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Speaker 1: Welcome to the College Football Apostles.

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Speaker 2: Gar Garrison here as your leader, as your college football

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Speaker 2: apostles man.

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Speaker 1: Because life's like a puzzle, you don't need all the pieces.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes one is all you need. Sometimes people will call

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Speaker 2: that a picture, but it's really a puzzle.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, George, what are you doing.

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Speaker 1: Being a dad kid? Wanted to do Minecraft? Dad in

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Speaker 1: on Minecraft?

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Speaker 2: I you know what this says about me though? What

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Speaker 2: if you're Jason and they don't want to do themes?

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Speaker 3: No, if you're Jason Momoa and I'm your short, fat

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Speaker 3: white friend that likes Oh you're Steve's lava Chicken. Yeah, cool, cool.

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Speaker 3: I guess I'm Jack Black?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Uh fun fact. Nobody knows this. Uh. Jack Black's cinematic

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Speaker 3: breakout role was since it is Halloween, I Still know

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Speaker 3: what you did last summer? I need people nobody remembers this.

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Speaker 3: This was these, This was the cast of I Still

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Speaker 3: Know What You Did last summer? Brandy Mackay Pfeiffer and

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Speaker 3: Jack Black. What. Yeah, you had Jennifer Hugh and Freddy Prince,

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Speaker 3: but that's who they replaced Sarah Michelle Geller and uh

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Speaker 3: and Ryan what's his name? With Ryan fleep. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: Brandy is in I still know what you did last

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Speaker 3: summer and it's Jack Black's first movie role and he

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Speaker 3: plays a white Rastafarian.

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Speaker 2: I need to I need to go see the preview

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Speaker 2: of that one again because I haven't seen that white.

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Speaker 3: And if I had known you were doing this, I

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Speaker 3: would have been white Rastafarian Jack.

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 2: I didn't grow up wearing costumes. Dude, Like, I didn't

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Speaker 2: celebrate Halloween. I was at Hallelujah n a w uh

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Speaker 2: what do you mean was Witness No?

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Speaker 1: No, no, nope, nope.

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Speaker 3: Group Black, Black, Israel.

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Speaker 2: Hite, No, just the regular old Christian, non denominational. So

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Speaker 2: I never I was always at Hallelujah United and didn't

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Speaker 2: celebrate Halloween. And then when Roman was born, like I

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Speaker 2: was kind of still into that, you know, so I

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Speaker 2: kind of poop pooed it with the kids, but I

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Speaker 2: would let them dress up.

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Speaker 1: And then.

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Speaker 2: Denisia finally got me to dress up a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago when I did the uh mighty uh not

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Speaker 2: mighty pups.

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Speaker 1: What's the what's the other ones that? Like it's the.

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Speaker 3: Same, Oh the dogs, the cop dog?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, Oh, Chas is on the case. Yeah, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the pups. So I dressed up as that and had

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Speaker 2: a cool suit. So I've done it a couple couple

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Speaker 2: of times now.

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Speaker 3: But so the you're like late to late to Halloween.

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Speaker 3: That's fun.

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Speaker 2: So the kids had So I've been to the kids school,

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Speaker 2: like they have these parades and all of this stuff,

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Speaker 2: and people were I was not even recognized. I'm always

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Speaker 2: at school, was not even recognized there. H the volleyball

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Speaker 2: coach who my daughter plays for, was like, uh. She

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Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, who is that. Who's that

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Speaker 2: big white guy standing next to Kenyon Kenyon Martin. This

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Speaker 2: is what she says to her her husband, and because

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Speaker 2: she's looking at me from the back, she was like,

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Speaker 2: I've never seen this dude before in my in my life.

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Speaker 2: And then her her husband was like, that's George. She

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Speaker 2: was like, that is not George. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: And then she peeked over to the side. She was like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, I did this this costume.

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Speaker 1: So like O. J.

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Speaker 3: Simpson dressed as Kato Kailin. So did you like then today,

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Speaker 3: I know your kids are in the Minecraft. Did you

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Speaker 3: like the Minecraft movie?

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Speaker 1: It was long? It was long, it was going on long. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was talking in the theater.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. It was just a little long

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Speaker 2: for me. I didn't think I was going to be

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Speaker 2: as well received as it actually was. But the kids

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Speaker 2: loved it. And when you make movies for for kids,

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Speaker 2: you make more more money because the kids can't go

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Speaker 2: to the movie theater all by themselves. A parent has

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Speaker 2: to take them or some adult so you so you

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Speaker 2: automatically sell way more tickets.

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Speaker 3: You're right, I loved about that movie. Is it highlighted

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Speaker 3: just how bizarre the Storage Wars people are. Oh like

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Speaker 3: they are trying to make rent off that stuff?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: All right, So you you ever been a storage I

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Speaker 3: know you like investments, you ever been a Storage Wars guy? Dude?

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Speaker 1: I used to love the show.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to do it, but I've actually been a

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Speaker 2: victim of Storage Wars. So I when me and the

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Speaker 2: wife when we were together, and this early on the

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Speaker 2: small house, big family, and so we needed some more rooms,

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Speaker 2: so we had to put some stuff in storage. When

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Speaker 2: we moved to a different house, I thought I got

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Speaker 2: everything out of storage, but there was a box that

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Speaker 2: like a shelf on it in it and I didn't

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Speaker 2: get the one box out of the shelf, and it

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Speaker 2: was her wedding dress.

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Speaker 1: Bro, nice expensive wedding dress.

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Speaker 2: And so about once every six months she's like, somebody

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Speaker 2: mentioned something about a wedding dress and I see and

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Speaker 2: I see her like die a little on the inside.

