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Speaker 1: to talk about you can final o T a organized

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Speaker 1: team activity for the Giants during their spring workouts. You

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Speaker 1: will have four days off Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and

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Speaker 1: then the team returns next Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday for

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Speaker 1: mandatory minicamp, and we will see how the Giants wrap

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Speaker 1: up their spring workouts. Jeff, it goes real fast. I

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Speaker 1: feel like it goes only a couple weeks ago when

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Speaker 1: the guys showed up for the first time, and now

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be over in a week. So these things

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Speaker 1: really kind of go a little bit quick. I've been

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Speaker 1: to over. I think it's I think it's more talking

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Speaker 1: to me than you. That's okay, You're posted me slide

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Speaker 1: back over a little bit. You're making me a little dicey.

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Speaker 1: There we go. Thank you, um well in the process

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Speaker 1: there for I didn't I didn't get your question. How's

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Speaker 1: it been going? No, all right, I'm doing fine, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That's great. My question if you his boy, doesn't it

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Speaker 1: go fast? It always goes fast. And I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: who it really goes fast for, as the rookies, because

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Speaker 1: you know, the veterangy kind of been there before, you

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Speaker 1: kind of understand the process. But the rookies it's just

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Speaker 1: still a blur for them that god here. Even the

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Speaker 1: guys that got drafted in the free agents especially, they

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Speaker 1: get in here, they're like, Wow, there's Eli Manning, there's

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Speaker 1: Olivia Verne, and they're kind of enamored with the whole process.

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Speaker 1: They're on the field the next thing you know, now

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Speaker 1: they're over and they have a mandatory minicamp coming up, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, is you know, is a veteran mini camps.

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Speaker 1: So that's when the younger guys aren't going to get

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of stuff to do. That's when the

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Speaker 1: veterans get get there a little pre warm up before

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Speaker 1: head off into the sunset and those those those coveted

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Speaker 1: five weeks of what are you gonna do now? Actually six? Right?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it seems to me it's getting longer

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Speaker 1: and longer every year. But that's the kind of the

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Speaker 1: time when you hope that all of the I never

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Speaker 1: really understood it because that's a long time. I can

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Speaker 1: understand maybe two or three weeks, but five to six

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Speaker 1: weeks because I remember when we used when I used

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Speaker 1: to leave, there were you had to get out of bed,

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Speaker 1: go work out, do all of the things. Not everybody

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Speaker 1: is is committed and devoted. As as as you think

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of guys are gonna be the fat

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Speaker 1: guys I'm talking about John going to name some names,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, most of them are big. Let

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Speaker 1: me ask him if there was anybody You're probably not

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Speaker 1: gonna answer this. Anybody from any of the teams you

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Speaker 1: played with that you remember, um which is always position specific,

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Speaker 1: just in general that you knew when they left in

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Speaker 1: the spring and came back into somewhere they want to

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Speaker 1: come back and they're gonna be out of shape. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're this is going to You're gonna be amazing when

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Speaker 1: I say this. The linebackers I found heavy, and I

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Speaker 1: think it would be like the d lineman of something

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Speaker 1: like Well, I think that you know that's probably where

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Speaker 1: normally you would think you would go with those guys.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, some of them. You know, they're big guys,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna eat. But for some reason, every year there

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Speaker 1: they're just like, you know, they could just tell they

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Speaker 1: were out of shape. And I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: just that they're gonna play themselves in the shape. You

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Speaker 1: can't do that anymore. That's years ago, back when I

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Speaker 1: and you came into camp and you really kind of

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Speaker 1: played your way and that was expected. So the coaching

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Speaker 1: staff when you got there, they kind of knew that

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Speaker 1: was going to happen. Now, oh my god, you come

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Speaker 1: in here and you're out of shape. That just goes

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Speaker 1: to show you that you're not doing what you're supposed

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Speaker 1: to be doing. Let me see this too. I've been

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Speaker 1: watching every I've seen every snap of O. T S.

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Speaker 1: I've been right there. Well, I'm frankly ready for Pads

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Speaker 1: to go on with him to play real football at

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Speaker 1: this point, and my coaching staff, and that kind of

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Speaker 1: I'm happy you brought that up. I feel like I've

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Speaker 1: are doing without pads on. As a player, At what

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Speaker 1: you haven't seen yet. I agree with that. So let's

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Speaker 1: just fast forward a year from now and now coach

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Speaker 1: Sherman's gone through our first year, and they can become

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Speaker 1: a little bit kind of you know, you get a

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Speaker 1: can do? We have to do another warm up in

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Speaker 1: this and can we just please just start playing football

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Speaker 1: and getting towards this season. But that's when you can't

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Speaker 1: lose focus of why you're here, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 1: even though you do, you can't just go through the

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Speaker 1: retention and and really the whole purpose behind these O

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Speaker 1: camp and now they will reinstall they start from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: And that was even another question. I mean, and just

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Speaker 1: did it. I'm not positive how Sherman's doing it. But

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Speaker 1: based on your experience, you do the full installation of

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Speaker 1: your offensive defense in the spring, right, easy with full

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Speaker 1: but I mean, yeah, I mean a complimentary question. But

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Speaker 1: then they will repeat and do the saving Zack thing

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Speaker 1: so they'll teach it faster since you already sort of correct. Now,

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Speaker 1: don't think they're going to let these players go home

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Speaker 1: with those iPads with the playbooks on that well. I

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Speaker 1: I do know that they're still easily a way that

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Speaker 1: and they'll tell those new guys the same thing. Dude, Listen,

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Speaker 1: you know, because you were here in the off season

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Speaker 1: and that's not your fault, but we're gonna move forward

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Speaker 1: It's all base stuff. And you know they will they

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna see it in training camp. But to

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Speaker 1: but you have to understand what the purposes you're out there.

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Speaker 1: For instance, for me, it was a great way to

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Speaker 1: work on a lot of different situational kicking for me

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Speaker 1: people think they can, but you can't. So it is um,

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Speaker 1: I think there'll be two returners dot to just because

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Speaker 1: Listen to Special teams coaches have the most time on

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Speaker 1: and I think this is one situation where they're going

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Speaker 1: was him. It was He said that he's a lot

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Speaker 1: they're making tackles. So we'll see what happens. But I

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Speaker 1: they were. Last year. Dallas was better than Baltimore, Cincinnati

426
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Speaker 1: and Cleveland. Hell, this year, I think the Giants have

427
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Speaker 1: a better team than the Ravens, Bengals and the Browns.

428
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Speaker 1: So why would you put the a f C North

429
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Speaker 1: fifth that I don't like? Well, let's read what did

430
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Speaker 1: you read? What they said? I don't care what they say.

431
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,439
Speaker 1: I don't need to know what they say. I know

432
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 1: what's on these teams. They not good. Bounce back potential

433
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 1: of Joe Flacco and John Harbor FLA hasn't been good

434
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,719
Speaker 1: for three years and they're telling you what they're right.

435
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm I'm scoffing at it. The Bengals both a roster

436
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 1: without huge weaknesses, a lot of players in their prime.

437
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,640
Speaker 1: The Browns depth chart barely resembles the oh and sixteen

438
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 1: squad from a year ago. Hm, we'll see. I mean,

439
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,160
Speaker 1: how many see over under on the Browns this year? Four?

