Speaker 1: The guys from Ping. They've kind of showed me how
Speaker 1: much the equipment matters. I just love that I can
Speaker 1: hit any shot I kind of want.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about
Speaker 2: what goes on here to help golfers play better golf.
Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Ping Proving Grounds Podcast.
Speaker 3: I'm Shane Vacan, joined as always by Marty Jerts and Marty.
Speaker 3: There are special guests. There are exciting guests, and then
Speaker 3: there are guests that are playing arguably the best golf
Speaker 3: on planet Earth right now.
Speaker 1: And we've got the ladder today.
Speaker 3: Lauren cog I'm going to join us now from a
Speaker 3: sunny Scotland Lauren, Is that what we'd say today?
Speaker 1: Beautiful Scotland off.
Speaker 4: And on sunny Scotland. Yeah, you know, I feel like
Speaker 4: we got a little bit of everything typical typical Scotland.
Speaker 4: You know it would be I was in shorts at
Speaker 4: one point today and then there was raining sideways at
Speaker 4: one point today, So yeah, I got a little bit
Speaker 4: of everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were saying that the pro am was was
Speaker 3: kind of everything Mother Nature could throw at you, and
Speaker 3: that was the first time you've played the old course
Speaker 3: in your life.
Speaker 1: So you got it in? Are we saying thirty mile
Speaker 1: an hour gusts is what we're going with?
Speaker 4: At least?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean at times I think it was probably close
Speaker 4: to like thirty five. Yeah, I mean it was pretty
Speaker 4: brutal out there, but I mean it's what it's going
Speaker 4: to be like all weeks. So but it might as
Speaker 4: well get it in now too, Marty.
Speaker 3: There are podcast bumps and then there is whatever happened
Speaker 3: with us and Lauren last week. We were actually gonna
Speaker 3: do a podcast with her last week and I think
Speaker 3: weather was an issue and your tea time got pushed
Speaker 3: back and it didn't work out.
Speaker 1: So Marty, are we going with like the pre bump
Speaker 1: or the post?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: How are we doing this?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: This is a new we need a new name for this.
Speaker 2: You know, Lauren, you got any ideas here?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean I would have done it had it
Speaker 4: not you know, been probably having to do it like
Speaker 4: nine to thirty my time and having to go then
Speaker 4: get up the next day. But yeah, I think you
Speaker 4: probably like a a pre It might be a little
Speaker 4: bit of a both, like a pre post bump.
Speaker 5: There you go, there we go like that. I love it.
Speaker 3: You were celebrating at the Don Vegan Post Scottish Op
Speaker 3: and I listened to you on the NLU Live show
Speaker 3: and then the pod and all of that.
Speaker 1: It was funny.
Speaker 3: You were doing your job if you will, you know,
Speaker 3: jumping in with the guys and doing that. And I
Speaker 3: know I'm going to get into your relationship with then
Speaker 3: LU in a little bit, but you were doing your
Speaker 3: job there. But it was so cool And if people
Speaker 3: haven't checked it out, make sure you go listen to
Speaker 3: the podcast because about every thirty seconds, somebody'd walk by
Speaker 3: and say congratulations. And I think, like Marina walked by
Speaker 3: at some point, I think, do you say, Cary Webb
Speaker 3: was there as well. All of these people are walking
Speaker 3: by congratulating you as you're doing a live FaceTime in
Speaker 3: the US. I mean, that's kind of who you are
Speaker 3: in this space, and you know, I know you get
Speaker 3: a lot of I'm assuming you get a lot of
Speaker 3: comps to Max Homa on the men's side of golf,
Speaker 3: and I'm assuming a lot of that is not just
Speaker 3: your relationship with then LU, but just you know your
Speaker 3: journey and who you are and how open you've been
Speaker 3: to everybody. But what is it like going from I'm
Speaker 3: a cool kid on the LPGA tour that's got these
Speaker 3: cool friends to now I'm playing some of the best
Speaker 3: golf on the planet and my confidence levels at an
Speaker 3: all time high.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's been a world when I would say
Speaker 4: the last like month or so, just between Avion and
Speaker 4: then going to Canada Portland and then last week in
Speaker 4: the best way of course, but yeah, it's I think
Speaker 4: what I learned after Canada was just like the coolest
Speaker 4: part about winning Canada was the all the support I
Speaker 4: got from my peers, you know, like I kind of stick.
Speaker 4: I am very friendly with a lot of people, and
Speaker 4: I have friends, but kind of when I'm at the course,
Speaker 4: I'm kind of usually in my bubble and I kind
Speaker 4: of do my thing and then I leave. I don't
Speaker 4: really do, you know. I don't play a lot of
Speaker 4: practice rounds with my friends. I'm usually like now I
Speaker 4: want to go play at this time, So I'm just
Speaker 4: going to go play and I do my own thing.
Speaker 4: But I have a lot of friends, but I think
Speaker 4: it was a lot of the other people that I think,
Speaker 4: like Lydiaco like messaged me right like as soon as
Speaker 4: I won. Nelly messaged me, Lexi messaged me, like Gin
Speaker 4: Young Coo messaged me, like all these people who have like,
Speaker 4: you know, looked up to since I came out here,
Speaker 4: and they're like now they respect me and they have
Speaker 4: again I think just under the radar, a just oblivious
Speaker 4: to myself, Like didn't really you know, think they knew
Speaker 4: who I was, but they did the whole time. But yeah,
Speaker 4: it's been wild. It's yeah, I don't really have a
Speaker 4: lot of words to describe it. I'm just trying to
Speaker 4: go keep playing golf and see what happens.
Speaker 2: Lauren, What what was it that that click there in
Speaker 2: Canada to get you over the hump?
Speaker 5: Like, tell us a little bit about that week.
Speaker 2: How are you feeling going into it, how you prepared
Speaker 2: for the tournament and just you know just kind of
Speaker 2: your position round by round and you know, how were
Speaker 2: you were you quite nervous come down the stretch and
Speaker 2: kind of how how it all came together for you there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I learned a lot, you know, the two weeks
Speaker 4: before at Avion. You know that was kind of really
Speaker 4: the first time coming down the stretch that I had
Speaker 4: had a lead at all. You know, I'd had like
Speaker 4: a first round lead, for the first time in the
Speaker 4: beginning year at Chevron, and then I think kind of
Speaker 4: coming down the stretch, I was kind of in contention,
Speaker 4: but I would never had the lead or anything newly
Speaker 4: kind of ran away with it most of it, but
Speaker 4: I kind of was the closest person to her for
Speaker 4: a lot of the back nine. And then so Evan
Speaker 4: was the first time where like you know, I was
Speaker 4: stepping on the fifteenth tee and I had the lead
Speaker 4: on Sunday and I didn't quite get it done. But
Speaker 4: I didn't really feel like I lost that week so
Speaker 4: much as I just didn't win because Ayaka came out
Speaker 4: and shot five on her last five holes, like started
Speaker 4: making everything. So while I was disappointed, I don't think
Speaker 4: it it didn't really leave any scars or anything. I
Speaker 4: would say more if anything, was just like, Okay, I
Speaker 4: know what I need to go do next time. And
Speaker 4: that off week, So my husband caddy for me at Evon,
Speaker 4: But the previous five weeks before that, I've been working
Speaker 4: with Terry mcnaura has been caddying for me, who was
Speaker 4: on a castorm Sam's longtime caddie, and so he came
Speaker 4: up because I live about an hour from where Slim is,
Speaker 4: and so he came up. We actually went and hung
Speaker 4: out with Bob Rotella for like an hour. He had
Speaker 4: never met Bob, so I was like, he lives in
Speaker 4: Charlesville where I live. I'm friends with him, Let's go
Speaker 4: hang out. And then we went and played the Solon course.