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Speaker 2: But then I try to make it better. And I say, babe,

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Speaker 2: it was one dress one day, like you know, I

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Speaker 2: love you, but you you were never gonna wear it again.

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Speaker 2: She was like, I could have given it to Devin.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, she's taught like that. It would

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Speaker 2: not it would not work. And she was like, whatever, George.

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Speaker 2: So I try to make it better, but there's no

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Speaker 2: making it better.

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Speaker 3: That's rough. That's a forever mistake that'll keep coming up.

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Speaker 1: I got a I just buy a new one.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: So do we renew our vals just so I can

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Speaker 1: get a new dress.

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Speaker 3: You might have to. You might have to, But that

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Speaker 3: dress is gonna have to be like enshrined, like you're

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Speaker 3: at a planet Hollywood restaurant. It's gonna have to be

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Speaker 3: in a glass cows.

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Speaker 1: You're right about that, bro.

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Speaker 3: You I got a storage story for you that involves

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Speaker 3: college football.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So my dad owns like a painting company and he

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Speaker 3: gets contracted out by the rental property management companies sometimes, okay,

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Speaker 3: and they'll you know, they'll flip stuff over so that

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Speaker 3: you just go in. If they left stuff, you'll move

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Speaker 3: pick it up and haul it off to like usually

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Speaker 3: it's not stuff they wanted to keep, so you know,

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Speaker 3: you call like a junk caller, they'll come take everything

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Speaker 3: their kids white boogers on the wall for a year.

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Speaker 3: So that's the rental flip business. And I would be

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Speaker 3: included in a lot of these painting, prepping, hauling, junk

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Speaker 3: and stuff like that. Did it from like very young age.

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Speaker 3: And one day we go to this house in Arizona,

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Speaker 3: uh and it's like a nicer house, and everything in

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Speaker 3: very evident, very quickly that this was an NFL player's

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Speaker 3: house that he was just in town because he was

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Speaker 3: on a team for a short amount of time. And

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you did, like when you had

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Speaker 3: your cup of coffee in New York, did you rent

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Speaker 3: a place for like a six month stretch, Like what

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Speaker 3: did you do?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I was in like a corporate housing type type place.

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Speaker 2: It was a it was an apartment like apartment condo

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Speaker 1: Furnished all of that stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I feel bad about this. I'm about to

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Speaker 3: admit to a crime. I will rectify if this player

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Speaker 3: watches this and it reaches out. But like we you know,

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Speaker 3: we go to this house and everything's kind of nice,

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Speaker 3: and I go into the closet and there is a

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Speaker 3: game worn Clemson Bowl jersey, and so it becomes very

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Speaker 3: evident who this player.

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Speaker 1: Is, yeah, because you see a name on it.

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Speaker 3: The last name, and then there's like shoes for days,

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Speaker 3: you know more, there's a lot more clothes than there

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Speaker 3: was furniture or anything else. And so we're moving everything.

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Speaker 3: We're hauling everything to the garage. And this man had

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Speaker 3: a five gallon water cooler jug in his closet filled

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Speaker 3: with quarters.

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Speaker 2: That's something that that you would see me have.

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Speaker 3: It is very like nineties early two thousands, Like in

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Speaker 3: every home is just a giant change jar. I have

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Speaker 3: like thirteen cents in my van's ashtray and that's all

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Speaker 1: Well, but I used to have a lot.

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Speaker 2: Now I don't because I don't even want to touch

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Speaker 2: them nasty coins now.

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Speaker 1: And you spend so.

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Speaker 2: Much with with with cat, with Cat, well with cards.

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 2: There was a point in time in my life where

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Speaker 2: I always at least had ten thousand dollars on me always.

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Speaker 3: And I saw ten thousand dollars one time.

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Speaker 2: In between ten and fifty thousand dollars because I just

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Speaker 2: play a lot of poker, and yes, a lot of poker, yes,

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Speaker 2: and some of these home games and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: But now I don't just a little throwaway comment home

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Speaker 3: poker games, not that those are in the news right.

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Speaker 2: Now, I know, right, Oh, dude, I made a video

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Speaker 2: about it, but I'm I'm nervous if I should even.

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Speaker 1: Put it out.

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Speaker 3: If you get yourself arrested by the FBI and make

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Speaker 3: for a good story, that that'd be good content, especially

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Speaker 3: if you get hauled away wearing that.

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Speaker 2: So all right, yeah, so dude, I hope I'm pretty

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Speaker 2: sure it's passed the Statute of Limitations on your on

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Speaker 2: your thievery well.

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Speaker 3: So as you can imagine a five gallon I think

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Speaker 3: five gallon water thing is forty pounds. Yeah, imagine it

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Speaker 3: three quarters the way filled with quarters. So I had

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Speaker 3: to get a dolly. I hauled the and you know,

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Speaker 3: there's probably a few hundred bucks in change in this

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Speaker 3: five gallon drum. But stuffed at the top was a

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Speaker 3: roll of ones. Stuffed it was like a makeshift lid

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Speaker 3: for the five gallon yeah thing, I pocketed the ones

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Speaker 3: I did. I was fifteen. I feel bad about it now,

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Speaker 3: but Patrick Sap, if you hit me up, I owe

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Speaker 3: you like one hundred dollars, all right, So.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing about it. So here's the thing about it.

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Speaker 2: You know how the Good Book says that when you

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Speaker 2: steal something, you got to pay it payback time time seven.

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Speaker 2: That's probably what what happened when your car got stolen

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Speaker 2: from the amp of.

