WEBVTT - Episode 54: Lauren Coughlin 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.360 The guys from Ping. They've kind of showed me how 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:05.080 much the equipment matters. I just love that I can 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:06.600 hit any shot I kind of want. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:08.520 We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:10.640 what goes on here to help golfers play better golf. 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:13.720 Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Ping Proving Grounds Podcast. 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:16.440 I'm Shane Vacan, joined as always by Marty Jerts and Marty. 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:21.239 There are special guests. There are exciting guests, and then 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.320 there are guests that are playing arguably the best golf 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:25.960 on planet Earth right now. 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:28.080 And we've got the ladder today. 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:30.200 Lauren cog I'm going to join us now from a 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.680 sunny Scotland Lauren, Is that what we'd say today? 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:35.839 Beautiful Scotland off. 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:37.880 And on sunny Scotland. Yeah, you know, I feel like 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:41.800 we got a little bit of everything typical typical Scotland. 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:43.680 You know it would be I was in shorts at 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:46.839 one point today and then there was raining sideways at 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:48.760 one point today, So yeah, I got a little bit 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:49.360 of everything. 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:51.680 Yeah, you were saying that the pro am was was 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:53.960 kind of everything Mother Nature could throw at you, and 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:55.880 that was the first time you've played the old course 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:56.320 in your life. 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.960 So you got it in? Are we saying thirty mile 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.080 an hour gusts is what we're going with? 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:01.960 At least? 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:02.280 Yeah? 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:04.200 I mean at times I think it was probably close 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.480 to like thirty five. Yeah, I mean it was pretty 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:08.560 brutal out there, but I mean it's what it's going 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:10.800 to be like all weeks. So but it might as 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.119 well get it in now too, Marty. 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.920 There are podcast bumps and then there is whatever happened 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:19.000 with us and Lauren last week. We were actually gonna 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:22.320 do a podcast with her last week and I think 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:24.959 weather was an issue and your tea time got pushed 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:26.240 back and it didn't work out. 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.880 So Marty, are we going with like the pre bump 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:29.480 or the post? 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:29.640 Like? 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:30.479 How are we doing this? 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:31.000 Yeah? 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:32.759 This is a new we need a new name for this. 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:34.880 You know, Lauren, you got any ideas here? 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.440 Yeah? I mean I would have done it had it 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.000 not you know, been probably having to do it like 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.160 nine to thirty my time and having to go then 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:44.680 get up the next day. But yeah, I think you 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.880 probably like a a pre It might be a little 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:49.800 bit of a both, like a pre post bump. 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.200 There you go, there we go like that. I love it. 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:54.800 You were celebrating at the Don Vegan Post Scottish Op 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:57.680 and I listened to you on the NLU Live show 0:01:57.760 --> 0:01:59.240 and then the pod and all of that. 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:00.000 It was funny. 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:03.040 You were doing your job if you will, you know, 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:04.880 jumping in with the guys and doing that. And I 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:06.400 know I'm going to get into your relationship with then 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.320 LU in a little bit, but you were doing your 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:10.399 job there. But it was so cool And if people 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:11.799 haven't checked it out, make sure you go listen to 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:15.840 the podcast because about every thirty seconds, somebody'd walk by 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:19.120 and say congratulations. And I think, like Marina walked by 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.160 at some point, I think, do you say, Cary Webb 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.080 was there as well. All of these people are walking 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:27.640 by congratulating you as you're doing a live FaceTime in 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.560 the US. I mean, that's kind of who you are 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:33.799 in this space, and you know, I know you get 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:35.320 a lot of I'm assuming you get a lot of 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.600 comps to Max Homa on the men's side of golf, 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:39.400 and I'm assuming a lot of that is not just 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.400 your relationship with then LU, but just you know your 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.000 journey and who you are and how open you've been 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.280 to everybody. But what is it like going from I'm 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.799 a cool kid on the LPGA tour that's got these 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.800 cool friends to now I'm playing some of the best 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.400 golf on the planet and my confidence levels at an 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:58.160 all time high. 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.480 Yeah, it's it's been a world when I would say 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.480 the last like month or so, just between Avion and 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:08.239 then going to Canada Portland and then last week in 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.680 the best way of course, but yeah, it's I think 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.680 what I learned after Canada was just like the coolest 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.560 part about winning Canada was the all the support I 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.800 got from my peers, you know, like I kind of stick. 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.600 I am very friendly with a lot of people, and 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:26.480 I have friends, but kind of when I'm at the course, 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.760 I'm kind of usually in my bubble and I kind 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.840 of do my thing and then I leave. I don't 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:32.560 really do, you know. I don't play a lot of 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.480 practice rounds with my friends. I'm usually like now I 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.040 want to go play at this time, So I'm just 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:38.560 going to go play and I do my own thing. 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.160 But I have a lot of friends, but I think 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:44.400 it was a lot of the other people that I think, 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:48.640 like Lydiaco like messaged me right like as soon as 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:52.440 I won. Nelly messaged me, Lexi messaged me, like Gin 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.680 Young Coo messaged me, like all these people who have like, 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.560 you know, looked up to since I came out here, 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:01.000 and they're like now they respect me and they have 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:03.960 again I think just under the radar, a just oblivious 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.360 to myself, Like didn't really you know, think they knew 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:11.000 who I was, but they did the whole time. But yeah, 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:14.600 it's been wild. It's yeah, I don't really have a 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.320 lot of words to describe it. I'm just trying to 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.760 go keep playing golf and see what happens. 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.720 Lauren, What what was it that that click there in 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:23.640 Canada to get you over the hump? 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:25.160 Like, tell us a little bit about that week. 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.520 How are you feeling going into it, how you prepared 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.920 for the tournament and just you know just kind of 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:34.080 your position round by round and you know, how were 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.200 you were you quite nervous come down the stretch and 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.440 kind of how how it all came together for you there. 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:41.039 Yeah, I learned a lot, you know, the two weeks 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.440 before at Avion. You know that was kind of really 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.480 the first time coming down the stretch that I had 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:47.760 had a lead at all. You know, I'd had like 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:49.680 a first round lead, for the first time in the 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:53.159 beginning year at Chevron, and then I think kind of 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.279 coming down the stretch, I was kind of in contention, 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.120 but I would never had the lead or anything newly 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:58.800 kind of ran away with it most of it, but 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:00.960 I kind of was the closest person to her for 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.840 a lot of the back nine. And then so Evan 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:05.919 was the first time where like you know, I was 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.680 stepping on the fifteenth tee and I had the lead 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.280 on Sunday and I didn't quite get it done. But 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:16.000 I didn't really feel like I lost that week so 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.440 much as I just didn't win because Ayaka came out 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.599 and shot five on her last five holes, like started 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:25.279 making everything. So while I was disappointed, I don't think 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:28.160 it it didn't really leave any scars or anything. I 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.320 would say more if anything, was just like, Okay, I 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.080 know what I need to go do next time. And 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:36.680 that off week, So my husband caddy for me at Evon, 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:41.640 But the previous five weeks before that, I've been working 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.400 with Terry mcnaura has been caddying for me, who was 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:48.680 on a castorm Sam's longtime caddie, and so he came 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.000 up because I live about an hour from where Slim is, 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.840 and so he came up. We actually went and hung 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:55.920 out with Bob Rotella for like an hour. He had 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.200 never met Bob, so I was like, he lives in 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:00.920 Charlesville where I live. I'm friends with him, Let's go 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.520 hang out. And then we went and played the Solon course. 