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Speaker 1: Minicamp is in the books, O t as have been

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Speaker 1: This is the beginning of the NFL vacation mode. But

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Speaker 1: Ravens have prioritized improving the offensive line, But with all

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Speaker 1: the recent draft picks, the front office still signed Zeitler,

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Speaker 1: filling a Wava show Field and an injured Juwan James.

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Speaker 1: What does that say about the draft picks? Are the

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Speaker 1: Ravens disappointed with their progress? The most shocking to me

431
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Speaker 1: was Jeames, even if for the future that signing creates

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Speaker 1: a question mark on Phillips. Thanks as always, Will Saunders,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Will, And as we've said, you can emails

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Speaker 1: at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Make

435
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Speaker 1: sure you sent us as emails because we're going into

436
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Speaker 1: the cold. It gets hot outside, but this is the

437
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 1: cold period of the NFL and we're gonna need some

438
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Speaker 1: questions for you all to get us through this period

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Speaker 1: before training camp starts. Let's be honest, um, we might

440
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Speaker 1: have to come up with some more competitions, some more drafts,

441
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Speaker 1: so I can just continue to my hot streak in drafts.

442
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 1: I think I won the last one, isn't that correct.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that you've ever won one. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna give it to you. I'm not kidding. There's no

445
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Speaker 1: way I'm just handing you a win. I don't even

446
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Speaker 1: remember where the last draft was, but I do know

447
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Speaker 1: I'm not handing you a victor anyway. Good question, Will,

448
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Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing, I think obviously we have

449
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Speaker 1: yet to say whether you know the Ravens really hit

450
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Speaker 1: on on a guy like you know, Ben Powers or not. Tyree,

451
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Speaker 1: you know, he's just entering his second season. He was

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Speaker 1: a starter last year, started several game, more than several

453
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Speaker 1: games as a third round rookie. That's pretty darn good.

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Speaker 1: But I agree with you. You know those guys we

455
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Speaker 1: mentioned them, you know they're in competition at left guard.

456
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: They're not a shoeing to win it. Uh, they could

457
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Speaker 1: just become really good backups, valuable backups. I'll say this

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Speaker 1: about Tyree is if he doesn't win a starting spot

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Speaker 1: at left guard, he's probably your third tackle right, which

460
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Speaker 1: is an important job. Honestly, your swing offensive tackle. Uh,

461
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Speaker 1: is a really key role because who who do the

462
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Speaker 1: Ravens really have outside of Ronnie Stanley and Villanueva. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Patrick McCarry played tackle in college. He could potentially step

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Speaker 1: in in a pinch, uh. You know, but Andre Smith,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean he just got onto the field

466
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Speaker 1: but from ANNI camp and didn't see a lot of reps.

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Speaker 1: You guys got a ton of starts under his belt.

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Speaker 1: But is he gonna make the team? You know? I

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Speaker 1: I more see them saying to Tyree, this guy can

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Speaker 1: play every Asian but center. You know, that makes him

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Speaker 1: incredibly valuable in case somebody were to get hurt. And

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, you never see an offensive line the

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Speaker 1: starting five from week one play every single game. It's

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Speaker 1: all sixteen. So you know, Tyree Phillips, I think, even

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Speaker 1: if he isn't in the landing starting job, is still

476
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Speaker 1: a key player. And and the Ravens, you know, Ben

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Speaker 1: Bredeson is another mid round pick that hasn't become a

478
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Speaker 1: big time player yet. But let's not forget Bradley Boseman

479
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Speaker 1: was what a fifth, sixth round pick who is now

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Speaker 1: looking like the Ravens starting guard and somebody we're we're

481
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Speaker 1: talking about getting start start starting center, and somebody that

482
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Speaker 1: we're talking about getting a contract extension. Sixth round pick

483
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Speaker 1: Bradley Bozeman right Orlando Brown was the third round pick.