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Speaker 3: That was my recompense for stealing one hundred dollars from

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Speaker 3: Patrick Sap when I was fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Well, what's crazy is like I don't know if he

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Speaker 3: ever got any of that stuff that. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if he got like the his dude soldier.

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes people lose stuff in stories that and like memorabilia

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Speaker 2: Matt Ruhle put out a video talking about how much

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Speaker 2: It is a bunch of scamming going on amongst people

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Speaker 2: This was scammer behavior. And I don't and I mean

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Speaker 2: You know that he's not just getting over that. He's

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Speaker 1: And yes, that's a good business move.

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Speaker 2: well that sounds like a hostage. Because if somebody's making

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Speaker 2: And I'm making I got twenty five here, one hundred here.

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Speaker 1: But there's not. But for some reason that's looked at poorly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if he was also he was going to go.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't going to be for money or not for money.

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Speaker 3: fully understandable. The other thing is Matt Rule started a

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Speaker 1: But I just.

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Speaker 2: you know, Alabama comes open, is he then gonna.

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Speaker 3: you have three very distinct situations. You have. I'm probably

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Speaker 3: there's alignment from top to bottom. So your athletic director

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Speaker 3: Your raises aren't necessarily contingent on the threat of somebody

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Speaker 3: I'm sure that's a line that Troy Dannon has fed

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Speaker 3: inside information or reason for it if you open the article.

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Speaker 3: It's just we got to throw some names out and

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Speaker 1: I don't what you mean.

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Speaker 3: So your boss is in on it with you. They

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Speaker 2: I see what you're saying, because and I've said this

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Speaker 2: everybody wants more money. I don't think that the ask

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Speaker 2: if you give me more resources, you will pay me

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you set me up for success. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: And and the thing is is that the thing that

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Speaker 3: Right. And so if you're Brent Key, or you're Jeff Brohm,

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Speaker 2: If where, if I'm where I want to be, I

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Speaker 1: Do the resources. Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: That's what I would say, because that explicitly says there

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Speaker 2: But because I gotta handle mine as far as coaching, winning, recruiting,

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Speaker 2: But that's just gar Garrison.

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Speaker 3: You know me, I'm a dumb ass. I'd be like,

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Speaker 2: Man, It's been a circus. So that that was my takeaway.

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Speaker 3: My main topic for you, George is did LSU go

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Speaker 3: but you have him coming out here and being like,

440
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: why would anybody go to LSU right now if the

441
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: government's involved?

442
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 2: The yes, and that because they don't have a president

443
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: of the school and this is not a a booster

444
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: funded I told everybody, and I said initially when I

445
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 2: did the reaction video, I said, Brian, I was like,

446
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: the reason why the governor had to get involved is

447
00:25:55,040 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 2: because this is a public money buyout and this is

448
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: not a privately funded buyout. And then there was some talk, oh,

449
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 2: there's a privately funded but I was like, so then

450
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: there's privately funded, why the hell you need to get

451
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: the governor involved?

452
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: Exactly. So, so now it's.

453
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: A situation where the head coach at LSU is therefore

454
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: a good time and not for a long time, Like

455
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: you don't make it their long term, Like when when

456
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 2: is the last time that they have had a a

457
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: long term head coach?

458
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm pulling up there there, Yes, that probably be it.

459
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: So you had oh.

460
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: So you had Brian Kelly there almost four years Ed

461
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: Oderon one, two, three, four, five years, Less miles.

462
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: Oh, that's good.

463
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 2: One two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,

464
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: twelve years, Nick Saban for five, Jerry DeNardo what four

465
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: or five years? Curly Hallman four years, Mike Archer four years. Dude,

466
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: this is a litany. You gotta go all the way

467
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: back to the eighth to nineteen seventy nine where you

468
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: had Charles McClendon there from sixty three to from sixty

469
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: two to seventy nine. Like, this has been a turnstyle

470
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: job outside of less Miles, and they would have got

471
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: less Miles up out of there if.

472
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: It were this era too.

473
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Speaker 3: I think that, Yeah, this feels like an NBA contract,

474
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: like a three year Supermax. You know, this feels like

475
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: a job that Kevin Durant would sign on for.

476
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, exactly.

477
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: So if you want to have any longevity with your family, stability,

478
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: any of that stuff, ls you went to place for you,

479
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 2: it is not. And also so LSU does have built

480
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: in recruiting advantages because it is ingrained into the state.

481
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: It's not like there's another college in Louisiana that people

482
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: are like clamoring to go to. I mean, of course,

483
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: Tulane is good, Louisiana is good. Yeah, I mean like

484
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: that LA Tech has had some some some history. But

485
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: you know, compared to other states, like if you if

486
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: you go to Georgia, there's Georgia, there's Georgia Tech. What

487
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: else is in Georgia.

488
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: Georgia Southern Georgia State.

489
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but like Georgia's king there, right, yeah, but

490
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: but Georgia Georgia Tech can make some in roads because

491
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: it's still a p for a school in Louisiana.

492
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Speaker 1: That's it. That's it.

493
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: In Florida, you got Florida, or to state Miami. Those

494
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: are a lot of options. So the kid, so you're

495
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: built in recruiting advantages is in the state of Louisiana,

496
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: so that yes, you do have But as far as winning,

497
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: that's different.

498
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: Bro.

499
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: You can win at almost anywhere now where you have resources.

500
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: And I think that that's the biggest difference is that

501
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: it's not that LSU is not a great job, because

502
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: it is because you can recruit there, but they also

503
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: have some financial limitations in that the state doesn't have

504
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: money like that. This is why the governor had to

505
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: get involved and why this is such a big deal.

