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Speaker 2: Look at this now. Tip to Tim. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. Hey, it's the Monday. It's the Monday,

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Speaker 1: the Monday. There's only one Monday, and it's the Monday,

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Speaker 1: the twenty seventh of February twenty twenty three, and it's

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Speaker 1: time for Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Everyone, we're going to react to all of the wonderful

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Speaker 1: things in the world of combat sports that happened over

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Speaker 1: the weekend. I am merely one half of your host

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Speaker 1: and duo. My name is Luke Thomas. I join you

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Speaker 1: from the capital of Astatus of Needles right here in Washington, DC,

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Speaker 1: joined by my philibustering friend he just just can't stop philibustering.

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Speaker 1: Should be on the Senate floor in my hometown, but

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Speaker 1: he's in his own hometown, which is Connecticut. A place

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Speaker 1: in Connecticut, and it sucks. It's Connecticut. Hi, Brian Campbell, haverck.

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Speaker 2: I'm in my home state of New England. Get it right, Okay, Look,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much. Great to be back on this

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Speaker 2: Monday morning. Weird weekend of fights, and I know everybody

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Speaker 2: can't wait to show up, and here BC try to

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Speaker 2: work himself out of the corner on scoring that Paul

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Speaker 1: Did you beat up for it?

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Speaker 2: I was wrong. It should have been it should actually

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Speaker 2: have been seven rounds to one in favor of Jake Paul.

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Speaker 2: So I got that one wrong. Sorry, I'm sorry, folks,

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Speaker 2: but uh, I don't mean to pull Luke Thomas here.

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Speaker 2: I just don't care. All right now, seriously, I rescored it.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that. But great to be back. Look

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Speaker 1: I thought it was all right again, it's the same

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Speaker 1: thing I have with Jake Paul in general. It's like,

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Speaker 1: Allen had a good tweet about it. He was like,

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Speaker 1: So we'll get to that. We'll talk about UFC as well.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about some of the boxing over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: have a post fight show to react to UFC two

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Speaker 1: pregame preview came out with Chuck Mendenhall for UFC two

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Speaker 1: com Slash Morning Combat. We get you set for everything

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Speaker 1: with a return of John Jones, and of course we'll

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Speaker 2: Now quickly on that pregame preview, Luke, we do great

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Speaker 2: pregame preview for UFC two eighty six, Luke, because we

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Speaker 2: You went or. I told you I'm coming back. I

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Speaker 1: All right, So you here's what. Here's what BC did.

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Speaker 1: BC correctly predicted Amasov would win. Check did not predict

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Speaker 2: But not to be the joker at the moment you

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Speaker 2: at the moment, you know what I'm saying, Luke, making

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Speaker 1: one good weekend. I would wait until you're at least

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Speaker 1: We haven't done that yet. We haven't done that yet,

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Speaker 2: Was close to that five and oh, Luke, and I

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Speaker 1: I'm actually happy when you do better, because I just

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Speaker 1: the weekend, it marches on. All right, let's go to

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Speaker 1: customarily do, which is MMA. But I think the biggest

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Speaker 1: to us via Belatore belat Or two Anyone took place

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always a provocative discussion when we do that,

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Speaker 1: Not much, not much that was that was. I mean,

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Speaker 2: That are asking a difficult question.

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Speaker 1: Luke, well, let me just say this, let me just

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, just just look at that performance over

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Speaker 2: as if he had been training for two full years, right,

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Speaker 2: Look, we made the right prediction here, and I think

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Johnnybler. I'm not sure if you saw it,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a great nickname idea for our CBS

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Speaker 2: How about AG two? No is that too uhad is

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Speaker 1: It's just too you see last thing on this here's

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Speaker 2: see that ship. Okay, if Michael Page.

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Speaker 1: But who are you, okay, gun to your head, who

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Speaker 1: you're picking amazof for Page?

433
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Speaker 2: For sure, Amasoft, no question. But look, you do agree

434
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Speaker 2: that Page brings a wildcard element that no other fighter

435
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Speaker 2: can reproduce.

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Speaker 1: Sure sure. And then beyond that, Jason Jackson I think

437
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Speaker 1: deserves to be taken seriously. Then there's Douglas Lima. Then

438
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Speaker 1: there's Goichi Yamauchi, Nieman Gracie, Andre Koreshkov he's a wildcard too,

439
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Speaker 1: and then Lorenz Lark and Lorenz Larkin having a phenomenal

440
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Speaker 1: last performance, he's a walk card. I'm just saying, I

441
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Speaker 1: got a lot of guys in that division where you

442
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Speaker 1: would comfortably say Amazov's got his work cutout for him

443
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Speaker 1: except for maybe one or most two.

444
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but his training partner and buddy is a top

445
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Speaker 2: of the middleway division at the moment, Luke, So somebody's

446
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Speaker 2: got to pull a DC and stay away.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, very good. We move on to the

448
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Speaker 1: second topic, BC, which is the UFC card. Now, Krilov

449
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Speaker 1: got sick right but the day of the fight, and

450
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Speaker 1: so they had to call it, I mean on the

451
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Speaker 1: broadcast that he wasn't going to compete so skipping that

452
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Speaker 1: for just a moment, we go to the fight that

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Speaker 1: ended up being the main event, which was Brendan Allen

454
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Speaker 1: I think, very surprisingly, but he earned it upsetting Andre

455
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Speaker 1: Moonize submitting him BC in the UFC Vegas seventy ad

456
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Speaker 1: hoc main event. Having witnessed this and everyone was talking

457
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Speaker 1: big about Moonise, me in particular, I thought, I, dude,

458
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Speaker 1: I only thought he was gonna win. I thought he

459
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Speaker 1: was gonna roll here. Nope, totally blew up in my face.

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Speaker 1: So in your mind Moniz was ranked eleven. Does this

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Speaker 1: mean you think Brendan Allen is ready for the top

462
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Speaker 1: ten at well?

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Speaker 2: Look, with this type of performance, he showed me that

464
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Speaker 2: whether or not he truly is ready, I think he

465
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Speaker 2: deserves an opportunity to show that because he had already

466
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Speaker 2: put together I believe a three fight winning streak entering

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Speaker 2: this fight. But look, we know his levels. We felt

468
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Speaker 2: like we knew his upper bound limits. We'd seen him

469
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Speaker 2: lose before, but bounce back with wins. Dude, he flipped

470
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Speaker 2: the script here and I thought the emotion he showed

471
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Speaker 2: immediately afterwards in the post fight interview with his Davy

472
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Speaker 2: crocketead On by basically saying like, do you know how

473
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Speaker 2: many times I've heard people count me out this week?

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Speaker 2: You do wonder, Luke, you know, and we saw that

475
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Speaker 2: with Tommy Fury to be fair ahead of Jake Paul.

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Speaker 2: You wonder if somebody in the build up leaning into

477
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Speaker 2: what is expected to be, you know, a close fight

478
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Speaker 2: in terms of the odds and on paper, but the

479
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Speaker 2: collective opinion is pushing back against them so strongly. And

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Speaker 2: you're right. I mentioned that comment for I and Parker ESPN,

481
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Speaker 2: a guy that that I talked to from here and

482
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Speaker 2: now and then, and he said, look, there's a formotential

483
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Speaker 2: feature title challenger in Muni's which you know isn't entirely

484
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Speaker 2: out of the question for the rest of his career here,

485
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Speaker 2: but he got humbled and Brendan Allen raised his game,

486
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Speaker 2: There's no question about it. His ability to reverse on

487
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Speaker 2: the ground, which we expected maybe could be Muniz's, Munize's

488
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Speaker 2: opportunity to get you know, to have big moments, and

489
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Speaker 2: certainly what he was able to do on the feet,

490
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Speaker 2: never really allowing himself to get too lit up, consistently

491
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Speaker 2: worked well from distance, had good defense that all pales

492
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Speaker 2: in comparison to the surprise of him to go in

493
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Speaker 2: there and submit andre the way he did. So yeah, Luke,

494
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Speaker 2: hell yeah, it's time for him to show us exactly

495
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Speaker 2: how good he really is. You got to give these

496
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Speaker 2: type of fighters, guys that come in trade wins and losses,

497
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Speaker 2: need to learn that craft refine. You got to give

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Speaker 2: them that chance to do that, Luke. And this was

499
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Speaker 2: an unexpected breakthrough moment, not just getting the upset win,

500
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Speaker 2: but having the main event fall apart and suddenly this

501
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Speaker 2: is Brendan Allen's knight. You know what I love best.

502
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Speaker 2: He called out the two guys who had most recently

503
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Speaker 2: defeated him, Chris Curtis and Sean Strickland, and said, hey,

504
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 2: let's run this right back. It's exactly what I want

505
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 2: to see out of him, Luke, and I want to

506
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Speaker 2: see him again here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's had four wins since the Chris Curtis loss,

508
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Speaker 1: so he's on a four fight win streak, three of

509
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Speaker 1: those by rear naked choke. Here's the point. Though. His

510
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: last loss was in December of twenty twenty one, so

511
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Speaker 1: about a year and some change ago, and then the

512
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Speaker 1: loss before that. His only two losses in UFC are

513
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Speaker 1: Sean Strickland and Chris Curtis, so it's not like he's

514
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Speaker 1: losing to chumps. And then the loss to Sean Stricklan,

515
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Speaker 1: which was a catchway at one ninety five, he lost

516
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, which is now November of twenty twenty,

517
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Speaker 1: so two years and some change. I bring this all

518
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Speaker 1: up to SABC. He just turned twenty seven. He just

519
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Speaker 1: turned twenty seven. I've said this a million times, and

520
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: I didn't obey my own rule here, so it blew

521
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Speaker 1: up in my face and it tells you what you

522
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: need to know. Like these guys who come in to

523
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Speaker 1: the UFC at twenty four, sometimes twenty five. Sometimes you

524
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Speaker 1: can get Illiot to Portia, which still has some things

525
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Speaker 1: to work on, but looks like he has a direct

526
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Speaker 1: line of sight to the title. And then there's other

527
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Speaker 1: guys who come in there who show flashes of inspiration

528
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Speaker 1: but need a little bit more time to work things

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Speaker 1: out through the portion of their twenties, and when they

530
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Speaker 1: get to the late twenties and early thirties, that's when

531
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Speaker 1: everything is beginning to Gael. If you're twenty seven and

532
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Speaker 1: you're already doing the work that he's doing, it's time

533
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Speaker 1: to understand that one, he's capable of massive improvement between fights.

534
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Speaker 1: But then that leads to the second conclusion, which is

535
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Speaker 1: yet to be very careful declaring who a guy is

536
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Speaker 1: when he's in this stage of his career. The amount

537
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Speaker 1: of change both positive and negative, but certainly on the

538
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Speaker 1: positive side that is capable makes them just utterly different

539
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Speaker 1: fight to fight. And so what I'll say in this

540
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Speaker 1: one is that I thought, I thought Allen looked really good.

541
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Speaker 1: He got caught on the feet more than I would like,

542
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Speaker 1: but in general didn't get didn't get into stupid firefights,

543
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Speaker 1: which he's gotten to before. So he was making better

544
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Speaker 1: decisions after being hit, which he.

545
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Speaker 2: Had greascipline, Yeah, discipline, discipline, that's It wasn't that he

546
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: was untouched by me, but it was the ability to

547
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Speaker 2: take a step back and regroup and be able to swivel.

548
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, there was there's a lot of plus

549
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Speaker 2: one elements to his game that I just hadn't seen

550
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Speaker 2: there before.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Better decision making is really the issue.

552
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Speaker 1: Their better decision making. So there's still other parts to

553
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: his game about being hit that probably needs some work.

554
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: Like any twenty seven year old UFC fighter, would would

555
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: want to get in. But in terms of just not

556
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: compounding his own mistakes, he did a great job, and

557
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Speaker 1: he already had a really good skill set already on

558
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Speaker 1: the ground. Like look at again, three out of four

559
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: wins of his last four come by the exact same submission.

560
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Speaker 1: He is a dangerous, dangerous threat from the back. Now,

561
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Speaker 1: the question I asked you was is he ready for

562
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Speaker 1: the top ten? I would say maybe pump the brakes

563
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Speaker 1: on that a little bit. Partly I think Muni's just

564
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Speaker 1: I don't know. He looked a little weird, right, a

565
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Speaker 1: little weird. By the way, if you go to the

566
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Speaker 1: UFC dot com slash rankings page, is it my imagination

567
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Speaker 1: or is the entire thing in Russian? I think someone

568
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Speaker 1: hacked it. Oh, no, someone hacked it. There's all kinds

569
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Speaker 1: of Russian names built there, and yeah, someone hacked it.

570
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Speaker 1: If you go to UFC dot com slash rankings, it's hacked.

571
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Speaker 2: Yeah. If each each ranking has the person three times Luke.

572
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Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of interesting. What I was gonna say was,

573
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Speaker 1: in speaking of the top fifteen four the UFC, I mean,

574
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Speaker 1: you've got some tough names in there. Chris Curtis is

575
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Speaker 1: still ranked fourteen, and by the way, he already beat

576
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Speaker 1: Brendan Allen. You've got Kelvin Gaslim at thirteen, you've got

577
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Speaker 1: Nessordine Imovov, You've Imovov, and you've got when he's sitting

578
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Speaker 1: at eleven dar until at fifteen, maybe he's ready for

579
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Speaker 1: the top ten. Not saying he's not, but I still

580
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Speaker 1: think there's work to do from eleven to fifteen that

581
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Speaker 1: would still give us some fun fights. Why not do

582
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Speaker 1: a Chris Curtis rematch?

583
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: Right?

584
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: Why not do one? That's a great test in either direction?

585
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Speaker 2: For sure? For sure? And you know, again you asked me,

586
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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's fully ready. I want to

587
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Speaker 2: see him, though, get the shot to start to start

588
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: facing and defeating guys of that level. And ILK and

589
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: Luke speaking to close on the hacked UFC rankings page.

590
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Speaker 2: You think somebody could have hacked in some rankings for

591
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Speaker 2: the women's featherweight division for the first time, Luke, we're

592
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Speaker 2: only six years into this division, right, Uh?

593
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

594
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Speaker 1: What six years into what division?

595
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Speaker 2: One? Four? Five women? Oh, they've never had rankings yet

596
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Speaker 2: on the UFC rankings page.

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Speaker 1: Still empty, yeah, still empty. It's you know, what do

598
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Speaker 1: you wanna say about that I mean.

599
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Speaker 2: I mean it is, yeah, Megan Anderson not coming through

600
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 2: that door, Luke, neither is the other people Cyborg beep yeah.

601
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Speaker 2: But now it's you know, yeah, Okay, got it?

602
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 3: There you go.

603
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about or Amanda or you get

604
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Speaker 2: my point, you get the g I get your point.

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00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about in point number three, the other

606
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Speaker 1: UFC fight on this card that I thought was worthy

607
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Speaker 1: of some examination here. So after nearly four years, three

608
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Speaker 1: and a half, basically, Tatiana Suarez is back and she

609
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: was victorious, submitting in the second round Montana de la

610
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: Rosa via guillotine choke. BC. Did Tatiana Suarez look to you,

611
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Speaker 1: based off of this performance, ready to contend for a title?

612
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Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, I'd like to hear your your rebuttal and

613
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: comeback on there. But what's most interesting to me, after

614
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Speaker 2: such a long layoff and all the questions about injuries

615
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: that have slowed her down and what that could potentially

616
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Speaker 2: do to somebody mentally, Luke, she erased that time. I

617
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 2: want to compare her to the people that have famously

618
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: in the UFC erased large periods of time and act

619
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Speaker 2: like it didn't matter, you know, people like George Saint

620
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Speaker 2: Pierre dominant cruise. I'm not going to say this performance

621
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Speaker 2: was on that level. No, it was workman like or

622
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: work woman like, Luke, and ultimately dominant in that one gear.

623
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Speaker 2: But what it did show me is the thing that

624
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Speaker 2: that always seems special about Tatiana Suarez to begin with,

625
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: when she won Tough at strawweight and when she looked

626
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: to be an early sort of long shot dark term

627
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: or you know, long term dark horse title contender, is

628
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 2: the mental toughness. It just seems to be next level.

629
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Speaker 2: We're gonna play some sound later from her on have

630
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: you seen the shit that will embellish this more? But

631
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: we know what her strength is. She came out with

632
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: that strength, and she was plotting and and uh, you know,

633
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: like you knew what she was coming with, but it

634
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: was like this giant boulder rolling down the hill. Eventually

635
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: it broke Montana dale Rosa and she was able to

636
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Speaker 2: get and get the position she needed and she got

637
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Speaker 2: the finish. What I think is most interesting, Luke, is

638
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Speaker 2: that despite coming back here in a one hundred and

639
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 2: twenty five pound bout, and despite a lot of our

640
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: early talk heading into her return of Wow, the women's

641
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: flyweight division is suddenly fun again. What the hell does

642
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: you know? What place does Tatiana Suarez hold if she

643
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: comes back and gets a win, Even though obviously I'm

644
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: not looking over that. She was a heavy favorite, deserved

645
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: to be and defeated somebody who's tough in Montana de

646
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: la Rosa. But skill for skill, she should be unless

647
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: there's problems from the layoff. She's not talking about flyweight, Luke.

648
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: She's talking directly about coming back in strawweight and continuing

649
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: that quest that she was on. So I think there's

650
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: a lot to like from this performance. She didn't show

651
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: us a lot in terms of striking. Again, it was

652
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: workman like plotting, but once she starts closing distance, can

653
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: take you down. Can do what she does, Luke, She's

654
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: a force to be reckoned with and intangible wise, some

655
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: people overrate or underrate what those things can actually mean. Dude,

656
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: she has dialed the hell in in almost a scary way. Yeah.