484
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Speaker 1: That one worked out pretty darn well that you flipped

485
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Speaker 1: into a first So you know you're not gonna hit

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Speaker 1: on every single draft pick. The Ravens have made a

487
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Speaker 1: lot of mid to late round offensive lineman selections. Some

488
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Speaker 1: of them hit to be determined on some others sure,

489
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Speaker 1: And like, I think you make a good point about Tyree. Also,

490
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Speaker 1: if he can play all these different positions, then that

491
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Speaker 1: kind of eliminates well, I think what hurts. An offensive

492
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Speaker 1: line is one guy gets hurt and all of a sudden,

493
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Speaker 1: four positions change because there's a domino effect that takes place.

494
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Speaker 1: You know, left tackle gets hurt and now you're moving

495
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Speaker 1: one guy from guard to tackle that you've got a

496
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Speaker 1: new guard that's in there. Like, I don't like when

497
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden the line is blown up with Phillips,

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Speaker 1: like if you haven't, because continuity matters a lot, Absolutely

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Speaker 1: it matters. And when you have with Phillips, if he's

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Speaker 1: not a starter, say Ben Cleveland's starter, and you have

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Speaker 1: an injury at any spot other than the center, he

502
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Speaker 1: can can step in and fill that job. So I

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Speaker 1: think that that's good in terms of whether like I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens had to need it at tackle still so like,

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Speaker 1: and if you get Villanueva, who has been a long

506
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Speaker 1: time starter in the league, like part of it just

507
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Speaker 1: you also want the best team. So like, I don't

508
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Speaker 1: know that there's any sort of like referendum on the

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Speaker 1: young offensive lineman because the Ravens added Juwan James, Like, okay,

510
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Speaker 1: so they got a guy who signed a monster contract

511
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Speaker 1: to three years ago, who was considered a really good player.

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Speaker 1: They get him on the cheap and they get to

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Speaker 1: see what he has like that is a yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's call it what. Let's call it what

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Speaker 1: it is. The Ravens obviously thought that Villain the Wava

516
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Speaker 1: is better right now then Tyree Phillips right, and they

517
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Speaker 1: probably and they potentially feel like probably feel like John

518
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Speaker 1: James is better, you know, late this season or next year,

519
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Speaker 1: then then Tyree Phillips is the right tackle. Also. That's okay,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. It doesn't mean that they think James is

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Speaker 1: just you take you take a flyer on like like

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Speaker 1: the James thing, it's just a it's a good move.

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Speaker 1: You just you take a flyer on a guy who's

524
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Speaker 1: injury right now. You see how he looks when he

525
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Speaker 1: gets healthy, and then you can determine what his role is.

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Speaker 1: That like a really high quality player who hasn't been

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Speaker 1: on the field and basically three years, but when he

528
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: was on the field, he was really good. So um,

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Speaker 1: I think that the offensive line is still a work

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Speaker 1: in progress, but I do like it. I like Zeitler,

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Speaker 1: I like villan Aueva. Obviously, like a key piece of

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Speaker 1: it is when Ronnie Stanley gets back on the field,

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Speaker 1: may not be. You know, John Harber did say this

534
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Speaker 1: week may not be day one of training camp, but

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Speaker 1: the expectation is still it'll be ready for the start

536
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Speaker 1: of the season. So you know, of course you want

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Speaker 1: him on the field as early as possible, but you

538
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: also want him healthy when he gets on the field.

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Speaker 1: No sense of rushing Ronnie Stanley back on the field

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Speaker 1: just so you can hit some arbitrary deadline of first

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Speaker 1: day of training camp. He's out there, like, you want

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Speaker 1: him healthy more than you want a healthy in September, October, November,

543
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Speaker 1: December rather than July seven or whenever. The first day

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Speaker 1: of training camp is um all right. And also the

545
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Speaker 1: last thing I'll stay about the offensive line. I think

546
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Speaker 1: you solidify the offensive line and the line plays like

547
00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: it did in this offense is going to be EAPs

548
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: and bounds better than it was last year. I just

549
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Speaker 1: think if I like, if you're saying, what is the

550
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Speaker 1: key to this offense having mega success in one? Is

551
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: it the new weapons, having chemistry with Lamar, is it whatever,

552
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: all the different possibilities. I'm old school and saying that

553
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Speaker 1: I think that if you solidify the line and that

554
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: group plays at a high level, really high level, then

555
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: all the other things were fall into place. I totally agree,

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Speaker 1: and I think the I think the Ravens have the