506
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 3: Right, Now, if I'm LSU, and I can't even put

507
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: myself in that mindset, But if I'm LSU, I want

508
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: somebody who is that works really hard at the job

509
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 3: of trying to win football games, knowing that your school

510
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: is gonna recruit itself, knowing that NIL is about to

511
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: be regulated in a way where you can take that

512
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: job off of really the head coach's played altogether, and

513
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 3: it makes a boring dude like Matt Campbell attractive to

514
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 3: me in that situation of saying, we just need somebody

515
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: who knows how to coach college kids to win football games.

516
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: I'm not hiring Matt Campbell there. And I like Matt

517
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: Campbell a lot, So it's not that I don't think

518
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: he would be a phenomenal head coach. Number One, he's

519
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: a sitting power forward coach, which is a bad idea

520
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: to hire him somewhere else.

521
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Speaker 1: History says that doesn't work.

522
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: The last time it did work was somebody hiring somebody

523
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: away from Iowa State. Though, ironically enough, who uh your

524
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: boy that won with Cam Newton. He got hired out

525
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: of Iowa State after going to Yeah, gene Chiswick.

526
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

527
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: And then the other thing is I think that in

528
00:30:54,840 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: Louisiana you need somebody who understands the culture. I feel

529
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: like John Somemerl is the right guy for that job.

530
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: He's into lane, he knows Louisiana, knows the coaches there.

531
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: He'll be able to recruit at a very high level.

532
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: There is there something about being a lower level coach?

533
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: Is there something about being a low level coach where

534
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: you get your teeth kicked in if people mention you

535
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: for a job because they gave up thirty one points

536
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 3: in the first half last night to UTSA and.

537
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: Yes, bro, these coaching rumors cost And I was talking

538
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: to an agent and I talked about this on the

539
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: Live YA yesterday.

540
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: Is that.

541
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: These agents and some of these coaches are terrified of

542
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: these interviews right now, Ralph. They're terrified because they know

543
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: that at the point in time it gets out that

544
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: they are interviewing now, all of a sudden, people are

545
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: questioning their loyalty, their question in their like, their their commitment,

546
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: They're questioning everything. So now that I know that players, yeah,

547
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: and your best players are now like oh coaches shopping around,

548
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: maybe I should listen as well. And as soon as

549
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: you give the ear to the streets. The streets gonna

550
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: take some of it.

551
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: Now that I know that's true. Don't you think Matt

552
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: Campbell would be so good at LSU? I.

553
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, because they're they're playing as U. That's

554
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: dirty work right there, That's nasty work.

555
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: It wasn't my plan, But now that you said that,

556
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: that that there is a cost.

557
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think he would think about that.

558
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: As soon as the the the Matt rule rumors started,

559
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: Nebraska played their worst game of the season against Minnesota.

560
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm, the irony.

561
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: I have a So my son brought this up, and

562
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: it's for you and you only you'd laugh at this.

563
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: So I told him as a as a young Washington

564
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: fan who knows why. I was like, hey, you guys

565
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: might lose your coach. And he's like, everybody might lose

566
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: their coach. And I'm like, yeah, but you really might.

567
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: You know what I said, losing their coach.

568
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: Oregon.

569
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: You know who else is not losing their coach in Miami.

570
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 3: It's very funny how quickly you started flexing on people

571
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: that your coach isn't available when you when you were

572
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: a turnstyle program whoa Chim Kelly and Mario Christobal and

573
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 3: Willie Taggart. You're out here on your fourth marriage, given

574
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: marriage seminars.

575
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. They're not losing their head coach.

576
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: Hey, I will I will say, as a person covers

577
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: college football but also somebody who cares about it and

578
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: understands all aspects of this, it does feel nice to

579
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: know that your coach is not leaving.

580
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is nice. But I asked him. I was like,

581
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 3: what what do you want if you lose another head coach?

582
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: And he told me he goes Jerry new Heisel. Well,

583
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: this marketing works, those little clips you see on Instagram,

584
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 3: and he he didn't even know Jerry new Heeiseel's history

585
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: with his dad be in Washington. He didn't even know.

586
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: He just saw clips of Jerry new Heiseel leading post

587
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: game chance and he's like, that should be the next

588
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: head coach.

589
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: University of Washington's not the actual marketing coach Tim Tim Skipper.

590
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: But okay, and so that's a Tim Skipper stuff. I

591
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 3: gotta bring this up with you as a four fifths

592
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 3: white man. Every single post I see that that that

593
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: deals with Tim Skipper is like, this is racism, right.

594
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: I'm just want to float that out there, What is

595
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: your take on that?

596
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so so it's.

597
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: Very tell people what we're talking about. Tim Skipper is

598
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: the interim coach of UCLA.

599
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: Correct.

600
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 2: And but when whenever they win, you see Jerry new Heizel.

601
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: But then when they just got blown out by Indiana,

602
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: which everybody except Oregon has well and Iowa, they were like, oh, oh, Tim,

603
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: Tim Skipper, we sure he should get the head coaching job,

604
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 2: Like what And there were people who were floating about

605
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: that Jerry new Heisel should get the job. I was like,

606
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: first of all, he's thirty three. That doesn't mean that

607
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: he can't eventually be a big time head coach and

608
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: all this stuff. I was like, well, I guess they

609
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: could make him and his dad like co head coach

610
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: and he's the head coach in waiting because his dad

611
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: can be the adult in the room and but he

612
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: still be leading things. And then I was like, hold up,

613
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: how's that gonna play out? You don't hire Tim Skipper,

614
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: the guy who's right at.

