1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: He just got inducted into the Texas Radio Hall of 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: Fame a couple of years ago. NFL Draft Analyst NFL 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: dot Com. Dad was a coach in the league selection 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: committee member for the best college offensive line unit. Very respected, 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: very popular radio host in Houston. I've been using him 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: for years. I think his draft preview. I mean, I'm 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: on it every day. This point forward, land Zerline is 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: joining us, and he is joining us live. Okay, So 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: the big story today. Last August I had a source 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: tell me that was close to Howie Roseman, Hertz was 18 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: not loved. 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: I didn't know. 20 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: Why necessary that he could be a little tough to coach. 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: And then there was a reporter that went on the 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: Seth Meyers about Seth Meyers Show, Seth Joyner Show, and 23 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: came out and said he patched the ball he patched 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: the ball. Coach, it frustrates the hell out of the coaches. 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: You remember last year off a by or the year 26 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: before they asked him to throw less, And all of 27 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: a sudden, Jeremy Fowler comes out today and it is 28 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: a dozen sources and it's like he't know well liked. 29 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 3: He's hard to coach. Your take. 30 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: On a team that makes radical moves with quarterbacks and coaches? 31 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: Even Imstein had been to Super Bowls? What was their 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: first take as somebody close to the league on the 33 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurt story and maybe the draft? 34 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, the first time I heard that information 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 4: was last year before the draft, just kind of, you know, 36 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 4: just kind of popped up on a conversation I had 37 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 4: had with the league source, and I was pretty shocked 38 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 4: to hear it. I hadn't heard anything about that previously, 39 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 4: and it hasn't left my mind since then. Colin, when 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 4: you hear something like that kind of impacts when I 41 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 4: watched games, Uh, you know, his his body language on 42 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 4: the sideline, how he interacts with teammates, and we know 43 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 4: he has issues with AJ Brown or AJ Brown has 44 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 4: issues with him. I should say, you know, I don't 45 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 4: think whether smoke. There's usually fire with these kind of things, 46 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 4: and I certainly think Jeremy Fowler's very respected. 47 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, the you know, the ty Simpson stuff is interesting. 48 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: I said, I think he's going to get drafted in 49 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: the fifteen to twenty five space. I think he's a 50 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: better than other guys in recent years who have gone there. 51 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: Not Lamar Jackson obviously, but he's he's better than a 52 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: lot of guys that are drafted there. Jets, Maybe are 53 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: you a believer in ty Simpson? Let's start with that. 54 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 5: Oh man, it's nuanced. 55 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 4: Historically, one year starters just don't cut it, I mean, 56 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 4: because you can't really learn on the fly. In the NFL, 57 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 4: it's very difficult because most of the teams who draft you, 58 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 4: you know, the fan base and the medium. 59 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 5: Will start to turn on you after a couple of years. 60 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 4: We're already seeing it with JJ McCarthy, who did have 61 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 4: a rookie season. He didn't have a rookie season and 62 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 4: didn't start much in college football. I think with tys Simpson, 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: you need to have an organization that has a plan 64 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 4: in place, someone who's already in place, and then you 65 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 4: bring him along more slowly and you know, Frankly, you know, 66 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 4: the Jets could be that team because they do have 67 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 4: a little bit of a runway. 68 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 5: How about we go back to the Eagles. How about 69 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 5: the Eagles. 70 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 4: Being a potential team in the second round if they're 71 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 4: not happy with Jalen. Jalen's under contract until twenty twenty eight, 72 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 4: Ty Simpson could sit there for two years and learn 73 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 4: under Jalen. There's not all that pressure for the first 74 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 4: couple of years. He get the Aaron Rodgers treatment. Wouldn't 75 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 4: that be an interesting selection there? I wouldn't love him 76 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 4: in the first round though, really for many teams because 77 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: of the issues I talked about. Once you draft a 78 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: quarterback in the first round, they turn the sand or 79 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: they turn to you know, they turn the hour glass 80 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 4: over on your job if you're a head coach, and 81 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: if you don't get them developed within the first couple 82 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: of years, usually lose your job. 83 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 5: Same thing goes with GMS. 84 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I like Fernando Mendoza more than my sources, and 85 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: I trust my sources. He's having his pro day today. 86 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: The videos in Lance he looks ten pounds heavier than 87 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: he played under. He looks here's the video that looks 88 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: like a franchise quarterback. He is he looks big shoulders. 