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Speaker 1: But I think it's what it's gonna do is like

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Speaker 3: Oh right, Because I've heard people talk about like even

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Speaker 3: But if it's like a super volcano, because that's what

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Speaker 2: Ultimately, Yeah, Manzilenski knows when it's gonna blow. It's like

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Speaker 2: you'll see yeah, you'll see you. But you don't tell

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Speaker 4: As a racist stuff.

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Speaker 2: I can't tell me.

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Speaker 5: At night, I dream of you. I want to be

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Speaker 5: your lady.

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Speaker 2: Baby.

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Speaker 5: Welcome my Mama's and gentiles alike to another phenomenal episode

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Speaker 5: of My Mama told me.

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Speaker 1: The podcast where we dopted deep into the pockets of

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Speaker 1: black conspiracy.

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Speaker 3: Theory and finally work to prove the conspiracies. We gotta

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Speaker 3: figure that last it out. Yeah, I guess is it because.

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Speaker 2: Not of them? This is Rob's.

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Speaker 1: I think it's of everybody and Rob, We're so happy

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Speaker 2: We've already broken the That was.

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Speaker 5: A terrible introduce.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't really an introduction. Yea, we didn't even finish

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Speaker 1: I think we are here to prove all of the

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Speaker 2: What we're here hoping to prove.

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Speaker 5: I like that. Yeah, I'm into that, you know what

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Speaker 5: I've been Yeah, I'm just you know what I've been thinking. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you always set it up so uh poorly. I want

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Speaker 5: them to know what we're doing. I want them to

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Speaker 3: I want them to see how much work goes into

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Speaker 3: making that delicious treat they like to eat once a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, twice a week, twice a week. Once away twice

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Speaker 2: Whenever you listen to him.

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Speaker 3: You know what I've been thinking, I think doctor Umar

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Speaker 3: is doing a press run because he's finally getting ready

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Speaker 5: WHOA what I think?

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Speaker 2: Did you see him speak and like, uh, he was

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Speaker 2: And he was like what was he like Black Queen's

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Speaker 1: It was so crazy because I did not know niggas

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was like our joke, like younger

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Speaker 2: kids are like joking about this. Now. That's my question

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Speaker 2: I feel like doctor Umar spoke.

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Speaker 1: I remember, Uh, so many people that they had come

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Speaker 1: I had amazing onesell money back during like the Robot

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Speaker 5: That's a good time.

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Speaker 2: That permanent. He No, he didn't pick me up. I

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Speaker 2: Christepe Michelle. Really, we had Tree Songs. We had t Paine, Damn,

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Speaker 2: we had Godfree. He didn't tell us James Avery was gay.

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Speaker 2: Come on, you gotta come clean. I won't see it too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're the one to come clean, Godfrey. We didn't

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't imagine. The story was weird.

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Speaker 2: I was doing voice work for teenage Turtles. I was like,

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like that. It was just like I went

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think that's it, man. I think he

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Speaker 2: He just sees someone he hadn't seen it a long.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the rumormeil has started, Folks, we don't run from

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Speaker 1: it here, that's what it's poor our guest today. You've

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Speaker 1: already heard him tell phenomenal stories about Godfrey and the like.

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Speaker 1: He's a hilarious comedian, a dear friend. We love him

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Speaker 1: so much on this podcast. You've seen him on The

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Speaker 1: Tonight Show, You've seen him on Comedy Central. He currently

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Speaker 1: is writing for a brand new show called Little keV

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Speaker 1: that you can watch everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Now is everywhere? I missed that? They're all out all

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Speaker 1: Give it up for Rob Hayes, ladies. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't shout him out. Nothing cool Runnings that darn cat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cosby Cosby, he was on the Like when it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just here was the number two on that.

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Speaker 2: I believe I ain't even above Felicia Side in the

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Speaker 3: But they're not the Huxtables. It's like they're not Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I remember maybe Walker, Texas Ranger, Nash Bridges.

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Speaker 5: Maybe I watched that ship on Packs Okay remember Packs?

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Speaker 3: Okay, if you didn't have a cable, it was like

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Packs was trash damn. I like when Pack's first

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Speaker 2: Way to Heaven. They was like, yo, man, we found I.

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Speaker 5: And how Malcolm's gonna hate right right, We're not supposed

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Speaker 2: It was like a restaurant. Yeah, it was like a restaurant, club,

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Speaker 3: It was Malcolmic Eddie had he was always making jokes

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Speaker 5: That's literally what the episodes would be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and then Mary J. Blige would walk

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Speaker 2: I was disappointed the yo, they fucked us, so he was.

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Speaker 2: He was a big pull for trailer. Trailer makes this

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Speaker 5: It's like, yo, he says these people, he says three

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Speaker 2: And then he says, Monica, isn't it that he races

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Speaker 3: I remember the show. She's like, you know, if you win,

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Speaker 1: But they were like, it's not clear he gets the

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Speaker 1: They're like, whoa, you gotta fix man. We've studied car races.

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Speaker 5: He's like, I like to think he said, like five

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Speaker 5: other things that didn't make sense was what they had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, say that job the same girl.

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Speaker 2: Run him back. He's in the world. Yeah, this in

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Speaker 5: Yea, his name is Edwin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, don't literally hurt you.

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Speaker 2: That's why I saw the movie such as So Permanent

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what they sold us.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't stealing. He wasn't stealing fucking eight tracks.

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Speaker 2: That need to go to Space. Ye you think he's

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Speaker 5: Also, the DVD things.

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Speaker 3: Stealing DVDs didn't make sense because even when that movie

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Speaker 3: Like he was already like a commodity, right been.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that movie had me looking under cars for the

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Speaker 2: Yeahs big as eighteen wheel trucks have at least one tire.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, And you're saying, somehow they've only they

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Speaker 2: They found trucks that you could drive a whole car

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Speaker 5: Also a lot of nods I had never heard about.

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Speaker 5: Noting that became a.

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Speaker 2: Streak, It became an energy, Yeah, it did becoming Do

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Speaker 5: Do you want the effects of knots? But you ain't

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Speaker 2: You think they're ever energy drinks for rich people. I

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Speaker 5: I think they're separate everything for people.

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Speaker 1: I think Celsius for a while was in private eye spaces.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's real. And then and I think you

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Speaker 2: Sometimes because I'm from Atlanta though.

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Speaker 1: Because you weren't drinking Celsius. Okay, I think the remaining

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Speaker 2: Every like little waiting room in Atlanta had a crunk juice.

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Speaker 1: Fridge man, so they really. I think I've seen crunk

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Speaker 1: juice three times in my Yeah, it was like readily available.

