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Speaker 1: What's up. I'm Granger, me man, I'm Tyler, I'm Parker.

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Speaker 1: This is the ninety nine four one podcast, where we

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Speaker 1: seek the one and equip the ninety nine to do

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Speaker 1: the same. Comes from a parable in Luke fifteen. I

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Speaker 1: got to share that story in Minneapolis. I was wearing

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Speaker 1: a ninet nine four one hat and the guy said, so,

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Speaker 1: what's ninety nine for one? I love it when people

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Speaker 1: ask me that because it's like boom. I get to

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Speaker 1: tell him the gospel and it's and sometimes I'll admit

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Speaker 1: sometime's a little awkward. You got to get into it

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Speaker 1: right off the bat. You're like, oh, I guess we're

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Speaker 1: going to the gospel right now.

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Speaker 2: You ever forget that you're wearing the hat and somebody.

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Speaker 1: Else all the time? So what is nine nine for one?

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Speaker 1: And I go, well, it comes from Jesus? And he said,

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Speaker 1: how many of you that had a hundred cheap if

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Speaker 1: you lost one, you would leave the ninety nine for

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Speaker 1: the one? And I said, and that takes us to

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Speaker 1: the gospel. And then sometimes their eyes kind of glaze over,

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Speaker 1: and then sometimes they like this particular guy in Minneapolis

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Speaker 1: said oh yeah. And another guy who nudged him and

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Speaker 1: said you should have known that, and he goes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I should have known that. Yeah, thanks for shit in that, man.

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Speaker 1: Should we have a good topic today? An interesting way

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Speaker 1: of how we got here?

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Speaker 2: What is it it?

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Speaker 1: What's our topic?

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Speaker 2: Topic is yep, exactly?

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Speaker 1: I did that on purpose.

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Speaker 2: How do we know the Bible is reliable?

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Speaker 1: We please get a clip that we could put on

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Speaker 1: social media.

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Speaker 2: That's so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: This is not often I get you to do that.

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Speaker 1: That is not often. I'm so glad you are human,

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Speaker 1: you are human. I didn't they. I thought you're like

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Speaker 1: just robot, really good radio, really good.

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Speaker 2: We are Ieart Podcast guaranteed human.

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Speaker 1: So that's true, we are guaranteed human. But that was beautiful. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So the topic today it's it's basically can we trust

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Speaker 1: the Bible? And it's an interesting way of how we

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Speaker 1: got here to this topic today. Because I was supposed

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Speaker 1: to preach Second Peter one sixteen to twenty one in callaspell, Montana,

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Speaker 1: this past Sunday four a friend of this podcast, Chad Warren,

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Speaker 1: and that did not happen. And so because it did

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Speaker 1: not happen, I figured, let's just chat about it on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I won't preach. I won't preach it, but

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Speaker 1: I wish we could talk about some of the main notes. Say,

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Speaker 1: it's Second Peter, Second Peter, Chapter one, sixteen to twenty one,

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Speaker 1: and this is this is Peter in his last days.

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Speaker 1: It's the last last known letter from Peter that we have,

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Speaker 1: and it's sometimes known as the his farewell epistle because

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Speaker 1: we know that through historians have recorded that he was

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Speaker 1: killed within about two years of writing this letter. And

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Speaker 1: so it's interesting about about sixty five a d. Was

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Speaker 1: seasoned apostle who was the eyewitness of these things. And

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Speaker 1: he's he's going to give us a way that we

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Speaker 1: could trust the Bible. Three ways. Actually, I'm gonna talk

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that. Should I talk about why

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Speaker 1: I didn't even get to preest this though? First?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why didn't you? Well?

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Speaker 1: I was preaching another passage on Psalm three And on

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Speaker 1: was gonna take him. We're gonna go to Michigan. It's

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Speaker 1: they have discounted lift tickets and the ski resort Whitefish

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Speaker 1: is just fifteen minutes from their house. Go ski for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which sounds insane to the average person, like you're

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Speaker 3: you do not know what tomorrow will bring. What is

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Speaker 3: if the Lord wills, we will live and do this

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Speaker 3: or that. As it is currently, you boast and your arrogance.

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Speaker 3: All such boasting is evil. So whoever knows the right

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Speaker 3: I don't know the full context of what was going

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Speaker 1: James and you know, like Mark Dever will say he's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm too. Uh, we're we could say this morning,

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Speaker 1: for nine nine for one.

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Speaker 3: The other thing that some of the guys would say

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Speaker 1: the James four doesn't say say Lord Willing and everything

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Speaker 1: you're communicating to someone else, for one, but you're also

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Speaker 3: I don't think you have to say Lord Willing anytime

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Speaker 3: you're talking about the future necessarily, but I think that

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Speaker 1: So what what what Parker means is you don't say

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Speaker 1: I wish, I'm I plan. My intention is it's into

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Speaker 1: the arrogance that James is talking about. Is it arrogance

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Speaker 3: Not saying that's my plan. You're saying I will be

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Speaker 1: You's my plan. The the Lord will establish my steps. Right,

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Speaker 1: I make my plan, the Bible says, but the Lord

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Speaker 1: just arguing, James. I just think I think this is No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not arguing James. I think this is like podcast

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Speaker 1: He goes no, I go and I'm not going to now.

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Speaker 1: He goes, no, what are we going to do? I go, okay,

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Speaker 1: let's come up with a plan. And they were, they

432
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Speaker 1: were passing out hotels. I said, they say, they're going

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Speaker 1: to book us tomorrow at five pm. So let's get

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Speaker 1: let's get a hotel and what we can do tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I'm all of America. He goes, yeah, we'll go ride

436
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Speaker 1: some rides like you got it? And he goes, this

437
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Speaker 1: is good, daddy, I don't really mind. I don't mind

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Speaker 1: that we're not going to Montana. We get to write

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Speaker 1: some rides. Like all of a sudden, these days like lived,

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Speaker 1: go to the hotel, get some sleep, get up, go

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Speaker 1: to the mall of America, have a great time riding

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Speaker 1: some rides. All the churches this Sunday, by the way,

443
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Speaker 1: I had already texted Chad gone through the whole deal,

444
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Speaker 1: so sorry about this. All the churches are canceled in Minneapolis,

445
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Speaker 1: so we couldn't even go to a service, but we

446
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Speaker 1: could go to the mall. That says a lot about America, right,

447
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Speaker 1: So we get ready for this Missoula flight that they've

448
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Speaker 1: rebooked the next day at five pm. But then I

449
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: started getting messages delayed, delayed, delayed, delayed. I said, Lincoln,

450
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Speaker 1: get ready, if this delays, we could rent a car

451
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Speaker 1: and just start driving home. He's like, because, oh, by

452
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Speaker 1: the way, there's no flights to Texas at all till Wednesday, which,

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Speaker 1: as we're recording this podcast right now, the flights aren't

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Speaker 1: even until tomorrow for me to even come home to

455
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Speaker 1: Texas from Minneapolis. The blizzard's so bad, so boom. Right

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Speaker 1: after thirty minutes after I said that, I get a

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Speaker 1: message flights canceled. I said, let's go go to the

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Speaker 1: airport and we rent a car or a jeep before

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Speaker 1: we'll drive jeep. Let me start driving, and it's just

460
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Speaker 1: an adventure, like he's just loving every minute of it.