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Speaker 1: potential to have a really good offensive line. I really do. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree. Alright, So third tight end, top two are

559
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: gonna be Mark Andrews, Nick Boile, Nick Boyles, another guy

560
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Speaker 1: who hasn't been back on the field yet. Is he

561
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Speaker 1: back the first day of training camp, We'll see. But

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Speaker 1: whenever he's back, not worried about Nick Boyle. He's gonna

563
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Speaker 1: be ready to go whenever he does get back on

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Speaker 1: the field. Third tight end, you got Josh Oliver, who

565
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: the Ravens traded for in a move with Jacksonville. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You had Eli Wolfe, who was an undre after rookie

567
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: last year who people were excited about, you know, spent

568
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Speaker 1: some time on the practice squad, dealt with injuries. How

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Speaker 1: do you see this position, this spot playing out? You know,

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Speaker 1: I I really I think right now probably, Uh, the

571
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Speaker 1: leaders for me would be Josh Oliver or Eli wolf

572
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Speaker 1: I really like what I've seen from Eli wolf To

573
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: be honest, you know, Josh Oliver is an intriguing player

574
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Speaker 1: because you know, he was a former third round pick

575
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Speaker 1: in the trade and all that, um, you know, and

576
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Speaker 1: just his body type, I mean, you know, talking I

577
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Speaker 1: think to John Iceberg, he was like, you know, does

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Speaker 1: he does he kind of remind you of Darren Waller.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, let's pump the brakes a little

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Speaker 1: bit on that. I'm not going to put him in

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Speaker 1: that category. Um, you know, I don't think he's quite

582
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Speaker 1: as big, could not quite as like just filled out

583
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Speaker 1: and athletically gifted as Darren Waller as who was one

584
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Speaker 1: of the absolute, you know, most athletic specimens in the NFL.

585
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Speaker 1: I would have to say, um, but like shades of that, okay,

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Speaker 1: I can see it, you know. And and he caught

587
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: a lot of passes on Wednesday. He dropped one, but

588
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: he was active, you know, so that's good to see.

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00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: You know, the quarterbacks are trusting him and he's making

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Speaker 1: the play for the most part. He had a nice

591
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Speaker 1: kind of play where he had to really pluck it

592
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Speaker 1: off the turf and see a big man like that

593
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Speaker 1: bend and get that ball. I thought was impressive. But

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Speaker 1: I really like Eli Wolf. He he he reminds me

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Speaker 1: of Hayden Hursts a little bit. And and he was

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Speaker 1: very active in o t a s um looked like

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Speaker 1: something was bothering him a little bit on practice Wednesday,

598
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Speaker 1: cramping up or something like that. But um, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I like Eli Eric. Eric Thomlinson is another guy who

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Speaker 1: I didn't mention, but he was on the team at

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Speaker 1: the end of last season. He's big. I mean, he's

602
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Speaker 1: warn that Nick Boyle not quite not that big, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a blocker that's there's not there's I mean I

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Speaker 1: think that that Nick's probably the biggest, one of the

605
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Speaker 1: biggest blocking tight ends in the league. So he's no,

606
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Speaker 1: it's hard to compare anybody to that, but he's more.

607
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: He's more in that mold than Eli Wolf and they're

608
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Speaker 1: much different physical players. Thing with Eli Wolf to me,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's got down the field. He's he's kind

610
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Speaker 1: of been on and off over his time here, you know,

611
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: dealt with some injuries. I think he's got to prove

612
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Speaker 1: once they get out of air in training camp that

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Speaker 1: he can make it through preseason, make it through a

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Speaker 1: full training camp, and stay healthy. That that's a big question. Uh, well,

615
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna a lot of that. I think is also

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Speaker 1: going to be special teams, right, your third tight end spot.

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00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: That player should be a good special teams player. Um,

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Speaker 1: and I I think the interesting thing there is what

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Speaker 1: happens with Ben Mason. I was just gonna say that totally.

