don't know the extent of
Speaker 3: his injury, but I do know before the game even
Speaker 3: started he was dealing with something He's been dealing with,
Speaker 3: the shoulder ankle, my ankle, you know, And I'm just like, boy,
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, like this would be the last image
Speaker 3: you see of Zach, Like this could possibly be you,
Speaker 3: and it's it's it's what am I looking for. It
Speaker 3: is to see you called him a warrior. I think
Speaker 3: that's a great term. To see the warrior down on
Speaker 3: his knee where he's like kind of fought his last battle,
Speaker 3: where he's kind of like a soldier mentality, where I've
Speaker 3: given you everything I got and now I'm down here
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm broken, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I felt that like I seen that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt that, like I watched him. I looked
Speaker 3: at the face and I said, this is what Nate
Speaker 3: was talking about. To give this man some decent sy
Speaker 3: sometimes and just say, hey, don't go out like this.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. At least give yourself a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks off and maybe come back closer to
Speaker 3: healthy so that you can have a lasting picture of
Speaker 3: what you once were. Right, But to see that, see
Speaker 3: that player down on one knee and looking dejected, looking hurt,
Speaker 3: looking like I've given everything that I got.
Speaker 7: I don't see him or some of these other guys
Speaker 7: or I mean, it's such a quick turnaround. You know,
Speaker 7: six days you're playing and four more you're playing again.
Speaker 7: It's it's I don't know how you know.
Speaker 6: I call them crowd trainers. Coffin's like drackling, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. And they probably got like eight guys
Speaker 6: just sitting in that land back.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's going to sleep in the things. Man, we'll wake
Speaker 4: you up with the game stars.
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, have you ever been in that much?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: No, I haven't either, And I don't want to be brow.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be either. No. I mean I've hurt,
Speaker 3: but I ain't hurt like that.
Speaker 4: But you've been through some stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not like that.
Speaker 3: You've been through your owne.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: and non text entries. The game's over, Yes, fifth loss
Speaker 3: in a row. You're reeling, you're hurting, you're embarrassed. All
Speaker 3: of the things are above. You got a game in
Speaker 3: six days. You got a game in six days. It's
Speaker 3: it's verse a division.
Speaker 5: Opponent who said ten days off?
Speaker 3: Who's had ten days off?
Speaker 5: And is that a home games in Washington?
Speaker 3: It's in Washington, Okay. To take a turn from CD.
Speaker 3: If you think those other teams were trying to embarrass you, Oh,
Speaker 3: dan Quinn will try to get his rocks off. Dan
Speaker 3: Quinn is gonna try to get his rock his old
Speaker 3: boss and his old team is coming to his new home.
Speaker 3: He's going to try to get his off against the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: And it ain't gonna be no taking, no needs at
Speaker 3: the end of the game. It's gonna be some college
Speaker 3: style stuff. It's gonna be point styling and profiling.
Speaker 4: Nate.
Speaker 3: How do you turn the page? You you yesterday's done.
Speaker 3: The guys are hurting, they're reeling. How do you turn
Speaker 3: the page and lock in and get focused for the
Speaker 3: Washington Commanders.
Speaker 6: When they walk in tomorrow. Just start talking game plan
Speaker 6: and some guys. You walk up to guys that you
Speaker 6: think are specially Hey, man, I need this from you.
Speaker 6: I need you gotta do this for me. We we
Speaker 6: gotta turn this thing around. You gotta go to guys
Speaker 6: you think that you can impact, and you got to
Speaker 6: start talking to them as coaches. You know everybody you
Speaker 6: can't unpack and you know who those guys is by now,
Speaker 6: So you go to the guys, Hey man, I need
Speaker 6: this man needs you to ride of the guys. Hey,
Speaker 6: that's don't that's don't let things get lacked, lax in practice.
Speaker 6: That's continued with the you know, being upbeat. You know
Speaker 6: you you just gotta anywhere you can link in or
Speaker 6: put your fingers and clause into somebody. You got to
Speaker 6: as a coach, you know, because you know I said yesterday, Uh,
Speaker 6: it ain't just the coaches now fighting for their lives.
Speaker 6: It's over a third of this team. If they're not
Speaker 6: smart enough, somebody need to tell them you don't have
Speaker 6: a contract. So they're fighting for their lives. Shoot, So
Speaker 6: those the first guys. I'm hey, man, you're gonna get
Speaker 6: trying to ge us run this week. Need for you
Speaker 6: to be prepared, need for you to be locked in
Speaker 6: in the meetings.
Speaker 4: Hey, if you can.
Speaker 6: Get some extra in, let's do this. Bring a partner,
Speaker 6: let's go. I mean, it ain't that you begging. It's
Speaker 6: just like, but me and you really now we're on
Speaker 6: the same page. I'm fighting, you fighting let's do this together.
Speaker 5: It definitely has to come from the place. Can't come from.
Speaker 6: Well, the thing about it is the coaches and how
Speaker 6: many games have we played?
Speaker 4: Ten? Ten?