89 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I love trunky guys. I'm sorry, 90 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: but when I watch this videotape that looks like two 91 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: forty five six four and a half, I'm sorry. I 92 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: mean that ball comes out. Lance Is he is such 93 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: an easy like a Justin Herbert thrower. Okay, I think 94 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: he's an a prospect. I'm in a you know, people 95 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: are like yo, next year he could be number four. 96 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: I think he's I like the humility, the gratitude. Where 97 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: are you on him? 98 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 4: I'm with you, I'm with you, and I trust I 99 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 4: trust you, Colin, I trust you. 100 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 5: I look. 101 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 4: I think what you see is what you get. With 102 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza. There's no real airrors. I hear people talk 103 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 4: about it. He's kind of corny, he's this or that. 104 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 4: I like guys who throw touchdowns and don't throw interceptions, 105 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 4: and who throw it the accuracy and who are six 106 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 4: foot five, two hundred and thirty six plus pounds. 107 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 5: That's just me. 108 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 4: So I know you can keep your corny this at 109 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 4: and he can keep your cool quarterbacks. I'll keep guys 110 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 4: who throw touchdowns and don't give it away. In the 111 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 4: red zone. It was thirty nine touchdowns no interceptions in 112 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 4: the red zone over the last two years. 113 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: I mean, and that's incredible. 114 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 5: And one of those years is a cow that's pretty impressive. 115 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 6: You know. 116 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 5: He throws with great accuracy. He throws with great placement. 117 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: I think he's got a lot of poison confidence a 118 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 4: touchdown you just saw him throw right there. He took 119 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 4: punishment because he had delivered it and put it in 120 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 4: the only place that Omar Cooper could rise and get it. 121 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 4: I think he checks a lot of boxes. Colin, He's 122 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 4: not the most mobile outside of the pocket. You do 123 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 4: have to, really, you know, put a priority on protecting 124 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: him as a passer. 125 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Cowboys, you have them in your mock draft, 126 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: we can put it up if you want. You have 127 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: him taking Sunny Styles in Ohio State. I want them 128 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: to go defense both sides of the ball in the 129 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: first round. Tell me why you think Sonny Styles works there. 130 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: I think I think he works there easily because he's 131 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 4: the best inside linebacker in the draft. The question will 132 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 4: be will he far fall there? If he gets past 133 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 4: five and six. It could be a little bit of 134 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: a fall for Sunny or it could be a move 135 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 4: up for a team to come get Sunny Styles. But 136 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 4: he works great, does some of the same things Layton 137 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 4: vander ash did when he was there with the Cowboys, 138 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 4: only you know, this is a more explosive version of 139 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 4: inside linebacker with Sonny Styles, who's former safety, who can 140 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 4: come up rattle your cage. He can rush, he can cover, 141 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 4: and he's got tremendous sideline to sideline range. He'd be 142 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 4: a great pickup for Dallas, even if they had to 143 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 4: trade up to get him. 144 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 5: And I'm with you. In the second pick of the 145 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 5: first round, you got to say defense. 146 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 4: I mean you got to go with either a safety 147 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: or a corner, probably a corner. Dallas must attack defense, 148 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: and I would make Now the good thing is here. 149 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 4: It's a really good year for linebackers, unusually good year 150 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 4: for linebackers. So if you don't get one in the 151 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 4: first round, the second round should offer your offer one 152 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 4: up for you. 153 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: Okay, this is a mystery to me, and this is 154 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: not a criticism, but I had Ryan Day on yesterday. 155 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: I thought a year ago I said I think Caleb 156 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: Downs is the best player in college football. I'm seeing 157 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: him sixteenth in year draft. Every mock draft has him 158 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: twelve thirteen. What happened? What I thought he was this? 159 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: I thought he and Jeremiah Smith last year. I'm like, 160 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: I think i'd make him one and two in Smith's 161 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: a freshman. 162 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: Why is down? 163 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 5: I think it's really it's really a matter of how 164 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 5: are you going to use him? Colin? 165 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 4: The way that they used him was kind of an 166 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: overhang nickel where he played there in the slot, which 167 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 4: is a you know, the star position, which is a 168 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 4: really big deal. Mika Fitzpatrick played there, Brian Branch played 169 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 4: there some at Alabama, so. 170 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 5: I mean it's a really important position. 