Speaker 4: And I think that week, you know, I just was
Speaker 4: able to really rehash everything that happened at Evion and
Speaker 4: learn what I didn't do. And so come Canada, I
Speaker 4: was in a very good space. You know. Terry and
Speaker 4: I were had just spent you know, a day and
Speaker 4: a half pretty much just together ourselves, and I just felt,
Speaker 4: I don't know, we were really starting to get in
Speaker 4: a rhythm as a team, and I think that was
Speaker 4: huge and I think a big reason why I was
Speaker 4: able to end up winning at Canada.
Speaker 3: Lauren, I hear this a lot from people when they win,
Speaker 3: or even when they go from amutor golf, collegiate golf
Speaker 3: to pro golf, and they start to kind of understand
Speaker 3: that you look at your peers, or you look at
Speaker 3: the Lydia's or the gin Youngs or the Nellies, and
Speaker 3: you think they're perfect, and then the moment you get
Speaker 3: to start playing with them, or you see them playing
Speaker 3: in tournament golf, you realize that they're not perfect. They
Speaker 3: make mistakes, they hit golf shots that aren't great. You know,
Speaker 3: maybe they make a bogeie here, And there is there
Speaker 3: a level of starting to get a sense of what
Speaker 3: you needed to do to not just win, but be
Speaker 3: able to kind of play a minus B plus golf
Speaker 3: and still see the results. Because the major results this
Speaker 3: year have been incredible. I mean, you've played great in
Speaker 3: the big events. Obviously you have the two wins, but
Speaker 3: I just feel like the consistency has been there, and
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if there was something that clicked mentally for
Speaker 3: you where you looked around and said, these players, these
Speaker 3: great players that I love to watch, do it aren't
Speaker 3: perfect at the sport?
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. I think you know, in college that
Speaker 4: kind of happened, you know, I think for those who
Speaker 4: don't know, I mean, I wasn't highly recruited in this
Speaker 4: in all of that, and so I remember getting paired
Speaker 4: with and when I was in college Stephanie Meadow, who's
Speaker 4: still out on tour with me, she was like number
Speaker 4: one amateur like most of college when I was there,
Speaker 4: and like in Leonda Maguire was you know, number one
Speaker 4: amateur most of the time the rest of the time
Speaker 4: that I was in college, and so I remember getting
Speaker 4: to get paired with them for the first time and
Speaker 4: being like, man, I can't wait to see you know,
Speaker 4: like what do they do? Like what what can they
Speaker 4: do that I don't How can I get? What do
Speaker 4: I need to do to get better? And I remember
Speaker 4: being like, yeah, they do, like they make a few
Speaker 4: more puts than me or whatever, But there's not like
Speaker 4: anything that they did that I didn't think I could
Speaker 4: also do. And I think that's kind of happened over
Speaker 4: the years as well on tour, finally getting starting to
Speaker 4: get paired with the Lydia's. I've been played with Lydia
Speaker 4: a few times this year, a handful of times the
Speaker 4: last year or so, and I mean, she's unbelievable with
Speaker 4: a wedge in her hand, but there's not really like
Speaker 4: anything else about her that I'm like, yeah, like I
Speaker 4: can't do that. I've never been paired with Nelly, never
Speaker 4: been paired with Lilia, but I mean I've been paired
Speaker 4: with a bunch of me I've played. I've been paired
Speaker 4: with ruining a lot of the people now and there.
Speaker 4: It's nothing that I'm like, yeah, there's nothing that they
Speaker 4: can do that I can't do with a little bit
Speaker 4: of practice and work or anything. Right, I'm not saying
Speaker 4: I'm just as good at everything as them, but there's
Speaker 4: like you can look and see like, Okay, I can
Speaker 4: see that, I can see that I could do that.
Speaker 2: Lauren, tell us a little bit more about working with
Speaker 2: Bob Rotella. I'm kind of interested in that. How long
Speaker 2: have you known him, and you know, how has he
Speaker 2: helped you, not only recently obviously, but just over the
Speaker 2: course of your your career.
Speaker 4: Yeah. One of my really good good friends from Charlottesville,
Speaker 4: Bubba who love the shout out, He's really good friends
Speaker 4: with Doc and so I think about in twenty twenty
Speaker 4: one or so, he was like, you know, do you
Speaker 4: want me to just text him and see if he
Speaker 4: like he wants to go play golf? And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: that'd be awesome. And so that was kind of when
Speaker 4: it started. I just played golf with him, you know
Speaker 4: a handful of times. If I ever need to text
Speaker 4: him or anything, like, he's always willing to talk. But
Speaker 4: that's Yeah, it's been it's been pretty cool. I mean,
Speaker 4: he has great stories, and he's worked with I mean
Speaker 4: name him. He's probably worked with them on the men's side, especially,
Speaker 4: you know, he works with Rory really closely, JT. Shane, Lowry,
Speaker 4: Paltt Padrag Davis Love the Third Like I mean again,
Speaker 4: like name him, and he's probably worked with them at
Speaker 4: some point. So you know, listening to some of the
Speaker 4: stuff that he has to say is is pretty cool.
Speaker 4: He has great stories and again, and you go and
Speaker 4: think that you're the only one that's ever felt certain
Speaker 4: ways at times, and what you learn from them is like, no,
Speaker 4: you're not the only one. Everyone's pretty much gone through
Speaker 4: similar stuff at some point in their career.
Speaker 1: Do you call him doc? Because that's really sick. Is
Speaker 1: that what you call him?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 1: Like text him doc?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what Bubba calls them.
Speaker 3: So that's kind of what Yeah, I mean, it's it's
Speaker 3: uh yeah, that's kind of one of those.
Speaker 4: Like doc doc. Rotella is another one, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Because like like growing up myself, Marty, I'm sure you
Speaker 3: were similar.
Speaker 1: Is Rotella was the guy.
Speaker 3: I mean, he was the books I read through, I
Speaker 3: mean when I was having i mean, putting out of
Speaker 3: your mind is on the shelf behind me. I mean
Speaker 3: that's my go to and I'm really struggling. I think
Speaker 3: it's wild to think there are certain figures in this
Speaker 3: sport when you meet him in real life and Marty,
Speaker 3: I'll nerd out of the PGA show versus like I
Speaker 3: could see Mark Wahlberg walking down the street and I
Speaker 3: would nerd out more if I saw Rotella.
Speaker 1: You know, like that's the that's the world I live.
Speaker 1: It's probably why I do this, But I mean, Rottella
Speaker 1: was our guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have his books on my bookshelf and my
Speaker 2: office at home because I was going to give him
Speaker 2: to my kid to read, and the pages are all
Speaker 2: falling out and I got notes all in there. I
Speaker 2: was just looking at it this a week or two ago.