620
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Speaker 1: I mean, because you're not gonna have two full but

621
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Speaker 1: you don't carry two right backs basically, so is Mason

622
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Speaker 1: good enough? Is like if nobody really separates as a

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Speaker 1: third tight end when you say, yeah, that guy is

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Speaker 1: gonna be really useful on offense, do you just keep

625
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Speaker 1: Ben Mason to then have like your backup essentially to

626
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Speaker 1: boil slash for card and and you know, make sure

627
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Speaker 1: that you keep a rookie that you invested a fifth

628
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Speaker 1: round pick in. You know, So that is that's actually that,

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Speaker 1: that's actually that's actually I see a plane that none

630
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Speaker 1: of that, none of those other guys separate enough. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm I don't want to do the

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Speaker 1: full fifty three man prediction right now, but I think

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Speaker 1: as it stands right now, I would see Mason being

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Speaker 1: on the team and then maybe only keeping two tight

635
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Speaker 1: ends because like I said, you're not gonna keep two fullbacks,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't think and three tight ends, especially when Mason

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Speaker 1: is kind of a hybrid tight end. Fullback, and you

638
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Speaker 1: could also use the card in that fullback hybrid role,

639
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: like which what the Ravens did some of last year.

640
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: And when the question is, you know what everybody loves

641
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: to talk about is, oh, Greg Roam loves tight ends

642
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: and three tight end formations, multiple tight ends, and sure

643
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: yeah he did a lot of that. When when it

644
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: was Mark Andrews, Nick Boyle and Hayden Hurst, Right, you

645
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: had a first round picking in the Hayden Hurst, well

646
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: you traded him and now you've invested a wide receiver.

647
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: So the offense is going to evolve a little bit,

648
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: as Greg roman Is said, and expand the profile a

649
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: little bit. Maybe that means we see more three wide

650
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: receiver sets and less of the multiple tight end spots.

651
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: But it you know, with all that said, you if

652
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: you have an injury there, right, like Nick Boyle's injury

653
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: last year, really hurt this offense, really hurt it. And

654
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: so if you have an injury, you can't be shorthanded

655
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: there because the tight ends blocking, particularly in the run game,

656
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: are so important. Yeah. Yeah, alright, so you talked about

657
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Let's let's go through that quickly. The guys

658
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: who are definitely gonna be on the team. I mean,

659
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: the top three receivers are Hollywood, Sammy Watkins, and Bateman.

660
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: Those are your top three receivers. Bateman has the ability

661
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: to play inside, outside, We have talked about that on

662
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: the podcast. He could definitely be in the slide in

663
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: those three receiver sets he could be outside and two

664
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: receiver sets he could rotate with Sammy walk Ins. And

665
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: then you know, Devin DuVernay could slide inside or Tylan

666
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: Wallace potentially could slide inside. But anyway, those are your

667
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: top three. Then I think dud I think Duverna is

668
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: definitely on the team. Um and and then you've basically

669
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: got prochet Boykin, Um Thayland Wallace, Tylan Watson is gonna

670
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: be on the team. You got proche boykin. I mean,

671
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: it's hard to even Benjamin Victor, by the way, I thought,

672
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: was maybe the next to Sammy Watkins, had the best

673
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: day of any receiver. Uh in Wednesday's practice. The guy

674
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: was placed down the field? I mean, was he not

675
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: was he not making plays down the field? Had a

676
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: couple of It's gonna be tough for Benjamin Victor to

677
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: make the three man team, but he looked pretty darn good. Uh.

678
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: In practice, I kind of see it as Boykin Prochet

679
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: competing for one of those last roster spots. Yeah, I mean,

680
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be really tricky. I think a

681
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: lot of it for James Prochet's special teams and is

682
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 1: either returner or does Devin Dune take both the kick

683
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: returner and punt returner jobs. That's gonna be important for

684
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 1: Proche to say I'm that much better as a returner

685
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: than Devin done that I deserve a roster spot. And

686
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: I really like James Parochet. I think he's been one

687
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: of the standouts of O T A S and minicamp.

688
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: You know, he's just getting better, and I've always thought

689
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: he was a good player, So I really like him. Um.