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:06.840 And I think that week, you know, I just was 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.320 able to really rehash everything that happened at Evion and 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.760 learn what I didn't do. And so come Canada, I 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.039 was in a very good space. You know. Terry and 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:16.520 I were had just spent you know, a day and 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:20.160 a half pretty much just together ourselves, and I just felt, 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:22.120 I don't know, we were really starting to get in 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:25.279 a rhythm as a team, and I think that was 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.320 huge and I think a big reason why I was 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:29.000 able to end up winning at Canada. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.320 Lauren, I hear this a lot from people when they win, 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.680 or even when they go from amutor golf, collegiate golf 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.240 to pro golf, and they start to kind of understand 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.560 that you look at your peers, or you look at 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.719 the Lydia's or the gin Youngs or the Nellies, and 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:45.840 you think they're perfect, and then the moment you get 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.080 to start playing with them, or you see them playing 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.760 in tournament golf, you realize that they're not perfect. They 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.359 make mistakes, they hit golf shots that aren't great. You know, 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.480 maybe they make a bogeie here, And there is there 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.160 a level of starting to get a sense of what 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.240 you needed to do to not just win, but be 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:04.799 able to kind of play a minus B plus golf 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.479 and still see the results. Because the major results this 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.400 year have been incredible. I mean, you've played great in 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.920 the big events. Obviously you have the two wins, but 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:13.960 I just feel like the consistency has been there, and 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:17.040 I'm wondering if there was something that clicked mentally for 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:21.440 you where you looked around and said, these players, these 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.120 great players that I love to watch, do it aren't 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:25.400 perfect at the sport? 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.360 Yeah, for sure. I think you know, in college that 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.400 kind of happened, you know, I think for those who 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.760 don't know, I mean, I wasn't highly recruited in this 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.160 in all of that, and so I remember getting paired 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.640 with and when I was in college Stephanie Meadow, who's 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:39.760 still out on tour with me, she was like number 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.720 one amateur like most of college when I was there, 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:45.000 and like in Leonda Maguire was you know, number one 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.400 amateur most of the time the rest of the time 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.440 that I was in college, and so I remember getting 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:51.360 to get paired with them for the first time and 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:52.840 being like, man, I can't wait to see you know, 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.400 like what do they do? Like what what can they 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:57.680 do that I don't How can I get? What do 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:59.080 I need to do to get better? And I remember 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.160 being like, yeah, they do, like they make a few 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.440 more puts than me or whatever, But there's not like 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:05.800 anything that they did that I didn't think I could 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.400 also do. And I think that's kind of happened over 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.200 the years as well on tour, finally getting starting to 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.600 get paired with the Lydia's. I've been played with Lydia 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:18.640 a few times this year, a handful of times the 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:22.480 last year or so, and I mean, she's unbelievable with 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.600 a wedge in her hand, but there's not really like 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:26.960 anything else about her that I'm like, yeah, like I 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:31.120 can't do that. I've never been paired with Nelly, never 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:35.320 been paired with Lilia, but I mean I've been paired 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:36.800 with a bunch of me I've played. I've been paired 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:40.160 with ruining a lot of the people now and there. 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.120 It's nothing that I'm like, yeah, there's nothing that they 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:45.040 can do that I can't do with a little bit 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:46.960 of practice and work or anything. Right, I'm not saying 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:49.280 I'm just as good at everything as them, but there's 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.679 like you can look and see like, Okay, I can 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:54.160 see that, I can see that I could do that. 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:56.959 Lauren, tell us a little bit more about working with 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.280 Bob Rotella. I'm kind of interested in that. How long 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.760 have you known him, and you know, how has he 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.360 helped you, not only recently obviously, but just over the 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:05.880 course of your your career. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:09.400 Yeah. One of my really good good friends from Charlottesville, 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.720 Bubba who love the shout out, He's really good friends 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:16.960 with Doc and so I think about in twenty twenty 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.160 one or so, he was like, you know, do you 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:20.640 want me to just text him and see if he 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.600 like he wants to go play golf? And I was like, yeah, 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.880 that'd be awesome. And so that was kind of when 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.120 it started. I just played golf with him, you know 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.640 a handful of times. If I ever need to text 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.240 him or anything, like, he's always willing to talk. But 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.080 that's Yeah, it's been it's been pretty cool. I mean, 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.920 he has great stories, and he's worked with I mean 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:42.079 name him. He's probably worked with them on the men's side, especially, 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:46.360 you know, he works with Rory really closely, JT. Shane, Lowry, 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.679 Paltt Padrag Davis Love the Third Like I mean again, 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.520 like name him, and he's probably worked with them at 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.480 some point. So you know, listening to some of the 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.840 stuff that he has to say is is pretty cool. 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:00.920 He has great stories and again, and you go and 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.400 think that you're the only one that's ever felt certain 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.040 ways at times, and what you learn from them is like, no, 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.320 you're not the only one. Everyone's pretty much gone through 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.440 similar stuff at some point in their career. 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.560 Do you call him doc? Because that's really sick. Is 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:14.440 that what you call him? 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:14.679 Do? 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:15.840 Like text him doc? 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:17.560 Yeah, that's what Bubba calls them. 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:21.160 So that's kind of what Yeah, I mean, it's it's 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:23.080 uh yeah, that's kind of one of those. 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:25.880 Like doc doc. Rotella is another one, Yeah. 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.880 Because like like growing up myself, Marty, I'm sure you 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:29.720 were similar. 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:31.320 Is Rotella was the guy. 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:33.480 I mean, he was the books I read through, I 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.240 mean when I was having i mean, putting out of 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:36.800 your mind is on the shelf behind me. I mean 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.360 that's my go to and I'm really struggling. I think 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.880 it's wild to think there are certain figures in this 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.160 sport when you meet him in real life and Marty, 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:47.040 I'll nerd out of the PGA show versus like I 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.280 could see Mark Wahlberg walking down the street and I 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.360 would nerd out more if I saw Rotella. 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.160 You know, like that's the that's the world I live. 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.600 It's probably why I do this, But I mean, Rottella 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:56.200 was our guy. 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:57.199 Yeah. 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.120 Yeah, I have his books on my bookshelf and my 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:01.600 office at home because I was going to give him 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:03.240 to my kid to read, and the pages are all 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:04.960 falling out and I got notes all in there. I 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:06.959 was just looking at it this a week or two ago. 