461
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Speaker 1: We drive and took for about an hour until we

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Speaker 1: realize this is an undrivable blizzard. We can't be here.

463
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Speaker 1: It's it's a danger. If the sun goes down, this

464
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Speaker 1: could be very dangerous. We don't have coats because the

465
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Speaker 1: airline has our bags. So I said, all right, next

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Speaker 1: hotel find I give him my phone. Find the next hotel.

467
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Speaker 1: He finds a hotel in a little bit of town.

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Speaker 1: Interstate closes down. We're on a back road. This is

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Speaker 1: a long story I'm trying to make. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: make fast. Find a hotel in a just a nowhere

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Speaker 1: town just north of clear Lake, Iowa, which we've spent

472
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Speaker 1: so much time touring in Iowa. I had a feeling

473
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Speaker 1: if something bad happens to us, I can get on

474
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Speaker 1: Facebook and ye, Nation Iowa would be there in thirty seconds.

475
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Speaker 1: Like I love our Iowa country boys and country girls

476
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Speaker 1: like that they have our back. So we get this

477
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Speaker 1: hotel and here we are now with a new dilemma

478
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Speaker 1: of all the interstates are closed all the way to Ames, Iowa,

479
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Speaker 1: which is you know, a couple hours. It's all closed,

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Speaker 1: the whole interstate and there's just an unheard of type

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Speaker 1: blizzard in northern Iowa. Next morning, we get up, We

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Speaker 1: waited it out. We took a trip to the Dollar

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Speaker 1: Tree just to see how the roads were. But all

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Speaker 1: this to say, we don't plan. We don't make our plans.

485
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Speaker 1: The Lord does. We make our plans, I mean, but

486
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Speaker 1: the Lord establishes our steps. Yeah. So we finally decided

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Speaker 1: to drive. And we were just going twenty miles an hour,

488
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Speaker 1: I mean, wind's blowing, racing across the road, and I

489
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Speaker 1: kept refreshing the Apple maps. And then finally I said,

490
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Speaker 1: I noticed interstates opened. They had cleared it with enough

491
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Speaker 1: salt and trucks. So we made our way to there.

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Speaker 1: As soon as we got on that interstate started going,

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Speaker 1: I handed my phone to Lincoln. I said, here's your task.

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Speaker 1: Go to the map, find the closest cities, and when

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Speaker 1: you find a close city to us, go to American

496
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Speaker 1: Delta Southwest United and find the flights to Austin, Texas.

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Speaker 1: If you can get one before midnight ish eleven thirty midnight,

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Speaker 1: that's under five hundred dollars, let me know. And when

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Speaker 1: you do that, go to the weather app look for

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Speaker 1: that city on the weather rapp and if the temperature

501
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Speaker 1: is above thirty then you could trust that city more.

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Speaker 1: He goes and boom, he just find he just like

503
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Speaker 1: his brain focused in. It was so good for him.

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Speaker 1: That's all puts it puts it on task. He finds

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Speaker 1: Kansas City. There's one flight out of Kansas City. That's

506
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Speaker 1: a three hundred and fifty dollars flight, not bad, and

507
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Speaker 1: it's going to get us in Austin. We get to

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Speaker 1: Kansas City no problem. Then that flight starts delaying.

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Speaker 2: All to say, we got in.

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Speaker 1: We landed at one one oh seven last night in

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Speaker 1: the morning, one o seven am, and drove home, made

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Speaker 1: it here. I was in bed just a little after two,

513
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Speaker 1: and all of that was completely outside of my plan.

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Speaker 1: That might be the longest story I've ever listened to

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Speaker 1: in my life. But I'm glad you're home safely.

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Speaker 2: What point did you start tuning out?

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Speaker 1: I listened to the whole thing. I actually listened to

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Speaker 1: the whole thing and knows me well, and I didn't

519
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Speaker 1: tune out. It was crazy. I'm I'm surprised, Lincoln was.

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Speaker 1: I can't even do all that stuff well, and I

521
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Speaker 1: think only twelve, right, twelve years old. I pull out

522
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: and look at we've on not this podcast, on the

523
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Speaker 1: Granger Smith podcast. We have the story of you and

524
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: London coming back from a mission trip. Yep, and now

525
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Speaker 1: you've now you've got one with Lincoln. We are not

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Speaker 1: new to travel problems something.

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Speaker 3: The thing that is comforting in those as a Christian

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Speaker 3: is you know that it's not accidental. God's hands aren't

529
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Speaker 3: tied somewhere. You know that you're like you know the

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Speaker 3: Lord is sovereign over every little thing, and so it

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Speaker 3: brings you comfort when someone else can have maybe a panic,

532
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Speaker 3: which is understandable. I've wanted to have that too on

533
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Speaker 3: an airplane, but can bring you comfort. Maybe one day

534
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Speaker 3: we'll get our bags back to I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Oh you still don't have your bags.

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Speaker 1: No, okay, So second Peter one, you let me read this. Guys, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So the old Peter writes this, and once again we're

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Speaker 1: thinking about can we trust our bibles. Peter says, we

539
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Speaker 1: did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known

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Speaker 1: to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: But we were eye witnesses of his majesty. For when

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Speaker 1: he received honor and glory from God the Father, and

543
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Speaker 1: the voice was born to him by the majestic glory.

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Speaker 1: This is my beloved son, with whom I'm well pleased.

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Speaker 1: We ourselves heard this very voice born from heaven, for

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Speaker 1: we were with him on the Holy mountain, and we

547
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Speaker 1: have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, to which you

548
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Speaker 1: will do well to pay attention as a lamp shining

549
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Speaker 1: in a dark place until the day dawns and the

550
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: morning star rises in your hearts, knowing this first of all,

551
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Speaker 1: that no prophecy of scripture comes from someone's own interpretation.

552
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Speaker 1: For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man,

553
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Speaker 1: but men spoke from God as they were carried along

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Speaker 1: by the Holy Spirit. So the old Peter showing us here,

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Speaker 1: as we as we think about the validity of the Bible,

556
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Speaker 1: can we trust it? We live in a world when

557
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Speaker 1: we can't really trust anything.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: We see something on TikTok and we say, was that

560
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Speaker 1: video even real? We see the president say something, Was

561
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Speaker 1: that really him? Or is that manipulated? The Bible says

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Speaker 1: of itself that it's true. Well, is that a circular

563
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Speaker 1: argument that the Bible? We trust the Bible because the

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Speaker 1: Bible says it's true. Is that not circular reasoning? And

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Speaker 1: so Peter in this passage gives us gives us three

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Speaker 1: things to think about when we could think about the

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Speaker 1: Bible's reliable He says sixteen to eighteen, the Bible is

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Speaker 1: illumine verse nineteen and the Bible's authoritative verse twenty to

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Speaker 1: twenty one. And I think that that's the order of

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Speaker 1: importance reliability, illumination, authoritative, and I'll fly through this. But

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Speaker 1: he starts. He starts with eyewitness.