657
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: Do I expect her to fight for a title soon,

658
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: if she can stay healthy in either division, if she

659
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: can start stockpiling wins, Yeah, yeah, I do, Luke, And

660
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: I think it's great to see somebody who showed that

661
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 2: much talent and face that much. You know, hurdles, pitfalls

662
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,239
Speaker 2: that are largely outside of your control. Put it all

663
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: back together when the moment calls for it, and deliver.

664
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: But can I tee it back up to you in

665
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: a way that says, Luke from a text message you

666
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: sent me, I'm a little concerned that you weren't as

667
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: impressed as I am. So why don't you stand up

668
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: and tell me why?

669
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: So?

670
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: The question is I asked, I'm going to answer the

671
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: question that I asked you, same one, which was based

672
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: on this performance. Did I see someone ready to contend

673
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: for a title?

674
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: I did not?

675
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: I did not. Now I want to be very clear

676
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: about this number one. To come back the way she did.

677
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: We all know the story. After three and a half

678
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: years and just win in the UFC is already insanely

679
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: difficult to do it finish even better, better, up a

680
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: weight class, even better, Like it's I don't want anyone

681
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: to listen to what I'm saying and says like and

682
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: try to position it like I'm downgrading what an accomplishment

683
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: it was. It's an outrageous accomplishment. And more to the point,

684
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: this is what I am gonna say I need to

685
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: see a little bit more. What I'm telling YOUBC is

686
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: based off of this performance. Did I see someone ready

687
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: to contend for a title? No, But I don't know

688
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: that this performance is necessarily all that representative of what

689
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: we might get from a more consistent in shape. I mean,

690
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: she was in shape, but you know what I mean,

691
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: like in rotation constantly Suarez. There's a question about like

692
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: how representative that is, and I feel like it's not

693
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: very representative. I feel like it's representative of the person

694
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: that we got in the cage that night in terms

695
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: of being gone for so long, but not in terms

696
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: of what she can actually produce if she can stay

697
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: healthy and consistently fighting. And here's why I say that.

698
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: You know, listen, man, women's wrestling in the last four

699
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: years and I'm has come a long way. And to me,

700
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: it was something of an interesting sign that most of

701
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: her wrestling attacks didn't really work very well. She had

702
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: to switch from her leg attacks. She did get I

703
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: think what a head inside single, but in general, most

704
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: of like the level changing, trying to grab the legs,

705
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: trying to work the single or the double, it didn't

706
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: really go very well. Most of the good stuff came

707
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: from headwhips or what you might not as a head toss,

708
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: where she's able to like club the head and then

709
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: turn and then get Dala Rosa off of her base

710
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: and then almost throwing the kajudo throw right like, that's

711
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: that's what That's what Tatio Sworaz was able to use.

712
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: And that's fine because that's a real wrestling move and

713
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: she has real wrestling and she was able to make

714
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: it work. But it's almost like a regression that she

715
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: had to switch it up that way to get the takedown.

716
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: And I say this to a point out like Dela

717
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: Rosa has not been known as like a fierce takedown

718
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: defense kind of person. And granted it's up a weight

719
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: class and what Tatio Swarez was typically used to. Again,

720
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: it's her first fight in three and a half years.

721
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I didn't see an overwhelming force of

722
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: nature this time, and I didn't see a huge gap

723
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: necessarily in grappling skill. I mean, yes, there was a difference,

724
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: for sure, Tatiana Suarez was better, but it wasn't like this.

725
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: I thought it would be much more of a gigantic

726
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: gap and it wasn't and I do feel like it's

727
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: important to say four years is a long time for

728
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons, not least of which is how

729
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: much development of the game can take in that amount

730
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: of time. And I think Suarez has a little bit

731
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: more of her work cut out for her than I

732
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: originally had thought.

733
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you tease the sort of natural knee

734
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: jerk reaction to that, And I think it's fair to

735
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: bring up like Montana de la Rosa up to this

736
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: point at one two five, not a world beater, but

737
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: is big for the weight class. And where is her

738
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: strength particularly involved with the ground?

739
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 4: Right?

740
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: I mean she's got jiu jitsu, not wrestling rightly, but right,

741
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: But that's not a it's not a foreign disconnection to

742
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: link your wrestling, your takedown defense into what you do

743
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: positively not automatic either on an offensive level. So if

744
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: it took Tatiana more time after a break like that

745
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: at a division above where she competed in the past

746
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: and above where she now intends on competing moving forward,

747
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 2: and she didn't get it lit up and she got

748
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: a somewhat dominant second round submission, I get what you're

749
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: saying about some things that we assumed would be easy. Weren't.

750
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: But I chalk a lot of that up to the

751
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,479
Speaker 2: layoff Luke and the injuries and the adjustment she's making.

752
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 2: Is she going to have that same problem at one

753
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: point fifteen, looking to secure takedowns and using the combination

754
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: of her wrestling skills in her physicality. I'm not sure,

755
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: Luke not sure. I'm not sure.

756
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: Hear what I'll say. We basically agree on the complexion

757
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: of this fight and how it looked. Suarez was better.

758
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: She was the better fighter. She won via finish, nothing

759
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: accidental about it. She deserved it. It's an amazing accomplishment.

760
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: I think what some people are looking at is they're

761
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: looking at this fight and saying, well, because she was

762
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: off for three and a half years, and yeah, she

763
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: didn't like completely roll over Montange de le Rosa, but

764
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: she was better, it must mean that in subsequent fights

765
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: she'll make up that difference at one fifteen see the

766
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: old one. And my point is it certainly could mean that.

767
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: In fact, it might absolutely mean that. It doesn't necessarily

768
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: mean that, That's my point. It doesn't necessarily mean that

769
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: we can grade on a curve such that we can

770
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: say when she goes to one fifteen, all of the

771
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: other pieces will pick back up where they were. My

772
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: point is, let's see, I cannot declare to you to

773
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: that not to be true. I don't know that. But

774
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: I just need to know a little bit more about

775
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: her except for one bout up aweight class after three

776
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: and a half years, to know if she's ready to

777
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: be the very best at one hundred and fifteen. And

778
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a crazy thought.

779
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: Not a crazy thought. I mean, you know, there's things

780
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: you have to prove over time. But I guess I

781
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: was more intrigued impressed by what she did in the

782
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: long run now, Luke specific I.

783
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: Mean, don't take it from you now, and I know

784
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: you're not trying to. I'm impressed by what she did.

785
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: I just didn't see a title contender sure from that

786
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: performance on Saturday.

787
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: Fair fair enough in that regard. What do you feel

788
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 2: though about her comments of wanting to cut back down

789
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: and continue the run she started at one fifteen? In theory, Luke,

790
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: it's a longer path to the title because that division

791
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: has more consistent depth since its launch in twenty fourteen.

792
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it's always sort of historically talented to a

793
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: certain degree, I'll give one twenty five credit for repopulating,

794
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: But in terms of the size differences she'll hold and

795
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: the path to the top, is this the smartest move

796
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: in your eyes in terms of the two division offerings

797
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: to her available.

798
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: So I think it might be. I think it might

799
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: be because her style is physical, she gets a little

800
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: extra physicality out of it at one point fifteen. Also,

801
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: like I give her and the UFC credit here, I

802
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 1: think they played this one the right way. She didn't

803
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: want to cut too much weight for her first one back.

804
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: I think she still felt she'd be competitive at one

805
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: twenty five. She was right and that she didn't want

806
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: the toughest opponent relative to what you know her strengths

807
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: and her weaknesses are they they wanted a respectable opponent

808
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: and a talented one, but one that I think they

809
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: felt was beatable. They were right about that, and that's

810
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: the perfect This is my point, Like, if this is

811
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: just the get back, get right fight, and then she

812
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: can really begin to home in on the things she's

813
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: very very good at with subsequent performances, then this is

814
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: this is tremendous. I'm just saying based off of this,

815
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: given the uncertainty around it. It seems a little premature

816
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: to declare a title contender emerged from this bout for

817
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: a different weight class. It's a smart return bout, but

818
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: we still got to see her put that into action

819
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: before we can truly be sure.

820
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 2: All right, that's fair, Luke, it's fair. You're not You're

821
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: not hurt anyone feeling sure, it's fair. We gotta see it.

822
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: We got to see it. Let's do it. Let's hope

823
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 2: for her sake she can stay healthy and she could

824
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 2: stay on that road, Luke.

825
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: And uh So, I didn't like the way she pulled guard.

826
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: I didn't like that way. I prefer it when guard

827
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: is pulled where they wrap the legs before the other

828
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: fighter has a chance to retreat to the ground, and

829
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: this time she kind of had one and the other

830
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: one got stuck. She did a good job of switching

831
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 1: the head into the guillotine and then jumping. It's better

832
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: when you can jump and wrap all at the same time,

833
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: because you can get that real heavy lean on the

834
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: back of the neck when you do it that way.

835
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: So a couple of it seemed to me BC a

836
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: little rusty, a little rusty, justifiably, which is understandable.

837
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: And didn't show a lot of striking and you know,

838
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: look to look to lock up and take down and

839
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: you know, like you said, had her struggles in doing that,

840
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: but eventually was able to come over the top with it.

841
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: But let's let's let's give that time. And the key

842
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: is she's got to be active and busy and stay healthy.

843
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: And if she can do that, Luke, you know, I don't.

844
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: She's somebody that I think I see enough of the

845
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: other areas, the long term questions. I have look so

846
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: dialed in, so so confident, so determined to really you know,

847
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: persevere through anything that let's work out the kinks behind

848
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 2: the scenes. She'll be I think she'll be just fine,

849
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: but let's find out. I mean, look, there's no no

850
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: shortage of of you know, like I said, even his

851
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: sot great names in the division. Right now, Let's get

852
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 2: a couple wins under the belt, and I don't think

853
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 2: it'll be long before she's fighting in the type of

854
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: bouts at one point fifteen that with a big performance

855
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 2: could propel her right to the top.

856
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's hope she stays healthy. Let's hope she

857
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: can get back into consistent rotation. And if she can

858
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: and she can show that. Of course, after three and

859
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: a half years, what do you expect, I'm gonna look

860
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: a little rusty, which is totally understandable. She might develop

861
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: into exactly who we thought. I thought she was definitely

862
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: gonna be. I think she just needs a couple more rotations.

863
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: All right, BC, let's get to I mean, I candidly,

864
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how much our audience cares about it,

865
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: but there's an audience for it because apparently it broke

866
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,479
Speaker 1: the bank with CBA Sports in terms of traffic. Jake

867
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: Paul and Tommy Fiury finally, if you want to use

868
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 1: that word, fought yesterday, eight round contest. They were about

869
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty four pounds each, give or take,

870
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: and Tommy Fury wins a split decision. Now, BC, you

871
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: kind of teased it earlier, so we'll go to you

872
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: first on this. How did you score it? And I

873
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: guess the better question is here, what did Tommy Fury

874
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: proveou this win?

875
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's start off at the top. Like you know,

876
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: we mentioned sometimes the story of the fight. Who had

877
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: the better performance, which I think people need to realize

878
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: when you're scoring boxing on the ten round must system,

879
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: you can sometimes get a disparity between what the final

880
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: score is depending on which way you scored it and

881
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 2: what the fight actually look like. Why because in this case,

882
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: Tommy Fury was the better boxer throughout the rounds that

883
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: he clearly won. He won much more dominantly. I ultimately

884
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: scored it live, and when it's an eight round fight,

885
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: you gotta understand. If it's an eight round fight with

886
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: some close rounds, you can get a much closer final

887
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 2: score than a ten or twelve round fight where there's more,

888
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: you know, real estate to prove your dominance. Fight in

889
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: this way, I scored it seventy five to seventy four

890
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: for Jake Paul, and you know, I got roasted on Twitter,

891
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: and I understand why. What that amounts to is essentially

892
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: four rounds to four the points deducted from both of them,

893
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: which I thought from referee was it Hector Afu were

894
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: you know, way out of line.

895
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: Way on time out real quick?

896
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: He was so bad.

897
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,479
Speaker 2: He yeah, way out of line way too quickly. Without

898
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: the problem. Mean he warned a little bit, but just

899
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: sort of jumped the gun. And I felt like the

900
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 2: point he took away from Tommy Fury in round six

901
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: was almost like a makeup call. The good news is

902
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: both of those canceled each other out to a certain degree.

903
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: But look, at the end of the day, Jake Paul

904
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: did score knock down in the final round, which gives

905
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: him an extra point. I had it four to four

906
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: watching live, and of course, you know everyone's going to

907
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: skewer me, despite the fact that it was a split

908
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 2: decision and one judge had the same score in favor

909
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: of Jake. You're the boxing guy all that, BS, But

910
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: let's look at it a little bit closer. I did

911
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: rewatch it because, as we often say, we're not professional judges,

912
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: but we cover combat sports enough to know what we're doing.

913
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: But when you're watching and scoring a fight, we have

914
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: other responsibilities. I'm sending in scores to CBS Sports HQ,

915
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: We're tweeting out a lot of that stuff. Upon rewatch, Luke,

916
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: I actually didn't change much upon rewatch. I've got it.

917
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: The scores flipped seventy five to seventy four, now in

918
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: favor of Tommy Fury, which to me still comes down

919
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: in this regard. I switched round two. So here's what

920
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: you got at the end of the day. Round three

921
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: clearly won by Jake Paul. Nowen's arguing that it was

922
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: his best round for establishing the hard left jab. They

923
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: jousted back and forth, and he had a very nice

924
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: right hand late that kind of wobbled Tommy Fury briefly.

925
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: Round eight with the knockdown. Nobody's questioning that he knocked

926
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 2: Tommy Fury down with the jab and seemed to do

927
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: enough late. But I also gave Jake Paul round five,

928
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: and I think a lot of people miss that Luke.

929
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: Round five was where Jake Paul got deducted a point,

930
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: But what he did after the point was deducted was

931
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: step up his offense with flurries and landed a big

932
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: right hand that actually straight up wobbled Fury and kind of,

933
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 2: for you know, briefly took him off of his game.

934
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: That goes down as a nine to nine round. But

935
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: because Fury also got a point deducted, the next round

936
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: they cancel each other out. So there's three, in my opinion,

937
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: very legitimate rounds for Fury. Three and eight that nobody's arguing,

938
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: and five watching the first time, I gave round two

939
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: to Jake Paul. Upon rewatching, I was wrong that's a

940
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: Tommy Fury round all the way. But what did Tommy

941
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: Fury do overall to deserve this? Stepped up his game

942
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: in a major way, Luke, you and I had echoed

943
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 2: the same point on any platform that gave us a

944
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 2: chance to talk about this. They're both Look, you still

945
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: can't argue this. They're both novice boxers. Credit to them

946
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: obviously for the way that they've raised their games. And

947
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: what Tommy Fury did with all the pressure against him. No,

948
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: he didn't end up signing the contract of all or

949
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: nothing in terms of doubling down on the salaries and

950
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: winner take all, but he had a lot of pressure

951
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 2: from his family at twenty three in this pay per

952
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: view main event to not come out and look like

953
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: a bomb. And you know what he did, Luke, He

954
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: stuck to the basics. And I think what surprised us

955
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: all was that him committing to the basics of a

956
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: power jab mixed with good footwork to get out of

957
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: the way of countershots. Even though he had some good

958
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: combination flurries at certain points, most of the time it

959
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: was power jab get out of the way. Those fundamentals

960
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: frustrate Jake Paul and they were actually enough to get

961
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: the edge in the end, so good to him. This

962
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 2: was the type of performance Tommy Fury needed so that

963
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 2: we stopped calling him, you know, just a reality TV

964
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: star who's trying to live up to the family name. No,

965
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: he raised his game. He frustrated Jake. And I know

966
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: there's been people that have been critical from Jake from

967
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: the beginning, fighting retired MMA stars and said, hey, fight

968
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 2: a real boxer with a jab, you may see something different.

969
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: Is Tommy Ferry at the end of the day a

970
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: real boxer. I think that's still inconclusive. But he stuck

971
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: to the fundamentals better than Jake Paul did in the end,

972
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: and I do think he was the rightful winner, even

973
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: though in real time I scored it against him, but

974
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 2: Luke in an eight round fight with point deductions, a

975
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: knockdown in some close rounds, I know that Tommy Fury

976
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: more than doubled Jake's punches landed according to copybox, but

977
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 2: again that doesn't always tell you the full story of

978
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: the fight. Tommy pretty much cleanly won the rounds that

979
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 2: he won. I thought there were closer rounds than people

980
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: watching at home did in terms of their online scoring,

981
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 2: but the right guy won. That's what matters. Jake of

982
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: course as a rematch, cause can talk about. But I

983
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: didn't think Tommy Fury after watching him on Jake's undercard

984
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: and struggle with MMA fighter Anthony Taylor, who was two

985
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 2: divisions smaller than him, and then getting his own close

986
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: up in recent fights on ESPN plus, he didn't look

987
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: like a world beater. He didn't even look like a

988
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: real boxer. On Sunday he kind of did Luke, and

989
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: he certainly looked like a better real boxer than Jake Paul.

990
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: So you know what, Tommy Fury, you impressed me. You

991
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: raised your game, and you know, maybe I needed to

992
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 2: rewatch it and score it again to change that one round.