440
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 1: To give him four or five the I'll put the

441
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Speaker 1: over under at five or five and a half. That's

442
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Speaker 1: what I did that that where I put you overrun

443
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 1: there on the Browns. Would you go over under five

444
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 1: and a half. I'll tell you what I want him

445
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Speaker 1: to win, I really do, okay, because I'd like to

446
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Speaker 1: see John I'd like to see I keep saying John,

447
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna slip slip up on that Johnny Menziel Baker

448
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: Mayfield thing do that Baker Mayfield that I'm not trying

449
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 1: to do it to him and just telling you that's

450
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 1: just gonna happen. I'd like to see him do well

451
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: and I'd like to see the Browns win. I mean,

452
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,439
Speaker 1: I I like, you know, their fans deserve it and um,

453
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 1: and it just would be good. I mean, I think

454
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Speaker 1: if they won six games, that'd be a nice step

455
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Speaker 1: for them. I got from zero to six, and they've

456
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Speaker 1: had a lot of talent. If they won seven, I

457
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked. I would go over five and a

458
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Speaker 1: half for them. To be honest with you, Well, I'm

459
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Speaker 1: just curious to what everybody else says about them. I

460
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: think Baltimore might be a last place team in that

461
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Speaker 1: division this year. About that, take that, well, we'll probably

462
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Speaker 1: we'll do our rankings one still using O t as Ravens.

463
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 1: I know how about that. It's not it's not the

464
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Speaker 1: first time that's after that organization either. By the way,

465
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Speaker 1: you gotta follow the rules, folks. You gotta follow the rules.

466
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Speaker 1: Just in the fact that they got caught for it again,

467
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: ye tells you that they're you know, they have a

468
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: target on their backs. So that means they're flagrantly violating

469
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Speaker 1: the rules. And why here's the giants when you or

470
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: he's laughs at us, all no contact, no contact, guys.

471
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 1: You have to follow the rules or there will be

472
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Speaker 1: penalties period, And I don't know how they get caught,

473
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Speaker 1: whether it's somebody watching the practices that they have to

474
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Speaker 1: send in the practices. Players can also say something to

475
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Speaker 1: the players Association that happens too. Yeah, well, I can

476
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Speaker 1: tell you one thing. If that player ever got identified,

477
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Speaker 1: he wouldn't be on the team anymore. So that book,

478
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Speaker 1: I don't think they do. Yeah calls Jeff all right,

479
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 1: Chris and Brooklyn will lead us off on Big Blue

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Speaker 1: Kick Off Live. Chris, you're on with Hey, guys, how

481
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Speaker 1: are you doing doing well? What's up? Times? It's nice

482
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: to talk to you guys, you too, to talk to you.

483
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Speaker 1: What's up? Um? I wanted to ask. I haven't heard

484
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Speaker 1: much about David's weft. I've heard a little bit about

485
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: kla Letta and um, I just I just wanted to

486
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Speaker 1: get your take on High easton doing He's fine, I mean, um,

487
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: he's still behind. He's not he's not the quarterback Eli

488
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Speaker 1: Manning is yet. Um he has here And I said

489
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Speaker 1: this a couple of weeks ago on Davis Webb. I

490
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: know about is much I am going to know about

491
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Speaker 1: Davis Webb from watching him in in the spring until

492
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Speaker 1: we see him on a field with a pass rush

493
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Speaker 1: coming at him, and he has to make reads, under

494
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: fire and do stuff in games. I'm not gonna know

495
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: about Davis. What. We know. He's a good arm we

496
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 1: know he's a good kid. We know he's smart, we

497
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: know he's a hard worker. I can't learn anything else.

498
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: I'm watching him in practice and we're not gonna know.

499
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: You know, listen, all we do know about him is

500
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Speaker 1: that he's going to be competing for the backup quarterback

501
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: job with Kyle Latta, and I would say I believe

502
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Speaker 1: Webb is a is a good amount ahead of Loletta

503
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: and a good amount behind the line, you know what

504
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Speaker 1: I mean. I think I think he's pretty secure right

505
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Speaker 1: now and being the backup quarterback. Now, that might change

506
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Speaker 1: in the summer, but I think he clearly right now

507
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Speaker 1: is the second best quarterback called the roster. Yeah, I'd

508
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Speaker 1: like to see him. I'd like to see him get

509
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Speaker 1: a lot of reps in the in the preseason and

510
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Speaker 1: he will. Yeah this sounds good. Um. Well, that's really

511
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Speaker 1: all I have for you guys today, Just like talking

512
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Speaker 1: to you. Appreciate it, man, that's what calling up. We

513
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: appreciate it man. A few words and he and you

514
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Speaker 1: know what, I'm not trying to poop pool the guy understand,

515
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: I'm being honest. I know what I know. But the

516
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Speaker 1: stuff I don't know is what makes players good quarterbacks. Well,

517
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Speaker 1: I think what we do know is he's next this

518
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Speaker 1: this preseason, he's gonna get a lot of reps. It'll

519
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Speaker 1: be his second year, so he gets a little bit

520
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: more comfortable and unfortunately had to learn a new system,

521
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Speaker 1: so it almost puts him like back in his first year.

522
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Speaker 1: But just being being aware of being in the NFL,

523
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Speaker 1: how things work, the process, routine, um working with Eli

524
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Speaker 1: for a year. That's got to help him in his

525
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Speaker 1: preparation in his play on the field in these preseason

526
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Speaker 1: games because its the only time you're gonna see him.

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Speaker 1: So I think that the value ation will be a

528
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Speaker 1: big chunk of it during the preseason. Absolutely agree. And

529
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Speaker 1: I think that you know, Kyle is gonna he's on

530
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Speaker 1: the team. They're not going to cut him. And the

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Speaker 1: fact that he's gonna be he's gonna be a guy

532
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Speaker 1: that's going to be inactive every week. You know that's

533
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Speaker 1: just going unless he beats out Davis's Webb to be

534
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Speaker 1: the number two guy with you along for the ride

535
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Speaker 1: to a one four or five on three. Let's go

536
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Speaker 1: back to the phone's pets in stant Island. He's up next. Hi, Pete,

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Speaker 1: Hey Pete, Hey guys, good, how are you? How are you?

538
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Speaker 1: How are you doing? Um? Yeah, I'm doing that, uh

539
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: first of all, but you know what, I just want

540
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: to give a shout out to day Kettleman and his family. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, I wish him all the best as a former,

542
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: as a cancer survivor. Myself. I think that uh, Dave

543
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: is going to uh you know, get through this with

544
00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: blind I hope he does be positive. You know. Um

545
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: and I have spoken. The last time I called in,

546
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: I called it actolutely. John. I spoke to you because

547
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: Jeff wasn't there. I asked about the lobsters and Jeff

548
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: scopping everything. Jeff, did you ever get to that? And

549
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: then I'll get out to my giant. I did get

550
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: the lobsters. They have been cooked, they've been shocked, whatever

551
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 1: you want to call it. At the meeting come out. Um.

552
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: And then meat is in my freezer and we've been

553
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: waiting for a chance to cook them because we are

554
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: going to make lobster rolls. That is the it's on

555
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Speaker 1: the agenda. That's the plan, Lobster. That is it. Okay, okay,

556
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: make sure you use someone stopping with that. It gives

557
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Speaker 1: it a nice uh kick it I'd like to kick. Yeah,

558
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: definitely a getting the football. So I hear a little bit. Um.

