Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 2: Hi James, how are you guys?
Speaker 3: Nice to meet you great, how's it going good?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 3: How are you doing great? We're such big fans. We're
Speaker 3: really excited about this. We we love your work and
Speaker 3: I have so many questions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we love hot dogs, but we love food.
Speaker 2: In general, so we can be friends.
Speaker 1: It's looking like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, congratulations third place at the Nathan's
Speaker 3: Hot Dog Championship. I mean that's that's the thing an
Speaker 3: amateur eater like me dreams of. So congratulations that is massive.
Speaker 1: Really, yes, like you want to do professional eating?
Speaker 3: Yes, that is living the dream. Yes, I want to
Speaker 3: do this so badly.
Speaker 1: How did you get into this? How did it all start?
Speaker 2: It's kind of my wife's fault, to be honest with you.
Speaker 2: So I'm not a drinker, personal choice. But my wife
Speaker 2: wanted to go visit a winery, a famous vineyard and winery,
Speaker 2: like three hours from where we live in Australia. So
Speaker 2: to bribe me to go, because she knows I'm not
Speaker 2: going to sit in a car for three hours to
Speaker 2: go like do some bougie wine tasting thing, she planned
Speaker 2: like your day trip of beating. Anyway, So fudge factory,
Speaker 2: cheese factory, you know, pub for lunch. Whatever. Turns out
Speaker 2: the pub had a food challenge, and I had no
Speaker 2: idea about food challenges. I didn't know the caliber of
Speaker 2: food challenge or the levels. But the owner of the
Speaker 2: pub was a little bit maybe one too many beers
Speaker 2: for morning brunch and you know, a bit mouthy. When
Speaker 2: I went to order my lunch and he was bragging
Speaker 2: about this burger challenge, I'm like, I'll try it, okay, whatever,
Speaker 2: Like what's the worst that can happen? You know. He's like, well,
Speaker 2: it's going to cost you eighty bucks. I'm like, okay, anyway,
Speaker 2: So did this burger challenge unbeknownst to me, Like every
Speaker 2: time someone fails, the owner puts like ten bucks in
Speaker 2: the piggybank. Fifty five people had failed, so the piggybank
Speaker 2: was aut five hundred and fifty bucks, right, going to
Speaker 2: what do you give this a go? Pretty much it's
Speaker 2: five kilos, so that's like ten pounds a big burger
Speaker 2: and I ate it in twenty three minutes, and not
Speaker 2: understanding what I had just kind of done, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I won five hundred bucks. Like cool, let's get on
Speaker 2: with our day, you know. But the video that the
Speaker 2: owner made kind of went crazy, like mainstream media, the
Speaker 2: biggest news outlets in Australia, and like within twenty four hours,
Speaker 2: I had all these messages from like competitive eaters messaging
Speaker 2: me saying you're really good at this. I'm like, what
Speaker 2: the hell is this? And honestly, like they invited me
Speaker 2: to like a contest, and I went to the contest
Speaker 2: like three days later. I won the contest and it
Speaker 2: kind of just started this competitive eating thing.
Speaker 1: What was the first contest? Would you have to eat?
Speaker 2: It was a cheeseburger and fries, so like two pounds.
Speaker 2: I did it in like one minute twenty and I
Speaker 2: beat like all the competitive eaters in Australia without even
Speaker 2: realizing who these people were. Like these guys were like
Speaker 2: big time like four years ago, like half a million
Speaker 2: followers doing exactly what I'm doing now, but like in Australia,
Speaker 2: and I beat them all without knowing who these people are.
Speaker 2: I wasn't on social media. I just kind of did it.
Speaker 2: Never seen a tripody in my life or a microphone,
Speaker 2: and I kind of did it. And to be honest
Speaker 2: to this day, the record still stands, and it just
Speaker 2: it just kicked off everything.
Speaker 1: So you went into it with no strategy, nothing.
Speaker 2: Honestly, for the contest, I actually left work early and
Speaker 2: stopped at subway on the way to get some lunch.
Speaker 2: And yeah, because I didn't I didn't know, Like I
Speaker 2: kind of just like I love burgers, like I'll go
Speaker 2: down and do it, meet these people like whatever. At
Speaker 2: the time I was, I was pretty introverted, believe it
Speaker 2: or so, like I'm like, oh, yeah, these guys wan like, oh,
Speaker 2: go down whatever. So like I got somewhere on the way,
Speaker 2: I had some lunch, went to this burgs test and like, honestly,
Speaker 2: like that like three or four day period, it really
Speaker 2: changed everything for me.
Speaker 1: Wow, the burger and fries. Did you eat the fries
Speaker 1: first or the burger first?
Speaker 2: The burger first? Okay, it just choice because the burger
Speaker 2: was like a tower, so I had to hold it.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, eh, if I get the burger out
Speaker 2: of the way, I'm pretty clumsy, so I'm like, knowing me,
Speaker 2: it's going to drop everywhere and make a mess. So
Speaker 2: I just didn't want to be embarrassing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so curious, Like, so, I mean speed is
Speaker 3: like that first one, the very first one you did
Speaker 3: that like ten pound burger, that that was just a
Speaker 3: can you finish it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: That wasn't like a you weren't you were timed, but
Speaker 3: like you didn't have to do an underserard amount of time.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so you get thirty minutes.
Speaker 3: Thirty minutes okay, and then after that's just like how
Speaker 3: fast can you do it? Are you doing like are
Speaker 3: you trying to shove the entire thing in your mouth?
Speaker 3: That I'm curious what's the strategy there?
Speaker 2: To be honest, right, So I really had no idea
Speaker 2: what I had signed up for, like, to be honest,
Speaker 2: all they did they make you sign this waiver, so
Speaker 2: if you like choke, you know, it's not on them
Speaker 2: that they make you sit at this table like in
Speaker 2: the courtyard, like in the middle of the courtyard, so
Speaker 2: like you can't get up off the table. The whole
Speaker 2: place is watching you say you know, you can't cheat
Speaker 2: or whatever, So I'm like, okay, whatever. Cool. I literally
Speaker 2: like got my knife and fork and started cutting it
Speaker 2: up because it was too big to hold. Actually, during
Speaker 2: that challenge, my mom actually called and I'm like, hey, mom,
Speaker 2: like my hands are actually full like putty back soon.