993
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: But let's not act like this wasn't a close, competitive

994
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: fight and at least the right guy won. That was

995
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: good to see.

996
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: Okay, So I have a few thoughts on this, BC

997
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: see what you think. Easier to argue the right guy won,

998
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: the right guy won, Tommy Fiury was better. I just don't.

999
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: Jake had his moments, certainly dropping him in the twelfth

1000
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: or twelfth what am I saying? Eight eighth, topping him

1001
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: in the eighth, which I thought was good. This is

1002
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: going to sound kind of crazy because Tommy was definitely better,

1003
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: not just with the majority of rounds, but just just

1004
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: start the timer. How much time one guy was better

1005
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: and the other one. Tommy was better for the majority

1006
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: of the time too. But what I mean to say

1007
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: is Jake was a little bit slicker, a little bit

1008
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: for example, jabbing to the body and then as Tommy

1009
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: walked into him, bending over like a dipping jab and

1010
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: then going high and then crashing into him. That stunted him.

1011
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: Several times. You could see Jake try and time his

1012
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: overhand right several times, and he was so close a

1013
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: couple times. He had on a few more tricks than Tommy.

1014
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: But here's what occurred to me about the mistake I

1015
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: think Jake Paul has made in his career. It didn't

1016
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: occur to me up until now, because let's put cards

1017
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: on the table. We both thought Jake Paul was gonna win.

1018
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: Didn't happen. We have to tell the audience that. But

1019
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: I will say the mistake that Jake Paul has made

1020
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: to me a little bit is that in getting former

1021
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: MMA fighters, that's one thing people focused on that, but

1022
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: they should focus more on the age because Tyron Woodley

1023
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: and Anderson Silva are not high output guys, and so

1024
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: a guy like Jake had time to work. He had

1025
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: time to move, he had time to set up, he

1026
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: had time to disengage, he had time to wrap up.

1027
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 1: Guys who are forty or in the case of Anderson Silva,

1028
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: forty seven, they're not going to push the pace on you. Well,

1029
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: Tommy Fury did. Tommy Fury actually just worked a lot,

1030
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: really got in Jake's face, and Jake's game kind of

1031
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: collapsed and imploded for long stretches of the fight because

1032
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: he was just flailing trying to find something he was

1033
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 1: too eager to lead into his offense rather than creating

1034
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: separation using movement and then setting everything up calmly and

1035
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: slowly again using those old opponents was a good way

1036
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: to work on your game, no doubt about it. He

1037
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: got better, but he didn't set him up for a

1038
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: young guy who's by the way, three years younger than him.

1039
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: Who whatever else you want to say about Fury's skills

1040
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: not being up to par with X or why fine,

1041
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't argue otherwise, but the pace that he put

1042
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: on him and the pressure he put on him really

1043
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: gave Jake a ton of problems. And I'll say this again, BC,

1044
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: go to the tapes that we did right here at

1045
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: Morning Combat. How many times did I tell you he

1046
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: likes to throw the overhand right and look straight down

1047
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: when he does. And you saw Fury get to those

1048
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: upper cuts later. And I want to say one more

1049
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: thing about Fury, aside from you know, having a good

1050
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: game plan and then making some reads about the things

1051
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: that Jake was showing him, Jake drops him in the

1052
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: eighth Now it could have been People are like, oh, well,

1053
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: he didn't really hurt him, he just knocked him off balance. Well, yeah,

1054
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: because Tommy's foot works a little bit clunky. He puts

1055
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: himself in positions that when you get hit, you don't

1056
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: have your balance. That's why you have to have a

1057
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: staggered stance and not a squared one. But I'll say this,

1058
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: he gets up off the canvas and took it to

1059
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: Jake Paul to finish the end of that round like

1060
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: he really was the one dude. It's funny, Jake is

1061
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: the bigger guy between them, and you would not know

1062
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: that based on the physicality that Tommy Fury brings to

1063
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: the fight.

1064
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that. So in this case, in terms

1065
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 2: of weight, Jake Paul came in at his lowest weight

1066
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: as a boxer up to this point of one eighty

1067
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: three point six. Fury cames in at the highest at

1068
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: one eighty four and some change, so less than a

1069
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 2: pound difference between them. But the upper body Tommy's body,

1070
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 2: you know, Jake made fun of it that he's must

1071
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: and then a skinny legs. It's not exactly that, but

1072
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: he's more top heavy than not. He used that muscle,

1073
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 2: that physicality, looked like a bigger fighter than Jake, even

1074
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 2: though he was the smaller fighter coming up. But most importantly, Luke,

1075
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 2: something we didn't stress on, the French reach advantage actually

1076
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: came into play in Furies factor with that jab. And

1077
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 2: even though I didn't think that was a good night

1078
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: overall for the extended commentary team and Twitter had a

1079
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 2: lot of fun with the viral moments and maybe we'll

1080
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: see one or two and have you seen this shit?

1081
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: Although I like a lot of guys on that broadcast.

1082
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: Staffs broadcast was atrocious. It was the broadcast that I like,

1083
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: but in general the broadcast I like a lot.

1084
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: Of guys on that team. But I will say that

1085
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: the one thing Sean Porter said that was most prescient

1086
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 2: in line of the analysis you just gave was not

1087
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: just the fact that he's fighting a younger fighter who's

1088
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: gonna have more gas over the eight rounds compared to

1089
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: Silva or Woodley, but somebody who's not standing in front

1090
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 2: of him. Sewan nailed that part. Somebody who was not

1091
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: just allowing Jake to close the distance and start to

1092
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 2: work with his feints and his punches. Tommy was getting

1093
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: out of the way repeatedly, and that was you look again.

1094
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: He hung on the fundamentals, and he exposed that even

1095
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 2: though Jake has made great gains and has better fundamentals

1096
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: than the level of competition he was facing before, which

1097
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 2: is older MMA fighters trying to make the adjustment, Tommy

1098
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: leaned on. Tommy did have a small amateur career and

1099
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: obviously has the help of his extended family in his corner. Dude,

1100
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: in those last couple of years, he's put his nose

1101
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: down in the gym and he did get just enough

1102
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: better to win this fight, and you gotta give him

1103
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 2: that credit. But Luke, I hate re establishing the boxing

1104
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 2: scoring system to people that don't fully understand it.

1105
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: Dude, hold on, let's take a step back. How badly

1106
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: did you get cooked on Twitter? That you've brought this

1107
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: up three times?

1108
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I got nailed and I got You know,

1109
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 2: it's not that it's that I don't have the skin

1110
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 2: for that, Luke. It's just sometimes you get angry when

1111
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 2: you know what you put out in the world wasn't

1112
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: too wrong.

1113
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: And no one on Twitter will ever reproduce your argument

1114
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: in good faith. They'll never do it. They'll take a

1115
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: version of it and twist it so that you're saying

1116
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 1: something you're not actually saying.

1117
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: I still get skewered by a certain level of the

1118
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 2: boxing population for a fight. Do you remember sumhere at

1119
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, that pay per view fight Keith Thurman and

1120
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: Manny Pachiow that overachieved there. Look it was a great fight,

1121
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 2: Walter wait title at stake. People remember, of course, Manny

1122
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 2: dropping him in the first round, Manny hurting Thurmanto the

1123
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: body late, and you go, oh, man, that's Manny's night altogether. Look,

1124
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: Manny was the better fighter on that night. No one's

1125
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: questioning that. The question comes down to the scoring. I

1126
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: had it seven to five for Thurman, and people still

1127
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: want to show up with torches at my door. I

1128
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: implore you to rewatch that fight I had at the

1129
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: same score. It was a split decision as the judge

1130
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: who had it for Thurman by one round. Look, Pakia's older,

1131
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 2: he doesn't fight for the full three minutes. What I'm

1132
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: basically trying to say is just because somebody had bigger moments.

1133
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: We see this in UFC all the time, people calling

1134
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: for the pride rules of scoring. Just because you had

1135
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 2: bigger moments in certain rounds doesn't mean you won the fight.

1136
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: In a ten round, you know, when you have a

1137
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 2: ten point must system, every round is its own fight.

1138
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: Jake claudeback enough with some power shot flurries at the

1139
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 2: end of the rounds to make some of these close. Luke,

1140
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: how did you ultimately have the score in real time?

1141
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: I kind of stopped scoring after the fifth. I think

1142
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: I had it five rounds to three for Tommy, so

1143
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: you cancel out the point deduction. There was the knockdown

1144
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: in the eighth and so I think that would make

1145
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,479
Speaker 1: it seventy five to seventy four Tommy, Right.

1146
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 2: That's my adjusted score. I had the one round difference

1147
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: the first time, and of course that Tommy was just better.

1148
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: I just hate that that means. And it's like I

1149
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: have to keep reiterating this. Just because the guy one

1150
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: guy did better in a close fight doesn't always mean

1151
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: on the scoring system that he won. And just because somebody,

1152
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: a judge, a journalist scores it for the other guy,

1153
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 2: it's a math problem. I'm not watching that fight and going, oh, yeah,

1154
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: Jake was better. It's a math problem. At the end

1155
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: of the day, watch the close rounds closely and make

1156
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 2: your own decision. Luke immediate rematch in the favor of

1157
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 2: Jake Paul. He was largely humble afterwards. He sent out

1158
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: its tweet this morning, which was meant to encourage his

1159
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: young fans that you know, judge me by my defeats.

1160
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 2: You'll see how much I come back, how much of

1161
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: a market, how much interest in your eyes, is a rematch?

1162
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: You know, Jake only had a one fight deal with ESPN,

1163
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: even though he does have his own rematch clause here.

1164
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 2: If he activates it like he says he was, he

1165
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: would and if ESPN jumps on it, one thing, you

1166
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 2: will say you said it earlier. It did Gangbusters in

1167
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: terms of traffic. Was that because it was on a

1168
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon and the football season's over. Maybe also it

1169
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 2: extended out to the casual crossover level of mainstream sports

1170
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: in ways that did surprise me. Is there a big

1171
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: you know, how big could a rematch be? I mean,

1172
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: if they go back to Saudi Arabia, they'll do it

1173
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: for the money. But what if you did this in

1174
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: a England soccer stadium? What I think, what I think,

1175
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 2: I'll see it up this way. What I think this

1176
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: fight showed me is that we're slow. We're pumping the

1177
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: brakes on, like Jake getting a WBC ranking and fighting

1178
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: a champion one day, Like I don't think that's ever

1179
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 2: going to happen, right, I think this keeps Jake in

1180
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: the celebrity bubble now against KSI, against Nadez, against you know,

1181
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 2: Tommy Feury, if he wants this rematch, What does that

1182
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: do heading into this rematch to Jake's marketability now that

1183
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 2: he has one defeat, Does that change things? Because to me,

1184
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: it tells, It tells everybody. Now he got as far

1185
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: as he could on his zone of trying to be

1186
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 2: a real boxer. It doesn't mean he can't come back

1187
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: and win the rematch, But I think this ends that conversation.

1188
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 2: We're never going to see, you know, Jake get to

1189
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: fourteen and one and suddenly be challenging a real cruiserweight

1190
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: champion in my opinion, Okay, I think he's going to

1191
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 2: go more in that MMA direction starting next year. So

1192
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: what's the want level in your eyes for this rematch

1193
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 2: and how does this lost effect to Jake moving forward?

1194
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: So I said this at the top of the show.

1195
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: I really want to reiterate it because there's probably are

1196
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: people in our audience being like, why are you guys

1197
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: talking about this fight? And the reality is like, in

1198
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: terms of relevant boxing, this ain't it, you know, in

1199
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 1: terms of the when we say relevant, we mean guys

1200
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: at the top of the don't top fifteen of each

1201
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: division or guys fighting for titles or contendership position. It

1202
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: represents none of that. And so we understand that. I

1203
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: know our audience for the most part certainly understands that,

1204
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: but I want to repeat it to you, Like our

1205
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: bosses at CBS came back to us and we're like,

1206
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: this blew the doors off of I mean anything since

1207
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and even before that, not as big

1208
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: as a super Bowl, but certainly like it's a high

1209
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: watermark event for traffic in sports. And so you know,

1210
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: I've said this before, like, what is the biggest audience

1211
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: in combat sports. It's not hardcorees, it's casuals. That's the

1212
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: first thing I want to say. And the casuals seem

1213
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: very very interested. Second, if you are Jake Paul, you

1214
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: got the best scenario in a loss, which is to

1215
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: say it was a split decision, which means you can

1216
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: say it's disputed whether or not that's the facts. You

1217
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: can say it as a marketing angle. And two, he

1218
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: knocked Fury down, right, he knocked Fury down, and he

1219
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: got one judge to say he won. You can definitely

1220
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: use that to market a rematch, especially given what I

1221
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: already just mentioned that the audience among casuals, not among hardcores,

1222
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: not among the rock rib fight fans, but among the casuals,

1223
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: which is a gigantic audience. The interest is high. There's

1224
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: no not a doubt in my mind. They're gonna make

1225
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: the rematch. How soon a little harder to tell. Probably

1226
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: gonna be in England, probably gonna be on pay per view,

1227
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 1: Probably gonna make a lot of money.

1228
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 2: Okay, but what about the idea that this ceiling, this

1229
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 2: puts a ceiling on Jake and the legitimate side of boxing.

1230
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: Do you agree with Oh, unless he's able to show

1231
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: a dramatic leap quickly, which is possible. Right, He had

1232
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: a big folks sleep on this, because again we're not

1233
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: talking about we're gonna the next fight we're gonna talk

1234
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: about is subri Almatis and Haramias Ponce. These guys are

1235
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: vastly better than what we're talking about here, I understand. So,

1236
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 1: you know, is he in that conversation right now? I think,

1237
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: right now he is firmly where you say he is

1238
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: KSI's everything else along that ring of celebrity fighters. He's

1239
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: certainly firmly entrenched there. I do still think he has

1240
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: the possibility to lift himself a little bit out of

1241
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: that space, and I wouldn't close the door on it completely,

1242
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 1: but certainly for the foreseeable future, these are his peers.

1243
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: This is who he should be fighting, This is who

1244
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: he will be fighting. It makes the most sense for

1245
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: name value, money and competition's sake. This is Blu de

1246
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: Bella was right, He's like, you know, is it a

1247
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: good fight, bad fight. You can decide. It was a

1248
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: fair fight. It was a fair fight, you know, And

1249
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: I think that's a good way of looking at it.

1250
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 2: A guy his own size, a guy with relatively the

1251
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: same amount of experience, and he lost a close one.

1252
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: But like we talked about, he was the one who

1253
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: landed the knockdown. There is a rematch clause if you

1254
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 2: do it, you understand. But look at twenty three, even

1255
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 2: though Tommy Fury exceeded, are almost pitifully low expectations coming

1256
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 2: in which I look, I give him a lot of respect.

1257
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 2: You know, at this point, he probably you know, he

1258
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: should have signed that contract. He should have doubled down

1259
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: and bet on himself. As as dangerous of a move

1260
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: as that is, that would have been. I don't want

1261
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:02,439
Speaker 2: to rain on his parade here. I still didn't see

1262
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 2: enough to believe, even at twenty three that that Tommy

1263
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: Fury can do much on the pro side.

1264
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, all right, but see let's round out

1265
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: the top.

1266
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: Well, no, do you agree? I mean, I'm saying this

1267
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: to get your opinion, not for you to speed me

1268
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: out of here, Luke.

1269
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I largely agree. I largely agree. I willst

1270
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: ask let me let me pitch one back to you,

1271
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: since I'd be wrong for not going to this direction

1272
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: at least once. So if okay, imagine I snapped my

1273
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: fingers and as soon as I do, you are the

1274
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: manager of Nate Diaz, what do you tell him should

1275
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: be his next move?

1276
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 2: It's interesting if Jake, look, if they run this back, then.

1277
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: Let me add one more because we just saw Floyd

1278
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: do the Aaron Chalmers thing in London. And when I

1279
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Speaker 1: say no one was there, I mean no one was there.

1280
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying DS couldn't get a big check to

1281
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: fight Floyd in rise In that may still be on

1282
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: the same but they're like, oh, I'll just fight Floyd.

1283
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: I guess of Floyd versus a Daz, no matter what

1284
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: would be bigger than Floyd versus Aaron Chalmers. But I'm

1285
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,479
Speaker 1: just pointing out the idea that Floyd is automatic money

1286
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: in terms of well, I guess, depending on the game.

1287
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: It's a weird thing with Floyd right now.

1288
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: Floyd's Floyd found his own ceiling this weekend when he

1289
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: had ninety five percent of tickets on sold that at

1290
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: what two arena was it or one of the two

1291
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 2: up up until the final days, and then they essentially

1292
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 2: closed off most of the arena and darkened the entire crowd.

1293
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 2: I mean, there was handfuls of people there, but I

1294
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:36,959
Speaker 2: think Nate Diaz is boxing big Payday is still tied

1295
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: into Jake Paul. So that's why I led with that.

1296
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: Here's what I mean by this, if they do it,

1297
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: Jake Paul, Tommy Fiery. The biggest success for the promotion,

1298
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,919
Speaker 2: for the business side of this was that this fight

1299
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: was competitive, it was relatively entertaining, and that there's some

1300
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 2: level of debate coming out of it in a want

1301
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: for a rematch because maybe because it was on Sunday afternoon.

1302
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: I can't echo that again. You had a lot of

1303
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 2: people that don't normally watch box, that have a lot

1304
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 2: of influence on Twitter that were suddenly into this and

1305
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 2: scoring it and tweeting out their opinion and you know,

1306
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 2: clowning clowning radio raheem. I mean, there's a lot of

1307
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: talk about this fight. Let's say you do a second one.