559
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Speaker 1: I read a nice article today about Will and Andez

560
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: and uh, you know what kind of a uh you know,

561
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: we had a couple of scuples on the field and whatnot.

562
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: And as a Giant fan, I actually looked that, you know,

563
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Speaker 1: because you think about it, and uh, you know, I'm

564
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Speaker 1: thinking back to Chris Snee. I always thought played with

565
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: an edge, and also um Jumble Elliott, especially when Plus

566
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: Cells got on top of him on the weeks that

567
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: Plurselves is on on him is when he showed that

568
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: street Jumble was always a kind of Timmy's guy, but

569
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: when Bill got on him, he got real nasty, you

570
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: know that following week. You know, Pete, he reminds me

571
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: of go Go, going back to Jeff's time and he

572
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: can speak to this Jeff who was always that start

573
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: of the first fight in every training camp. We're not

574
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: with which team with the Giants, when you were with

575
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: the rich Richie that's what Will Hernandez reminds me of

576
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: different obviously different body types of rookie. Ritchie obviously was

577
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: a veteran here, but he has that type of scrappiness

578
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: that I think is going to annoy people, and I

579
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: think that's what you like. Well, they're very short. Hopefully

580
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: the guys see you off of that, and that's really

581
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: what you want. Well, you do you do to a point, Yeah,

582
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: you do to a point because there you know, you

583
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: don't want these guys getting flags in the game because

584
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: they're a little chippy, but you do want to set

585
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: the tone in practice and I'm I mean business, don't

586
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: cheap shot me, and you know, those kinds of things.

587
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,959
Speaker 1: But that is kind of uh. I think you can

588
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: check that box with Will Hernandez as far as attitude

589
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: and and a little bit of a nastiness. You saw that.

590
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: That's what they saw him do in college, you know,

591
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: just on the field with it. You gotta be you

592
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta be careful with it a little bit,

593
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: you know. Oh yeah, you don't want him being chippy

594
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: and anything like that, but it's it's uh. And I

595
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: did watch college film and I watched him in the

596
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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, and I watched him pancakes everybody and and uh,

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00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of watching the film, you could

598
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Speaker 1: see at an edge about him. John mentioned every every

599
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Speaker 1: book you were watching, you were watching him that day

600
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Speaker 1: at the at the Senior Bowl, and even at the

601
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl in practice, he was riding guys out of

602
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: the play and he and a couple of guys got

603
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: annoyed because they were killing everybody else. And then Will

604
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 1: Hernando started kicking their button. They like started pushing them

605
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: and they were getting annoyed. It happened. I remember I

606
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Speaker 1: told you that story. Yeah, yeah, So you know, to me,

607
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: you kind of like that kind of an edge. And

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Speaker 1: maybe you know I actually wrote something online today and

609
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Speaker 1: I said, Eric Flower's I hope you're watching because this

610
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: is the kind of edge or kind of attitude that

611
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: you want as a line. And the last thing, if

612
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: you guys don't mind, as far as the slock corner,

613
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit concerned only because we got beat up.

614
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the tight ends beat the hell out of

615
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: us last year. We know this. I think we were

616
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: less than the leak with tight end receptions or touchdowns

617
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: or whatever. And that position actually scares me. Um, right now,

618
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Speaker 1: who would be at the slot corner? And uh? And

619
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Speaker 1: which way we're gonna go? Uh? And I'll take it

620
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Speaker 1: off the air. Guys, thank you, appreciate the call back. Guys,

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Speaker 1: have a great day. To Jeff, thank you, always get

622
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: the air from you. It's William Gay. I think right

623
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Speaker 1: now he's the slot guy. Um, he's the guy who's

624
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: gonna line up in the slot as a veteran. UM.

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00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: I think the the competition behind them. I think the

626
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: hell you get from Penn State to five nine is

627
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Speaker 1: going to fight for a spot there. Donte Dion, obviously

628
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: you can fight for a spot there. They're both wonder

629
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Speaker 1: how big is five seven? I think you might be

630
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: listed to five eight, but you might have been wearing

631
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Speaker 1: heels and they took that measurement. I'm not sure. Um,

632
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of there's a lot of guys,

633
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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of guys in the roster here.

634
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: They're trying to find it competition. Yeah, absolutely, I hope

635
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Speaker 1: they do. I hope they do. And you know what

636
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Speaker 1: the biggest thing about that position is the guys need

637
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: to stay healthy. You know, the three, the three you

638
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: have if those guys can stay somewhat healthy and you know,

639
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: and you have some death. But that's that's always been

640
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: the problem here lately. It's just these guys get hurt.

641
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: There's not enough of them. There's not enough of them

642
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: in the whole league. I mean, every team doesn't have

643
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: enough good cornerbacks period um. They don't. They really don't,

644
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: you know. And I think that you know, Pete brings

645
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: up a good, good point as far as that offensive line.

646
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: I mean, if I was to ask you who who

647
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Speaker 1: collectively you thought was the nastiest group group in the

648
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: National Football League from an offensive line standpoint, would you

649
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: happen to I mean, maybe I think the best group

650
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: is Dallas. Are they the nastiest? I mean, I want

651
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: the nastiest guys, Like did you did they have a

652
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: reputation of you know, not only are they good, but

653
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: they're they're a nasty group of guys. Have them anymore? Though?

654
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: I mean you used to have lines like that, like

655
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: back in the day, like from what Eric Williams and

656
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 1: Reggie White using in the fistfights. Was Eric Williams kept

657
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: hit him in the head with his cast I mean

658
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: I remember that Bruce Smith used to head slap people

659
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: all over the place. I mean, oh boy, but I

660
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: I think that you know, if you could get that

661
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: type of reputation, you know, that's a good thing as

662
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: long as you can back it up with good play,

663
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm sure they kind of come hand

664
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: in hand. I'm sure if you ask the defensive lineman,

665
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: he'd be able to tell you can't. I don't. I

666
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: don't have a good answer for And I think that

667
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: maybe the answer is that the game has changed so

668
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: much these days. Is the fact that you know, they're

669
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: not running into the ball as much as they used to,

670
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: and they're not you know, thinking, they're not cutting guys like.

671
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: Let mean, look at the NBA, everyone's hugging a high

672
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: five and before games and stuff, and you know, fifteen,

673
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: you know, twenty years ago, Charles ok and Michael Jordan

674
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: are best friends. Off the court. He literally like throws

675
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: him into the stands on dunk attempts. It's it's different.

676
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: Not that I'm a basketball guy. I know you're a

677
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: different basketball guy. But I'm watching I mean, these guys,

678
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: they might as well move the three point arc back

679
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: my jeff My solution. Kevin Durant was shooting like thirty

680
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: five footers last night my sol And look, I don't

681
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: think the NBA needs fixing. I think it's actually a

682
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: good spot. But I think the game has become too

683
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: uniform and that the only way you could win the

684
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: NBA is by taking a lot of three staffs. You

685
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: have to. And you know, the guys are so much

686
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: bigger and longer now that it's so hard to navigate.