572
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Speaker 2: He was there.

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Speaker 1: He says, look, you should pay attention to these things.

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Speaker 1: I was there and not just me talking about the

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Speaker 1: transfiguration when he heard the voice from God. This is

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Speaker 1: my son with whom I am well pleased. That also

577
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Speaker 1: happened that Jesus's baptism. But he was Peter was there

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Speaker 1: with James and John on this mountain when this happened

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Speaker 1: to Jesus. And so he starts with saying, we were

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Speaker 1: there on that holy mountain, we ourselves heard this very voice.

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Speaker 1: The Bible begins with eyewitness testimony as the first credibility

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Speaker 1: for reliability. Let me say this. Skeptics will say, I

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Speaker 1: don't believe the Bible because I believe in science. But

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Speaker 1: that's a category error because you don't judge historical documents

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Speaker 1: by the scientific method, because the scientific method has to

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Speaker 1: be repeatable natural phenomenon. Right, that's a scientific method. But

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Speaker 1: when you're thinking about historical, historical documents. It's based on

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Speaker 1: corroborating evidence, eyewitness testimony like you would use in a courtroom. Sure,

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Speaker 1: let's bring in let's bring in an eyewitness, let's bring

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Speaker 1: in evidence. Okay, So that's not the scientific method. So

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Speaker 1: that's a category error to say that. But when we

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Speaker 1: begin with these eyewitness testimonies, Luke says the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Whenever he writes his Gospel. He says he basically says,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you an account as from those

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Speaker 1: who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the Word,

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Speaker 1: and then he says that you may have certainty in

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Speaker 1: these things that you've been taught. John begins his gospel

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Speaker 1: by saying that which was from the beginning, which we

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Speaker 1: have heard and seen with our own eyes, which we

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Speaker 1: have looked upon and touched with our own hands, concerning

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Speaker 1: the Word of life, as we have seen it, that

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Speaker 1: which we have seen and heard and proclaimed to you,

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Speaker 1: so that you may have fellowship with us. That's how

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Speaker 1: John begins it. So so much of this stuff Acts four.

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Speaker 1: They were the Jewish leaders told Peter and John to

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Speaker 1: stop preaching, and they said, how could we stop preaching

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Speaker 1: what we have seen and heard? So eyewitness, eyewitness eyewitness,

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Speaker 1: which is important because the Bible is a collection, a

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Speaker 1: collection of historical documents written over the course of sixteen

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Speaker 1: hundred years by around forty different authors, written in the

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Speaker 1: time of eyewitnesses, by eyewitnesses. That makes sense, yes, so

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Speaker 1: it was written in three languages, over three different continents,

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Speaker 1: separated in such a way that these people could have

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Speaker 1: never known each other to get their story straight.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, hey, let's set out and talk about this.

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Speaker 1: No one was able to have a meeting over fifteen

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Speaker 1: hundred years, forty different authors, three different languages, three different continents,

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Speaker 1: and yet all of the stories line up perfectly, and

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Speaker 1: they were written by eyewitnesses, most of them. Luke is

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Speaker 1: an exception. People like that in the time of other eyewitnesses.

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Speaker 1: You guys, remember First Corinthians fifteen, when Paul says, I

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Speaker 1: delivered to you of first importance. When I also received

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Speaker 1: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures,

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Speaker 1: that he was buried, that he was raised on the

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Speaker 1: third day in accordance with the scriptures, and that he

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Speaker 1: appeared Decephus, then to the twelve. Then he appeared to

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Speaker 1: more than five hundred brothers at one time, most of

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Speaker 1: whom are still alive. The Bible. These events happened in public,

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Speaker 1: two other people around many people. Imagine the feeding of

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Speaker 1: the five thousand, Yeah, five thousand. This was not a

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Speaker 1: guy in a cave getting a revelation, yeah, just then

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Speaker 1: getting a revelation from an angel in a cave in

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Speaker 1: a secret spot that maybe was brought up many years later.

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Speaker 1: These are many people that saw these things and specific

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Speaker 1: places and specific times by two specific people. All names, times,

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Speaker 1: places mentioned in the Bible. Then we think about this,

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Speaker 1: although it was written by forty different authors fifteen hundred years,

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Speaker 1: three different languages, three different continents, we still have a

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Speaker 1: mountain of evidence on the manuscripts themselves. Let me explain

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Speaker 1: they Have you guys ever heard people say I don't

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Speaker 1: trust the Bible because it's like a game of telephone.

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Speaker 1: There's so many translations.

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Speaker 2: That's probably the most common excuse.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean somebody, somebody had the original at one point,

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Speaker 3: and then they somebody else made a copy, and somebody

646
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Speaker 3: else made a copy of that copy and then translated

647
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Speaker 3: to this language, and then that times six hundred is

648
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Speaker 3: going to end up with a completely different text like

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Speaker 3: that's exactly what Muslims would say, that all of the

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Speaker 3: New Testament is basically corrupt and like none of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they affirmed Jesus as a prophet, but all this other

652
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Speaker 3: stuff about him it is just has just been corrupted

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Speaker 3: and changed.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. That would be called the game of telephone,

655
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Speaker 1: where it just every time it gets translated, a little

656
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Speaker 1: thing changes. Some king or somebody that goes into power

657
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: once a little thing changed for him, so he changes it.

658
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Speaker 1: But that's just not the reality, and in fact, that

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Speaker 1: argument is absolutely impossible for this reason. First of all,

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Speaker 1: good translations we have today are derived from the Greek,

661
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Speaker 1: not from the latter the latest translation of English, but

662
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Speaker 1: all the way back to the Greek manuscripts that we have.

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Speaker 1: Of those manuscripts, we don't have the originals. That should

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Speaker 1: be obvious. But what we do have, the earliest ones

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Speaker 1: date back to early second century, meaning during the times

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Speaker 1: when there would be apostles alive. Then, so the earliest

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Speaker 1: manuscripts go back to the time these apostles were actually alive.