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Speaker 2: Free that's crazy, you know, on tap and sparkling a

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Speaker 2: room town like a hot juice please. It was just

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Speaker 1: I think, and this is my own negative judgment. I

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Speaker 2: drink all that crib too much? Is this had racist

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Speaker 2: yours of the the Sun's mascot, which is it's a

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Speaker 1: I think in a fucking in a in a truly

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Speaker 2: It's doesn't make anything around so long. It's really crazy.

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Speaker 2: No gorillas in Phoenix. There's no gorillas. It's just they

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Speaker 2: just wanted to make them mony.

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Speaker 1: I know, black people playing basketball. Monkey damn Phoenix a

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Speaker 5: Let's see if they'll let that. Let us do this

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Speaker 5: is the place that it would go through though. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: where it's like who's going to vote?

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Speaker 2: Again? We don't live there. It's gotta be awkward when

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Speaker 2: no judge me. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: They should have just got it. They could have got anything.

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Speaker 2: They could have got anything, anything that lives in the desert.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a get go your sonhead, just do.

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Speaker 2: A here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing mascots are. I think they gritty is

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Speaker 3: too it's too cumbered, cumbers you mean, just ahead.

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Speaker 2: And that regular.

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Speaker 1: But you can do whatever you want with the body

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Speaker 1: the premises, son. All you have to do is have

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Speaker 1: a head that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: You do what you can do. You know what I

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Speaker 5: I would make it a cool guy named Ray Ray. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: because Rays Okay, he's got some glasses on. I got

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Speaker 5: you just like Raphael. Wow, No, that's not all that's.

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Speaker 1: He just got love is a cool nigga.

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Speaker 2: Spoke a long cigarette basketball, Rob.

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Speaker 1: You you came to us today with a conspiracy and

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Speaker 1: we eventually have to talk conspiracy theory at some point

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Speaker 1: at some point, But you came to us with a conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: I personally have never heard anybody say before either.

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Speaker 2: This is exciting.

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Speaker 1: This bill is very personal in a way that I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to hear you unpack.

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Speaker 2: You said, my mama told.

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Speaker 1: Me Michael Jackson never got unnecessary surgery.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Tell us everything you know and believe I.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So, as you guys know, I keep a lot

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Speaker 2: of knowledge about out music and stuff, to the point

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Speaker 2: where the algorithm just feeds me stuff. If there's ever

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Speaker 2: a new resurface video Michael Jackson, it will hit my feed.

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Speaker 1: First, Okay, your first responder for Michael Jackson videos.

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Speaker 2: I'm there's never been a time where like somebody sent

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Speaker 2: me a Michael Jackson video and then I've been like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I never seen this one before. It's normally like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I've seen that. Look at this part. You know. So

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Speaker 2: I've been starting to get truther Michael Jackson's content coming

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Speaker 2: to me. WHOA Now I will I will tell you

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Speaker 2: that I found out earlier today, some of the pictures

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Speaker 2: that I've been getting.

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Speaker 5: How did you? How did you find out?

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Speaker 2: Because I was like, I was like making sure I

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Speaker 2: didn't just make up. Yeah, But then I was just like,

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Speaker 2: oh man, there are people that are out here debunking

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Speaker 2: some of the studio. I picture that when you said it.

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Speaker 1: I pictured your wife whispering it in your ear, like

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Speaker 1: that man did for George Bush when he found out.

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Speaker 2: About all she gave. We lost the town. So the

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Speaker 2: thing is, sometimes I'll get the like I would believe

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Speaker 2: them if they had separated them, But all the videos

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Speaker 2: I get are like, nah, it's one thing. It's like

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Speaker 2: he didn't bleach his skin and he didn't have any

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Speaker 2: unnecessary surgery. It's like that's a lot to tackle in

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Speaker 3: Your Instagram limit like three minutes, Come on, I need

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Speaker 3: at least ten right.

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Speaker 2: Cover more. It's not so there's people that believe that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Michael Jackson the fire, the Pepsi commercial, right, which is

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Speaker 2: like triggered is he's his loopis?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this like eighty four early eighty four triggered his

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Speaker 2: loopis And then basically that's what causes like some of

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Speaker 2: the like red disccoloration that you see in his skin,

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Speaker 2: and then after that he also has vill aligo, which

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Speaker 2: my father told me he made up. My father didn't

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Speaker 2: even believe Villa lago was the thing. Oh, he didn't

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Speaker 2: even believe he was. My dad didn't believe in the

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Speaker 2: premise of no disease. He was like Michael Jackson, like

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Speaker 2: because when you're a kid, you're like, you're looking at

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Speaker 2: then your parents are cracking up or whatever. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: my parents had we had that discussion. I'm like, well,

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Speaker 2: what happened? How did he end up like this? And

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Speaker 2: my dad's like, he made up some disease bill a

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Speaker 2: like remember that in my head, like, oh man, Michael

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Speaker 2: Jackson so powerful. He made up a disease.

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Speaker 5: That's how you thought about it, was like he's so powerful.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you're a cycle.

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Speaker 2: Room for thirteen seconds, broke up a disease. He walked backwards.

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Speaker 2: Litter sucks. They don't sell him at Walmart.

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Speaker 5: That's true. That was a crazy thing. To come out

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Speaker 5: with like litter sock technologies.

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Speaker 1: Come on, just the high socks alone with such a

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Speaker 5: Also, he's wearing those like captain's tassels on his shoulders

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Speaker 5: and he's.

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Speaker 2: Walking with it with an army of people would come on.

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Speaker 1: About his style up, everything about his style would have

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Speaker 1: gotten him literally murdered in Gary, Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he found a way too.

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Speaker 5: He's just like a motorcycle motorcycle motorcycler, like that's meant

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00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 5: the motorcycle itself. And he just had like bondage girl.

443
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: He looked insane, bad, Yeah, crazy, I think, yeah, Yeah,

444
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: everywhere impossible, he did the impossible, and so you believe

445
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: the disease could have been more proof of his amazing.

446
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 2: Power, right right. But then later people were saying he

447
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 2: bleached his skin, and then I find these videos saying

448
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 2: he didn't bleach his skin.

449
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: Well, there was a pretty big window of time in

450
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: between you finding these videos and everything else you knew,

451
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: right right right. I think you really rushed that middle

452
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: part and I would say that was all.

453
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 2: Of your adult.

454
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that big chunk that you skipped over was all

455
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: the years of just common sense building over time.

456
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: I wanted to believe it. I think they knew that

457
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: deep down there some people that wanted to be like

458
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson woke up one day and was like, what

459
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 2: happened to me? Oh my god? Yeah, oh man, I

460
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: gotta call this Taylor and tell her like, I'm different.