615
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: The ship for little alleged whiz kid over over here.

616
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: That's not gonna play well in the like that ain't

617
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: gonna go over well. You would actually lose all of

618
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 2: the good will that Jerry Neuheisel has by by passing

619
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 2: up the guy who actually did the job for him,

620
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: that would not go over well. And then if you

621
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: add in that he's a black man too, it's it's

622
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: gonna get blown even more out of proportion.

623
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that the Internet will Internet for sure, and then

624
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 3: you will see it. You'll see an all time interneting

625
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: Internet reckoning if if that ends up happening. I do

626
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: want to stick on U c l A for a second, though,

627
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 3: as someone who has famously signed a letter that became

628
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 3: public having to do with hiring and firing out of college.

629
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 2: For those of you don't know, there was a there

630
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,479
Speaker 2: was a coach opening at Oregon and the players wanted

631
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 2: to be brought back into the program and have a say,

632
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: and decided that the man that would be best for

633
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: them is one that they used to play alongside, and

634
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 2: justin Wilcox, people signed their name to it.

635
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: I'll I'll give you, I'll give you the floor here

636
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: in a second. But I say all that to say this,

637
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 3: and George, you can you can explain yourself away, but

638
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 3: I also want your take on this. They say it

639
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: like fifty some former players just wrote a letter wanting

640
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: Martin Jerman to get fired at UCLA. You got some

641
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 3: connections at UCLA, so I just want to know what

642
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 3: is going on here and is this active way to

643
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: get what you want? Having participated in something similar.

644
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: So I was not first of all, yes, this is

645
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: a way to get what you want. But thank god

646
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 2: because I actually had to call Oregon's athletic director after

647
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 2: Joey put out because joe to go back. Joey Harrington

648
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: calls me, George, we want to talk about the program

649
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, like we feel like it's getting away

650
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 2: from the Oregon roots, right, the players aren't really back

651
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: and all this. I was like, hell yeah, And my

652
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: thing was, yes, Justin Wilcox should be considered for this job. However,

653
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 2: we can't just give him this job because he's got

654
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: to recruit better. He's got to be more intense in

655
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: that area.

656
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.

657
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: Believe that you can recruit the best class in the

658
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: nation to do Eugene and all of this stuff. And

659
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: then that got turned into so what Joey talked to

660
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: me about versus what was in the letter, It's two

661
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: different things. And then so I ended up talking to

662
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: the athletic director Rob Mullen. Devis was like Rob, Rob,

663
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: Rob Roy, Rob, hold on, I know my name's on there,

664
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: but this is not what I was saying. I was like,

665
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: we need to hire So me and Rob had some

666
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: private conversations about it. He was like, Okay, I understand

667
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: what you're saying. This makes sense. And then when the

668
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: Dan Lanning thing came up, I was like, oh, I

669
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: called and did some digging on Dan and I was like, oh,

670
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 2: this dude is legit. So I was on board with that.

671
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: I was one hundred percent on board with that. I

672
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: actually would have hired him over Justin Wilcox.

673
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: Do so what about UCLA? Do you think you think

674
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 3: this will have an effect? You think it'll change the

675
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: way Martin Jrynton does stuff? They issued us vote think.

676
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: That Martin jarmint made a good decision in the process,

677
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: the best decision that he could when he was dealing

678
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: with Chip Kelly, he had just got the job.

679
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: The prudent thing to do would have been to well.

680
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,479
Speaker 2: The best decision in hindsight would have been to fire

681
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 2: chip Kelly as soon as Martin Jarmond got the job.

682
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: That would have been the right thing to do. It

683
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: also would have been bully ball, like you just get

684
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 2: a job, you fire a guy like you don't even

685
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: have the full landscape of things, understand what's going on.

686
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: That's not always a prudent choice, you hear me.

687
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: And even if you wanted to bring your coach with

688
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 3: you from Boston College, he decided he didn't want to

689
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 3: coach college football anymore.

690
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 2: Yes, so, so I understand him not firing chip Kelly

691
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 2: at first, and then chip Kelly leaves late in the cycle,

692
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: at the point in time chip Kelly was starting to

693
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: interview for other jobs, I'd have been like, all right, bro,

694
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: it's of for you to go.

695
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: And then hiring Dashawan.

696
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: He was already on staff, they knew him in the building,

697
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: well respected, all of these things. The issue is is

698
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 2: that it was kind of like hiring an inexperienced head coach.

699
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: If I were the athletic director, be like, listen, you

700
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: have to bring some former coaches in on this. That

701
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: not former coaches, former head coaches. We need analysts, we

702
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: need this, we need that. And he was and Deshaun

703
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:20,959
Speaker 2: Foster was under resourced and under mentored. If that will

704
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: with other people who were in the building that had

705
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: done this previously, and I believe that that's why it failed.

706
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: I don't believe it was for lack of effort or

707
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: lack of anything like that. And I believe that Jarmid

708
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: made a decent decision in that situation hiring him. But

709
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: then they also pivoted off of it pretty quickly too.

710
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: I'm I'm cured because they they got to trust him

711
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 3: to make the hire. They were trying to get their

712
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: foot in the door to get him up out of there.

713
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 3: But now.

714
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: I think that Tim Skipper is going to if I

715
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: tell you, if he can win three out of the

716
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: next four games, absolutely, two out of the next four.

717
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: Possible.

718
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 2: Because they got USC Washington, Ohio State. They're definitely not

719
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: winning that game. And oh gosh, and then one more

720
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: game I can't think of.