687
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: There's just not a lot of space in there because

688
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: everyone's six five with a seven foot wingspan or six seven,

689
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: and everyone's big and they're tolling, they're long. I really

690
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: think you need to redesign the court. I think you

691
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: need to expand the court by by at least five

692
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: ft it wise, and that will then give you the

693
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: space to back to three point line up you have

694
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: from the end line now you just would be back

695
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: for correct and you move the three point line back

696
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: a couple of feet, especially the baseline three, which is

697
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: even shorter than the top of the key three right now.

698
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: And I think that will bring some diversity back to

699
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: the game, or maybe you can actually have some space

700
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: for some big men to do stuff in the hoop,

701
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: and you know, drive a little bit, driving kick and

702
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: the three point shop becomes more difficult because it's a

703
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: longer shot. That's what I would do certainly. Anyway, even

704
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: if they did longer and make it longer, they still

705
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: would make them sure, but they wouldn't make him at

706
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: a hive of percentage, which I think what you're looking for.

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Speaker 1: All Right, let's go to Mike in Manhantan. He's up

708
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Speaker 1: next time. Mike, it's super excited to be calm. I'm

709
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Speaker 1: I've been listening for a long time. Well, we are

710
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: super excited to talk to a long long time fan.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Mike. Awesome and John, I actually met you

712
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: last year in or two years ago in London before

713
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: the game. That was a lot of fun. I want

714
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: to talk about the defense. I'm just concerned we're all honestly,

715
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: because um I think we're very thin a past pass

716
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: rush and corners and we are always hurt in those

717
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: two areas. And um, I know we drafted a few

718
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: guys that were supposed to help that, but I and

719
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: I know we have on a new front office and everything,

720
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: but third round text have not panned out for us

721
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: in the past. And I want to know you guys

722
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: take because we set these expectations and we get we

723
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: talk about all off season and we get really excited

724
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: about it, as we should. But there is a time

725
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: where you have to get realistic. Mike, You're right, and

726
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: look if to me and I and I've said, and

727
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: if you listen, you know I've been saying since the beginning, Well,

728
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: worries about me? What worries me about this team? I

729
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: should say they're plenty of that war that that worries

730
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: me about me? Um is your defense against the past

731
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: in two ways, your depth in the second there, once

732
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: you get past Genores Jenks and Eli Apple, what you

733
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: got your second safety. But more important than that, Mike

734
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: and you hit it, it's the pass rush. And you're

735
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: gonna see this come up on Factor Fiction on Giants

736
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: dot Com tomorrow with Salm and Lance and I and Jeff.

737
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: I went back, you look at all the players in

738
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: this Giants defense. Olivia Vernon's career high in sacks is

739
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: ten and a half. Okay, then what do you think

740
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: the next highest career sack high is for every other

741
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: defensive player on the roster right now? Oh man, that's

742
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: a good question. I couldn't even tell you. Maybe ten,

743
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: what do you think, No, it's not it's not that high.

744
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: There's no way think about it. Yeah, to become, but

745
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: it's not even somebody in the front seven. It's Landon

746
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: Collins with four. Wow. So business and there goes and

747
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: that's all one year. I looked it up Ogletree, I

748
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: think is max and year was two and a half.

749
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: Kerry Win was like three or something like that. So

750
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, you think last year, Yeah, he won last

751
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: year and one of the sixteen have any last yearmb

752
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: he was hurt. He got hurt way through the year.

753
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: I was talking to t Tito about this on the

754
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: show yesterday and I made the same point. He's like, oh, well,

755
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna scheme into sacks, and I said,

756
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: hold on a second. You can't rely on scheme to

757
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: develop sacks, first of all. And then I went back

758
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like, right, let's see how well James Betcher's

759
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: scheme has developed sacks in the last couple of years. Okay,

760
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: So I looked at last year. How many players on

761
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 1: the Cardinals had more than four sacks last year? Well,

762
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: Jones had like he had eighteen, and there was one

763
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: other player with more than four sacks. Pierre Olsen. Okay,

764
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: I want to know Pierre Olson if he came in

765
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: here and shook my hand. Okay, but that's my he is,

766
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: by the way, But that's my point that the Cardinals

767
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: got their sacks last year. This Chandler Jones was a

768
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: freaking beast and nobody could block the dude. They didn't

769
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: scheme their way into sacks. So, Mike, if you want

770
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: to have worries about this team, and I know everyone's

771
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: all excited about s Kwon bar was the offense. He's

772
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: an explosive, all this stuff and it's gonna help the offense.

773
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: The offensive line is better if you look it. All

774
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: the work the Giants did on this roster this year,

775
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: aside from alec Ogletree, all the work was on the

776
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. In fact, they lost their

777
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: best sad guy from last year, Jason, Pierre Paul, and

778
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: you drafted a couple of guys, but you can't I

779
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I'm happy with the

780
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: j D and use the money for better other people. Mike,

781
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: I agree, but you're gonna feel the pain on it

782
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: this year. It's gonna help you two and three years

783
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: from now. But it's gonna hurt you today, which is fine.

784
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: I still think it was the right move. But they're

785
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna have to figure out how to get

786
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: a little pass rush that there, and God forbid Vernon

787
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: gets hurt or Jenkins or Eli Apple gets hurt, or

788
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: Landon Collins goes down again. You are going to be

789
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: scrambled apartment. Where the chances of the Giants drafting number

790
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: one pick next year as a defensive one, I think,

791
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: And by the way, and I know what's ridiculous as

792
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: really and and Mike, thanks for the calling nights for

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00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: calling and I think you made appreciate it. Um. Next

794
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: year's draft is very lyne heavy on both sides of

795
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: the ball. I think I looked at one of the

796
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: way too early two thousand nineteen, like top thirties mock drafts,

797
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: and I think more than half the players in the

798
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: first round with defensive oneman. Well listen to the Giants

799
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: could get another good lineman defensively and offensively. And you

800
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: know they've got them a little drafts of defense they've

801
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: got to keep. They need a pass rusher, it's not

802
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 1: even a tackle they need. Is very interesting they exercise

803
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: that you just did there. And they have plenty of

804
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: pass rushers. I mean they have plenty of run stoppers. Now,

805
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: they got b J. Hill, they got Dalvin Thomas, and

806
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: they got Snacks Harrison. They're good stopping the run, all right.

807
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: They need to get another edgy guy, they really do.

808
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I mean, Landon Collins has this

809
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: after Vernon. Landon Collins has the best all time sackie

810
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: or of anybody else in this Giants defense with four

811
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: and that was two years ago. That should freak you

812
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: out a little bit. You know. I see James Betcher

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00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: once it will I'm gonna ask him, wait, do you Okay,

814
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: go ahead, I just leaw that headline, but you answer

815
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: your question first, and then I'm gonna get mad about that. No,

816
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: I won't. Yeah, I just brought this because I'm like, really, okay, really,

817
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: what I'm just saying. I see him quite often and

818
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: I think that I'm gonna bring us up next time.

819
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask him, you know, how how is this

820
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: defense going to get to the quarterback? Um? When you

821
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: have one defensive lineman that has career high tenant have snacks,

822
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: the next guy on your roster comes from the safety

823
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: position and has four Just curious. He'll tell me, and

824
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: he might come I hope he doesn't come back with

825
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: we're gonna scheme for sacks. Well, that would be That's

826
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: what Paul said to me. He said, we're gonna scheme

827
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: for it. Do what happens to teams at the scheme

828
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: for sacks? Well, let me ask you a questions. They don't.