461
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: Those people scare me anybody else, because because look, I

462
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: love Michael Jackson, I do not I recognize that that

463
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: at the very least, what he was doing was completely

464
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: unhealthy and inappropriate with those children. What scale it went

465
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: to is not anything I'll ever know, and I think,

466
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: frankly any of us will ever know, right, I think objectively,

467
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: he did bad things with those kids just by spending

468
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: the type of time he was spending it with them.

469
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 5: You don't want any grown man hanging out with your kids.

470
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: No, it's nasty.

471
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: It's a nasty, weird thing to do, chill out right,

472
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: regardless of what their childhood was or it's just like,

473
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: that's like a line. I cannot undo my relationship with

474
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: the music, with the sort of joy that he represented

475
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: for me. So Michael Jackson remained, I'm sorry that said

476
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: the the idea that you you are so wanting him

477
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: to be a god that you you pretend he didn't

478
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: fuck up his nose fell off.

479
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 3: I think he's just some people's Trump. I think he

480
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 3: was like I think that's true in the same way

481
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: some people just Trump can't do anything wrong. I think

482
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 3: he can't.

483
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: He's trying to hit notes. One surgery, that's all I

484
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 2: give you. One. Yeah, that's it. That's it.

485
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 5: What about late Michael though?

486
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 3: What you mean like like maybe they didn't do it

487
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: right and then it just got lighter and lighter and light.

488
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: One surgery, that's all I give you.

489
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 5: That's man, that's tough. That's all you believe in is

490
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 5: one surgery.

491
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: One surgery.

492
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 5: Okay, let's talk about that was the one surgeon.

493
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: Let's take it break. Let's on a cliffhanger. I believes

494
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: that there was one surgery that changed everything for Michael

495
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: Jackson and everything else is just God. I've supposed doing

496
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: what he does to the King of pop Is that

497
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: our argument? Yeah, Okay, when we come back from this break,

498
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: we are going to find out what that that supposed

499
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: surgery is. This is very exciting, a beautiful Cliffhanter. We'll

500
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: be back more Rob Hayes more. Ma Mama told me.

501
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 5: We're not gonna let Joe Biden and Kamala Harris cut

502
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 5: America's me.

503
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: That's that only it's almost like this guy is some

504
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: We're back, We're back, that's it. Rob. Rob is still here.

505
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: Rob is still trying to convince us one surgery that

506
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson only had one surgery. Please, Rob, if you

507
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: will tell us what that one surgery was, he told.

508
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: Us he had the one surgery so you can hear

509
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: higher notes on his nose. He told Martin Basheer that

510
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: when Martin Vasheer went in his house unannounced and you know,

511
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: caused all these problems for my man, Mike.

512
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 5: Martin really acted up on that interview.

513
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, we didn't even ask for that.

514
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: We're just chilling out of nowhere. It's like, I spent

515
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: this time with Michael Jackson. Now we see him holding

516
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: hands with some kid and stuff, climbing trees. We need

517
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: to see none of that Jackson. Yeah, come on, man,

518
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: the British media, man, they know what they did.

519
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 6: So uh.

520
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: You know like like basically, okay, Michael Jackson, y'all know Icarus, right, yeah,

521
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: you only go so close to the sun. Well you

522
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying your wings start melting. Michael Jackson's

523
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: seeing heights weed never seen. She spun more than probably

524
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: anybody's ever spun, just like physically, so probably some of

525
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: that knows some of that color guy went off in

526
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: the spin.

527
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 5: I bet it was in the atmosphere.

528
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: You think he spun so fast that it literally just like,

529
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: have we ever seen anybody else spind like that? Why

530
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: did Berry saying this? Quit early? He is getting too light?

531
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: Am I looking lighter? Verry gotta stock?

532
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 4: I don't want to live in Detroit. You're not the

533
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 4: man I married. This game is ruining on family.

534
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: You don't even look like your son anymore.

535
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 5: He said, you know me, I spin because Barry does

536
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 5: you married?

537
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, man, that's what I'm hoping.

538
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm thinking, and I don't. I'm not loving

539
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: what you're saying so far. But it did introduce at

540
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: least a challenge that I've never faced before. What was

541
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: the first day that Mike came back that color?

542
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 3: It had to be wik Yeah, because you are a

543
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 3: great timeline for this. Yea, yeah, what's the album timeline? Okay,

544
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: it's dangerous.

545
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 5: He was all the way right dangerous is all the

546
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 5: way white. It's all the way white, right right, right?

547
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 5: And then what's the is bad that before that Bad? Yeah,

548
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 5: so it's between thriller and Bad. Thriller comes out late

549
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 5: eighty two, they shoot the videos that eighty three, the

550
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 5: awards is eighty four.

551
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: And by Thriller, he's already got a new nose, right, Yeah,

552
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: Now you don't have to acknowledge where that nose came from,

553
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: but you do acknowledge that nose was not the nose

554
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: we started with.

555
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: That's not the nose we started with, okay, Right, he's

556
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: also making plays with the hair. Yeah, well they I mean,

557
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: that's just hair at the time, right, the hair.

558
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 5: The hair just.

559
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: Crazy to us because we grew up in a hip

560
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: hop fade era, But like that was hair at the

561
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 2: time that a lot.

562
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: Of baby hairs on bad I think I think it

563
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: started to transition from any version of Africanized hair, right

564
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: and started to transition into a fine Latina woman.

565
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, some type of a Cariban do this, So okay,

566
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: So the Pepsi shoot early eighty four, the hairs burned,

567
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 2: So now you gotta start experimenting with wigs. They probably

568
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: don't make Jered Curle wigs. You know what I'm saying,

569
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: So the technolay hair texture might be different. And also

570
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: we don't know what grew back and what didn't grow back,

571
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: you know, like these are these are some of the

572
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: secrets that Mike might have all always had a bald spot.

573
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: After that, we really don't know, you know what I'm saying.

574
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: I will say, like eighty five, when he gets the

575
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: Grammy for uh, We Are the World, he looked different.

576
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 5: He in that We Are of the World documentary.

577
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: When they recorded We Are the World, that's somebody that

578
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 2: we know. But then when he came back to get

579
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 2: the Grammy, he looked different. You know what I'm saying.

580
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: The recording he is he is clearly still black.

581
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's doing a lot.

582
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 5: It's it's starting.

583
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: To separate himself. That's how from it.

584
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: And then to your point, by the time they accept

585
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: the award, that's a brand new person.

586
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: Now my issue is.