Speaker 2: I didn't really understand what I was doing. I just
Speaker 2: kind of ate it, like you know the video. It's
Speaker 2: funny now watching back that video because from time to
Speaker 2: time it still circulates. I was like getting all the
Speaker 2: like the rest of the vegetables and stuff, like with
Speaker 2: my knife and fork and like shoveling it in and stuff.
Speaker 2: I honestly didn't know what I was doing. I just
Speaker 2: ate it like as neatly as possible. And I did
Speaker 2: it in twenty three minutes without even understanding any strategy,
Speaker 2: any technique. You know. I've been back since then to
Speaker 2: redo it. I've done it in twelve minutes, so like
Speaker 2: almost half the time, and now I know what I know. Right.
Speaker 3: This is why it's so it's so interesting. Okay, this
Speaker 3: may sound like a damn question, but like does it
Speaker 3: does it even taste good when you're when you're like
Speaker 3: doing it competitively, Like are you like, oh wow, this
Speaker 3: this is good? Or is it just like I need
Speaker 3: to get this inside of me as fast as possible.
Speaker 2: It's a bit of both, to be honest. Take it forward.
Speaker 2: It is in a lot of contests the food isn't great, yeah,
Speaker 2: because you know, like like, for for example, I have
Speaker 2: a rib contest this weekend. There's going to be twelve competitors.
Speaker 2: I'm going to try and eat ten pounds of ribs,
Speaker 2: so they're probably cooking like one hundred pounds of ribs.
Speaker 2: So inherently it's not going to be great, you know.
Speaker 2: But like when it comes to like a food challenge
Speaker 2: or when I do my social media content, you know
Speaker 2: by the second bite if it's going to be a
Speaker 2: good or bad time. And honestly, for the most part,
Speaker 2: like it's it's a blessing because like if it's good,
Speaker 2: you get to you get to the best part faster,
Speaker 2: but if it's bad, you kind of get her of
Speaker 2: and done with, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, get across the board.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What is your favorite food to eat in a competition?
Speaker 2: The easiest way to answer that is it's all dependent
Speaker 2: on what you like. So I love pizza. I love sweets,
Speaker 2: so I have two doughnut World records. I love chicken wings,
Speaker 2: so I've got two chicken wing World records as well. Honestly,
Speaker 2: like contest food, it's always about like you always do
Speaker 2: better in the contest where you enjoy the food, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? So for me, I'll always opt
Speaker 2: for the chicken wings, donut or pizza contests.
Speaker 1: So on the chicken wing, what defines how much you're eating?
Speaker 2: Like do you have to eat the gristle to so
Speaker 2: you start with everyone starts with a twenty pound bowl
Speaker 2: and it's weighed, and basically like, look, you're not so
Speaker 2: you can't eat the bones obviously because you're freaking you know,
Speaker 2: you'll end you But like, honestly, you pick up a wing,
Speaker 2: you get as much of the meat and gristle whatever
Speaker 2: you can get your mouth on at the time, and
Speaker 2: you put it back in the bowl. Because the end
Speaker 2: of the contest, they weigh the bowl so as bowl wins.
Speaker 2: So if you just take one chunk out of a
Speaker 2: wing and chuck it back in, you can do that.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the contest, obviously whoever's eating
Speaker 2: the most meat wins, you know, So it's all that
Speaker 2: technique actually, like how quick you can strip the meat
Speaker 2: off the bone and get onto your next wing, like
Speaker 2: as soon as possible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you said you had a rib contest, I
Speaker 3: was wondering if it was like like when you watch
Speaker 3: like Heath Cliff eat a fish like you just like
Speaker 3: putt and pull off the bone.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's a lot of technique, right yeah, because
Speaker 2: again it's all weighed, right, so the lightest bowl will win. Right.
Speaker 2: You start with like a tray. I think they do
Speaker 2: trays of ten pounds, So you start with like a
Speaker 2: tray and basically, like the quicker, you can strip the
Speaker 2: meat off the bone and get the bone back in.
Speaker 2: You know. That's obviously the more meat you eat. Sorry
Speaker 2: that didn't mean to didn't mean to rhyme, but the
Speaker 2: more meat you can get in a lot of time.
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna you're gonna win, right, Yeah, yeah, Well
Speaker 1: do you still like like going out for dinner?
Speaker 2: To be honest, I love food. I've always loved food.
Speaker 2: If anything, I enjoy food a lot more now because, like,
Speaker 2: for example, like my wife super indecisive, So when we
Speaker 2: go out to eat, she can't decide do I want beef,
Speaker 2: do I want chicken? Do I want pasta? I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: get it all and we'll just share everything. Right, So
Speaker 2: going out actually is super fun because like I just
Speaker 2: create like a buffet on the table and like you
Speaker 2: can choose whatever.
Speaker 1: Do you have to pace yourself when you're at dinner,
Speaker 1: are you like wo wait, wait.
Speaker 2: Slow noodnest The funniest part, honestly, the funniest part is Okay.
Speaker 2: So when you're in a contest, right, your only tool
Speaker 2: is your drink, So you're programmed never let go of
Speaker 2: your cup, right, because that's your only thing if you're
Speaker 2: choking or you need to get it down faster. You
Speaker 2: got this cup of drink. You got to get it
Speaker 2: down right. But obviously when you're eating fast, you make
Speaker 2: mess whatever. Your hands get greasy, so if you drop
Speaker 2: the cup and you have to pick it up again,
Speaker 2: like it's hard. So you're programmed to grip your cup
Speaker 2: and never let go of it right. I go to
Speaker 2: a restaurant with my wife and I don't even know
Speaker 2: what's going on. My hand's on my cup, like on
Speaker 2: the table, and she's like, idiot, it's not a competition.
Speaker 2: You can like let go of your cup, and I
Speaker 2: look down my forearm is like pulsating, like gripping the cup. Right.
Speaker 2: So that's one of the worst habits that I've had
Speaker 2: to like be conscious about in like a social setting
Speaker 2: because I'm just programmed to hold onto my Cup for
Speaker 2: dear life.