668
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Speaker 1: And we have of those Greek manuscripts, we have nearly

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Speaker 1: six thousand of them. Okay, this will make sense in

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Speaker 1: a second. So imagine six thousand manuscripts ancient, some of

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Speaker 1: them dating back all the way to the early second century,

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Speaker 1: during the time when some of the apostles may have

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Speaker 1: been still alive or at least their disciples, the disciples

674
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Speaker 1: of those postles would have been. But when you include

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Speaker 1: other ancient languages that it was translated into, we're talking

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Speaker 1: over twenty thousand, twenty thousand copies. I have a replica

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Speaker 1: of p. Fifty two in here there comes from John

678
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Speaker 1: eighteen and that's from early second century, when John would

679
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Speaker 1: have still been alive. Possibly. Wow. So but this is

680
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Speaker 1: crazy if you think that's a lot. Do you think

681
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Speaker 1: that's a lot? Twenty thousand and six thousands? It sounds

682
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Speaker 1: like a whole lot, and it is. But compared to

683
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Speaker 1: other ancient works. You guys ever heard of Julius Caesar's

684
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Speaker 1: Gallic Wars. It's a very famous. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at a table right now with ancient works, okay,

686
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Speaker 3: when they were written, and then the earliest copy in

687
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Speaker 3: the number of copies Julius Caesar.

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Speaker 1: You could tell me if my notes are right, ten

689
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Speaker 1: manuscripts ten and the earliest copies nine hundred years after

690
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Speaker 1: Caesar wrote it. So once again, Gospels. We're talking. We're

691
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Speaker 1: talking about our the New Testament specifically, we're talking within

692
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Speaker 1: a few decades of the originals. And there's twenty thousand

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Speaker 1: Julius Caesar ten, nine hundred years after Aristotle. We all

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Speaker 1: know Aristotle, very famous. Everybody in this room. No Aristotle, right, Yeah,

695
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Speaker 1: fifty manuscripts copied a thousand years after. That's the The

696
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Speaker 1: earliest one is one thousand years after fifty. Okay, Homer's Iliad.

697
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Speaker 1: Every high school kid has to read Homer's Iliad. That

698
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Speaker 1: when you, guys, did you read that? You skipped it

699
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Speaker 1: in Ogoma. Do you think any teacher tells the kids

700
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Speaker 1: this may or not be, this may or may not

701
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Speaker 1: be exactly what right? No one say what was written? Okay,

702
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: it's one of the best preserved works in all of antiquity.

703
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: Eighteen hundred manuscripts, earliest copies four to five hundred years

704
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Speaker 1: after the original. No one questions, No one says, Homer's Iliad,

705
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Speaker 1: this may may have been changed a whole.

706
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Speaker 2: Bunch of times out of all of them.

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Speaker 1: That's the closest to that's the closest to the Gospels.

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Speaker 1: But the New Testament is a completely different category as

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Speaker 1: far as historical evidence. And on top of all that

710
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: circulated while other eyewitnesses of those events would have been alive,

711
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Speaker 1: meaning someone could say, hang on, hang on a second,

712
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Speaker 1: I was there on that hill when he fed the

713
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Speaker 1: fish and the loaves. I was there, and that that

714
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Speaker 1: didn't happen that way it could have. They could have

715
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Speaker 1: easily have been there. The other thing is with when

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Speaker 1: when you have twenty thousand fragments of manuscripts everywhere over

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Speaker 1: three different continents and these different languages, if someone came

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Speaker 1: into power that wanted to change something about the Bible, yeah,

719
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Speaker 1: they would have to find twenty manuscripts. You change them all,

720
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Speaker 1: change them all, even in the languages they don't understand,

721
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Speaker 1: and even in the continents that they couldn't reach. They

722
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Speaker 1: would have to collectively say we want this for the

723
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Speaker 1: King's power. You know, like people say about the Bible's

724
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Speaker 1: false because it's just manipulated by so that we haven't

725
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Speaker 1: even gotten in the Holy Spirit here, we haven't gotten

726
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Speaker 1: into inspiration here. We're just talking about just the just

727
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Speaker 1: the print that we have today. Can we trust it?

728
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Speaker 1: We're not even going to get into the multiple false

729
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Speaker 1: gospels like the Gospel of Mary, the Gospel of Peter,

730
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Speaker 1: Gospel of Thomas. We don't even have to get there yet.

731
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Speaker 1: We're just talking about what we have today. How close

732
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Speaker 1: is this to the original? Well just buy it on

733
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Speaker 1: the vast amount of manuscripts and the low amount of

734
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Speaker 1: copy error, the closer to the original, the close time

735
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Speaker 1: to the originals, and the vast amount of them. When

736
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Speaker 1: you add it all up. Textual, the textual critic taking this,

737
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Speaker 1: taking this, take is this right? It's impossible to say

738
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Speaker 1: this is false. This has been changed.

739
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One of the cool things I remember and Why Trust

741
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: the Bible by Greg Gilbert to cool little book, He

742
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Speaker 3: talks about how actually there are thousands of little differences

743
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Speaker 3: in all of these copies, but that actually makes the

744
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 3: Bible more historically reliable because if they all carbon copy

745
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Speaker 3: exact same grammar and exact same words in different places,

746
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Speaker 3: and that would that would push the idea that these

747
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Speaker 3: are all like carbon copies that were manufactured to give

748
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Speaker 3: the appearance of truth. But in reality, with all the

749
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Speaker 3: copies having these subtle differences and all being from all over,

750
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Speaker 3: some will say Jesus's Lord, some would say Christ Jesus

751
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Speaker 3: is Lord. Another one would say, Jesus Christ is the Lord,

752
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Speaker 3: you know, and so he talks about it in the

753
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Speaker 3: book about how like they all have. There's nothing that's

754
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Speaker 3: different about these different copies that changes the primary purpose

755
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Speaker 3: of the text.

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Speaker 2: Right, makes sense?

757
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Speaker 3: Right, So it's super cool, and so historians are able

758
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Speaker 3: to actually look at those minor differences as actually like

759
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 3: making it more historically reliable. Tyler, are we missing anything here?

760
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Speaker 3: Are you lost? Is there anything? Is there any good

761
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 3: questions you could ask to the people who may be

762
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 3: confused right now?

763
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Speaker 2: Are you are?

764
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Speaker 3: You're usually the voice of reason?

765
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, the next two points will be quicker, I promise.

766
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Speaker 1: But just as far as the Bible is reliable, eyewitness testimony,

767
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Speaker 1: amount of manuscripts, time closest to the originals in the

768
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Speaker 1: in the other in the time of other eyewitnesses, the

769
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Speaker 1: vast where we find these all over you know, this

770
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Speaker 1: this area, it's impossible to change them. So I'm not

771
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Speaker 1: saying at this point, we're not saying if you're if

772
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Speaker 1: you're a skeptic and you're listening to the podcast right now,

773
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Speaker 1: you don't believe in you're not a Chris, you're an atheist.