829
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: The answer is it's a true answer because you don't

830
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 1: have any other pass rushers to scheme for. You hope

831
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: that Kaream Martin will blossom into a guy that can

832
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: help you. I think relying on Lorenzo Carter this or

833
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: in his career, a guy who we talked about being

834
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: kind of a raw athlete and having to figure things out.

835
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: Asking him to do a lot in his first year,

836
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Speaker 1: I think is asking a lot. Maybe he could do it.

837
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Speaker 1: It would be great if he could, but I don't

838
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: think you count on it. Alcobo Tree is a blitz

839
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: are great, But it's no, it's uh, it's it's I

840
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: think that. By the way, Jeff, I'm gonna throw this

841
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: out there too. You're facing Dak Prescott, You're facing Carson Wentz,

842
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: You're facing Drew Brees. You're facing Matt Ryan, you're facing

843
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota, you're facing Jimmy Garoppolo. I mean these are

844
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: not maybe you're facing Andrew Luck. You know, these are

845
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: guys that you know you don't want to Just let's

846
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: sit back there and survey defense. Well, look what happened

847
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: last year. They ain't got no pressure on the quarterback

848
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: last year either, and they lost their best that guy

849
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: from last year. That's all right, let's go to Stephen

850
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: New York. He's up next. Hie, Steve, how are you?

851
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: I'll get that's not Steve. So I have a I

852
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: have a statement, I have a request, and then I

853
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: have like a question, real question, sure, go ahead. Statement.

854
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: So so my question estatement would be a let's let's

855
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: go with this one. My request would be so sometimes

856
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: when I listen to the podcast later on if I

857
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: don't get a chance to listen to it during to day,

858
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: or I listen to player interviews, and I'm not sure

859
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: since you guys on your reporter, you might be able

860
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: to help us. I can't hear the question that the

861
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: reporters are asking the coaches and the players. Yeah, it's

862
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: it's very hard what we do. We actually do bring

863
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: out a separate boom mike and we try to boom

864
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: the questions, but the way the reporters are spread out

865
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: around the guy that's answering the questions, it's impossible to

866
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: get a microphone right in front of the questions. We

867
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: do our best. I understand it's frustrating for me if

868
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: I can't be at a press conference and I can

869
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: listen to it, it's frustrating for me to we do

870
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: our best. Unfortunately, it's it's really something that it's impossible

871
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: to fix and find the great solution for even even

872
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: in the post game, a lot of times we cannot

873
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: hear the questions that are at being asked the coach,

874
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,479
Speaker 1: either are the players. Because I want have to figure

875
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: it out. We will. We will effort to do better, Steve,

876
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: But I can make no promises. Well, no, I just

877
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: figured I didn't know if you guys knew that it

878
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: was an issue. What it sounds like you do, we do.

879
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: Don't trust me. We we've literally been trying to figure

880
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: out a good solution to that for about five years

881
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: and it's a struggle. So that's fine anyway. So so

882
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: I was thinking too about you know, everyone's on Eric

883
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: Flowers and you know they're giving him a rough time, Okay,

884
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: And I get it. He deserves it. And in this league,

885
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: you get what you deserve. So that he hasn't played well,

886
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: he gets a lot of a lot of flash. But

887
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: I like, you know, I looked back at like Michael

888
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: Strahey and and Tikey Barberry and and those guys in

889
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: the beginning of their careers, they weren't really much. They

890
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: it took a long time for them to develop into

891
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: the players we know them to be. Like String and

892
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: when he first started playing, if I'm not mistaken, its

893
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: first five years for mediocre at best, and and shame

894
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: with Tiki if he still was mediocre back you know,

895
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: a two or three down back at most. See now,

896
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: I will say this the one deep the one difference

897
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: with Tiki and straight hand, I'm not gonna put in

898
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 1: that same boat. And you're right. Strand's first four years

899
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: in the league he only had the average about five

900
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: sacks a year, So you're right he did start slowly.

901
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: Remember though, he was also a second round pick from

902
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: a very small school. Tiki was different because he didn't

903
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: have the opportunity. Is not like Tiki was getting you know,

904
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: two d carries and was averaging three yards per carry.

905
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 1: He just wasn't given the opportunity to be the every

906
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: down back. So I'll kind of push him aside straight hand.

907
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: I'll buy the difference with Flowers is that he's been

908
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: not handed the starting job, but he's had the starting

909
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: job and he's been out there, and I think the

910
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: fair criticism you can have of him is that he

911
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: has not improved at the rate you would like to

912
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: see him improve at over his first three years, and

913
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: the same issues he's had in year one with his

914
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: tech nique and and maybe they're not as bad as

915
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: it was then, it's the same type of issues that

916
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: he's having now. Yeah, I could see that point. You know.

917
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: It's just tough because I feel like these kids are

918
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: coming out of college a lot earlier. They're not finishing

919
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: their college careers, you know, and they're coming in earlier,

920
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: and they just take longer to develop. They don't have

921
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: real spring practices, they don't have i mean summer practices.

922
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: They're not doing like real two days, you know. So

923
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: they're coming out and they're not getting those rents they

924
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: need to develop the skills and I just feel like

925
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: I feel like, since he does have all the skill

926
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: set and attributes of a good left tackle, I liked

927
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: him it right though. You know, I feel like two

928
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: or three years from now, if we got rid of them,

929
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: I feel like he'd be killing it for another team.

930
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just feel like he would.

931
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: And that's why when fans call up and say give

932
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: up on Eric Flowers this year and cut him, we say, no,

933
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: that's stupid, because he still has the most innate talent

934
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: of any tackles on the Roster's not making a lot

935
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: of money, so you give the chance this year, you

936
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: see what progress he makes. He's going to be a

937
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: free agent next summer. Then you make your decision, and

938
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: you do it based on his work ethic, how much

939
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: he's improved this year, and you see where he's at.

940
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: Is there a chance in three years he turns into

941
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: a better player. Sure, the Giants will determine the next

942
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: offseason how likely that is, and that will determine their

943
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: course of action. I gotta believe, though. You know, you

944
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: can't change the zebra stripes. If you're after four years,

945
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: you can't play, You're not gonna play, And so and

946
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: I think teams will realize that they're not. Certainly, if

947
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: he has a down yere this year, nobody's gonna pay him.

948
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: He might have another he definitely get another job, get

949
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: a job, but he's not going to get paid the

950
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: money he wants. He might move in the guard for

951
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: all we know. Who knows, but I will tell you this.

952
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: I know that for a fact that when you're coming

953
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: was your player. I've seen it and I've done it.

954
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: And when it's your contract year, you've seem to play

955
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: pretty well. And we'll see what happens with Eric when

956
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: he does that anything else Steveh. Yeah, And the last

957
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: thing I want to say before I go is, uh,

958
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, as a fan, I hear about gentleman. I

959
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: haven't been able to listen to the last couple of days,

960
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: and I wasn't sure how much he got covered. But

961
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, I just to say my prayers go out

962
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: to him and his family, and uh, you know he's

963
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: a tough SLP, so I know, so be all right.