Speaker 3: Wow. Competitive eating is so interesting because it's like most
Speaker 3: of the competitions, like if you're playing baseball, you're playing again.
Speaker 3: But everyone has to eat ideally multiple times a day,
Speaker 3: and so like having to compartment analize that part of
Speaker 3: your brain is so fascinating, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: It is a lot like anything, right, if you want
Speaker 2: to be good at something, you have to train, you've
Speaker 2: got to practice, and you've got to like you know,
Speaker 2: I guess, like like you said, eat multiple times a day,
Speaker 2: I'm programmed now to eat once a day. Eat wants
Speaker 2: to me like a maniac, and like leave it at that.
Speaker 1: Wow, So that's when you're in training.
Speaker 2: Yes, so like normally, yeah, but the contest season is
Speaker 2: so long.
Speaker 1: So like are you eating ribs right now? Leaving up
Speaker 1: to the competition.
Speaker 2: So I'm actually got my See I want to win,
Speaker 2: so I've got to practice, right, So I've actually got
Speaker 2: my first practice run tomorrow. So yeah, tomorrow, well I'm
Speaker 2: going to eat his ribs. But honestly, depending on the
Speaker 2: contest and like, look, we all have things we're better
Speaker 2: at and whatever else, but we have to practice. So like,
Speaker 2: for example, to the chicken wing contest in September. I'll
Speaker 2: be eating nothing but chicken wings for the week leading
Speaker 2: into it contest, all of us. But like the last
Speaker 2: four or five weeks, all you're doing is eating hot
Speaker 2: dogs every second day, right, because you want to practice,
Speaker 2: like you got to perform on the day, so you've
Speaker 2: got to get your speed and technique.
Speaker 3: Like ready, well we're talking to James Web. James can
Speaker 3: eat the competitive eater from down Under. Have you seen
Speaker 3: a food competition that doesn't work? Like I'm trying to think,
Speaker 3: like is there a fing that you can't compete with?
Speaker 3: Like saltine crackers? Like isn't there scientifically you can only
Speaker 3: eat like six of them at a time? Or yeah,
Speaker 3: that's like a whole Have you done a saltine challenge?
Speaker 3: Have you done that before?
Speaker 2: I am not, But to be honest, right, like whatever
Speaker 2: whatever is out there as information recommendations, when it comes
Speaker 2: to competitive eating, that goes out the window. I mean
Speaker 2: you've seen we've chugged lemonade. You know, we've done McDonald's,
Speaker 2: We've done foods you probably should not eat in abundance,
Speaker 2: Like my world record is thirteen point five pounds of
Speaker 2: fudge in eight minutes like that. That's a little crazy, right,
Speaker 2: like that, that's a lot of fudge, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: I'm so jealous of you that you have these stats,
Speaker 3: like you know exactly how much fudge you can eat
Speaker 3: in a certain amount of time. I'm so jealous of
Speaker 3: that information. I want to know that about me.
Speaker 2: Honestly, Like you Americans, you find a way to turn
Speaker 2: everything into a sport. It's honest, it's so cool. That's
Speaker 2: why I'm here, right Like you guys found eating a
Speaker 2: normal day to day thing and you weaponize it and
Speaker 2: turns it into a sport. And I'm like, and I'm
Speaker 2: just here to be the best man. I just want
Speaker 2: to compete USA.
Speaker 3: Seriously, Yes, we're very proud of our eating here.
Speaker 1: Have you ever done food?
Speaker 2: I did food competition?
Speaker 3: I did, and actually, James, I'm curious what you think
Speaker 3: of this. I did a a competition at a restaurant
Speaker 3: in my hometown and it was like it was a
Speaker 3: chocolate thing. It was like six chocolate pancakes, four flowerless
Speaker 3: chocolate cookies, like six groups of chocolate ice cream, and
Speaker 3: then chocolate milk that you had to finish. And I
Speaker 3: was like, oh easy, Oh my god. I got. I
Speaker 3: did not finish it. I got like halfway through it
Speaker 3: almost threw up. It was so bad, And I had
Speaker 3: such a newfound respect for people of your discipline.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, chocolate's hard, man, that's rough, like the dessert.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could do that. I did.
Speaker 1: I did one in Texas where it was like eat
Speaker 1: the biggest steak. It was like a giant steak, but you.
Speaker 2: Had to have the second fastest time, the one in Amarilla, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you have to eat like the side
Speaker 1: salad and like the baked potato, like you have to
Speaker 1: eat all the.
Speaker 2: Like yeah yeah, with all the second fastest time ever.
Speaker 2: I did it in I think it was just over
Speaker 2: five minutes, but I know not.
Speaker 1: Wow, wait what does that mean? Like use your hand?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So like okay, so I look, we could like
Speaker 2: to be fair. Molly who has the record, she literally
Speaker 2: picked up the stake like a slice of pizza and
Speaker 2: just smashed it. Right. But actually, when I went to
Speaker 2: go do the challenge, it was on a Friday, and
Speaker 2: I'd never been to Amarilla before. I didn't realize that
Speaker 2: the big text is so iconic. Right. I went down
Speaker 2: on a Friday night and it was so busy and
Speaker 2: a bunch of people recognized me. There was like kids, families,
Speaker 2: like grandparents, and I'm like, this is not the scene
Speaker 2: to like go ham and do some crazy stuff. So
Speaker 2: I tried to be as sensible as I could. But
Speaker 2: it actually worked out because I didn't realize I got
Speaker 2: the second fastest time ever. But I made the news
Speaker 2: for like eating it with a knife quickly. It was
Speaker 2: just funny. It actually made the bullst video ever because
Speaker 2: you watch videos of the big text and everyone's picking
Speaker 2: it up like a slice and trying to fold it
Speaker 2: like a sandwich, and I'm here like doing this. It
Speaker 2: actually worked out. It was just a bunch of fun.
Speaker 3: So let's get to methodology. So we're before we hopped on,
Speaker 3: we were talking about it's it's fairly standard in a
Speaker 3: hot dog contest, like would dunk it in the glass
Speaker 3: of water right to like soften up the buns so
Speaker 3: you can swallow it like a fish. Is that so?
