WEBVTT - Michael Jackson’s Plastic Surgeries (with Rob Haze)

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<v Speaker 1>Yellowstone is just a massive super volcano that if it explodes,

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<v Speaker 1>will literally wipe out like our entire country. And on

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<v Speaker 1>average it explodes every like six thousand years, and we

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<v Speaker 1>are past the window of that happening, and it could

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<v Speaker 1>just happen at any time, and that that makes me.

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<v Speaker 2>Terrified, you know, sweet release, that's the thing. If it

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna like just wipe us out, I'll be chilling.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's what it's gonna do is like

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<v Speaker 1>blow up and just spread like the type of ash

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<v Speaker 1>that like kills you very slowly.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh right, Because I've heard people talk about like even

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<v Speaker 3>like when Mount Saint Helen's blood how it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>But if it's like a super volcano, because that's what

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<v Speaker 3>that's what you die, You suffocate from the ash in

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<v Speaker 3>the air.

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<v Speaker 2>Ultimately, Yeah, Manzilenski knows when it's gonna blow. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>you'll see yeah, you'll see you. But you don't tell

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<v Speaker 2>them when we want to be don't go.

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<v Speaker 4>As a racist stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell me.

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<v Speaker 5>At night, I dream of you. I want to be

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<v Speaker 5>your lady.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome my Mama's and gentiles alike to another phenomenal episode

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<v Speaker 5>of My Mama told me.

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<v Speaker 1>The podcast where we dopted deep into the pockets of

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<v Speaker 1>black conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 3>Theory and finally work to prove the conspiracies. We gotta

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<v Speaker 3>figure that last it out. Yeah, I guess is it because.

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<v Speaker 2>Not of them? This is Rob's.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's of everybody and Rob, We're so happy

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<v Speaker 1>you're here.

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<v Speaker 2>We've already broken the That was.

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<v Speaker 5>A terrible introduce.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't really an introduction. Yea, we didn't even finish

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<v Speaker 2>on man. I uh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we are here to prove all of the

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<v Speaker 1>possibilities of the world. I think that is that is

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<v Speaker 1>objectively what's true. Is it the best way to say it?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know yet, but I do think that that's.

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<v Speaker 2>What we're here hoping to prove.

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<v Speaker 5>I like that. Yeah, I'm into that, you know what

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<v Speaker 5>I've been Yeah, I'm just you know what I've been thinking. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you always set it up so uh poorly. I want

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<v Speaker 5>them to know what we're doing. I want them to

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<v Speaker 5>see how the little game.

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<v Speaker 3>I want them to see how much work goes into

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<v Speaker 3>making that delicious treat they like to eat once a

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<v Speaker 3>week on Tuesdays and Thursday.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, twice a week, twice a week. Once away twice

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<v Speaker 5>a week, week week.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever you listen to him.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I've been thinking, I think doctor Umar

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<v Speaker 3>is doing a press run because he's finally getting ready

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<v Speaker 3>to open that school.

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<v Speaker 5>WHOA what I think?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see him speak and like, uh, he was

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<v Speaker 2>at a school University of Michigan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Alma mother.

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<v Speaker 5>I wish, I wish I would have I would have

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<v Speaker 5>bought a plane ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was like what was he like Black Queen's

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<v Speaker 2>Forever and the whole crowd was like snowbody. He like

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<v Speaker 2>found his audience. Have you It was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so crazy because I did not know niggas

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<v Speaker 1>were like that tapped into him like in catchphrase form

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<v Speaker 1>at eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought it was like our joke, like younger

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<v Speaker 2>kids are like joking about this. Now. That's my question

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<v Speaker 2>is do you think they were joking? I think I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's winks between them. Yes, I think some people

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<v Speaker 2>there probably will finding truth like we're we're laughing but

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<v Speaker 2>a good point. Yeah, there's other people that are like

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<v Speaker 2>that was hilarious. Yeah, I have a test to study

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<v Speaker 2>for it. You know, that would be a great college experience.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like doctor Umar spoke.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, Uh, so many people that they had come

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<v Speaker 1>perform at our at our school. Yeah, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>replaced any one of them with doctor Umar.

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<v Speaker 2>You have any good ones they have?

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<v Speaker 1>I had amazing onesell money back during like the Robot

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<v Speaker 1>that was big.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we Sean before Big Sean became Big Sean, so

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<v Speaker 1>on some real like hungry selling it. But we also

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<v Speaker 1>knew he had already been tapped by Kanye.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he just wasn't.

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<v Speaker 5>That's that's it's an exciting right.

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<v Speaker 2>It was when Big Sean was doing individual merch for

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<v Speaker 2>every school he went to. Yeah, I remember his website

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, he had a thing. He was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>am finally famous, and you write in and then maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he'd put you up on the blog. And I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>one year in the comedy and I.

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<v Speaker 6>Wrote het like opening for Ronnie Jordan's and how like

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<v Speaker 6>I am finally so embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>That permanent. He No, he didn't pick me up. I

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<v Speaker 2>went to the University of Georgia. We had conflict Free

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<v Speaker 2>Christepe Michelle. Really, we had Tree Songs. We had t Paine, Damn,

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<v Speaker 2>we had Godfree. He didn't tell us James Avery was gay.

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<v Speaker 2>He just kept that in the talking O seven. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he really got in trouble. You were really mad at guy.

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<v Speaker 2>You furious at Godfrey for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that I had always treated that as relatively common.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was a cat that was out of

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<v Speaker 2>the bag and like just a rumor that people have

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<v Speaker 2>been saying. And yeah, I don't know what point of

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<v Speaker 2>an interview gets to that, Like, I've been in here

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<v Speaker 2>several times and I've never gotten to the point where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, but tell us about uncle Phil. Yeah, to

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<v Speaker 2>the point of like you know who's gay?

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<v Speaker 5>Supermon when you're like the boy where they're like, all right, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, you gotta come clean. I won't see it too.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're the one to come clean, Godfrey. We didn't

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<v Speaker 5>ask you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I can't imagine. The story was weird.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the other thing. The story wasn't like I

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<v Speaker 2>walked in on James Avery having sex. It wasn't like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing voice work for teenage Turtles. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>whoa shredder?

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<v Speaker 5>Like.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like that. It was just like I went

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<v Speaker 2>to the Gospel of Awards and he was using his

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<v Speaker 2>hands a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't think that's it, man. I think he

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<v Speaker 5>might just be kind. I'm like the theater. I think

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<v Speaker 5>he's like a talented actor.

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<v Speaker 2>He just sees someone he hadn't seen it a long.

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<v Speaker 5>Time, watching Godfrey use his hands a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, the rumormeil has started, Folks, we don't run from

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<v Speaker 1>it here, that's what it's poor our guest today. You've

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<v Speaker 1>already heard him tell phenomenal stories about Godfrey and the like.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a hilarious comedian, a dear friend. We love him

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<v Speaker 1>so much on this podcast. You've seen him on The

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight Show, You've seen him on Comedy Central. He currently

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<v Speaker 1>is writing for a brand new show called Little keV

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<v Speaker 1>that you can watch everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Now is everywhere? I missed that? They're all out all

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<v Speaker 2>the episode that the episodes. Yeah, you can watch Little

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<v Speaker 2>keV on BT plus. He's the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Give it up for Rob Hayes, ladies. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't shout him out. Nothing cool Runnings that darn cat.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Cosby Cosby, he was on the Like when it

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<v Speaker 3>was just the show without show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was just here was the number two on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe I ain't even above Felicia Side in the

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<v Speaker 2>same it's Bill Cosey, Felicie and and Dougie Dog.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're not the Huxtables. It's like they're not Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they're just people. Are they still in Brooklyn?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where they are. I know Buster Rhymes

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<v Speaker 2>is in it. I want to say they were in Philly.

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<v Speaker 2>They might have been in Phild. It was on CBS

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<v Speaker 2>a time where I didn't go over there, no.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, because all there was was like Becker like Jack yeah, yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>did not have anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember maybe Walker, Texas Ranger, Nash Bridges.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe I watched that ship on Packs Okay remember Packs?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, if you didn't have a cable, it was like

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<v Speaker 3>it was like a pseudo Christian channel, like it was

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<v Speaker 3>next in Atlanta they played Hawks games.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how bad the Hawks were. They were.

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<v Speaker 5>Watching and watching Touch by an Angel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Packs was trash damn. I like when Pack's first

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<v Speaker 2>drift they had like night Rider and like yeah, cool stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And the transferred to being inspirational like a little later,

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<v Speaker 3>early past the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way to Heaven. They was like, yo, man, we found I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know what our I guess we we. I never

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<v Speaker 1>had to go through the Christian channel enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all didn't need pey.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you're right, Yeah, yeah, because you UPN was

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<v Speaker 1>a regular ass channel, and in that way you avoid

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of like the heartbreak that would have come

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<v Speaker 1>from right.

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<v Speaker 5>We had up N too. UPN was the go to.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like the years and then the WB secondary

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<v Speaker 5>I was the ABC, then UPN and then like ABC

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<v Speaker 5>like TGI Friday Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that was good and that you know, there were enough.

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<v Speaker 1>This was back when they would like replay episodes throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the week, right right, syndicated. Yeah, you got to watch

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of Rkle on Friday, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>watch Urkle a few more other days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It was nice. Yeah, but Friday got a new.