Speaker 6: You ain't got to them yet. I'm just being honest.
Speaker 6: I'm a Mike fan. I'm down with Michael from Pittsburgh. Yeah, John,
Speaker 6: Michael John, Yeah, Michael John, I'm down with him.
Speaker 4: I'm down with him.
Speaker 6: But uh, when you start losing, that is one of
Speaker 6: the most hurting feelings and confusing feelings because what worked
Speaker 6: a year ago, the little uh snatty things you could
Speaker 6: say to get everybody popping and jumping, you won't even
Speaker 6: try it now because, guys, for real, we just lost
Speaker 6: our fifth in the row at home and this is
Speaker 6: what this the speech you got? So now it's it's
Speaker 6: down the business. It's living in the moment. Each moment.
Speaker 6: Uh what what is that thing they used to the
Speaker 6: music come on and they say the Ojoe moment?
Speaker 4: Every everything is a Joe moment. Now lock it in.
Speaker 4: Every everything is.
Speaker 6: Jesse had a coach, special team coach that loved him.
Speaker 6: He could come to Jess and and say, hey, man,
Speaker 6: I need you Jo. Yeah, so you gotta be looking
Speaker 6: I'm telling you, hey, man, I need you.
Speaker 5: Can they do that?
Speaker 7: Though, considering they're all lame duckt.
Speaker 3: So my question was going to be to you. Kurt
Speaker 3: was very similar along those lines, and we heard talks
Speaker 3: during the playoffs last year that you know, Dad Quinn
Speaker 3: wasn't as focused because he's entertaining other jobs. Jerry said
Speaker 3: on the fan this morning that there are thirty two
Speaker 3: coaches on this staff. Thirty two. There's thirty two coaches
Speaker 3: from your head coach to the assistance, assistance and analytic people.
Speaker 3: How many of those right now? You're thinking of looking
Speaker 3: up and they're going, I'm Zim is gone, Mike's gone.
Speaker 3: I need to start looking out for me. So now
Speaker 3: I'm I'm taking the phone calls. I'm I'm reaching out
Speaker 3: to other potential head coaching candidates for the future, Like
Speaker 3: I'm looking at some college situations. I'm looking over here,
Speaker 3: like where do you think the ten should all the coaches?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Who who? Look it up and saying the Titanic is
Speaker 3: sinking and I'm gonna find.
Speaker 5: Me a door to get on yeah.
Speaker 3: Before we hit rock bottom.
Speaker 7: Wow, that's tough though, because I would think and there
Speaker 7: are balanced players and coaches alike, because if you're not
Speaker 7: focused on what you're doing and you're producing a bad
Speaker 7: product on film, that hurts your.
Speaker 6: And I talked to saying just what you're saying. He's saying,
Speaker 6: my players gonna prove me worthy. You know, my players
Speaker 6: gonna prove me worthy. And if they don't, we'll all
Speaker 6: be sitting on the bench.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: So I talked to a coach yesterday. You know, I
Speaker 6: just used the sign just to hey, man, are you
Speaker 6: connected to coach McCarthy? Yes, I'm connected to him all
Speaker 6: the way. So when you said thirty two, that mean
Speaker 6: from the head coach to the weight room. Yeah, and
Speaker 6: the assistance to him too.
Speaker 4: They all hooked. So who's to say that Miss Joe
Speaker 4: may wake up.
Speaker 6: And say, you know what, I can't get rid of
Speaker 6: everybody who's Stephen, who's the most important?
Speaker 4: Can we keep this group of people? Keep this group
Speaker 4: of people?
Speaker 6: Or he may welcome and say, you know what, man,
Speaker 6: I'm the GM and I'm the owner too, and.
Speaker 5: About it, Yes, I don't. If they're going to.
Speaker 7: Look for a new coach, they need to let that
Speaker 7: coach decided staff not keep this guy.
Speaker 5: That guy here.
Speaker 3: That sounds like the right thing to do. But we listen.
Speaker 3: We've been around here long enough to see when we've
Speaker 3: had new coaches come in and had listen, when you
Speaker 3: get here, here's your offensive coordinator. Hey, here's your here's
Speaker 3: your defensive coordinator, your tight end coach. Yeah, like you
Speaker 3: like you don't get to pick everybody. There's some folks
Speaker 3: that I you know that I that I want on
Speaker 3: thisicular staff. So this is it's just it's tough, man.
Speaker 3: You know, in games we're talking like seven games left.
Speaker 4: Oh, we gotta quit talking like this.
Speaker 3: Seven games left. And now I guess the most important thing.
Speaker 3: And I'm I'm sticking to my timeline. I'm I'm steadfast
Speaker 3: at that timeline because everyone now is going all right, man,
Speaker 3: we didn't see it. We didn't see what Cooper Rush
Speaker 3: has done. We seed him go for forty eight yards
Speaker 3: last week. We seen him have three fifty plus this week.
Speaker 3: But it don't look good. It don't. It don't look good.