Speaker 2: So Laura, that's super cool that you, uh yeah, you
Speaker 2: have this recent experience with him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was. It was awesome. I mean again,
Speaker 4: so Terry's been catting for forty six years and.
Speaker 1: Just a couple.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like he had he had never met Rotella,
Speaker 4: and so I was like, oh man, I just want
Speaker 4: you guys to meet, Like I just want to listen
Speaker 4: to you guys talk and like I can't wait to
Speaker 4: hear like stories that you guys might go back and
Speaker 4: forth right, And Terry was like, no, I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: I just want to listen to him. He's like, I
Speaker 4: don't want to. And so what it ended up being
Speaker 4: was like we were just talking about me. It was
Speaker 4: just me and Rotella talking back and forth about Evan
Speaker 4: pretty much, and Terry was like on the edge of
Speaker 4: his seat the whole time, just like loving it, as
Speaker 4: I'm sure you guys would have been.
Speaker 3: Oh it was By the way, is there one thing
Speaker 3: that you said you did you talked about that he
Speaker 3: like pinpointed right away, you know, I mean like negative
Speaker 3: speak things like that that golfers can do. Was there
Speaker 3: one thing in those initial conversations that he saw in you,
Speaker 3: As you mentioned, you're not the first person to have
Speaker 3: these thoughts or these feelings or these situations that you're
Speaker 3: going through. Was there one specific thing that he noticed
Speaker 3: with you and went, let's avoid this or we can
Speaker 3: change this so we can work on this.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think a lot of it for me has
Speaker 4: always been confidence, not just in terms of like putting
Speaker 4: or whatever, just like overall, like confidence in myself that
Speaker 4: I can win I can be, you know, a top
Speaker 4: player like he saw in me. He was. I remember
Speaker 4: he Bubba told me that. He's like he went to
Speaker 4: him after we're like nine holes in and he's like, so, like,
Speaker 4: what's this girl's deal, Like why is she not winning
Speaker 4: on tour right now? And he was like, One, at
Speaker 4: that point, it was putting. My putting was awful, but two,
Speaker 4: it was a lot of it ended up being just
Speaker 4: like again, I wasn't recruited, like I walked on in Virginia,
Speaker 4: like I never thought. I like, if you would have
Speaker 4: told me at the beginning of this year that I
Speaker 4: was going to win once littlone twice like be on
Speaker 4: the Soul, I wouldn't have believed you. I mean, obviously
Speaker 4: that's what I was trying to do in working towards,
Speaker 4: but like that, my belief, just in my confidence wasn't
Speaker 4: really there at that point. And I think Terry's helped
Speaker 4: me a ton with that because he's I mean, he
Speaker 4: was with Anica for nine years in her prime. You
Speaker 4: know that he has sixty nine wins with her, fifty
Speaker 4: five on the LPGA. Like he's been around the best, right,
Speaker 4: And so like when he tells me something. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 4: like you've seen it. He's not gonna bes me. He's
Speaker 4: not gonna just tell me that just to make me
Speaker 4: if he wouldn't be working with me if he didn't
Speaker 4: believe it. Because he's mostly retired at this point, so
Speaker 4: it's like him telling me certain things just has just
Speaker 4: because it's not anything that a lot of other people
Speaker 4: haven't told me, but like, for whatever reason, with him,
Speaker 4: it has just like stuck a little bit more. I think.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One of the things Lauren about tournament golf is just
Speaker 2: is so hard to win in general anywhere. I mean,
Speaker 2: Shane and I have a hard time winning our local
Speaker 2: club championship or a little match play thing. You know,
Speaker 2: when was the Canada? When was the last time you
Speaker 2: won a golf tournament? Was it on the Semetra Tour
Speaker 2: or Mini Tours?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I won, so right out of college, I turned pro
Speaker 4: immediately didn't have any status. So I played a couple
Speaker 4: of state opens in that summer getting ready for Q school,
Speaker 4: and I won both the Tennessee Open and the Colorado
Speaker 4: Stayed Open. And then twenty eighteen, when I was a
Speaker 4: rookie on the LPG, I went down and played an
Speaker 4: EPSENT event and ended up winning that EPSENT event. But
Speaker 4: up until then, that was twenty eighteen, so that would
Speaker 4: be the last time I'd won anything. You have money,
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 3: You're saying six years. I mean again to Marty's point, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that is. I mean, it's learned. It's situational, it's uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: It's like you get yourself in that position. Are you
Speaker 3: leaning on Terry more than you thought you would? Are
Speaker 3: you leaning on the rotella conversations? Are you leaning on
Speaker 3: your own confidence? Or are you just out there playing
Speaker 3: golf because you're trying to close out a golf tournament.
Speaker 3: It's a big, big golf tournament.
Speaker 4: Yeah. When Terry and I first started working, like the
Speaker 4: first he came up, we were to start working at Mizuho,
Speaker 4: and he was going to be cadding for Nasa Hatiyoka
Speaker 4: at the Founder's Cup because the caddies that actually connected us,
Speaker 4: He's really good friends with Greg caddy's for NASA. But
Speaker 4: his daughter was graduating college, so Terry was going to
Speaker 4: take over for him that week just so he could
Speaker 4: be there for his daughter's college graduation. But on his
Speaker 4: way up, he kind of stopped through Charlottesvie, and we
Speaker 4: spent a couple hours together just to kind of really
Speaker 4: get a feel for each other. How do I like things,
Speaker 4: this and that. But a lot of what he said
Speaker 4: was like how important communication is, and like if you're
Speaker 4: feeling because I could, I was telling him at that point,
Speaker 4: you know, any type anytime I felt like I got
Speaker 4: into certain points, I could feel the anxiety, or I
Speaker 4: could feel the adrenaline, you know, like little things like
Speaker 4: that that or if I could feel uncomfortable whatever he knew.
Speaker 4: He was basically just like communication is the most important thing.