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.600 So Laura, that's super cool that you, uh yeah, you 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.560 have this recent experience with him. 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.079 Yeah, I mean it was. It was awesome. I mean again, 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.520 so Terry's been catting for forty six years and. 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:19.880 Just a couple. 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.720 Yeah, and like he had he had never met Rotella, 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:25.280 and so I was like, oh man, I just want 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:26.800 you guys to meet, Like I just want to listen 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.760 to you guys talk and like I can't wait to 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.920 hear like stories that you guys might go back and 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.480 forth right, And Terry was like, no, I'm just gonna 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:36.520 I just want to listen to him. He's like, I 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.600 don't want to. And so what it ended up being 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:41.280 was like we were just talking about me. It was 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.600 just me and Rotella talking back and forth about Evan 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.760 pretty much, and Terry was like on the edge of 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:48.920 his seat the whole time, just like loving it, as 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:50.199 I'm sure you guys would have been. 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:52.800 Oh it was By the way, is there one thing 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.240 that you said you did you talked about that he 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.480 like pinpointed right away, you know, I mean like negative 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.800 speak things like that that golfers can do. Was there 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:07.000 one thing in those initial conversations that he saw in you, 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.000 As you mentioned, you're not the first person to have 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.520 these thoughts or these feelings or these situations that you're 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.960 going through. Was there one specific thing that he noticed 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.040 with you and went, let's avoid this or we can 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:17.280 change this so we can work on this. 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.440 Yeah. I think a lot of it for me has 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:24.840 always been confidence, not just in terms of like putting 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.880 or whatever, just like overall, like confidence in myself that 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.360 I can win I can be, you know, a top 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.520 player like he saw in me. He was. I remember 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.280 he Bubba told me that. He's like he went to 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.480 him after we're like nine holes in and he's like, so, like, 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.600 what's this girl's deal, Like why is she not winning 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.600 on tour right now? And he was like, One, at 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.439 that point, it was putting. My putting was awful, but two, 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.200 it was a lot of it ended up being just 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:53.080 like again, I wasn't recruited, like I walked on in Virginia, 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.719 like I never thought. I like, if you would have 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:57.120 told me at the beginning of this year that I 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.599 was going to win once littlone twice like be on 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:01.880 the Soul, I wouldn't have believed you. I mean, obviously 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.439 that's what I was trying to do in working towards, 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:08.320 but like that, my belief, just in my confidence wasn't 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:12.720 really there at that point. And I think Terry's helped 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:14.960 me a ton with that because he's I mean, he 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.960 was with Anica for nine years in her prime. You 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.920 know that he has sixty nine wins with her, fifty 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.240 five on the LPGA. Like he's been around the best, right, 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:28.160 And so like when he tells me something. I'm like, Okay, 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.240 like you've seen it. He's not gonna bes me. He's 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:31.719 not gonna just tell me that just to make me 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:33.320 if he wouldn't be working with me if he didn't 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:36.080 believe it. Because he's mostly retired at this point, so 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.960 it's like him telling me certain things just has just 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.079 because it's not anything that a lot of other people 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.040 haven't told me, but like, for whatever reason, with him, 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.920 it has just like stuck a little bit more. I think. 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:48.320 Yeah. 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.839 One of the things Lauren about tournament golf is just 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.800 is so hard to win in general anywhere. I mean, 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:55.840 Shane and I have a hard time winning our local 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.200 club championship or a little match play thing. You know, 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.839 when was the Canada? When was the last time you 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:04.680 won a golf tournament? Was it on the Semetra Tour 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:06.280 or Mini Tours? 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:06.720 Yeah? 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.960 I won, so right out of college, I turned pro 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:11.840 immediately didn't have any status. So I played a couple 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.600 of state opens in that summer getting ready for Q school, 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.520 and I won both the Tennessee Open and the Colorado 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:21.720 Stayed Open. And then twenty eighteen, when I was a 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:23.880 rookie on the LPG, I went down and played an 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.400 EPSENT event and ended up winning that EPSENT event. But 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.240 up until then, that was twenty eighteen, so that would 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.440 be the last time I'd won anything. You have money, 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:32.480 I mean. 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.640 You're saying six years. I mean again to Marty's point, Yeah, 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:40.000 that is. I mean, it's learned. It's situational, it's uncomfortable. 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:44.280 It's like you get yourself in that position. Are you 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.800 leaning on Terry more than you thought you would? Are 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:50.120 you leaning on the rotella conversations? Are you leaning on 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.000 your own confidence? Or are you just out there playing 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.400 golf because you're trying to close out a golf tournament. 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:55.920 It's a big, big golf tournament. 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.040 Yeah. When Terry and I first started working, like the 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.120 first he came up, we were to start working at Mizuho, 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.479 and he was going to be cadding for Nasa Hatiyoka 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:08.480 at the Founder's Cup because the caddies that actually connected us, 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.960 He's really good friends with Greg caddy's for NASA. But 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.720 his daughter was graduating college, so Terry was going to 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.680 take over for him that week just so he could 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:19.920 be there for his daughter's college graduation. But on his 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:21.880 way up, he kind of stopped through Charlottesvie, and we 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:23.960 spent a couple hours together just to kind of really 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.480 get a feel for each other. How do I like things, 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.120 this and that. But a lot of what he said 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:32.360 was like how important communication is, and like if you're 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:35.600 feeling because I could, I was telling him at that point, 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.000 you know, any type anytime I felt like I got 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:41.280 into certain points, I could feel the anxiety, or I 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.160 could feel the adrenaline, you know, like little things like 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.720 that that or if I could feel uncomfortable whatever he knew. 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.520 He was basically just like communication is the most important thing. 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.560 Like I can't help you if you don't tell me 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:54.720 what you're feeling. He's like, I still may not be 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.080 able to, but like I definitely can't if you're not 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:01.120 telling me what's going on. And so I remember at 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:05.000 Mizuho our first week, I made a birdie on the 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.720 fourteenth hole, Yeah, fourteenth hole, to kind of get to 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:10.560 within like two of the lead. I saw the leader 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:15.600 board just like on accident, and I got pretty like 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:17.760 the leaders were still on like seven or eight, Like 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.200 it was not even like I wasn't even really that close, 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:21.960 but I got like pre jacked up about it a 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:23.360 little bit, and I ended up making a couple of 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.120 bogies coming in and I remember being like, man, I 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:27.760 should have told him that I was feeling kind of 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.240 like some adrenaline on that fifteenth teen. I didn't, So 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.800 I remember like texting me, I mean, like I felt it, 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.600 I didn't tell you, like it won't happen again, like 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.560 and so pretty much that's just what a lot of 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:43.080 what I've been talking through him, you know, like a 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:47.520 Canada Sunday morning, when during my warm up, I could 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.280 definitely kind of feel I was getting a little quick 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.000 just because you know, I'm excited, right I'm I'm one 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.720 shot back of the lead, like I'm playing really really 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:56.920 great golf, and I could feel, you know, I was 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:58.640 just in my tempo was just a little click and 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:00.560 I could feel it. So, you know, I told him, 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:02.760 and I'm sure he could see it, but I was 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.360 so you know, he talked through I can't even really 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.399 remember what he said, but you know, he's like, of 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.120 course you're gonna want it, this is your dream. It's 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:15.320 okay that you want it, but you can't let that 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.159 extra energy like get in the way. You need to 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:19.879 focus it in on what you're doing. 