Speaker 3: Is that how you do it too?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So obviously dunking is not a good time, but
Speaker 2: in some contests it's absolutely necessary if you want to
Speaker 2: be competitive. Yeah, in contests, you're allowed to most contests
Speaker 2: you're allowed to select whatever drink you want as long
Speaker 2: as it's non alcoholic. So I'm a cranberry juice fan.
Speaker 2: I don't really like water plus chalky buns and waters
Speaker 2: and it doesn't do it for me, So I dunked
Speaker 2: my bunny in cranberry juice.
Speaker 3: What a flavor profile that must.
Speaker 1: Be, like doctor Pepper like coke that would be good though, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: You don't have so you can't. Like if you use
Speaker 2: carbonated drinks, you risk burping, So burping you waste time.
Speaker 2: Like I've lost the contest by like a small burp,
Speaker 2: Like thinking when you lose by like a mouthful of food,
Speaker 2: like a quarter sized chunk of food, it's because you
Speaker 2: took too much breath, like you burped or had a
Speaker 2: hard swallow, Like it all kind of comes into account,
Speaker 2: like at the top end for the most part, it's
Speaker 2: super competitive, and like you've got to really like we
Speaker 2: trained to not burp or to swallow and burp at
Speaker 2: the same time, Like you have to practice all this stuff.
Speaker 3: Are you just like sitting in your house, like eating
Speaker 3: hot dogs, steering at a picture of Joey chest and
Speaker 3: I just going home.
Speaker 2: One day To be honest, I line up a bunch
Speaker 2: of hot dogs in the backyard, and I play the
Speaker 2: last test of the TV super loud, and yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: the Joey chest night. It gets your roof up when
Speaker 2: you just go right. It's truthfully what we all do.
Speaker 3: I love it. It's like pumping iron. It's great, all that
Speaker 3: competitive energy.
Speaker 2: It's exactly like that.
Speaker 1: What happens following a contest?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: In as much details you can just so like like
Speaker 1: getting rid of it all, like breaking down for us,
Speaker 1: what is your pup like after a composition.
Speaker 2: Like a volcanic eruption?
Speaker 1: Really, it.
Speaker 2: Can be rough, like to be honest, usually like maybe
Speaker 2: thirty or forty minutes after the contest, your body is
Speaker 2: like what the hell have you done? And like you
Speaker 2: break out in like a wicked sweat, and when you
Speaker 2: go to the bathroom, it's a combination of like hot sweats,
Speaker 2: cold sweats, water pouring out of you know, everywhere, and yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it gets violent, man. Like, Honestly, I never live
Speaker 2: baby wipes because like you just never know smart.
Speaker 1: Have you ever pooped yourself? I do? I mean you
Speaker 1: said yes?
Speaker 2: Was that a kind of when you say poop yourself?
Speaker 2: Like I've never rushed out of my barm if that's
Speaker 2: what you mean. But like you know, sometimes there's a
Speaker 2: small like you know, skid mark left behind by accident.
Speaker 3: Hey, it's the angels of the trade. You know, we
Speaker 3: all know what we signed up for it.
Speaker 2: Pretty much.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been in a pickle eating contest? We
Speaker 1: like pickles.
Speaker 2: I've never done a pickle eating contest, but I've done
Speaker 2: food challenges where like you get those like big ass
Speaker 2: pickles and it's a part of the challenge and there's
Speaker 2: like ten of them on the plate along with the
Speaker 2: burger or whatever it may be. Yeah, pickles are rough. Man.
Speaker 3: Is there a food item that when you see it
Speaker 3: as part of the challenge you go, oh, man, I'm
Speaker 3: in for it this time, Like a spicy pepper or
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the spicy ones, they are like they're never a
Speaker 2: good time, Like especially now, like all the whippers and
Speaker 2: all these different kind of concoctions they put on like
Speaker 2: they call it like reaper chili or whatever on like
Speaker 2: a burger or also you always know like the ramens.
Speaker 2: The spicy ramens are probably the worst. They're the roughest
Speaker 2: because it just hurts the whole time. Right, I've done
Speaker 2: a few, like super spicy chicken wings and it just
Speaker 2: tastes like you're eating battery acid.
Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah I am. I didn't do the contest,
Speaker 3: but there was a place in San Jose, California where
Speaker 3: I tried. I just got the the wings that they
Speaker 3: do like for the contest, just so like I did
Speaker 3: like a dry run and I took a bite and
Speaker 3: inhaling hurt after that, like it burned when I took
Speaker 3: a breath, and I was like, oh god, I can't
Speaker 3: do this. This is this is terrible. This is for
Speaker 3: guys like James Webb.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about sour candy?
Speaker 2: No, no, So I've got a sweet tooth. I've got
Speaker 2: a massive sweet tooth. So I've done. I've done pounds
Speaker 2: of candy. Like I love candy. It's hard, but it's
Speaker 2: I enjoy it.
Speaker 1: But like the sour candy, if you ate too much,
Speaker 1: it starts to like your tongue starts to go now
Speaker 1: like burn.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, I've done. Like I've done. Like I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think the craziest one I've probably done. So. In Australia,
Speaker 2: we have like we call them warheads. Yeah, and you
Speaker 2: have something similar, yes, but yeah, right, so I did.
Speaker 2: I did something like one hundred and fifty of the
Speaker 2: little warheads. I think it was like two pounds or
Speaker 2: three pounds of warheads, and the enamel off my teeth
Speaker 2: came off, and I couldn't brush my teeth for a
Speaker 2: week because it hurts so much. And like the skin on,
Speaker 2: like the inside of my mouth was like I could
Speaker 2: take like chunks of skin, Like my mouth was just
Speaker 2: finished for like a week.
Speaker 3: I mean, you truly suffer for this. You have such
Speaker 3: a passion for it. Is do you want to be
Speaker 3: the best in the world? Is that what we're going
Speaker 3: for here? I mean, weather option is there of course?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, competitive eating. Competitive eating changed my life, right like,
Speaker 2: it changed the trajectory of my life, my family's life.