587
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: Why and maybe it just speaks to how talented this

588
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: man was that he could come back a different color

589
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: and everybody's just like, yeah.

590
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: No, we accept that. As Michael Jackson.

591
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, he still came back strong as dog.

592
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 5: But look how crazy it couldn't exist nowadays.

593
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: I think, bro, we're calling Jamie Fox a clone, and

594
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: the nigga ain't changed one bit.

595
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: I mean that that's true.

596
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: Michael could come back a whole white woman and we'd

597
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, it's Michael Jackson. That's the most famous

598
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: man that's ever lived.

599
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 5: Has anyone ever done a bigger change?

600
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: Not? Not not at that scale. Sammy Sosa, I would say, made.

601
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: And it's the same. I don't think anybody's ever done something,

602
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, like where it's like, oh,

603
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: then they change a bones. That's crazy, you know what

604
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like like that was like we we they

605
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: probably never seen anything like that. There was probably some

606
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: people that There's also been things that people have been saying,

607
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 2: like you know, like they were switching up the makeup

608
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: so you see him, you'll see him like uh in

609
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 2: rehearsal footage and stuff be darker than when you see

610
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: him performing stuff. And so like some some of it's

611
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: some like little Richard action going on, you know what

612
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And then also but I mean maybe it's

613
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: like years and years of all different types of makeup,

614
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: all different types of foundation, all different spins, you know,

615
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, you make this stuff together. They started

616
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: changing Mike Mike down. The paint is coming in and

617
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: Teddy Riley did dangerous you know what I'm saying. He

618
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: took us to Egypt. Don't think hein you know what

619
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Don't think Michael Jackson a shame of who

620
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: he is, where he came from. Johnson was in there,

621
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: and probably some people on edge about it, you know

622
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: what I mean.

623
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 5: But like, yeah, they debuted that on box.

624
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: Naomi Kimball wasn't Naomi Kimball was in the keep it,

625
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: keep It in the closet and in the clock.

626
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

627
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like people really don't let that.

628
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 5: That's a very formative video for me.

629
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the beat is great, the video is great.

630
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: I really don't understand what the song is saying.

631
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 5: No, that's not the point.

632
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Yeah, oh well that's about being

633
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: a crib exactly. Rip picture is real, you know a

634
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: picture I've always wondered. He is real. And I feel

635
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: like you're the one asked the.

636
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 5: One where he's got the bottle and the two little ladies,

637
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 5: the two little the little people ladies.

638
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 2: I know what you man?

639
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.

640
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: Clearly, I'm not the person to verify stuff is real

641
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: or not, but I've seen it. Yeah, I would love

642
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: to know the story.

643
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 5: Mean, I think about that a lot.

644
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: I say that picture like it's it's clearly somebody like

645
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: opened the door and took a picture and he looking

646
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: stressed out and it's like a lady right there by

647
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: the bed or whatever.

648
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what you're talking about with this where

649
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: he's drinking with Yeah, you're.

650
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: Familiar with this.

651
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: I tried to put it on a hoodie, but Zazzle

652
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: wouldn't let me do it.

653
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 2: What does that mean? You know, be in charge of hoodies?

654
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: Know that those websites where you could like make your

655
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: own hoodie, they were like this images and yeah they could.

656
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: I couldn't do that.

657
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 5: I also try to do one with my new ball

658
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 5: in the swimming pool. They woul't let me do that.

659
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 5: That's a good that would be a cool on a hoodie.

660
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 5: I would be a great Yeah you should get embroidered.

661
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 5: I bet they don't have the same mom.

662
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 2: So he's got like a like a forty I thought

663
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 2: you meant like a baby bottle and I was like.

664
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 7: That's intensitive. Yeah, he's not. He's like these my people. No,

665
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 7: he looks a little Denise and that's a little Mariah.

666
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: He looks so comfortable. See it again. Yeah, he looks great.

667
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 5: That's like happier than I feel like he looks at

668
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 5: most people.

669
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: They look comfy, he looks happy.

670
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know them, man, he was in our kind.

671
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 2: We don't know. We don't know. Because when he died

672
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 2: they found thirty six bottles of bleaching creams. That doesn't

673
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: mean that he used them on his skin.

674
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: So here this is I think where we get into

675
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: some of the the my concerns.

676
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 2: Okay, and you feel free to tag in wherever.

677
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: I just I did a quick google of just how

678
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: what surgeries Michael Jackson underwent, and they said he will

679
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: underwent multiple plastic surgery procedures throughout his life.

680
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: Here's a timeline of the surgery. It's all Amelia for

681
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: his proper game, just saying real. Early eighties.

682
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: They say that he had rhinoplasty, no surgery to reduce

683
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: the size of his nose. Yeah, early eighties, so it

684
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: would have to be before the PEPSI. They also said

685
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: that he started skin bleaching due to his vitiligo come

686
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: on that that really was because of the skin condition.

687
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: And I have seen interviews with his mom. She says

688
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: that he his bleaching was so severe, not his active bleaching,

689
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: but like the bleaching of his skin from videligo was

690
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: so severe, mostly under his clothes, which is why he

691
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: started wearing long sleeves everywhere. Which is why he started

692
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: wearing the glove. Was because it was like starting to spread.

693
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: It started in his chest and then spread throughout his bod.

694
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 5: I'm so sad, man, we would have took it. If

695
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 5: you'd have just been like I'm Michael Jackson, I got

696
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 5: we would.

697
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 2: Have took it. He could have winn harlowed that ship.

698
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: But there was no Winny Harlow like like that. I mean,

699
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 2: I think about that all the time. But I also

700
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 2: think that like he he would he would have had

701
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: the like really just I don't know. I feel like

702
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: the eighties was mean and he would have had to

703
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: take you know what I'm saying. I think I think

704
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: like he would have took it would have been all

705
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 2: kind of jokes. He would have took all kind of

706
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: He would have took a lot.

707
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: But he you take a lot, but just leave me alone.

708
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 5: Another great song.

709
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: Right.

710
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 3: The body, Yeah, come on, it was like the sledgehammer

711
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 3: video from that rock and roll man. But he did

712
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 3: take so much from it, right yeah, Like do you

713
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: think I don't think he would have taken more had

714
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: he let it rock than that had he gone to

715
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: the Lake City went to.

716
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: I agree, But I do feel like, you know, that

717
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: is that is the tricky thing about trying to alter

718
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 2: your appearance, and especially for like the perception of others.