774
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Speaker 1: Whatever you are, at this point. I'm not even telling

775
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Speaker 1: you to believe. I'm just saying the Bible as we

776
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Speaker 1: have it today would hold up in any courtroom. If

777
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Speaker 1: you're making the argument, do you think this is what

778
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Speaker 1: the original author actually wrote? I believe in any jury

779
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Speaker 1: in a modern day court would say we don't. We

780
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Speaker 1: don't believe that the authors were correct, but we do

781
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Speaker 1: believe that what they wrote down is what we have today.

782
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Speaker 1: Does that make sense what I just said? Yeah, okay,

783
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Speaker 1: So even if you're an atheist, you could say, at

784
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Speaker 1: least I don't believe in Jesus. I don't even believe

785
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Speaker 1: there is a God, but I do believe that those

786
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Speaker 1: crazy people that were writing this stuff down, what they

787
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Speaker 1: wrote is is what we have today. So why don't

788
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Speaker 1: we read the Bible in school instead of Homer.

789
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Speaker 2: M that was four podcasts ago. We don't want to?

790
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Speaker 2: I'm just joking.

791
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's that's a good point.

792
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Speaker 3: But because it's a religious text, I guess, yeah, it's

793
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Speaker 3: a religious text.

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Speaker 2: What does kind of tie back into that? Would we

795
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Speaker 2: want our teachers today teaching the Bible?

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Speaker 1: So the next point Peter's making here is the Bible

797
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Speaker 1: is illuminating. He talks about it being a light to

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Speaker 1: your path. The Bible talks of itself as a as

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Speaker 1: a light to the path. Peter says, a light, a

800
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Speaker 1: lamp shining in a dark place where this prophetic word

801
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Speaker 1: was confirmed. And what we have in the Bible is

802
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Speaker 1: something that no other book, especially religious book, has fulfilled

803
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Speaker 1: prophecy over and over, over and over again. I heard

804
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Speaker 1: Chad Warren say, because he preached my sermon, I gave

805
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Speaker 1: him my notes and he preached it, and then I

806
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Speaker 1: listened to him preaching, and I thought it was better

807
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Speaker 1: than I would have done. So good, and he added

808
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Speaker 1: a part that we're not in my notes, but he

809
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Speaker 1: added apart talking just statistically, there's been a study maybe

810
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Speaker 1: when you guys know this, but there's been a study

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Speaker 1: of what would be the odds of eight prophecies coming true.

812
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Speaker 1: And it was like so high a number that you've

813
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Speaker 1: never even heard of the number. It was like it

814
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 1: was like the tillion or crazy.

815
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Speaker 2: But that's where you learn how to eat correctly.

816
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Speaker 1: That that's just that's just only eight. Yeah, And we

817
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Speaker 1: have countless prophecies in the Old Testament fulfilled perfectly. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I'm preaching one of them. This coming Sunday in amais

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Speaker 1: Isaiah fifty three. Isaiah fifty three Isaiah is seven hundred

820
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Speaker 1: years before Christ, prophesying almost an exact description of the

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Speaker 1: crucifixion right of Christ. So what do you call them prophecies? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So how many prophecies are there in the Bible and

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Speaker 1: how many have been fulfilled? They'll know that answer. Jam

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Speaker 1: might know that.

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Speaker 3: JBT.

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Speaker 1: Would I asked how many, I don't know how many

827
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Speaker 1: are left? I'm sure that that. I'm sure that that's

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Speaker 1: a you near left to be. You would end up saying,

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Speaker 1: is this technically this is fulfilled? Or that this is

830
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Speaker 1: not some dispute if this is fulfilled or not. So

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Speaker 1: you're going to end up with like a little bit

832
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Speaker 1: of an odd number, but it's a lot.

833
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Speaker 3: Roughly three hundred to three hundred and fifty Old Testament

834
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Speaker 3: prophecies about the Messiah specifically are considered fulfilled in Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 3: A commonly cited number is around three hundred thirty two examples,

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Speaker 3: Who's born in Bethlehem Micah five to two fulfilled in

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Speaker 3: Matthew et cetera, born of a virgin betrayed for thirty

838
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Speaker 3: pieces of silver pierced hands and feet, crucified with Chris,

839
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Speaker 3: criminals buried with the rich. Many of these were seven

840
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Speaker 3: hundred to one thousand years before Jesus. Total of around

841
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Speaker 3: eighteen hundred total prophecies appearance scripture, thirteen hundred plus have

842
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 3: been fulfilled thirteen hundred.

843
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Speaker 1: So what are the ones that haven't been fulfilled?

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Speaker 3: Ummm?

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Speaker 1: And when does chut gpt say.

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Speaker 3: That Christ second, Christ's second Coming, final Judgment, resurrection of

847
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: the dead, new heavens and the new Earth, ultimate restoration

848
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Speaker 3: of Israel and the nations found in Daniel and Zachariah

849
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Speaker 3: Matthew twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, technically, Tyler, you would no one would know that

851
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: because in the Old Testament, when it's when a New

852
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: Testament passage is fulfilled, the writers will say something like

853
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: this was to fulfill the prophecy of you know, just

854
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Speaker 1: to fulfill the scripture, and sometimes you wouldn't even have

855
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: known that was a prophecy. So the ones that haven't

856
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: been fulfilled yet, you technically don't even know all of them.

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Speaker 1: That would be like and even the ones that were

858
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Speaker 1: fulfilled in the Old Testament from the Old Testament, like

859
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: that that Abraham would one day he would be he

860
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: would have descendants that would be brought into the land,

861
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: that would be taken into exile and then brought back

862
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: from the Egypt. You like, the the craziness of just

863
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: the Old Testament fulfilling itself is wild. This is something.

864
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: This is why the Bible is illuminating. It has no

865
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: other book does this. It's fascinating. People have been people

866
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: have been converted just from hearing about scripture being fulfilled

867
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: and and looking at it from an analytical lens and

868
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 1: trying to tackle that problem and then realizing this can't

869
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: be tackled. There's no other way around it.

870
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 3: Besides, that's why so many atheists convert to Christianity, because

871
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 3: the more digging that you do, really the more that

872
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 3: you see. If you are seeking truth, Yep, you're gonna

873
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: find it and you're going to find out that it's true. Like,

874
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 3: I love what Wes Huff says about how like Christianity

875
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: has this amazing historical and from a historical sense reliability

876
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 3: and a philosophical sense as well as like there's truth

877
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 3: in like the philosophical sense, and like in terms of

878
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: its wisdom pointing to its true in terms of the

879
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: human condition. And then there's a sense of like the

880
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: historical documents that we found and the prophecies that came

881
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: true that prove it, not to mention like the faith

882
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 3: aspect of it too.