721
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 3: Hold up, let me look, well, they got the intra

722
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 3: city rivalry.

723
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I said, USC. Yeah, they got USC Washington.

724
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: What if U c l A. What if USC beats Nebraska?

725
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 3: What if they get on the verge of a CFP

726
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 3: spot and it's U c l A that takes them down?

727
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 3: I do you think USC fans would react to that?

728
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: Oh? That would that would mean that they beat Oregon

729
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: if in your scenario and then they to U C.

730
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: L A, that would that would be fitting, That would.

731
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: Be very they would they would hate Lincoln Riley again.

732
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: I oh have we talked about though, and Josh Payton

733
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 2: talked about this, but I have brought it up as well,

734
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: but less so about the ACC but more about the

735
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: Big Twelve and the ACC how they can actually end

736
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: up with multiple playoff berths.

737
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 3: I did see Josh Pate talk about this a little

738
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: bit and he was kind of heavy on the ACC

739
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 3: side because not a lot of the teams play each other,

740
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 3: which is true. They have seventeen teams, yeah, and eight

741
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 3: conference games, so you're not going to play everybody. And

742
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: there are unique situations with like a Virginia and a

743
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 3: Miami where you know, if you get to the end

744
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: and you only have one loss, you can have a

745
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 3: one loss team not allowed to play in the a

746
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 3: SEC championship game yep, and then you have to give

747
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: them some consideration as well.

748
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you could end up with an eleven and

749
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: one Miami not in the conference championship game with a

750
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 2: win over Notre Dame, who then played, but then you

751
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: would have Georgia Tech in the conference championship game against

752
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: pick whoever you want to pick.

753
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 1: You know, you can go.

754
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: Virginia, Pit, Louisville, whoever you want to pick. And then

755
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: they beat Georgia Tech. So you got an eleven to

756
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: one Georgia Tech, who was inside of the top ten

757
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: for sure, because if they're if they're twelve, oh excuse me,

758
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 2: twelve and zero, Virginia Tech, who's gonna be a top

759
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: They're number eight right now, so they're probably gonna be

760
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: top six, top eight. And then you lose a conference

761
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: championship game. Are we gonna throw Georgia Tech all the

762
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: way out to put another SEC or Big ten team in?

763
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: And then you got Miami sitting at eleven and one,

764
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: so you can't put Notre Dame in and eleven and

765
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: one Miami out because they beat them. And then over

766
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve, you got a similar situation with BYU,

767
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: who is undefeated if they run the table. And then

768
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: people keep bringing this up about other conferences, but you

769
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: got the SEC with Techa and m Alabama, Georgia, Ole,

770
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 2: Miss and Vanderbilt. None of them play each other in

771
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: the rest of the season. Ralph Right and they're all

772
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: inside of the top ten.

773
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: So this is how we're gonna get This is how

774
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 3: we're gonna get a twenty fourteen playoff for stanwn our throat.

775
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: It's gonna be this season because they form these super

776
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 3: conferences and nobody plays each other. You do have a

777
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 3: very bizarre situation right now brewing in the Big Twelve.

778
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: Because let's say Nebraska doesn't lose again for the rest

779
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: of the season. Okay, that makes Cincinnati's loss to Nebraska

780
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: not so bad?

781
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: Yes, correct.

782
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 3: So what if Cincinnati beats Utah this weekend and then

783
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 3: eventually Texas Tech deals BYU their first and only loss,

784
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: and BYU turns around and deals Cincinnati their only Big

785
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 3: Twelve loss, you will have three eight and one teams

786
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 3: at the top of the Big Twelve. Cincinnati will not

787
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: have played Texas Tech. They'll have the extra loss to

788
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: Nebraska that went down to the final play. In that situation,

789
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: I'm assuming that means that Cincinnati doesn't get into the

790
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 3: conference championship because they have the worst overall one loss record.

791
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 3: But they're all tied at eight and one, so I'm

792
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 3: not actually one hundred percent sure if that's how the

793
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 3: Big Twelve is governed. Last year there was four seven

794
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: and two teams and I was state in Arizona. State

795
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 3: got to go. And I'm still not one hundred percent

796
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 3: sure why, yep, why it was so so that's good

797
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 3: to me. That's gonna be a really interesting scenario because.

798
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: So let's do a little paper math here. Okay, so

799
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: you got the SEC winner, so pick pick who you want.

800
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: That to be.

801
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: Let's assume right now it's Alabama.

802
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: Okay, you got Alabama.

803
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: Does Georgia lose to Georgia Tech, Yes or no?

804
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 3: No?

805
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: Okay? So then if Georgia actually let's let's assume.

806
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech beats Georgia Okay, okay, okay, so, and then

807
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech loses in the ACC Championship to Louisville.

808
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: Then you got Louisville with the automatic birth.

809
00:47:53,680 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: A twelve and one Georgia Tech team that beat Georgia.

810
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 2: So so then Georgia Tech is one hundred in the

811
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 2: playoff because you can't put Georgia in the playoff and

812
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 2: leave Georgia Tech out after they beat them in the

813
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: last game of the season, right, So, now then you

814
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: got the Big ten champion.

815
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 3: Who do you want to put in prior Ohio State.

816
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: Okay, Ohio State.

817
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,479
Speaker 2: I think the thing we're figuring out Ralph and doing

818
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 2: this is that we need more spots. So we got

819
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 2: the SEC, Alabama ACC Louisville, but then Georgia Tech gets

820
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: in Big ten Ohio State Big twelve?