Speaker 4: Like I can't help you if you don't tell me
Speaker 4: what you're feeling. He's like, I still may not be
Speaker 4: able to, but like I definitely can't if you're not
Speaker 4: telling me what's going on. And so I remember at
Speaker 4: Mizuho our first week, I made a birdie on the
Speaker 4: fourteenth hole, Yeah, fourteenth hole, to kind of get to
Speaker 4: within like two of the lead. I saw the leader
Speaker 4: board just like on accident, and I got pretty like
Speaker 4: the leaders were still on like seven or eight, Like
Speaker 4: it was not even like I wasn't even really that close,
Speaker 4: but I got like pre jacked up about it a
Speaker 4: little bit, and I ended up making a couple of
Speaker 4: bogies coming in and I remember being like, man, I
Speaker 4: should have told him that I was feeling kind of
Speaker 4: like some adrenaline on that fifteenth teen. I didn't, So
Speaker 4: I remember like texting me, I mean, like I felt it,
Speaker 4: I didn't tell you, like it won't happen again, like
Speaker 4: and so pretty much that's just what a lot of
Speaker 4: what I've been talking through him, you know, like a
Speaker 4: Canada Sunday morning, when during my warm up, I could
Speaker 4: definitely kind of feel I was getting a little quick
Speaker 4: just because you know, I'm excited, right I'm I'm one
Speaker 4: shot back of the lead, like I'm playing really really
Speaker 4: great golf, and I could feel, you know, I was
Speaker 4: just in my tempo was just a little click and
Speaker 4: I could feel it. So, you know, I told him,
Speaker 4: and I'm sure he could see it, but I was
Speaker 4: so you know, he talked through I can't even really
Speaker 4: remember what he said, but you know, he's like, of
Speaker 4: course you're gonna want it, this is your dream. It's
Speaker 4: okay that you want it, but you can't let that
Speaker 4: extra energy like get in the way. You need to
Speaker 4: focus it in on what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think just the just you've kind of learned
Speaker 2: that skill of self awareness. It sounds like, Lauren, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, yeah, and like again it's okay to feel
Speaker 4: those things. Everybody feels them, but I've learned that like
Speaker 4: keeping them internal, which is what I've done for most
Speaker 4: of my career, just trying to get over it. Like
Speaker 4: just know I can do it myself. You know, I
Speaker 4: can do everything myself. I don't need anybody's help. And
Speaker 4: it's like no, like people want to help you. People
Speaker 4: want to whether it's your swing or putting or whatever,
Speaker 4: like Catie, like they they want it. They're there because
Speaker 4: they care, and so let them help you.
Speaker 1: Lauren.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of guys on Instagram that will tell
Speaker 3: you if you need any swing tips too.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they could just reach out and hitch out there.
Speaker 3: I've been getting a few of those lately, by the way,
Speaker 3: because I'm going through some swing stuff and I'm like, thanks,
Speaker 3: appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know I was gonna get
Speaker 1: that either.
Speaker 3: You told you told a great story on the NLU
Speaker 3: Live Show on Sunday about something Terry said to you.
Speaker 3: The Canadian Open to the leech Ravino line. Can you
Speaker 3: just share a what he said and be how that
Speaker 3: conversation started.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I don't really even know how it started.
Speaker 4: I think we were playing a practice around either Monday
Speaker 4: or Tuesday, and he was like, you know, like Lee
Speaker 4: Chavino won three National Opens in a year. You know,
Speaker 4: we're going about to have three in like four weeks, Like,
Speaker 4: you know, we could do that, And then we ended
Speaker 4: up winning Canadian Open. And then you know, last week
Speaker 4: we were talking on the phone about something about leading
Speaker 4: up or in the off week before Scottish and we
Speaker 4: were talking about something and he's like, you know, just
Speaker 4: you know, just letting you know about your letting the
Speaker 4: subconscious know. You know again like Lee Chavino won three
Speaker 4: National Opens in one year, Like we can do that too,
Speaker 4: two for three, two or three?
Speaker 1: Now, by the way, what a call, Marty?
Speaker 3: You just throw that out there, just nonchalantah, go, you know,
Speaker 3: Lee Trevino did this.
Speaker 1: I think Tiger did it as well. Right, didn't Tiger
Speaker 1: pull that off as well?
Speaker 5: You won?
Speaker 3: I think you might have won the US the Open
Speaker 3: in the Canadian one year. I think maybe in two thousand,
Speaker 3: but not a lot of people have pulled off the
Speaker 3: three peats, So we're gonna be We're gonna be.
Speaker 4: Pulling back in nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 3: Too crazy, crazy, We're gonna be pulling very very hard,
Speaker 3: very hard for you. I mean, Marty, you're a guy
Speaker 3: that's played a ton of competitive golf, and you've won
Speaker 3: a lot of golf tournaments. You've played against some of
Speaker 3: the best players in the world. When you feel the
Speaker 3: leap happened, personally, how fun is it to ride the
Speaker 3: wave like for you? How fun is it to ride
Speaker 3: the wave when it's rocking and rolling?
Speaker 5: Yeah? No, super fun. I mean I think my Lauren.
Speaker 2: My like highlight of my career is I played in
Speaker 2: the PGA Championship at Bethpage and I made the cut.
Speaker 2: That was like my life's dream is a working golfer.
Speaker 2: And early in that week I had to practice around
Speaker 2: a range with Francesco Mollinario just won the Open Championship,
Speaker 2: almost won the Masters, and I kind of had that
Speaker 2: same experience you talked about, where, you know, here's one
Speaker 2: of the hottest player in the world. I played a
Speaker 2: practice round with him and I was hitting better than him,
Speaker 2: you know, So it was that kind of got me
Speaker 2: over the hump a little bit and gave me that
Speaker 2: little confidence or that self belief that hey, I gave
Speaker 2: myself permission to do good, you know, and I had
Speaker 2: my team going a lot, a lot of just very
Speaker 2: positive things happening, not only with my mechanics and my
Speaker 2: technical part of my game. But yeah, I think just
Speaker 2: having that, you know, something about having that holistic momentum
Speaker 2: giving yourself permission. I think that what you mentioned about
Speaker 2: the national championships in one year, it is that little
Speaker 2: seed in your subconscious that you know, maybe you realize
Speaker 2: is there when when you're out playing or not, but
Speaker 2: it's given yourself that permission to win.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that talk with Ortella, that was one of the
Speaker 4: things that we talked about. Like he talked about how
Speaker 4: everybody has they're at this like comfort zone. Right for
Speaker 4: some people, He's like, it's people who shoot always shoot
Speaker 4: between like sixty eight and seventy two. You know, there's
Speaker 4: this like subconscious like comfort zone that if they're you know,
Speaker 4: if they're six over with four to play, they're going
Speaker 4: to make some birdies coming in to shoot to get
Speaker 4: in that number, whereas they're you know, if they're six
Speaker 4: under through twelve, they're going to make bogies coming in
Speaker 4: and always kind of be in that that number that range, right,
Speaker 4: because that's where they think that they should be. They're subconsciously,
Speaker 4: So that was a lot of what we talked about,
Speaker 4: or what he talked about, like just getting over that hump.
Speaker 4: The next part was like you just have to start subconsciously,
Speaker 4: start thinking about it, like not really consciously, so that
Speaker 4: you're subconscious will then kind of take over, so like
Speaker 4: just thinking about not just hitting the shots and making
Speaker 4: the putts, but like thinking about winning and that type
Speaker 4: of sense, and a lot of it was like visualization
Speaker 4: and things like that talked about. But I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I've never really thought of it like that. You know,
Speaker 4: when I was in the early part of my career,
Speaker 4: all I was thinking about was the cut, right, So
Speaker 4: where was I always right around the cut?
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 4: And then eventually I started to feel more and more comfortable,
Speaker 4: and you know, I wasn't really thinking about to cut anymore,
Speaker 4: but I was always finishing between like twentieth and fortieth
Speaker 4: and then eventually it's just gotten higher and higher, And yeah,
Speaker 4: I think that was part of it. Was Eviyon. I
Speaker 4: think showed me that No I could win out here.
Speaker 4: Even though I didn't end up winning, I think Evon
Speaker 4: showed me that I could, Lauren.