883
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so last point here, the Bible is illuminating. Excuse me,

884
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: the Bible. The Bible is authoritative, and I think that

885
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: this is the most important of the three points. The

886
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: Bible is authoritative. And the reason that this would be

887
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: the most important of the of the three is that

888
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: no matter no matter what it prophesies, or no matter

889
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: who is an eyewitness to it, the most important thing

890
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: about it would be who wrote it. And Paul says that,

891
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: as we've talked about it on this podcast before, was

892
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: tewod timent thy three sixteen, that all scripture is breathed

893
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: out by God. Some translations God breathed. Literally, that's a

894
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: new word that that was created. Paul created a word

895
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: that didn't exist. God breathed, and those are not two

896
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: different words. Yeah, God, however you want to translate it

897
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: from his Greek, God breathed, and that that means that

898
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: that every word is inspired by God by the Holy Spirit.

899
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: What we get in scripture is exactly what God wanted

900
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: to say. But but often we've misunderstood what that inspiration means.

901
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: The the old word, like the technical theological word, is

902
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: pleinary verbal inspiration. And that's important because when you think

903
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: about inspiration, you think, well, what is it forty different authors?

904
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: Is that just God's just dictating a voice where they're like,

905
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: thus says the Lord, I will do this, write it

906
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: down word for word. Sometimes the Bible has that. We

907
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: know that there are some prophets in the Old Testament.

908
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: That's how God's speaks, Thus says the Lord. When you

909
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: see thus says the Lord, You're about to hear what

910
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: God said exactly. But every other word in scripture is

911
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: equally inspired through the personality of the one that's inspired

912
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: writing it. Meaning David doesn't write like Isaiah, right, and

913
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: Paul doesn't write like Matthew. They're very different, but all

914
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: of them equally inspired every word of it. The Bible

915
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: is the word of God. The Bible is not The

916
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: Bible doesn't just sound like the word of God. The

917
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 1: Bible isn't the inspired ideas of God or the general

918
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: rules or the general consensus of God. It is the

919
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 1: word of God. And so that means that the authors

920
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: weren't like typewriters. They were, as Peter says, you guys

921
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: noticed that in this last verse, in the verse twenty one,

922
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: carried along by the Holy Spirit. The authors of Scripture

923
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: men spoke from God as they were carried along that

924
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: it's a nautical term that's talking about ships, where the

925
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: wind in the sails carried the ship. So that's what

926
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: it means to be carried along by the Holy Spirit.

927
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: Is the authors of the Bible were carried along, but

928
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: they maintained in His sovereignty. They maintained their personalities. Do

929
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: you see the nuances of each person that's writing has

930
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 1: their own quirks, and their own analogies or illustrations, and

931
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: their own cultural influences. As they were seeing through their

932
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 1: personal world that they lived in, inspired by the Holy Spirit,

933
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: and God said exactly wanted what he wanted to say

934
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: word for word through that specific author in his worldview, right,

935
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: which is crazy. Genesis does not sound like Jeremiah, does

936
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: not sound like Psalm twenty three, does not sound like

937
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: Matthew eighteen, does not sound like Revelation twenty two. But

938
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: every word is inspired by God through the personality of

939
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: the writer, pleinary verbal inspiration that makes sense. Have you

940
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: guys ever wondered that, like, what, why? How is this

941
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: word of God? If I've heard MacArthur said one time,

942
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: who wrote Romans? I would ask you, mane man, I've

943
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: already put pressure on you once today? Who wrote the

944
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: Book of Romans?

945
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: Is it not Paul?

946
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: Was it Paul? Just Paul? If you're ever going to guess,

947
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: just say Paul, because he wrote a lot of Who

948
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: wrote the Book of Romans? Tyler, Well, it's a trick question.

949
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: Paul and Jesus, right, is that what you're saying? So

950
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: is it both yea, Jesus, Paul through Jesus Paul's the

951
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: one that wrote it down or the other way around?

952
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: Maybe too, Yahweh through Paul, you could say, you know,

953
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: because it wasn't just Yahweh speaking to us through the

954
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: Book of Romans, because Paul comes to play somewhere too.

955
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: Otherwise you take Paul out of it and it's just

956
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: Yahweh speaking and that's not the full story. Yahweh speaking

957
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: through Paul, And it's definitely not just Paul. That would

958
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: be heresy. Yeah, Paul himself says that all scriptures bread

959
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: that by God, and he's writ and Peter and the

960
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: second Peter in this letter says he he listened how

961
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: Peter ends this. It's just funny to what we're just saying,

962
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: he says. He says, therefore, beloved, since you were waiting

963
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: for these things, for these be diligent to be found

964
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: by Him without spotter, blemish, and at peace and count

965
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: the patience of our Lord of Salvation. Just as our

966
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the

967
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters.

968
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: When he speaks of these matters, there are some there

969
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: are some things in them that are hard to understand,

970
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction,

971
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: as they do the other scriptures. So one thing Peter's

972
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 1: doing here is affirming Paul as a writer of scripture.

973
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: But he's also saying that Paul was carried along by

974
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit, and Peter was too. He's saying, I

975
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: was there. Don't doubt me, I was there. This is

976
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: very interesting stuff. Yeah, it's a rabbit hole that the

977
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: Bible invites anyone to come into this rabbital and chase

978
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: it as far as you want, you will never find

979
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: the end of it. That the most critical skeptics could

980
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: come to the Bible and not find the end of.

981
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 3: It, and you can know all of the historical evidence

982
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:17,959
Speaker 3: and still reject christ.

983
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

984
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's no amount of evidence that I can use

985
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 3: to convince you that Christianity is true to convert you.

986
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: That's absolutely right. The thing to understand, too, is that

987
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: all of these New Testament writers were killed for what

988
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: they believe to be true here, which is an interesting thing.

989
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: Their eyewitnesses and that written in the time of other

990
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: eyewitnesses writing after their beloved savior died. Their religion at

991
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: that point only accelerated, it didn't die. It Almost always

992
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: when you have a cult leader comes up and the

993
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: cult leader dies, that the religion dies with it. But

994
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: not in the case of this. That doesn't make any

995
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: sense unless the Christ really did rise from the dead

996
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 1: and visit them. Because if he really rose from the

997
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: dead and the grave was empty, the tomb was empty,

998
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: and he visited them and spoke to them, then that

999
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: would make sense. That Stephen, that we'll start with Peter,

1000
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: since he's the author of this letter, was crucified upside down,

1001
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: and he walked right into it knowing that this was

1002
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: going to happen. Stephen was stoned together in fact, and

1003
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: he asked for that. Yeah, they were going to crucify him,

1004
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: and he said, put me upside down. That's what that's

1005
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: what tradition History, Historic tradition says. Stephen was stoned to death.

1006
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: James was stabbed with the steward, Andrew was hung on across.

1007
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: Nathaniel was skinned alive. James to half brother Jesus was

1008
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: thrown off the temple and then beaten with clubs. That's

1009
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: the one we're just talking about. James, for the guy

1010
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: that talked about Lord Willing has thrown off the top

1011
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: of the temple several times. History says until he was

1012
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: in really bad shape and he still wasn't dead, so

1013
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: they just beat him with clubs. Fattius was beaten and

1014
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: then crucified. Matthew was speared and staked to the ground.