821
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 3: Who gets in? So again, doomsday scenario. Let's say that

822
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 3: you have an eleven and one BYU playing an eleven

823
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 3: one Texas Tech in the Big twelve Championship and BYU wins,

824
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: which means BYU gets in, right.

825
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: Okay, so wait, but that would then eleven and.

826
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 3: One and eleven and one BYU in a scenario where

827
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: their only loss is to Cincinnati, who is ten and two,

828
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 3: whose only losses to Texas Tech. Do you keep a

829
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 3: ten and two Cincinnati team that's been to the College

830
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 3: Football Playoff already out? If they've got to win over

831
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 3: the college Football playoff team.

832
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 2: For BYU to finish eleven and one, they have to

833
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: hand Texas Tech another loss.

834
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they would have to beat Texas Tech twice in

835
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 3: this situation, so BYU's in, Texas Tech's for sure out.

836
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 3: But you have a ten and two Cincinnati team with

837
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 3: a win over BYU. Do you have to consider Cincinnati, yep, exactly.

838
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 2: So then you put Cincy on the bubble, and we

839
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: put BYU in, and I think we can put Indiana

840
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 2: in as well, okay, and then let's throw the G

841
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 2: six whoever that individual is. So we already got seven spots, okay,

842
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 2: and then we got is my Miami eleven and one

843
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: in this scenario.

844
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 3: They absolutely could be yeah, okay.

845
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: So now we got my three teams potentially, I mean,

846
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: what what are what?

847
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: What are we supposed to do?

848
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 2: And then we gotta get the the third big ten

849
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: team in assume that Oregon finishes eleven and one. They're

850
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 2: already at number six now, so now Oregon's in. And

851
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 2: then now we got nine spots taken, and I guess

852
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 2: we got.

853
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: To give the other three to the SEC. So then

854
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: we got text and.

855
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 2: M Georgia could be the odd man out because they

856
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 2: lost to George to.

857
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 3: Tech, Virginia could be eleven and one into the ACC Championship, but.

858
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: Then Georgia would have beaten Old Miss Yes, So then

859
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 2: it gets funky.

860
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 3: What if Virginia wins the ACC and their only loss

861
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 3: is to Notre Dame.

862
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: No, no, Virginia. I thought their loss was to n

863
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: C State.

864
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right. That's my fault.

865
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: That's my fault. Yes, they've lost two games, so they're

866
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 3: they're out unless they win the ACC.

867
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

868
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 3: It's gonna be messy, and they're gonna use it to

869
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: justify uh, given these TV networks what they want, which

870
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 3: brings me to our final topic today, George, when you

871
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 3: leave the house to go to the store, what are

872
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 3: the two most important things like when you when you

873
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: go out and you So, let's say two things that

874
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 3: are sold by two different stores. What are they? It

875
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 3: could be a type of grocery.

876
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: What what two things do I need to go to

877
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Speaker 1: the store for.

878
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 3: The most Yeah, but it has to be from two

879
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 3: different stores? Food? Okay, and.

880
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: I don't need pet food anymore. What's the others?

881
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 3: So let's say, Okay, so you you got a couple

882
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 3: of Mexican food spots that you really love out there, right, Yes,

883
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 3: Let's say your favorite Mexican food spot is right next

884
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: to your favorite grocery store.

885
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: Okay.

886
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 3: All you do in either place is spend money. Yes,

887
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 3: that's it. You have an allegiance to both because they

888
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 3: have something you need.

889
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: Okay, But if you pull up in.

890
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 3: The parking lot and you see the owner of the

891
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 3: Mexican food store fistfighting the owner of the grocery store,

892
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 3: and they both turn to you and they say you

893
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 3: need to pick a winner. What's your reaction to me?

894
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 3: What the hell does this have to do with me?

895
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 2: Exactly like bro if no, I'm not picking a winner? No, no, sorry.

896
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 3: So my question is, why does YouTube, TV and ESPN

897
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 3: just put out these statements asking us to figure something

898
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 3: out for them? What does it have to do with me?

899
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 3: Why are you talking to me? I'm watching two billionaires

900
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 3: fight and all I want to do is watch Washington

901
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 3: State play at eleven pm Eastern. What does this have

902
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 3: to do with me? What? What is the point of

903
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 3: the pr battle? I actually am earnestly asking George. Why

904
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 3: do they appeal to us.

905
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 2: Because they think that all we care about is watching

906
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: the game. That is what they know that come that

907
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: when it comes down to it, that is all that

908
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 2: matters is the ability to watch the game.

909
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 3: But if they're both telling me that it's the other

910
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 3: person's fault, I don't have anything to say to you.

911
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 3: You will meet me in my living room to tell you.

912
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: But Google or is either either put the game on

913
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: or I will find another way to watch it period.

914
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 2: So I think YouTube TV will probably be the loser here,

915
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: because if this is not fixed by Monday and people

916
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: can't watch Monday night football.

917
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: They will be over to Hulu TV or the ESPN

918
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: app all on college football. We can't watch college football

919
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: on there, man. Hell no, I know it's a.

920
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: If you type in any college football game on TikTok,

921
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 3: somebody will just set their phone up and stream that game.

922
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 3: TikTok doesn't care exactly. So I'm like, you want me

923
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 3: to pick a winner, how about you both lose? Yeah,

924
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 3: you'll chase me into the black market of consuming college football, yep.

925
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 3: Like if it's not That's what I'm saying. Like, if

926
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 3: it's not safe for me to come to your Mexican

927
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 3: food restaurant or a grocery store because you guys are

928
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 3: out here fighting in the parking lot, I'll just go

929
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 3: somewhere else. So I don't I don't understand why they're

930
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 3: appealing to us at all, Like we have anything to

931
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 3: do with this, and especially ESPN statement calling Google a

932
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: multi billion dollar corporation, what do you.