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:24.040 Yeah, I think just the just you've kind of learned 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.720 that skill of self awareness. It sounds like, Lauren, right. 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.960 Yeah, exactly, yeah, and like again it's okay to feel 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:33.760 those things. Everybody feels them, but I've learned that like 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.560 keeping them internal, which is what I've done for most 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.320 of my career, just trying to get over it. Like 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.359 just know I can do it myself. You know, I 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:43.359 can do everything myself. I don't need anybody's help. And 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:45.439 it's like no, like people want to help you. People 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.880 want to whether it's your swing or putting or whatever, 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.880 like Catie, like they they want it. They're there because 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.280 they care, and so let them help you. 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:54.920 Lauren. 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:56.560 There's a lot of guys on Instagram that will tell 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:57.959 you if you need any swing tips too. 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:01.000 I'm sure they could just reach out and hitch out there. 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:03.400 I've been getting a few of those lately, by the way, 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.679 because I'm going through some swing stuff and I'm like, thanks, 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:06.320 appreciate that. 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:07.560 I didn't know. I didn't know I was gonna get 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:07.960 that either. 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.080 You told you told a great story on the NLU 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.720 Live Show on Sunday about something Terry said to you. 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.480 The Canadian Open to the leech Ravino line. Can you 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.040 just share a what he said and be how that 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:20.320 conversation started. 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:23.440 Yeah, I think I don't really even know how it started. 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.520 I think we were playing a practice around either Monday 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:27.919 or Tuesday, and he was like, you know, like Lee 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.760 Chavino won three National Opens in a year. You know, 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:32.879 we're going about to have three in like four weeks, Like, 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:38.160 you know, we could do that, And then we ended 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:41.200 up winning Canadian Open. And then you know, last week 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:44.200 we were talking on the phone about something about leading 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:48.280 up or in the off week before Scottish and we 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.320 were talking about something and he's like, you know, just 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.359 you know, just letting you know about your letting the 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.280 subconscious know. You know again like Lee Chavino won three 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.000 National Opens in one year, Like we can do that too, 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.120 two for three, two or three? 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:05.119 Now, by the way, what a call, Marty? 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:08.199 You just throw that out there, just nonchalantah, go, you know, 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:09.119 Lee Trevino did this. 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.000 I think Tiger did it as well. Right, didn't Tiger 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:11.880 pull that off as well? 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:12.200 You won? 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:13.920 I think you might have won the US the Open 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:15.840 in the Canadian one year. I think maybe in two thousand, 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.439 but not a lot of people have pulled off the 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:20.240 three peats, So we're gonna be We're gonna be. 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:21.920 Pulling back in nineteen seventy one. 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:25.960 Too crazy, crazy, We're gonna be pulling very very hard, 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.880 very hard for you. I mean, Marty, you're a guy 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:32.160 that's played a ton of competitive golf, and you've won 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.040 a lot of golf tournaments. You've played against some of 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.760 the best players in the world. When you feel the 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:41.280 leap happened, personally, how fun is it to ride the 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:43.720 wave like for you? How fun is it to ride 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:45.359 the wave when it's rocking and rolling? 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:49.600 Yeah? No, super fun. I mean I think my Lauren. 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.320 My like highlight of my career is I played in 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:53.800 the PGA Championship at Bethpage and I made the cut. 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:56.160 That was like my life's dream is a working golfer. 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:58.840 And early in that week I had to practice around 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:02.080 a range with Francesco Mollinario just won the Open Championship, 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:05.000 almost won the Masters, and I kind of had that 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:09.879 same experience you talked about, where, you know, here's one 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:11.760 of the hottest player in the world. I played a 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:13.840 practice round with him and I was hitting better than him, 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.359 you know, So it was that kind of got me 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:18.360 over the hump a little bit and gave me that 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:22.600 little confidence or that self belief that hey, I gave 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.040 myself permission to do good, you know, and I had 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:26.880 my team going a lot, a lot of just very 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.840 positive things happening, not only with my mechanics and my 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:32.919 technical part of my game. But yeah, I think just 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:36.240 having that, you know, something about having that holistic momentum 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:40.159 giving yourself permission. I think that what you mentioned about 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:43.080 the national championships in one year, it is that little 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.760 seed in your subconscious that you know, maybe you realize 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:49.560 is there when when you're out playing or not, but 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.240 it's given yourself that permission to win. 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:52.720 Right. 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:56.080 Yeah, that talk with Ortella, that was one of the 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:59.360 things that we talked about. Like he talked about how 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.720 everybody has they're at this like comfort zone. Right for 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:06.480 some people, He's like, it's people who shoot always shoot 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:09.240 between like sixty eight and seventy two. You know, there's 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:13.119 this like subconscious like comfort zone that if they're you know, 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.480 if they're six over with four to play, they're going 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:17.920 to make some birdies coming in to shoot to get 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:20.240 in that number, whereas they're you know, if they're six 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:23.159 under through twelve, they're going to make bogies coming in 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:27.480 and always kind of be in that that number that range, right, 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:30.680 because that's where they think that they should be. They're subconsciously, 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:32.879 So that was a lot of what we talked about, 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:35.800 or what he talked about, like just getting over that hump. 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:40.040 The next part was like you just have to start subconsciously, 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:44.679 start thinking about it, like not really consciously, so that 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:48.080 you're subconscious will then kind of take over, so like 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:52.040 just thinking about not just hitting the shots and making 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:55.440 the putts, but like thinking about winning and that type 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:58.200 of sense, and a lot of it was like visualization 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:01.239 and things like that talked about. But I was like, oh, 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:03.320 I've never really thought of it like that. You know, 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:05.160 when I was in the early part of my career, 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:06.919 all I was thinking about was the cut, right, So 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:08.840 where was I always right around the cut? 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:09.280 Yep. 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:12.160 And then eventually I started to feel more and more comfortable, 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:14.320 and you know, I wasn't really thinking about to cut anymore, 0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:17.200 but I was always finishing between like twentieth and fortieth 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:22.160 and then eventually it's just gotten higher and higher, And yeah, 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:26.439 I think that was part of it. Was Eviyon. I 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:28.400 think showed me that No I could win out here. 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:30.200 Even though I didn't end up winning, I think Evon 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.040 showed me that I could, Lauren. 