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<v Speaker 2>Racle got that.

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<v Speaker 3>New Yeah, he's a robot Friday, He's a Bruce Lee.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like the was excited.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I was for an rclizer, Like I remember

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<v Speaker 5>thinking about it like the week up right, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>because it'd be like, oh, in all New Family Matters,

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<v Speaker 5>Racles going Chinese or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I was waiting they pitched it. Yeah, I was I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna handle it.

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<v Speaker 5>I realized I had dug a hole for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot about that because like, yeah, no, Malcolm and

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<v Speaker 2>Eddie when they announced that, like Eddie Griffin was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do Prince, it was like a whole building and I

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<v Speaker 2>remember like, oh, man, I can't wait to see you

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<v Speaker 2>can't wait being Prince crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>And how Malcolm's gonna hate right right, We're not supposed

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<v Speaker 5>to have prints in a tow truck. Wasn't that the

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<v Speaker 5>pharmacy show that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a restaurant. Yeah, it was like a restaurant, club,

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<v Speaker 2>bar slash.

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<v Speaker 3>It was Malcolmic Eddie had he was always making jokes

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<v Speaker 3>about stuff he had in the truck.

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<v Speaker 1>Slash my Ani's office.

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<v Speaker 2>One stop shot.

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<v Speaker 5>That's literally what the episodes would be.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember is that somebody would.

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<v Speaker 1>Drop their car off to Eddie, I need you to

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<v Speaker 1>fix my car, and he'd be like, ship, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>fix that car. You gotta go chill in the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then and then Mary J. Blige would walk

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<v Speaker 2>in the restaurant like what's wrong with that guy?

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<v Speaker 1>He's not a good Mechnny I was like, what the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck are you here?

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<v Speaker 5>That would be how they got you in the week

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<v Speaker 5>two though, was like on an all new Malcolm and Eddie,

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<v Speaker 5>you stopping and she's just like doing real love with

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<v Speaker 5>the like because I remember thinking that, Like I remember

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<v Speaker 5>always thinking. I was like, musicians have music videos, they're

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<v Speaker 5>obviously incredible actors, Like I would want to see them

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<v Speaker 5>in morning. Yeah, I saw a Fast and Furious because

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<v Speaker 5>of Joe Rule.

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<v Speaker 2>I was disappointed the yo, they fucked us, so he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a big pull for trailer. Trailer makes this

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<v Speaker 2>scene like it's his movie. The trailer does all the

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<v Speaker 2>things that he does. You think it's his family.

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<v Speaker 7>You think it's their own family, and they like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like you don't see him anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, yo, he says these people, he says three

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<v Speaker 5>things in that movie. He says three things in that movie.

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<v Speaker 5>He saysnaja, And you're like, this is about to be

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<v Speaker 5>in the performance. He's such a good actor.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he says, Monica, isn't it that he races

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<v Speaker 2>Vin Diesel and loses.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a girl walks in the race, Yes, a

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<v Speaker 3>girl walks up though she says, you know you she's

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<v Speaker 3>I remember the show. She's like, you know, if you win,

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<v Speaker 3>you could have all of this, or if you lose

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<v Speaker 3>you can have this anyways, but if you win you

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<v Speaker 3>get hurt too, and then she takes his hand and

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<v Speaker 3>puts it on her titty and that's why when he

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<v Speaker 3>kicks on the NOSS, he says, manage.

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<v Speaker 1>But they were like, it's not clear he gets the

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<v Speaker 1>fut the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the world where they had that scene to

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<v Speaker 2>make him say makes it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, whoa, you gotta fix man. We've studied car races.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like a traditional yell. Didn't you do it again?

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<v Speaker 5>He's like, I like to think he said, like five

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<v Speaker 5>other things that didn't make sense was what they had

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<v Speaker 5>to build.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, say that job the same girl.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Not remember joh Rule's uh heavily featured appearance in the

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<v Speaker 1>trailer he does they kill him off from the entire

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<v Speaker 1>fucking because they didn't bring him back and they never.

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<v Speaker 2>Run him back. He's in the world. Yeah, this in

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<v Speaker 2>the world.

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<v Speaker 5>Yea, his name is Edwin.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, don't literally hurt you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I saw the movie such as So Permanent

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<v Speaker 2>for You, Paul Walker and Vin Diesel got me through

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<v Speaker 2>and driving under trucks for DVD players like I got

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<v Speaker 2>through it, but I missed when they were just yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was better doing the Space and it starts with

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<v Speaker 2>you steal in the DVD player.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what they sold us.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't stealing. He wasn't stealing fucking eight tracks.

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<v Speaker 2>That need to go to Space. Ye you think he's

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<v Speaker 2>hold your breath.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, the DVD things.

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<v Speaker 3>Stealing DVDs didn't make sense because even when that movie

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<v Speaker 3>came out, they already had like DVD players at Walmart, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like he was already like a commodity, right been.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that movie had me looking under cars for the

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<v Speaker 2>longest to see like like, when is there I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to see a truck that does have a tire under it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeahs big as eighteen wheel trucks have at least one tire.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, And you're saying, somehow they've only they

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<v Speaker 1>found trucks.

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<v Speaker 2>They found trucks that you could drive a whole car

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<v Speaker 2>is underneath, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 5>Also a lot of nods I had never heard about.

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<v Speaker 5>Noting that became a.

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<v Speaker 2>Streak, It became an energy, Yeah, it did becoming Do

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<v Speaker 2>you want the effects of noss?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you want the effects of knots? But you ain't

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<v Speaker 5>got a driver's license?

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<v Speaker 2>You think they're ever energy drinks for rich people. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like we all got the same.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they're separate everything for people.

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<v Speaker 2>You think, so, I think rich energy drinks is like

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<v Speaker 2>an expresso. But like I feel like we don't like

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<v Speaker 2>the juice, crunk juice.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Celsius for a while was in private eye spaces.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's real. And then and I think you

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<v Speaker 2>and your friends were drinking crunk juice for some time.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes because I'm from Atlanta though.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you weren't drinking Celsius. Okay, I think the remaining

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<v Speaker 1>but I think both are true.

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<v Speaker 2>Every like little waiting room in Atlanta had a crunk juice.

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<v Speaker 1>Fridge man, so they really. I think I've seen crunk

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<v Speaker 1>juice three times in my Yeah, it was like readily available.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know, you go other places and there's

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<v Speaker 1>like like cucumbers and water, a little crook juice.

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<v Speaker 2>Free that's crazy, you know, on tap and sparkling a

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<v Speaker 2>room town like a hot juice please. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>like red Bull or any other thing, you know, except

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<v Speaker 2>for like endorse my Little John Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and this is my own negative judgment. I

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<v Speaker 1>would have expected it to be sweet, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably it's probably a little like they did have flavors,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, and they were like, it was probably worse

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<v Speaker 2>for you for some reason. I think it's all you

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<v Speaker 2>got some poison in there, so I was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>drink all that crib too much? Is this had racist

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<v Speaker 2>yours of the the Sun's mascot, which is it's a

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<v Speaker 2>gorilla for some reason, and looking a basketball and you're

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<v Speaker 2>a black man wearing a gorilla on your hat. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't believe they made it. I can't believe, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>passed like a lot of Unfortunately, the Trump administration is

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<v Speaker 2>put a lot on the docket that we haven't gotten around.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we don't this. I think in the right

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<v Speaker 2>window of time, this hat would have been out of

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<v Speaker 2>the paint. Yeah, it's crazy, it's nut.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in a fucking in a in a truly

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<v Speaker 1>egalitarian world, the gorilla would have been eliminated by now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's doesn't make anything around so long. It's really crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>No gorillas in Phoenix. There's no gorillas. It's just they

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<v Speaker 2>just wanted to make them mony.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, black people playing basketball. Monkey damn Phoenix a

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<v Speaker 1>monkey in a Jersey.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's see if they'll let that. Let us do this

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<v Speaker 5>is the place that it would go through though. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>where it's like who's going to vote?

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<v Speaker 2>Again? We don't live there. It's gotta be awkward when

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<v Speaker 2>the when the gorilla guys like takes this stuff off

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<v Speaker 2>and like you know, might make eye contact with like

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<v Speaker 2>KD or something and just like, hey, dude, I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>make man, I know what it is, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>no judge me. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>They should have just got it. They could have got anything.

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<v Speaker 2>They could have got anything, anything that lives in the desert.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, a get go your sonhead, just do.

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<v Speaker 2>A here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the thing mascots are. I think they gritty is

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<v Speaker 3>one thing. But I think for the most party, the

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<v Speaker 3>better mascots are like sexier. Now like a son is

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<v Speaker 3>too it's too cumbered, cumbers you mean, just ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>And that regular.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can do whatever you want with the body

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<v Speaker 1>the premises, son. All you have to do is have

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<v Speaker 1>a head that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>You do what you can do. You know what I

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<v Speaker 2>would do.

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<v Speaker 5>I would make it a cool guy named Ray Ray. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>because Rays Okay, he's got some glasses on. I got

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<v Speaker 5>you just like Raphael. Wow, No, that's not all that's.

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<v Speaker 1>He just got love is a cool nigga.

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<v Speaker 2>Spoke a long cigarette basketball, Rob.