933
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: Think you are?

934
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 2: And It's like, see that multi billion dollar corporation is

935
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 2: trying to take you away from your games.

936
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: You need to stop them at once.

937
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 3: This is like Nancy Pelosi out here being like, we

938
00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 3: gotta do something about these millionaires exactly, Like, oh dude, okay,

939
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 3: I'm I'm sitting in my house. What do you want

940
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 3: me to do? I'm not gonna I'm not gonna solve this.

941
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 3: I just don't understand why espn PR is tweeting this

942
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 3: call to action amongst college football fans, Like, at the

943
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 3: end of the day, you're trying to get my prices

944
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 3: to go up, and you want me to take out

945
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 3: my sword and fight for you. Exact yet, Vin, I'm

946
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 3: gonna pirate. I stole from Patrick's sap. I will steal

947
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 3: from you.

948
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.

949
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 3: I'm done it. What are you looking forward to this weekend?

950
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: Oh man?

951
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: This weekend, I am looking forward to see Like there's

952
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: something weird in my gut.

953
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: I feel like that.

954
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 2: Penn State is going to keep this game close, and

955
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 2: I want to see too. I don't know why they're

956
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 2: favored by twenty and a half, and I just feel

957
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: like this could be a seven point point game. I

958
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: think they're going to play out of their mind. And

959
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: then the other thing is, I want to see Vanderbilt Texas.

960
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: Everybody wants text to be so damn good. Okay, let's

961
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 2: see what you're talking about. And they want Vandy to

962
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: be so damn good too. So one of these two

963
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: things is not true, and exposure will happen. Texas is

964
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: three and a half way favorite Miami.

965
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 3: Two.

966
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: Will Miami survive? Smmu.

967
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 3: I'm one hundred million percent with you on this Texas

968
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 3: versus Vanderbilt game. And here's the reason. Here's what this

969
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 3: means for people sitting at small colleges all over America

970
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 3: right now. This is a battle between a quarterback who

971
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 3: three years ago was at New Mexico Military Institute against

972
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 3: the quarterback two years ago who was at Gardner Webb

973
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 3: outside of Gastonia, North Carolina.

974
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: Yep.

975
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 3: And that's the too mean arch meeting doesn't play. But like,

976
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 3: if you're sitting at some tiny ass college somewhere right now,

977
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 3: your moment might be two years away. You might be

978
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 3: two years away from playing for an SEC championship.

979
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: Exactly, bro, exactly.

980
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 3: Oh, this is out here rocking with a dude who

981
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 3: is splitting time at fair Est State at this time

982
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 3: last year.

983
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 2: Mm, bro that that my friends matters, that my friends matters,

984
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 2: and and I actually love it, dude, because I'm actually

985
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: happy for these kids that they get opportunities because they

986
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: need them.

987
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: And you're watching or they had a glow up.

988
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 3: You're watching a kid ball out. You told me you're

989
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 3: watching a kid ball out at UC Davis right now.

990
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yeah, yeah.

991
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 2: Cayden up Pinnick. He's playing very very well and you

992
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: could see him at a power for school next year.

993
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 2: He's the short king, but short short kings can can work.

994
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 3: I saw a guy earlier this year at Northern Arizona

995
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 3: User University named ty Pennington, not the home improvement ty Pennington,

996
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,959
Speaker 3: college football ty Pennington, And all of a sudden, I'm like, wait,

997
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 3: I think this guy's game translates yep, like everything is

998
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 3: on the table for everyone. And I told you, like,

999
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 3: as a Wyoming guy, I thought the nil era was

1000
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 3: going to break us, and it has not, No, because

1001
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 3: you got guys out there every single day playing for

1002
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 3: you know, some people are playing for the opportunity to

1003
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 3: get drafted. Other people are playing for the opportunity to

1004
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 3: get on a bigger stage. It turned it into like

1005
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 3: you go to a like a regional broadcast of the

1006
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: play Hamilton where it's not the original cast. It's just

1007
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 3: like some people in you know, outside of Denver or

1008
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 3: something like that, and you're watching people give the greatest

1009
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 3: performances of their life because all of a sudden, the

1010
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 3: way to Broadway is through Denver or anywhere in America.

1011
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 3: You're about to see everybody's performance level jump. And that's

1012
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 3: what's happening right now in the nil era is anybody

1013
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 3: who leaves high school and didn't get found by the

1014
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 3: right people still has an opportunity. You could still get found.

1015
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 3: And it's like, again, Ole miss could go to the

1016
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 3: national championship. I believe they could with a dude from

1017
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 3: fair State. Vanderbilt could go with a guy from New

1018
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 3: Mexico Military Institute who knows what Texas is about.

1019
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: Talking to show win the Heisman.

1020
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: After that performance last week, you're like, hey, brother, let's

1021
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: work on this as a legacy award and not a

1022
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: statistical award.

1023
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 3: But I'm just man, it's just the college football is

1024
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 3: so crazy right now. It's more interesting than it's ever been.

1025
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 3: It's more fun than it's ever been, and I can't

1026
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 3: wait to complain about who gets left out of the

1027
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 3: college football Playoff.

1028
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 2: You're right, brother, and we get the first rankings this

1029
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: next Tuesday. So I'm Jeice. You guys, I'm George Reister,

1030
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: He's Ralph Anderson. This is the College Football Apostles, and

1031
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 2: I'm Garrett Garrison. Have a great Halloween.

1032
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 3: Sorry, Patrick,