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:33.480 I wanted to ask about the relationship with no laid 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:36.159 Up because you know, their buddies of mine. I've known 0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:39.040 them for a long time. I love what they do 0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:42.159 with their program with players, especially early on, you know 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:44.840 with some of the players where I'm not exactly sure 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:46.639 they knew what they were doing, but they wanted to 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:49.199 kind of, you know, promote and throw some money at 0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:51.040 certain players out there that they liked or that they 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:54.280 were following, or that they knew. How has that relationship 0:22:54.320 --> 0:22:58.320 helped your confidence helped? You know, the people out there 0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:00.960 on social media, fans things like that, that are following you, 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:03.359 that are interested in you. What has that relationship in 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:05.440 dynamic been like over the last few years. 0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:08.800 Yeah. So in twenty nineteen, they tweeted out that they 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:12.560 were starting the Young Hitters program, which was basically their 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:14.600 sponsoring Like, I think it's about six guys on the 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:18.640 corn Ferry Tour, and I followed Tron and I followed 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.000 like the main Twitter account. Honestly, at that point, I 0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:23.280 didn't even know that there was like five guys. Like. 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:25.320 I listened to the podcast, but I mainly just listened 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:28.320 to the interviews. I didn't really listen to the recaps 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:29.920 or anything. I was like, man, I do enough golf, 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:33.440 Like I don't need to be capping every PJA tour event. 0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:36.680 But I loved the interviews. And then my husband started 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:40.280 found their YouTube channel and so he was really into 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:42.480 them as well at this point. And so I saw 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:46.480 Teron tweeting out that they're thinking about doing maybe someone 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.040 on the epsyn or LPGA, and so I was like, Okay, 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:50.520 I'm just going to shoot my shot. So I sent 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:54.760 them a DM on Twitter in like March, and I 0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:58.200 think he posted it, which is like embarrassing going back 0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:01.400 and reading it now six years later or five years later. 0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:05.639 But he I messaged him in like the beginning of March, 0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:09.639 and in September he messaged me back being like, let's 0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.600 do it. How much was always said like it was 0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:17.600 like circling He never yeah for six months and it 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:19.800 was like just like it was like circling back, let's 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:21.640 do this, Like that's literally all he said in it, 0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:25.800 Like it was like four words. So then I ended 0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:28.639 up meeting them. I ended up meeting Tron and DJ 0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:32.160 at a coffee shop in Jacksonville after the Semetro Tour 0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:34.040 Championship because I was gonna be driving back up that 0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:37.120 way going back home, so I don't know. I talked 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.040 with him in a coffee shop for like an hour 0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:41.640 and a half and just like handshake, like, hey, we're 0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:43.720 doing tourist Sauce in like two months. If you want 0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:46.760 to stop down in Pinehurst while we're there. I was like, 0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:50.159 all right, cool, sounds good. But yeah, So that's kind 0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:53.760 of how it started. And then this the relationship just 0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:56.000 kind of grew from there. You know, I got pretty 0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:59.040 involved with you know, my husband. Again, my husband was 0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:01.679 a huge, huge fan of theirs too, and so he 0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:05.080 joined you know, the Refuge their message board, and so like, okay, 0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:07.119 he was loving it, So like okay, I'll get on it. 0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:10.600 And and I've done events and you know, I've gone to 0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:12.440 their n I t which is their like end of 0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:17.240 the year tournament that they do in I did win 0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:23.480 it in Yeah, I got Jackets twenty twenty one. It 0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.040 was yeah, I mean and that, yeah, it was. They're 0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:28.600 they're They've just become really really good friends of me 0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:30.800 and my husband. You know DJ and Randy have both 0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:33.480 caddied for me at one point, Like DJ did a 0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:38.960 Epson event, Randy did the Colorado Open when he was 0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:41.680 a couple of years ago. Like yeah, I mean they're 0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:44.800 They've just become awesome friends. And every time I'm around them, 0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:47.240 you know, they they all love golf, and it usually 0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.199 just makes me like golf a lot more than I 0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:53.760 sometimes just it's my job, right, So as much as 0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:55.960 I love it, I love it in a different way 0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:59.240 when I'm around them more just for the pure love 0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:01.760 of golf less is like no, this is just what 0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:04.240 I love what I do. But because I don't get 0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:06.000 to do a lot of fun golf, right, most of 0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:09.119 my golf is work, and so it's always fun to 0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:11.399 get to go play golf with them because it's it's fun, 0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:15.119 and I always it recharges my batteries every time. 0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:19.639 Lord, let's let's shift gears to the last two this 0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:23.080 week and last week's Uh Scottish Open? Have you had 0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:25.400 you ever been played golf over there or been over 0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:27.480 and played links golfer? Is this is this your first 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:28.160 time over there? 0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.800 No? My first time at the Scottish Open was twenty 0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:34.280 twenty two, so I played Scottish over there, and then 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:37.160 I had to go do the qualifier for the British 0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:39.800 which was at North Barrack, which was awesome. 0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.520 Was it North Barrick? What wow? 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:48.159 Yeah? Incredible? Yeah? And then and then I qualified for 0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:53.680 the British which was at Mirfield, So whoa nice, like incredible. 0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:55.320 That was like my real So like I cause I 0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:57.800 played Don Donald and I like dun Donald a lot, 0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:01.560 but it's not quite true Links golf, I would say, 0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:04.639 just because it's a lot of elevated greens. It's not 0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:07.480 quite as firm as I don't know, like when I 0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:09.840 went and played North Barrick, like there was a be 0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:11.879 a bunker, you know, like two eighty out and I 0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:14.200 was hitting like four hybrid to stay short of it, 0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:16.080 like when it was down wind, just because the ball 0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:18.639 just like does not stop. And so like it's just 0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:20.720 very different, like that doesn't happen at dun Donald just 0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:24.800 because there's a lot more undulation and raised greens and stuff. 0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:27.639 So like that was my first real like holy crap, 0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:32.120 this is what Links golf is. And then really struggled 0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:35.000 in the wind back then, and then last year I 0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:37.000 was like okay, I got to figure out the wind, 0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:39.359 the ball does a lot, especially off the tee. Like 0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:41.960 I got to get better at this, and so right 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.239 before the Scottish last year, I actually switched from the 0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.440 PROV one X to the pro V just because I'd 0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:49.720 kind of done a little bit of testing. I'd always 0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:53.639 played the X pretty much since college, and so I 0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:57.280 switched to the PROV because I was getting similar, similar, launch, 0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:59.800 similar everything. Just I was getting like a couple of 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:03.840 undred RPMs less spin, and so I was like, oh, 0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:05.639 I mean just less spin a couple if it's only 0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:07.880 a couple hundred, like that makes a big enough difference 0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:11.119 to where like maybe my ball won't especially in crosswinds 0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:13.840 like do some crazy stuff. And so I switched and 0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:15.880 it made a huge difference. I made the cut at 0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.439 Dundonald last time for the first time and played, I 0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:21.080 hit some. I played really well in the wind that week, 0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.480 and then went to Walton Heath, which was more park 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:28.359 It's heath Landed wasn't really links. So this was my 0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.320 third time over playing link skullf Do. 0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:31.760 You love it? 0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:31.959 Like? 0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:33.000 Is it? Are you into it? 0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:33.960 Very much? 0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:34.080 So? 0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:38.600 Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like weekend and 0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:40.440 week out a lot of it's just like, oh, hit 0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.920 it as high landed by the pin, you know, like 0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:43.880 hit a straight ball. 0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:46.360 Whatever, how far does my seven iron go? 0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:49.520 That's what I'll hit it right exactly, Whereas this, it's like, 0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:51.560 I mean, I couldn't tell you how far I was 0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:53.040 trying to hit a lot of things, like I have 0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:57.200 my stock six iron carries about one hundred and sixty 0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:01.680 eight yards. Last week on the full pole, three of 0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:05.520 the four days I hit six iron and the yardage 0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:07.560 was between like one hundred and eighteen yards and one 0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:09.320 hundred and twenty five yards. 