1308
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 2: Let's say you get that English aggressive soccer fan field going,

1309
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 2: and let's say Jake wins, right, Let's give him the credit.

1310
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 2: Let's say he wins. He was pretty close in this

1311
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: the first time around. I think it's still viable for Nate.

1312
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 2: I think that closes the gap what we saw Anderson Silva,

1313
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: what we saw Jake do against Anderson. It was a

1314
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 2: good win for him, but I think it scared us

1315
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 2: into the idea that if Jake wants to stay in

1316
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: this model of fighting big money fights against XMMA stars,

1317
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 2: unless he's fighting guys his size, man, he may be

1318
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: able to dominate.

1319
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 5: This.

1320
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 2: Tommy Fury fight closed that argument. But imagine if they

1321
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 2: have another close fight in a rematch and Jake wins it,

1322
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 2: could you do Jake versus Nate for good money and interest?

1323
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 2: I think you could. Look, I still think you could.

1324
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: I think that's probably about right. I'm still though, if

1325
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: you're I think, you know, talking to people close to

1326
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: Diaz in that camp, I get the sense that he

1327
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: kind of felt like the Paul fight might happen this year.

1328
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: Still might. But now I'm putting that off till end

1329
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: of the year. Because here's the thing. Right, if they

1330
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: do the rematch, let's say, what is it now, March

1331
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: almost If they do the rematch sometime around early summer,

1332
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: let's say summer, and Paul wins, right, they might just

1333
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: do the trilogy at that point. Again, especially dude, if

1334
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: they do a rematch and it's big and successful and

1335
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: Jake wins, and let's say, for whatever reason it was

1336
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: like this one where it's controversy and you can use

1337
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: that for a third fight, They're just gonna make a

1338
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: third fight. Das could be on the outside looking in

1339
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: for the whole year, not getting the opponent that he

1340
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: wants or I think expected, and that changes things a

1341
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: little bit for him.

1342
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean we also have to question

1343
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 2: because when you have the invincibility that an unbeaten fighter has,

1344
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 2: which Jake had heading into this fight, it does start

1345
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 2: to change your level of belief of what is possible.

1346
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 2: Like That's why I think Jake was invited the idea

1347
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: of a ranking and potentially of inevitably a real title

1348
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: shot down the line this. I thought his reaction to

1349
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 2: the defeat was certainly strong. You know, he was largely humble,

1350
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 2: and now he's talking about wanting to do it again.

1351
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 2: But the one thing, Luke, that he has lacked up

1352
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 2: to this point from an entertainment standpoint, There's been a

1353
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 2: couple of close fights in his journey and certainly especially

1354
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 2: the build up to the first Woodley one. He's done

1355
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 2: a great job talking people into this. He hasn't had

1356
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: that like back and forth slugfest yet. Could you imagine

1357
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 2: if this rematch is one of those where both fighters

1358
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 2: go down and it's this dramatic fun fight and he

1359
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: wins it. I think that's the greatest thing. That could

1360
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 2: be a shot in the arm to his future and

1361
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 2: then bring in the idea of anate fight being super

1362
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 2: viable again. But that was the bit. If there's anything

1363
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: to criticize about this fight that we just saw yesterday

1364
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: was that it wasn't fought at a high level. And

1365
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: even though it was competitive and borderline dramatic with the

1366
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 2: late knockdown, it was a jousting jab fest, as you

1367
01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 2: would say.

1368
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: And so like, they just don't have that many tools.

1369
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: They don't have that many tools.

1370
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 2: So you know, I want, I'm gonna I wonder moving

1371
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 2: forward because you can't.

1372
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: You can't.

1373
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 2: You can't discount what it does to your invincibility when

1374
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 2: you lose. Will this will this force Jake to change

1375
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 2: his business structure moving forward and model and will it

1376
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 2: speed up his move to MMA to try it? Luke

1377
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 2: because if he gets into one of those wars and

1378
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: wins it, it may be the thing that that gives

1379
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 2: him his highest reach of commercial you know gain. But

1380
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 2: if he goes through that and wins or loses but

1381
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 2: get you know, it takes a beating in the process.

1382
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 2: It may also force him to leave the sport. Why

1383
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 2: Because at some point, Luke, when you're masquerading as a

1384
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 2: boxer to try to become a real one, the realities

1385
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 2: of boxing show up. To Jake's credit. Outside of getting

1386
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: knocked into the ropes by Woodley in the first fight,

1387
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 2: he hasn't been you know, viciously cut or been viciously

1388
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 2: hurt where you start to question, man, why am I

1389
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 2: doing this? I do wonder if that ends up happening, Luke,

1390
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 2: will that lead him, you know, deeper into wanting this

1391
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 2: sport or make him go, Hey, I got more waste

1392
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 2: to make money. I don't necessarily need this.

1393
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, b See, Let's end with the

1394
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: card where we called the prelims together in the swamps

1395
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: of Jersey City over the weekend for the this was

1396
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: Josh Taylor's old title, The Naked one hundred and forty

1397
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: pounds IBF World title was contested between Subriel Mattias and

1398
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: Haramius Ponce and BC, I felt like I'll to our

1399
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: own horn here a little bit. I felt like we

1400
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: nailed the preview on this one, right, what do we say,

1401
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: vicious body punching, high volume from both, but vicious body

1402
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: punching from Ponce. But Mattias, that left hook is just

1403
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: dynamite and what set up the finish in the fifth

1404
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: round by Mattias, who, by the way, just looked he

1405
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: absorbed in an insane burst of offense for the first

1406
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: three rounds and then turned the table. But it was

1407
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: that left hook that set Ponce down. BC. How does

1408
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,479
Speaker 1: Mattias stack up with the rest of the one hundred

1409
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: and forty pound on titans.

1410
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 2: He's a very very interesting wild card because I thought

1411
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 2: you and I did a good job really setting the

1412
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 2: backstory stage. Mattias could not have had to go through

1413
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 2: more to get to this point on the personal and

1414
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 2: professional journey. The jail time, he was stabbed, the drug conviction,

1415
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 2: all that coming out. Then he's in a fight that

1416
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 2: he wins against Maxim Dadaschev, but there's a death in

1417
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 2: the ring and all that deals with it. Yet he

1418
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 2: got all the way to this point, avenging his only

1419
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 2: loss by knockout by the way last fight, and now

1420
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 2: he gets into a vacant title fight and wins it

1421
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 2: his way. What is his way? Putting on an incredible

1422
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 2: amount of pressure and power punching, but not in a

1423
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: recklessly destructive way. When what that does is he forces

1424
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 2: you to fight his fight at close distance. So suddenly, Luke,

1425
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 2: he's not only a good story winning the title, turning

1426
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 2: his life for on and all that, but you match

1427
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 2: him up against any big name at one hundred and

1428
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 2: forty pounds, and why is there a reason to believe

1429
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: that this division is so fun? Because all those fun

1430
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: big names at lightweight are eventually going to move up

1431
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 2: on their way to welterweight, and some already have. You're

1432
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 2: gonna see a lot of big names flash through this

1433
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 2: division in the next year or two. And Mattias is

1434
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: in a fight against everyone because he hits hard, he's aggressive,

1435
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 2: and like I mentioned, he gets in your face with

1436
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 2: hard combination punching, body punching. And in this case, he

1437
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 2: had a willing dance partner in Harremias Ponce. Only Ponce

1438
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 2: couldn't get through the fifth round. He was dropped hard

1439
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 2: in the fifth. His corner stopped it between rounds. He

1440
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 2: said afterwards, I'm I'm happy at the end of the

1441
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 2: day to have a fight. Maybe stop too early and

1442
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 2: too late. He knows the damage that was put on him.

1443
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 2: But every pro fighter that was watching this fight ultimately

1444
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 2: echoed the same tweet. Could you imagine Mattias against any

1445
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 2: other big one forty name. He has a potential problem

1446
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: because he is willing to risk it all, But Luke,

1447
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 2: I think he does it just enough where it's not

1448
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: too reckless, it's smart and unless you have the skill

1449
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 2: and quickness to avoid that barrage coming at you and

1450
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: try to expose him, you're inevitably gonna have to stand

1451
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 2: and fight with him. And that's his goal and that's

1452
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 2: his plan. This is a good boon for those who

1453
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 2: follow PBC Boxing and Showtime closely and know the big

1454
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 2: names in and around this division. There's gonna be some

1455
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 2: fun title fights made in the near future, and I

1456
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 2: don't know if Subriel can hold on to the title

1457
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: for a long time, But like Michael Chandler, Luke, it's

1458
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 2: gonna be a good time and it's gonna be fun

1459
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 2: to watch.

1460
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right. I don't know if he's gonna

1461
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: be champion for a long time, but however long he's

1462
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: champion or in big fights, they're gonna be fun. Folks.

1463
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: I really really, If you don't have showtime, I don't

1464
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: know what you're doing. But if you've got it, I

1465
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: have YouTube TV, and I have the showtime a subscription

1466
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: through my YouTube TV. So I went back and I

1467
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: watched the fight again this morning, and I was like, dude,

1468
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: Mattias is so fun. And also I gotta give credit

1469
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: to Ponce Ponce from the that's one of the best

1470
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: first rounds for an American debut you'll ever see from

1471
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: a boxer. Would you agree with that? BC the first

1472
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: time in the United States, first round you're fighting for

1473
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: a world title, and he absolutely hammered the guts of Mattias.

1474
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: Mattias clearly lost that round and just had to not

1475
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: hang on. But a bit of a storm there right.

1476
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 2: Well, you know you love that ID too it when

1477
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 2: we hype up, Oh guys, this is gonna be a

1478
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 2: great fight. Two guys that want it with exciting styles.

1479
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: Look at their power punch numbers. You hope, you hope

1480
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 2: it's going to be that type of fight. How about

1481
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 2: the mindset of punts. I to say, American debut, not

1482
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 2: too many people know me, big opportunity. Let me come

1483
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 2: out and just let it go and pull this guy

1484
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 2: into the deep waters.

1485
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 3: Luke.

1486
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 2: It ended up sinking him, as we found out, But

1487
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 2: like you mentioned, could not ask for better intention for

1488
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 2: somebody who's looking to make their name known, and he

1489
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 2: did best to go out there and do that. I

1490
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 2: don't think he suffers huge from his first defeat here.

1491
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 2: This is a close up on American television. He's willing

1492
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 2: and able to go in there and make fun fights.

1493
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be in a few of

1494
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 2: them moving forward.

1495
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I said this on the prelim broadcast about Mattias.

1496
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: He's from Puerto Rico, which, by the way, like Puerto

1497
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 1: Rico just pumping out talent and boxing like it's going

1498
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: out of style. They always have been, probably always will be.

1499
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: But he is currently living in Mexico and he's training

1500
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: there anyway, and he's been there for nine months and

1501
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,560
Speaker 1: he's been away from his three daughters. And I was

1502
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: just like, dude, this guy has had a lot of

1503
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: moments in his life where he's been candidly a bit

1504
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:07,759
Speaker 1: of a fuck up and he looks to have fixed

1505
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: them and now he's really buckling down. But if you're

1506
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: going to be away from your family for that long,

1507
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,560
Speaker 1: the only acceptable outcome is victory. That is it. That

1508
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: is the only acceptable outcome. And he had to weather

1509
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: a bit of an early storm from ponse who want

1510
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: to make a show. But Mattias, folks, I really really

1511
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: really want to encourage you to watch this fight for

1512
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: a very particular reason. The inside fighting was fun. But

1513
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: Mattias has this ability and we talked about it in

1514
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 1: the pre fight show. It doesn't matter if he's fully

1515
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 1: at jab distance or if the opponent is here. He

1516
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 1: now only throws tons of punches in combination, which is great,

1517
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: but he has the ability to hit short angles like this,

1518
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 1: like this, like with the guy's right up in front

1519
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:47,560
Speaker 1: of him, to do it quickly, accurately, and very powerfully,

1520
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: so the opponent thinks they're in these safe kind of

1521
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: like really close up distances where you can get a

1522
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: short shot through, but there's not a whole lot with it.

1523
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 1: But with Mattias, there's a ton behind it, and it

1524
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 1: rattles guys and he uses the real subtle movements and

1525
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: switching in timing and switching in shoulders and switching in

1526
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 1: pace and switching in rhythm to then land. Ultimately, the

1527
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 1: big left hook is his big weapon. He landed it

1528
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: over and over again when he wanted to. He is

1529
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: so fun to watch. Phone booth fighting is fun no

1530
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:19,520
Speaker 1: matter what, but a phone booth fight with two skilled operators,

1531
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: one of which can do it in these very tight

1532
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 1: short angles, is a thing to behold. You just don't

1533
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: see stuff like that. For example, if you're an MMA fan,

1534
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: watching this MMA just doesn't offer you opportunities to get

1535
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you get short shots all the time,

1536
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 1: but not in this particular kind of way right where

1537
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 1: you're having to generate hardcore power with just a little

1538
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: bit of movement, a little bit of separation, and to

1539
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: do that through combination with speed and accuracy. Very very

1540
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: rare to see something like that. Mattias has it in spades.

1541
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 3: Now.

1542
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a whole lot of the rest of

1543
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: the game all that great in my judgment, but that

1544
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: particular part of it, Wow, man, it's a sight to behold.

1545
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 2: Real quick on this division at one fort at the moment,

1546
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 2: Suprial Matias. Now you're WBC champion. We just Progray a

1547
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 2: emotional network free agent, or maybe at least network free agent.

1548
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 2: Your w No, maybe he's the he's got another belt, Luke,

1549
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 2: I forgot which letter combination is. Josh Taylor still has

1550
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 2: a world title and he's trying to get Tayo Fema Lopez.

1551
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 2: It'z on the other side of the street. But under

1552
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 2: the extended showtime PBC banner, there's that rumored fight, Luke,

1553
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 2: for I think it is April eighth, when Alberto Poyo,

1554
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 2: who's who recently captured one of the titles that Josh

1555
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 2: Taylor was forced to give up taking on Roly Romero.

1556
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 2: So you can start to do the math. We got

1557
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 2: Progray out here, we got Poyo versus Romero. Now we

1558
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 2: got subrial Matias. We have no shortage of big names,

1559
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 2: you know, considering Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia are fighting

1560
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 2: in a catchway and both are going to be probably

1561
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 2: moving up to one forty soon, so it's gonna get

1562
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 2: fun at one forty here in the near future.

1563
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 1: All right, that's it for our top five BC, and

1564
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 1: now it is time for the donks to ask us questions.

1565
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 1: We put out posts on social media every Sunday. You

1566
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 1: guys fill it up, and then the producers pick questions

1567
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: from it. It's time for dms from.

1568
01:11:59,040 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 3: The old dag.

1569
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, he hawed, He hawed that shit.

1570
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: All right, BC. First up from at strong Illy, Well,

1571
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: I should say strong underscore Illy Underscore sixty three to one.

1572
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: Worst name ever? Can you guys talk about John Lineker?

1573
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: Yes from one and his stupidity? He says, I had

1574
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,520
Speaker 1: him winning that fight and he decided.

1575
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 3: To do what he did.

1576
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 1: BC. His corner threw it through it. I'm sorry they

1577
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 1: called it after the fourth uh and he didn't actually

1578
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: end up going back out for the last round. I

1579
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: actually feel like that was very much the right call.

1580
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: His manager, Alexis Davis, took to Twitter the next day

1581
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: and said both of his eyes were completely shut, he

1582
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: couldn't see, his power had diminished. Even if he was

1583
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: up on the scorecards, he was in a bad, bad way.

1584
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: I actually commend his corner agree for calling it there. Yep.

1585
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 2: What do we learn from the quicksilver method? In Karate

1586
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 2: Kid Part three? Luc a man can't see, he can't fight,

1587
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 2: But even more serious, when you've got that level of damage,

1588
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 2: between two sluggers in a rematch with a lot of intensity,

1589
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 2: her going after it. It is good to see in

1590
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 2: that regard. Surprising obviously when you're talking about somebody like Lineker,

1591
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 2: who we just look at as a blood and guts

1592
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 2: warrior looking to come in there and knock you out

1593
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 2: and do nothing else. But uh, I like to see

1594
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 2: the human spirit come through when it's necessary to prevent

1595
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 2: the inevitable extreme damage that the sport that these sports offer, Luke,

1596
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: And that's a that's a nice little breakthrough there.

1597
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1598
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 1: Also, Fabricio Androge is accurate, powerful, quick, you know, and

1599
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: he was drilling Lineker at the end of that round four.

1600
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: I I just feel like I understand what folks are saying. Wow,

1601
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 1: you're this close to, you know, potentially victory at what cost?

1602
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: You know, at what cost?

1603
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 2: Did you watch the whole card, Luke? I piecemealed it.

1604
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: I didn't get to w I did not watch the

1605
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: whole card. I watched that one, and I watched the

1606
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: Taiwan Shi fight, but that was it. Okay uh okay

1607
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: at Paradox, Underscore in Underscore, Corpus maybe Corpus Christy, I'll

1608
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 1: leave your corpse Crispy down in Corpus Christy as old

1609
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: self titled once said, did you see Dana's quote who

1610
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: gives a shit? Content regarding Connor calls it some fighter

1611
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: replacements for the ultimate fighter thoughts? Yes, Dana famously, very

1612
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 1: very empathetic to people suffering. I've noticed, well your thoughts.