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask about the relationship with no laid
Speaker 3: Up because you know, their buddies of mine. I've known
Speaker 3: them for a long time. I love what they do
Speaker 3: with their program with players, especially early on, you know
Speaker 3: with some of the players where I'm not exactly sure
Speaker 3: they knew what they were doing, but they wanted to
Speaker 3: kind of, you know, promote and throw some money at
Speaker 3: certain players out there that they liked or that they
Speaker 3: were following, or that they knew. How has that relationship
Speaker 3: helped your confidence helped? You know, the people out there
Speaker 3: on social media, fans things like that, that are following you,
Speaker 3: that are interested in you. What has that relationship in
Speaker 3: dynamic been like over the last few years.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So in twenty nineteen, they tweeted out that they
Speaker 4: were starting the Young Hitters program, which was basically their
Speaker 4: sponsoring Like, I think it's about six guys on the
Speaker 4: corn Ferry Tour, and I followed Tron and I followed
Speaker 4: like the main Twitter account. Honestly, at that point, I
Speaker 4: didn't even know that there was like five guys. Like.
Speaker 4: I listened to the podcast, but I mainly just listened
Speaker 4: to the interviews. I didn't really listen to the recaps
Speaker 4: or anything. I was like, man, I do enough golf,
Speaker 4: Like I don't need to be capping every PJA tour event.
Speaker 4: But I loved the interviews. And then my husband started
Speaker 4: found their YouTube channel and so he was really into
Speaker 4: them as well at this point. And so I saw
Speaker 4: Teron tweeting out that they're thinking about doing maybe someone
Speaker 4: on the epsyn or LPGA, and so I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm just going to shoot my shot. So I sent
Speaker 4: them a DM on Twitter in like March, and I
Speaker 4: think he posted it, which is like embarrassing going back
Speaker 4: and reading it now six years later or five years later.
Speaker 4: But he I messaged him in like the beginning of March,
Speaker 4: and in September he messaged me back being like, let's
Speaker 4: do it. How much was always said like it was
Speaker 4: like circling He never yeah for six months and it
Speaker 4: was like just like it was like circling back, let's
Speaker 4: do this, Like that's literally all he said in it,
Speaker 4: Like it was like four words. So then I ended
Speaker 4: up meeting them. I ended up meeting Tron and DJ
Speaker 4: at a coffee shop in Jacksonville after the Semetro Tour
Speaker 4: Championship because I was gonna be driving back up that
Speaker 4: way going back home, so I don't know. I talked
Speaker 4: with him in a coffee shop for like an hour
Speaker 4: and a half and just like handshake, like, hey, we're
Speaker 4: doing tourist Sauce in like two months. If you want
Speaker 4: to stop down in Pinehurst while we're there. I was like,
Speaker 4: all right, cool, sounds good. But yeah, So that's kind
Speaker 4: of how it started. And then this the relationship just
Speaker 4: kind of grew from there. You know, I got pretty
Speaker 4: involved with you know, my husband. Again, my husband was
Speaker 4: a huge, huge fan of theirs too, and so he
Speaker 4: joined you know, the Refuge their message board, and so like, okay,
Speaker 4: he was loving it, So like okay, I'll get on it.
Speaker 4: And and I've done events and you know, I've gone to
Speaker 4: their n I t which is their like end of
Speaker 4: the year tournament that they do in I did win
Speaker 4: it in Yeah, I got Jackets twenty twenty one. It
Speaker 4: was yeah, I mean and that, yeah, it was. They're
Speaker 4: they're They've just become really really good friends of me
Speaker 4: and my husband. You know DJ and Randy have both
Speaker 4: caddied for me at one point, Like DJ did a
Speaker 4: Epson event, Randy did the Colorado Open when he was
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago. Like yeah, I mean they're
Speaker 4: They've just become awesome friends. And every time I'm around them,
Speaker 4: you know, they they all love golf, and it usually
Speaker 4: just makes me like golf a lot more than I
Speaker 4: sometimes just it's my job, right, So as much as
Speaker 4: I love it, I love it in a different way
Speaker 4: when I'm around them more just for the pure love
Speaker 4: of golf less is like no, this is just what
Speaker 4: I love what I do. But because I don't get
Speaker 4: to do a lot of fun golf, right, most of
Speaker 4: my golf is work, and so it's always fun to
Speaker 4: get to go play golf with them because it's it's fun,
Speaker 4: and I always it recharges my batteries every time.
Speaker 2: Lord, let's let's shift gears to the last two this
Speaker 2: week and last week's Uh Scottish Open? Have you had
Speaker 2: you ever been played golf over there or been over
Speaker 2: and played links golfer? Is this is this your first
Speaker 2: time over there?
Speaker 4: No? My first time at the Scottish Open was twenty
Speaker 4: twenty two, so I played Scottish over there, and then
Speaker 4: I had to go do the qualifier for the British
Speaker 4: which was at North Barrack, which was awesome.
Speaker 1: Was it North Barrick? What wow?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Incredible? Yeah? And then and then I qualified for
Speaker 4: the British which was at Mirfield, So whoa nice, like incredible.
Speaker 4: That was like my real So like I cause I
Speaker 4: played Don Donald and I like dun Donald a lot,
Speaker 4: but it's not quite true Links golf, I would say,
Speaker 4: just because it's a lot of elevated greens. It's not
Speaker 4: quite as firm as I don't know, like when I
Speaker 4: went and played North Barrick, like there was a be
Speaker 4: a bunker, you know, like two eighty out and I
Speaker 4: was hitting like four hybrid to stay short of it,
Speaker 4: like when it was down wind, just because the ball
Speaker 4: just like does not stop. And so like it's just
Speaker 4: very different, like that doesn't happen at dun Donald just
Speaker 4: because there's a lot more undulation and raised greens and stuff.
Speaker 4: So like that was my first real like holy crap,
Speaker 4: this is what Links golf is. And then really struggled
Speaker 4: in the wind back then, and then last year I
Speaker 4: was like okay, I got to figure out the wind,
Speaker 4: the ball does a lot, especially off the tee. Like
Speaker 4: I got to get better at this, and so right
Speaker 4: before the Scottish last year, I actually switched from the
Speaker 4: PROV one X to the pro V just because I'd
Speaker 4: kind of done a little bit of testing. I'd always
Speaker 4: played the X pretty much since college, and so I
Speaker 4: switched to the PROV because I was getting similar, similar, launch,
Speaker 4: similar everything. Just I was getting like a couple of
Speaker 4: undred RPMs less spin, and so I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I mean just less spin a couple if it's only
Speaker 4: a couple hundred, like that makes a big enough difference
Speaker 4: to where like maybe my ball won't especially in crosswinds
Speaker 4: like do some crazy stuff. And so I switched and
Speaker 4: it made a huge difference. I made the cut at
Speaker 4: Dundonald last time for the first time and played, I
Speaker 4: hit some. I played really well in the wind that week,
Speaker 4: and then went to Walton Heath, which was more park
Speaker 4: It's heath Landed wasn't really links. So this was my
Speaker 4: third time over playing link skullf Do.
Speaker 1: You love it?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: Is it? Are you into it?
Speaker 4: Very much?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like weekend and
Speaker 4: week out a lot of it's just like, oh, hit
Speaker 4: it as high landed by the pin, you know, like
Speaker 4: hit a straight ball.