171 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 4: The question is can he translate if he moves back, 172 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: if he plays on the back end a little bit, 173 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 4: How are you going to use him? Is he going 174 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 4: to be like, you know, are you going to use 175 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: them like Ohio State used them around the line of 176 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 4: scrimmage as an add on defender against the run? 177 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 5: How does he? 178 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 4: You know? What kind of athlete is he? How fast 179 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 4: is he? He's not the biggest guy. He's got good size, 180 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 4: but he's. 181 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 5: Not very long. His speed, I think, you know, he 182 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 5: didn't run. 183 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 4: I think most people believe he's probably in the four 184 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 4: or five four range, which is fine. I don't have 185 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 4: a problem with that at all, but I think one 186 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 4: of the reasons he gets kind of hemmed up a 187 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 4: little bit is how are you going to use him? 188 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 4: And you know, when I talk to NFL sources and 189 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 4: kind of what I saw on tapis he's a really tough, 190 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 4: impactful player. But I do question if he has enough 191 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 4: impact to be a top ten type of pick in 192 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 4: the NFL draft. 193 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: So I would if I was the Giants. I think 194 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: they have multiple needs. I like Carnel Tate. I'd move 195 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: down if I could have a right tackle need, a 196 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: weapon neeed to tight end knee, a corner need. I 197 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: think now it may be very hard to trade down 198 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: because we don't have a lot of cornerbacks. I would 199 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: trade down if I was the Giants. I'm not a 200 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: big fan of trading up. I've said before, Lance, You've 201 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: probably heard this rent a thousand times. 202 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: I've said I. 203 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: Would trade down every draft ever unless I needed a 204 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: quarterback and there was a great one. You know, Bears, Okay, 205 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: go get Caleb. Dolphins are fascinating. They got a couple first, 206 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: a second, four thirds, and I'm like, they need everything. 207 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: But with Malik Willis, they need a weapon. Jalen Wattle's gone. 208 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: I can see Miami. I think they're interesting. I can 209 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: see them saying, here we're gonna give up three and 210 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: a five. We've got first here, we've got multiple thirds 211 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: and going getting the best right tackle Fanola to Utah. 212 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: If Jeremiah Love is open at seven, Carneal Tats available 213 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: at eight, I think Miami's my team that could say, guys, 214 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: we got a lot of pick here. We need four 215 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: or five really exceptional players, tackle, receiver. They don't need 216 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: a back, they don't need a quarterback. Am I fishing 217 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: on the Dolphins? If I said to you, give me 218 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: a team that you think could move up, has the capital, 219 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: the need, is there one for you? 220 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 4: Well, I think the Jets at sixteen could move up. 221 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 4: You know, Eron Glenn needs to win now. I think 222 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 4: Darren Musey the GM has a little bit more freedom. 223 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 4: I think they'll be a little bit more patient with him. 224 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: They have a ton of capital draft capital as well. 225 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 4: You make an interesting point with Miami because I think 226 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 4: they're a long way away. I don't think they're in 227 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 4: a rush right now to you know, try to make 228 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 4: it happen. But they have so much draft capital, and 229 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 4: you do have a massive need at wide receiver. I 230 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 4: could see them tweaking the draft a little bit, like 231 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 4: you talked about. You know, the Giants are an interesting 232 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 4: trade back team because they only have two picks in 233 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: the first three rounds, and so that's one of the 234 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 4: reasons I gave them Carnell Tate there because if you 235 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 4: don't get him there, if you don't get a wide 236 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,239 Speaker 4: receiver there to go with Jackson Darting with Malik Neighbors, 237 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 4: I'm not sure there's going to be one available that 238 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 4: you like. 239 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 5: The next time you pick. So they are a trade back. 240 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 4: They are a potential trade back team, and frankly, they're 241 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 4: one of the tougher teams. I think the Titans at four, 242 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 4: the Giants at five, the Dolphins at eleven, those are 243 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 4: some tough teams to try to figure out what they're 244 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 4: going to do. 245 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: Right now, all right, let me look at this real quick. Okay, 246 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: finally you're in Houston. I like CJ. Stroud, I like 247 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: him a lot, but I mean he got his haircut 248 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: after the season. It was almost like he wanted to 249 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: wash the whole season away. I saw a picture him. 250 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, he just he went with the appearance change. 251 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, is he regressing? Is it coaching? Is it 252 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: lack of a run game? If what he marks didn't 253 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: play last year, it felt like he didn't have run support. 254 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: What's going on with CJ. Stroud is huge. I've heard 255 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: rams rumors is are they still all in on siege? 256 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: I think he throws a beautiful ball, but man, he 257 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: had some bad picks. Man, the turnovers are concerning what 258 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: is going on with him? 259 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 5: I think it's a loss of confidence. Really. 