Speaker 2: It's given us this unbelievable opportunity, this crazy platform. And yeah,
Speaker 2: like I'm super competitive. I want to be the best.
Speaker 2: That's no disrespect to the other competitives, competitors. Joey's the goat.
Speaker 2: We all know that I've beating Joey before in contests.
Speaker 2: He's better me, you know, But that's what we do.
Speaker 2: We want to compete to be the best, and we
Speaker 2: all kind of have this mutual respect, but we all
Speaker 2: know it's like all bets are off in that like
Speaker 2: ten minutes.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Wow, do you guys hang out with each other like socially?
Speaker 2: Yeah, a bunch of us do. Like any kind of community,
Speaker 2: let's call it, there's always like little quicks, right, people
Speaker 2: don't like each other. Some people really do. A few
Speaker 2: of us are super closed and we hang out. A
Speaker 2: few of us keep our distance, and then a few
Speaker 2: people just kind of keep to themselves, kind of just
Speaker 2: roll with it.
Speaker 3: Interesting. Yeah, So I'm seeing here that you ate nearly
Speaker 3: sixty donuts while recovering from a near paralyzing illness. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's more than I can do at a peak health.
Speaker 3: Tell us more about that. What was the story there?
Speaker 2: So Gian Barre syndrome. I was diagnosed in October twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: Basically I went to sleep, pro soccer player, I work
Speaker 2: up paralyzed. That's the long I'm short of it. I
Speaker 2: spent the next two years in hospital. They obviously Gainbarr
Speaker 2: syndromes are super rare autoimmune disease. Basically, my body, my
Speaker 2: immune system attacked my body and I went through I
Speaker 2: went through it. I was paralyzed. I was on a ventilator.
Speaker 2: I was like crazy crazy, But actually I went through
Speaker 2: a stage where I was paralyzed. I only had one arm,
Speaker 2: Like I literally had one arm from my elbow down
Speaker 2: on my left side. That's all I could move. So
Speaker 2: I could only eat things, and being fed is so demoralizing, right,
Speaker 2: So I could only eat things that required one hand.
Speaker 2: So all my friends and everyone bought me boxes of
Speaker 2: like Krispy Kreme donuts, so like that was just there
Speaker 2: all the time. I could just get a donut bang
Speaker 2: and eat it, and like, you know, there is that
Speaker 2: you're you know, serg in pain or going through whatever
Speaker 2: you don't actually eat. But I hate wasting food, so like,
Speaker 2: you know, there was a time where the boxes of
Speaker 2: donuts just kind of built up, and I'm like, it's
Speaker 2: going to eat them, you know. It's I could have moved.
Speaker 2: I was suck in bed, so I was just like
Speaker 2: eating donuts with like my one workable arm.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's I mean, again, what an incredible story. And
Speaker 3: you have this documentary that's come in in August, James
Speaker 3: can he What can people expect to see in that film?
Speaker 2: And I just want to say it is a. It
Speaker 2: is a true honor to be a part of the
Speaker 2: whole Generation Iron organization, like to be involved with them.
Speaker 2: I've been watching Generation I since I was a teenager. Crazy,
Speaker 2: but I'm obviously Amazon Amazon Prime August twenty second, so
Speaker 2: equally excited and nervous. I'm not sure what to expect,
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 1: Honest, Well, you've seen it obviously.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But when you watch it back, each time, you
Speaker 2: notice something different, you know, because it's me, I'm paying
Speaker 2: super attention. I'm like, I really said that or did that? Really?
Speaker 2: Like you when you when you look at the whole story,
Speaker 2: it's actually kind of crazy. I'm living it. So sometimes
Speaker 2: like when you look back, you're like, oh, yeah, that
Speaker 2: really happened. That's me up there, you know what i mean,
Speaker 2: Like it's super shocking, Like you know, I know for you,
Speaker 2: like you kind of had this crazy you know, you've
Speaker 2: done some crazy cool stuff. You know, I'll watch you
Speaker 2: on TV as a kid, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like nothing else you've done. Now as a regular dude
Speaker 2: that's done all this crazy stuff. Now I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 2: Like that's actually me up there. And it's like you
Speaker 2: notice you fixate on certain things and to be honest,
Speaker 2: Like my friends are, like, I haven't let anyone watch
Speaker 2: it yet, friends or family, because I just want everyone
Speaker 2: to watch it when it comes out, and I don't
Speaker 2: know be inundated with the crazy feedback. I guess I
Speaker 2: don't even know what to expect.
Speaker 1: Well, we're excited to see it, So what is next
Speaker 1: for you? Like what's on your bucket list?
Speaker 2: Look? Well, firstly, what's next is I've got to get
Speaker 2: through the next two and a half months. It's a
Speaker 2: contest season starting up again. We have a small break
Speaker 2: after the fourth of July contest. I've got a few
Speaker 2: titles to defend in September, so I'm super excited. I
Speaker 2: got my RIB title to defend this weekend in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: So the next two and a half months is going
Speaker 2: to be I'll be in a different city every week, traveling, competing,
Speaker 2: doing my thing. But in terms of competitive eating obviously,
Speaker 2: besides the Nathan's Contest, like that's massive, right always, I
Speaker 2: got to qualify for that. That's like the Grail. But
Speaker 2: there's also a kind of cool event in Singapore at
Speaker 2: Comic Con. I want to I want to try to
Speaker 2: get it get an invite to that, so I've got
Speaker 2: to get some cool performances and some cool videos ready
Speaker 2: to send it off to them, so hopefully get a
Speaker 2: spot at the Comic Coon contest. This this Decembi in Singapore.
Speaker 3: I mean, what, yeah, what's the food there?
Speaker 2: So every year, every year it changes, but it's so
Speaker 2: Asia is massive for competitive eating. Like they're crazy. They
Speaker 2: do like forty five minute contests. Now I'm about a
Speaker 2: ten hot dog contest. They're eating for like forty five
Speaker 2: minutes to an hour, right, so bang right, but they
Speaker 2: turned muck bang into like competition, right, So I just
Speaker 2: want to go and experience that and just see how
Speaker 2: I kind of match up against the Asian eaters because
Speaker 2: you watch on YouTube they're wild, man. So I just
Speaker 2: want to go and compete. So that's definitely a bucket
Speaker 2: list for me because like not many, not many Westerners
Speaker 2: have had the opportunity to be a part of that contest.