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<v Speaker 1>You you came to us today with a conspiracy and

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<v Speaker 1>we eventually have to talk conspiracy theory at some point

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<v Speaker 1>at some point, But you came to us with a conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 1>I personally have never heard anybody say before either.

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<v Speaker 2>This is exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>This bill is very personal in a way that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited to hear you unpack.

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<v Speaker 2>You said, my mama told.

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<v Speaker 1>Me Michael Jackson never got unnecessary surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us everything you know and believe I.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So, as you guys know, I keep a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of knowledge about out music and stuff, to the point

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<v Speaker 2>where the algorithm just feeds me stuff. If there's ever

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<v Speaker 2>a new resurface video Michael Jackson, it will hit my feed.

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<v Speaker 1>First, Okay, your first responder for Michael Jackson videos.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm there's never been a time where like somebody sent

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<v Speaker 2>me a Michael Jackson video and then I've been like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I never seen this one before. It's normally like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen that. Look at this part. You know. So

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<v Speaker 2>I've been starting to get truther Michael Jackson's content coming

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<v Speaker 2>to me. WHOA Now I will I will tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that I found out earlier today, some of the pictures

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<v Speaker 2>that I've been getting.

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<v Speaker 5>How did you? How did you find out?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was like, I was like making sure I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't just make up. Yeah, But then I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh man, there are people that are out here debunking

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<v Speaker 2>some of the studio. I picture that when you said it.

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<v Speaker 1>I pictured your wife whispering it in your ear, like

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<v Speaker 1>that man did for George Bush when he found out.

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<v Speaker 2>About all she gave. We lost the town. So the

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<v Speaker 2>thing is, sometimes I'll get the like I would believe

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<v Speaker 2>them if they had separated them, But all the videos

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<v Speaker 2>I get are like, nah, it's one thing. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't bleach his skin and he didn't have any

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<v Speaker 2>unnecessary surgery. It's like that's a lot to tackle in

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<v Speaker 2>one video.

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<v Speaker 3>Your Instagram limit like three minutes, Come on, I need

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<v Speaker 3>at least ten right.

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<v Speaker 2>Cover more. It's not so there's people that believe that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Jackson the fire, the Pepsi commercial, right, which is

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<v Speaker 2>like triggered is he's his loopis?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this like eighty four early eighty four triggered his

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<v Speaker 2>loopis And then basically that's what causes like some of

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<v Speaker 2>the like red disccoloration that you see in his skin,

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<v Speaker 2>and then after that he also has vill aligo, which

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<v Speaker 2>my father told me he made up. My father didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even believe Villa lago was the thing. Oh, he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even believe he was. My dad didn't believe in the

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<v Speaker 2>premise of no disease. He was like Michael Jackson, like

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<v Speaker 2>because when you're a kid, you're like, you're looking at

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Jackson and then your parents are either like he's

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<v Speaker 2>black or you're like, oh man, like he's white, and

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<v Speaker 2>then your parents are cracking up or whatever. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>my parents had we had that discussion. I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what happened? How did he end up like this? And

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<v Speaker 2>my dad's like, he made up some disease bill a

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<v Speaker 2>lago with something I don't know, and it's I always

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<v Speaker 2>like remember that in my head, like, oh man, Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson so powerful. He made up a disease.

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<v Speaker 5>That's how you thought about it, was like he's so powerful.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, you're a cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>Room for thirteen seconds, broke up a disease. He walked backwards.

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<v Speaker 2>Litter sucks. They don't sell him at Walmart.

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<v Speaker 5>That's true. That was a crazy thing. To come out

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<v Speaker 5>with like litter sock technologies.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, just the high socks alone with such a

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous decision.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, he's wearing those like captain's tassels on his shoulders

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<v Speaker 5>and he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Walking with it with an army of people would come on.

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<v Speaker 1>About his style up, everything about his style would have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten him literally murdered in Gary, Indiana.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he found a way too.

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<v Speaker 5>He's just like a motorcycle motorcycle motorcycler, like that's meant

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<v Speaker 5>the motorcycle itself. And he just had like bondage girl.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked insane, bad, Yeah, crazy, I think, yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere impossible, he did the impossible, and so you believe

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<v Speaker 1>the disease could have been more proof of his amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Power, right right. But then later people were saying he

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<v Speaker 2>bleached his skin, and then I find these videos saying

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't bleach his skin.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there was a pretty big window of time in

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<v Speaker 1>between you finding these videos and everything else you knew,

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<v Speaker 1>right right right. I think you really rushed that middle

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<v Speaker 1>part and I would say that was all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of your adult.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that big chunk that you skipped over was all

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the years of just common sense building over time.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to believe it. I think they knew that

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<v Speaker 2>deep down there some people that wanted to be like

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Jackson woke up one day and was like, what

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<v Speaker 2>happened to me? Oh my god? Yeah, oh man, I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta call this Taylor and tell her like, I'm different.

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<v Speaker 1>Those people scare me anybody else, because because look, I

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 1>love Michael Jackson, I do not I recognize that that

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<v Speaker 1>at the very least, what he was doing was completely

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 1>unhealthy and inappropriate with those children. What scale it went

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>to is not anything I'll ever know, and I think,

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 1>frankly any of us will ever know, right, I think objectively,

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>he did bad things with those kids just by spending

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>the type of time he was spending it with them.

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 5>You don't want any grown man hanging out with your kids.

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 2>No, it's nasty.

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:47.640
<v Speaker 1>It's a nasty, weird thing to do, chill out right,

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:50.919
<v Speaker 1>regardless of what their childhood was or it's just like,

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 1>that's like a line. I cannot undo my relationship with

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the music, with the sort of joy that he represented

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:02.439
<v Speaker 1>for me. So Michael Jackson remained, I'm sorry that said

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the the idea that you you are so wanting him

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>to be a god that you you pretend he didn't

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:13.399
<v Speaker 1>fuck up his nose fell off.

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.439
<v Speaker 3>I think he's just some people's Trump. I think he

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 3>was like I think that's true in the same way

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 3>some people just Trump can't do anything wrong. I think

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 3>he can't.

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 2>He's trying to hit notes. One surgery, that's all I

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:28.880
<v Speaker 2>give you. One. Yeah, that's it. That's it.

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 5>What about late Michael though?

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:34.640
<v Speaker 3>What you mean like like maybe they didn't do it

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 3>right and then it just got lighter and lighter and light.

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 2>One surgery, that's all I give you.

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 5>That's man, that's tough. That's all you believe in is

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 5>one surgery.

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 2>One surgery.

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 5>Okay, let's talk about that was the one surgeon.

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Let's take it break. Let's on a cliffhanger. I believes

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 1>that there was one surgery that changed everything for Michael

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Jackson and everything else is just God. I've supposed doing

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 1>what he does to the King of pop Is that

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>our argument? Yeah, Okay, when we come back from this break,

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 1>we are going to find out what that that supposed

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>surgery is. This is very exciting, a beautiful Cliffhanter. We'll

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>be back more Rob Hayes more. Ma Mama told me.

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 5>We're not gonna let Joe Biden and Kamala Harris cut

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 5>America's me.

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 2>That's that only it's almost like this guy is some

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 2>We're back, We're back, that's it. Rob. Rob is still here.

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Rob is still trying to convince us one surgery that

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson only had one surgery. Please, Rob, if you

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>will tell us what that one surgery was, he told.

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Us he had the one surgery so you can hear

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 2>higher notes on his nose. He told Martin Basheer that

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 2>when Martin Vasheer went in his house unannounced and you know,

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 2>caused all these problems for my man, Mike.

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 5>Martin really acted up on that interview.

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know, we didn't even ask for that.

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 2>We're just chilling out of nowhere. It's like, I spent

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 2>this time with Michael Jackson. Now we see him holding

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 2>hands with some kid and stuff, climbing trees. We need

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 2>to see none of that Jackson. Yeah, come on, man,

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 2>the British media, man, they know what they did.

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 6>So uh.

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 2>You know like like basically, okay, Michael Jackson, y'all know Icarus, right, yeah,

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 2>you only go so close to the sun. Well you

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying your wings start melting. Michael Jackson's

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 2>seeing heights weed never seen. She spun more than probably

0:30:56.480 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 2>anybody's ever spun, just like physically, so probably some of

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 2>that knows some of that color guy went off in

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 2>the spin.

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 5>I bet it was in the atmosphere.

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 2>You think he spun so fast that it literally just like,

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 2>have we ever seen anybody else spind like that? Why

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 2>did Berry saying this? Quit early? He is getting too light?

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Am I looking lighter? Verry gotta stock?

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to live in Detroit. You're not the

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 4>man I married. This game is ruining on family.

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 2>You don't even look like your son anymore.

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 5>He said, you know me, I spin because Barry does

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 5>you married?

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, come on, man, that's what I'm hoping.

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Here's what I'm thinking, and I don't. I'm not loving

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying so far. But it did introduce at

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>least a challenge that I've never faced before. What was

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>the first day that Mike came back that color?

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 3>It had to be wik Yeah, because you are a

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 3>great timeline for this. Yea, yeah, what's the album timeline? Okay,

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 3>it's dangerous.

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 5>He was all the way right dangerous is all the

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 5>way white. It's all the way white, right right, right?