1015
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: Philip was tortured with iron hooks and then hung upside

1016
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: down until he died. Simon was crucified and then sawn

1017
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: in two. Thomas was stabbed with a spear. Matthias was

1018
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: stoned and beheaded. Paul, who wrote most of the New

1019
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: Testaments we talked about, was beheaded by Nero in Rome.

1020
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: And that was the same emperor that killed Peter. Soon after,

1021
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: Nero let the entire city on fire, blamed the Christians

1022
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: for this, and then hunted them down like dogs and

1023
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: killed them one by one and fed them to lions,

1024
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: covered them, and when he fed them the lions, he

1025
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: covered them in skin and then fed them to the lions.

1026
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: The lions were hungry. Some of them he covered in

1027
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: wax and lit them on fire. They were called Roman candles,

1028
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: and placed he would have garden parties like little events entertainment,

1029
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: And they put all these Christians up on the walls,

1030
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: covered in wax and just burned them, and that was

1031
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: the light for his party. This happened quite a bit.

1032
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: He hung them on crosses and lined the roads all

1033
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: the way in and out of the town of Rome,

1034
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: so that you would know, if you came into Rome,

1035
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: don't be like these people. And if you left Rome,

1036
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: remember don't be like these people. That was the reality

1037
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: of Christians for the first three hundred years until Constantine.

1038
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: After christ People may lie for comfort, people may lie

1039
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 1: for money, people may lie for power, but they will

1040
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: rarely die for what they know is a lie. So

1041
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: you have to everything we've said in this podcast. You

1042
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: have to also consider that everyone that wrote these things

1043
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: lost everything, their families, their livelihoods, their jobs, their kids.

1044
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: They lost it all for what they believe was true,

1045
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: for what they wrote down for us then to receive.

1046
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: And we've already made the argument that what they wrote

1047
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: down we could trust was what they really wrote down

1048
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: and was not changed and manipulated. So it all comes

1049
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: down to us going, I have to wrestle with this myself,

1050
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: because if what they're saying is true, this changes everything.

1051
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: And they certainly believed it was true, or they wouldn't

1052
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: have gone through this horrific horror. And that wasn't it.

1053
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean, that wasn't the end of it. As we know.

1054
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: Two thousand years after that, there's a history of martyrdom

1055
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: over and over and over. Yeah, some of them are

1056
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: hanging in my pictures, are hanging in my stairwell up

1057
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: to this studio. William Tindall, You guys remember William Tindall.

1058
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: I was trying to translate the Bible. We mentioned him

1059
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: the other day, trying to translate the Bible into English

1060
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: because he people couldn't speak Latin and the Bible was

1061
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: only in Latin, and he just thought, Yeah, people couldn't

1062
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: read Latin, and he just thought that people should, the

1063
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: common people should know the word of God in their

1064
01:00:58,520 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: common language.

1065
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 2: That was.

1066
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: Something that he was willing to risk his whole life for.

1067
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: And he got into this conversation, History says, with a

1068
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: church official who told him to Tindell as he was

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Speaker 1: making this argument, I think people should be able to speak.

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Speaker 1: I read the Bible in the language I speak. And

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Speaker 1: he was this church official, according to History, says it

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Speaker 1: would be better for us to be without God's law

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Speaker 1: than without the popes. And to that Tyndell responded famously

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Speaker 1: in History, if God spare my life ere many years,

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Speaker 1: I will cause a boy that driveth the plow to

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Speaker 1: know more of the Scripture than thou dost. That's in

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Speaker 1: him in a really, really bad place against the Church

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Speaker 1: because translating the Bible in the English was illegal, and

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Speaker 1: he had to flee. He was on the run for

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Speaker 1: most of his life after this, going and hiding making

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Speaker 1: copies working. You imagine this candle light slowly working, using

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Speaker 1: the Greek and translating into English, smuggling the copies in

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Speaker 1: like bales of cloth and barrels of grain back into England,

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Speaker 1: everyone trying to the authorities were trying to stop it,

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Speaker 1: and people were seized. If you got caught with this,

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Speaker 1: you're dead. They're going to kill you for this. But

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Speaker 1: it kept on spreading until one day he was finally caught, betrayed, arrested,

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Speaker 1: imprisoned in Belgium, and then after a year of imprisonment,

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Speaker 1: he was taken outside the city in fifteen thirty six,

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Speaker 1: strangled and burned at the stake, and he finally his

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Speaker 1: final recorded words as the flames lapped up to his face,

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Speaker 1: as he's on that steak, he said, Lord opened the

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Speaker 1: King of England's eyes, and he died. And with just

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Speaker 1: a few years his prayer was answered. And there was

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Speaker 1: a man, the King of England named James, who officially

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Speaker 1: commissioned that Tyndale's work be looked at and translated for

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Speaker 1: the common Tongue, which is the creation of the King

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Speaker 1: James Bible. It is estimated now that eighty to ninety

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Speaker 1: percent of the New Testament of the King James New

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Speaker 1: Testament traces back to Tyndale's work on the run in

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Speaker 1: that candle light, all by himself, and that amazing, that's

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Speaker 1: that's incredible credible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people will.

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Speaker 1: Say too that today there are more martyrs for Christ

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Speaker 1: today in our time than all of those years combined, really.

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Speaker 2: Over the world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because of the mass number of deaths. It's good stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's great.

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Speaker 1: Could I bring up something. There was a comment to this,

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Speaker 1: because we don't ever want to leave this podcast without

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Speaker 1: the Gospel, and we were looking through some comments from

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Speaker 1: last week and I ran across one. So in light

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Speaker 1: of everything we've said, right, everything that we've said about

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Speaker 1: the Bible, get this comment from Aaron from Hannibal, Missouri.

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Speaker 1: He says this, I am a l CMS Lutheran from Hannibal, Missouri.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I am a sinner. Secondly, I was

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Speaker 1: baptized as a baby. Religion was taught to me all

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Speaker 1: my youth that I ran from God, I ran towards

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Speaker 1: worldly things. I believe I was saved even before I

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Speaker 1: was baptized, which you said as a baby. I try

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Speaker 1: to be a patient. Excuse me, I try to be

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Speaker 1: a penitent man by asking for forgiveness from God daily.

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Speaker 1: But I am saved daily in that ask So I

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Speaker 1: am so I am saved daily in that aspect. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for the podcast. I want to say to Aaron,

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Speaker 1: because this is a great transit, trans transition as we

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Speaker 1: think about the end of this pod that you cannot

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Speaker 1: be saved by being a penitent man. You cannot be

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Speaker 1: saved by asking for forgiveness from God daily. You cannot

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Speaker 1: be saved by being baptized. You cannot be saved by

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Speaker 1: saying a prayer. You cannot be saved by anything you do, can't.