964
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: But um, you know, I was thinking about the players

965
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: in the organization and you know, the people he's brought in,

966
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: an impact he's already had in a small time as

967
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: being at GM, and you know, I hope the players

968
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: and the coaches can use us as a rally cry

969
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: and kind of get up behind him and give them

970
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: something to fight for. I was watching um some NFL

971
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: network stuff, a Player's Life or something like that, and

972
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: I'm good who said it was either Barry Sanders or somebody,

973
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: but he's He made a quote and it kind of

974
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: reminded me of this situation. He said, it's great as

975
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: a talent as you have, and as good as you are,

976
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: you're only as good as something that's outside of you

977
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: pushing you. You can have all the talent in the world,

978
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: but it's something outside isn't driving you. You're not gonna

979
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: maximize your potential. And I think it's Marshall false insteady

980
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: and it's kind of I kind of feel like that

981
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: if you put that in the chiefs perspective, as great

982
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: as the talent as we have on this team, if

983
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: we can rally behind this and hold together for Dave

984
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: and have that as a rally probably too, it's outside

985
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: of us, and it's bigger than us to make you

986
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: give us something like sure, thank you to appreciate it,

987
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 1: and I will tell you that you know, every most

988
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: every player, I'm not gonna say every single one, but

989
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: darn near close to all of them have some some

990
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: sort of an internal motivator. They didn't get drafted high enough,

991
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: their their mother passed away at a young age, and

992
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: what's something, you know, whatever it is drives these players

993
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: would be as good as they can. Even something as

994
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: simple as like fear of failure, you know, just just whatever,

995
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: that's not even not so simple. That's a huge fear.

996
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: That was my fear. My fear of failure, my fear

997
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: of getting cut, my fear of being embarrassed in, my

998
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: fear of losing my job, kept me going. That's why

999
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: I played twenty two seasons. I just kept going. I

1000
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: decided I just wanted to, you know. And so there's

1001
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: not everybody has it. They something. Some people just fade away,

1002
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: like when we do you know, did did you play

1003
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: with Jeff Eagles? Which will play it later, which, by

1004
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: the way, so you see some of the guys in there.

1005
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was on the roster for six games

1006
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: in that's it. I mean not to say he didn't

1007
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: have a motivation, but you know, you gotta have motivation,

1008
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: but you also got to have skills and why my

1009
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: point where there are flowers is that is the motivation there.

1010
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: We understand that the skill could be there, put them

1011
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: both together, get yourself the next nice contract next year,

1012
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: and the talent are there. Whether or not he can

1013
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: translate that into football skill and effectiveness is something we

1014
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: have to see. We have to see it now. Again,

1015
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: He's going to the right we know he's going on

1016
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: the right side. Maybe it's a better fit for him,

1017
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: he's not. I'm hoping that it is. I'm hoping that

1018
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: it is. And you know what, Dave um, you know,

1019
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: and John's you know, my my mom, she went through

1020
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: this stuff. I mean, I'm telling you it's horrible. But

1021
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, Dave is the kind of guy that you know,

1022
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: you can fight through this. He's got the best doctors,

1023
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: he's got the great support systems behind an organization. And

1024
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: for for people that are going through this type of cancer,

1025
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: any type of cancer, the sports system is important. And

1026
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: whether it's your family or your friends, your organization, and

1027
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: Dave has that and and hopefully he'll get better quickly

1028
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: and get through this stuff because it's nasty, it's it's

1029
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: it's horrible, and uh, you know, he'll but the support system,

1030
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: and we appreciate all the callers they're calling in here.

1031
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure Dave does. Um. Dave watches the show every day.

1032
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: Hi Dave, but we want to make yeah, yeah, he

1033
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: probably doesn't appreciate John and I playing GM everyone right,

1034
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: all right, we got three more calls. Let's get him

1035
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: in before we play did you know does did you

1036
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: play with? Jeff Eagles? And that's Sam and Virginia. He's

1037
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,479
Speaker 1: up next. Hi Sam, Hi Sammy? Sam going once? Sam

1038
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,479
Speaker 1: going twice. All right, we'll take two more calls before

1039
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: we play did you play out here? Mad in Manhattan?

1040
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: He joins us. Next time, Matt, Hey, guys, how's it going?

1041
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: What's up? Matt? All right? Quick question for you first, Like,

1042
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: I just gotta say, Jeff my man, thanks so much

1043
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: for everything you've done after no offense, after suffering through

1044
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: brad Wing the last couple of years. I always appreciate

1045
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: you when you were playing, but I don't know if

1046
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: you even more now. He's got to say, thank my

1047
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: my question. That'll get into my question. So, John, I

1048
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: heard what you said earlier about Davis Webb, and I

1049
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: totally agree, right. I mean, you know, I've seen rave

1050
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: reviews about him. But I agree, we're not going to

1051
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: learn anything until probably the preseason games when we actually

1052
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: see him in action making adjustments man and man. And

1053
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: the other thing too, is that I don't know if

1054
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: he's like making the right reads, like only the coaches

1055
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: know that from meeting. So I I just I would

1056
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: I wish I could tell you. I just don't know. No,

1057
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: I like that. I totally agree with all of that.

1058
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: But my question right now, this is my point I

1059
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: want to make, right, is you know, I've been thinking

1060
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: a lot about quarterbacks taking in the third round or later.

1061
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: Right in the past, guys like Guy's coming to mind,

1062
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 1: like Ryan Nassi, Garrett Grayson with the Saints, UM Josh

1063
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: Stobbs last year, right, and I I cannot remember every

1064
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: hearing teammates talk about those guys and those guys making news,

1065
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: you know news and you know, making headlines or whatever

1066
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: the way Davis Webb has made headlines. I mean, DRC

1067
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: raved about him last season, Landon Collins raved about him

1068
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: last season, is still raving about him. Recently said to

1069
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: the media that he's got Davis has like the strongest,

1070
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: the best army he's ever seen. So I don't know.

1071
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure on that because you know it's I just

1072
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: I've never heard teammates talk about a quarterback taken this

1073
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: late in the draft away people are talking about. Man,

1074
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I think you don't hear it. Maybe

1075
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: because you're not following those other teams as closely. Now,

1076
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: maybe they are. Maybe they're not because I'm not following

1077
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: those teams as closely as you are either. Um. But

1078
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: here's the thing about Davis Webb, and if you just

1079
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: watch him, his physical tools are phenomenal. He does have

1080
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 1: an excellent army's the perfect size, he can move around

1081
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 1: pretty good. You know, he's here late. You know most football.

1082
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: He's a good dude. So if you if let me

1083
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: put this way, if I brought somebody into practice that

1084
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: didn't know anything about football, and I told him to

1085
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: watch Davis Webb play football and watch Eli Manning play football,

1086
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: and they didn't know anything about football, they might think

1087
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: David Webb is a better quarterback than Eli Manning because

1088
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: he's a little bit bigger, he has a little bit

1089
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: of a better arm, but those a better spiral. Yeah, exactly.

1090
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: So I think that's why a lot of people get

1091
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: wowed by it. But like both of us said, it's

1092
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 1: the nuance of the position that we need to figure

1093
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: out if he's good at those things. Because I used

1094
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 1: to talk to somebody that watched Brandon. We didn't practice,

1095
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: he said, Brandon, we didn't look like the best quarterback

1096
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: in football. He had a cannon, he threw a tight spiral.

1097
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: He was six five, he was two hundred thirty pounds.

1098
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: He was the quarterback. Just look at him, he looks great.