Speaker 1: Whatever, how far does my seven iron go?
Speaker 4: That's what I'll hit it right exactly, Whereas this, it's like,
Speaker 4: I mean, I couldn't tell you how far I was
Speaker 4: trying to hit a lot of things, like I have
Speaker 4: my stock six iron carries about one hundred and sixty
Speaker 4: eight yards. Last week on the full pole, three of
Speaker 4: the four days I hit six iron and the yardage
Speaker 4: was between like one hundred and eighteen yards and one
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty five yards.
Speaker 1: So sick god, I love that so much.
Speaker 4: Like I mean, I was like in the whole before,
Speaker 4: similar yardage, but not quite as exposed. So I was
Speaker 4: hitting like eight iron from like one hundred and eighteen
Speaker 4: yards or like seven iron from one hundred and twenty yards,
Speaker 4: whereas like the next sold's way more exposed, a little
Speaker 4: bit more dead into and I'm hitting six iron like
Speaker 4: pin high and I'm not hitting full shots. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's just I'm just trying to get it just going
Speaker 4: through the wind as straight as I possibly can get
Speaker 4: it and just get it going. I don't know, that's
Speaker 4: it's a lot more fun there's a lot more feel
Speaker 4: and like you have to be one more creative. It's
Speaker 4: it's a lot more fun.
Speaker 3: I think it's it's fun, it's different, it's unique, and
Speaker 3: again if you embrace it. As you mentioned the conditions
Speaker 3: this week expected to be windy and kind of nasty
Speaker 3: at Saint Andrew's, I was gonna ask you, I mean,
Speaker 3: not just because the way you're playing right now, because
Speaker 3: obviously you're playing as good as anybody on the LPGA Tour,
Speaker 3: and I know you're excited about this, and I want
Speaker 3: to ask a couple questions about the old course, but
Speaker 3: in terms of golf tournaments and anticipation and excitement, where
Speaker 3: does an Open at St. Andrew's Land on your list?
Speaker 3: Is it a top the list? Is there anything that
Speaker 3: can beat this?
Speaker 4: I mean, I think the only thing that will beat
Speaker 4: it will be Solheim an hour from where I live
Speaker 4: in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: That'll be dirty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I mean this is like, like both of
Speaker 4: these two events are like once in a career type opportunities.
Speaker 4: Getting to go play the Open at an old course
Speaker 4: and then playing the Solheim Cup in your home state,
Speaker 4: like an hour from where you live. Like those are
Speaker 4: like you know, people don't get to do like that
Speaker 4: doesn't happen for everybody, and so yeah, I mean I'm
Speaker 4: extremely excited, especially like you know, this was marked on
Speaker 4: the calendar as soon as I knew my dad, my
Speaker 4: dad and my uncle are getting here tomorrow. So it's
Speaker 4: it's going to be it's gonna be an awesome week.
Speaker 2: What was your first Uh, so you just went around
Speaker 2: it for the first time today where you just off
Speaker 2: the golf course when we're talking to you, now, what
Speaker 2: was your first impression? Granted you were out there in
Speaker 2: some pretty breezy conditions and kind rained on a little
Speaker 2: bit as I understand it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, it was very windy, but
Speaker 4: I mean it was pretty windy last week at Done
Speaker 4: donald so that wasn't too too different. But it's a
Speaker 4: lot it's I had heard and again I've walked it before.
Speaker 4: Two years ago a friend of mine had a one
Speaker 4: more spot open up, but I let my husband play
Speaker 4: and I just walked.
Speaker 1: Look at you.
Speaker 3: It's like you don't need to get a Christmas gift
Speaker 3: or aniversary gift or stuff like that.
Speaker 4: So I couldn't remember a lot of like the front nine,
Speaker 4: you know, I knew obviously I could picture like seventeen
Speaker 4: eighteen one, but a lot of the other holes kind
Speaker 4: of all blended together. But yeah, I mean there's a
Speaker 4: lot of just blind shots and you just have to
Speaker 4: trust that, like, no, this is where you got to go.
Speaker 4: And so a lot of what we were doing today
Speaker 4: was Terry just being like are you good with the
Speaker 4: line that I'm giving you? Are you good? Like does
Speaker 4: that look okay to you? You know, just making make
Speaker 4: sure everything felt good. I mean there's times out there
Speaker 4: where like we're gonna be hitting in the rough, probably
Speaker 4: on purpose. There's a couple holes just trying to make
Speaker 4: sure you stay out of the bunkers, just because there's
Speaker 4: no really other way to other place to hit it.
Speaker 4: I think hold twelve specifically, like we're probably gonna be
Speaker 4: hitting it in like the right.
Speaker 3: Ruck crazy golf hole, the crazy I contend, and I
Speaker 3: played a decent amount of golf around this great world.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a crazier hole than twelve. And
Speaker 3: Laura and I Caddie did Saint Andrew's out of college
Speaker 3: for four or five months. I still don't know where
Speaker 3: to hit it on twelve. And I definitely don't know
Speaker 3: where to tell people to hit it. So I'd get
Speaker 3: on that times and i'd have some American golfer, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm carrying his bag, and I was like, I kind
Speaker 3: of hope he doesn't hit my line. I'd tell him
Speaker 3: because if he hits, it's probably gonna be in a bunker,
Speaker 3: like that hole is just bananaly Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, so the wind was pumping hard off the right,
Speaker 4: so I was pretty much going at the cart path today.
Speaker 3: Which Marty, I mean, it's almost out of bounds, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3: I guess technically now you're aiming on another golf course
Speaker 3: to try.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I actually ended up I think it ended
Speaker 4: up just going into the fairway, but like that's where
Speaker 4: I was aiming, was like at that right, but he
Speaker 4: was also saying like left and I might go left
Speaker 4: rough yeah yeah, yeah, So but like that's so like
Speaker 4: again like that like no one like where you're never
Speaker 4: going to try to hit it in the rough in
Speaker 4: the US exactly right, like we're trying to. Yeah, but
Speaker 4: like my pro am guy was like, you were aiming
Speaker 4: down that way. I'm like yeah, Like he's like I
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, we're like Terry brought but out the
Speaker 4: book was like, yeah, those are the two places I have,
Speaker 4: Like that's where you need to go. And he was
Speaker 4: like it took him a while to be like because
Speaker 4: you can't really see the bunkers from the tee, right,
Speaker 4: So we're like, yeah, there's a bunch of bunkers like
Speaker 4: all right in there, so we don't want to be
Speaker 4: in any of those. There's no really place to hit
Speaker 4: it between them, so yeah, we're going to hit it
Speaker 4: over here in the rough. And he's just like like
Speaker 4: what I was like, Well, Terry's going to like the water.
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, the rough's fine. It's like pretty thin
Speaker 4: over there, like you have no problem getting in on
Speaker 4: the green. And as soon as he got up there,
Speaker 4: he's like, oh, I kind of see it now, but
Speaker 4: he was just like his mind was like he just
Speaker 4: couldn't comprehend them, Like, yeah, no, I'm trying to hit
Speaker 4: it in the right ruff pretty much and not right
Speaker 4: down the middle of the fairly.