260 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: It manifests itself in the footwork not always being where 261 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 4: it needs to be, which which you know, threw off 262 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 4: some of his his accuracy outside the numbers. 263 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 5: And this is over the last two years, not just 264 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 5: last year. 265 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 4: It just hasn't been the same since his his his 266 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 4: rookie season. I think a couple of things to keep 267 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 4: an eye on. They changed quarterback coach. We'll see now. 268 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 4: So you know who's not in the building now that 269 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 4: was in the building in twenty twenty three and is 270 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 4: now in Chicago is Case Keenum. And Case Keenum is 271 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 4: a phenomenal set of second eyes. And it's not a 272 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: surprise that the Bears reup case Keenum because he's basically 273 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 4: like another quarterback in that room. He's like another quarterback coach, 274 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 4: and I think CJ really misses having a guy like 275 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 4: that in his ear, someone who has a second set 276 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 4: of eyes on the field to give him some confidence 277 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 4: and really give them a different feel from a quarterback 278 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 4: standpoint about what the defense is doing. Nick Cass done 279 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 4: a great job. They've added offensive lineman. There's no excuses there. 280 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 4: They've added David Montgomery to go with Woody Marks the lot. 281 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: I like that move. 282 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did too. 283 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 4: I'm a big David Montgomery tank Dell Is back Jayden 284 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 4: Higgins in year two, a Nico Collins is, you know, 285 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 4: a very good wide receiver. There's really no excuses their 286 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 4: offenseive coordinators in year two and CJ. This is year four. 287 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 4: If you don't play well, it's an official regression for CJ. 288 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 5: Stroud. 289 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 4: This is a monster year for him. He will get 290 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 4: his fifth year option. That's going to happen. But the 291 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 4: extension can't happen Colin until you see the same quarterback 292 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 4: or a better version that you saw when he was 293 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 4: a rookie. 294 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: Okay lancerline Watch this stuff a NFL dot Com. You're 295 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: a busy guy. Congrats. I know I'm late on this 296 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: on the Texas Radio Hall of Fame. All your successman, man, 297 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: you do great work. I appreciate it. 298 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Thanks Colin. 299 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, his draft previews were great. He gave no bull 300 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: just gets right to it. I thought was interesting. Philadelphia, 301 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: Ty Simpson, I mean, think about it. 302 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: What are their needs? I mean what is I mean? 303 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: The corners are the best of the game. They've got receivers, 304 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: tight ends, offensive tackles, Sakwon Barkley. What are the Philadelphia 305 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: Eagles need? 306 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 3: Answer? 307 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: Nothing more efficiency at quarterback. I mean, there are very 308 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: few teams I look at. I mean, Rams they don't 309 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: really have. After they got Trent McDuffie at corner, You're like. 310 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: They don't have them. They don't have big knees. 311 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: Even Seattle, as good as they are, You're like, I 312 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: kind of wish they had a number two receiver, you 313 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like Philadelphia and the Rams, I'm 314 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: not sure what their needs are. Ty Simpson, Philadelphia, Let's 315 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: get that party started. 316 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 317 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: and noon eastern non a em Pacific. 318 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 7: Hey, it's me Rock Parker. 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That is 327 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: something to think about this guy. 328 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 8: Oh boy, all right, so we're thirteen months removed from 329 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts winning Super Bowl MVP and now we're trying 330 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 8: to sh trying to ship it out of town or 331 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 8: draft his replacement. 332 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 9: Well done, set a new record, cowhard. 333 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: Hey, when you have standards, get rest on your laurels. 334 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 9: Joe Burrow has made When was the last time Burrow 335 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 9: made the playoffs? Okay, that's right, Yeah. 336 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: But look at his owner. Oh hell, now we're blaming 337 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 3: the owner. Jmak with him. 338 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: I love it. No, turn on the news. This is 339 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: the herdline news. 340 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 9: This is just so damn fun. 341 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 8: All right, let's go to the NFL draft twenty two 342 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 8: days away. Fernando Mendoza. Look at his pro day, he looked, 343 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 8: He look at juice up he was working out with me. 344 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 8: Look us big guys who like to get jacked. 