1099
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: You put it on a football game you couldn't play,

1100
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: so we got to see it exactly. Yeah, No, I

1101
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: I totally agree. I mean, I guess so do you

1102
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: guys expect us? I mean, we're gonna have to carry

1103
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,479
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks on the active roster throughout the entire season,

1104
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: right like, there's no way n gonna be on the

1105
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: practice No, no, no, no, no, no fourth round draft pick.

1106
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: He will be on the roster. He would get claimed

1107
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,720
Speaker 1: so fast that there would be a line of fifteen

1108
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: teams ready to claim it. If you try to sneak

1109
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: active every week. Yes, and probably that's knock on. Would

1110
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: hopefully he will be. If he's not, we got problems.

1111
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: History tells us. Yeah, that's probably what's going to happen?

1112
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: So all right, and I'll leave you guys with this,

1113
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: And he can't give me a cop out answer. You

1114
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: gotta give me yesterday. Right. Do you guys believe in

1115
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: your opinion that the next quarterback after the Eli is

1116
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: currently on the roster or do you think we're gonna

1117
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 1: end up having a draft or sign someone down the road?

1118
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: When is Eli's career going to be over? Can you

1119
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: answer that question for me? I I to be honest,

1120
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: I love the same thing, right. I love Eli. I'm

1121
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: forever indebted to that guy. I mean, I met him

1122
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: a you know, a couple of months back in an

1123
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: event he did at the NFL Experience, and I shook

1124
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: his hand and told him, dude, you're my hero. For

1125
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: everything you've done, You've given me some of the best

1126
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: memories I've ever had in my life. So hey, I

1127
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: love Eli. That being said, you know, I'm excited to

1128
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: see in Sumer system. I truly do think he's gonna

1129
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: have a better year This year. His play has been

1130
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: on the decline. I don't think that's any secret, you know,

1131
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: And I can be honest, I cannot see him playing

1132
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: more than two more years here. Here here's my answer

1133
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: for you then, and hopefully this is good enough. When

1134
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: Eli Manning retires, the next Giant quarterback to start a

1135
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: game for the Giants is on the roster. Whether or

1136
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: not that player will then be the quarterback for the

1137
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: next eight years. I can't say yes or no to that.

1138
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: I will agree with that because I think two guys

1139
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: that are on the roster right now that are learning

1140
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: the system that is in place, will be better off

1141
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: once did Eli is gone, whether it's retirement or they

1142
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: cut him, whatever it is, they'll be ahead of anybody

1143
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: that comes in here, unless they're going to go after

1144
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: a high price free agent, which is not gonna happen

1145
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: in the near future like Kirk Cousins or anything like that. Okay,

1146
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: so I think that, Yes, I think there he is

1147
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: on the on the roster. Whether he stays on it

1148
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: will be up to him. I think. I think that's

1149
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: a good way to put it. I mean, it's good

1150
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: way to put it. I'm with you, with you, Jeff,

1151
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm with him, with them, with you. Edit, Virginia, let's

1152
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: go to him next, Ed, what's up? Good minds? Think alike?

1153
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: Had okay um, A couple of questions, and uh, there

1154
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: was so much hype fun now Lorenzo Carter when he

1155
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: was drafted, that was how how he's doing. He looks

1156
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: like a great athlete, and he looks like a great

1157
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: athlete he runs, he looks like you look at Lorenzo

1158
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: car do you think edge rusher. He reminds me a

1159
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: little bit of of of Chandler Jones frankly in the

1160
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: way he's built. Um. But without the pads on, without contact,

1161
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: I can't really tell you how far along he is.

1162
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: Once I get into training camp in August and guys

1163
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: are wearing pads and you're you know what I want

1164
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: to say. I want to see the first old line

1165
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 1: D line pass rusher one on ones in pads and

1166
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: see how Carter's athleticism translate to winning those one on

1167
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: one matches, because you know, when you run those one

1168
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: on ones, Jeff, it's the advantage to the defense. And

1169
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: if Carter can't win in those situations that I'm gonna

1170
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: be worried. If he does, I'm gonna be optimists. Remember

1171
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: he's a rookie. Remember he's going to be going up

1172
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: against veteran defensive lineman or offensive lineman, and I want

1173
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: to evaluate him how he goes up against those guys

1174
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: rather than the guys that just came here. But this way,

1175
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: I will throw Nate Solder out of the next Yes,

1176
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: I want to see how he does against everybody not named.

1177
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: I actually would like to see and what he does

1178
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: against Flowers. No, me too, I would like to see

1179
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: that also. I'm with you. But to answer your question,

1180
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: I think everybody's excited about him. You're gonna see a

1181
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: lot of him on special teams, and I think he'd

1182
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: be a very good special teams player in his first year,

1183
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: and I think he'll be a situational pass rusher. Questions

1184
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: a lot. He's got a lot to learn, a lot

1185
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: of these guys have a lot to learn, Okay, unless

1186
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: you're that one or two that did get drafted. So

1187
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 1: most of those guys are going to be on special

1188
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: team and it's a learning process. Look at b J Goodson, Okay,

1189
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: you know, I mean he's now moved into the starting

1190
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: but position, and you know, the first couple of years

1191
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: he didn't play much other than special teams. So all right,

1192
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: thank you Verry again. On the defensive line there, rookie

1193
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: O my fami the tackle, Yeah, he hasn't. He hasn't

1194
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: he hasn't practiced yet because of that health condition he's got. Okay,

1195
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: uh is that progressing I mean? Or just something that

1196
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: basically my my sideline him for the whole year. No, no, No,

1197
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: that the the under my understanding of the situation. I

1198
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: think Pat Charmer said this um earlier, is that he

1199
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: should be ready to go by training camp. Okay, thank

1200
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: you appreciate it. Let's go to No. One Long Island.

1201
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna wrap us up our final call and no,

1202
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: what's up? Hey? How's it going? Guys? How are you buddy? Um?

1203
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: All right? So I want to just touch upon the

1204
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: Eric Flowers discussion. I want to I want to ask

1205
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: what do you guys think about Nate Soldier's impact on

1206
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: Eric Flowers in the development of him, Because personally, I

1207
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: think that one of the most crucial things to the

1208
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: Giant success this season is going to be the right

1209
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: side of that line. And I just think Eric Flowers

1210
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: never had a presence like Nate Soldier, and maybe maybe

1211
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 1: he can really help him develop as a player book

1212
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: both his character and his actual play. No, here's it.

1213
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: Can't hurt, certainly can't hurt. I think, for if I'm

1214
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: Eric Flowers, I'm going to listen to a guy that's

1215
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: been to as many Super Bowls and was the left

1216
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,479
Speaker 1: tackle for one of the greatest players in the history

1217
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: of the game. But here's the thing I've heard. Oh

1218
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna put Justin Pugh next to our Flowers.

1219
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: That's gonna help him. Oh he's gonna change offensive line coaches.

1220
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: That's gonna help our Flowers. This thing's gonna help. But

1221
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: do you know who's gonna help our Flowers? Eric Flowers

1222
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: is gonna help Eric Flowers. So yeah, soldier can't hurt.

1223
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be up to the player. If Eric

1224
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: Flowers decides that he's gonna figure out his technique issues

1225
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: and get that fixed, he's gonna be a good player.

1226
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: If Nate Solder helps him do it, that's great. But

1227
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: Flowers is the guy that has to do it right.

1228
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: And I think I totally agree with that that sentiment.