690
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: I think Miles Boykin is really the most interesting case

691
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: here because here you have a guy who start, who

692
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: was the starter last year, you know, and and there's

693
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 1: no bones about it. He's probably he's the best blocking

694
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: wide receiver on the team. And I know that that's

695
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: not what fans want to hear about, you know, I

696
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: understand that when you talk about wide receivers, what matters

697
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: most is catching the ball and score and touchdowns. But

698
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 1: blocking is important, especially in a run heavy team. Uh so,

699
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, and and he's practiced well, like I think

700
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: Miles Woygan has made some plays in practice. Uh you know,

701
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: he's he's catching the ball well, had a diving catch

702
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: on Wednesday that I thought was right there with Sammy

703
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: Watkins long catch from Lamar Jackson as the best of practice.

704
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: So Miles Boygan is is making strike is in his development,

705
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: as are all the wide receivers with these and youth coaches.

706
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: And I'm just I'm not ready to say, you know,

707
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: time to turn the page on Miles breaking. But if

708
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: he's in a number scrunch, he's in a number scrunch,

709
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't know where he fits in that. Yeah,

710
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: is this a year where the Ravens seven, Well, it's

711
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: hard to keep, you know, hard to keep seven receivers,

712
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: two fullbacks, three tight ends and three quarterbacks like you

713
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: gotta make cuts somewhere two quarterbacks and were already talked

714
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: about Ben Mason. But yeah, yeah, I would be a

715
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: little surprised if they keep seven. But they got a lot. Yeah,

716
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Speaker 1: especially if if Duburne ends up being the return you know,

717
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: if Dubern ends up being the return in the pirst. Dad,

718
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be got a team. That's just that's

719
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: the facts. Um dun ends up winning the jobs like

720
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: they like he was doing at the end of last season.

721
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: They're just gonna part ways, Prochet sure, Um all right.

722
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: On the defensive side, I don't think there's a ton

723
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: of like super interesting competitions. The defense is pretty well

724
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: set it. As John Harball said, everybody's you know, how

725
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: big a slice of the pie you get? What role?

726
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: What package are you in for those like linebackers in particular, right,

727
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: so secondary though, figuring out those last couple cornerback spots

728
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: I think will be intriguing. Marlon haun Frey, Marcus Peters,

729
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith obviously on the team was back. Well, yeah,

730
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: Tavan's back and practice. Let's just assume that Tavon continues

731
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: to progress and he's ready to go, he'll be on

732
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: the team. Anthony Favorite, I think you got you got

733
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: Shawn Way at a fifth round pick. You've got Cleil

734
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: Dorsey who played some last year and made some plays

735
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 1: in minicamp practice, So I think it's been good. Vante Harris,

736
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: who they resigned to a one year deal, who was

737
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: also good. We also had a good practice on Wednesday.

738
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Speaker 1: He had a good practice on Wednesday. Another so, so,

739
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: so they're gonna keep seven receivers, three tight ends, two fullbacks,

740
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks and what ten corners? Yeah, I mean and

741
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: and I'll throw on another name, Chris Chris Westrey, six

742
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: ft four corner out of Kentucky got a pick. He

743
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: was one of the guys I think he picked off Huntley. Um,

744
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: he's looked good. I mean, tall, lanky, long guy. Uh

745
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: so they have a lot and Brandon Stevens. We didn't mention.

746
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: We didn't mention. I mean, well, to me, he's a safety.

747
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: He's playing safety. But sure, yeah, I mean he's he's

748
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: I put him in his putting him in the safety group,

749
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: all right. I mean he's making the team obviously, yes

750
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: he's gonna be on the team. Sun pick, but he's

751
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: he's making the team. Is the safety in my calculation

752
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: the U. So yeah, I mean I think it's really interesting.

753
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: I mean I probably give I probably give the nods

754
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: of Davante Harris. He's a really good gunner, um a

755
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: little more experienced and he's playing well you know, so

756
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: um Khalil Dorsey is more to me, like, if Tavan

757
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: weren't ready to be the nickel, then you probably keep

758
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: him Khalil on the team. Um, you know, if if

759
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: Tavon weren't ready to go. But I expect that Tavon

760
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: will be. Shawn Wade though, is also the other guy

761
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: who you look at and you say, well, you know,

762
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: he excelled in the slot at Ohio State. You invested

763
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: a fifth round picking him. Obviously they're not gonna let

764
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: him go, you know, So he's got to be on

765
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: the roster and some former fashion Um, so they have

766
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: they have a crunch at corner. That is absolutely for sure.