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 5>And then what's the is bad that before that Bad? Yeah,

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 5>so it's between thriller and Bad. Thriller comes out late

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 5>eighty two, they shoot the videos that eighty three, the

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 5>awards is eighty four.

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>And by Thriller, he's already got a new nose, right, Yeah,

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Now you don't have to acknowledge where that nose came from,

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>but you do acknowledge that nose was not the nose

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 1>we started with.

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 2>That's not the nose we started with, okay, Right, he's

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 2>also making plays with the hair. Yeah, well they I mean,

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 2>that's just hair at the time, right, the hair.

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 5>The hair just.

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Crazy to us because we grew up in a hip

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 2>hop fade era, But like that was hair at the

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 2>time that a lot.

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Of baby hairs on bad I think I think it

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>started to transition from any version of Africanized hair, right

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and started to transition into a fine Latina woman.

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, some type of a Cariban do this, So okay,

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 2>So the Pepsi shoot early eighty four, the hairs burned,

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.959
<v Speaker 2>So now you gotta start experimenting with wigs. They probably

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 2>don't make Jered Curle wigs. You know what I'm saying,

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 2>So the technolay hair texture might be different. And also

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 2>we don't know what grew back and what didn't grow back,

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, like these are these are some of the

0:33:56.960 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 2>secrets that Mike might have all always had a bald spot.

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 2>After that, we really don't know, you know what I'm saying.

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I will say, like eighty five, when he gets the

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Grammy for uh, We Are the World, he looked different.

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 5>He in that We Are of the World documentary.

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 2>When they recorded We Are the World, that's somebody that

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.879
<v Speaker 2>we know. But then when he came back to get

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:26.240
<v Speaker 2>the Grammy, he looked different. You know what I'm saying.

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 1>The recording he is he is clearly still black.

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he's doing a lot.

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 5>It's it's starting.

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 2>To separate himself. That's how from it.

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 1>And then to your point, by the time they accept

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the award, that's a brand new person.

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Now my issue is.

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Why and maybe it just speaks to how talented this

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 1>man was that he could come back a different color

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and everybody's just like, yeah.

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 2>No, we accept that. As Michael Jackson.

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:57.919
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, he still came back strong as dog.

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 5>But look how crazy it couldn't exist nowadays.

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I think, bro, we're calling Jamie Fox a clone, and

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 1>the nigga ain't changed one bit.

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean that that's true.

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:15.399
<v Speaker 1>Michael could come back a whole white woman and we'd

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 1>be like, yeah, it's Michael Jackson. That's the most famous

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 1>man that's ever lived.

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:24.360
<v Speaker 5>Has anyone ever done a bigger change?

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Not? Not not at that scale. Sammy Sosa, I would say, made.

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 2>And it's the same. I don't think anybody's ever done something,

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:39.439
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, like where it's like, oh,

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 2>then they change a bones. That's crazy, you know what

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, Like like that was like we we they

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:49.360
<v Speaker 2>probably never seen anything like that. There was probably some

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 2>people that There's also been things that people have been saying,

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.280
<v Speaker 2>like you know, like they were switching up the makeup

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 2>so you see him, you'll see him like uh in

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:02.359
<v Speaker 2>rehearsal footage and stuff be darker than when you see

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 2>him performing stuff. And so like some some of it's

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 2>some like little Richard action going on, you know what

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. And then also but I mean maybe it's

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 2>like years and years of all different types of makeup,

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 2>all different types of foundation, all different spins, you know,

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:24.360
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, you make this stuff together. They started

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 2>changing Mike Mike down. The paint is coming in and

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Teddy Riley did dangerous you know what I'm saying. He

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 2>took us to Egypt. Don't think hein you know what

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. Don't think Michael Jackson a shame of who

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 2>he is, where he came from. Johnson was in there,

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 2>and probably some people on edge about it, you know

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 5>But like, yeah, they debuted that on box.

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Naomi Kimball wasn't Naomi Kimball was in the keep it,

0:36:58.480 --> 0:36:59.959
<v Speaker 1>keep It in the closet and in the clock.

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:00.439
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like people really don't let that.

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 5>That's a very formative video for me.

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, the beat is great, the video is great.

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 2>I really don't understand what the song is saying.

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:12.879
<v Speaker 5>No, that's not the point.

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 2>What are you doing? Yeah, oh well that's about being

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 2>a crib exactly. Rip picture is real, you know a

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 2>picture I've always wondered. He is real. And I feel

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 2>like you're the one asked the.

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 5>One where he's got the bottle and the two little ladies,

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 5>the two little the little people ladies.

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:37.839
<v Speaker 2>I know what you man?

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:39.879
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Clearly, I'm not the person to verify stuff is real

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 2>or not, but I've seen it. Yeah, I would love

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 2>to know the story.

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 5>Mean, I think about that a lot.

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:52.400
<v Speaker 2>I say that picture like it's it's clearly somebody like

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 2>opened the door and took a picture and he looking

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.319
<v Speaker 2>stressed out and it's like a lady right there by

0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 2>the bed or whatever.

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is what you're talking about with this where

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:08.400
<v Speaker 1>he's drinking with Yeah, you're.

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Familiar with this.

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 3>I tried to put it on a hoodie, but Zazzle

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:12.719
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't let me do it.

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:16.280
<v Speaker 2>What does that mean? You know, be in charge of hoodies?

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Know that those websites where you could like make your

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 3>own hoodie, they were like this images and yeah they could.

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't do that.

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:24.919
<v Speaker 5>I also try to do one with my new ball

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 5>in the swimming pool. They woul't let me do that.

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 5>That's a good that would be a cool on a hoodie.

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 5>I would be a great Yeah you should get embroidered.

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 5>I bet they don't have the same mom.

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:34.919
<v Speaker 2>So he's got like a like a forty I thought

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:36.879
<v Speaker 2>you meant like a baby bottle and I was like.

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 7>That's intensitive. Yeah, he's not. He's like these my people. No,

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 7>he looks a little Denise and that's a little Mariah.

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:52.239
<v Speaker 2>He looks so comfortable. See it again. Yeah, he looks great.

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:54.319
<v Speaker 5>That's like happier than I feel like he looks at

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 5>most people.

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 1>They look comfy, he looks happy.

0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we don't know them, man, he was in our kind.

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:04.399
<v Speaker 2>We don't know. We don't know. Because when he died

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:08.240
<v Speaker 2>they found thirty six bottles of bleaching creams. That doesn't

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.880
<v Speaker 2>mean that he used them on his skin.

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 1>So here this is I think where we get into

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 1>some of the the my concerns.

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, and you feel free to tag in wherever.

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I just I did a quick google of just how

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 1>what surgeries Michael Jackson underwent, and they said he will

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 1>underwent multiple plastic surgery procedures throughout his life.

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Here's a timeline of the surgery. It's all Amelia for

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 2>his proper game, just saying real. Early eighties.

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 1>They say that he had rhinoplasty, no surgery to reduce

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the size of his nose. Yeah, early eighties, so it

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>would have to be before the PEPSI. They also said

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:53.879
<v Speaker 1>that he started skin bleaching due to his vitiligo come

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:56.840
<v Speaker 1>on that that really was because of the skin condition.

0:39:57.280 --> 0:40:00.800
<v Speaker 1>And I have seen interviews with his mom. She says

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>that he his bleaching was so severe, not his active bleaching,

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 1>but like the bleaching of his skin from videligo was

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 1>so severe, mostly under his clothes, which is why he

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:17.800
<v Speaker 1>started wearing long sleeves everywhere. Which is why he started

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 1>wearing the glove. Was because it was like starting to spread.

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 1>It started in his chest and then spread throughout his bod.

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:26.839
<v Speaker 5>I'm so sad, man, we would have took it. If

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 5>you'd have just been like I'm Michael Jackson, I got

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 5>we would.

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Have took it. He could have winn harlowed that ship.

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 2>But there was no Winny Harlow like like that. I mean,

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:37.800
<v Speaker 2>I think about that all the time. But I also

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<v Speaker 2>think that like he he would he would have had

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 2>the like really just I don't know. I feel like

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 2>the eighties was mean and he would have had to

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 2>take you know what I'm saying. I think I think

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 2>like he would have took it would have been all

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of jokes. He would have took all kind of

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 2>He would have took a lot.

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 3>But he you take a lot, but just leave me alone.

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 5>Another great song.

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>The body, Yeah, come on, it was like the sledgehammer

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 3>video from that rock and roll man. But he did

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:20.360
<v Speaker 3>take so much from it, right yeah, Like do you

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 3>think I don't think he would have taken more had

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 3>he let it rock than that had he gone to

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:25.960
<v Speaker 3>the Lake City went to.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, But I do feel like, you know, that

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 2>is that is the tricky thing about trying to alter

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:37.760
<v Speaker 2>your appearance, and especially for like the perception of others.