1613
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 2: So the argument is the extension of what we when

1614
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 2: we ran that Gilbert Burns tweet where there were fighters

1615
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 2: that were supposedly invited to Tough, showed up and then

1616
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,799
Speaker 2: found out that they weren't going to be contestants because

1617
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 2: Connor had his own people. Dana's response was, do you

1618
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 2: know how hard it is to get these superstars to,

1619
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 2: you know, agree to be on Tough. We've got to

1620
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 2: give them some leeway. So it comes across very aggressive

1621
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 2: Luke in the same weekend, and we'll get into that shortly.

1622
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 2: And have you seen this shit about Dana's new challenge

1623
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 2: to the media. But yeah, I mean it's it's I

1624
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 2: get it. I get both sides. Actually I'm not. I'm

1625
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 2: not dropping bombs on Dane. I do get both sides

1626
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: in this instance. It'd be nice if you could sort

1627
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 2: all that shit out before people fly somewhere thinking they're

1628
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 2: going to get the breakthrough opportunity of their career. Yeah,

1629
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 2: that's pretty shitty. But uh, Luca, can I use this

1630
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 2: opportunity to bring up the other part of Dana that

1631
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 2: I wanted to mention.

1632
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:03,560
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna do that and have you

1633
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 1: seen the show?

1634
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's the other other part. There's this other

1635
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,799
Speaker 2: other part of Dana. Did you see that? Very quietly,

1636
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 2: Dana in Power Slap announced that their their end of

1637
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 2: the season card will not be a pay per view

1638
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 2: like originally thought, instead will be airing free to err

1639
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 2: on what's that? Uh, what's that?

1640
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 3: Right?

1641
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 2: Angle YouTube equivalent?

1642
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 3: Oh?

1643
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 2: Rumble, Rumble young man, Rumble the Power Slap pay per

1644
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 2: view that will close this year. That, by the way,

1645
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 2: forces the Peter Yn versus San Jagan fights to the

1646
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 2: Virgin Hotel rather than the Apex the same night is

1647
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 2: going to be live on Rumble Baby.

1648
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Luke, Hey, if you're interested in you know,

1649
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: Bohemian Grove and other conspiracy theories and want to catch

1650
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: a little slapping along the way, Rumble is the place

1651
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 1: for you.

1652
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 2: Luke. We have a visitor.

1653
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 1: You have a visitor.

1654
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody's home. So I'm doing the show with the

1655
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 2: door open, Luke. Reggie Jackson's back, dudey, Reggie, Hey, Reggie,

1656
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 2: Reggie gets very nervous.

1657
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: Reggie's not happy, all right.

1658
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wants just me, Luke. He doesn't want you

1659
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 2: here of the cameras. He just wants to like probably

1660
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 2: bite me and stuff. But he's a you know, for

1661
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 2: weird cats, Luke, he's probably the coolest weird cat of

1662
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 2: all time.

1663
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, you don't put collars on your animals,

1664
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:21,520
Speaker 1: and that's a little bit disconcerting.

1665
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 2: I only have collars and the dogs, not the cats.

1666
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 2: You know, that's his natural skin inflection there in fur

1667
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 2: and color. You know, look at this guy.

1668
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: He's the best, right, Yeah, Reggie smacks your stupid ass face.

1669
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 2: He's more of a bier, Luke than anything.

1670
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 1: Let's see your cat's butthole, show it to the.

1671
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got enough. We show enough buttholes

1672
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 2: on this show, Luke. Okay, we don't need to go, dude.

1673
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 1: We gotta put Reggie Jackson on only fans and just

1674
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: show pictures of one hundred bucks a sub.

1675
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 2: You think he would make more than an average UFC

1676
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 2: fighter If that was the deal, Luke.

1677
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: Probably he might, dude, he'd be competitive. Oh, Reggie's the best.

1678
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 2: He's he Do you mind if he's if he joins

1679
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 2: us for the rest of the show, Luke.

1680
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 3: Is not at all.

1681
01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 1: I like Reggie. Okay, good, Reggie is the man. Okay, ABC.

1682
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: So we go now to at Cole Underscore Brown eight

1683
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,560
Speaker 1: five eight. What did you think of MVP making his

1684
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,560
Speaker 1: commentary debut on the Bell Tour prelimbs? Actually did not

1685
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: hear it.

1686
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 2: Ju I didn't hear that at all. I was watching

1687
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 2: those briefly with the soundown. I didn't hear that at all.

1688
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: No, I missed that.

1689
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 3: We did now.

1690
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: In fairness, we did a sit down with MVP when

1691
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,560
Speaker 1: we were in London and we greatly enjoyed it. We

1692
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: found him to be very smart and thoughtful and have

1693
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 1: a very interesting things to say. He likes to hear

1694
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: his commentary.

1695
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 2: Did you know I just found out from our great producer,

1696
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 2: Mikey Mormile that our Michael Venim Page Room Service Diaries

1697
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 2: episode comes out tomorrow, Luke, are you kidding?

1698
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm reading that now for the first time as well.

1699
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: That is very good because I think his fight is

1700
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: coming up on what the tenth.

1701
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what a stretch for YouTube dot com

1702
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 2: slash Morning Combat. For bonus content, Luke, we got a

1703
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 2: Valentina Schefchenko interview that's out right now with your boy

1704
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 2: BC set in the stage for this Saturday's title defense

1705
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 2: and coming hard in the direction of Aaron Blanchfield to

1706
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:01,839
Speaker 2: check that out. Luke, You've got some interesting grappling interviews

1707
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 2: out there, right.

1708
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta. I still haven't put it out yet,

1709
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: but we have the interview with mo Jasum from ADCC

1710
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: and I asked him straight up about why you guys

1711
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 1: don't drug test at all? And uh, it's an interesting answer.

1712
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: It's an interesting answer. We've got a game on.

1713
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got great content. Nobody makes great content like us.

1714
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 2: I mean, look at this feline content.

1715
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 1: Whatever you need right all right? At Vin MINITTI asks, Hey,

1716
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: what the fuck happened to Crone Bracy assuming he's done

1717
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: any other prospects that you can think of who fell

1718
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 1: off due to inactivity, not injury or not losing. Well,

1719
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: he did lose to Cub Swanson.

1720
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 2: He fought the balls off that fight. He tried to

1721
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 2: tried to have a stand up game, and I was

1722
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 2: impressed by his.

1723
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 1: Meaning to ask some folks I know in Daz this

1724
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:46,600
Speaker 1: camp about it. I just keep forgetting to do it.

1725
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: But I don't know what happened. I guess he's not

1726
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 1: interested in competing. What do you think?

1727
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 2: Who do you think would win an MMA match right now?

1728
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 2: Dylan Danis versus Chrome Gracie.

1729
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 1: Kron, Like, why would Crone lose?

1730
01:18:59,760 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 3: That?

1731
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 1: Crone's better at jiu jitsu by a million miles than

1732
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: Dylan Crone. Crone is a legit world champion, I think

1733
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,719
Speaker 1: in and outside of the g All right, let's.

1734
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 2: Even the matchup a little bit. Gracie with Crohn's disease

1735
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 2: versus Dylan Danis.

1736
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: Now, Cron is much smaller. I think Crone's about one

1737
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: forty five. I think Dylan's closer to one seventy ish.

1738
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 1: Who the hell knows what he is these days? But

1739
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: so there is that. But in terms of like skill

1740
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: for skill, cron is way better. All right. Lastly, but

1741
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: not leastly at Kyle Hank Levy sounds like a serial

1742
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: killer BC, which eighties NBA player would have been the

1743
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:42,719
Speaker 1: best combat sports athlete eighties NBA player?

1744
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 2: All right, do you remember that stretch in the mid

1745
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 2: eighties when the Washington Bullets became a legitimate Eastern Conference

1746
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 2: power and they had.

1747
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: Nineteen seventy eight World champions fuck face.

1748
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn right, Baltimore Bolls. They had a legitimate center

1749
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 2: in Jeff Rulin, but they had Rick Mhorn at power

1750
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:01,560
Speaker 2: forward Luke and Mahorne was a dude, and I you

1751
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 2: know Greg, I mean, I loved when he joined the

1752
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 2: Sixers as a free agent.

1753
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson's a beast and uh and.

1754
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 2: Uh him and Barkley had that no layup rule where

1755
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 2: they basically, if you drove the lane, they'd put you

1756
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 2: in the front row. And then David Stern had to

1757
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 2: jump in because the Sixers were about to play Jordan

1758
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 2: in the playoffs and they had to cancel that. Give

1759
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 2: me Rick Mhorne at heavyweight, Luke at six foot ten

1760
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 2: jacked angry and mean, right.

1761
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 1: Come on, Rick Mhorn's a good one. How was the answer?

1762
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: I guess is Lambier more nineties?

1763
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 2: Lambier's prime eighties. He made the All Star team of

1764
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 2: the league in rebounding one year. Yeah, prime eties, So I.

1765
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: Mean Lambier Lamber is probably a good fit, right, I mean.

1766
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he For as much as he was willing

1767
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 2: to be dirty and get into fights, he also took

1768
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 2: a lot of punches too. I mean, remember when Robert

1769
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 2: Parrish in the eighty seven Conference finals gave him that

1770
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 2: three piece and didn't even get thrown out of the game.

1771
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 1: Dude, look at Reggie, do you Reggie's I think Reggie

1772
01:20:58,960 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: loves you, bro.

1773
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm his person. He chose me to be

1774
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 2: his person, Luke. He doesn't like anybody else in this

1775
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 2: house but me.

1776
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, Reggie is not fighting to get out.

1777
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: He's rubbing chins with you.

1778
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what he's actually doing. He wants

1779
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 2: to get so. I have these these soundproof ceiling foam

1780
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 2: things all over. His goal is to pull them down.

1781
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 2: So he climbs up on top of my record thing

1782
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 2: and hangs from the ceiling Luke by one nail and

1783
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 2: tries to yank the things down. He's relentless about it.

1784
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 2: See the thing about Reggie Jackson. He's real cute and stuff, Luke,

1785
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,560
Speaker 2: but he don't give a fuck. It's his way or

1786
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 2: no way. He does not. He's a domestic terry. He's

1787
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,600
Speaker 2: kind of like how you you know, you call me

1788
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,799
Speaker 2: Osama Bin Campbell on this show because I'll I'll always

1789
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 2: turn against you and take the fan side. Luke. He's

1790
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 2: like that on the regular. In our house. He don't care.

1791
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 2: He don't care. If another animal is sleeping, He'll run

1792
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 2: right over and bite them in the face and wake

1793
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 2: them up to take their their bed.

1794
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 3: Luke.

1795
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:51,839
Speaker 2: He doesn't care for Dark.

1796
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,679
Speaker 1: Or Old Moco. Rest in peace, Old Mocho and El Cello.

1797
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: He did two things when we had him. One, I

1798
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 1: couldn't give my wife flowers because he would eat them flowers,

1799
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 1: oh yeah. And then two, I couldn't leave mail out

1800
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 1: on the kitchen table. He would shred it.

1801
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Mocho, don't play, dude, No.

1802
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 1: He Didn'tcho was the man.

1803
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 3: All right?

1804
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 1: That is it for all of that. It is time

1805
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 1: for BPS, all.

1806
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 2: Right, Red, you ready for this? Let's do this, Luke.

1807
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 2: I scoured the globe yesterday for the highs and lows,

1808
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 2: the good, the bad, the ugly, the in between, from

1809
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 2: the worlds of combat sports and usually beyond this is.

1810
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 3: Have you seen this shit?

1811
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 1: Let's do it?

1812
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 2: Reg all right?

1813
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 3: You ready?

1814
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 2: Oh God, oh god?

1815
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 4: Luke?

1816
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 6: UFC Vegas was Tatiana Suarez has come back night listen

1817
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 6: to this agro emotional victory yell after getting the submission

1818
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 6: in the second round against Dala.

1819
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 7: Rosa Jays, Tatia Sjarez back in a big way, second

1820
01:22:55,479 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 7: round submission, still undefeated, and look out for Tatiana Suarez.

1821
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, look, how is right?

1822
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 3: I mean she took a gambol, took a big chance.

1823
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 2: Going for that guillotine, giving up talk position, but it paid.

1824
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 2: Look say what you will and you did earlier. She's big,

1825
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 2: strong and intense in any way class and that was

1826
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 2: a lot of four year frustration. She just screamed out

1827
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 2: showing it.

1828
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see more. I just want to see more.

1829
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: That's all all right, quickly.

1830
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier how impressed I was at her determination.

1831
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 2: Here's her post fight interview talking about the hard work

1832
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 2: it took to get here.

1833
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 5: I think they should give me a really good opponent,

1834
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 5: you know, a good opponent show, and then you know,

1835
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 5: I'll earn it.

1836
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 2: You know, I don't.

1837
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 8: I've never.

1838
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 5: Been given anything in my life.

1839
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 4: I've always earned it.

1840
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 5: And I don't mind doing that because I think you know,

1841
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 5: that builds character, you know, and you got to work

1842
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 5: for the things that you get in your life. And

1843
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 5: I don't mind doing that because that's how my mom

1844
01:23:58,640 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 5: raised me and my grandma raised me.

1845
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 2: Look, you know that saying hard work beats talent, you

1846
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 2: know they, I guess they say when talent doesn't work hard.

1847
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 2: But there's times when hard work, even when talent is

1848
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 2: working hard, that hard work and determination just straight up

1849
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 2: laps talent. And dude, she's talented, but she's a you

1850
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 2: can tell from that response. Bring on the hell she's

1851
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 2: gonna walk through it.

1852
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 1: I love her attitude again, I love her attitude. I

1853
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: have loved her game. I am curious about the road ahead.

1854
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 2: All right. Hey, Jordan Levitt, not Joseph Gordon Levitt. Luke

1855
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 2: had a big night as well at USC fight night.

1856
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 2: Here's the TKO one he scored against Victor Martinez and

1857
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 2: it was nasty.

1858
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:45,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was good from Levitt, the world's most dangerous Mormon.

1859
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. He added a little levity too in his celebration there.

1860
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 2: I mean this looked like Anderson Silva versus Fritch Franklin

1861
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 2: one and two.

1862
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 1: The finish look like that?

1863
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 3: All right?

1864
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 2: Well, here's his celebration upon getting his hand raised. Luke,

1865
01:24:58,600 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 2: your thoughts on this?

1866
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 1: Does he torque the split. Yeah, oh my.

1867
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 2: God, that's a that's a that's a real one, Luke,

1868
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 2: that's not a fake one. That's like down to the

1869
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 2: the grundle. He put grundle on the mat.

1870
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,759
Speaker 1: There, he put grundle on the mat there, espc.

1871
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 2: If I physically forced you to do that, would you

1872
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 2: ever walk again?

1873
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 4: Uh?

1874
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:18,799
Speaker 1: Not without crutches?

1875
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. And finally, Luke Jordan Levitt added

1876
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 2: one more touch to this shit. Here is his dirty

1877
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 2: dancing inspired celebration. He in fact had the time of

1878
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 2: his life, you know whatever, He's never felt that way before.

1879
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 1: Look my man doing the lifting. You notice where his

1880
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 1: hand position is right hands, not overhead where you can

1881
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 1: fall back. He puts his hands out in front.

1882
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 2: You see it, right on the boob. Yeah, he went

1883
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 2: right for that. That second part.

1884
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 1: You say, look look at well look at the angle

1885
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: between his arm and his head. It's not directly overhead,

1886
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 1: it's kind of in front, so that way he can

1887
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: keep the weight in front of him.

1888
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 3: Yep.

1889
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 2: More from the Apex on Saturday, Luke, we know that

1890
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 2: Ryan Span did not get Nikita Kreela in the main

1891
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 2: event as promised. He was much more emotional than I expected. Afterwards,

1892
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 2: we'll see SPAN's reaction.

1893
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 4: And the plan was to go back to work Monday

1894
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 4: either way, So I guess that's what we're gonna have

1895
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 4: to do so that it isn't wasted. The disappointment comes

1896
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 4: from me not getting to show off some of the

1897
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 4: ship that we've been doing.

1898
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 3: My team. They invested a lot of time in me,

1899
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 3: and uh, okay, look, do we not.

1900
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 2: Focus on about the price that comes when these things happen?

1901
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure, Like you know, with the thing

1902
01:26:57,840 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: about the I mean, here's the thing about the data

1903
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 1: thing where he was like, who gives a shit? It's

1904
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 1: a really mean way to say it, but I sort

1905
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 1: of understand a little bit of his point, being like, dude,

1906
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: Connor's powerful. When you negotiate with powerful people, they they

1907
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: take things in the contract. It's just kind of how

1908
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: it goes. You're not gonna get everything you want. They're

1909
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:16,679
Speaker 1: not gonna everything they want, but they're gonna get stuff.

1910
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:18,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna get stuff, and he got stuff, and like,

1911
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,600
Speaker 1: I I sort of get that, I really do, But

1912
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 1: he said he was gonna take care of him. Some

1913
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,560
Speaker 1: of them are gonna appear on some upcoming fights. Like,

1914
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Speaker 1: he's not just gonna leave them twisting in the wind.

1915
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Speaker 1: I hope he didn't leave Ryan Span, who did nothing wrong,

1916
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 1: weighed in, made weight, was ready to go. I hope

1917
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Speaker 1: there's some kind of you know, compensation for him financially

1918
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 1: or just something they keep it moving, because dude, these guys,

1919
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: they you know, they don't necessarily make a lot in

1920
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 1: a lot of cases, and they just it's it's so

1921
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: time consuming to get good at MMA. When he talks

1922
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 1: about these guys investing time in them, I understand that

1923
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 1: man like you want to deliver for people who have

1924
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:52,560
Speaker 1: given you things you don't want to do.