719
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: You know, there's a great comedy specially about that same

720
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 2: thing called front You guys should check it out. But

721
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 2: it is the curse of that thing where you're like,

722
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 2: you're you're doing this thing and then you know, the

723
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: goal of altering your appearance is you know, acceptance, acceptance,

724
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: and sometimes reaching for that is what you know, totally

725
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: get you extracise, totally get you unaccepted. You know. But

726
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: I think his experience was so bugged out already that

727
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: it probably you know, I think that's why he was

728
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: able to be so drastic, because it's like I have

729
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: dirafts in my front yard. My life is already different,

730
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like I've been I've been

731
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: taking care of this whole family since I was eleven, Like,

732
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: you know, my life is just different. So then it's

733
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 2: just also like okay, if I you know, it might

734
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: be a physical manifestation of that of like, hey, when

735
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: you see me, No, I'm not the same, because I'm

736
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 2: not the same.

737
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's something crazy.

738
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: And in keeping your name the same, having gone from

739
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: the brokest human being alive in Gary, Indiana, you know

740
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: what I mean, like nothing literally no opportunity, no dream,

741
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: no way of accessing anything, right, and then suddenly becoming

742
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: an ascended human to the point that you are gotten,

743
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: Like people pass out when you walk into a room, right, Like, no,

744
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: and you kept the name the same, right, No, I

745
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: have to change something to be able to demonstrate the transformation.

746
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 3: Of it and the timeline on that. Right, the eighties

747
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 3: would have seemed when it was the most he was

748
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 3: the most affected by that, right, Like, that's the biggest

749
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 3: transition in his like, because that's when he goes from

750
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 3: like I that's when it becomes icon. Right, Yeah, the

751
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: eighties is king of Bop.

752
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,959
Speaker 1: I think that Jackson five were massive, but I don't

753
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: think that they were like, I don't imagine that they

754
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: were permanent in the people's minds of like, oh, this

755
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: group will be with us forever and always types.

756
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 3: And they were were they international, Like Thriller to Bad

757
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 3: is like that's like that's I think that's become Now

758
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: you're a legend, You're a living legend.

759
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that, like the the Jackson

760
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: Five are in, you know, are popular, but they thought

761
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: of as a novelty and they're put in a box

762
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: with other kids groups. I think the stuff he did

763
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: with the Jackson's when they went to Philly and gambling,

764
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: huff and stuff like some of that stuff kind of

765
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: solidified them as in the mix in an R and

766
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: B context, right, And then when you know, when basically

767
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: Off the Wall gets shunned from major category, Grammy's kind

768
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: of the same fight, Beyonce. You know, it's fighting, and

769
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: so many black artists fight as far as like like

770
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: acceptance overall the entire music industry. That's when it's like,

771
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: let's go pop, let's put gold on the jacket, let's

772
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: go for it. And then they did it, and they

773
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 2: did it so well. It was like the biggest album ever.

774
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 2: And now it's like, yeah, it gets it gets nuts.

775
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense, that sense.

776
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he had to to your point, he had

777
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: to make some changes. Yeah, do at least I'm not

778
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: saying he had to.

779
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that, like I feel, I feel for

780
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson sometimes and I feel like, you know, I

781
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: feel like, yeah, now with the twenty twenty five lens,

782
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: we can be like, yes, he could have done so

783
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: much for other people who had Villa Lago and like

784
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 2: could have been transparent and that could have been the

785
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: next you know, like you know, instead of you know,

786
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 2: he could have been vulnerable. He could have he could

787
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: have showed us blah blah blah. But also I think,

788
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: like that's a lot to ask somebody who you know, probably.

789
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 5: It also wasn't a wave like it is now right

790
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 5: to do good, to.

791
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: Be vulnerable, toable. It was still to be a good person.

792
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 2: Like none of that was cool back then.

793
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's not until recently and then

794
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: it's it's all so now died. But it wasn't until

795
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: recently that we actually wanted our heroes to be human.

796
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 5: Right, know what I mean, I don't even know if

797
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 5: we actually do.

798
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: No, that's what I mean.

799
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: I think we killed it off immediately because we saw

800
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: a bunch of human qualities and all of these people

801
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: and we were like, oh no, no, no, this is

802
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: fucking awful. Go back to being right completely separate from us,

803
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: and now we can't figure out a way to put

804
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: that back in. We wanted desperately to go away, and

805
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,959
Speaker 1: we can't fix it anymore. But no, I think Michael Jackson, yeah,

806
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: he was. He grew up in an era where there

807
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: are gods and there are men, and he was a

808
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: god and he could not show that vulnerability as a god.

809
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: That said, there are many other surgeries I'd love to

810
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 2: cover with you. That's why.

811
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: I guess in the mid eighties he apparently had additional

812
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: rhinoplasty and cheek augmentation.

813
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: Eighties he had.

814
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: Eyelid surgery and lip off augmentation.

815
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 5: That's when they got thin.

816
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: That's when they got real thin.

817
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 5: Is that when the ad libs came when it got

818
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 5: real thin, because that is.

819
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 2: There's nothing to block the.

820
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 5: Noise ship when they put this ship, that's how you

821
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 5: show it up. But look what they just did. He

822
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 5: was probably saying it the whole time, but them big

823
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 5: old juicy lips was it was getting in the way

824
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 5: I like to think he wrote man in the Mirror

825
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 5: before and he tried to sing it and he was like, no,

826
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 5: he's not ready. But it was.

827
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: Those blues lips.

828
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: Baby, you want to say them boys thin as a razor.

829
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 2: We don't realize it was for the art.

830
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 5: That's like Rocky being like, cut I can't do it right.

831
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: You got to take some juice out.

832
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 5: I got it.

833
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: I love that that this was all just a beautiful

834
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: effort towards making better music.

835
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the early.

836
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 5: Because I do like those That ship was so good.

837
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: In the early nineties.

838
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: Uh, he got multiple rhino Plastic's chin augmentation again and

839
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: breast implants, which he later removed. I think I think

840
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: they say breast. I imagine it was more chest than.

841
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 5: Okay context to with huge titties. I don't think.

842
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: Just a couple of days, you know, see what it

843
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: was hitting on blank it an't like it. He got

844
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: rid over. I thought breastfeed.

845
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: I thought with the big titties out, that would be

846
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 3: that would be crazy, that would be crazy.

847
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: Was that the You're not alone?

848
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 5: He really abandoned that. Bob fast, It's not good. I

849
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 5: think we talked about it on here before that was not.

850
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: We started to talk about and then you distracted us

851
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: with tiny Have you ever seen Michael Jackson's nipples?

852
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 5: That's right, have you? Yes?

853
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I've seen him. Olivia Smart.

854
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Olivia's shown us pictures Michael Jackson with titties

855
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 5: showing it.

856
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 2: But I'm excited Mike and a brown man.