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's a great comedy specially about that same

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:45.279
<v Speaker 2>thing called front You guys should check it out. But

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:47.799
<v Speaker 2>it is the curse of that thing where you're like,

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:50.800
<v Speaker 2>you're you're doing this thing and then you know, the

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 2>goal of altering your appearance is you know, acceptance, acceptance,

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes reaching for that is what you know, totally

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 2>get you extracise, totally get you unaccepted. You know. But

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 2>I think his experience was so bugged out already that

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:16.279
<v Speaker 2>it probably you know, I think that's why he was

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 2>able to be so drastic, because it's like I have

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 2>dirafts in my front yard. My life is already different,

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. Like I've been I've been

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 2>taking care of this whole family since I was eleven, Like,

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:35.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, my life is just different. So then it's

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 2>just also like okay, if I you know, it might

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 2>be a physical manifestation of that of like, hey, when

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 2>you see me, No, I'm not the same, because I'm

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:45.240
<v Speaker 2>not the same.

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean it's something crazy.

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:53.359
<v Speaker 1>And in keeping your name the same, having gone from

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the brokest human being alive in Gary, Indiana, you know

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, like nothing literally no opportunity, no dream,

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 1>no way of accessing anything, right, and then suddenly becoming

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:09.360
<v Speaker 1>an ascended human to the point that you are gotten,

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Like people pass out when you walk into a room, right, Like, no,

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 1>and you kept the name the same, right, No, I

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 1>have to change something to be able to demonstrate the transformation.

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Of it and the timeline on that. Right, the eighties

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:26.360
<v Speaker 3>would have seemed when it was the most he was

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 3>the most affected by that, right, Like, that's the biggest

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 3>transition in his like, because that's when he goes from

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:35.759
<v Speaker 3>like I that's when it becomes icon. Right, Yeah, the

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 3>eighties is king of Bop.

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:39.959
<v Speaker 1>I think that Jackson five were massive, but I don't

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 1>think that they were like, I don't imagine that they

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:47.400
<v Speaker 1>were permanent in the people's minds of like, oh, this

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 1>group will be with us forever and always types.

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:53.439
<v Speaker 3>And they were were they international, Like Thriller to Bad

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:56.879
<v Speaker 3>is like that's like that's I think that's become Now

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 3>you're a legend, You're a living legend.

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think that, like the the Jackson

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Five are in, you know, are popular, but they thought

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<v Speaker 2>of as a novelty and they're put in a box

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 2>with other kids groups. I think the stuff he did

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 2>with the Jackson's when they went to Philly and gambling,

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 2>huff and stuff like some of that stuff kind of

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:19.799
<v Speaker 2>solidified them as in the mix in an R and

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 2>B context, right, And then when you know, when basically

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Off the Wall gets shunned from major category, Grammy's kind

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 2>of the same fight, Beyonce. You know, it's fighting, and

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:36.880
<v Speaker 2>so many black artists fight as far as like like

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:41.279
<v Speaker 2>acceptance overall the entire music industry. That's when it's like,

0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 2>let's go pop, let's put gold on the jacket, let's

0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:49.279
<v Speaker 2>go for it. And then they did it, and they

0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:52.320
<v Speaker 2>did it so well. It was like the biggest album ever.

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:56.760
<v Speaker 2>And now it's like, yeah, it gets it gets nuts.

0:44:56.840 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense, that sense.

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he had to to your point, he had

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:05.839
<v Speaker 1>to make some changes. Yeah, do at least I'm not

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 1>saying he had to.

0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying that, like I feel, I feel for

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Michael Jackson sometimes and I feel like, you know, I

0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 2>feel like, yeah, now with the twenty twenty five lens,

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 2>we can be like, yes, he could have done so

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 2>much for other people who had Villa Lago and like

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 2>could have been transparent and that could have been the

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:31.600
<v Speaker 2>next you know, like you know, instead of you know,

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:33.919
<v Speaker 2>he could have been vulnerable. He could have he could

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 2>have showed us blah blah blah. But also I think,

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:42.960
<v Speaker 2>like that's a lot to ask somebody who you know, probably.

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:45.080
<v Speaker 5>It also wasn't a wave like it is now right

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 5>to do good, to.

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Be vulnerable, toable. It was still to be a good person.

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:54.399
<v Speaker 2>Like none of that was cool back then.

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:59.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think it's not until recently and then

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:01.880
<v Speaker 1>it's it's all so now died. But it wasn't until

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:05.879
<v Speaker 1>recently that we actually wanted our heroes to be human.

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 5>Right, know what I mean, I don't even know if

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 5>we actually do.

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:09.640
<v Speaker 2>No, that's what I mean.

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I think we killed it off immediately because we saw

0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of human qualities and all of these people

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:16.840
<v Speaker 1>and we were like, oh no, no, no, this is

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:20.560
<v Speaker 1>fucking awful. Go back to being right completely separate from us,

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 1>and now we can't figure out a way to put

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 1>that back in. We wanted desperately to go away, and

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:29.959
<v Speaker 1>we can't fix it anymore. But no, I think Michael Jackson, yeah,

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:33.439
<v Speaker 1>he was. He grew up in an era where there

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 1>are gods and there are men, and he was a

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 1>god and he could not show that vulnerability as a god.

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:44.880
<v Speaker 2>That said, there are many other surgeries I'd love to

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:48.800
<v Speaker 2>cover with you. That's why.

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess in the mid eighties he apparently had additional

0:46:56.719 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 1>rhinoplasty and cheek augmentation.

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:01.799
<v Speaker 2>Eighties he had.

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Eyelid surgery and lip off augmentation.

0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 5>That's when they got thin.

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 2>That's when they got real thin.

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:12.799
<v Speaker 5>Is that when the ad libs came when it got

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:17.880
<v Speaker 5>real thin, because that is.

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:22.399
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing to block the.

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 5>Noise ship when they put this ship, that's how you

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:29.799
<v Speaker 5>show it up. But look what they just did. He

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 5>was probably saying it the whole time, but them big

0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 5>old juicy lips was it was getting in the way

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:37.160
<v Speaker 5>I like to think he wrote man in the Mirror

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 5>before and he tried to sing it and he was like, no,

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:47.320
<v Speaker 5>he's not ready. But it was.

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Those blues lips.

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Baby, you want to say them boys thin as a razor.

0:47:56.680 --> 0:47:58.399
<v Speaker 2>We don't realize it was for the art.

0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 5>That's like Rocky being like, cut I can't do it right.

0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 2>You got to take some juice out.

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:08.399
<v Speaker 5>I got it.

0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I love that that this was all just a beautiful

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:12.840
<v Speaker 1>effort towards making better music.

0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in the early.

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:22.120
<v Speaker 5>Because I do like those That ship was so good.

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:33.200
<v Speaker 2>In the early nineties.

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Uh, he got multiple rhino Plastic's chin augmentation again and

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 1>breast implants, which he later removed. I think I think

0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:45.399
<v Speaker 1>they say breast. I imagine it was more chest than.

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:49.120
<v Speaker 5>Okay context to with huge titties. I don't think.

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Just a couple of days, you know, see what it

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:59.759
<v Speaker 2>was hitting on blank it an't like it. He got

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:02.120
<v Speaker 2>rid over. I thought breastfeed.

0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:08.239
<v Speaker 3>I thought with the big titties out, that would be

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:10.440
<v Speaker 3>that would be crazy, that would be crazy.

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Was that the You're not alone?

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:19.279
<v Speaker 5>He really abandoned that. Bob fast, It's not good. I

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:21.440
<v Speaker 5>think we talked about it on here before that was not.

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:25.520
<v Speaker 1>We started to talk about and then you distracted us

0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:28.200
<v Speaker 1>with tiny Have you ever seen Michael Jackson's nipples?

0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 5>That's right, have you? Yes?

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like I've seen him. Olivia Smart.

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, Olivia's shown us pictures Michael Jackson with titties

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:41.080
<v Speaker 5>showing it.

0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:47.320
<v Speaker 2>But I'm excited Mike and a brown man.

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:52.120
<v Speaker 5>Like it's supposed to No, I got I'm sorry. Continue

0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:54.800
<v Speaker 5>though we're talking about the bob. He got his bob.

0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:58.160
<v Speaker 1>But in the meantime, he also in the mid nineties

0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 1>got a facelift and Talx injections.

0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Believe I don't believe it.

0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:08.279
<v Speaker 1>In the nineties he all late nineties he got more

0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:15.760
<v Speaker 1>rhino plastics and a skin graft to repair damage from lupus. Okay, see, okay,

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I am saying that picture now, and it does suck.

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:19.479
<v Speaker 5>You're right, it's tough.

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:22.439
<v Speaker 1>And then in the two thousands he got additional skin

0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 1>grafts and laser treatments, and then, of course, in two

0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:29.800
<v Speaker 1>thousand and nine he died from cardiac arrest from taking

0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 1>all that propothoal.

0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:33.440
<v Speaker 5>I feel like the two thousands we weren't really seeing

0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:35.600
<v Speaker 5>him as much visually in court.

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, top of almost suburban and stuff, right, that was

0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:44.719
<v Speaker 2>the two thousands, A lot of umbrellas, a lot of

0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot of face masks. He was early and.

0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:55.360
<v Speaker 5>But but but compared to how exposed he was before,

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 5>Like we watched him kind of our lifetime is watching

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:01.560
<v Speaker 5>him go, I think and further inside.

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I think he went through so many sort of like

0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 1>heartbreaks just with like the the accusations around obviously the

0:51:10.480 --> 0:51:14.359
<v Speaker 1>him being you know, a sex criminal, but then additionally

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:17.640
<v Speaker 1>like the ship with his kids and like getting sort

0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:21.759
<v Speaker 1>of exposed for whatever those weird relationships were, all the

0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:26.839
<v Speaker 1>civil trials, he was facing down all the weird like then.