1925
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 2: You know, if he got it, if he got his

1926
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 2: show money, he probably got at least that right.

1927
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 1: Well, so here's how the here's how the contracts work.

1928
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: Unless they changed. There's no such thing as show and

1929
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 1: win in your contract. Show and win is words that

1930
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 1: we use, but it doesn't appear anywhere in there. What

1931
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: happens is this the deal and that we dealt with

1932
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 1: this with Tony Ferguson when Habib fell out, he was like, oh,

1933
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 1: I made weight, I showed I should get my money.

1934
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 1: But these are just words we use that have no

1935
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 1: relationship to the contractual realities in the contract. If you win,

1936
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 1: you get your If you complete the bout, you get

1937
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 1: your purse. And the way it's described in the contract

1938
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 1: is if you win, you get a bonus, usually the

1939
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: same amount, so twenty and twenty ten and ten whatever

1940
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: it may end up being. So you have to complete

1941
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 1: the bout to get any of your money, unless the

1942
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 1: UFC is simply being generous. We hope in this case

1943
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: they're being generous.

1944
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Taichi Pallas, I hope he gets promised something,

1945
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 2: Luke for doing this, but unlike Tachi, I hope that

1946
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 2: Dana comes through. Hey, let's go to lightweight. Trevor Peak.

1947
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 2: He won his UFC debut with a ko one of

1948
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:57,839
Speaker 2: Eric Gonzalez at the buzzer.

1949
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Yeah, that was sick. That's his UFC debut too.

1950
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 1: He was letting him have it. My man needs a

1951
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 1: tam though.

1952
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,839
Speaker 2: That's okay, he's got that. Miguel Coto. I haven't redcotch

1953
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 2: arm tat going on.

1954
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 4: I like that.

1955
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 1: That's the tribal tattoo.

1956
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:15,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there you go, Well done there, Trevor Peak. Luke.

1957
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 2: The current jerker on Saturday's cart involved lightweight Norillo Aviev

1958
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 2: from Tajikistan making his UFC debut. He got the win.

1959
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 2: Let's check out this interview, which has a live shot

1960
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 2: of an outdoor stadium at three a m. In his

1961
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 2: home country. Look at this reception and.

1962
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 3: Two two pm, three a m.

1963
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 6: There right now, three im m night ten million and Sadian.

1964
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,680
Speaker 2: Hey, yesterday my.

1965
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: Father called.

1966
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 3: Come come lookod, look at look at this.

1967
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:04,719
Speaker 9: My father yesterday call me ula fight Come your winning day.

1968
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 3: Your wedding day.

1969
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 9: Oh no way, congratulations Dinna fifty k brother, Hey, come well,

1970
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 9: come then I showed my country twenty five hour and fly.

1971
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 2: Well, you are just as good on the microphone as

1972
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 2: you are.

1973
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 3: In the case.

1974
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 2: Congratulations. The first ever fight is to represent Tajikistan. Now, Rulo,

1975
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 2: I'll leave, Ladies and gentlemen.

1976
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 1: Look, I'm he's good too. He can fight.

1977
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,560
Speaker 2: I'm never going to tire of when someone wins a

1978
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:38,560
Speaker 2: championship and they fly back to their home country and

1979
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 2: the airport welcomes them, or stuff like this, dude that

1980
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 2: he wants fifty k. There may have been fifty k

1981
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:45,680
Speaker 2: in that stadium watching him in the middle of the night.

1982
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

1983
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 1: BC. Was there a single woman in that audience didn't look.

1984
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 2: Like, oh how dare you? Oh dear, I mean, how

1985
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 2: dare you?

1986
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 9: Right?

1987
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 1: Am I not allowed to point out there's not winning

1988
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 1: anywhere around?

1989
01:30:58,120 --> 01:30:59,760
Speaker 2: Like I mean, could you imagine if we had a

1990
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 2: big moment like us hosting that MK in the UK

1991
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 2: Live show. Imagine if there was also a stadium in

1992
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 2: Jersey City of people filled just wanting to have a

1993
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 2: watch party.

1994
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool our moment.

1995
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 1: Not much to do with Jastan, but still pretty cool.

1996
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, Jake Paul and Tommy Fury from Saudi Arabia.

1997
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 2: Time let's go to Badu Jack in this co main event.

1998
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,839
Speaker 2: Old dude, I did not mean to dismiss his chances

1999
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 2: here against thirty five year old Alunga Makabu and their

2000
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 2: WBC Cruiserweight title bout. But Luke, I've watched Badu Jack's

2001
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 2: last four or five fights. He's won them all. They

2002
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 2: were against let's say, let's be honest, journeyman level competition

2003
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 2: and at times he struggled. But dude, he went back

2004
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:42,720
Speaker 2: to training like a like a champion again in the

2005
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 2: difference here against Makabu, who did snap a year plus layoff, shocked,

2006
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 2: scored a knockdown, and then that final round Man got

2007
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 2: the stop it BC.

2008
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 1: Here's what really gets me. I want folks to pay

2009
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 1: attention to something. Look at the angles that Badu Jack.

2010
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: Look at the lead foot angle that Badu Jack has.

2011
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 1: He is so far to the outside. Look at him

2012
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 1: move step around right hand boom. It is amazing the

2013
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 1: angles he was able to. This is what they mean

2014
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 1: when they say hit them from angles. It means that

2015
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 1: taking an angle like that, Makabu had no answer for it.

2016
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 1: All night long.

2017
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 2: I saw an interview with Amira Abdullah, who has been

2018
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,720
Speaker 2: in body Jack's corner from the beginning, seemingly one of

2019
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 2: his manager supporters, and he was saying that they had

2020
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 2: open scoring for this fight through the WBC, so they

2021
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 2: had access to it. After the eighth round. I think

2022
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 2: they saw it again in the tenth and what they

2023
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 2: basically said was the fight was a lot close to

2024
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:40,799
Speaker 2: than we thought it should have been, so they implored

2025
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:42,559
Speaker 2: Jack to come on and look, I'm gonna be out.

2026
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 2: I thought he would have guessed in this situation if

2027
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 2: the fight was this Competitivecabu.

2028
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 1: Who kind of guessed it was Micaba who with.

2029
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 2: That long layoff just wasn't what we're used to. But

2030
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:54,680
Speaker 2: on top of that, like you mentioned, Jack stuck to

2031
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 2: the fundamentals of boxing. He had better footweark quicker hands

2032
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 2: as the smaller fighter moving up and dude, three division

2033
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 2: champion now, and let's put some respect on his name.

2034
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 2: When Badu first got knocked out on Showtime by Derek Edwards,

2035
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 2: I think it was a showbox fight. Back in the day,

2036
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 2: we were like, yeah, see another Floyd Mayweather promoted fighter

2037
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:14,679
Speaker 2: who's not going anywhere. There's a lot of like hate

2038
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 2: online for that. What Badu did was he got up

2039
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 2: off the canvas, worked his way back into title contention,

2040
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:22,680
Speaker 2: won a title in two divisions, was a part of

2041
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:24,639
Speaker 2: so many Fight of the Year contenders, remember the one

2042
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 2: with James de Gail. Got the wrong end of a

2043
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 2: few very high profile draws, but never stopped cooking Luke

2044
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 2: and look at this thirty nine years old three division

2045
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 2: champion and this was a very legit win. So shout

2046
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 2: out to Badu, Jack.

2047
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:39,759
Speaker 1: Shout out to the sports washing on that broadcast.

2048
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 2: Boy, there was a lot of it.

2049
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 1: Let you know that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and

2050
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 1: the place to be, did they not?

2051
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 2: They said the title the words the Kingdom of Saudi

2052
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 2: Arabia probably ten thousand times there.

2053
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 1: Maybe you get caught, you know, making beer in your

2054
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 1: house because alcohol is shrictly prohibited, they'll lash you and

2055
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 1: potentially throw you in jail it potentially even deport you.

2056
01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 1: But sure, Kingdom of sid Arabia a great place to be.

2057
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't like the WWE events there where they

2058
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:06,959
Speaker 2: run these like propaganda videos about the country's social turnaround.

2059
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:09,759
Speaker 2: But here's footage, Luke of the ending where Jack finished

2060
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 2: off Makabu in round twelve. And you know what, how

2061
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:15,440
Speaker 2: about this the first Muslim fighter to win a championship

2062
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,600
Speaker 2: in Saudi Arabia and in the islam world is in

2063
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 2: the Islamic world? Is how they framed it. Luke so happy,

2064
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 2: He's pretty cool.

2065
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 1: That's pretty for body who.

2066
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:24,680
Speaker 2: Walked out with Mike Tyson. You know, it was a

2067
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 2: big event there. I mean, there was a lot of

2068
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 2: sports watching going on, but a big night for those involved.

2069
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 2: Let's keep it going there. Here's a weird ending to

2070
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 2: the Jake Paul Tommy Fury face to face. Not sure

2071
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 2: if you saw this shit. Luke and Jake face bunk.

2072
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 2: Are we ready for war?

2073
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 3: Two?

2074
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 2: Gentlemen there on Sunday night.

2075
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 5: See you.

2076
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 2: I'll see you at the way in first so I'll

2077
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 2: see you.

2078
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 1: Sunday night and the way. Yeah, I just yeah, whatever

2079
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 1: you wanted.

2080
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2081
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:56,640
Speaker 2: The Truth. February twenty sixth in Darya local time in

2082
01:34:56,800 --> 01:35:01,760
Speaker 2: Saudi in read ten pm, Jake, Paul, Tommy Fury. We

2083
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,679
Speaker 2: will find out who is a contender, Who is a boxer?

2084
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 3: Who is the truth?

2085
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:36,480
Speaker 2: M somebody kiss turned into like a barstool Sunday conversation.

2086
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 1: How much time you got? This is how me and

2087
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 1: BC planned most shows.

2088
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 7: I sweat to god, I will say until Sunday night.

2089
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 1: See, I don't sleep. As for men, you're gonna have

2090
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:53,679
Speaker 1: to sep. Do you know that that's not good?

2091
01:35:59,640 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2092
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:01,040
Speaker 2: Have had about enough of this shit?

2093
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 4: Uh?

2094
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 3: Luke?

2095
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 2: Did We'll show We'll show a thing.

2096
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:07,560
Speaker 1: Literally, I'm literally getting emails from Rumble now about the

2097
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 1: power slap live Finaley you.

2098
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 2: Better, you better believe it. Luke? What did you make?

2099
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 2: I'm not going to play it here. As we show

2100
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 2: a footage of Jake entering the arena on a ski mask,

2101
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 2: trying to echo what Floyd Mayweather war on his way

2102
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 2: into the Connor McGregor fight. But what did you make

2103
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 2: of that locker room interview before the main event where

2104
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 2: Jake just kept nervously saying ha ha.

2105
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I watched that one either.

2106
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 2: Oh boy, you would have had a lot to say

2107
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,759
Speaker 2: about that. Can we show quickly the ski mask entrance

2108
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 2: and there you go, Luke?

2109
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 3: Is that cool?

2110
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 1: The balla clava? Yeah, that's what that's called, by the way.

2111
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry, Luke. The bac lava, the Greek dessert.

2112
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 1: Very well done there, Jalla clava and Luke here.

2113
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 2: People were wondering if we would play it. Here's your

2114
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 2: interview of the weekend in Combat Sports. It was during

2115
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 2: the Jake Paul Tommy Fury fight, and it's Radio Raheem

2116
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 2: interviewing brother Logan Paul ringside.

2117
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 3: Jake, I love you.

2118
01:36:57,920 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you a big speech.

2119
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 2: I know you got this, but I had to come

2120
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 2: back victorious to come back on your shield. I love you, bro,

2121
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 2: I love you too.

2122
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:04,639
Speaker 4: Man.

2123
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 2: How do you feel like he's doing so far in

2124
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 2: the fight.

2125
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 1: I saw someone on Twitter. I saw someone on Twitter

2126
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 1: that's being like It's like when the waiter tells you

2127
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 1: have a great meal and then you tell them back

2128
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: you two, It's like.

2129
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:23,599
Speaker 2: Right, no, yeah, sorry, sorry Radio Rahim. He was talking

2130
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:25,639
Speaker 2: to his brother and then when he cut off quickly,

2131
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 2: but what did you make? I thought this was actually

2132
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 2: pretty cool that they ran that interview on the house

2133
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 2: audio so everybody in the stadium could hear it. And

2134
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:35,639
Speaker 2: did you hear him go? Hey this part, Hey Tommy Furry,

2135
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 2: you sucking You're gonna guess out? I mean that was

2136
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 2: actually pretty funny.

2137
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 1: Look yeah, and then he said every fury is a

2138
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 1: bitch and I was like, well, yeah, John may gouge

2139
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 1: out your eye.

2140
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 2: But other than that, I mean, Luke, Radio Rahim has

2141
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 2: been around for a while. It wasn't his best night

2142
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:52,640
Speaker 2: when he told uh, when he told Jake, you're a

2143
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:53,599
Speaker 2: fucking warrior.

2144
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 1: You know, listen, I think listen. I'll just say this

2145
01:37:57,479 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 1: broadcasting is hard. Certainly had my own issues. I will

2146
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 1: like he he was without sin cast the first known

2147
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 1: look to me like old Radio Rahim. A little bit nervous,

2148
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 1: A little bit nervous.

2149
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:10,600
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. I just know that that

2150
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 2: this is Brian Campbell talking about Radio Rahim. Back to

2151
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:16,480
Speaker 2: our ship countdown, Luke, Let's go to Showtime Boxing in Minneapolis.

2152
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 2: No ship here, but uh, Luke, check out Supriold Mattias

2153
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 2: has walked to the ring. You know you have status

2154
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:25,799
Speaker 2: if you walk out with like a current rapper. Mattias

2155
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 2: is like, no, let me get up Boilo and let's

2156
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 2: listen to this, Luke.

2157
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 1: Yobody.

2158
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 4: Me m.

2159
01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 3: I love it.

2160
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 2: It's just like sticking your middle finger in the face.

2161
01:38:57,680 --> 01:38:59,560
Speaker 1: That's legit as of what we're used to.

2162
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is that is. That guy brings it,

2163
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 2: no question. I mean, we've seen mariachi bands, We've seen

2164
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 2: the rap thing. I don't know if I've seen this.

2165
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 2: This was great, Luke. We mentioned Matias had the big

2166
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 2: breakthrough the knockdown of Heremias Ponse in round five that

2167
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 2: led to the victory. Between rounds. Here's a look at

2168
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:18,759
Speaker 2: the combination that led to this knockdown.

2169
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 1: Look at this dude. Look at the angle on these

2170
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 1: punches and how much he's able to get on them,

2171
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 1: and the flurry and the amount of them. He is

2172
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 1: so devastating on the inside and ponce credit he stands,

2173
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:33,640
Speaker 1: he answers the bell. Look at this switching angles on

2174
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:36,759
Speaker 1: him like this. Look at the flurry, the hand speed.

2175
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 2: Oh my lord, he is and it's all accurate. It's

2176
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 2: all accurate. Man, It's a typhoon of power shots. Let's

2177
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:44,599
Speaker 2: go to the opening fight of the night. How about

2178
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 2: Elvis Rodriguez taken on Joseph Adorno. Rodriguez would go on

2179
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 2: to win a decision, but look at this knockdown. I

2180
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 2: don't know how Adorno survived this punch.

2181
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 1: Oh, he ate this one clean, yeah, and he got

2182
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 1: up and.

2183
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 2: Was throwing and Luke, I'm never gonna you know, I'm

2184
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,680
Speaker 2: never gonna discount Dorno's toughness and he always brings it,

2185
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:03,800
Speaker 2: but came up empty in the end in this one.

2186
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 2: But a good win for Elvis Rodriguez. Freddie Roach coached

2187
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 2: product here.

2188
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 1: Dono's tough, but he ate that punch.

2189
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 2: Well, look you and I called the prelimbs. And let's

2190
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:17,799
Speaker 2: go to the audio. Here, here's Willie Jones, a thirty

2191
01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 2: one year old journeyman trained by Ronnie Shields, though taking

2192
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 2: on I think it was eighteen year old prospect Derek

2193
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 2: Diesel Jackson. Let's see what happened here in round one.

2194
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 2: Excuse me, oh my, And that's the fight right there.

2195
01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 2: Willie Jones demolishing Derek Jackson in just one round, just

2196
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 2: like that. That was a quick one.

2197
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:49,639
Speaker 1: Wow, Derek Jackson was undefeated. Now he's got a loss

2198
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 1: on his record.

2199
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:51,960
Speaker 3: What a shot?

2200
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 2: There were Willy jokes, dude, that was surprising as shit.

2201
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 1: Man Jerneyman got going on Twitter. Someone on Twitter wrote,

2202
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 1: only Derek James could take a thirty one year old

2203
01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 1: eight and two record guy and have him completely not

2204
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:11,759
Speaker 1: just beat, but what basically one punch ko a top prospect.

2205
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 1: Folks don't understand the guy who got out, But yeah,

2206
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 1: who did I say, Derek Jackson, Derek James, Derek James,

2207
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 1: Ronnie Shields. I apologize. Only Ronnie Shields could do that

2208
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:24,680
Speaker 1: to a guy who was I think eight and two,

2209
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 1: thirty one years old, against this undefeated rising prospect that

2210
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 1: PBC had kind of slotted as like the guy to watch.