857
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 5: Like it's supposed to No, I got I'm sorry. Continue

858
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 5: though we're talking about the bob. He got his bob.

859
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, he also in the mid nineties

860
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: got a facelift and Talx injections.

861
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: Believe I don't believe it.

862
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: In the nineties he all late nineties he got more

863
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: rhino plastics and a skin graft to repair damage from lupus. Okay, see, okay,

864
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: I am saying that picture now, and it does suck.

865
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:19,479
Speaker 5: You're right, it's tough.

866
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 1: And then in the two thousands he got additional skin

867
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: grafts and laser treatments, and then, of course, in two

868
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: thousand and nine he died from cardiac arrest from taking

869
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: all that propothoal.

870
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 5: I feel like the two thousands we weren't really seeing

871
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 5: him as much visually in court.

872
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, top of almost suburban and stuff, right, that was

873
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 2: the two thousands, A lot of umbrellas, a lot of

874
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: a lot of face masks. He was early and.

875
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 5: But but but compared to how exposed he was before,

876
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 5: Like we watched him kind of our lifetime is watching

877
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 5: him go, I think and further inside.

878
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: I think he went through so many sort of like

879
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: heartbreaks just with like the the accusations around obviously the

880
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: him being you know, a sex criminal, but then additionally

881
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: like the ship with his kids and like getting sort

882
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: of exposed for whatever those weird relationships were, all the

883
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: civil trials, he was facing down all the weird like then.

884
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: Remember there was a period where he had started like

885
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: suing his company, his record label for racial injustice, and

886
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: he had like linked up with Johnny Cochrane trying to

887
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: like recoup funds off of what he claimed was them

888
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: trying to tank his career. Like, I think he was

889
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: so disillusioned with the world that you had to put

890
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: an umbrella up and go inside.

891
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 2: He had Johnny Cochrane first, though he had Johnny Cochran

892
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: before oj Oh, he was before OJH. Yeah, he might

893
00:51:55,160 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: have gave number WOA n art back in the nineties

894
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: Johnny cockran was on board, and then either Johnny Coger

895
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 2: had to leave or they settled or whatever. Yeah, Johnny

896
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: Cocker left and then they settled. There's something Johnny Coger

897
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: don't take no ls, you know what I'm saying. So

898
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 2: then yeah, but then then when OJ got away, Johnny

899
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 2: cogre and it was like he got lawyer to the stars.

900
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: That's crazy. If that's the that's who OJ called.

901
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's I'm just saying, Mike, I

902
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: need a number one man, I could call. Oh, Johnny,

903
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 2: I wouldn't give you this number. But I heard you

904
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: had a glove on, so you know, gloves got to

905
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 2: stick together. Man, you believe that was his real voice?

906
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: I do not believe. No, that wasn't his voice. No,

907
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: we've heard, yeah, we've heard his real voice.

908
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 5: Man.

909
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, in that in the recordings for the video game.

910
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, that boy game. Yeah, that's what

911
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: it was.

912
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 2: The game. They have to lost files of him. Ready

913
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: to Rumble. I wish they had told us that was him.

914
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: You know, I mean arguments I had in school. It

915
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: ain't no real Michael Jackson voice. You don't even know about.

916
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 2: Ready to rumble it was really him. That's crazy nuts

917
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: because I think they couldn't advertise it. I think Michael

918
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 2: Jackson was in such hot water at the time. I

919
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 2: don't think they could really advertise that it was him

920
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: in the game. But yeah, I thought that's why he

921
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 2: changed his voice. Yeah.

922
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, out of respect to what y'all

923
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: got going, and you're still going to represent me, I'll

924
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: give you my voice, I'll change it.

925
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: I'll just give you a different Michael Jackson. He made

926
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 2: some of the songs for Sonic.

927
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 5: I didn't know that original.

928
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 2: One of the like like, yeah, the same video game,

929
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 2: video game Crazy produce some of somemer Sonic Underwater. That

930
00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: was crazy.

931
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 5: Man, that was good.

932
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: That's really hang out to just listen to the song

933
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 3: and he starts tapping his foot and he puts his hand.

934
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: On They were still from music though back in those days.

935
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: They you know, it's like the wiwid Wess. Nobody was

936
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: protecting IP in the sixteen bit forms, so it's like, yeah,

937
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 2: there's some songs just like man, this let's sound familiar

938
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 2: and it was just taking stuff that sucks. I guess

939
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: it's also pretty cool.

940
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 5: I don't know, pretty cool some of some of legal uh.

941
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: And I say this fully being a person who I

942
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: hope doesn't get all of his proper propriety ideas whatever stolen.

943
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 1: I I really don't like the laws around like fair use.

944
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: I really feel like you made some ship I should

945
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: be able to just I want to put your song

946
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: in my thing and I don't want to have to

947
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: ask for it.

948
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 2: And I know that's not nice, right, but I guess

949
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,959
Speaker 2: just to prevent people from just totally jacking your song

950
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: and just you know, and I think on it and

951
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: then it's like, nah, it's my song. I think there

952
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: should be.

953
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: Laws around that. I think that's crazy. If you made something,

954
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: it should be yours, and it should you should be

955
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: paid properly for that, right. I just hate that the

956
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: way that artists are forced to make their money is

957
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: by having to manage all existence of their song anywhere, right,

958
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: rather than you just getting paid off of the greatness

959
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: of something you made and then anybody can throw it

960
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: on their fucking DVD because it's a great song and

961
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: we can all appreciate that you got paid properly for.

962
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 5: It, right, right, Yeah, But that's never gonna.

963
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: Happen, and that's My problem is that fair use is

964
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: just us being punished for you all being snakes with

965
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: the very artists you claim to represent.

966
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 2: That's real, that's real. But I mean, like it sucks now,

967
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: Like I feel like this generation I hear I see,

968
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: you know, being that I received so much Michael Jackson stuff.

969
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 2: I get into Michael Jackson versus Prince stuff all the time.

970
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: There's so many people that don't have knowledge of prints

971
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: because he was so protective of his IP online from

972
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: the mid two thousands basically until he died, and so

973
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 2: there's so much Prince stuff that that people didn't discover.

974
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 2: There's so many people that don't have knowledge of prints.

975
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: They're like, why would you even compare these two? But

976
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 2: part of that is because they don't even know how

977
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 2: like crazy Prince was going in the eighties. They don't

978
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 2: know about a lot of his music. They don't know

979
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: about a lot, you know, a lot of his influence

980
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: and all of that. And it's like, you know, but

981
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 2: part of that was because he was so tight, Like

982
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 2: if you had a baby dance in the nineteen ninety nine,

983
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 2: he'd pull it down.