345 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: He swoll ud. Look at the ball. 346 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: You can almost see a keem trail when it comes 347 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: out of his hand. Honest to god, it looks like 348 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: Boeing's latest playing It flies out of his hand. I 349 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: can see passengers on that jet. 350 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 8: I mean, goodness, gracious. Now here's the problem. Clint Kubiak 351 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 8: opened his mouth and he's talking about whether or not 352 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 8: Mendoza is going to start right away. 353 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 9: I don't like this at all. 354 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: Here we go, oh, I hear this. 355 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 10: In a perfect world, that's he's watching a mature adult, 356 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 10: you know, go and he's running offense and run the team. 357 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 10: But you know, he just you know. The situation is 358 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 10: you might have that player, you might not. You might 359 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 10: you might not have that veteran. Just show him the 360 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 10: way so he might come in and have to play immediately, 361 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 10: but you'd you'd rather him learn love before he gets 362 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 10: in the game. You don't always get to pick. It 363 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 10: just doesn't work out. The exact way you wanted to. 364 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 10: But at the end of the day, you want to 365 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 10: make sure that you're bringing in an individual, drafting a 366 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 10: guy that you know is sure enough to handle handle 367 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 10: some adversity, whether it's him starting the first game or 368 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 10: him starting the first game year two. 369 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 3: What bothers you? 370 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 4: What do we do it? 371 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: What? 372 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 8: I mean, it's not like he's a young guy who 373 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 8: got one year starting, like Ty Simpson. How many years 374 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 8: has he started in college? He started, Cal started Indiana. 375 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 8: Kubiak used the word mature. Jose is the most mature 376 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 8: quarterback to end of. 377 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 9: The league in years. 378 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: Here's my take on Mendoza. They're gonna draft him. He's 379 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: going to go to camp and it's gonna be like 380 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. They're gonna go, holy crap. He is better 381 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: than we thought and we liked him. I think he's 382 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: gonna blow people away. 383 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 8: I cannot compare it to Gino Smith, who was the 384 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 8: other guy, that guy from Purdue who was there for 385 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 8: a minute. 386 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 9: He was terrible. 387 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 8: I mean, listen this whole like Patrick Mahomes sat Aaron 388 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 8: Rodgers set. They set behind quarterbacks who were studs. Alex 389 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 8: Smith was the number one pick, went to the playoffs. 390 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 8: Britt Farv needs no introduction, like, this is not that 391 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 8: the Raiders need to start him from the jump. 392 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 9: I don't even like that stat. 393 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 8: We put up quarterback rookie quarterbacks starting are one in ten. 394 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 9: Well, yeah, because they're going to crap teams, right, Like. 395 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 8: Most of those are rookie quarterbacks going to awful teams 396 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 8: who were drafting high. Mendoza is just built different. I 397 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 8: I just don't like this at all. 398 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 3: All right, James J. Mack with the news, Oh, you're 399 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 3: not done yet. Bad, bad, We can wrap it up. 400 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 8: I mean, un. 401 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 3: You have another one. 402 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 8: Bad? They actually got two more. But we are talking 403 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 8: about the Cleveland Browns. Do you want to talk about 404 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 8: it right now? We can do Brown's action if you want. 405 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 8: I know it's not very exciting, but Todd Munkin is 406 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 8: talking about his quarterback room and it. 407 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 9: Sounds like Dylan Gabriel. 408 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 8: He's not doing the things you need to do to 409 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 8: get back in the position to start here. 410 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: He is. 411 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 11: Even we Dispersepiladelph. We disperse to give ourselves a chance 412 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 11: to evaluate who we have on the roster, whoever that 413 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 11: might be, as we go through the off season. Well, 414 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 11: it's too early to really evaluate him other than it's 415 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 11: been great that he's been in the building. It's it's 416 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 11: refreshing to see a player that recognizes where he's at 417 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 11: and where he wants to get to. 418 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: Gabriel hasn't been in going as. 419 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 11: Far as I know, he is not. I have not 420 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 11: seen him going yet. Deshaun was in early when I 421 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 11: got the job, so I got a. 422 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 5: Chance to sit down with him. 423 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 8: Hmm, that doesn't sound great. Something's going on there, Dylan Gabriel. 424 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 8: What is he not showing up? Does it seem like him? 425 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 8: Maybe they're trading him. 426 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: That's interesting. 427 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 428 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 8: I mean listen, and then you got the owner coming 429 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 8: out saying you Deshaun Watson. Oh my gosh, he has 430 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 8: a decent chance to be the starter. 431 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 9: I will sell my owners talking. 432 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: Last, Stefanski like Dylan Gabriel. Dylan Gabriel likes Stefanski. 433 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 9: Atlanta perhaps third stringer. We don't know if Pennix is healthy. 434 00:19:59,040 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: She didn't collect. 