Speaker 3: Is like summertime. The I know you have different seasons
Speaker 3: down under, but like it is like summertime like the
Speaker 3: peak season for these competitions.
Speaker 2: Yes, so yeah, so definitely the warmer months. So usually
Speaker 2: normally we have one so we have one or two
Speaker 2: contests at either end. So for example Vegas in January
Speaker 2: it's freezing, but there's a very popular contest there and
Speaker 2: usually descend by in Indiana again freezing, but there's usually
Speaker 2: a contest either end, but the core contest is from
Speaker 2: May all the way through to July fourth. Then we
Speaker 2: get a small break and then usually it's the end
Speaker 2: of July through to like mid October, so we get breakes.
Speaker 2: But definitely the hotter months is the more popular months.
Speaker 2: And especially like back home in Australia, right it's actually
Speaker 2: winter right now in Australia, so freezing cold. The contest
Speaker 2: in Australia start like end of August when it does
Speaker 2: start getting a little warmer in Australia, I think as well,
Speaker 2: like when it's good weather, people are going to turn
Speaker 2: out to watch. Where it's raining and cold, no one's
Speaker 2: really gonna watch a bunch of maniacs on stage smashing
Speaker 2: a bunch of food, right.
Speaker 3: You never know, it's a hell of a draw. Sorry,
Speaker 3: And when you're like if you go out of town
Speaker 3: on like a vacation or something, and you go into
Speaker 3: a restaurant and you just just by a chance you
Speaker 3: see on the menu like oh, finish the finish the
Speaker 3: burger and you'll get your picture on the wall. Do
Speaker 3: you ever just do like I mean, that's gotta be
Speaker 3: child's played for someone like you. Is your picture on
Speaker 3: the wall and like a million restaurants across the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty crazy how many challenges I've done, how
Speaker 2: many records I've got. To be honest, it really depends
Speaker 2: on how I feel or what i'm doing, Like when
Speaker 2: I'm so for example, I've been with my family for
Speaker 2: the past three weeks. After that, they came over for
Speaker 2: Nathan's and we kind of stayed together, went to Disney World,
Speaker 2: had the family downtime vacation. So I consciously made the
Speaker 2: decision to not do any stupid stuff. I just want
Speaker 2: to spend time with my wife and little one and
Speaker 2: catch up because I haven't seen them in five months. Right,
Speaker 2: So for the last three weeks, I've been taking it
Speaker 2: super easy. But like, for example, I'm in Minnesota now.
Speaker 2: So if I go if I'm going out for dinner
Speaker 2: tonight and there's a burger challenge on the menu, hell yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm going to smash it.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: That is awesome. Wait, do you get trophies?
Speaker 2: Yeah? To be honest a lot of a good contest.
Speaker 2: They have the wrestling belts. So I've got a bunch
Speaker 2: of I've got a bunch of belts. I've got a
Speaker 2: bunch of trophies. It's actually super cool. You're Americans clause,
Speaker 2: you guys take it seriously, like you guys love memorabilia
Speaker 2: and stuff, right, So I've got some super cool wrestling belts.
Speaker 2: I've got some massive trophies. Honestly, competing winning stuff in
Speaker 2: this country is awesome.
Speaker 1: O Hey, where do you put it all? Do you
Speaker 1: have a room for it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, So I've got at home in Australia, I've
Speaker 2: got like this big shelf, but it's now gone to
Speaker 2: three shelves and it's taken up like a big chunk
Speaker 2: of our living room wall. So I've just recently, because
Speaker 2: I've launched my clothing line, I've built a gym and
Speaker 2: a warehouse and for the clothing I'm going to make
Speaker 2: like a section for all my memorabilia because my wife's
Speaker 2: got some. I've got some super sentimental stuff. My wife
Speaker 2: got it all framed up and stuff. So I'm going
Speaker 2: to on the wall of the gym in the warehouse,
Speaker 2: I'm going to chuck it all on the wall, and
Speaker 2: I'm going to have a corner for my trophies and
Speaker 2: my belts and stuff because it's taken up so much
Speaker 2: of our apartment.
Speaker 1: So cool. Wait, tell us about your clothing line.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so the can syndicate basically. Obviously, my handle
Speaker 2: on social media is Jweb you can eat, But I
Speaker 2: guess the backstory along and the short of it. When
Speaker 2: I started doing this, everyone's like, you're a maniac, Like,
Speaker 2: don't do this, Like you can't make a living from
Speaker 2: eating and blah blah blah or social media. I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: I can and I will, right, So you can do
Speaker 2: anything right. I dress a certain way, I have a
Speaker 2: certain style about me, and everyone's like, you shouldn't wear that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can wear it. I can do what
Speaker 2: I want, right. So the whole image of the brand
Speaker 2: is you could do what you want, right, And so
Speaker 2: I made this brand. Can for example, like I like
Speaker 2: oversized T shirts, so I made oversized T shirts. I
Speaker 2: like mid length shorts and crew socks. So I kind
Speaker 2: of just made clothes that I like to wear. But
Speaker 2: it kind of it started off as just I want
Speaker 2: clothes for me. That's it. Then it started, it escalated.
Speaker 2: Now I've got half a warehouse full of clothes that
Speaker 2: people seemingly want to buy. It's pretty wild. It's a
Speaker 2: cool story. But yeah, it honestly started because like I
Speaker 2: just want to stick it to the man, and you
Speaker 2: can do what you want. And I'm moving through for
Speaker 2: if you try hard enough, you can make it happen.
Speaker 3: I love that so much. That's awesome, that's so inspiring.
Speaker 1: Well do you have to worry like medically about like
Speaker 1: cholesterol and yeah, things like that.
Speaker 2: So obviously health, I've been through it with my health.
Speaker 2: Health is everything I understand. With health, you've literally got nothing.