Speaker 2: What was the longest putt you had today, because there's
Speaker 2: some long ones out there.
Speaker 4: Seventeen I think it was my longest one today. So
Speaker 4: I hit it right down the middle. We misjudged the
Speaker 4: wind just a little bit.
Speaker 1: I thought it was what'd you aim at? By the
Speaker 1: way on the building? What was your line? Do you remember?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So I think I was aiming again. One was
Speaker 4: pumping hard off the right, so Terry wanted me to
Speaker 4: hit it over the h and O in the hotel, okay,
Speaker 4: And I ended up hitting it kind of just over
Speaker 4: the l in hotel and it was right in the
Speaker 4: center a fairly so great, but it was like right down
Speaker 4: the middle. But I had one hundred and seventy five
Speaker 4: yards I think to the pin, and and we thought
Speaker 4: like one seventy was playing like one eighty five, which
Speaker 4: is what we were trying to hit it, And it
Speaker 4: was like front, it was like kind of back right
Speaker 4: was the pin. And I ended up hitting like I
Speaker 4: tried to hit just like this punch like four hybrid,
Speaker 4: and the wind just didn't never really touch it. So
Speaker 4: I ended up going way back left of the green.
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I probably had one hundred feet
Speaker 4: probably close to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you are you like this week? Will you
Speaker 3: be putting from off greens? You know to a certain point?
Speaker 3: Are you a hybrid chipper? Do you take like a
Speaker 3: seven iron, Like, what's your plan for shots that aren't
Speaker 3: on the putting surface, But obviously at St. Andrew's the
Speaker 3: grass kind of plays the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, if I can putt it, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: putt it for sure. But I also I don't mind
Speaker 4: hitting on tight low, so I will be chipping probably too.
Speaker 4: But it's just going to depend, right, Like if there's
Speaker 4: a huge like if I have a lot of if
Speaker 4: there's like some huge like some crazy stuff that if
Speaker 4: I putt it, I'm gonna have to put through all that,
Speaker 4: Whereas if I chip it, I can kind of chip
Speaker 4: it around it. I probably will. But if I can
Speaker 4: putt it, I'm gonna putt it. Absolutely. Eleven today, it's
Speaker 4: like the Caddy's joke. It's like the shortest par five
Speaker 4: in the world, right, And it was pumping in off
Speaker 4: the left, like hard off the left and in and
Speaker 4: again just kind of the windows didn't really kind of
Speaker 4: get it, and I ended up in the over the green,
Speaker 4: which is like.
Speaker 1: Dead dead dead.
Speaker 3: I can't give you much advice, as I told you
Speaker 3: my advice on twelve, but I can tell you a
Speaker 3: couple of places not to hit it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, as soon as you hit it and we saw
Speaker 4: it balanced Terry it was like, that's like, I cannot
Speaker 4: believe I just did that?
Speaker 1: Or has has Terry caddied at before?
Speaker 4: Oh seven? He cat yeah, O seven with Anika. They
Speaker 4: finished seventh. He has his book which is awesome from them,
Speaker 4: which is sick. I mean it's tiny compared to like
Speaker 4: the books that we have now. It's it's so small.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so he has and he has all the
Speaker 4: notes in there from them, which is really cool. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm as I'm way long and end up going all
Speaker 4: the way down the swale up into just into the goal,
Speaker 4: like into the tall stuff, and I hit I took
Speaker 4: my three hybrid out and I don't know, there's no
Speaker 4: way I could ever do it again, but I hit
Speaker 4: it till like fifteen feet. It was unbelievable, like literally
Speaker 4: probably the best shot I've hit in like a really
Speaker 4: really awesome time. I was like, God, this is gonna
Speaker 4: be such a sick three. I ended up not making
Speaker 4: the platt but save I mean Bogey. He was like
Speaker 4: on the tee, Terry was like, you're gonna make four here,
Speaker 4: probably a couple of times, and that's gonna be a
Speaker 4: great score. Yeah. No, it was. It's been It's been
Speaker 4: super fun getting to play it. Though. I'm excited. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go play the back again tomorrow and so I'm
Speaker 4: really looking forward to that.
Speaker 5: Nice Lauren.
Speaker 2: Do you make any equipment adjustments for Dundonald in St.
Speaker 5: Andrews's trip?
Speaker 4: Over most of this year, I've used an H grind
Speaker 4: on my fifty eight degree, but I went to a
Speaker 4: tea grind last week.
Speaker 5: That makes a lot of sense. Yeah, that makes a
Speaker 5: lot of sense with the turf over there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I had used a tea grind most
Speaker 4: of last year, so it wasn't anything like, it wasn't new.
Speaker 4: It wasn't new, but the H grind is new, so
Speaker 4: I switched to that kind of towards I think during
Speaker 4: the Phoenix event I switched to the H grind. But yeah,
Speaker 4: so Jack, the LPGA rep brought me, had sent me
Speaker 4: one just in case I wanted it, and I definitely
Speaker 4: needed it last week. Like I was chipping around, I'm like, gosh,
Speaker 4: this It wasn't that. AHE grind is too much bounce,
Speaker 4: so it was just too wide. The tea grind is
Speaker 4: just a lot thinner, so it just goes through it, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Narrower for the for the firmer turf.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Lauren, you come off a win this past
Speaker 3: week and as we were talking about with St Andrews
Speaker 3: and the old Course in the Open, I mean, obviously
Speaker 3: it's a big week. You played great in the majors
Speaker 3: this year. We've talked about obviously the a couple of
Speaker 3: top fives you've had. How do you get yourself right
Speaker 3: back into the mode where I'm going to go out
Speaker 3: and try to win versus being a bit exhausted or
Speaker 3: you know, putting a lot out there last week to
Speaker 3: win the Scottish How do you kind of recommit everything
Speaker 3: and re energize yourself to get prepared and ready to
Speaker 3: rock on Thursday.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So Canada, I didn't really get to celebrate that much.
Speaker 4: I just how the travel ended up and a lot
Speaker 4: of my friends were gone. A lot of my friends
Speaker 4: were at the Olympics, so like a lot of my
Speaker 4: friends weren't around, and so it took me a couple
Speaker 4: of days I would say to kind of like really
Speaker 4: kind of get not get over it, but kind of
Speaker 4: come down from the high and everything. And so we
Speaker 4: went to the dun Vegan, had awesome time, like a
Speaker 4: lot of my friends were like Caddy friends were there
Speaker 4: and friends, and so I didn't really have it, you know,
Speaker 4: I chilled out yesterday. I practiced just I went putted
Speaker 4: for about pready manage, but that was about it. So
Speaker 4: I haven't really had the had to come down because
Speaker 4: I think I actually got it. I got it all out,
Speaker 4: you know on Sunday. Yeah, it's felt a little bit
Speaker 4: different this time. So but I also think, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm very much locked in on trying to get ready
Speaker 4: for this week, and I think that's what I'm really
Speaker 4: really focusing on. So yeah, I'm going to try to
Speaker 4: get some good rest here tonight. I have will later
Speaker 4: tea time tomorrow, so hopefully get to sleep in a
Speaker 4: little bit. And but I'm first off on Thursday. So
Speaker 4: first off, Yeah, so it's going to be early morning
Speaker 4: on Thursday at seven am.