435 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 8: They need all the left handed quarterbacks in Atlanta. Basically, 436 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 8: final story, Colin, Let's go to Steph Curry. He's been 437 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 8: out since January thirtieth with a right knee injury, and 438 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 8: Steve Kirk keeps thinking that he's going to return soon. 439 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 8: Apparently Curry had his first full practice yesterday and he 440 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 8: may show up Sunday against the Rockets. 441 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 9: Warriors are tenth in the West. 442 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 8: They will face almost certainly Portland in the play in game. 443 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 8: In the league without Steph Curry, just I mean, it's 444 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 8: not as amazing. Luckily, Luke has been on fire when 445 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 8: Ben Yama is awesome, but I miss Steph Curry. You know, 446 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 8: every night, this guy's just cooking everybody. A real great 447 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 8: ambassador for the league. 448 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: It really when you think about staph or Yannis, when 449 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: you think about these guys, doesn't that make Lebron seem 450 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: more amazing? Like Steph is beat up this year, He's 451 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: had injuries and he's younger than Lebron, and Jannis has 452 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: had multiple injuries. He's much younger than Lebron. And it's 453 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: just it is remarkable to think about Lebron. James, he 454 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: just he had about a two year stretch in LA 455 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: where he was getting dinged up. Just it was about 456 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: it felt a couple of year, year and a half 457 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: he was kind of getting dinged up. When I watch 458 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: all these older NBA players. I mean, obviously Lebron does 459 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: not have the jet fuel. He's not gonna play forty 460 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,239 Speaker 1: two minutes a night back to back like that. But 461 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 1: it just it goes. And it's a very young league now, 462 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: I mean, go to the team Thunders, young Spurs, young, 463 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: even Jokics this year got hurt. Like it's just it's 464 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: it's just incredible that Lebron never gets banged up. 465 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 3: To me, it's remarkable. 466 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant gets banged up, Kawhi Leonard gets banged up, 467 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: Damian Lillard got old very fast. 468 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 9: Somehow Lebron just stays with Lebroun. 469 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: Think about this, This number is crazy. Dell Curry's on 470 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: the show tomorrow. Lebron has played two hundred and ninety 471 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: two playoff games in his career, so he played think 472 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: about this, three and a half seasons of playoff games. 473 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: In those games, you play more minutes, you guard better players, 474 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: are much more intense. 475 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 8: I mean, wait, means he's working on like season twenty 476 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 8: five right now. When you add the playoff game, that's absurd. 477 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 3: This crazy. 478 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 5: We're never, We're never. 479 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's why when they don't play Wemby all 480 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: the minutes. I think the Spurs are smart. It's not 481 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: about Wemby's minutes, it's about his impact. And you're saying, 482 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: I mean anybody that's seven to four. We have a 483 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: history in the NBA of like big guys getting banged up, clotting, 484 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: like it's stuff you have to worry about. So I 485 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: don't care what Wemby average twenty eight minutes a game, 486 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: but when he's on the floor, they're unstoppable. 487 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: I don't have a problem. 488 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, if you got to the finals or 489 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: the Western Conference finals, you're going to push him physically 490 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: as much as you can. But I mean, I just 491 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: I just every time I hear about an old guy 492 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: getting hurt or a young guy getting hurt, I'm like, 493 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: the brala just is just it's just iron man, It's incredible. 494 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 3: Are you done now, let's see here. 495 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah, we're good. 496 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 497 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 2: I just don't Thanks for stopping the herd line news. 498 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: You know, I just get very frenetic on this sho 499 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: I got things to talk about. Just scooting guys out 500 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: of the way. Don't even need my lead blocker. Just 501 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: let me get the hole and I'll burst. 502 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:27,479 Speaker 3: Right through it. 503 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: Hold on, Yeah, you know what it was. The Fernando 504 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: Mendoza pro Day threw me off. I'm so giddy, I 505 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: can't even see straight. This may be the best I've 506 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: ever seen a quarterback look in shorts and a T shirt. 507 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 3: It's like a superhero. 508 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: Just I mean, I'm sorry man, that that is what 509 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback looks like. Sorry for the radio audience, 510 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: I apologize, just I mean, just big, effortless, six four 511 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: and a half, two forty two, forty five, trunky. 512 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 3: In Chicago, it's the hurt. 513 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays 514 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: and newone easternn AM Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS 515 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 2: one and the iHeartRadio app Right. 516 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: Big drama today was Jeremy Foulery. ESPN came out twelve 517 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: sources on things are not great in Philadelphia. They have 518 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: been running through coordinators. We've we've talked about this at 519 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: nauseum for years. Is that it's a very offensive coordinator 520 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: dependent franchise. Is that when Nick Sirianni called the plays, 521 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: it was a mess. He gave him to Shane Steichen. 