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Speaker 1: And this is the gospel we have to know. We

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Speaker 1: are saved because Christ went to the cross and took

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Speaker 1: sin on himself. He took on the punishment that we

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Speaker 1: deserved as being rebels, like Aaron says, from running from God.

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Speaker 1: This is damaged that cannot be done, and that ends

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Speaker 1: up all of us end up on death row for this.

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Speaker 1: And we are saved because Christ stepped in our place.

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Speaker 1: He became our substitute and died on the cross, so

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Speaker 1: that all who look to him would be saved, not

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Speaker 1: because of anything they've done, not even asking for forgiveness.

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Speaker 1: Christ secures salvation in the cross, and the people that

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Speaker 1: look to him in faith and trust that forgiveness as

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Speaker 1: we see as Christ is revealed in this Bible. We've

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Speaker 1: made an argument is reliable and illuminating and authoritative, all

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Speaker 1: that looked to Christ as revealed in this Bible, and

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Speaker 1: trust him and not in their own penitence. Aaron, I

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Speaker 1: hope that's you, brother. I hope, I hope that you're

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Speaker 1: not relying on your own penitence, because if you are,

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Speaker 1: you will be judged on that reliability, not the right

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Speaker 1: reliability that we see in this the Word of God,

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Speaker 1: that's the gospel.

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Speaker 2: Amen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, any other comments? Yeah, we should read from last week.

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Speaker 2: Joey said, I look forward to Monday every week when

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Speaker 2: the new episode comes out. I listen on my commute

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Speaker 2: to work, and I honestly feel like y'all are in

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Speaker 2: the truck with me, just like you always said in

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Speaker 2: the old podcast. It looking forward next week. Joey is

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Speaker 2: from North Georgia. David said, we blame the algorithm so often,

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Speaker 2: but this episode showed up for me, and I'm so thankful.

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Speaker 2: Love ninety nine for one name and the real conversations

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Speaker 2: you guys are having and we love having you. David.

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Speaker 2: Matt said, love the podcast. My wife and I can't

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Speaker 2: wait until Monday to see what the new episode will

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Speaker 2: be about. Walt from Little Rock, Arkansas. Good stuff.

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Speaker 1: So we asked last week for people to comment on

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Speaker 1: our YouTube page and comment some ideas for new topics,

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Speaker 1: and I loved those answers, so thank you for those.

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Speaker 1: We kept a bunch of them. A bunch of them

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Speaker 1: ended up being really good questions that I think we

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Speaker 1: should just answer in general that I think some people thought, hey,

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Speaker 1: can you make a whole podcast on this? And when

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Speaker 1: I read it, I thought, maybe not, But we could

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Speaker 1: answer that question for you and just run around the

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Speaker 1: horn here. So do that again. If you have a

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Speaker 1: question or if you want to hear us talk about

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Speaker 1: a subject, go to the YouTube page ninety nine for

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Speaker 1: one the podcast and comment that which leads us to

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Speaker 1: the book giveaway this week. Because we're also going to

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Speaker 1: give away a book, and last week's was for a Bible.

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Speaker 1: Last week's was for a Bible. We're back to a

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Speaker 1: regular book that's not inspired, but that's encouraging. This one

1184
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Speaker 1: is called Who Chose the Gospels? Probing the Great Gospel

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01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 1: Conspiracy by ce Hill. Excellent book, and it talks about

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Speaker 1: a subject that we didn't get into today, and that is, well,

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Speaker 1: what do we do? Like why do we have Matthew Mark,

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Speaker 1: Luke John, why do we have Why do we have

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Speaker 1: those four? What about the Gospel of Mary, the Gospel

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Speaker 1: of Thomas, the Gospel of Peter?

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Speaker 2: Are else Enoch?

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Speaker 1: Were all these books? And wasn't it Granger? I heard

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Speaker 1: everything you said about we could trust the manuscripts and

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Speaker 1: the the time and the language. I heard all that,

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Speaker 1: But weren't there more books that then got left out?

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Speaker 1: So that was where the king comes in who wants

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Speaker 1: who has power and says I'm not I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna leave these books out because this makes me look

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Speaker 1: better or whatever. The argument is, what do we do

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Speaker 1: with that? Well, that's a whole different podcast, and we

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Speaker 1: can make great We could have a great conversation about that,

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Speaker 1: and those answers are a lot simpler than you think.

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Speaker 1: But this is an awesome book. Who chose the Gospels?

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01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 2: And it?

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Speaker 1: Man, it has like a surprise ending. It's really good.

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Speaker 1: I haven't read this in a few years, but Parker.

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Speaker 1: Parker's like, don't you have any good books about this stuff?

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01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: And I remembered that this one's great And if anyone

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Speaker 1: wants to get a hold of this one, it's going

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Speaker 1: to talk about a lot of the things we talked

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Speaker 1: about today. Comment below, who chose the gospels, who chose

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Speaker 1: the gospels, who chose the gospels, who chose the Gospels?

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Speaker 1: And then we will give this book away. Cayden will

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Speaker 1: pick a winner, will sign this and give it away.

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Speaker 1: Excellent book. And I will say that this is not

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Speaker 1: that you could trust this book. I want to say

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Speaker 1: that you could trust anything we give from this podcast.

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Speaker 1: But this, this is not some crazy conspiracy. It ends

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Speaker 1: up being the Gospels were always always recognized by the

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Speaker 1: early Church and people before that were these four Gospels

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Speaker 1: were always recognized, and you could date it all the

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Speaker 1: way back to the end of the Apostles themselves, specifically John,

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Speaker 1: the apostle John. So it wasn't it wasn't that that

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Speaker 1: one person chose them, or that it wasn't that the

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Speaker 1: Council of Nicia got together and said, here's here's what

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Speaker 1: we're going to choose. It was that when they got

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Speaker 1: together and the canon was finalized, it was affirming what

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Speaker 1: was already recognized, right as the four Gospels and the

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Speaker 1: sixty six books, which Isaiah, by the way, has sixty

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Speaker 1: six chapters thirty nine or the first half of Isaiah

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Speaker 1: twenty seven in the second exactly like our old New Testament.

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Speaker 1: First one largely about law. Second one largely about the

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Speaker 1: redemption of the law. That's another topic, maybe for another

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Speaker 1: another day. Are we we're already long? I've already talked

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Speaker 1: too much. See I stayed up till two thirty in

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Speaker 1: the morning, and I still talk too much on the podcast. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: any anything else? Can we miss anything?

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Speaker 2: Know that if any of the books that we talk

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Speaker 2: about here too, if you go to nine nine four

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01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 2: one the podcast dot com all the books that we

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01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 2: talk about, and then once we give away, you can

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Speaker 2: also purchase there.

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Speaker 1: We'll just put links for you. Make it easy. Cool stuff.

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Speaker 1: Love you guys, See you next Monday. Yigh, Lord willing