2211
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 1: Watch out careful, Yeah, watch out, be careful.

2212
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 2: What you asked for there, let's go to the MMA. Luke,

2213
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 2: here's your celebration of the week.

2214
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:44,880
Speaker 1: Oh oh, that's why the Commission doesn't let you do that.

2215
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, when being cool goes dangerously wrong, that's not that's great. Alright, alright, hey, Luke,

2216
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 2: there weren't a lot of people there. Befoyd Mayweather defeated

2217
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 2: Aaron Chalmers by decision in their exhibition match and then

2218
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 2: empty O two or are in London? Chalmers a former

2219
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:05,600
Speaker 2: Belatour fighter and reality TV star in the UK, And

2220
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 2: here's Floyd between rounds, just chilling your thoughts, just.

2221
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 1: Just taking money from these dogs. What did you think

2222
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 1: with impunity?

2223
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 2: What did you think of the Union Jack boxers there?

2224
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 1: You got to wear those next time we go to

2225
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 1: the UK.

2226
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 2: I think I do, I think I do. This wasn't

2227
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 2: the viral highlight that came out of this, Luke. Look

2228
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 2: at Floyd's moves mid round?

2229
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 1: Oh man, he's out here styling.

2230
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:39,400
Speaker 2: It was that kind of night for Floyd. All right, hey,

2231
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:41,519
Speaker 2: time for some tomato dick? Have you ever seen this?

2232
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:46,280
Speaker 1: At the produce Stan Luke to say, where is wow?

2233
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 3: That is?

2234
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 2: I mean, look at the unit on that guy right.

2235
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 1: Cut the butthole right under the dick, that's right under it?

2236
01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 2: Yep. Do you do you check that for firmness? Do

2237
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:56,600
Speaker 2: you squeeze it? I don't know really know how to

2238
01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 2: handle that, to be.

2239
01:42:57,439 --> 01:42:59,599
Speaker 1: Fair, That's that's a lot going on there. I wouldn't

2240
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:01,120
Speaker 1: all right, tomato, would you eat that tomato?

2241
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 3: Nah?

2242
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I might be curious. I might be

2243
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:05,639
Speaker 2: create I'm curious enough.

2244
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 1: Are you tomato?

2245
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 4: Dong?

2246
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 1: Curious if I'm on.

2247
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 2: A pirate ship and I'm alone? Luke, does that answer

2248
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 2: the question? All right?

2249
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 1: Hey?

2250
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 2: You ever know those weirdos who put stuffed animals in

2251
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 2: the back window of their car? You ever see those people?

2252
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 3: Luke?

2253
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 1: Yes? Losers?

2254
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 2: You mean, yeah, some people take that to the next level.

2255
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 2: Check out this car at the gas station.

2256
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 1: All right, can we just set this thing on fire?

2257
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 2: I mean, looks like Anderson Silva's action figure room.

2258
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 8: Right.

2259
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:32,719
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. If you're gonna drive a nineteen

2260
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:37,360
Speaker 1: eighty eight Dodge Omni, you might as well just make

2261
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:39,400
Speaker 1: it look as dumb as possible. Right, what kind of

2262
01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 1: car is that?

2263
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:41,120
Speaker 4: Uh?

2264
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:44,879
Speaker 2: Well, uh, you know, uh, it looks like an average

2265
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 2: mid size four door Sedan.

2266
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 1: There, you know what it looks like? You're seeing like

2267
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:50,719
Speaker 1: the underside of a table at a public high school

2268
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 1: and how it's dumb.

2269
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what it looks like. Yeah. I had a

2270
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 2: science teacher in eighth grade who would take a baseball

2271
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 2: bat in the middle while we're taking tests. Slam it

2272
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 2: down on the top of a desk to like scare people,

2273
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:04,639
Speaker 2: and all the gross gum would fall on the floor. Luke,

2274
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 2: it was great.

2275
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 1: I had a teacher in ninth grade who told us

2276
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 1: that he believed that the devil created monkeys to trick

2277
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 1: man into believing into evolution. I'm glad I don't live

2278
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 1: in Georgia anymore anyway.

2279
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 2: That's why we can't do a live show at Big

2280
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:16,800
Speaker 2: Chicken because of you, Luke.

2281
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 1: So that actually was not that was actually in a

2282
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 1: place called Valdosta, Georgia, not Marietta. That's much deeper south.

2283
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 1: But the point still stands. I'm I'm glad to be gone.

2284
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:27,759
Speaker 2: All right, there you go. Hey, weird moments and weightlifting.

2285
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 2: This always gets a pop out of you.

2286
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was waiting for the fan, dude. I gotta

2287
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:34,680
Speaker 1: tell you something not nearly enough elder abuse. Recently, you've

2288
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 1: been slipping. You've been slipping.

2289
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, I slipped. I've fallen. I can't get up.

2290
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 2: You know I've slipped. I've fallen. I've got to get up, Luke.

2291
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 2: Here's some kettle ball juggling. You ever see this move?

2292
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 1: They didn't get the Yeah, so this is yeah, okay,

2293
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 1: so this is a real thing with kettlebells. Really, yeah,

2294
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 1: this is a real thing. So it's it's to promote

2295
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 1: hand eye coordination. By the way, she's good. She's actually

2296
01:44:56,320 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 1: really good. That's surprising, big old hefty lady.

2297
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 2: And that's all yeah for a for a wait for

2298
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 2: aging waitress, Luke.

2299
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 1: She's want to be clear, this is like a style

2300
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 1: of using the kettlebell. Like it's very different from like

2301
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 1: this competition kettlebells what they would call it. In fact,

2302
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:17,639
Speaker 1: that kettlebell is a competition kettlebell. So the competition kettle

2303
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 1: bell is. The reason why you can tell them that

2304
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 1: they're different is they usually are colored, but they're all

2305
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 1: the same size. They just way different depending on obviously,

2306
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:27,680
Speaker 1: whatever the weight is, a cast iron kettlebell will be

2307
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 1: bigger each time it gets bigger in weight. This is

2308
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 1: the competition ones are all the same size.

2309
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom just mailed me this T shirt. Just

2310
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 2: is this on brand, Luke. It's a kettlebell that's really

2311
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 2: a cheeseburger and it says all day every day at

2312
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 2: the bottom, you know.

2313
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 1: Let me see it again. I didn't see it because

2314
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:52,759
Speaker 1: my thing for a show me one more time cheat meals,

2315
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 1: specially burgers, fries and gains. You know that's that shirt.

2316
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 2: Rules bro, Yeah all day. She actually bought it because

2317
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 2: of the all day, everyday thing, Luke, because she loves

2318
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 2: MK so much. But uh, it is on brand for

2319
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 2: my health unfortunately, unfortunately, Luke. Let's keep this countdown going.

2320
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:12,840
Speaker 2: Uh there's a good one today. Okay, let's see. Let's

2321
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 2: go to weightlifting more. Here, here's some deadlifts. But I

2322
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 2: never thought about mixing acupuncture with deadlifting.

2323
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, just get fucked loser. I mean his

2324
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 1: deadlift is clean.

2325
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:29,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, very clean.

2326
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:36,640
Speaker 1: I hope you. I genuinely hope these guys get paralyzed.

2327
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, Luke, Okay, okay, all right, Hey it's

2328
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 2: John Jones Fight week.

2329
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 6: Luke.

2330
01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 2: Let's stance all right. Check out this interview he did

2331
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,719
Speaker 2: with uh Brazil's Finess.

2332
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 1: What's her name, Luke, ev Rodriguez?

2333
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 2: Ev Rodriguez, I always Frodriguez, but yeah, yeah, Evy great,

2334
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 2: big fan, big fan of her work. She sat down

2335
01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:59,080
Speaker 2: with John Jones ahead of this weekend's UFC two eight

2336
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 2: four five one of the two got you.

2337
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 3: All right, there we go.

2338
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:11,759
Speaker 1: That's how I got.

2339
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:13,639
Speaker 3: Good job.

2340
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 2: Look outside of us criticizing John's UH comments about about

2341
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 2: Francis and Ganu, it has seemed this has been a

2342
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 2: wholesome John Jones return up to this point, which you

2343
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 2: agree he's playing the he's playing the baby face.

2344
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 1: It's Johnny for now until he gets arrested for you know,

2345
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:36,439
Speaker 1: setting off fireworks at three am or whatever he's gonna do,

2346
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:38,200
Speaker 1: and then you know, we're all back to where we are.

2347
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, all right, portion of the cycle, he's

2348
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 1: in the good part.

2349
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of cycling, no, just kidding. From one Luke

2350
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 2: enemy to another Luke. It's time for a new segment. Alert.

2351
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:50,600
Speaker 2: This one's called this week in Dana White. How about this?

2352
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:53,839
Speaker 2: Lukey sat down with Robbie Fox of Your Mom's Basement

2353
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 2: yesterday for a surprise interview, and here's the big RELI

2354
01:47:57,160 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 2: revelation in my UH mentions in d M this morning,

2355
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:01,240
Speaker 2: let's hear from Dana.

2356
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:03,560
Speaker 8: We went through COVID, you know, and I had to

2357
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 8: listen to all the bullshit as we went through COVID,

2358
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:08,560
Speaker 8: and then after I came out with a you know,

2359
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 8: a little documentary I did about the media going into COVID,

2360
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 8: which is gonna be even bigger. I'm working on even

2361
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:19,800
Speaker 8: a bigger, a bigger piece about the media and the guys. Wait,

2362
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 8: do you see this bad Boy we were working on.

2363
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 2: Are you gonna put the are you gonna put their

2364
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:24,760
Speaker 2: faces on it? Like they were the mob again?

2365
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:31,000
Speaker 8: Publications names what they said, the whole deal. It's gonna

2366
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:33,599
Speaker 8: live Ron, and I'll do the same thing with power

2367
01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 8: Slap once this thing, once we get where we're going.

2368
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 2: Apparently they're going to rumble, so hopefully he posts his

2369
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 2: new documentary.

2370
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't even know what to say

2371
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 1: about It's like, dude, here's the crazy part about this.

2372
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:57,800
Speaker 1: It's like the MMA media is so captured at this point.

2373
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:00,160
Speaker 1: It's like the most obsequious media in all all of

2374
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:02,320
Speaker 1: sports media, or certainly in the running for it. I mean,

2375
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 1: I guess after the weekend boxing media is up for

2376
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 1: you know that too. But uh, and yet still complaining

2377
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:11,559
Speaker 1: about the unfair coverage. It's like shocking. It's like truly shocking.

2378
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:14,799
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, no one benefits from more soft coverage

2379
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:18,360
Speaker 1: than the UFC, and he's still bitter about people. By

2380
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 1: the way, it's not just the MMA media. I'll be

2381
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,439
Speaker 1: curious to see this thing. Uh okay, do you think.

2382
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 2: He doesn't know? Let's let's talk about that four minute

2383
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 2: hit piece that he put out and it's back up.

2384
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:29,559
Speaker 2: It's back live again. And of course, unfortunately I'm at

2385
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 2: the center of it. CBX Sports is Brandon Wise, my

2386
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 2: editor is at the center of it. When you joined

2387
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 2: my podcast, we all know that was like fake news.

2388
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 2: He took everything, for the most part, out of context.

2389
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:43,920
Speaker 2: They ran a picture of a column I wrote that

2390
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:46,559
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with COVID and made it right.

2391
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 2: Do you think he even knows that?

2392
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know what he knows or

2393
01:49:52,720 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 1: even cares about. He just wants to lash out. I'll

2394
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:57,679
Speaker 1: just tell you that if it's anything like the last one,

2395
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 1: I can't wait to fact check it, because the last

2396
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 1: one was just basically totally bogus nonsense. And uh yeah,

2397
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:08,400
Speaker 1: I mean, if you really want to go to the

2398
01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:10,560
Speaker 1: mat and saying everyone's wrong about power Slap.

2399
01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:11,760
Speaker 3: I you know, I.

2400
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:15,599
Speaker 1: Plead by all means great well.

2401
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 2: He claims in the the interview was mostly power Slap

2402
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 2: centered with Robbie and we like Robbie. By the way

2403
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:22,080
Speaker 2: he shout out to Robbie Fox, he doesn't hide it

2404
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 2: from who he is Luke Okay, so at the very

2405
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 2: least I respect him.

2406
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:26,920
Speaker 1: He's nice to me. He's definitely a nice, very nice

2407
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 1: guy in person.

2408
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:32,080
Speaker 2: But the thing Dana said was ultimately that they are

2409
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:35,559
Speaker 2: successful because the power Slap is doing billions of hits

2410
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:38,760
Speaker 2: on social and he thought it could do millions after

2411
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:40,639
Speaker 2: seeing it for the first time. So because it's doing

2412
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 2: billions on social, that's.

2413
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:43,960
Speaker 1: The thing I tweeted about this earlier a couple of

2414
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 1: weeks ago. It's this is the gamble that they're making.

2415
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:48,560
Speaker 1: It's actually a fairly interesting gamble when you think about it,

2416
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:50,759
Speaker 1: not to say that they're right, but that the gamble

2417
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 1: itself is worth thinking about. They're basically making the argument, like, Wow,

2418
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:56,639
Speaker 1: look at this thing that popped up on my phone,

2419
01:50:57,280 --> 01:51:00,280
Speaker 1: and how much traffic it does and how much tension

2420
01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:02,760
Speaker 1: it's able to claim. If it can do this much

2421
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:05,720
Speaker 1: on my phone, can we take a TV version of

2422
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:08,680
Speaker 1: it and capture some of that audience for that medium? Right?

2423
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 1: Can we take it from the phone and put it there,

2424
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:12,519
Speaker 1: And of course you can recycle all that for the

2425
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:15,560
Speaker 1: phone as well, But like, can you actually make programming

2426
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:18,680
Speaker 1: from something an experience like this? And I have a

2427
01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:21,600
Speaker 1: feeling that slap actually does work to some degree on

2428
01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 1: the phone for virality, But I don't know that you

2429
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 1: can build television programming around it where you have to

2430
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 1: sell advertising against it. That to me is lot. Can

2431
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 1: you make that transition? I guess we'll see, but probably

2432
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 1: not all.

2433
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:36,800
Speaker 2: Right if this come if they come out with this

2434
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 2: power slap hit piece video, and if you are not

2435
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:45,520
Speaker 2: mentioned or shown one time during it, will you be disappointed?

2436
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:50,760
Speaker 1: No, surprised. I'd be surprised if I don't. If I'm

2437
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 1: er for two, I'd be surprised. But I don't. I

2438
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 1: wasn't the only like there were a lot. Okay, let's

2439
01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 1: ask this question, like, and you know, it's funny because

2440
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:01,639
Speaker 1: I was very critical of how the UC handled COVID

2441
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 1: at least early where now since passed all of that,

2442
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 1: but U the tachy palace thing anyway, and uh, but

2443
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:11,240
Speaker 1: I definitely was not the heaviest critic for the power stopping.

2444
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 1: Like there was a lot of people that went way

2445
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:13,479
Speaker 1: harder in the paint than me.

2446
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess we'll see, Okay, Luca, It's

2447
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 2: hard for me to always transition to the low hanging

2448
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 2: fruit of O, Dana, you insult me, I bring up

2449
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 2: why am I cliffs in the uh? In the Yama clove, Luke.

2450
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 2: But uh, but remember when Dean Thomas was on the

2451
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:31,760
Speaker 2: show and he talked how bad he felt for Dana

2452
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:34,800
Speaker 2: that time, Luke, this next video could have been Dana,

2453
01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:36,440
Speaker 2: but he playing.

2454
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 1: A big big Bertha just went straight down.

2455
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:44,360
Speaker 3: To the drink.

2456
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:46,840
Speaker 2: See how easy it is, Dana. Look at that lady.

2457
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:47,840
Speaker 2: She can do it.

2458
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:50,559
Speaker 1: This is better than the other, This is better than

2459
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:53,400
Speaker 1: the other lady who just kind of Yeah.

2460
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:54,760
Speaker 2: I couldn't have run that one. I felt too bad

2461
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:55,799
Speaker 2: for that big country.

2462
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2463
01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2464
01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:57,320
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2465
01:52:57,320 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what she was trying to achieve here,

2466
01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:00,599
Speaker 1: but it looks like she's trying to run face first

2467
01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 1: into the water, in which case, well done.

2468
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:03,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2469
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:05,519
Speaker 2: I think it was a belly flop challenger, at least

2470
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:07,960
Speaker 2: I like to believe that, Luke. We played some NXT

2471
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:10,120
Speaker 2: video in the past to former bell to Or fighter

2472
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:14,200
Speaker 2: Valerie Lareda. Now Lolavice having her first televised match. She

2473
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:17,679
Speaker 2: just had her second one, Luke, And according to Lola,

2474
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 2: you can't handle the heat. The Miami heat is all

2475
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:30,320
Speaker 2: right at hip attack there. Oh, I think that just

2476
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 2: pushed the wrong button for Soul.

2477
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:32,400
Speaker 3: Ruka.

2478
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 2: We were feeling the Miami heat briefly. Yeah, but Soul

2479
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 2: tries to come back. But Lola, there's a cover. Luke,

2480
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:47,760
Speaker 2: would you volunteer to take that finishing move attempt? The

2481
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 2: rare view? I think it is what they should call.

2482
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 1: It, you know, I may I may be Dan's right.

2483
01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 1: I may have to retract all of my power slap

2484
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:58,200
Speaker 1: criticism because watching that, I don't know how adults watch

2485
01:53:58,280 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 1: that either, candidly, you know.