Speaker 2: So I get checked up every time I go back
Speaker 2: to Australia. The routine. My wife picked up from the airport.
Speaker 2: So I'm my mama's boy. I have to go home
Speaker 2: for coffee and cake with my mama. But first things first,
Speaker 2: I have to go to the doctor, get my bloods done.
Speaker 2: Then I can go see my mom. So I always
Speaker 2: every time I come back to Australia, I get my
Speaker 2: blood work done, calcium score, cholesterol, blood sugar, all that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. To be honest, last blood test, I
Speaker 2: actually was fine, Like everything was in mid range. Everything
Speaker 2: was okay for the most part. Like I had a few,
Speaker 2: like you know, you know, a few like deficiencies, but
Speaker 2: not crazy crazy, you know, taking a month off when
Speaker 2: I go home. It kind of fixed everything. But my
Speaker 2: dentist hates me. My dentist absolutely hates me because I'm
Speaker 2: a left hander, so I chew across my mouth, so
Speaker 2: I always chew on my right side. I'm starting to
Speaker 2: get a receding gum on one of my teeth and
Speaker 2: my dentist is like, chew on the other side. I'm like, no, no,
Speaker 2: I can't because I need to win. And she's like,
Speaker 2: you know, she's trying to explain it to me, like
Speaker 2: you know, habits, if you have to have a gum
Speaker 2: graft and whatever. I'm like, yeah, I'll just go to
Speaker 2: Turkey and get some veneers. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: Wait, when you're like in the height of competition, what
Speaker 1: is your libido? Like does it affect Like after competition,
Speaker 1: do you want sexy time? Or now.
Speaker 2: You need to ask my wife. But to be honest,
Speaker 2: it does you get affected? Like you're so lethargic, And
Speaker 2: to be honest, even preparing for a contest because you're
Speaker 2: depleting your body, trying to like make maximum space in
Speaker 2: your body. You know, Like, let's be honest, for the
Speaker 2: month of June, every second day I was eating hot dogs.
Speaker 2: That is not nutritious at all, Right, So, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you go through like periods of like lethargy and like
Speaker 2: you don't want to like you know, you're just existing,
Speaker 2: like oh, you think you're so and that's I guess
Speaker 2: that's the weird part with what we do. You obsess
Speaker 2: over things like your technique or whatever, right, and it's
Speaker 2: all you think about. So yeah, honestly, I do know
Speaker 2: that like libido goes down, anything goes down. That's why
Speaker 2: my wife is such a geek. She's just my supporter.
Speaker 2: She just knows, like I need to help. Like, for example,
Speaker 2: when they came over in June, we've got to go
Speaker 2: to Walmart, We've got to get to hot dogs, we've
Speaker 2: got to cut the hot dogs, we've got to plate
Speaker 2: up the plates. And she just knows, like for this month,
Speaker 2: it's game time, right, So she helps me thing. And honestly,
Speaker 2: without my wife, I'll be so screwed. Man. I'm just boy,
Speaker 2: I'm a man, Like I can only do so much, right,
Speaker 2: my wife is the brains of the operation.
Speaker 3: Ain't that the truth?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: That's how it is. Yeah. What, And I know you
Speaker 3: probably have an allegiance to Nathan's a little bit, but like,
Speaker 3: is there a brand of hot dog that you that
Speaker 3: you like that you prefer when you're training?
Speaker 2: To be honest, I'm not sorry if I should say this,
Speaker 2: but I actually don't like hot dogs. Wow. But for
Speaker 2: the life of me, I don't know how you Americans
Speaker 2: spend money on hot dogs. Like, I get it. It's
Speaker 2: it's an American It's a delicacy. It's a thing. Right.
Speaker 2: In Australia we do meat pies. Again, not the greatest food,
Speaker 2: but it's kind of iconic, right. I'm the biggest fan
Speaker 2: of hot dogs, so, to be honest, I think I've
Speaker 2: only ever eaten Nathan's hot dogs because of the event.
Speaker 2: Like I've never actually bought the other brands, because I
Speaker 2: actually don't want to eat hot dogs in my spare time.
Speaker 3: I get it. I completely understand. Really, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: if you're doing it that hard and that competitively, I mean,
Speaker 3: I probably the other thing is we don't have.
Speaker 2: Hot dogs in Australia, like what you guys call a
Speaker 2: hot dog, we don't really have in Australia, So I no,
Speaker 2: So like I didn't grow up eating the hot dogs
Speaker 2: that you guys call a hot dog, right, Like, so
Speaker 2: we we do like a thing called a sausage sizzle.
Speaker 2: It's like a beef sausage in a bread like a
Speaker 2: slice of bread, right, or our hot dogs. If you
Speaker 2: go to Australia and buy a hot dog from like
Speaker 2: a restaurant or whatever, it's like a Frankfurt. But like
Speaker 2: what you guys physically call a hot dog, we don't
Speaker 2: have that in Australia. We have a beef sausage or
Speaker 2: like a Frankfurt, right. But this hot dog thing you
Speaker 2: guys have is like a hybrid of both.
Speaker 1: Cocktail winnies like pigs in a blanket.
Speaker 2: So we don't really so pigs in a blanket aren't
Speaker 2: really a thing in Australia. We have like cocktail frankfurts,
Speaker 2: and again you put it in like a bread roll.
Speaker 2: But like I was trending in Australia, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: like I know what a hot dog is. I got
Speaker 2: here and I had no idea what I was doing.
Speaker 2: I had no idea what I was looking at like, honestly,
Speaker 2: what you guys call hot dog is is not what
Speaker 2: we call a hot dog, and I it sounds really crazy,
Speaker 2: but it's different. Wow.
Speaker 3: I mean that makes what you do is all the
Speaker 3: more impressive.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Do you eat sushi?
Speaker 2: I love sushi.
Speaker 1: You've been in a sushi competition?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Australian record is one hundred and two pieces of
Speaker 2: sushi in two minutes and twenty three secs.
Speaker 3: One hundred pieces and two minutes. Oh my god, Oh
Speaker 3: I just got.
Speaker 2: Not Yeah, that's Australia and hopefully never be beat in.
Speaker 1: That doesn't even sound okay for your body, like your
Speaker 1: mercury level.