522 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 3: It was good. 523 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: Steike In Leaves. It's a mess. Hire a new coordinator. 524 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore at works, he leaves. It's a mess. 525 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: So you know. 526 00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: Mahomes her You know certain guys her Bert mahomes Allen 527 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: aren't as coordinator dependent Jalen Hurts is in the story 528 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: today is he's hard to coach, and he's frustrating people 529 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: in the building. And you know, Philadelphia is insanely aggressive 530 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: with acquisitions, trades, moving off a coach that wins a 531 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl against Belichick or a quarterback who did. Here 532 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: is Nick Wright earlier on the drama the story with 533 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and Philly. 534 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 6: One of the reasons AJ Brown in consecutive seasons could 535 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 6: light that locker room on fire and remain popular amongst 536 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 6: his teammates is because I think guys are like, well. 537 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 3: Somebody's got to say it. 538 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 6: I'm glad AJ will take the hit for us. You 539 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 6: can never ask questions can you win with Jalen Hurts? 540 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 6: They did win, and they at one point won like 541 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 6: twenty one out of his twenty two starts. His specific 542 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 6: type of team to have peak success with Jalen, he 543 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 6: had that. I don't know that they have it anymore. 544 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: In what's really interesting, I mean, it's almost a perfect 545 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: comp with Russell Wilson. Russell had the transfer in college, 546 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: neither went first round. 547 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 3: Because of size. 548 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: Both very productive in college, Both very good at the podium, 549 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: never get in trouble, say the right stuff. Both struggle 550 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: sitting in the pocket because of size. Both very elusive. 551 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: Both have great success early in their career in their 552 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: prime get a lot of credit for it. Both can 553 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: be a little as the kids say, cringe at the podium. 554 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: You know, let it ride, go hawks. Doesn't bother me, 555 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: but it bothers a lot of people. There have been 556 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: the same criticisms of Jalen Hurts. It's a little inauthentic, 557 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: fair not you hear it, and then a lot of success, 558 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: big contract and some resentment in the room. I mean, 559 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: I've said this before. It may not be fair, and 560 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: people have picked on Russell Wilson, but it is interesting 561 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: that when he got married there weren't a lot of 562 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 1: teammates there a lot of guys called him out. He 563 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: and Pete Carroll will say nice things publicly, but not ideal. 564 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: It's a lot of the same stuff with Jalen Hurts. 565 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: And you know, for the record, there are qualities about both. 566 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: I really really like they're grown ups. They're adults. They're 567 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: very optimistic, they're very positive. They don't start fires. But 568 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: you hear things in the locker room with Russell, you 569 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: hear things in the locker room with Jalen Hurts, And 570 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: these are teammates and respected reporters. And I heard last August, 571 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: and I was surprised when I heard it. It was 572 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: like he not that popular in the locker room. And 573 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, you know, I was surprised 574 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: when I heard about Russell Wilson. 575 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 3: Like a nice guy. I don't get it. 576 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: Some guys play in the locker room, some don't. Here's 577 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: Lance Zerline earlier on maybe the Philadelphia Eagles are looking 578 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: at Tys Simpson in the draft. 579 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 4: How about the Eagles being a potential team in the 580 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 4: second round if they're not happy with Jalen. Jalen's under 581 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 4: contract until twenty twenty eight, ty Simpson could sit there 582 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 4: for two years and learn under Jalen. 583 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 5: There's not all that pressure for the first couple of years. 584 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 5: He'd get the Aaron Rodgers treatment. Wouldn't that be an 585 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 5: interesting selection there? I wouldn't love him in the first 586 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 5: round though. 587 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 4: Really for many teams because of the issues I talked about. 588 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: Hmmmm, all right. 589 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: I know I've been a little gaga on Fernando Mendoza. 590 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 3: And I don't think pro days mean anything. 591 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: But you know how sometimes somebody walks into a room 592 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: and you're like, Wow, that's impressive. You've been working out, bro, 593 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: or you get your haircut, or I'm just telling you. 594 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: When this image goes on the screen, he looks bigger 595 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: and we'll find out the stories. He looks a little bigger, 596 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: a little thicker than he did at college. And I 597 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: never thought the athletic has an NFL reporter there. And 598 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm following on the screen what my staff because they 599 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: can read it during the show. Jeff Howe, I know, 600 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: Jeff Howe. 601 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 3: Quote. 602 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza had an impressively clean throwing session. Completed fifty 603 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: three of fifty six passes, two drops, through fifty six 604 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: passes in twenty minutes, two very quick breaks, really impressive workout. 