984
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, did you if y'all heard

985
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: about the Prince documentary.

986
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: Oh they pulled it, right, the state pulled it. Yeah.

987
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: So Netflix basically commissions this documentary from the same dude

988
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: who made the OJ documentary, the one that was like this.

989
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 8: So it's like it's not like a puff piece, it's

990
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 8: like a no. This was like a true deep dive.

991
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 8: And apparently I learned all this on the daily. But

992
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 8: apparently he went to the vault because that's how they

993
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 8: They basically, you know, Netflix got the rights to what

994
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 8: was in the vault, and so they went to him

995
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 8: and were like, we're giving you all his ship, go

996
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 8: in the vault, go ahead and make the documentary. He

997
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 8: goes in the vault, he's like, bro, all the meaningful

998
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 8: shit has been scrubbed. That like, Prince was so on

999
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 8: top of it in terms of keeping it private. He

1000
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 8: scrubbed anything that would have been like a sort of

1001
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 8: casual moment or anything that was like caught off guard,

1002
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 8: ass Prince. It just is all clean photos and shiny shit,

1003
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 8: right Yeah, And so he's pissed because like, this sucks.

1004
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: I've been I got access to the vault and it

1005
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: still sucks. I'm never gonna learn about this dude. And

1006
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: he goes on a six year mission talking to every

1007
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: single person who considered themselves in any way, shape form

1008
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: close to Prince who will talk to him, and truly

1009
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: makes what they described in the Daily as a masterpiece

1010
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: of a documentary about this dude, really exploring like most

1011
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: of his childhood, unpacking all of this trauma that created

1012
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: the character, like really like digging into relationships and his

1013
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: sort of like abuses and also like the abuse that

1014
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: he put out, like all kinds of shit unpacked. And

1015
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: then the family the estate saw it and was like,

1016
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: we gave them seventeen pages worth of notes, being like

1017
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: we don't want this in there, We don't want that

1018
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: in there. That can't exist. Nobody needs to know about this,

1019
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. And he was like, Yo,

1020
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: I can give you like a taste, but I can't.

1021
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: I can't lie about what I've discovered. And then the

1022
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 1: Netflix and them were just like fine, then they don't

1023
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,479
Speaker 1: never exist, and they it's gone.

1024
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 2: Somebody got it, somebody, somebody, somebody got it. That might

1025
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 2: be my new mission to get the freaking Prince doc bro.

1026
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: I have mixed feelings about it, if I'm being honest

1027
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: with you really. Yeah. Yeah.

1028
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: A part of me is like, well, obviously I want

1029
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: to see the documentary. I'm such a massive Prince fan.

1030
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: It would mean the world to me to know more

1031
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: about this person. But I also think he did it.

1032
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: He beat the fucking game.

1033
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 5: Bro. That's what I was thinking, is you were describing it.

1034
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 5: I was like, damn, he got away clean.

1035
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: He set out to keep his world private despite being

1036
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: arguably the most talented human being that's ever walked the

1037
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: face of the earth.

1038
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 2: Right.

1039
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm going to leave this world with

1040
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: you knowing nothing about me, and he did it. Yeah,

1041
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: and he If you can do that, you deserve that privacy.

1042
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: You deserve to go into whatever after life exists for

1043
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: you knowing that you beat the game instead of this

1044
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: other version of the game where like a person dies

1045
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: and then we dig through all their ship and go.

1046
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 2: Ain't just crazy? He had this the whole time. Yeah,

1047
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: that's what I didn't know about that. Oh no, he

1048
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 2: could still have his privacy. I'm not gonna tell nobody.

1049
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 2: I just want to see it. You just need nobody,

1050
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 2: nobody else gotta know. Yeah, I just want to see it.

1051
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: I think the hard part is there are one billion

1052
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: people on the planet. You feel the same way.

1053
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 2: I won't do it nobody. I ain't gonna clip it.

1054
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna make no content. You know what I'm saying.

1055
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna see it, and you know, I ain't

1056
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 2: gonna talk about it and let somebody else see it.

1057
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 2: There we go, that's somebody else side. Then we have

1058
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: a conversation. Lest love had to see it.

1059
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: Yo, you see that there's no one they call you,

1060
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: they go, they gonna rob We're gonna do a private

1061
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: screening just you, no one else. We're gonna let you

1062
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: watch the Prince documentary. You watch the entire Prince documentary,

1063
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: you of tears in your eyes by the end of it.

1064
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: It is that meaningful to you too at this moment.

1065
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: And then you walk out of that documentary. You go

1066
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: back to your home, you go back to your wife.

1067
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: There's no fucking way in the world that while y'all

1068
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: are brushing your teeth late at night, you don't go

1069
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,479
Speaker 1: the documentary was pretty crazy. Yeah, I would tell my girl,

1070
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna tell somebody.

1071
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 2: I know, I'm gonna tell my wife. She can't even

1072
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 2: testify me.

1073
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: Don't know that man, there's no way your wife isn't

1074
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: going back to her very challenging job and then being like,

1075
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: what were y'all up to this weekend? I do much,

1076
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna tell you I've got to see that Princeton. Yeah,

1077
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: everything is gonna it's it's gonna become public knowledge.

1078
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 2: This never stays private.

1079
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 5: You mean that being said? How many people worked on it?

1080
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 5: There's like a lot of people have seen it. I'm

1081
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 5: sure on the documentary. Yeah, I bet a lot of

1082
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 5: people have seen it, but ed there's like the whole

1083
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 5: I bet a lot of it. A lot of what it.

1084
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: Is we know now because just of word of mouth

1085
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: that he was both controlling and abusive and complicated. Is

1086
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: ultimately what it all shows is that like he was abused,

1087
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: was put out of his childhood home at twelve by

1088
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: his mom, then at.

1089
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 5: Fourteen by his dad. He truly had to get it,

1090
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 5: was he when they found him in that park, That's

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: He had to get it out the mud at like

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Speaker 1: seventeen A crazy Yeah, I assume he just played the

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Speaker 1: album for his parents and they were like, well, you

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Speaker 1: don't need to go to college. No, Yo, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: His mom was like apparently super like cold and like,

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Speaker 1: and their relationship was toxic. But then he moved in

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Speaker 1: with his dad, who he loved and admired, but his

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Speaker 1: dad was hello religious, Yeah, would like beat.

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Speaker 2: The shit out of him. Some even have a cover

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Speaker 2: of HNDS.