Speaker 2: Look, the best way I can describe what I do
Speaker 2: or what we do, it's kind of like a boxer, right,
Speaker 2: or any kind of combat sport. They put their body
Speaker 2: through hell in preparation for the fight or the game day. Right,
Speaker 2: for game day, you're going to get punch in the face.
Speaker 2: Now we all know face is not necessarily good for you, right,
Speaker 2: and they recover and go again. Competitive eating is the same.
Speaker 2: You put your body through hell in preparation or game
Speaker 2: day to be punched in the face by a bunch
Speaker 2: of hot dogs or a massive tray of sushi and
Speaker 2: then you recover and then you go again like a
Speaker 2: week later.
Speaker 3: I mean it's a sport, it's an athletic athletic feet wow,
Speaker 3: and it hurts. Yeah, yeah, I mean you're yeah, you're
Speaker 3: putting your body through hell. James, this is so fascinating.
Speaker 3: We have enjoyed talking to you so much. Again. J
Speaker 3: Webb Kenny on Instagram. The documentary James Kenney that is
Speaker 3: on Prime Video August twenty second.
Speaker 1: I am sake to watch it.
Speaker 3: We're so pumped.
Speaker 1: Last question for you, when I excited after we talked
Speaker 1: to you that we would do a little competition between
Speaker 1: the two of us eating hot dogs, do you have
Speaker 1: any tips for us?
Speaker 2: If it's just one hot dog, I would not recommend
Speaker 2: dunking it. I would just try eating it.
Speaker 1: The dunking. I can't do the dunking, but.
Speaker 2: Drink in one hand, hot dog in another. Drink Bye
Speaker 2: bye drink.
Speaker 3: Okay, bite bite drink. That's a good rhythm.
Speaker 1: Bite whoa yeah, bite.
Speaker 2: Two small bites a sports of drink to like soften
Speaker 2: it up right and then swallow it and then bye
Speaker 2: bite drink, bite, bite drink. Hopefully you can do the
Speaker 2: hot dog in like six bites, right, so like one
Speaker 2: to drink one to drink one to seelander the champions.
Speaker 1: What if I throw up?
Speaker 2: Then you're just qualified? Any best?
Speaker 3: What interesting?
Speaker 2: Nothing can leave, nothing can leave your body. So I've
Speaker 2: got a random story for you. I got to qualify
Speaker 2: for my first contest last year in a Tamali's contest.
Speaker 2: I managed to eat ninety seven Tomali's in ten minutes,
Speaker 2: and I had so much Tamali in my body it
Speaker 2: actually came through my nose. But but like chunks of tamali.
Speaker 2: It looked like porn shot out of my nose. And
Speaker 2: I got to qualify.
Speaker 1: Do you say porn or corn?
Speaker 3: Corn? Corn? That is insane? Oh my god, the visuals
Speaker 3: are like horrifying. I can't believe you experienced that in
Speaker 3: real life. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Wait, you give food porn a whole new name.
Speaker 2: Wait, I think there should be I think there.
Speaker 1: Should be a channel called only food instead of only
Speaker 1: fans any people Like I don't know if.
Speaker 2: I should say this or not say this or not,
Speaker 2: but there's people out there that ask for bloat of
Speaker 2: belly pictures and burd.
Speaker 1: Videos and they are and what videos?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they offer cash and.
Speaker 1: Oh, I can make a lot of money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know when you drink some soda and
Speaker 2: you but right, so I'm not joking. There's I know
Speaker 2: some people that have been paid to do this kind
Speaker 2: of crazy stuff. So it's kind of like it's kind
Speaker 2: of like only food but like marketplace style.
Speaker 3: Hey, we don't want to yuck anyone'sym. We're not here
Speaker 3: to kink sheen. But that's uh. You know there's something.
Speaker 1: We bloated videos. I would do really well with one
Speaker 1: of those right now, really bloated. I don't know how
Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat these hot dogs. Deep breaths.
Speaker 2: To be honest, you hold your breath a lot in
Speaker 2: a contest, so you breathe when you drink.
Speaker 1: Interesting hold your breath bye bite drinks so.
Speaker 2: You says bye bite, take a small breath, drink, swallow,
Speaker 2: breathe out, bye bye.
Speaker 1: I'm not that coordinated to that rhythm.
Speaker 2: That's what we that's what but see that that's what
Speaker 2: we practice, honestly, Like, that's what goes into preparation of
Speaker 2: a contest. Right, you got to pick your time because
Speaker 2: you feel they're just the guy next to you is
Speaker 2: going to be eating more food. Than you, right, so
Speaker 2: you've got to kind of coordinate your breathing that doesn't
Speaker 2: affect the rhythm.
Speaker 1: Is there one food sorry before we go? Is there
Speaker 1: one food you absolutely hate but you will have to
Speaker 1: eat it one day to go through all these competitions?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So I think the hardest contest for me is baloney.
Speaker 2: So it is a very very pat and big baloney contest.
Speaker 2: I did thirteen pounds in eight minutes. Joey beat me
Speaker 2: by just one. I think it was one and a
Speaker 2: half or two pounds, and I don't but bony is
Speaker 2: next level harsh, like it's it's just like smoked baloney.
Speaker 2: It's not even like bread or nothing. Right. I understand
Speaker 2: a bloonney sandwich is a quite popular just autumn here
Speaker 2: in America, But this is just juice and I was
Speaker 2: just trying to get as fat as I could and
Speaker 2: it's just the flight and all.
Speaker 3: Super Oh god, well some hot talk. Yeah, Well, we
Speaker 3: are such big fans of you, James again, James Webb
Speaker 3: James can Eat. Watch the documentary foll him on Instagram.
Speaker 3: He is he is the goat. If you ask me,
Speaker 3: this guy is a hero. J Webby can Eat on
Speaker 3: Instagram thank you so much for joining us today and
Speaker 3: thank you for all the tips man, thanks for sharing
Speaker 3: your secrets with us.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys for having me. I honestly I really
Speaker 2: appreciate the opportunity. Thank you so much, and good luck
Speaker 2: with Thos.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, James. Bye.