2486
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:02,599
Speaker 2: All right, but I don't watch anymore. Don't don't clown

2487
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:04,800
Speaker 2: on me, all right, I watch. I watch Bare knuckle

2488
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 2: Fighting KO the week time, Luke. And let's go to

2489
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:10,760
Speaker 2: the BKFC Friday Night heavyweight Championship on the line, and

2490
01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:17,040
Speaker 2: Alan Belcher just took that title. Luke, round one, damn.

2491
01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:20,639
Speaker 1: I mean his hand was way down. He just kind

2492
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:24,880
Speaker 1: of pushed into it. It's a nice shot. There's Chris Lytle.

2493
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:31,200
Speaker 2: There's a new heavyweight champion. And I bet you Lamar

2494
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 2: Hunt is calling Luke or maybe Lorenzo your choice on

2495
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:34,080
Speaker 2: that one.

2496
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, get him to extend. He gets them to bite

2497
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:39,600
Speaker 1: on the fake and gets him to extend and uh

2498
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:42,840
Speaker 1: pops them with it, Alan Belcher, Alan Belcher, I got

2499
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 1: to say this doesn't have doesn't really good on us

2500
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 1: title to claim he doesn't have all the great accolades,

2501
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 1: but he's got that whoso mar Paul Harris Win and

2502
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 1: he's out here still knuckling people into the dirt and BKFC,

2503
01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:56,440
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool.

2504
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:58,960
Speaker 2: Oh my audio went out if I talked over you there, Luke,

2505
01:54:59,000 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, al.

2506
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:02,000
Speaker 1: Right, I couldn't. Okay, I couldn't. Zoom is freezing, So

2507
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 1: that's what that's the issue. All right.

2508
01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:05,200
Speaker 2: Well, hey, let's keep up. Let's keep counting down these

2509
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 2: ko's of the week to close here, Let's go to

2510
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:07,880
Speaker 2: the muy Thai ring.

2511
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh jesus, you got the old Conlin blah and

2512
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 1: the mouthpiece went out too good?

2513
01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 2: Lord, yeah, well look at the collective effort of like

2514
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:20,880
Speaker 2: five people to save this guy from ruin.

2515
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, boy talking about testifying in church. My man

2516
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 1: lifted the arms.

2517
01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 2: Lord, Let's go to this MMA promotion is called FCR

2518
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 2: and Bernardo so Pi just commandeered the bantam weight world title.

2519
01:55:34,160 --> 01:55:34,840
Speaker 2: Let's check it out.

2520
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 1: Popped him coming in Wow.

2521
01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:46,720
Speaker 2: Questionable back tattoo.

2522
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 1: But you know, nice finish, Luke, very nice finish, one hitlitter,

2523
01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 1: good shot.

2524
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:51,760
Speaker 3: B see.

2525
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:54,000
Speaker 1: I'm where are the old people on scooters?

2526
01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:56,320
Speaker 2: I'm really I don't know if we have them. We

2527
01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 2: got a couple more left. Speaking of tattoos, it's time

2528
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 2: to rate that tatt UFC Retired Fighter edition. Let's go

2529
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 2: over to Chris Leban, who's actually a decent follow on Instagram.

2530
01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:07,360
Speaker 2: Here's his new thigh tat.

2531
01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:10,640
Speaker 1: It's not bad.

2532
01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:12,640
Speaker 2: I like the color a lot.

2533
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:16,000
Speaker 1: It's a little much. It's a little much with the

2534
01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 1: head being cut off, but it's not bad. Usually with

2535
01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:24,480
Speaker 1: Japanese you would have some kind of broader context or

2536
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:28,560
Speaker 1: in terms of the overall piece, like you would have

2537
01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 1: a design behind it. This is just the figure itself,

2538
01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:36,920
Speaker 1: but it's not terribly done.

2539
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:40,560
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, you mentioned that the UK cuisine was

2540
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:43,840
Speaker 2: not up to our liking at the most average level.

2541
01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 2: For the most part, we ordered things that we thought

2542
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:48,800
Speaker 2: were familiar, but they were just oddly shaped or out

2543
01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 2: of place. Does this next video sum up our UK

2544
01:56:51,560 --> 01:56:52,520
Speaker 2: eating experience or what?

2545
01:56:58,680 --> 01:56:58,720
Speaker 5: No?

2546
01:56:58,920 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 1: Because that looks delicious and this guy looks like a

2547
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:10,800
Speaker 1: dumb ass. Yeah, why don't you wear a white shirt

2548
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:13,520
Speaker 1: for a croissant the sizeable Volkswagen. You fuck boy.

2549
01:57:14,680 --> 01:57:17,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's go over to Maheta.

2550
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:17,440
Speaker 3: Luke.

2551
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:19,320
Speaker 2: You know, one of my favorite mm A fighters who's

2552
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:22,440
Speaker 2: set to make his PFL debut. He recently purchased a

2553
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:23,280
Speaker 2: new gun safe.

2554
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 1: That's actually very responsible. I'm glad to see that. Actually,

2555
01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm all right with that. I grew up in the

2556
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 1: house with a gun safe.

2557
01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:35,280
Speaker 2: You got to keep your valuables protected, Luke, and Maheta

2558
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 2: is doing that right now, new baby O.

2559
01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:42,680
Speaker 1: Listen, responsible gun ownership. Two thumbs up from this guy. Now,

2560
01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:44,840
Speaker 1: he's also got weapons of war in there. And I

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01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:46,720
Speaker 1: realized that he used to be a member of the

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01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 1: of the law enforcement community but or no special soldier,

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01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 1: excuse me, he was special.

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01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 2: That's street legal, Luke.

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01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:56,800
Speaker 1: Well, in Texas it probably is, right, I mean, in

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01:57:56,880 --> 01:57:58,320
Speaker 1: Texas you can take that to Walmart.

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01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can walk right in on the belt with that. Yeah,

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01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:03,240
Speaker 2: nobody would care. All right, my head.

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01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:03,800
Speaker 3: So there you go.

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01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 2: Finally, Luke, let's go over to the lacrosse pitch for

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01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:18,360
Speaker 2: our clip of the week. Oh oh lacrosse.

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01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:22,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, God, did you ever see that ESPN documentary

2573
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:27,120
Speaker 1: over those three Native American brothers who were like phenoms

2574
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 1: in college lacrosse. Did you ever see that?

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01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:29,800
Speaker 2: I did not.

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01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:32,280
Speaker 1: I didn't, Dude. Those guys were amazing. They had long,

2577
01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:34,880
Speaker 1: like braided ponytails like you see from certain Native American

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01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:37,920
Speaker 1: tribes do, and their names were amazing. I never forget.

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01:58:37,960 --> 01:58:40,840
Speaker 1: There was one dude's name. His name was Dale de Gande,

2580
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:44,360
Speaker 1: which translated to and I think whatever uh Native American

2581
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:48,120
Speaker 1: uh tribe they were from, translated to he scorches the sky.

2582
01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:50,760
Speaker 1: That was his fucking name. And I was like, Dude,

2583
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:53,480
Speaker 1: that is the coolest fucking name I've ever heard, Daloe

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01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:53,920
Speaker 1: de Gande.

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01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:56,920
Speaker 2: Interesting stuff, Luke. But that's then.

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01:58:57,240 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 1: But then he had like they had. But then they

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01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:02,240
Speaker 1: had like like regular like English American names, Like their

2588
01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:05,040
Speaker 1: names were like Steve and you know, Jeffrey, but they

2589
01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:07,680
Speaker 1: had real Native American names. They had the coolest fucking

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01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:10,000
Speaker 1: Native All three of them had cool fucking Native American names.

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01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:13,240
Speaker 2: As long as they stay out of the duke lacrosse frat, Luke,

2592
01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:15,080
Speaker 2: I think all the women will be safe. Although that

2593
01:59:15,200 --> 01:59:16,240
Speaker 2: was that was proved wrong.

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01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:20,560
Speaker 1: They they proved in the end they were the you

2595
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 1: know and the famous words of the DC mayor Marion Barry.

2596
01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:27,320
Speaker 1: Bitch set me up, so that actually happened to them.

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01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:30,160
Speaker 2: Mikey is telling me that that is the Thompson brothers

2598
01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:30,800
Speaker 2: you're referring to.

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01:59:31,120 --> 01:59:33,520
Speaker 1: Yes, they have names here we go. They have names

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01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:37,120
Speaker 1: like Miles, Jerome, and Jeremy. But that's not their that's

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01:59:37,120 --> 01:59:40,000
Speaker 1: not their native those are just their you know, uh,

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01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, names for the American government. But they their

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01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:43,760
Speaker 1: other names.

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01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they played for the Saskatchewan Rush, according to Mikey, Yes.

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01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they were absolute dynamos in college. Couldn't be stopped.

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01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 2: Luke to close this week, do you want to shout

2607
01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:58,120
Speaker 2: out any of our great listeners? I don't know, do

2608
01:59:58,240 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 2: I I assume not. I just wanted to give you

2609
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:02,120
Speaker 2: the space though.

2610
02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:05,520
Speaker 1: To do that just setting me up for fails. I

2611
02:00:05,600 --> 02:00:09,360
Speaker 1: gotta take a BC not loving today's batch of shit.

2612
02:00:09,480 --> 02:00:11,200
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you you have really just turned it.

2613
02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:13,280
Speaker 1: It's turned into sports Center. It's just highlights.

2614
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:13,480
Speaker 4: Now.

2615
02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:16,640
Speaker 1: I want to see. I want to see ladies or

2616
02:00:16,760 --> 02:00:20,320
Speaker 1: dudes whatever on scooters hit into the waterfall or fall

2617
02:00:20,360 --> 02:00:23,160
Speaker 1: off a roof or you know something.

2618
02:00:23,240 --> 02:00:24,720
Speaker 2: Look, I put a lot of time in putting that

2619
02:00:24,760 --> 02:00:28,600
Speaker 2: shit together. Now, you're giving me a Tatiana Suarez postfight

2620
02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:31,440
Speaker 2: review reaction of like, well, you know, not that moved

2621
02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:33,000
Speaker 2: by it. Okay, not that moved.

2622
02:00:33,000 --> 02:00:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a solid B minus for

2623
02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:36,160
Speaker 1: the shit today. Be minus.

2624
02:00:36,200 --> 02:00:36,520
Speaker 3: All right.

2625
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:39,000
Speaker 2: I didn't even play video of the wardrobe malfunction from

2626
02:00:39,040 --> 02:00:40,560
Speaker 2: that match because I didn't think it was right to.

2627
02:00:40,680 --> 02:00:42,240
Speaker 1: Luke let me ask you about that. So if you

2628
02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:44,120
Speaker 1: guys didn't see it, there was moments there where Montana

2629
02:00:44,160 --> 02:00:47,120
Speaker 1: Dela Rosa had to literally leave her hands addressing the

2630
02:00:47,240 --> 02:00:50,520
Speaker 1: takedown of Tatana Suarez to go and then adjust her

2631
02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:52,840
Speaker 1: sports bra. Folks have said, well, what they should do

2632
02:00:52,960 --> 02:00:54,960
Speaker 1: is just wear rash guards. But the rash guards, man,

2633
02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:57,920
Speaker 1: it's a lot of there is a difference when you

2634
02:00:58,000 --> 02:01:00,040
Speaker 1: wear it. It's certainly better for protection. I think it

2635
02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:02,760
Speaker 1: feels to me like venom gear needs to like adjust

2636
02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:03,160
Speaker 1: that ship.

2637
02:01:04,120 --> 02:01:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you could also just wear the Roxane

2638
02:01:06,360 --> 02:01:08,600
Speaker 2: Mota furry shirt with the arm bands.

2639
02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:10,760
Speaker 1: That's the rash guard knee brace.

2640
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:12,680
Speaker 2: Oh that's what you're talking about, a rash guard. Oh,

2641
02:01:12,720 --> 02:01:14,880
Speaker 2: I didn't hear the tea. I didn't know the t

2642
02:01:15,040 --> 02:01:17,080
Speaker 2: shirt was called the rash guard. Look, I'm sorry, I'm

2643
02:01:17,120 --> 02:01:19,800
Speaker 2: not in the jiu jitsu community on the level of you.

2644
02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:22,440
Speaker 1: Okay, do you know what the equivalent of rash guards

2645
02:01:22,440 --> 02:01:24,480
Speaker 1: are for the for your legs, for your pants? Do

2646
02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:29,000
Speaker 1: you know what they call those shooting sleeves? Spats? Spats?

2647
02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:29,760
Speaker 2: Bats, spanks?

2648
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:34,560
Speaker 1: Spats spanks are what women wear to like, you know,

2649
02:01:34,720 --> 02:01:35,840
Speaker 1: it's like the pantyhose they wear.

2650
02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:39,400
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, It's like it's like that they tease you.

2651
02:01:39,640 --> 02:01:41,400
Speaker 2: It's like it's a bait and switch. It'd be like

2652
02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:44,040
Speaker 2: if I wear those new men's T shirts that accentuate

2653
02:01:44,120 --> 02:01:46,640
Speaker 2: your pectorals but really don't show off that you are Luca.

2654
02:01:46,640 --> 02:01:48,600
Speaker 2: I mean I might need those eventually.

2655
02:01:48,280 --> 02:01:48,440
Speaker 4: You know.

2656
02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well we join the club. We're all there. Yeah, hey,

2657
02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:53,520
Speaker 1: next week, I want to see some old ladies get

2658
02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:54,680
Speaker 1: thrown to the drink or something.

2659
02:01:55,160 --> 02:01:57,480
Speaker 2: All right, all right, yeah I might shower this week too,

2660
02:01:57,560 --> 02:01:58,920
Speaker 2: you know, Luke, I'm okay.

2661
02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:01,320
Speaker 1: You see, let's remind everyone. Tons of interviews and other

2662
02:02:01,400 --> 02:02:04,000
Speaker 1: stuff on YouTube dot com Slash Morning Combat, including the

2663
02:02:04,240 --> 02:02:07,560
Speaker 1: The Excuse Me, the Valentino ship checko interview, plus our

2664
02:02:07,680 --> 02:02:11,160
Speaker 1: pregame preview with Chuck Mindenhall available Now go get it.

2665
02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:12,960
Speaker 1: You want to reach the show, the producers will find

2666
02:02:13,000 --> 02:02:16,440
Speaker 1: it Morningcombat at gmail dot com. That'll be for Wednesday's

2667
02:02:16,440 --> 02:02:18,000
Speaker 1: fan subs, Friday's Dead Wrongs, or just to talk to

2668
02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:20,200
Speaker 1: the producers. If you need to reach them. It does

2669
02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:21,560
Speaker 1: not go to me NBC, so we're not going.

2670
02:02:21,680 --> 02:02:23,960
Speaker 2: And a reminder, you can also check out our Arnold

2671
02:02:24,080 --> 02:02:26,680
Speaker 2: Allen room service diaries. We shot three of them in

2672
02:02:26,720 --> 02:02:30,720
Speaker 2: the UK. Michael venimpage is coming out tomorrow and it's tremendous.

2673
02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:33,960
Speaker 2: Paul Craig is coming out in the near future and

2674
02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:38,080
Speaker 2: it arguably even better than Arnold Allen. It's debatable, Luke.

2675
02:02:38,120 --> 02:02:41,120
Speaker 2: We did with three fantastic interviews that I can't wait

2676
02:02:41,160 --> 02:02:43,040
Speaker 2: for the people to see. YouTube dot com.

2677
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, flash monk all very true. So there's that. Showtime

2678
02:02:47,160 --> 02:02:48,960
Speaker 1: dot Com is the label that pays Showtime dot Com

2679
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:50,600
Speaker 1: thirty day free trophy. Like it, you can keep it,

2680
02:02:50,640 --> 02:02:53,080
Speaker 1: If not, you can bounce and then, last but not least,

2681
02:02:53,120 --> 02:02:55,960
Speaker 1: of course, Morningcombat dot Store. We see any final thoughts.

2682
02:02:55,960 --> 02:02:58,360
Speaker 1: Before we conclude today's programming.

2683
02:02:58,440 --> 02:03:01,160
Speaker 2: I'd like to shout out Reggie Jackson for his appearance today, Luke.

2684
02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:04,640
Speaker 2: He's probably out in a litter box somewhere in the basement,

2685
02:03:04,720 --> 02:03:06,600
Speaker 2: but he's doing great in life. A big fan of

2686
02:03:06,640 --> 02:03:09,680
Speaker 2: that guy. So Lucy was great to recap the weekend

2687
02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:12,080
Speaker 2: with you. You know, these these Monday shows, these two

2688
02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:14,640
Speaker 2: hours shows are arguably the best two hours of my

2689
02:03:14,840 --> 02:03:15,360
Speaker 2: entire week.

2690
02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:18,600
Speaker 1: I wish I could say I feel the same.

2691
02:03:20,200 --> 02:03:24,200
Speaker 2: All Right, all right, I got a lot of I love.

2692
02:03:24,040 --> 02:03:25,880
Speaker 1: Today's show, but I'm ready for it to be over.

2693
02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:28,839
Speaker 1: Bec all right. So for Brian Campbell, for Reggie Jackson,

2694
02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:32,320
Speaker 1: for Malca, CBS Sports and Showtime, I'm Luke Thomas. That's

2695
02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:35,400
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, and until next time, may all of your

2696
02:03:35,480 --> 02:03:36,680
Speaker 1: gains be loyal.