605 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: So basically one in completion fifty three fifty six with 606 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: two drops. 607 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 3: My guys like him. I love him. 608 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: His hair even looks like a franchise quarterback. I'm sorry, Yeah, 609 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: it is interesting that you know. The knock on him 610 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: is you know, he's a little robotic. That's what they 611 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: said about Justin Herbert and Herbert. Every gem I talked 612 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: to loves Herbert is that here's the upside to being 613 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: a little predictable and a little robotic. 614 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 3: I know you're not. 615 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: Going to be guy that just takes off. We think 616 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: about the psychology of it. If you're not a great 617 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: athlete Mendoza, Matt Ryan, Jared Goff, Matt Stafford's a great 618 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: athlete but not a mover, what does it force you 619 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: to do? Peyton Manning be better in the pocket? Right, 620 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: Like the reality of life. Kids figure it out very quickly. 621 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: Let's say you're a seven year old boy, eight year 622 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: old boy, nine year old boy, ten year old boy, 623 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: and the girls make fun of you. Don't you think 624 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: it's more likely you go into math science. You're not 625 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: going to go You're not, You're not. I mean I 626 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: always said, you want to find an unhappy guy. It's 627 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 1: not about the parents. It's about how girls treat him 628 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: in high school and college. Is that a women dictate 629 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: a lot of men's happiness? And I think when you're 630 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: a young man seventeen eighteen, nineteen twenty, how people treat 631 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: you figure things out on the fly. Is that, Hey, 632 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm social, I'm awkward. I knew very early I was 633 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: awkward socially, and I'm just awkward. 634 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 3: I don't like going to parties. 635 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: But some people are very social and handsome and this 636 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: and that. Mendoz is smart. He knows the textbook to 637 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: be great. Is Tom Brady obsessive, grateful, humble, prepared. There's 638 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: a story came out the other day. He's already memorizing 639 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: the Raiders playbook. 640 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 3: And I think, I. 641 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: Mean, Peyton Manning figured out very early with his brothers. 642 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: He was less athletic than his dad. He was less 643 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: athletic than this guy. Peyton Manning figured out very quickly. 644 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna win with preparation. I mean, for I think 645 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: guys know it. I also think if you're Josh Allen 646 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: and you're just running over people in high school and college, 647 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: it's not that you don't do film study, but you 648 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: may not grind the tape quite as much as Jared Goff, 649 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: who knows. Without the ability to make quick reads, Jared 650 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: Goff's gonna get hit. And so I think, I think 651 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna speak for men. We figure out at 652 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: very quick ages. Where we fit in life if we 653 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: pay attention? Are we social? 654 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: Are we not? Are we athletic? 655 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember the first time I went to 656 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: college and played basketball with Division one players, like top players. 657 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: One practice, I was like, yep, well I'm gonna be 658 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: a broadcaster. 659 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 8: Well we all change, Colin, you grow and develop and everything. 660 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 8: I mean, I don't want to go there. Back to 661 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 8: your Mendo's a point on him as a quarterback looking 662 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 8: great and shorts and a T shirt. If some people 663 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 8: out there needed that film, Oh well, that's the guy. 664 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 8: That's my Raiders, not the dish. I think that's that's 665 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 8: an issue. Go put on his tape against Penn State, 666 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 8: that game winning drive. Go watch the tape against Alabama 667 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 8: carving them up. Or I don't know, any drive against 668 00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 8: Miami in. 669 00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 9: The second half. 670 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 8: Like I've felt this way about Benzza for a while. 671 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 8: He's slammed dunk number one, all these guys on the fence. 672 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 8: I don't know, that's an easy one. Nobody disputes that. 673 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 1: My question is I'm not saying he's Andrew Locke, but 674 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: what if he's a lot closer than people think? 675 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 3: But then the Raiders will be Raiders. 676 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 9: Will be pretty good next. 677 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: So the feeling is his comp is Matt Ryan. He 678 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: is bigger, thicker, better, arm stronger than Matt Ryan. 679 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 8: And Matt Ryan coming out with pretty pretty damn good 680 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 8: coming out of us. 681 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: And I'm saying this kid's a bigger thick that's my take. 682 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: He's better than Matt Ryan coming out right. 683 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 9: I don't hate it. 684 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 8: I mean, and you use the word trunky like six 685 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 8: times today, So are you gonna go hug a tree 686 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 8: like after this 687 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: Sham darnold super Bowl champ trunky switchy