1229
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: I also think that we kind of I think can

1230
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: see that a little bit in him already. Um, if

1231
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: you know if he changed his agent through I believe

1232
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: it was it was his dad he changed his agent.

1233
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: He stopped to hold out. I think you know, it

1234
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: was very scour I think it's first about shoulder, but

1235
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: I think maybe there's a mental changing and that's kind

1236
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: of coming around being like, you know, I really gotta

1237
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: let the rubbers hit the road and put my money

1238
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: where in my mouth this year. So I hope you're right.

1239
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: He's on his contract here, so if he wants to

1240
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: continue to play in this in the league and make

1241
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: some good money, he's gonna have to play better this year. Yeah, yeah,

1242
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,479
Speaker 1: thank you appreciate the call of my friend. Good stuff,

1243
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: and we'll see. That's why we want to give him

1244
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: one more chance. We gotta give him. This is it,

1245
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: This is here, this is a shot. If he wants

1246
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: to stick with the New York Football Giants, it's time

1247
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: for everyone's favorite game. Like that, did he play with

1248
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: Jeff Eagles? I don't have a great memory. Two NFL seasons,

1249
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: hundreds of players. She goes with the Eagles. Let's see

1250
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: who Jeff remembers. You can make a mockery of my memory.

1251
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: Here's your host. That was just so spell now, just

1252
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: so you folks understand why I make fun of Jeff Eagles.

1253
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: I walked in here on Monday and sitting here on

1254
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: the table. Is this pair of glasses right here? And

1255
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: walta Tino says John, Jeff forgot these. Now, if you

1256
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: go around the building and you ask people in the

1257
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: video department, what will they tell you about Jeff beings?

1258
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: The dude forgets stuff all over the place. Okay, your

1259
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: mockery and my memory and you do now fair? Can

1260
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: you turn the music down on us a little bit?

1261
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: It's on the instant replayed pot over there, and you're right,

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Speaker 1: it's a little doing now. It's not Matt Well, I

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01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: don't know how I got hired that. It usually on

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Speaker 1: the mixer met that one labeled instant replay. Thank you

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01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 1: just turned down a we bit. There we go. That's better.

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01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: Now we can actually hear what we're saying. Um, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that. So here we go. I do have a profession,

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01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: and he does forget things. So we're gonna see if

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Speaker 1: he's forgot these teammates. All right, we're eleven and eleven

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Speaker 1: on the year. Okay, all right, are you ready to go? Matt?

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Speaker 1: You're ready? You love this? You love this game now,

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01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: you know you do. Did you play with Joe Walker?

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01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: Did you play with Joe? I know I've played with

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Speaker 1: Frank Walker. I know. I know you did too, Joe Walker. No,

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01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: I only play with one Walker in my career. That

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01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: is correct. You did not play with Joe had a Walker.

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01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: Maybe when I hit my knee one game and walked

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01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: out of the locker room. You might have a Walker

1279
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: about five years when you're trying to play a team.

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01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: That's right. Okay, but Frank Walker, Yes, teammate number two.

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01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: Did you play with joey Elam's joey Elam's E L

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Speaker 1: O M S joey Elam's You know what I think

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01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: I did because I think I remember him. His name

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01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: being close to the field goal kicker was was Jason

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01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: Elam and I remember it was very close to So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say yes, and you have to do you know,

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01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: it's not just yes or no. You have to name

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01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: the team in position. Um. God, see this is this

1289
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: is the second hardest part of it. Um. I think

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01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: he might have been a Oh my god, this is

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01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: just a total guest receiver for this. You actually got

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Speaker 1: one at of two. But I happen to like that

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01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: sound effect, so you did get one at two. So

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Speaker 1: you're right, he did play with He did play with

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01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: you one Seattle. I feel like the price is right?

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Speaker 1: Is that the price was the price is right? Yes,

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01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: but he was a defensive back. Okay, but you got

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01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: two out of three, so that's a win for you.

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Speaker 1: That's a good job. Up to thirteen eleven, Final name?

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Speaker 1: Did you play with Tyson Smith? Did you play with

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Speaker 1: Tyson Smith? A lot of Smith's, A lot of Smith

1302
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: Not a lot of Tyson's that I know, Um, but

1303
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: do I remember playing with the Tyson Smith somewhere somewhere?

1304
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: This is gonna you know what this is gonna be.

1305
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now what this is. This

1306
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: is one of those guys that I probably did play

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Speaker 1: with it. I'm gonna say no, and John's gonna say, yes,

1308
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: you did. You played with him? And he was on

1309
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: the roster for one game. He played on the two

1310
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: thousand and six New York Football Jets and he was

1311
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: on the roster for three games as a linebacker out

1312
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Speaker 1: of Iowa State. Yeah, well, he was probably inactive for

1313
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: all three games. Did nothing for me during punk coverage.

1314
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure I can't believe you remember that Joey Elams

1315
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: was on the No that, but I gave you why

1316
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: that's right, and that's she's pretty funny. That's why you remember.

1317
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a quick question before we go.

1318
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: Do you find it more more funny if that is

1319
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: such a thing that I can't remember the guys that

1320
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: were on the Giants, I love it. It's okay, by

1321
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: the way, and there's so many people that come through

1322
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: these and if you look at the roster, now, oh yeah,

1323
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: and I don't remember all these guys, Jeff, even even

1324
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: even Detino doesn't remember. Just to be I am twelve

1325
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Speaker 1: at better than them. Okay, well that's a low barn,

1326
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: my friend. Anyway, real quick. The thing that I got

1327
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: mad about before trell Owens is not going to attend

1328
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: his induction in Canton, Ohio. He wants to celebrate elsewhere.

1329
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: So this guy bitched and wined for years about getting in,

1330
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: and now I'm not gonna go, and everybody know where

1331
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to cet He it's not like he's protesting.

1332
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: He's like, do you know why? I think he's looking

1333
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: for somebody to pay him to have a party somewhere.

1334
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: I bet you that's why he's not doing it at Canton.

1335
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: What a jerk, That's why that's why he shouldn't be

1336
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: just that, Right there is why he shouldn't have been

1337
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Speaker 1: a first ballot Hall of Famer, And right there is

1338
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: why everybody hated. You know, I didn't want to put

1339
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: him in the Hall of Fame, and they finally did.

1340
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: And look, I think he eventually deserved to get in,

1341
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: but I understood why people were hesitant because he was

1342
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: such a locker room fracturer for the last I don't

1343
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: think that's a real world, but I just made He

1344
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: was doing push ups remember Injuring training camp, and the

1345
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: people were at his house on the side wall right on.

1346
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said before, you cannot change the

1347
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: zebra stripes. The guy is gonna be the same way

1348
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: he is the rest of his life. I bet you

1349
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: he's looking for money for that party. There's no that's

1350
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: a good point, I I you know somebody will give

1351
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: it to him. Unfortunately, thank you, Jeff, You welcome, Johnny,

1352
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: Jeff you get had three days of Jeff Eagles next

1353
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: week and uh there's the Gout Military Mini camp and

1354
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: they have media vail. But he's during the show. So

1355
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: Paul and I will be doing those while Jeff and

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01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: Lance will be holding the Ford here Tuesday through Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Four Feagles. I'm schulk, will see next time on John's

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Speaker 1: dot com. Everybody, have a great day.