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Remember there was a period where he had started like

0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:35.160
<v Speaker 1>suing his company, his record label for racial injustice, and

0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:38.120
<v Speaker 1>he had like linked up with Johnny Cochrane trying to

0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:40.879
<v Speaker 1>like recoup funds off of what he claimed was them

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:43.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to tank his career. Like, I think he was

0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:47.440
<v Speaker 1>so disillusioned with the world that you had to put

0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:49.200
<v Speaker 1>an umbrella up and go inside.

0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:52.400
<v Speaker 2>He had Johnny Cochrane first, though he had Johnny Cochran

0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 2>before oj Oh, he was before OJH. Yeah, he might

0:51:55.160 --> 0:52:01.600
<v Speaker 2>have gave number WOA n art back in the nineties

0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Johnny cockran was on board, and then either Johnny Coger

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:08.760
<v Speaker 2>had to leave or they settled or whatever. Yeah, Johnny

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:11.719
<v Speaker 2>Cocker left and then they settled. There's something Johnny Coger

0:52:11.800 --> 0:52:14.080
<v Speaker 2>don't take no ls, you know what I'm saying. So

0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:17.200
<v Speaker 2>then yeah, but then then when OJ got away, Johnny

0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:19.800
<v Speaker 2>cogre and it was like he got lawyer to the stars.

0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:25.319
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. If that's the that's who OJ called.

0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:28.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's I'm just saying, Mike, I

0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:33.120
<v Speaker 2>need a number one man, I could call. Oh, Johnny,

0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't give you this number. But I heard you

0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:38.960
<v Speaker 2>had a glove on, so you know, gloves got to

0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:42.720
<v Speaker 2>stick together. Man, you believe that was his real voice?

0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I do not believe. No, that wasn't his voice. No,

0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:47.960
<v Speaker 2>we've heard, yeah, we've heard his real voice.

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:48.640
<v Speaker 5>Man.

0:52:48.960 --> 0:52:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in that in the recordings for the video game.

0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, yeah, that boy game. Yeah, that's what

0:52:57.120 --> 0:52:57.440
<v Speaker 1>it was.

0:52:57.480 --> 0:52:59.919
<v Speaker 2>The game. They have to lost files of him. Ready

0:52:59.920 --> 0:53:02.560
<v Speaker 2>to Rumble. I wish they had told us that was him.

0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:05.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, I mean arguments I had in school. It

0:53:05.680 --> 0:53:09.040
<v Speaker 2>ain't no real Michael Jackson voice. You don't even know about.

0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Ready to rumble it was really him. That's crazy nuts

0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:17.040
<v Speaker 2>because I think they couldn't advertise it. I think Michael

0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:19.279
<v Speaker 2>Jackson was in such hot water at the time. I

0:53:19.320 --> 0:53:22.319
<v Speaker 2>don't think they could really advertise that it was him

0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:24.600
<v Speaker 2>in the game. But yeah, I thought that's why he

0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:26.120
<v Speaker 2>changed his voice. Yeah.

0:53:27.400 --> 0:53:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was like, out of respect to what y'all

0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:33.040
<v Speaker 1>got going, and you're still going to represent me, I'll

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:35.000
<v Speaker 1>give you my voice, I'll change it.

0:53:35.080 --> 0:53:37.880
<v Speaker 2>I'll just give you a different Michael Jackson. He made

0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:39.160
<v Speaker 2>some of the songs for Sonic.

0:53:40.080 --> 0:53:42.359
<v Speaker 5>I didn't know that original.

0:53:43.520 --> 0:53:47.879
<v Speaker 2>One of the like like, yeah, the same video game,

0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:53.120
<v Speaker 2>video game Crazy produce some of somemer Sonic Underwater. That

0:53:58.320 --> 0:53:59.040
<v Speaker 2>was crazy.

0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:00.319
<v Speaker 5>Man, that was good.

0:54:01.280 --> 0:54:04.080
<v Speaker 3>That's really hang out to just listen to the song

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:06.760
<v Speaker 3>and he starts tapping his foot and he puts his hand.

0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:10.560
<v Speaker 2>On They were still from music though back in those days.

0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:12.920
<v Speaker 2>They you know, it's like the wiwid Wess. Nobody was

0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:17.680
<v Speaker 2>protecting IP in the sixteen bit forms, so it's like, yeah,

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:20.800
<v Speaker 2>there's some songs just like man, this let's sound familiar

0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:24.840
<v Speaker 2>and it was just taking stuff that sucks. I guess

0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:25.960
<v Speaker 2>it's also pretty cool.

0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:29.520
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, pretty cool some of some of legal uh.

0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:31.640
<v Speaker 1>And I say this fully being a person who I

0:54:32.360 --> 0:54:36.680
<v Speaker 1>hope doesn't get all of his proper propriety ideas whatever stolen.

0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:42.439
<v Speaker 1>I I really don't like the laws around like fair use.

0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I really feel like you made some ship I should

0:54:45.560 --> 0:54:47.879
<v Speaker 1>be able to just I want to put your song

0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:49.239
<v Speaker 1>in my thing and I don't want to have to

0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:49.839
<v Speaker 1>ask for it.

0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:53.360
<v Speaker 2>And I know that's not nice, right, but I guess

0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:56.959
<v Speaker 2>just to prevent people from just totally jacking your song

0:54:57.120 --> 0:55:00.200
<v Speaker 2>and just you know, and I think on it and

0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:02.480
<v Speaker 2>then it's like, nah, it's my song. I think there

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:03.040
<v Speaker 2>should be.

0:55:02.960 --> 0:55:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Laws around that. I think that's crazy. If you made something,

0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:08.080
<v Speaker 1>it should be yours, and it should you should be

0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:11.200
<v Speaker 1>paid properly for that, right. I just hate that the

0:55:11.200 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 1>way that artists are forced to make their money is

0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 1>by having to manage all existence of their song anywhere, right,

0:55:20.120 --> 0:55:23.759
<v Speaker 1>rather than you just getting paid off of the greatness

0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:26.520
<v Speaker 1>of something you made and then anybody can throw it

0:55:26.560 --> 0:55:29.520
<v Speaker 1>on their fucking DVD because it's a great song and

0:55:29.560 --> 0:55:32.040
<v Speaker 1>we can all appreciate that you got paid properly for.

0:55:32.040 --> 0:55:34.480
<v Speaker 5>It, right, right, Yeah, But that's never gonna.

0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Happen, and that's My problem is that fair use is

0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:41.560
<v Speaker 1>just us being punished for you all being snakes with

0:55:41.640 --> 0:55:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the very artists you claim to represent.

0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:47.839
<v Speaker 2>That's real, that's real. But I mean, like it sucks now,

0:55:48.000 --> 0:55:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Like I feel like this generation I hear I see,

0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:55.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, being that I received so much Michael Jackson stuff.

0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:59.400
<v Speaker 2>I get into Michael Jackson versus Prince stuff all the time.

0:56:00.000 --> 0:56:02.560
<v Speaker 2>There's so many people that don't have knowledge of prints

0:56:02.760 --> 0:56:07.200
<v Speaker 2>because he was so protective of his IP online from

0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:11.640
<v Speaker 2>the mid two thousands basically until he died, and so

0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:15.840
<v Speaker 2>there's so much Prince stuff that that people didn't discover.

0:56:15.960 --> 0:56:18.880
<v Speaker 2>There's so many people that don't have knowledge of prints.

0:56:19.120 --> 0:56:21.719
<v Speaker 2>They're like, why would you even compare these two? But

0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:25.760
<v Speaker 2>part of that is because they don't even know how

0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:29.240
<v Speaker 2>like crazy Prince was going in the eighties. They don't

0:56:29.280 --> 0:56:31.560
<v Speaker 2>know about a lot of his music. They don't know

0:56:31.600 --> 0:56:33.960
<v Speaker 2>about a lot, you know, a lot of his influence

0:56:34.000 --> 0:56:37.400
<v Speaker 2>and all of that. And it's like, you know, but

0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:39.759
<v Speaker 2>part of that was because he was so tight, Like

0:56:39.800 --> 0:56:42.320
<v Speaker 2>if you had a baby dance in the nineteen ninety nine,

0:56:43.000 --> 0:56:43.839
<v Speaker 2>he'd pull it down.

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:46.399
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, did you if y'all heard

0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:48.600
<v Speaker 1>about the Prince documentary.

0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh they pulled it, right, the state pulled it. Yeah.

0:56:53.640 --> 0:56:58.040
<v Speaker 1>So Netflix basically commissions this documentary from the same dude

0:56:58.040 --> 0:57:02.239
<v Speaker 1>who made the OJ documentary, the one that was like this.

0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:08.120
<v Speaker 8>So it's like it's not like a puff piece, it's

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:10.839
<v Speaker 8>like a no. This was like a true deep dive.