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Speaker 1: But that's also part of what they claim makes the

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01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: documentary so masterful, is that all these songs that you

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Speaker 1: thought were about sex and sexuality are actually like just

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01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: hammered with this duality where it's also about like a

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01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: person struggling to find community, a person struggling to like

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Speaker 1: to place their identity in a world that has rejected

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Speaker 1: them from the beginning. It's it's like it creates like

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Speaker 1: all these fucking layers for who the human is. But

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Speaker 1: also he didn't want us to know. And I kind

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Speaker 1: of respect that he figured out a way to keep

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Speaker 1: that so quiet. Crazy that Minnesota is the backdrop for

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Speaker 1: all this the whole time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I respect it. I do feel like the

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Speaker 2: reason his estate is protecting this is not for him,

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01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: not for this him, but just because it might affect

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Speaker 2: the bottom line. There might be some people that are like,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to play Prince music anymore, knowing certain

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Speaker 2: things and that's all they care about, you, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like Prince Music was U title only that's

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Speaker 2: the reason that I had titled The Minute He Died.

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Speaker 2: We go into train station, it's Spotify ads for Prince

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Speaker 2: all over the train stations. Like you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: Like they just some people in that camp just out

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Speaker 2: to make a book.

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Speaker 3: You know, it does feel it is very disheartening, Like

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Speaker 3: when you go to the Minneapolis airport and there's that

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Speaker 3: Prince store. Yeah, you're damn if there was some shit

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Speaker 3: he would have hated it was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't want this. He didn't want that at all.

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Speaker 1: And the documentarian talks about it in the interview that

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Speaker 1: I listened to. He talks a lot about how like

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Speaker 1: even going to Paisley Park, it's not like you're being

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Speaker 1: informed on who Prince is.

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Speaker 2: It truly is just a big gift shop.

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Speaker 1: Like it they've turned it into like a fucking, you know,

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01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: rock cafe for Prince. More than it is like a

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01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: real testament to like his ever changing positions on like

1139
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: the world, on responsibility, the nigga died at Jehovah's witness,

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Speaker 1: It's not even like.

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Speaker 5: One of the numbers.

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Speaker 1: How many there's one hundred and sixty thousand or something

1143
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: like that. It's something crazy, you the proud. No, I mean,

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01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: we're you're not even given the chance to get to

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01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: know who he is based off of the estate, even

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01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: regardless of like what becomes the more complicated details of

1147
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: his past. It won't even give you a chance to

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01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: do basic knowledge on what prince who prince was, And

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01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: so in that way, it is disheartening where you go. No,

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Speaker 1: I think it would be really good for us as

1151
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 1: humans to know that our heroes can again be these

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01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: complicated figures and still valuable. That said, I also respect

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01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: that my hero really pulled a fast one on us,

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01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: and I gotta say, big up, man, you did it.

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Speaker 2: I can argule it with that, I do. I do

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01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 2: you know when you put it that way, I do

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01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 2: feel like that is ill. And yeah, I was looking

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01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 2: forward to, like, now we're going to your stuff. Yeah,

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01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 2: I think that's the you know, the better way to

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01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,959
Speaker 2: just yeah, chalk it up to the game.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: Man, man, he.

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Speaker 3: Might be the last one, because I don't think a

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Speaker 3: lot of people win that hundred. I don't think that's

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Speaker 3: really I don't think a lot of people win.

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Speaker 2: That Daniel da lewis him. He's still alive? Yeahis he

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Speaker 2: still us?

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Speaker 5: We don't know.

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01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:45,919
Speaker 2: He might, he might, he might slap somebody. I don't

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Speaker 2: know where he's at. He keeps it pretty private. Yeah,

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01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 2: we'll see he met it. Who are playing next?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Frank Ocean kind of? But

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01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: he got messy friends, so we've been learning. Yeah, it's

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01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: about him every once in a while. Yeah, I don't know, man,

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Speaker 1: it's not a lot of of the privates left.

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Speaker 5: So and I hate to say this on this medium.

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Speaker 5: A lot of that is because podcasting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we're for sure too much. How much of

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Speaker 1: this is just gossip? Well you just come on here

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Speaker 1: and gossip.

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Speaker 2: Oh I thought you knew. We just got I just

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01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 2: don't see it. I think we did it.

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01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: I think it was like I think certainly, I still

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01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: believe Michael Jackson got a lot more surgeries than you do.

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01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: But I do I guess if I may, I do

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Speaker 1: think there may be is a more complicated reasoning behind

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Speaker 1: the surgeries than just self hatred the way that it's

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Speaker 1: often been.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's I've been painted this This man wanted to

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Speaker 2: be white Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't see it

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Speaker 2: like more complicated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's definitely more complicated than you may

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01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: never spun like he's.

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01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 2: I tried.

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Speaker 5: I tried a lot of spinning.

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01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 2: I gotta scar my chair, try to do the smooth

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01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 2: criminal lean, not knowing that like, yeah, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. It was shoo technology. I just thought, if

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Speaker 2: you change your calves the right way, you know what

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01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 2: I'm saying, you can get back up and then about.

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Speaker 5: That man to the floor and yeah, gotta be strong though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a bunch of us that even

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Speaker 1: with that technology wouldn't come closer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly not right through them special shoot Yeah yeah, yeah.

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01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 2: I supposed the whole trick to the world zion hole

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Speaker 2: in them.

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Speaker 1: There's no way in the world, Rob, could you tell

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Speaker 1: the people where they can find you?

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Speaker 2: You can find me? Uh. I'm on the Inconsistent podcast

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01:08:56,360 --> 01:09:00,839
Speaker 2: of Rob Hayes comes out when it's ready. Uh yeah,

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01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,839
Speaker 2: you know it's in assistent in Brandon and in Nature.

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01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 2: I do the end season podcast with my boy Jamel Johnson.

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01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 2: Also watch Little keV. Yeah, also fronting out now. It's

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Speaker 2: on all streaming platforms it's an album. It's also especially

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01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 2: you can watch on YouTube. Be like watching people talk.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, oh yeah, go watch Rob. Go go listen

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01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 2: to Rob Go watch this shit what you got?

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Speaker 3: April twenty fifth and twenty sixth, I'm gonna be at

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Speaker 3: the Dallas Comedy Club May eight through eleventh. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: be with Rob right, Oh no, in are you going

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Speaker 3: to New Orleans?

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Speaker 2: Maybe I won't be with Rob, but I'll be. I'll

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Speaker 2: be in New Orleans May eight through eleventh.

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Speaker 5: Cool Guy Joke City seven on Instagram, Patreon, dot com,

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Speaker 5: dot slash David Bori by my special Birth of a Nation.

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Speaker 5: It's the best special I've ever had.

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Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, that's what actively true.

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Speaker 5: I want to say that every special I like that.

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