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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, let make

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Why is the Obama

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Speaker 1: Presidential Library and Museum the ugliest building any of us

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Speaker 1: have seen in a very long time? Why does the

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Speaker 1: Obama Presidential Library already look like a cross between the

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Speaker 1: Death Star and a KGB interrogation center from the nineteen seventies.

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Speaker 1: What the heck is going on? And also why is

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Speaker 1: it so expensive? These are all fair questions. You would

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Speaker 1: think that Obama, because he's supposed to be the most

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Speaker 1: amazing president of all presidents of all time. You might

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Speaker 1: think to yourself, Hold on a second, isn't he supposed

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Speaker 1: to have the best of the best working on this project.

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Speaker 1: Isn't he supposed to be Well, here is what President

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Speaker 1: Trump has to say about Obama's library, the pictures of

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Speaker 1: the architecture, and yeah, I did.

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Speaker 2: It's not too pretty, you know, but it's it's slums.

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Speaker 2: It's stopped. They read. Out of money means building a

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Speaker 2: library slash museum. You know, you call some museums and

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Speaker 2: usually they call they call it library and museum.

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Speaker 1: Let's the official name and.

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Speaker 2: This stuck, and he wanted only women in DEEI to

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Speaker 2: build it. You know, that's what they got.

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Speaker 1: Now. Of course, there is a lot of pushback on

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Speaker 1: this because people are saying, well, hold on a second,

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Speaker 1: look what Trump is doing with the White House. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to that first of all, the Obama Presidential Library,

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Speaker 1: I think is very fitting because it is both grandiose,

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Speaker 1: wildly overpriced, and and depressing all at the same time.

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Speaker 1: So in a sense, it's a bit like the Obama presidency.

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Speaker 1: In fact, yes, that is the Obama presidency really full

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Speaker 1: of itself, way too much money spent, and at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day we're all left being sad. So

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Speaker 1: maybe I should just think of this as it's the

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Speaker 1: perfect way. It's a perfect way to depict his presidency.

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Speaker 1: But you would think it would not be so awful.

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Speaker 1: It's going to cost seven hundred million dollars. Seven hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollars. That's oh, I'm sorry, eight hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: million dollars. Total cost eight hundred and fifty million dollars construction alone,

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Speaker 1: seven hundred million dollars. Initially it was supposed to be

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Speaker 1: three hundred million dollars. This is perfect it's like the Cleindra.

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Speaker 1: Remember that. It's like the cylinder of presidential libraries. Just

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Speaker 1: a very big, expensive disaster with a terrible final And

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Speaker 1: what are they even what are they even saying about this?

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering. Here we go the Barack Obama Presidential Center.

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Speaker 1: This is on Wikipedia, so you know, communist propaganda. It's

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Speaker 1: in Chicago, commemorates Barack Obama, YadA YadA Center includes the

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Speaker 1: Presidential Library, National Archives and Records Administration. The Obama board

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Speaker 1: includes all these different people. Okay, director of the museum.

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Speaker 1: Who is the I'm trying to find. The planning is

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Speaker 1: on University of Chicago proposal Barack Obama Foundation, mayor men

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Speaker 1: mayor Rama manual announced foundation blah blah. I'm going through

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Speaker 1: this design committee. Members of the committee included Don Gummer,

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Speaker 1: architectural Digest magazine editor. And yeah, it's horrible. Bottom line,

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Speaker 1: it's the ugliest thing I've ever seen that's supposed to

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Speaker 1: I mean this thing makes the jed or Hoover building

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Speaker 1: renot project. Oh my gosh, Trump is trying to make

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Speaker 1: White House ballrooms great again. You know what, what is

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Speaker 1: the big deal? Why do they have to freak out

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Speaker 1: so much about everything? That's a That's a very good question,

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Why can't they just because they hate Trump so much?

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Speaker 1: That's really it. There's nothing beyond in many of these cases,

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Speaker 1: And even if that makes them look silly, even if

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Speaker 1: the White House Ballroom edition. I've seen. I've seen what

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be quite nice.

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Speaker 2: An interior shot of the ballroom. I think there'll be

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Speaker 2: nothing like it. And it's being paid for one hundred

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Speaker 2: The government's paying absolutely nothing. We're also working with the

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Speaker 2: and the military is very much involved in this. They

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Speaker 2: see the kind of interiors that we're talking about. That's

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Speaker 2: an interior of the ballroom, and it's the highest level,

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Speaker 2: and you see it goes beautifully with the White House.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the mix is beautiful.

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Speaker 1: It's gona be quite nice. But the reporters are all

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Speaker 1: I think it'll be a great think about it. The

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Speaker 1: Trump has been talking about it for a long time.

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Speaker 1: And also we can get into some of this, but

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Speaker 1: and I will get into this, there have been plenty

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Speaker 1: bitter and they burned down our White House. Was not nice.

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Speaker 1: Not nice, some people are saying not nice. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: And it's also something that, yeah, we know future it's

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Speaker 1: but we know that future White Houses will all include

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Speaker 1: This is clearly not just for Trump's use. I think

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Speaker 1: here about White House renovation. I think little interesting history,

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Speaker 1: in the past. Teddy Roosevelt built the West Wing. Yes, indeed,

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Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt. In nineteen oh two, he commissioned architect Charles

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Speaker 1: conservatories with the West Wing to separate family and staff areas.

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