0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.560 So sick god, I love that so much. 0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:16.240 Like I mean, I was like in the whole before, 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:18.960 similar yardage, but not quite as exposed. So I was 0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:21.440 hitting like eight iron from like one hundred and eighteen 0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:23.920 yards or like seven iron from one hundred and twenty yards, 0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.760 whereas like the next sold's way more exposed, a little 0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.600 bit more dead into and I'm hitting six iron like 0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.520 pin high and I'm not hitting full shots. I mean, 0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:35.680 it's just I'm just trying to get it just going 0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:38.040 through the wind as straight as I possibly can get 0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:40.600 it and just get it going. I don't know, that's 0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:42.600 it's a lot more fun there's a lot more feel 0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.720 and like you have to be one more creative. It's 0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:46.680 it's a lot more fun. 0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:50.000 I think it's it's fun, it's different, it's unique, and 0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:52.520 again if you embrace it. As you mentioned the conditions 0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:54.440 this week expected to be windy and kind of nasty 0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:56.280 at Saint Andrew's, I was gonna ask you, I mean, 0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:58.200 not just because the way you're playing right now, because 0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:01.680 obviously you're playing as good as anybody on the LPGA Tour, 0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:03.040 and I know you're excited about this, and I want 0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:04.920 to ask a couple questions about the old course, but 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:10.760 in terms of golf tournaments and anticipation and excitement, where 0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.360 does an Open at St. Andrew's Land on your list? 0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:15.719 Is it a top the list? Is there anything that 0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:16.440 can beat this? 0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:18.560 I mean, I think the only thing that will beat 0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:21.400 it will be Solheim an hour from where I live 0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:22.560 in a couple of weeks. 0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:23.320 That'll be dirty. 0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.880 Yeah, But I mean this is like, like both of 0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:29.680 these two events are like once in a career type opportunities. 0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:31.680 Getting to go play the Open at an old course 0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:35.480 and then playing the Solheim Cup in your home state, 0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:38.520 like an hour from where you live. Like those are 0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:40.239 like you know, people don't get to do like that 0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.680 doesn't happen for everybody, and so yeah, I mean I'm 0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.320 extremely excited, especially like you know, this was marked on 0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:49.160 the calendar as soon as I knew my dad, my 0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.720 dad and my uncle are getting here tomorrow. So it's 0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:55.520 it's going to be it's gonna be an awesome week. 0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:58.080 What was your first Uh, so you just went around 0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:00.240 it for the first time today where you just off 0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:01.800 the golf course when we're talking to you, now, what 0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.560 was your first impression? Granted you were out there in 0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.160 some pretty breezy conditions and kind rained on a little 0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:08.200 bit as I understand it. 0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.160 Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, it was very windy, but 0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:12.880 I mean it was pretty windy last week at Done 0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:16.760 donald so that wasn't too too different. But it's a 0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:20.120 lot it's I had heard and again I've walked it before. 0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:23.680 Two years ago a friend of mine had a one 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.400 more spot open up, but I let my husband play 0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:27.600 and I just walked. 0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:28.960 Look at you. 0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:32.720 It's like you don't need to get a Christmas gift 0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:34.720 or aniversary gift or stuff like that. 0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:39.040 So I couldn't remember a lot of like the front nine, 0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:41.920 you know, I knew obviously I could picture like seventeen 0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:45.200 eighteen one, but a lot of the other holes kind 0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:49.240 of all blended together. But yeah, I mean there's a 0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.280 lot of just blind shots and you just have to 0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:54.240 trust that, like, no, this is where you got to go. 0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:56.360 And so a lot of what we were doing today 0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:58.280 was Terry just being like are you good with the 0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:00.760 line that I'm giving you? Are you good? Like does 0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:03.400 that look okay to you? You know, just making make 0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:07.760 sure everything felt good. I mean there's times out there 0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.000 where like we're gonna be hitting in the rough, probably 0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:12.120 on purpose. There's a couple holes just trying to make 0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:14.040 sure you stay out of the bunkers, just because there's 0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.080 no really other way to other place to hit it. 0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:20.240 I think hold twelve specifically, like we're probably gonna be 0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:21.280 hitting it in like the right. 0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:25.280 Ruck crazy golf hole, the crazy I contend, and I 0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:28.760 played a decent amount of golf around this great world. 0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:32.200 I don't think there's a crazier hole than twelve. And 0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:34.240 Laura and I Caddie did Saint Andrew's out of college 0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:37.240 for four or five months. I still don't know where 0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.440 to hit it on twelve. And I definitely don't know 0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:41.120 where to tell people to hit it. So I'd get 0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:44.280 on that times and i'd have some American golfer, you know, 0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:46.840 I'm carrying his bag, and I was like, I kind 0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:48.440 of hope he doesn't hit my line. I'd tell him 0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:50.280 because if he hits, it's probably gonna be in a bunker, 0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:52.720 like that hole is just bananaly Yeah, I. 0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:55.200 Mean, so the wind was pumping hard off the right, 0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:58.760 so I was pretty much going at the cart path today. 0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:02.520 Which Marty, I mean, it's almost out of bounds, you know. 0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:05.080 Yeah, I guess. 0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:08.000 I guess technically now you're aiming on another golf course 0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:08.280 to try. 0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.360 Yeah, And I actually ended up I think it ended 0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:15.080 up just going into the fairway, but like that's where 0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.160 I was aiming, was like at that right, but he 0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:19.520 was also saying like left and I might go left 0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:25.320 rough yeah yeah, yeah, So but like that's so like 0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:28.160 again like that like no one like where you're never 0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:29.920 going to try to hit it in the rough in 0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:35.240 the US exactly right, like we're trying to. Yeah, but 0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.520 like my pro am guy was like, you were aiming 0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.120 down that way. I'm like yeah, Like he's like I 0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.080 was like, yeah, we're like Terry brought but out the 0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.040 book was like, yeah, those are the two places I have, 0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.160 Like that's where you need to go. And he was 0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:49.080 like it took him a while to be like because 0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:52.040 you can't really see the bunkers from the tee, right, 0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:53.880 So we're like, yeah, there's a bunch of bunkers like 0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:57.400 all right in there, so we don't want to be 0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.800 in any of those. There's no really place to hit 0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:01.680 it between them, so yeah, we're going to hit it 0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.480 over here in the rough. And he's just like like 0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.320 what I was like, Well, Terry's going to like the water. 0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.640 He's like, yeah, the rough's fine. It's like pretty thin 0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:10.440 over there, like you have no problem getting in on 0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:12.319 the green. And as soon as he got up there, 0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:13.960 he's like, oh, I kind of see it now, but 0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:16.000 he was just like his mind was like he just 0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.000 couldn't comprehend them, Like, yeah, no, I'm trying to hit 0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:21.160 it in the right ruff pretty much and not right 0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:22.080 down the middle of the fairly. 