767
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm in Marshall, a former fourth round pick at the USC,

768
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: hasn't taken the field. He's still recovering from injury. So

769
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: once he gets back on that adds another person, right,

770
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: And I think, to me, I think Marshall's got an

771
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: uphill climb because he hasn't played in two years because

772
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: of injuries and had no idea what kind of condition

773
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: he's in. It's been a while, must have been you know,

774
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: the fact that he's not out there means that it's

775
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: it's a tough injury to come back from. So no

776
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: idea how that's going. Um, but he'll have an uphill

777
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: battle once he is on the field. So look, I

778
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: mean there's we didn't want to. We wanted to kind

779
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: of set the stage the last the last thing I'll

780
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: ask you, because all of this is just sort of

781
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: setting the stage of training camp, giving listeners sort of

782
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: a perspective of what the key battles are going to

783
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: be once we get to that point. Do you expect

784
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: the Ravens to add a veteran player between now and

785
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: the start of camp? I mean, justin Houston is the

786
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: one that we get asked probably five times about in

787
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: Ravens mailbag every single week. Um, what do you think

788
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: you do? Okay? So all right, yeah, I think they

789
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: got one more in him. I still think I I

790
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: for as much as the pass rushes. You know, what

791
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: was it that Winks said, the overblown stat or whatever

792
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: it was that he said, sacks are are totally superficial. Um,

793
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: I think that the Ravens would definitely be benefited from

794
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: somebody else they can get after quarterbacks, even if it's

795
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: not sacks, if it's pressures or whatnot. Um, So I

796
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: think they got another move in. I can see that

797
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it wouldn't It wouldn't surprise me. Um And

798
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: you just add if you add you know, jesuse Houston

799
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 1: as an example, like they don't have I mean Tias

800
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 1: Bowser's then Pernell. I guess they do have a veteran

801
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: there in that grew up in Pernell. But you could

802
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: add somebody that can get out to the quarterback. It's

803
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: like the old thing Ozzy always says, you never have

804
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: too many guys that can get after the quarter But

805
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: it's a hired gun while adaf A o A continues

806
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: to mature as a player and always going to have

807
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: definitely a role. But you know, as we've all talked out,

808
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: it's it's a progression with him a little bit. So

809
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: this is to me, the Ravens, it would be nice

810
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: to get a one year hired gun who ADOPI could

811
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: learn a little bit from and who can immediately you know,

812
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: he can step in and give you some sacks and pressure.

813
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, if the Ravens don't make that,

814
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: that they don't bring in a pass rusher, I think

815
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: that that that's an indication right there of what they

816
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: think of what they've seen from a like if that

817
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. It's like, okay, Wow, he must have really impressed,

818
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: because you need somebody to give pronomic feast some snaps

819
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: off pernomic fee. I love prol but he cannot be

820
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: on the field for the snaps. Yeah. Yeah, he's a

821
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the snaps or so around that number,

822
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: I would think at this point of his career. Yep. Um,

823
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: all right, well, we're gonna be talking about all of

824
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: this over the course of the next month. UM. We're

825
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: also gonna we we're working on some guests that we

826
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: want to bring to you as well, UM, to give

827
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: you some kind of interesting perspective during this time of

828
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: the season where uh, basically what happens now, Just to

829
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: give you a little behind the scenes, I'm here in

830
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: the building right now. It's kind of a mad dash

831
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: of the parking lot players today. They were in meetings,

832
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: they did their conditioning test, and then it was they

833
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: were screaming out of here to the airport, probably for

834
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: flights at you know, two hours after meetings ended. Uh,

835
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: to go wherever that you know, on vacation, go back home.

836
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: And this is there. This is their downtime. Um, this

837
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: is the downtime for everyone on the football side before

838
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: training camp starts up. So um, that's that's you know,

839
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: that's what the time of the years for. So we

840
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: will still have a podcast next week. They're like, will

841
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 1: continue to do the podcast over the course of this time,

842
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: set the table for training camp and uh, like Ryan

843
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, send us those emails, so we got plenty

844
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: to discuss