0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:13.440
<v Speaker 8>And apparently I learned all this on the daily. But

0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:16.680
<v Speaker 8>apparently he went to the vault because that's how they

0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:20.960
<v Speaker 8>They basically, you know, Netflix got the rights to what

0:57:21.160 --> 0:57:23.200
<v Speaker 8>was in the vault, and so they went to him

0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:25.520
<v Speaker 8>and were like, we're giving you all his ship, go

0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:28.200
<v Speaker 8>in the vault, go ahead and make the documentary. He

0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:31.440
<v Speaker 8>goes in the vault, he's like, bro, all the meaningful

0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:34.640
<v Speaker 8>shit has been scrubbed. That like, Prince was so on

0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:37.520
<v Speaker 8>top of it in terms of keeping it private. He

0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:40.640
<v Speaker 8>scrubbed anything that would have been like a sort of

0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 8>casual moment or anything that was like caught off guard,

0:57:44.280 --> 0:57:49.919
<v Speaker 8>ass Prince. It just is all clean photos and shiny shit,

0:57:50.480 --> 0:57:53.840
<v Speaker 8>right Yeah, And so he's pissed because like, this sucks.

0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I've been I got access to the vault and it

0:57:57.960 --> 0:58:01.080
<v Speaker 1>still sucks. I'm never gonna learn about this dude. And

0:58:01.120 --> 0:58:04.680
<v Speaker 1>he goes on a six year mission talking to every

0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:07.760
<v Speaker 1>single person who considered themselves in any way, shape form

0:58:08.080 --> 0:58:11.600
<v Speaker 1>close to Prince who will talk to him, and truly

0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:15.400
<v Speaker 1>makes what they described in the Daily as a masterpiece

0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:18.720
<v Speaker 1>of a documentary about this dude, really exploring like most

0:58:18.720 --> 0:58:22.280
<v Speaker 1>of his childhood, unpacking all of this trauma that created

0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:26.720
<v Speaker 1>the character, like really like digging into relationships and his

0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of like abuses and also like the abuse that

0:58:30.360 --> 0:58:34.000
<v Speaker 1>he put out, like all kinds of shit unpacked. And

0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:37.600
<v Speaker 1>then the family the estate saw it and was like,

0:58:37.800 --> 0:58:41.360
<v Speaker 1>we gave them seventeen pages worth of notes, being like

0:58:41.400 --> 0:58:42.920
<v Speaker 1>we don't want this in there, We don't want that

0:58:42.960 --> 0:58:45.400
<v Speaker 1>in there. That can't exist. Nobody needs to know about this,

0:58:45.680 --> 0:58:48.480
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah blah. And he was like, Yo,

0:58:48.560 --> 0:58:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I can give you like a taste, but I can't.

0:58:51.240 --> 0:58:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't lie about what I've discovered. And then the

0:58:54.800 --> 0:58:57.439
<v Speaker 1>Netflix and them were just like fine, then they don't

0:58:57.440 --> 0:59:00.479
<v Speaker 1>never exist, and they it's gone.

0:59:00.560 --> 0:59:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Somebody got it, somebody, somebody, somebody got it. That might

0:59:07.280 --> 0:59:11.280
<v Speaker 2>be my new mission to get the freaking Prince doc bro.

0:59:11.760 --> 0:59:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I have mixed feelings about it, if I'm being honest

0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:15.720
<v Speaker 2>with you really. Yeah. Yeah.

0:59:15.760 --> 0:59:18.120
<v Speaker 1>A part of me is like, well, obviously I want

0:59:18.160 --> 0:59:21.520
<v Speaker 1>to see the documentary. I'm such a massive Prince fan.

0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:24.040
<v Speaker 1>It would mean the world to me to know more

0:59:24.080 --> 0:59:28.000
<v Speaker 1>about this person. But I also think he did it.

0:59:28.840 --> 0:59:30.320
<v Speaker 1>He beat the fucking game.

0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:33.480
<v Speaker 5>Bro. That's what I was thinking, is you were describing it.

0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:35.040
<v Speaker 5>I was like, damn, he got away clean.

0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:39.680
<v Speaker 1>He set out to keep his world private despite being

0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:42.760
<v Speaker 1>arguably the most talented human being that's ever walked the

0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:43.640
<v Speaker 1>face of the earth.

0:59:43.920 --> 0:59:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:47.160
<v Speaker 1>He was like, I'm going to leave this world with

0:59:47.240 --> 0:59:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you knowing nothing about me, and he did it. Yeah,

0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and he If you can do that, you deserve that privacy.

0:59:55.400 --> 0:59:58.640
<v Speaker 1>You deserve to go into whatever after life exists for

0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:01.480
<v Speaker 1>you knowing that you beat the game instead of this

1:00:01.520 --> 1:00:04.440
<v Speaker 1>other version of the game where like a person dies

1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and then we dig through all their ship and go.

1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:09.919
<v Speaker 2>Ain't just crazy? He had this the whole time. Yeah,

1:00:10.240 --> 1:00:12.400
<v Speaker 2>that's what I didn't know about that. Oh no, he

1:00:12.440 --> 1:00:14.920
<v Speaker 2>could still have his privacy. I'm not gonna tell nobody.

1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I just want to see it. You just need nobody,

1:00:18.680 --> 1:00:22.120
<v Speaker 2>nobody else gotta know. Yeah, I just want to see it.

1:00:22.160 --> 1:00:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I think the hard part is there are one billion

1:00:24.440 --> 1:00:27.680
<v Speaker 1>people on the planet. You feel the same way.

1:00:27.960 --> 1:00:30.200
<v Speaker 2>I won't do it nobody. I ain't gonna clip it.

1:00:30.200 --> 1:00:32.520
<v Speaker 2>I ain't gonna make no content. You know what I'm saying.

1:00:32.840 --> 1:00:35.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna see it, and you know, I ain't

1:00:35.320 --> 1:00:37.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna talk about it and let somebody else see it.

1:00:37.080 --> 1:00:43.000
<v Speaker 2>There we go, that's somebody else side. Then we have

1:00:43.040 --> 1:00:46.320
<v Speaker 2>a conversation. Lest love had to see it.

1:00:48.280 --> 1:00:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Yo, you see that there's no one they call you,

1:00:52.280 --> 1:00:54.520
<v Speaker 1>they go, they gonna rob We're gonna do a private

1:00:54.560 --> 1:00:56.920
<v Speaker 1>screening just you, no one else. We're gonna let you

1:00:56.960 --> 1:00:59.840
<v Speaker 1>watch the Prince documentary. You watch the entire Prince documentary,

1:00:59.840 --> 1:01:02.000
<v Speaker 1>you of tears in your eyes by the end of it.

1:01:02.000 --> 1:01:04.280
<v Speaker 1>It is that meaningful to you too at this moment.

1:01:04.600 --> 1:01:06.640
<v Speaker 1>And then you walk out of that documentary. You go

1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:08.520
<v Speaker 1>back to your home, you go back to your wife.

1:01:09.040 --> 1:01:12.320
<v Speaker 1>There's no fucking way in the world that while y'all

1:01:12.320 --> 1:01:15.000
<v Speaker 1>are brushing your teeth late at night, you don't go

1:01:16.360 --> 1:01:19.479
<v Speaker 1>the documentary was pretty crazy. Yeah, I would tell my girl,

1:01:19.720 --> 1:01:22.800
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna you're gonna tell somebody.

1:01:22.840 --> 1:01:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm gonna tell my wife. She can't even

1:01:27.120 --> 1:01:28.120
<v Speaker 2>testify me.

1:01:28.200 --> 1:01:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Don't know that man, there's no way your wife isn't

1:01:30.840 --> 1:01:34.800
<v Speaker 1>going back to her very challenging job and then being like,

1:01:35.400 --> 1:01:37.720
<v Speaker 1>what were y'all up to this weekend? I do much,

1:01:37.800 --> 1:01:41.400
<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna tell you I've got to see that Princeton. Yeah,

1:01:41.880 --> 1:01:46.480
<v Speaker 1>everything is gonna it's it's gonna become public knowledge.

1:01:46.520 --> 1:01:47.800
<v Speaker 2>This never stays private.

1:01:48.360 --> 1:01:50.320
<v Speaker 5>You mean that being said? How many people worked on it?

1:01:50.320 --> 1:01:52.760
<v Speaker 5>There's like a lot of people have seen it. I'm

1:01:52.800 --> 1:01:55.080
<v Speaker 5>sure on the documentary. Yeah, I bet a lot of

1:01:55.080 --> 1:01:58.560
<v Speaker 5>people have seen it, but ed there's like the whole

1:01:58.920 --> 1:02:02.280
<v Speaker 5>I bet a lot of it. A lot of what it.

1:02:02.240 --> 1:02:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Is we know now because just of word of mouth

1:02:06.400 --> 1:02:11.200
<v Speaker 1>that he was both controlling and abusive and complicated. Is

1:02:11.320 --> 1:02:14.720
<v Speaker 1>ultimately what it all shows is that like he was abused,

1:02:14.960 --> 1:02:18.360
<v Speaker 1>was put out of his childhood home at twelve by

1:02:18.400 --> 1:02:19.400
<v Speaker 1>his mom, then at.

1:02:19.280 --> 1:02:22.000
<v Speaker 5>Fourteen by his dad. He truly had to get it,

1:02:22.080 --> 1:02:23.720
<v Speaker 5>was he when they found him in that park, That's

1:02:23.760 --> 1:02:24.240
<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying.