0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:24.759 What was the longest putt you had today, because there's 0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:25.759 some long ones out there. 0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:31.560 Seventeen I think it was my longest one today. So 0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:37.680 I hit it right down the middle. We misjudged the 0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:38.719 wind just a little bit. 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.320 I thought it was what'd you aim at? By the 0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:43.880 way on the building? What was your line? Do you remember? 0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:47.360 Yeah? So I think I was aiming again. One was 0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.480 pumping hard off the right, so Terry wanted me to 0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.480 hit it over the h and O in the hotel, okay, 0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.680 And I ended up hitting it kind of just over 0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.640 the l in hotel and it was right in the 0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:05.759 center a fairly so great, but it was like right down 0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:09.319 the middle. But I had one hundred and seventy five 0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:14.680 yards I think to the pin, and and we thought 0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:16.879 like one seventy was playing like one eighty five, which 0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:18.160 is what we were trying to hit it, And it 0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:20.200 was like front, it was like kind of back right 0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:23.360 was the pin. And I ended up hitting like I 0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:25.680 tried to hit just like this punch like four hybrid, 0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:27.560 and the wind just didn't never really touch it. So 0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:31.759 I ended up going way back left of the green. 0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.320 So I don't know. I probably had one hundred feet 0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:35.319 probably close to it. 0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.239 Yeah, are you are you like this week? Will you 0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:43.239 be putting from off greens? You know to a certain point? 0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:46.160 Are you a hybrid chipper? Do you take like a 0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:50.160 seven iron, Like, what's your plan for shots that aren't 0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:52.840 on the putting surface, But obviously at St. Andrew's the 0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:54.120 grass kind of plays the same. 0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:56.440 Yeah. I mean, if I can putt it, I'm gonna 0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:59.200 putt it for sure. But I also I don't mind 0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:03.160 hitting on tight low, so I will be chipping probably too. 0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:05.239 But it's just going to depend, right, Like if there's 0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:08.040 a huge like if I have a lot of if 0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:10.759 there's like some huge like some crazy stuff that if 0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:12.640 I putt it, I'm gonna have to put through all that, 0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:14.279 Whereas if I chip it, I can kind of chip 0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:17.040 it around it. I probably will. But if I can 0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:24.799 putt it, I'm gonna putt it. Absolutely. Eleven today, it's 0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:27.439 like the Caddy's joke. It's like the shortest par five 0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:31.479 in the world, right, And it was pumping in off 0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:34.440 the left, like hard off the left and in and 0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:38.440 again just kind of the windows didn't really kind of 0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:41.120 get it, and I ended up in the over the green, 0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:41.759 which is like. 0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:43.279 Dead dead dead. 0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.040 I can't give you much advice, as I told you 0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:50.360 my advice on twelve, but I can tell you a 0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:51.719 couple of places not to hit it. 0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.000 Yeah, as soon as you hit it and we saw 0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:56.960 it balanced Terry it was like, that's like, I cannot 0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:59.400 believe I just did that? 0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:02.440 Or has has Terry caddied at before? 0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:06.239 Oh seven? He cat yeah, O seven with Anika. They 0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:10.640 finished seventh. He has his book which is awesome from them, 0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:12.920 which is sick. I mean it's tiny compared to like 0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.320 the books that we have now. It's it's so small. 0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:17.480 But yeah, so he has and he has all the 0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:19.960 notes in there from them, which is really cool. But yeah, 0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.279 I'm as I'm way long and end up going all 0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:25.879 the way down the swale up into just into the goal, 0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:29.080 like into the tall stuff, and I hit I took 0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:31.279 my three hybrid out and I don't know, there's no 0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:32.799 way I could ever do it again, but I hit 0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:36.120 it till like fifteen feet. It was unbelievable, like literally 0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:38.360 probably the best shot I've hit in like a really 0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:41.040 really awesome time. I was like, God, this is gonna 0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.000 be such a sick three. I ended up not making 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:45.560 the platt but save I mean Bogey. He was like 0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:47.960 on the tee, Terry was like, you're gonna make four here, 0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:49.840 probably a couple of times, and that's gonna be a 0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:57.279 great score. Yeah. No, it was. It's been It's been 0:37:57.320 --> 0:37:59.680 super fun getting to play it. Though. I'm excited. I'm 0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.279 gonna go play the back again tomorrow and so I'm 0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:03.279 really looking forward to that. 0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:04.680 Nice Lauren. 0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:10.319 Do you make any equipment adjustments for Dundonald in St. 0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:11.120 Andrews's trip? 0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:14.040 Over most of this year, I've used an H grind 0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:16.400 on my fifty eight degree, but I went to a 0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:17.680 tea grind last week. 0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:19.800 That makes a lot of sense. Yeah, that makes a 0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:21.320 lot of sense with the turf over there. 0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:23.799 Yeah, I mean I had used a tea grind most 0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:26.879 of last year, so it wasn't anything like, it wasn't new. 0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:30.040 It wasn't new, but the H grind is new, so 0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:32.640 I switched to that kind of towards I think during 0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:37.000 the Phoenix event I switched to the H grind. But yeah, 0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:40.560 so Jack, the LPGA rep brought me, had sent me 0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:42.800 one just in case I wanted it, and I definitely 0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:45.520 needed it last week. Like I was chipping around, I'm like, gosh, 0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.360 this It wasn't that. AHE grind is too much bounce, 0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:50.840 so it was just too wide. The tea grind is 0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.920 just a lot thinner, so it just goes through it, Yeah. 0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:56.040 Narrower for the for the firmer turf. 0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:59.719 Yeah yeah, Lauren, you come off a win this past 0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:01.960 week and as we were talking about with St Andrews 0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:03.440 and the old Course in the Open, I mean, obviously 0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:04.960 it's a big week. You played great in the majors 0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.160 this year. We've talked about obviously the a couple of 0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:09.960 top fives you've had. How do you get yourself right 0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:11.480 back into the mode where I'm going to go out 0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:15.439 and try to win versus being a bit exhausted or 0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:17.319 you know, putting a lot out there last week to 0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:20.840 win the Scottish How do you kind of recommit everything 0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:23.440 and re energize yourself to get prepared and ready to 0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:24.320 rock on Thursday. 0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:28.520 Yeah. So Canada, I didn't really get to celebrate that much. 0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:31.919 I just how the travel ended up and a lot 0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.600 of my friends were gone. A lot of my friends 0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:36.279 were at the Olympics, so like a lot of my 0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:40.560 friends weren't around, and so it took me a couple 0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:42.400 of days I would say to kind of like really 0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:44.520 kind of get not get over it, but kind of 0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:49.160 come down from the high and everything. And so we 0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:51.880 went to the dun Vegan, had awesome time, like a 0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:53.920 lot of my friends were like Caddy friends were there 0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:56.719 and friends, and so I didn't really have it, you know, 0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:59.520 I chilled out yesterday. I practiced just I went putted 0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:03.719 for about pready manage, but that was about it. So 0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:07.439 I haven't really had the had to come down because 0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:09.040 I think I actually got it. I got it all out, 0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:12.040 you know on Sunday. Yeah, it's felt a little bit 0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.319 different this time. So but I also think, you know, 0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:16.640 I'm very much locked in on trying to get ready 0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:18.799 for this week, and I think that's what I'm really 0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:21.040 really focusing on. So yeah, I'm going to try to 0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:22.839 get some good rest here tonight. I have will later 0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.600 tea time tomorrow, so hopefully get to sleep in a 0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:28.560 little bit. And but I'm first off on Thursday. So 0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:32.120 first off, Yeah, so it's going to be early morning 0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:34.000 on Thursday at seven am. 0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:36.320 Where's the range? Is it like on the new course? 