Speaker 3: Where's the range? Is it like on the new course?
Speaker 3: What are they doing for range?
Speaker 1: Is it like over there by the clubhouse?
Speaker 4: Kind of yes, yes, that's where they are, so.
Speaker 3: They have set up on the new that's nice. You
Speaker 3: have to go as far as like the normal people
Speaker 3: have to go. When you have to go all the
Speaker 3: way over there to that practice facility, Lauren, before we
Speaker 3: let you go, because we've had you for a bit,
Speaker 3: can you just talk for a minute about your relationship
Speaker 3: with Ping over the years and how that's benefited you
Speaker 3: throughout your career and how cool it is to have
Speaker 3: a club company that obviously Marty and I are such
Speaker 3: fans of, but to do so many things and has
Speaker 3: kind of a family environment feel to it as as
Speaker 3: well as being such.
Speaker 1: A big brand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've pretty much played ping since I
Speaker 4: was like my first I think real set that I
Speaker 4: ever got fit for. My dad got me upset of
Speaker 4: ping irons and so the Ping G two L I
Speaker 4: still have, like the pitching wedge, the nine iron, and
Speaker 4: I think at the eight iron at my parents' house.
Speaker 4: So though I pretty much just always played ping my dad.
Speaker 4: My dad loved that, you know, they were with the
Speaker 4: you know, the whole color code and everything. As I
Speaker 4: grew kind of just switched. And then when when I
Speaker 4: got to college, Brionna Mao was a teammate of mine,
Speaker 4: and she got she knew mister Solheim just because of
Speaker 4: the first tea, and so my coach was able to
Speaker 4: get a really good relationship with ping, and so I
Speaker 4: kind of I was able, and once I got into
Speaker 4: college I started. I came down there and got fit,
Speaker 4: like really got fit for the first time at ping,
Speaker 4: and so pretty much ever since then, they've I've just
Speaker 4: always play ping. They're the best. I think, you know,
Speaker 4: great people like Scott walbo was. He's no longer the
Speaker 4: LPGA rep, but he has been amazing throughout my whole career.
Speaker 4: And I just personally love paying. I love the look
Speaker 4: of the Irons, I love the feel, I love everything
Speaker 4: about them, and so it's been awesome that I've been
Speaker 4: able to pretty much play them my whole pretty much
Speaker 4: since i've since I was little, since you.
Speaker 1: Got into it. I mean, that's yeah, that's that's that's
Speaker 1: really cool, Marty.
Speaker 3: Do you have anything else for Lauren before we let
Speaker 3: her rest go to bed and try to go win
Speaker 3: the Open?
Speaker 1: Lord?
Speaker 5: Just how excited for you are?
Speaker 2: Are you about clinching your spot on the Solheim Cup
Speaker 2: and it being so close to home? Tell us just
Speaker 2: just let's end on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's I think it's just incredible. I
Speaker 4: don't really have many words yet. I mean, I'm so excited.
Speaker 4: I went I went to my first solhim when I
Speaker 4: was at Inverness in twenty twenty one, and I remember
Speaker 4: being like, man, this would be like absolutely insane to
Speaker 4: be on the other side. And the fact that I'm
Speaker 4: going to get to do it, like I said, like
Speaker 4: an hour up the road from my house, like in
Speaker 4: my home state that I have lived in since I
Speaker 4: was ten, Like it's I'm I'm trying my best to
Speaker 4: kind of mentally prepare for the crowds, Like I don't
Speaker 4: know if I've ever played in front of that many
Speaker 4: people and just you know, the emotions of that week,
Speaker 4: then I'm probably gonna feel. That's what I'm kind of
Speaker 4: trying to get ready for as the best I can. Luckily,
Speaker 4: Terry's been a part of nine of them, so he
Speaker 4: kind of will. Yeah, but it'll it's only a second
Speaker 4: one on the US side. He's done eight on the
Speaker 4: European side, so wow. So's I'm I'm just going to
Speaker 4: be trying to lean on everybody else you know that's
Speaker 4: been there that because that's what I think I'm thinking
Speaker 4: about most right now, trying to mentally prepare myself for one.
Speaker 4: How busy that week's going to be. From everything I've
Speaker 4: heard from. You know, Alison Corpus is a friend of mine.
Speaker 4: You know, she was talking about just like how busy
Speaker 4: it's going to be. I saw Stacy at the Dune
Speaker 4: began like same thing, just like how big, Like how
Speaker 4: busy that week's going to be. So many people are
Speaker 4: already you know, I'm going to come watch you, like
Speaker 4: a lot of friends and people that I talked to
Speaker 4: in a really long time being like, Oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: can't wait to see you there. So I'm That's kind
Speaker 4: of what I'm more trying to mentally prepare for is
Speaker 4: just the excitement that's going to be that week in
Speaker 4: the best way, but trying to then also be able
Speaker 4: to prepare and play well.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and Lauren, you think about the year you've had,
Speaker 3: and you know, we talked about the two wins and
Speaker 3: playing so well in the Majors, but also the Solheim
Speaker 3: kind of switching gears with the dates and it being
Speaker 3: close to home, and all of a sudden you have
Speaker 3: this opportunity that if you play well, maybe I'll make
Speaker 3: the Soul I'm Cup team or maybe I'm I'm on
Speaker 3: the radar, and you have this great year with this
Speaker 3: Solheim coming up, I mean, it's the year, Lauren.
Speaker 4: It just is.
Speaker 1: It's your year.
Speaker 3: This is this is you know what Scottie Scheffler get
Speaker 3: out of our fan right now.
Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's been, it's been. Well, it's I mean,
Speaker 4: I set the goal right at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 4: That's what I was trying to get ready for. Where
Speaker 4: I was, you know, I was trying to make the team.
Speaker 4: I think after evy On especially and even kind of
Speaker 4: before that, I was trying not to think about just
Speaker 4: making the team anymore. I was like, no, I know,
Speaker 4: want to make sure that I'm best prepared to win
Speaker 4: as many points as I possibly can, not just go
Speaker 4: and be on the team, but actually contribute and play well.
Speaker 4: And that's what I think. That's where all my energy
Speaker 4: is going into right now, is just trying to maintain
Speaker 4: my golf as best I can throughout the next few
Speaker 4: weeks and the rest of the year. That's what I'm
Speaker 4: my gosh, how I'm gonna How am I going to
Speaker 4: going to keep getting better? That's where I'm That's what
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think about right now.
Speaker 3: Well, right now, you're playing very good golf. So if
Speaker 3: you can keep this going. I think that'll play. Lauren,
Speaker 3: thank you so much. We really appreciate I mean, it's
Speaker 3: it's nine time, so we h, so we appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Uh you rolling with us for a bit best of
Speaker 3: Lux this week at the Open.
Speaker 1: We are fired up for it.
Speaker 3: We're fired up for the way you've been playing, and
Speaker 3: we can't wait to watch it the Solion Cup as well.
Speaker 3: Go out there and take down the old course. You know,
Speaker 3: just just keep hitting like you've been hitting it. This
Speaker 3: is the Ping Proven Grounds Podcast