Speaker 3: And I thought I thought Cooper Rush had moments in
Speaker 3: that game. Well, I mean, he looked more comfortable, my
Speaker 3: captain obvious moment. I was like, heah, he's playing much
Speaker 3: better than he did last week. You know, like dug
Speaker 3: obviously he did that when he got one hundred yards,
Speaker 3: he doubled. He doubled what he did last week, Captain obvious.
Speaker 3: But there were times like, okay, he's moving the ball
Speaker 3: like he does, look more comfortable. He is anticipating a
Speaker 3: little bit more. But the elephant in the room for everybody,
Speaker 3: especially now when everyone's fishing for straws on what is what?
Speaker 3: What is there to look forward to? The question comes up,
Speaker 3: when do we see Trey Lance? Do you guys feel
Speaker 3: like and and Jerry was very adamant last night that
Speaker 3: Cooper Rush gives them the best Mike McCarthy the same way.
Speaker 3: Do you guys have a potential timeline where the colbum
Speaker 3: may go? All right? I know mine is.
Speaker 6: After these two games, after these two games. It's it's
Speaker 6: so short of a week, after these two games.
Speaker 7: The only reason I would consider playing him sooner than
Speaker 7: that is your line is so beat up you might
Speaker 7: need somebody to get out of there, scramble out of there,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's it's a bad situation. You know.
Speaker 7: If they if they felt Cooper Rush was their backup
Speaker 7: guy all along and they weren't even gonna try Lance.
Speaker 7: Why did why did you give up a fourth round
Speaker 7: pick for him?
Speaker 3: So yeah, and that's that. That's again the conversation about
Speaker 3: Trey Lance comes down to, you know, you gave him
Speaker 3: the preseason reps, you gave a fourth round pickup for him,
Speaker 3: and why is it he playing right now? Why didn't
Speaker 3: he get the nod when when Dak Prescott went down
Speaker 3: with the hell the hamstring injury. I think Trey Lance
Speaker 3: appears on Thanksgiving? I think I do. Listen, we we
Speaker 3: live in a soap opera time. We are looking, we
Speaker 3: are we are looking and trying to find whatever storyline
Speaker 3: that we can possibly have that's going to give us
Speaker 3: something to talk about. And for the Cowboys, it's all
Speaker 3: about it like the the the playoff hopes.
Speaker 4: Are dead, yes, yes, yes, sir, yes right.
Speaker 3: Super Bowl aspirations for twenty twenty four ashes to ashes,
Speaker 3: dust to dust to those So now it's what are
Speaker 3: the storylines? How? You know we got we were looking
Speaker 3: talking in the back. We got two more prime time
Speaker 3: games left, we got right, we got two more prime
Speaker 3: time seven o'clock games. Uh, and then we got the
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving game and and you know this, this is still
Speaker 3: a business, is it still a business. Like we use
Speaker 3: it for entertainment, there's some folks that use this for business,
Speaker 3: and business means I gotta put butts in the seats.
Speaker 3: I gotta still be able to sell advertising. I still
Speaker 3: gotta be able to get people to come out and
Speaker 3: watch this thing. And I think that's the next storyline
Speaker 3: until my timeline has been for a while that I
Speaker 3: think this Washington game gets out of hand. I think
Speaker 3: you see that. You see the entry of Trey Lance
Speaker 3: in the second half or maybe the fourth quarter of
Speaker 3: the Washington game, and then it's all right, we're making
Speaker 3: a change for Thanksgiving. And I know that's been a
Speaker 3: short week. But being that he's moved up to the
Speaker 3: second quarterback, he's in the conversation, he's getting some of
Speaker 3: those first team reps in practice, not getting all of them,
Speaker 3: but he's getting some that working on some of those
Speaker 3: packages for him to run. And to your point, you know, Kurt,
Speaker 3: you might not have Zach Martin, yeh, Tyler Smith. He
Speaker 3: was already dealing with the knee last week. He's now
Speaker 3: added the same leg at the ankle too, so you
Speaker 3: might not have Tyler Smith. So your two booking guards.
Speaker 3: Is that a booking guard. I don't know, but your
Speaker 3: two guards, your two guards potentially may not be available
Speaker 3: to you. We know what Guidon is, we know what
Speaker 3: Terren Steel is. So now you're looking at You're going, jeez, Luis,
Speaker 3: this is gonna be difficult. But such as life, we
Speaker 3: move on. This one is in the books. Cowboys lose
Speaker 3: the Battle of Highway forty five to the Houston Texans
Speaker 3: thirty four to ten. Our focus now turns on taking
Speaker 3: that trip to DC to take on the Washington commanders. Tomorrow.
Speaker 3: We'll look at we'll look at the film. We'll look
Speaker 3: at the film, and we'll do Cowboys offense versus the
Speaker 3: commander's defense. And hell, we'll turn the pains and get
Speaker 3: ready for Washington. Man for Kurt, for Nate, for Chris Beaming,
Speaker 3: and back for Josh, for Jazz, for you, I'm Salt
Speaker 3: and Pepper, Poppy. We are hanging with the boys until
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