0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:37.520 What are they doing for range? 0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:39.440 Is it like over there by the clubhouse? 0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:41.600 Kind of yes, yes, that's where they are, so. 0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:43.239 They have set up on the new that's nice. You 0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:44.839 have to go as far as like the normal people 0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:45.719 have to go. When you have to go all the 0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.360 way over there to that practice facility, Lauren, before we 0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:49.680 let you go, because we've had you for a bit, 0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:51.760 can you just talk for a minute about your relationship 0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:54.640 with Ping over the years and how that's benefited you 0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.040 throughout your career and how cool it is to have 0:40:57.280 --> 0:40:59.319 a club company that obviously Marty and I are such 0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:01.799 fans of, but to do so many things and has 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.160 kind of a family environment feel to it as as 0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:05.000 well as being such. 0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:05.440 A big brand. 0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:08.279 Yeah, I mean I've pretty much played ping since I 0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:10.759 was like my first I think real set that I 0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.800 ever got fit for. My dad got me upset of 0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:17.520 ping irons and so the Ping G two L I 0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:20.000 still have, like the pitching wedge, the nine iron, and 0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:22.200 I think at the eight iron at my parents' house. 0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:26.080 So though I pretty much just always played ping my dad. 0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:29.160 My dad loved that, you know, they were with the 0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:31.000 you know, the whole color code and everything. As I 0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:34.080 grew kind of just switched. And then when when I 0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:39.240 got to college, Brionna Mao was a teammate of mine, 0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:43.160 and she got she knew mister Solheim just because of 0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:46.400 the first tea, and so my coach was able to 0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:48.520 get a really good relationship with ping, and so I 0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:50.439 kind of I was able, and once I got into 0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:53.160 college I started. I came down there and got fit, 0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:56.799 like really got fit for the first time at ping, 0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:59.799 and so pretty much ever since then, they've I've just 0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:04.160 always play ping. They're the best. I think, you know, 0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:07.200 great people like Scott walbo was. He's no longer the 0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:11.280 LPGA rep, but he has been amazing throughout my whole career. 0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:15.839 And I just personally love paying. I love the look 0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:18.400 of the Irons, I love the feel, I love everything 0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:21.239 about them, and so it's been awesome that I've been 0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:23.560 able to pretty much play them my whole pretty much 0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.640 since i've since I was little, since you. 0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:27.839 Got into it. I mean, that's yeah, that's that's that's 0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:28.560 really cool, Marty. 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.920 Do you have anything else for Lauren before we let 0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:32.839 her rest go to bed and try to go win 0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:33.280 the Open? 0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:34.600 Lord? 0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:35.920 Just how excited for you are? 0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:38.759 Are you about clinching your spot on the Solheim Cup 0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:41.400 and it being so close to home? Tell us just 0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:42.359 just let's end on that. 0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:47.840 Yeah, I mean, it's I think it's just incredible. I 0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:51.680 don't really have many words yet. I mean, I'm so excited. 0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.880 I went I went to my first solhim when I 0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:57.840 was at Inverness in twenty twenty one, and I remember 0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:01.400 being like, man, this would be like absolutely insane to 0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:04.399 be on the other side. And the fact that I'm 0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:06.719 going to get to do it, like I said, like 0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:10.400 an hour up the road from my house, like in 0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:12.680 my home state that I have lived in since I 0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:17.400 was ten, Like it's I'm I'm trying my best to 0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:19.640 kind of mentally prepare for the crowds, Like I don't 0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:21.279 know if I've ever played in front of that many 0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:25.479 people and just you know, the emotions of that week, 0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:27.480 then I'm probably gonna feel. That's what I'm kind of 0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:30.239 trying to get ready for as the best I can. Luckily, 0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:33.839 Terry's been a part of nine of them, so he 0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:37.800 kind of will. Yeah, but it'll it's only a second 0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:39.719 one on the US side. He's done eight on the 0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:46.120 European side, so wow. So's I'm I'm just going to 0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:48.000 be trying to lean on everybody else you know that's 0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:52.080 been there that because that's what I think I'm thinking 0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:55.440 about most right now, trying to mentally prepare myself for one. 0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:57.839 How busy that week's going to be. From everything I've 0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:03.040 heard from. You know, Alison Corpus is a friend of mine. 0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:05.799 You know, she was talking about just like how busy 0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:08.359 it's going to be. I saw Stacy at the Dune 0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:10.839 began like same thing, just like how big, Like how 0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:13.239 busy that week's going to be. So many people are 0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.400 already you know, I'm going to come watch you, like 0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:17.960 a lot of friends and people that I talked to 0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:20.240 in a really long time being like, Oh, I'm gonna 0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:23.560 can't wait to see you there. So I'm That's kind 0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.440 of what I'm more trying to mentally prepare for is 0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:29.200 just the excitement that's going to be that week in 0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:31.640 the best way, but trying to then also be able 0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:32.839 to prepare and play well. 0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:33.319 Yeah. 0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:35.799 Well, and Lauren, you think about the year you've had, 0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.000 and you know, we talked about the two wins and 0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:40.440 playing so well in the Majors, but also the Solheim 0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:43.480 kind of switching gears with the dates and it being 0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:45.960 close to home, and all of a sudden you have 0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:48.040 this opportunity that if you play well, maybe I'll make 0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:49.920 the Soul I'm Cup team or maybe I'm I'm on 0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:53.319 the radar, and you have this great year with this 0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:55.640 Solheim coming up, I mean, it's the year, Lauren. 0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:56.200 It just is. 0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:56.879 It's your year. 0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.560 This is this is you know what Scottie Scheffler get 0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:01.839 out of our fan right now. 0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:02.880 That's what we're talking about. 0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:05.400 Yeah, No, it's been, it's been. Well, it's I mean, 0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:07.319 I set the goal right at the beginning of the year. 0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:09.279 That's what I was trying to get ready for. Where 0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:10.840 I was, you know, I was trying to make the team. 0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:14.640 I think after evy On especially and even kind of 0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:18.279 before that, I was trying not to think about just 0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:20.400 making the team anymore. I was like, no, I know, 0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:24.239 want to make sure that I'm best prepared to win 0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:26.919 as many points as I possibly can, not just go 0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:31.040 and be on the team, but actually contribute and play well. 0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:34.360 And that's what I think. That's where all my energy 0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:36.560 is going into right now, is just trying to maintain 0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:39.759 my golf as best I can throughout the next few 0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:41.799 weeks and the rest of the year. That's what I'm 0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:43.360 my gosh, how I'm gonna How am I going to 0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:46.120 going to keep getting better? That's where I'm That's what 0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:47.960 I'm trying to think about right now. 0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:51.080 Well, right now, you're playing very good golf. So if 0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:53.160 you can keep this going. I think that'll play. Lauren, 0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:55.320 thank you so much. We really appreciate I mean, it's 0:45:55.640 --> 0:46:01.080 it's nine time, so we h, so we appreciate you. 0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:03.719 Uh you rolling with us for a bit best of 0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:04.879 Lux this week at the Open. 0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:06.640 We are fired up for it. 0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:07.960 We're fired up for the way you've been playing, and 0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:09.680 we can't wait to watch it the Solion Cup as well. 0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:12.040 Go out there and take down the old course. You know, 0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:14.480 just just keep hitting like you've been hitting it. This 0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:16.480 is the Ping Proven Grounds Podcast