1:02:24.240 --> 1:02:25.920
<v Speaker 1>He had to get it out the mud at like

1:02:26.040 --> 1:02:30.760
<v Speaker 1>seventeen A crazy Yeah, I assume he just played the

1:02:30.840 --> 1:02:32.600
<v Speaker 1>album for his parents and they were like, well, you

1:02:32.640 --> 1:02:40.080
<v Speaker 1>don't need to go to college. No, Yo, that's crazy.

1:02:40.840 --> 1:02:44.320
<v Speaker 1>His mom was like apparently super like cold and like,

1:02:44.720 --> 1:02:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and their relationship was toxic. But then he moved in

1:02:47.800 --> 1:02:50.720
<v Speaker 1>with his dad, who he loved and admired, but his

1:02:50.800 --> 1:02:54.880
<v Speaker 1>dad was hello religious, Yeah, would like beat.

1:02:54.680 --> 1:03:02.560
<v Speaker 2>The shit out of him. Some even have a cover

1:03:02.640 --> 1:03:03.040
<v Speaker 2>of HNDS.

1:03:06.600 --> 1:03:09.000
<v Speaker 1>But that's also part of what they claim makes the

1:03:09.400 --> 1:03:13.320
<v Speaker 1>documentary so masterful, is that all these songs that you

1:03:13.520 --> 1:03:18.360
<v Speaker 1>thought were about sex and sexuality are actually like just

1:03:18.840 --> 1:03:22.200
<v Speaker 1>hammered with this duality where it's also about like a

1:03:22.240 --> 1:03:27.040
<v Speaker 1>person struggling to find community, a person struggling to like

1:03:27.600 --> 1:03:30.520
<v Speaker 1>to place their identity in a world that has rejected

1:03:30.520 --> 1:03:34.800
<v Speaker 1>them from the beginning. It's it's like it creates like

1:03:34.920 --> 1:03:38.560
<v Speaker 1>all these fucking layers for who the human is. But

1:03:38.720 --> 1:03:42.479
<v Speaker 1>also he didn't want us to know. And I kind

1:03:42.520 --> 1:03:45.080
<v Speaker 1>of respect that he figured out a way to keep

1:03:45.120 --> 1:03:48.480
<v Speaker 1>that so quiet. Crazy that Minnesota is the backdrop for

1:03:48.520 --> 1:03:49.800
<v Speaker 1>all this the whole time.

1:03:49.960 --> 1:03:52.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I respect it. I do feel like the

1:03:52.640 --> 1:03:58.560
<v Speaker 2>reason his estate is protecting this is not for him,

1:03:59.320 --> 1:04:03.880
<v Speaker 2>not for this him, but just because it might affect

1:04:03.880 --> 1:04:06.000
<v Speaker 2>the bottom line. There might be some people that are like,

1:04:06.080 --> 1:04:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to play Prince music anymore, knowing certain

1:04:09.920 --> 1:04:12.360
<v Speaker 2>things and that's all they care about, you, you know what

1:04:12.400 --> 1:04:15.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, Like Prince Music was U title only that's

1:04:15.280 --> 1:04:18.160
<v Speaker 2>the reason that I had titled The Minute He Died.

1:04:18.800 --> 1:04:23.000
<v Speaker 2>We go into train station, it's Spotify ads for Prince

1:04:23.280 --> 1:04:26.040
<v Speaker 2>all over the train stations. Like you know what I'm saying,

1:04:26.080 --> 1:04:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Like they just some people in that camp just out

1:04:29.000 --> 1:04:29.920
<v Speaker 2>to make a book.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it does feel it is very disheartening, Like

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<v Speaker 3>when you go to the Minneapolis airport and there's that

1:04:34.600 --> 1:04:37.560
<v Speaker 3>Prince store. Yeah, you're damn if there was some shit

1:04:37.640 --> 1:04:39.560
<v Speaker 3>he would have hated it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he didn't want this. He didn't want that at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And the documentarian talks about it in the interview that

1:04:45.400 --> 1:04:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I listened to. He talks a lot about how like

1:04:47.920 --> 1:04:50.600
<v Speaker 1>even going to Paisley Park, it's not like you're being

1:04:50.640 --> 1:04:52.120
<v Speaker 1>informed on who Prince is.

1:04:52.520 --> 1:04:54.880
<v Speaker 2>It truly is just a big gift shop.

1:04:55.360 --> 1:04:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Like it they've turned it into like a fucking, you know,

1:05:00.240 --> 1:05:03.680
<v Speaker 1>rock cafe for Prince. More than it is like a

1:05:03.760 --> 1:05:08.920
<v Speaker 1>real testament to like his ever changing positions on like

1:05:08.960 --> 1:05:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the world, on responsibility, the nigga died at Jehovah's witness,

1:05:13.720 --> 1:05:15.800
<v Speaker 1>It's not even like.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the numbers.

1:05:17.320 --> 1:05:21.680
<v Speaker 1>How many there's one hundred and sixty thousand or something

1:05:21.720 --> 1:05:29.440
<v Speaker 1>like that. It's something crazy, you the proud. No, I mean,

1:05:29.560 --> 1:05:32.960
<v Speaker 1>we're you're not even given the chance to get to

1:05:33.040 --> 1:05:36.520
<v Speaker 1>know who he is based off of the estate, even

1:05:36.920 --> 1:05:41.160
<v Speaker 1>regardless of like what becomes the more complicated details of

1:05:41.200 --> 1:05:43.440
<v Speaker 1>his past. It won't even give you a chance to

1:05:43.480 --> 1:05:46.680
<v Speaker 1>do basic knowledge on what prince who prince was, And

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<v Speaker 1>so in that way, it is disheartening where you go. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would be really good for us as

1:05:51.360 --> 1:05:54.680
<v Speaker 1>humans to know that our heroes can again be these

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<v Speaker 1>complicated figures and still valuable. That said, I also respect

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<v Speaker 1>that my hero really pulled a fast one on us,

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<v Speaker 1>and I gotta say, big up, man, you did it.

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<v Speaker 2>I can argule it with that, I do. I do

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<v Speaker 2>you know when you put it that way, I do

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<v Speaker 2>feel like that is ill. And yeah, I was looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to, like, now we're going to your stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the you know, the better way to

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<v Speaker 2>just yeah, chalk it up to the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, man, he.

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<v Speaker 3>Might be the last one, because I don't think a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people win that hundred. I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 3>really I don't think a lot of people win.

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<v Speaker 2>That Daniel da lewis him. He's still alive? Yeahis he

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<v Speaker 2>still us?

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<v Speaker 5>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>He might, he might, he might slap somebody. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know where he's at. He keeps it pretty private. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see he met it. Who are playing next?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Frank Ocean kind of? But

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<v Speaker 1>he got messy friends, so we've been learning. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>about him every once in a while. Yeah, I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a lot of of the privates left.

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<v Speaker 5>So and I hate to say this on this medium.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of that is because podcasting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, we're for sure too much. How much of

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<v Speaker 1>this is just gossip? Well you just come on here

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<v Speaker 1>and gossip.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I thought you knew. We just got I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't see it. I think we did it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was like I think certainly, I still

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<v Speaker 1>believe Michael Jackson got a lot more surgeries than you do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do I guess if I may, I do

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<v Speaker 1>think there may be is a more complicated reasoning behind

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<v Speaker 1>the surgeries than just self hatred the way that it's

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<v Speaker 1>often been.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's I've been painted this This man wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be white Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't see it

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<v Speaker 2>like more complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's definitely more complicated than you may

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<v Speaker 1>never spun like he's.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried.

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<v Speaker 5>I tried a lot of spinning.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta scar my chair, try to do the smooth

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<v Speaker 2>criminal lean, not knowing that like, yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. It was shoo technology. I just thought, if

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<v Speaker 2>you change your calves the right way, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, you can get back up and then about.

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<v Speaker 5>That man to the floor and yeah, gotta be strong though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think there's a bunch of us that even

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<v Speaker 1>with that technology wouldn't come closer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, certainly not right through them special shoot Yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I supposed the whole trick to the world zion hole

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<v Speaker 2>in them.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way in the world, Rob, could you tell

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<v Speaker 1>the people where they can find you?

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<v Speaker 2>You can find me? Uh. I'm on the Inconsistent podcast

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<v Speaker 2>of Rob Hayes comes out when it's ready. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know it's in assistent in Brandon and in Nature.

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<v Speaker 2>I do the end season podcast with my boy Jamel Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>Also watch Little keV. Yeah, also fronting out now. It's

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<v Speaker 2>on all streaming platforms it's an album. It's also especially

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<v Speaker 2>you can watch on YouTube. Be like watching people talk.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, oh yeah, go watch Rob. Go go listen

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<v Speaker 2>to Rob Go watch this shit what you got?

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<v Speaker 3>April twenty fifth and twenty sixth, I'm gonna be at

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<v Speaker 3>the Dallas Comedy Club May eight through eleventh. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be with Rob right, Oh no, in are you going

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<v Speaker 3>to New Orleans?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I won't be with Rob, but I'll be. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be in New Orleans May eight through eleventh.

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<v Speaker 5>Cool Guy Joke City seven on Instagram, Patreon, dot com,

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<v Speaker 5>dot slash David Bori by my special Birth of a Nation.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the best special I've ever had.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. Yeah, that's what actively true.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to say that every special I like that.

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